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Farage scores highly on the Savile sleazyness scale. Oh, and first!

Jimmy Savile was innocent.

Fix it? Is that a reference to the next GE?

The fix is in
There's a wag gonna dance home in Clacton

The fix is in
Can't wait to see how it upsets 'em

Too many times he was postally pipped
He's channeling Saville, the lackeys are gripped
He swapped out Thanet for the sand and the surf and the sin
'Cause the fix, the fix is in

Fairliered said:

Farage scores highly on the Savile sleazyness scale. Oh, and first!

Dunno. You would think if there was sexual sleaze (and with Savile we're not talking about "sleaze" but depraved, criminal activity) it would have come out long ago?

If anything comes out about Farage, it'll be financial and/or in relation to Russia. But it won't be sexual, IMO.

On Topic: They should tweak it to: CAN WE FIX IT? YES WE CAN!

Better to channel Bob The Builder than Jimmy Savile, lol 😂

Another one! This is St. Pierre et Miquelon. Population: 5819.

It now has one of the world’s highest tariffs - 99%. The US imported only $3.5M of its shellfish last yr. BUT the island imports ZERO from the US.

So, the idiotic White House formula (imports v exports) couldn’t cope. It spat out 99%.

https://bsky.app/profile/newseye.bsky.social/post/3llvnng43s22t

More evidence that tariffs are decided by ChatGB and based on Internet domain.

Winning here...

@faisalislam
Big 🇺🇸 brand fallers…

Bestbuy 15%

Nike down 11%
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Apple down 9%
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AMEX 7%
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Lululemon 11%
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Dell 15%
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HP 15%

FPT: Perhaps I have been reading too many conspiracy theories, but I wonder whether that subsidiary of ChiCom, Inc., Apple, has not tried as hard as it might have to bring manufacturing back to the US.

(For the record: About a year ago, I sent Tim Cook a letter, offering him a "Free Tibet" bumper sticker if he would promise to display it prominently. It should not surprise anyone that he did not accept my offer.)

BBC:

"London Luton Airport will see annual passenger numbers almost double to 32 million by 2043 after the government approved expansion plans.

It comes despite the Planning Inspectorate recommending Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander rejects them over environmental concerns."

A Labour government, doing its best to piss me off on a daily basis.

SandyRentool said:

BBC:

"London Luton Airport will see annual passenger numbers almost double to 32 million by 2043 after the government approved expansion plans.

It comes despite the Planning Inspectorate recommending Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander rejects them over environmental concerns."

A Labour government, doing its best to piss me off on a daily basis.

They are taking steps for the UK to be ready for all electric planes.

rottenborough said:

Scott_xP said:

Winning here...

@faisalislam
Big 🇺🇸 brand fallers…

Bestbuy 15%

Nike down 11%
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Apple down 9%
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AMEX 7%
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Lululemon 11%
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Dell 15%
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HP 15%

Aaron Rupar
‪@atrupar.com‬

Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins next to a ticker showing the Dow down 1,200 points: "We are really, really excited, and very grateful for President Trump's leadership."

This is a little too on the nose

https://x.com/awzurcher/status/1907801011189641469

Taz said:

In honour of Reform’s administration

https://youtu.be/9JCUX1mrO4g?si=8y9Yg70Df0-qa_oe

Who the hell is the chap at 0:14 ? Is @Leon a time traveller?

https://youtu.be/9JCUX1mrO4g?t=16

(Closest thing I have ever seen to a Preying Mantis in human form.)

Regarding the lead, it can’t be as simple as a typo when writing the ward name on the form. Because to be a valid nomination, the signatures collected for the nomination have to be from registered voters in the ward where you are standing. So, somehow, they must have had three people under the impression they had been chosen for that ward going around collecting signatures from voters AND managed to avoid any voter nominating all three of them, since that too would have invalidated a nomination. And whoever their officer is who authorises use of the party name and logo must have completed three authorisation forms for that ward.

That is some organised cock up! The story behind how it came to pass must be an interesting one - to us election anoraks, anyhow.

@NatashaBertrand
Breaking: The White House fired at least 3 National Security Council staffers on Wednesday. Follows a meeting Wednesday in which Laura Loomer urged Trump to get rid of several members of his NSC staff.

The 3 officials include Brian Walsh, a director for intelligence and a former top staffer for now-Secretary of State Marco Rubio on the Senate Intelligence Committee; Thomas Boodry, a senior director for legislative affairs who previously served as Waltz's legislative director in Congress, and David Feith, a senior director overseeing technology and national security who served in the State Department during Trump's first administration.

Scott_xP said:

Winning here...

@faisalislam
Big 🇺🇸 brand fallers…

Bestbuy 15%

Nike down 11%
•
Apple down 9%
•
AMEX 7%
•
Lululemon 11%
•
Dell 15%
•
HP 15%

The question is whether it’s a blip and a recovery type of event, or the start of a more sustained slide?

TheScreamingEagles said:

SandyRentool said:

BBC:

"London Luton Airport will see annual passenger numbers almost double to 32 million by 2043 after the government approved expansion plans.

It comes despite the Planning Inspectorate recommending Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander rejects them over environmental concerns."

A Labour government, doing its best to piss me off on a daily basis.

They are taking steps for the UK to be ready for all electric planes.

Time for a mega airport, using my idea of a variant of the concrete gravity base structure used to build Troll B.

Put the airport out to sea, where the real estate is free. And it’s far away from me.

Given that Elon is leaving, I wonder if Trump is going to give him a pre-emptive pardon.

He has been complicit in all kinds of lawbreaking in the way he has destroyed swathes of the civil state.

The current DoJ would probably not prosecute him due to their corruption, but hat still leaves states ...

TheScreamingEagles said:

SandyRentool said:

BBC:

"London Luton Airport will see annual passenger numbers almost double to 32 million by 2043 after the government approved expansion plans.

It comes despite the Planning Inspectorate recommending Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander rejects them over environmental concerns."

A Labour government, doing its best to piss me off on a daily basis.

They are taking steps for the UK to be ready for all electric planes.

That will work for short haul. Not sure about medium and long haul - still think that will require bio-fuels. See F1….

A thought occurs. In one of the countries of Barsoom, travel is by ground effect vehicles - flying a few feet off the ground. Since they never touch the ground, it’s is covered in grass.

Imagine a future where a motorway for ground effect vehicles is just a gap in a forest. No concrete. No light required - night vision projected on windscreens is doable tech today. The lanes etc would be virtual as well.

PJH said:

Foxy said:

Another one! This is St. Pierre et Miquelon. Population: 5819.

It now has one of the world’s highest tariffs - 99%. The US imported only $3.5M of its shellfish last yr. BUT the island imports ZERO from the US.

So, the idiotic White House formula (imports v exports) couldn’t cope. It spat out 99%.

https://bsky.app/profile/newseye.bsky.social/post/3llvnng43s22t

More evidence that tariffs are decided by ChatGB and based on Internet domain.

I was going to wonder why it was picked out at all, as technically part of France, but I notice it has been out of the EU since 1985.

An early St Pexit?

I would prefer to call it St. Pierre et Miquelexit.
But I don't t think it can straightforwardly happen. St. P & M is legally just part of France like the Isle of Wight is part of the UK. It's not a sort of equivalent of the Channel Islands.

They obviously didn't manage to fix this.

RochdalePioneers said:

Foss said:

Looking at the ElectionMapsUK WiP Spreadsheet, even with this cockup Ref are currently standing in more seats than any other party. That's a lot of vetting they've had to do.

“Vetting”

I'm assuming they've at least checked none of them are actually inflatable dolls.

Of all the really stupid people in Trump's inner circle, this guy is a strong candidate for the dumbest of them all

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3llwa2hww3u2d

Scott_xP said:

@NatashaBertrand
Breaking: The White House fired at least 3 National Security Council staffers on Wednesday. Follows a meeting Wednesday in which Laura Loomer urged Trump to get rid of several members of his NSC staff.

The 3 officials include Brian Walsh, a director for intelligence and a former top staffer for now-Secretary of State Marco Rubio on the Senate Intelligence Committee; Thomas Boodry, a senior director for legislative affairs who previously served as Waltz's legislative director in Congress, and David Feith, a senior director overseeing technology and national security who served in the State Department during Trump's first administration.

In their place we'll get Laura Loomer, Roy Moore, and Joe Arpaio.

AugustusCarp2 said:

Nominations may have closed, but I think there are still a few days left for candidates to withdraw, aren't there? So one of these three could pullout, but not transfer to the other seat.

No, the deadline for withdrawal is the same as the deadline for nomination

AugustusCarp2 said:

Nominations may have closed, but I think there are still a few days left for candidates to withdraw, aren't there? So one of these three could pullout, but not transfer to the other seat.

It looks like they had until 4pm today to withdraw.

IanB2 said:

Regarding the lead, it can’t be as simple as a typo when writing the ward name on the form. Because to be a valid nomination, the signatures collected for the nomination have to be from registered voters in the ward where you are standing. So, somehow, they must have had three people under the impression they had been chosen for that ward going around collecting signatures from voters AND managed to avoid any voter nominating all three of them, since that too would have invalidated a nomination. And whoever their officer is who authorises use of the party name and logo must have completed three authorisation forms for that ward.

That is some organised cock up! The story behind how it came to pass must be an interesting one - to us election anoraks, anyhow.

Where would an enterprising journalist find the submitted nomination forms?

Andy_JS said:

AugustusCarp2 said:

Nominations may have closed, but I think there are still a few days left for candidates to withdraw, aren't there? So one of these three could pullout, but not transfer to the other seat.

They can withdraw informally, but their name will still be on the ballot paper.

When I was an Agent, back in the time when the National Front was strutting it's stuff, all Agents in our District were called in for a meeting by the CE of the local council, the official Returning Officer. We'd been told that the NF was running a full slate in our District.
The Returning Officer showed us all, Lib, Lab & Con, the paperwork he had from the NF, whose Agent had apologised. IIRC, of the eight wards, the NF had candidates in all of them, but several didn't live in the District, several didn't have the required number of Assenters, and of those they did, again they didn't live in the District, let alone the ward they were supposed to be nominating for.
We never saw them again.

Looks like he's done:

🚨 | Total Number of Candidates (/1,641) #LE2025:

➡️ RFM: 1,630 (99.3%)
🌳 CON: 1,594 (97.1%)
🌹 LAB: 1,540 (93.8%)
🔶 LDM: 1,396 (85.1%)
🌍 GRN: 1,182 (72.0%)

🧑‍🔧 TUSC: 97 (5.9%)
🏰 HER: 24 (1.5%)
🟡 MK: 18 (1.1%)
💷 UKIP: 13 (.8%)
🔴 SDP: 11 (.7%)

🙋 Inds: 461
🏘️ Local: 103

OnlyLivingBoy said:

They obviously didn't manage to fix this.

It’s an odd one, because each candidate needs ten signatures to be nominated, and voters can nominate as many people as there are vacancies, and since it’s just an admin task before you can start campaigning, the agent or one of the candidates will take all the forms round together, visiting party members until they find enough of them in to complete a form.

So commonly all the candidates for a party in a ward will have the same ten nominees - the days when it might matter who nominates you (because villagers would gather in the square or green and peruse the list of nominations, and might be swayed by a nomination from some local worthy) are long gone. Reform clearly have some unusual, more labour intensive, way of doing the job?

Once in my London patch the Tories made up their slate with some random guy they’d come across who wasn’t an established activist, who clearly went round collecting his own nominations as his ten names were different from his running mates. I was told later he’d asked his friends and family. My claim to fame in that election was that of that Tory’s ten nominees, six of them were voting for me (as they promised) and three of them put up LibDem posters in their window. I claim that as an electoral record as I doubt any opposing candidate has ever polled better among the nominating electors of their political opponent!

Sean_F said:

Jimmy Savile was innocent.

How's about that then!

Matt shoots, he scores !

https://x.com/MattCartoonist/status/1907828751854928151

Scott_xP said:

Matt shoots, he scores !

https://x.com/MattCartoonist/status/1907828751854928151

The joke’s on Matt because that shows why the tariffs are necessary to rebalance the economy.

IanB2 said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

They obviously didn't manage to fix this.

It’s an odd one, because each candidate needs ten signatures to be nominated, and voters can nominate as many people as there are vacancies, and since it’s just an admin task before you can start campaigning, the agent or one of the candidates will take all the forms round together, visiting party members until they find enough of them in to complete a form.

So commonly all the candidates for a party in a ward will have the same ten nominees - the days when it might matter who nominates you (because villagers would gather in the square or green and peruse the list of nominations, and might be swayed by a nomination from some local worthy) are long gone. Reform clearly have some unusual, more labour intensive, way of doing the job?

Once in my London patch the Tories made up their slate with some random guy they’d come across who wasn’t an established activist, who clearly went round collecting his own nominations as his ten names were different from his running mates. I was told later he’d asked his friends and family. My claim to fame in that election was that of that Tory’s ten nominees, six of them were voting for me (as they promised) and three of them put up LibDem posters in their window. I claim that as an electoral record as I doubt any opposing candidate has ever polled better among the nominating electors of their political opponent!

As an Agent I once managed to severely damage the completed Nomination form after it had been completed, but with around three hours before the deadline (I know, I know). I could do all the necessary with the candidate, but had to race round the houses of senior party members to get the necessary signatures. Result was, as all husbands were at work, (this was a while ago) that our candidate had a a female seconder and ten female nominators.

OldKingCole said:

IanB2 said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

They obviously didn't manage to fix this.

It’s an odd one, because each candidate needs ten signatures to be nominated, and voters can nominate as many people as there are vacancies, and since it’s just an admin task before you can start campaigning, the agent or one of the candidates will take all the forms round together, visiting party members until they find enough of them in to complete a form.

So commonly all the candidates for a party in a ward will have the same ten nominees - the days when it might matter who nominates you (because villagers would gather in the square or green and peruse the list of nominations, and might be swayed by a nomination from some local worthy) are long gone. Reform clearly have some unusual, more labour intensive, way of doing the job?

Once in my London patch the Tories made up their slate with some random guy they’d come across who wasn’t an established activist, who clearly went round collecting his own nominations as his ten names were different from his running mates. I was told later he’d asked his friends and family. My claim to fame in that election was that of that Tory’s ten nominees, six of them were voting for me (as they promised) and three of them put up LibDem posters in their window. I claim that as an electoral record as I doubt any opposing candidate has ever polled better among the nominating electors of their political opponent!

As an Agent I once managed to severely damage the completed Nomination form after it had been completed, but with around three hours before the deadline (I know, I know). I could do all the necessary with the candidate, but had to race round the houses of senior party members to get the necessary signatures. Result was, as all husbands were at work, (this was a while ago) that our candidate had a a female seconder and ten female nominators.

I don't want to imagine what is going on in TSE's head right now.

Eabhal said:

OldKingCole said:

IanB2 said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

They obviously didn't manage to fix this.

It’s an odd one, because each candidate needs ten signatures to be nominated, and voters can nominate as many people as there are vacancies, and since it’s just an admin task before you can start campaigning, the agent or one of the candidates will take all the forms round together, visiting party members until they find enough of them in to complete a form.

So commonly all the candidates for a party in a ward will have the same ten nominees - the days when it might matter who nominates you (because villagers would gather in the square or green and peruse the list of nominations, and might be swayed by a nomination from some local worthy) are long gone. Reform clearly have some unusual, more labour intensive, way of doing the job?

Once in my London patch the Tories made up their slate with some random guy they’d come across who wasn’t an established activist, who clearly went round collecting his own nominations as his ten names were different from his running mates. I was told later he’d asked his friends and family. My claim to fame in that election was that of that Tory’s ten nominees, six of them were voting for me (as they promised) and three of them put up LibDem posters in their window. I claim that as an electoral record as I doubt any opposing candidate has ever polled better among the nominating electors of their political opponent!

As an Agent I once managed to severely damage the completed Nomination form after it had been completed, but with around three hours before the deadline (I know, I know). I could do all the necessary with the candidate, but had to race round the houses of senior party members to get the necessary signatures. Result was, as all husbands were at work, (this was a while ago) that our candidate had a a female seconder and ten female nominators.

I don't want to imagine what is going on in TSE's head right now.

Best laugh I've had for ages. Thanks.

Great interview with Robert Reich by Evan Davis. He says we should join with the EU and Japan and Canada and Mexico and hit back as hard as possible. Trump has no respect for countries who lie down and play dead. He went further and suggested other countries should be willing to take in some of America's top university talent because they'll find many are now looking for somewhere else to go.

Well worth listening to

DOW down 3%.

Could be worse

Roger said:

DOW down 3%.

Could be worse

Dow down mister
Hare Rama Hare Krishna

On topic:

All political parties make these kind of booboos from time to time. As a new party, without the infrastructure of more established players, it is almost inevitable that Reform will make them more often.

As regards the slogan, mind, a positive spin would be that it demonstrates that Reform is being run by young people who've never even heard of Jimmy Saville.

rcs1000 said:

On topic:

All political parties make these kind of booboos from time to time. As a new party, without the infrastructure of more established players, it is almost inevitable that Reform will make them more often.

As regards the slogan, mind, a positive spin would be that it demonstrates that Reform is being run by young people who've never even heard of Jimmy Saville.

I think every young person has heard of him. his name is a meme along with Gary Glitter. Try playing Cards Against Humanity with some twenty-somethings. The glee when they get the Jimmy Savile card!

malcolmg said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

Fairliered said:

Farage scores highly on the Savile sleazyness scale. Oh, and first!

Really, where would he fall in relation to Alex Salmond?

Miles and miles ahead, Salmond was a stunning politician

He was a brilliant politician, but also a very naughty boy (though nothing illegal afaik).

Nigel_Foremain said:

BartholomewRoberts said:

BatteryCorrectHorse said:

Just change the planning laws for mast building. VodafoneThree needs it.

No, don't just change the planning laws for mastery building. Change the planning laws for everything.

We need everything. Housing, industry, infrastructure etc of which masts are an element and would be enabled by good reform.

There's more needed in this country than the needs of a firm.

Sounds like the type of lunatic unhinged policy Trump would come up with him. You love him really don't you? Along with Farage?

So you think that changing the law through parliament is lunatic, unhinged Trumpism?

Sigh...

rcs1000 said:

On topic:

All political parties make these kind of booboos from time to time. As a new party, without the infrastructure of more established players, it is almost inevitable that Reform will make them more often.

As regards the slogan, mind, a positive spin would be that it demonstrates that Reform is being run by young people who've never even heard of Jimmy Saville.

As I explained above, this is more than a boo boo, because it’s actually quite hard to make.

The most obvious explanation is that Reform somehow thought that the ward in question was actually a three member one - except that then the signatures on the three forms would usually be collected together, so making one of the papers invalid.

Alternatively, they had a rogue candidate going around collecting his or her own signatures - but then how did he get his ‘approval to use the party name and logo’ form signed by the local party officer? Perhaps somehow these forms got submitted en masse and this officer signed them all without looking at them?

That the next door ward is one short suggests that the candidate was told he’d been selected and was left to collect his own nomination signatures (an inefficent way of doubling the workload), and misunderstood which ward s/he was supposed to be standing in. But you still need to get hold of the electoral register to properly complete the form, which indicates that the person notifying the candidate of his selection, the person handing out copies of the ward electoral registers, and the person authorising use of the party logo and name, were all different people, and not comparing notes with each other.

And also, no sensible party would send someone out blind to try and collect signatures. You’d usually have a list of local party members to call on. If both the rogue candidate and the other two were visiting party members seeking their signatures, they are lucky (or unlucky?) that they didn’t call on any of the same people.

IanB2 said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

They obviously didn't manage to fix this.

It’s an odd one, because each candidate needs ten signatures to be nominated, and voters can nominate as many people as there are vacancies, and since it’s just an admin task before you can start campaigning, the agent or one of the candidates will take all the forms round together, visiting party members until they find enough of them in to complete a form.

So commonly all the candidates for a party in a ward will have the same ten nominees - the days when it might matter who nominates you (because villagers would gather in the square or green and peruse the list of nominations, and might be swayed by a nomination from some local worthy) are long gone. Reform clearly have some unusual, more labour intensive, way of doing the job?

Once in my London patch the Tories made up their slate with some random guy they’d come across who wasn’t an established activist, who clearly went round collecting his own nominations as his ten names were different from his running mates. I was told later he’d asked his friends and family. My claim to fame in that election was that of that Tory’s ten nominees, six of them were voting for me (as they promised) and three of them put up LibDem posters in their window. I claim that as an electoral record as I doubt any opposing candidate has ever polled better among the nominating electors of their political opponent!

you only need 2 signatures now

There seems to be quite a lot of the US administration simply saying that you have to trust Trump rather than actually having any ideas themselves. They don't know what's going on, but Trump knows and that's good enough.

It really is like some nutty sect.

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I wonder what odds you could have got, in New Year's betting, on "In 2025, Trump imposes tariffs on a set of islands populated only by penguins"?

Omnium said:

There seems to be quite a lot of the US administration simply saying that you have to trust Trump rather than actually having any ideas themselves. They don't know what's going on, but Trump knows and that's good enough.

It really is like some nutty sect.

It really is a nutty sect.

Tres said:

IanB2 said:

OnlyLivingBoy said:

They obviously didn't manage to fix this.

It’s an odd one, because each candidate needs ten signatures to be nominated, and voters can nominate as many people as there are vacancies, and since it’s just an admin task before you can start campaigning, the agent or one of the candidates will take all the forms round together, visiting party members until they find enough of them in to complete a form.

So commonly all the candidates for a party in a ward will have the same ten nominees - the days when it might matter who nominates you (because villagers would gather in the square or green and peruse the list of nominations, and might be swayed by a nomination from some local worthy) are long gone. Reform clearly have some unusual, more labour intensive, way of doing the job?

Once in my London patch the Tories made up their slate with some random guy they’d come across who wasn’t an established activist, who clearly went round collecting his own nominations as his ten names were different from his running mates. I was told later he’d asked his friends and family. My claim to fame in that election was that of that Tory’s ten nominees, six of them were voting for me (as they promised) and three of them put up LibDem posters in their window. I claim that as an electoral record as I doubt any opposing candidate has ever polled better among the nominating electors of their political opponent!

you only need 2 signatures now

Ok? That change must have come in as I moved from principal authority to first tier council, and I assumed fewer signatures were needed for the more junior council. Requiring just two signatures makes standing for a principal council very much easier!

It’s embarrassing to discover that while I know that citizens of Denmark, Luxembourg, Poland, Portugal and Spain have bilateral voting treaties with the UK, whereas the rest of the EU doesn’t, I clearly don’t know how many signatures it now takes to get nominated. I will go and hide myself away for a bit.

rcs1000 said:

williamglenn said:

Scott_xP said:

Matt shoots, he scores !

https://x.com/MattCartoonist/status/1907828751854928151

The joke’s on Matt because that shows why the tariffs are necessary to rebalance the economy.

Because Americans need to do more low productivity jobs like making hats!

Just look at Switzerland: big trade surplus, lots of manufacturing, lots of low value textiles in there.

(OK: one of those might not be true.)

The US is a continental economy so the parameters are different to Switzerland. If you have 170 million people with below average IQs and your economy has no place for low productivity jobs like making hats, then you can expect to have a lot of social problems.