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Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
There is good inflation and bad inflation. That which comes from increased incomes and overheating demand, and that which comes from higher global commodity prices.
The former can be uncomfortable for economists but not bad for working age voters, and quite handy for inter generational equity. The latter - which we had a bout of in 2022 and 23 - is bad for everyone.
We could do with some wage and service sector inflation. It would help to correct the massive wealth transfers of the last decade from working to retired people, encourage business investment in automation, and encourage consumer spending.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
They are planning a campaign of events and disruption in London in April. My surmise is that this was a planning or training meeting, of which they are running a programme eg on 'nonviolent resistance'.
I'm not sure what the law would be that was used to justify the police breaking down the door (rather than knock or ring the bell) of a Quaker Meeting House.
That looks weak - it was a Welcome meeting, not a training for a specific event meeting. If they just keep quiet, the police may struggle to demonstrate evidence of mens rea - unless they are fishing.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
They are the ones who are “planning to shut down London… for a month straight”, right?
In direct violation of the “just stop oil” legislation?
Sounds like they were arrested while planning a crime rather than exercising their free speech.
And they weren’t Quakers about their worship, they had just rented a meeting room.
Yes, planning a protest is now a crime. Unless of course you are a farmer worried about tax.
A demonstration or protest is fine.
This is from their website - and is not fine. Other citizens have the right to use the roads and other state facilities. You can protest and make your point, but not actively seek to prevent others going about their lawful business.
In April, Youth Demand will shut London down with swarming road-blocks day after day after day.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
I suspect every Friday around teatime Big Dog gets a phonecall from his editor. "Where's you column we go to print in an hour?" So Johnson bangs out some old shite in ten minutes without the time to proof read. Otherwise he might use a term other than "freeloading" (when discussing post war US assistance which I believe we were paying for until 2006) which was an underlying theme of his time in office as both PM and FS. Attending parties courtesy of Lebedev, extravagant and ostentatious interior design invoices bailed out by Brownlow. Holidays by Zac and of course Lord Bamford providing accomodation and his wife paying for the posh version of Hello Fresh.
Freeloading, moi? Although one could suggest he is highly qualified to write on the subject.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
There is good inflation and bad inflation. That which comes from increased incomes and overheating demand, and that which comes from higher global commodity prices.
The former can be uncomfortable for economists but not bad for working age voters, and quite handy for inter generational equity. The latter - which we had a bout of in 2022 and 23 - is bad for everyone.
We could do with some wage and service sector inflation. It would help to correct the massive wealth transfers of the last decade from working to retired people, encourage business investment in automation, and encourage consumer spending.
Bring back boom and bust!
You don't think that rather than the economic stress and hardship that would ensue in that scanario, maaaaaaybe we should think about increasing supply and thereby reducing the cost?
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
From reporting, it seems that most of the emails were about managing their disabled daughter - they were not allowed into the school to show the teachers how to give medication, for example.
It is a far more credible complaint imo that Allison Pearson's. I'd call it afaics that it was an acting head who they had been slightly rude about ("control freak" - imo accurate from the accounts) in a parents' group on Whatapp, who put in an over-juicy complaint and so the police went in feet first and mob handed.
The one negative point I can see for the parents is that the Whatsapp group was a little large with 1.2 million members. And perhaps initially emailing all the Governors when he did not get a reply was a bit OTT.
I think the arrest may have been unnecessary - chap said he would quite happily have toddled along to the station for an interview.
The authorities are trying to let it lie. I don't think it will.
Some things might be important to people economically but for opposite reasons.
For example some people want higher interest rates or house prices while other want lower.
So its impossible to please everyone.
Also those people thinking 'a strong pound' might be a good thing as it means a penny off petrol prices without realising it also means thousands off their pension funds.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
They are the ones who are “planning to shut down London… for a month straight”, right?
In direct violation of the “just stop oil” legislation?
Sounds like they were arrested while planning a crime rather than exercising their free speech.
And they weren’t Quakers about their worship, they had just rented a meeting room.
Yes, planning a protest is now a crime. Unless of course you are a farmer worried about tax.
Planning a protest in concert with the local authorities and police to meet established guidelines for organised protest in one thing
Planning to obstruct or damage infrastructure is another.
I speak as one who helped plan protests (of the former type) when at university. Generally for causes I opposed.
*I think it was Wellington who said that any damn fool could get 10,000 people into Hyde Park. But it would take a general to get them out, again.
Only protests that the police and government approve of.
What sort of right to protest is that?
If protesters commit crimes of criminal damage then arrest them. Not for thought crime.
Trump's state visit is going to cause massive issues for the government in this regard. The security required for an unpopular US President will mean the "guidelines" will prohibit demonstrations across a whole swathe of central of London.
The new law mean the police can prohibit a protest if it's too noisy - does that include trying to drown out the US national anthem? This is the real free speech issue in the UK right now.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
There is good inflation and bad inflation. That which comes from increased incomes and overheating demand, and that which comes from higher global commodity prices.
The former can be uncomfortable for economists but not bad for working age voters, and quite handy for inter generational equity. The latter - which we had a bout of in 2022 and 23 - is bad for everyone.
We could do with some wage and service sector inflation. It would help to correct the massive wealth transfers of the last decade from working to retired people, encourage business investment in automation, and encourage consumer spending.
Bring back boom and bust!
You don't think that rather than the economic stress and hardship that would ensue in that scanario, maaaaaaybe we should think about increasing supply and thereby reducing the cost?
In a wage and service sector inflation spiral the “supply” is people - employees. You increase that supply by people joining the workforce, either because the pay is good so they’re encouraged to work more, or through immigration. If you don’t, then the inflation goes in to more wage increases.
In a goods / commodities inflation spiral you just drain wealth and opportunity out of the country into the hands of large scale primary producers.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
From reporting, it seems that most of the emails were about managing their disabled daughter - they were not allowed into the school to show the teachers how to give medication, for example.
It is a far more credible complaint imo that Allison Pearson's. I'd call it afaics that it was an acting head who they had been slightly rude about ("control freak" - imo accurate from the accounts) in a parents' group on Whatapp, who put in an over-juicy complaint and so the police went in feet first and mob handed.
The one negative point I can see for the parents is that the Whatsapp group was a little large with 1.2 million members. And perhaps initially emailing all the Governors when he did not get a reply was a bit OTT.
I think the arrest may have been unnecessary - chap said he would quite happily have toddled along to the station for an interview.
The authorities are trying to let it lie. I don't think it will.
A school whatsapp group has... 1.2 million members? This is a part of social media I am completely unfamiliar with. The biggest one I'm in is about 200 hundred, and that's for organising climbing trips.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
From reporting, it seems that most of the emails were about managing their disabled daughter - they were not allowed into the school to show the teachers how to give medication, for example.
It is a far more credible complaint imo that Allison Pearson's. I'd call it afaics that it was an acting head who they had been slightly rude about ("control freak" - imo accurate from the accounts) in a parents' group on Whatapp, who put in an over-juicy complaint and so the police went in feet first and mob handed.
The one negative point I can see for the parents is that the Whatsapp group was a little large with 1.2 million members. And perhaps initially emailing all the Governors when he did not get a reply was a bit OTT.
I think the arrest may have been unnecessary - chap said he would quite happily have toddled along to the station for an interview.
The authorities are trying to let it lie. I don't think it will.
A school whatsapp group has... 1.2 million members? This is a part of social media I am completely unfamiliar with. The biggest one I'm in is about 200 hundred, and that's for organising climbing trips.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
They are the ones who are “planning to shut down London… for a month straight”, right?
In direct violation of the “just stop oil” legislation?
Sounds like they were arrested while planning a crime rather than exercising their free speech.
And they weren’t Quakers about their worship, they had just rented a meeting room.
Yes, planning a protest is now a crime. Unless of course you are a farmer worried about tax.
Planning a protest in concert with the local authorities and police to meet established guidelines for organised protest in one thing
Planning to obstruct or damage infrastructure is another.
I speak as one who helped plan protests (of the former type) when at university. Generally for causes I opposed.
*I think it was Wellington who said that any damn fool could get 10,000 people into Hyde Park. But it would take a general to get them out, again.
Only protests that the police and government approve of.
What sort of right to protest is that?
If protesters commit crimes of criminal damage then arrest them. Not for thought crime.
Trump's state visit is going to cause massive issues for the government in this regard. The security required for an unpopular US President will mean the "guidelines" will prohibit demonstrations across a whole swathe of central of London.
The new law mean the police can prohibit a protest if it's too noisy - does that include trying to drown out the US national anthem? This is the real free speech issue in the UK right now.
The Trumpski protest I want to see is 2 miles of onlookers down both sides of the road with a wave of moons following Mr Trump as his motorcade passes by.
Not one to try in Scotland, though. They'd pull in 8365 policemen from somewhere for a moon.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
From reporting, it seems that most of the emails were about managing their disabled daughter - they were not allowed into the school to show the teachers how to give medication, for example.
It is a far more credible complaint imo that Allison Pearson's. I'd call it afaics that it was an acting head who they had been slightly rude about ("control freak" - imo accurate from the accounts) in a parents' group on Whatapp, who put in an over-juicy complaint and so the police went in feet first and mob handed.
The one negative point I can see for the parents is that the Whatsapp group was a little large with 1.2 million members. And perhaps initially emailing all the Governors when he did not get a reply was a bit OTT.
I think the arrest may have been unnecessary - chap said he would quite happily have toddled along to the station for an interview.
The authorities are trying to let it lie. I don't think it will.
I don’t know the details of the case
But I am always a bit suspicious of reports largely based on one side of the story (see immigration stories in the daily mail & guardian)
Some things might be important to people economically but for opposite reasons.
For example some people want higher interest rates or house prices while other want lower.
So its impossible to please everyone.
Also those people thinking 'a strong pound' might be a good thing as it means a penny off petrol prices without realising it also means thousands off their pension funds.
This is very true but you wouldn’t really think it from the way the media covers economic stories. It usually fixates on one particular narrative (higher (though historically average) interest rates = a bad thing has been the one doing the rounds for a fair while now).
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
They are the ones who are “planning to shut down London… for a month straight”, right?
In direct violation of the “just stop oil” legislation?
Sounds like they were arrested while planning a crime rather than exercising their free speech.
And they weren’t Quakers about their worship, they had just rented a meeting room.
Yes, planning a protest is now a crime. Unless of course you are a farmer worried about tax.
Planning a protest in concert with the local authorities and police to meet established guidelines for organised protest in one thing
Planning to obstruct or damage infrastructure is another.
I speak as one who helped plan protests (of the former type) when at university. Generally for causes I opposed.
*I think it was Wellington who said that any damn fool could get 10,000 people into Hyde Park. But it would take a general to get them out, again.
Only protests that the police and government approve of.
What sort of right to protest is that?
If protesters commit crimes of criminal damage then arrest them. Not for thought crime.
Trump's state visit is going to cause massive issues for the government in this regard. The security required for an unpopular US President will mean the "guidelines" will prohibit demonstrations across a whole swathe of central of London.
The new law mean the police can prohibit a protest if it's too noisy - does that include trying to drown out the US national anthem? This is the real free speech issue in the UK right now.
Do the state visit, make it very public and allow protest, the noisier the better, then if he complains quote his VP who complained about free speech being under threat in Britain.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
From reporting, it seems that most of the emails were about managing their disabled daughter - they were not allowed into the school to show the teachers how to give medication, for example.
It is a far more credible complaint imo that Allison Pearson's. I'd call it afaics that it was an acting head who they had been slightly rude about ("control freak" - imo accurate from the accounts) in a parents' group on Whatapp, who put in an over-juicy complaint and so the police went in feet first and mob handed.
The one negative point I can see for the parents is that the Whatsapp group was a little large with 1.2 million members. And perhaps initially emailing all the Governors when he did not get a reply was a bit OTT.
I think the arrest may have been unnecessary - chap said he would quite happily have toddled along to the station for an interview.
The authorities are trying to let it lie. I don't think it will.
I don’t know the details of the case
But I am always a bit suspicious of reports largely based on one side of the story (see immigration stories in the daily mail & guardian)
90% of these stories, whether they’re covered from a left wing or right wing perspective, boil down to the police being blunderingly heavy handed and thuggish, regardless of the government of the day.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
From reporting, it seems that most of the emails were about managing their disabled daughter - they were not allowed into the school to show the teachers how to give medication, for example.
It is a far more credible complaint imo that Allison Pearson's. I'd call it afaics that it was an acting head who they had been slightly rude about ("control freak" - imo accurate from the accounts) in a parents' group on Whatapp, who put in an over-juicy complaint and so the police went in feet first and mob handed.
The one negative point I can see for the parents is that the Whatsapp group was a little large with 1.2 million members. And perhaps initially emailing all the Governors when he did not get a reply was a bit OTT.
I think the arrest may have been unnecessary - chap said he would quite happily have toddled along to the station for an interview.
The authorities are trying to let it lie. I don't think it will.
I don’t know the details of the case
But I am always a bit suspicious of reports largely based on one side of the story (see immigration stories in the daily mail & guardian)
Yep, because the police don't have the benefit of giving their side in much detail.
I could be a really interesting one - is sharing just the name of someone with 1.2 million people worse than sharing the address and phone number of someone with 120 people? In terms of stimulated harrassment, I would guess the former is much worse.
Good morning, everybody. Thanks for the header, although it's a bit depressing information.
Everything seems depressing at the moment. If somebody cropped up who seemed able to offer some genuine, practicable solutions, it seems depressingly likely it would be a false hope.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
From reporting, it seems that most of the emails were about managing their disabled daughter - they were not allowed into the school to show the teachers how to give medication, for example.
It is a far more credible complaint imo that Allison Pearson's. I'd call it afaics that it was an acting head who they had been slightly rude about ("control freak" - imo accurate from the accounts) in a parents' group on Whatapp, who put in an over-juicy complaint and so the police went in feet first and mob handed.
The one negative point I can see for the parents is that the Whatsapp group was a little large with 1.2 million members. And perhaps initially emailing all the Governors when he did not get a reply was a bit OTT.
I think the arrest may have been unnecessary - chap said he would quite happily have toddled along to the station for an interview.
The authorities are trying to let it lie. I don't think it will.
I don’t know the details of the case
But I am always a bit suspicious of reports largely based on one side of the story (see immigration stories in the daily mail & guardian)
I'd agree with this. On what's reported so far, it could either be a reasonable response, or a gross overreaction.
Modern communication has made the job of balancing the right to protest, and the maintenance of public order a far harder task than it used to be.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
From reporting, it seems that most of the emails were about managing their disabled daughter - they were not allowed into the school to show the teachers how to give medication, for example.
It is a far more credible complaint imo that Allison Pearson's. I'd call it afaics that it was an acting head who they had been slightly rude about ("control freak" - imo accurate from the accounts) in a parents' group on Whatapp, who put in an over-juicy complaint and so the police went in feet first and mob handed.
The one negative point I can see for the parents is that the Whatsapp group was a little large with 1.2 million members. And perhaps initially emailing all the Governors when he did not get a reply was a bit OTT.
I think the arrest may have been unnecessary - chap said he would quite happily have toddled along to the station for an interview.
The authorities are trying to let it lie. I don't think it will.
I don’t know the details of the case
But I am always a bit suspicious of reports largely based on one side of the story (see immigration stories in the daily mail & guardian)
Yep, because the police don't have the benefit of giving their side in much detail.
I could be a really interesting one - is sharing just the name of someone with 1.2 million people worse than sharing the address and phone number of someone with 120 people? In terms of stimulated harrassment, I would guess the former is much worse.
I also see we have the usual “we needed to arrest people so we could interview them under caution. To protect their rights.”
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Depends a bit what was in those emails. The bit we've been told is parents-with-media-connections questioning the way the new head was appointed. Without knowing the rest of the story, we can't tell whether the entirety of the messages was hurty words or worse.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
There is good inflation and bad inflation. That which comes from increased incomes and overheating demand, and that which comes from higher global commodity prices.
The former can be uncomfortable for economists but not bad for working age voters, and quite handy for inter generational equity. The latter - which we had a bout of in 2022 and 23 - is bad for everyone.
We could do with some wage and service sector inflation. It would help to correct the massive wealth transfers of the last decade from working to retired people, encourage business investment in automation, and encourage consumer spending.
Bring back boom and bust!
You don't think that rather than the economic stress and hardship that would ensue in that scanario, maaaaaaybe we should think about increasing supply and thereby reducing the cost?
In a wage and service sector inflation spiral the “supply” is people - employees. You increase that supply by people joining the workforce, either because the pay is good so they’re encouraged to work more, or through immigration. If you don’t, then the inflation goes in to more wage increases.
In a goods / commodities inflation spiral you just drain wealth and opportunity out of the country into the hands of large scale primary producers.
Yes, but I am suggesting that rather than applaud the 'good' inflation as a remedy, we tackle the 'bad' inflation. You mention 'global' commodity prices, but for the most part, the prices of commodities like energy and food are widely different in different countries. In this country we benefit from an ample supply of energy, not just abundant hydrocarbons (which are baked into our current plans by intermittent energy sources anyway), but untapped renewables, and the potential of SMRs. But currently, energy prices are completely unsustainable against virtually every economic competitor. We also have a temperate climate that can produce a large amount of food. If the Government seeks to improve supply, that will drive prices down but growth up, benefitting everyone, which seems a simpler and better solution than welcoming economic turbulence.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
From reporting, it seems that most of the emails were about managing their disabled daughter - they were not allowed into the school to show the teachers how to give medication, for example.
It is a far more credible complaint imo that Allison Pearson's. I'd call it afaics that it was an acting head who they had been slightly rude about ("control freak" - imo accurate from the accounts) in a parents' group on Whatapp, who put in an over-juicy complaint and so the police went in feet first and mob handed.
The one negative point I can see for the parents is that the Whatsapp group was a little large with 1.2 million members. And perhaps initially emailing all the Governors when he did not get a reply was a bit OTT.
I think the arrest may have been unnecessary - chap said he would quite happily have toddled along to the station for an interview.
The authorities are trying to let it lie. I don't think it will.
I don’t know the details of the case
But I am always a bit suspicious of reports largely based on one side of the story (see immigration stories in the daily mail & guardian)
90% of these stories, whether they’re covered from a left wing or right wing perspective, boil down to the police being blunderingly heavy handed and thuggish, regardless of the government of the day.
The difficult task of maintaining both public order and public consent is made considerably harder when you have a failing police force.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
From reporting, it seems that most of the emails were about managing their disabled daughter - they were not allowed into the school to show the teachers how to give medication, for example.
It is a far more credible complaint imo that Allison Pearson's. I'd call it afaics that it was an acting head who they had been slightly rude about ("control freak" - imo accurate from the accounts) in a parents' group on Whatapp, who put in an over-juicy complaint and so the police went in feet first and mob handed.
The one negative point I can see for the parents is that the Whatsapp group was a little large with 1.2 million members. And perhaps initially emailing all the Governors when he did not get a reply was a bit OTT.
I think the arrest may have been unnecessary - chap said he would quite happily have toddled along to the station for an interview.
The authorities are trying to let it lie. I don't think it will.
A school whatsapp group has... 1.2 million members? This is a part of social media I am completely unfamiliar with. The biggest one I'm in is about 200 hundred, and that's for organising climbing trips.
Have a read and a listen of my links.
The 1.2m was quoted by the school in a letter to the parents. Mistake on my part - 1.2m refers to a Facebook group in the letter shown in vid here:
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Depends a bit what was in those emails. The bit we've been told is parents-with-media-connections questioning the way the new head was appointed. Without knowing the rest of the story, we can't tell whether the entirety of the messages was hurty words or worse.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
It seems the parents were a nuisance. However, if the content of the emails was abusive, defamatory or in any other way illegal, that would have been mentioned in the complaint and the investigation.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
They are the ones who are “planning to shut down London… for a month straight”, right?
In direct violation of the “just stop oil” legislation?
Sounds like they were arrested while planning a crime rather than exercising their free speech.
And they weren’t Quakers about their worship, they had just rented a meeting room.
Yes, planning a protest is now a crime. Unless of course you are a farmer worried about tax.
Planning a protest in concert with the local authorities and police to meet established guidelines for organised protest in one thing
Planning to obstruct or damage infrastructure is another.
I speak as one who helped plan protests (of the former type) when at university. Generally for causes I opposed.
*I think it was Wellington who said that any damn fool could get 10,000 people into Hyde Park. But it would take a general to get them out, again.
Only protests that the police and government approve of.
What sort of right to protest is that?
If protesters commit crimes of criminal damage then arrest them. Not for thought crime.
Trump's state visit is going to cause massive issues for the government in this regard. The security required for an unpopular US President will mean the "guidelines" will prohibit demonstrations across a whole swathe of central of London.
The new law mean the police can prohibit a protest if it's too noisy - does that include trying to drown out the US national anthem? This is the real free speech issue in the UK right now.
The Trumpski protest I want to see is 2 miles of onlookers down both sides of the road with a wave of moons following Mr Trump as his motorcade passes by.
Not one to try in Scotland, though. They'd pull in 8365 policemen from somewhere for a moon.
Planning such a protest makes you liable to arrest.
Only protests that the government and police approve of are now legal.
There is good inflation and bad inflation. That which comes from increased incomes and overheating demand, and that which comes from higher global commodity prices.
The former can be uncomfortable for economists but not bad for working age voters, and quite handy for inter generational equity. The latter - which we had a bout of in 2022 and 23 - is bad for everyone.
We could do with some wage and service sector inflation. It would help to correct the massive wealth transfers of the last decade from working to retired people, encourage business investment in automation, and encourage consumer spending.
Bring back boom and bust!
You don't think that rather than the economic stress and hardship that would ensue in that scanario, maaaaaaybe we should think about increasing supply and thereby reducing the cost?
In a wage and service sector inflation spiral the “supply” is people - employees. You increase that supply by people joining the workforce, either because the pay is good so they’re encouraged to work more, or through immigration. If you don’t, then the inflation goes in to more wage increases.
In a goods / commodities inflation spiral you just drain wealth and opportunity out of the country into the hands of large scale primary producers.
Yes, but I am suggesting that rather than applaud the 'good' inflation as a remedy, we tackle the 'bad' inflation. You mention 'global' commodity prices, but for the most part, the prices of commodities like energy and food are widely different in different countries. In this country we benefit from an ample supply of energy, not just abundant hydrocarbons (which are baked into our current plans by intermittent energy sources anyway), but untapped renewables, and the potential of SMRs. But currently, energy prices are completely unsustainable against virtually every economic competitor. We also have a temperate climate that can produce a large amount of food. If the Government seeks to improve supply, that will drive prices down but growth up, benefitting everyone, which seems a simpler and better solution than welcoming economic turbulence.
I see, we’re on your usual bugbear. All points worth discussing but I’m talking about something else - service sector inflation - because I fear governments (and central banks) treat all inflation as equal and they are in danger of keeping interest rates higher than needed when market dynamics could sort the problem.
On the goods inflation front we may get a bit of a benefit from US tariffs on Canada and Mexico if that diverts agri products (ones we can’t grow here) into the European market.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
They are the ones who are “planning to shut down London… for a month straight”, right?
In direct violation of the “just stop oil” legislation?
Sounds like they were arrested while planning a crime rather than exercising their free speech.
And they weren’t Quakers about their worship, they had just rented a meeting room.
Yes, planning a protest is now a crime. Unless of course you are a farmer worried about tax.
Planning a protest in concert with the local authorities and police to meet established guidelines for organised protest in one thing
Planning to obstruct or damage infrastructure is another.
I speak as one who helped plan protests (of the former type) when at university. Generally for causes I opposed.
*I think it was Wellington who said that any damn fool could get 10,000 people into Hyde Park. But it would take a general to get them out, again.
Only protests that the police and government approve of.
What sort of right to protest is that?
If protesters commit crimes of criminal damage then arrest them. Not for thought crime.
So if you are aware that your neighbour is planning to murder his wife you shouldn’t intervene because it’s “thought crime”?
That's a bit Minority Report isn't it? Unless he's shared his plans.
Let’s say you accidentally get his Amazon parcel with some black tarpaulin, duct tape, a shovel and a pair of ninja swords…
People have been arrested, many, many times, for planning crimes.
Planning a crime is a crime in UK law. Has been since forever.
I don't think anyone is arguing against that. It's just an effect of this law that people sitting down in a coffee shop to discuss how to protest Trump might get arrested because they didn't invite a senior police officer and council officials along to ensure they were within the arbitrary guidelines they might rustle up.
Good morning, everybody. Thanks for the header, although it's a bit depressing information.
Everything seems depressing at the moment. If somebody cropped up who seemed able to offer some genuine, practicable solutions, it seems depressingly likely it would be a false hope.
But I hope you all have a good day!
War with France Tougher Sentances for Geography Teachers A Right Royal Kick up the Prince's Backside
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Depends a bit what was in those emails. The bit we've been told is parents-with-media-connections questioning the way the new head was appointed. Without knowing the rest of the story, we can't tell whether the entirety of the messages was hurty words or worse.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
It seems the parents were a nuisance. However, if the content of the emails was abusive, defamatory or in any other way illegal, that would have been mentioned in the complaint and the investigation.
The fact the police dropped the investigation and concluded there was no case to answer suggests there’s nothing much there.
He’s an acquaintance of a friend so I’ll ask my friend to dig for a bit more on this.
talking of protest I went to an exhibition 'Women in Revolt' which is touring the country at the moment. It's poorly curated but a couple of things that tickled me....
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
They are the ones who are “planning to shut down London… for a month straight”, right?
In direct violation of the “just stop oil” legislation?
Sounds like they were arrested while planning a crime rather than exercising their free speech.
And they weren’t Quakers about their worship, they had just rented a meeting room.
Yes, planning a protest is now a crime. Unless of course you are a farmer worried about tax.
Planning a protest in concert with the local authorities and police to meet established guidelines for organised protest in one thing
Planning to obstruct or damage infrastructure is another.
I speak as one who helped plan protests (of the former type) when at university. Generally for causes I opposed.
*I think it was Wellington who said that any damn fool could get 10,000 people into Hyde Park. But it would take a general to get them out, again.
Only protests that the police and government approve of.
What sort of right to protest is that?
If protesters commit crimes of criminal damage then arrest them. Not for thought crime.
Trump's state visit is going to cause massive issues for the government in this regard. The security required for an unpopular US President will mean the "guidelines" will prohibit demonstrations across a whole swathe of central of London.
The new law mean the police can prohibit a protest if it's too noisy - does that include trying to drown out the US national anthem? This is the real free speech issue in the UK right now.
The Trumpski protest I want to see is 2 miles of onlookers down both sides of the road with a wave of moons following Mr Trump as his motorcade passes by.
Not one to try in Scotland, though. They'd pull in 8365 policemen from somewhere for a moon.
Planning such a protest makes you liable to arrest.
Only protests that the government and police approve of are now legal.
You are eliding concepts to mislead
The government and the police don’t care about the *subject* of the protest
They do care about ensuring the correct safety and other procedures are followed including pre-notification.
That is a reasonable balance between the rights of the uninvolved citizen and the right to protest.
It’s just a different form of not having the right to shout “fire” in a crossed theatre
Good morning, everybody. Thanks for the header, although it's a bit depressing information.
Everything seems depressing at the moment. If somebody cropped up who seemed able to offer some genuine, practicable solutions, it seems depressingly likely it would be a false hope.
But I hope you all have a good day!
War with France Tougher Sentances for Geography Teachers A Right Royal Kick up the Prince's Backside
Geography always fascinated me because it offers such beautiful scope for guesswork – a letter from the First World War trenches to a soldier's old teacher.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Depends a bit what was in those emails. The bit we've been told is parents-with-media-connections questioning the way the new head was appointed. Without knowing the rest of the story, we can't tell whether the entirety of the messages was hurty words or worse.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
It seems the parents were a nuisance. However, if the content of the emails was abusive, defamatory or in any other way illegal, that would have been mentioned in the complaint and the investigation.
The fact the police dropped the investigation and concluded there was no case to answer suggests there’s nothing much there.
He’s an acquaintance of a friend so I’ll ask my friend to dig for a bit more on this.
To my ear on the Twitter vid he's a credible interviewee.
By his account the arresting and interviewing officers had nothing more than a sketchy written complaint, and no evidence of the alleged crimes whatsoever.
Good morning, everybody. Thanks for the header, although it's a bit depressing information.
Everything seems depressing at the moment. If somebody cropped up who seemed able to offer some genuine, practicable solutions, it seems depressingly likely it would be a false hope.
But I hope you all have a good day!
War with France Tougher Sentances for Geography Teachers A Right Royal Kick up the Prince's Backside
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
They are the ones who are “planning to shut down London… for a month straight”, right?
In direct violation of the “just stop oil” legislation?
Sounds like they were arrested while planning a crime rather than exercising their free speech.
And they weren’t Quakers about their worship, they had just rented a meeting room.
Yes, planning a protest is now a crime. Unless of course you are a farmer worried about tax.
Planning a protest in concert with the local authorities and police to meet established guidelines for organised protest in one thing
Planning to obstruct or damage infrastructure is another.
I speak as one who helped plan protests (of the former type) when at university. Generally for causes I opposed.
*I think it was Wellington who said that any damn fool could get 10,000 people into Hyde Park. But it would take a general to get them out, again.
Only protests that the police and government approve of.
What sort of right to protest is that?
If protesters commit crimes of criminal damage then arrest them. Not for thought crime.
Trump's state visit is going to cause massive issues for the government in this regard. The security required for an unpopular US President will mean the "guidelines" will prohibit demonstrations across a whole swathe of central of London.
The new law mean the police can prohibit a protest if it's too noisy - does that include trying to drown out the US national anthem? This is the real free speech issue in the UK right now.
The Trumpski protest I want to see is 2 miles of onlookers down both sides of the road with a wave of moons following Mr Trump as his motorcade passes by.
Not one to try in Scotland, though. They'd pull in 8365 policemen from somewhere for a moon.
Planning such a protest makes you liable to arrest.
Only protests that the government and police approve of are now legal.
You are eliding concepts to mislead
The government and the police don’t care about the *subject* of the protest
They do care about ensuring the correct safety and other procedures are followed including pre-notification.
That is a reasonable balance between the rights of the uninvolved citizen and the right to protest.
It’s just a different form of not having the right to shout “fire” in a crossed theatre
I think the government do care about the subject of protests, and enforce the law unequally.
We have Canada voting on April 28th and Australia voting on May 3rd so the new CANZUK alliance might look very different by early May (or it might not as you could easily imagine Carney keeping the Liberals in power and Albanese getting back with Independent help in Canberra).
Some betting opportunities to consider perhaps next month?
On topic, almost all elections are "pocket book" elections inasmuch as how people "feel" economically is a big factor around how they vote. The decisive rejections of Government aren't usually because of a belief the Opposition would do much better but more a perception they couldn't do any worse.
As we now find in many instances they can and do, the option is either to "get the other lot back in" (which is your only option in a rigid 2-party system) or to look elsewhere at the coterie of snake oil salespeople on both and neither extreme (a bit cynical perhaps).
I've raised this many times on here but there still seems to be no practical solution to the issues of stagnant growth and ambient inflation (I seem to recall the UK economy was particularly prone to stubborn inflation). Getting energy prices and council tax rises back to somewhere in the neighbourhood of actual CPI or RPI inflation would be a good start. The notion our energy prices go up so the customers in the countries which own our energy suppliers can see theirs go down (or not rise as much) is a huge bone of contention.
As for local Government finance, notwithstanding the unnecessary costs of pointless re-organisations, the issues of social care, SEN and temporary accommodation costs all remain unresolved - Newham's 8.9% rise in 2025/26 may be part down to overarching incompetence and part down to the same costs as every other councils but the fact remains most people's incomes haven't risen by 8.9% so it's another cost.
I've no statistical evidence but my assertion is we have stagnated since 2008 in terms of living standards. Yes, our assets (primarily but not exclusively property) have appreciated strongly but unless you can release some of that asset (by downsizing) it's not much help. Yet there's plenty of people with plenty of money - I wonder what the take up in ISAs will be in April 2025?
We have Canada voting on April 28th and Australia voting on May 3rd so the new CANZUK alliance might look very different by early May (or it might not as you could easily imagine Carney keeping the Liberals in power and Albanese getting back with Independent help in Canberra).
Some betting opportunities to consider perhaps next month?
On topic, almost all elections are "pocket book" elections inasmuch as how people "feel" economically is a big factor around how they vote. The decisive rejections of Government aren't usually because of a belief the Opposition would do much better but more a perception they couldn't do any worse.
As we now find in many instances they can and do, the option is either to "get the other lot back in" (which is your only option in a rigid 2-party system) or to look elsewhere at the coterie of snake oil salespeople on both and neither extreme (a bit cynical perhaps).
I've raised this many times on here but there still seems to be no practical solution to the issues of stagnant growth and ambient inflation (I seem to recall the UK economy was particularly prone to stubborn inflation). Getting energy prices and council tax rises back to somewhere in the neighbourhood of actual CPI or RPI inflation would be a good start. The notion our energy prices go up so the customers in the countries which own our energy suppliers can see theirs go down (or not rise as much) is a huge bone of contention.
As for local Government finance, notwithstanding the unnecessary costs of pointless re-organisations, the issues of social care, SEN and temporary accommodation costs all remain unresolved - Newham's 8.9% rise in 2025/26 may be part down to overarching incompetence and part down to the same costs as every other councils but the fact remains most people's incomes haven't risen by 8.9% so it's another cost.
I've no statistical evidence but my assertion is we have stagnated since 2008 in terms of living standards. Yes, our assets (primarily but not exclusively property) have appreciated strongly but unless you can release some of that asset (by downsizing) it's not much help. Yet there's plenty of people with plenty of money - I wonder what the take up in ISAs will be in April 2025?
A slow down in Council Tax rises won't happen. They have had 15 years decades of being shredded, which has fed through to quality of localities and services.
Funding is down hugely - perhaps 30% in real terms since 2010.
Good morning, everybody. Thanks for the header, although it's a bit depressing information.
Everything seems depressing at the moment. If somebody cropped up who seemed able to offer some genuine, practicable solutions, it seems depressingly likely it would be a false hope.
But I hope you all have a good day!
The Canadian election isn't depressing. CPC put owning the Libs above patriotism by openly cheering on an enemy power. Now super butthurt folk will coalesce around the flag to stop them. True globalists about to get a kicking from the citizens of somewhere.
We have Canada voting on April 28th and Australia voting on May 3rd so the new CANZUK alliance might look very different by early May (or it might not as you could easily imagine Carney keeping the Liberals in power and Albanese getting back with Independent help in Canberra).
Some betting opportunities to consider perhaps next month?
On topic, almost all elections are "pocket book" elections inasmuch as how people "feel" economically is a big factor around how they vote. The decisive rejections of Government aren't usually because of a belief the Opposition would do much better but more a perception they couldn't do any worse.
As we now find in many instances they can and do, the option is either to "get the other lot back in" (which is your only option in a rigid 2-party system) or to look elsewhere at the coterie of snake oil salespeople on both and neither extreme (a bit cynical perhaps).
I've raised this many times on here but there still seems to be no practical solution to the issues of stagnant growth and ambient inflation (I seem to recall the UK economy was particularly prone to stubborn inflation). Getting energy prices and council tax rises back to somewhere in the neighbourhood of actual CPI or RPI inflation would be a good start. The notion our energy prices go up so the customers in the countries which own our energy suppliers can see theirs go down (or not rise as much) is a huge bone of contention.
As for local Government finance, notwithstanding the unnecessary costs of pointless re-organisations, the issues of social care, SEN and temporary accommodation costs all remain unresolved - Newham's 8.9% rise in 2025/26 may be part down to overarching incompetence and part down to the same costs as every other councils but the fact remains most people's incomes haven't risen by 8.9% so it's another cost.
I've no statistical evidence but my assertion is we have stagnated since 2008 in terms of living standards. Yes, our assets (primarily but not exclusively property) have appreciated strongly but unless you can release some of that asset (by downsizing) it's not much help. Yet there's plenty of people with plenty of money - I wonder what the take up in ISAs will be in April 2025?
A slow down in Council Tax rises won't happen. They have had 15 years decades of being shredded, which has fed through to quality of localities and services.
Funding is down hugely - perhaps 30% in real terms since 2010.
Agreed and one million local Government jobs lost since 2012 suggests, contrary to what the supply siders would have you believe, there was plenty of austerity going on especially in the Coalition years.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Depends a bit what was in those emails. The bit we've been told is parents-with-media-connections questioning the way the new head was appointed. Without knowing the rest of the story, we can't tell whether the entirety of the messages was hurty words or worse.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
It seems the parents were a nuisance. However, if the content of the emails was abusive, defamatory or in any other way illegal, that would have been mentioned in the complaint and the investigation.
The fact the police dropped the investigation and concluded there was no case to answer suggests there’s nothing much there.
He’s an acquaintance of a friend so I’ll ask my friend to dig for a bit more on this.
To my ear on the Twitter vid he's a credible interviewee.
By his account the arresting and interviewing officers had nothing more than a sketchy written complaint, and no evidence of the alleged crimes whatsoever.
I noticed a few, rightly, outraged posters on Twitter were, wrongly, tagging Herefordshire Police and criticising them 😂
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
There is good inflation and bad inflation. That which comes from increased incomes and overheating demand, and that which comes from higher global commodity prices.
The former can be uncomfortable for economists but not bad for working age voters, and quite handy for inter generational equity. The latter - which we had a bout of in 2022 and 23 - is bad for everyone.
We could do with some wage and service sector inflation. It would help to correct the massive wealth transfers of the last decade from working to retired people, encourage business investment in automation, and encourage consumer spending.
Bring back boom and bust!
There is also good deflation and bad deflation. There was good deflation caused by globalisation, and the entry of China onto world markets, leading to lower prices. The problem was treating it like bad deflation (lack of demand) and over-inflating the economy with ultra-low interest rates and QE.
We have Canada voting on April 28th and Australia voting on May 3rd so the new CANZUK alliance might look very different by early May (or it might not as you could easily imagine Carney keeping the Liberals in power and Albanese getting back with Independent help in Canberra).
Some betting opportunities to consider perhaps next month?
On topic, almost all elections are "pocket book" elections inasmuch as how people "feel" economically is a big factor around how they vote. The decisive rejections of Government aren't usually because of a belief the Opposition would do much better but more a perception they couldn't do any worse.
As we now find in many instances they can and do, the option is either to "get the other lot back in" (which is your only option in a rigid 2-party system) or to look elsewhere at the coterie of snake oil salespeople on both and neither extreme (a bit cynical perhaps).
I've raised this many times on here but there still seems to be no practical solution to the issues of stagnant growth and ambient inflation (I seem to recall the UK economy was particularly prone to stubborn inflation). Getting energy prices and council tax rises back to somewhere in the neighbourhood of actual CPI or RPI inflation would be a good start. The notion our energy prices go up so the customers in the countries which own our energy suppliers can see theirs go down (or not rise as much) is a huge bone of contention.
As for local Government finance, notwithstanding the unnecessary costs of pointless re-organisations, the issues of social care, SEN and temporary accommodation costs all remain unresolved - Newham's 8.9% rise in 2025/26 may be part down to overarching incompetence and part down to the same costs as every other councils but the fact remains most people's incomes haven't risen by 8.9% so it's another cost.
I've no statistical evidence but my assertion is we have stagnated since 2008 in terms of living standards. Yes, our assets (primarily but not exclusively property) have appreciated strongly but unless you can release some of that asset (by downsizing) it's not much help. Yet there's plenty of people with plenty of money - I wonder what the take up in ISAs will be in April 2025?
Energy prices are a funny one - domestic electricity is roughly in line with other European countries, gas is actually among the cheapest (half the price that is in the Netherlands, for example). Unleaded is cheaper than most of our neighbours.
It's industrial electricity costs where the UK is a complete disaster, not household bills. Industrial gas and diesel are higher too, but not far off the European average.
Improbably, I ended up feeling rather sorry for the world's richest man.
He may be the world's richest man, but he's obviously deeply unhappy and mentally troubled. As he had a ghastly childhood with a terrible father and rampant bullying at school he lashes out and has to disrupt everything all the time, no matter how much suffering he causes.
He, Trump and Putin are well-matched in those respects (though I've a feeling that Trump was the bully not the bullied at school).
He may have a million times as much money as I and almost everybody I know do, but we're much happier people, which I suppose is what counts at the end of the day.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Depends a bit what was in those emails. The bit we've been told is parents-with-media-connections questioning the way the new head was appointed. Without knowing the rest of the story, we can't tell whether the entirety of the messages was hurty words or worse.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
It seems the parents were a nuisance. However, if the content of the emails was abusive, defamatory or in any other way illegal, that would have been mentioned in the complaint and the investigation.
The fact the police dropped the investigation and concluded there was no case to answer suggests there’s nothing much there.
He’s an acquaintance of a friend so I’ll ask my friend to dig for a bit more on this.
To my ear on the Twitter vid he's a credible interviewee.
By his account the arresting and interviewing officers had nothing more than a sketchy written complaint, and no evidence of the alleged crimes whatsoever.
IMV if there was anything that could be construed as a threat against the school, or its staff, then it blooming well should be investigated. Even something like: "the head should be shot!", which might just be hyperbole, should provoke questioning. Those questions may well lead to no further action, but ignoring that sort of thing might lead to disaster in other situations, where someone says something that proves not to be hyperbole.
The police can face difficult decisions in cases like this. Much depends on what exactly was said in the emails, and I'm unsure the parents might be the most impartial 'witnesses', and you'd need to see the full chain of comments, not just the ones they choose to show. ...
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Depends a bit what was in those emails. The bit we've been told is parents-with-media-connections questioning the way the new head was appointed. Without knowing the rest of the story, we can't tell whether the entirety of the messages was hurty words or worse.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
It seems the parents were a nuisance. However, if the content of the emails was abusive, defamatory or in any other way illegal, that would have been mentioned in the complaint and the investigation.
The fact the police dropped the investigation and concluded there was no case to answer suggests there’s nothing much there.
He’s an acquaintance of a friend so I’ll ask my friend to dig for a bit more on this.
To my ear on the Twitter vid he's a credible interviewee.
By his account the arresting and interviewing officers had nothing more than a sketchy written complaint, and no evidence of the alleged crimes whatsoever.
Interesting. Just a finger in the air I didn't like him or trust him and found for the school with costs!! Just a few clues which everyone reads in different ways.....
Improbably, I ended up feeling rather sorry for the world's richest man.
He may be the world's richest man, but he's obviously deeply unhappy and mentally troubled. As he had a ghastly childhood with a terrible father and rampant bullying at school he lashes out and has to disrupt everything all the time, no matter how much suffering he causes.
He, Trump and Putin are well-matched in those respects (though I've a feeling that Trump was the bully not the bullied at school).
He may have a million times as much money as I and almost everybody I know do, but we're much happier people, which I suppose is what counts at the end of the day.
Cosmic justice?
On the bullying thing: many people who are bullied at school become bullies, either later in school, or later in life. "He was bullied!" is not an excuse for stuff done decades later.
If he was bullied, then I'd expect him to have learnt a little of how it feels, and not to act the way he is at the moment.
We have Canada voting on April 28th and Australia voting on May 3rd so the new CANZUK alliance might look very different by early May (or it might not as you could easily imagine Carney keeping the Liberals in power and Albanese getting back with Independent help in Canberra).
Some betting opportunities to consider perhaps next month?
On topic, almost all elections are "pocket book" elections inasmuch as how people "feel" economically is a big factor around how they vote. The decisive rejections of Government aren't usually because of a belief the Opposition would do much better but more a perception they couldn't do any worse.
As we now find in many instances they can and do, the option is either to "get the other lot back in" (which is your only option in a rigid 2-party system) or to look elsewhere at the coterie of snake oil salespeople on both and neither extreme (a bit cynical perhaps).
I've raised this many times on here but there still seems to be no practical solution to the issues of stagnant growth and ambient inflation (I seem to recall the UK economy was particularly prone to stubborn inflation). Getting energy prices and council tax rises back to somewhere in the neighbourhood of actual CPI or RPI inflation would be a good start. The notion our energy prices go up so the customers in the countries which own our energy suppliers can see theirs go down (or not rise as much) is a huge bone of contention.
As for local Government finance, notwithstanding the unnecessary costs of pointless re-organisations, the issues of social care, SEN and temporary accommodation costs all remain unresolved - Newham's 8.9% rise in 2025/26 may be part down to overarching incompetence and part down to the same costs as every other councils but the fact remains most people's incomes haven't risen by 8.9% so it's another cost.
I've no statistical evidence but my assertion is we have stagnated since 2008 in terms of living standards. Yes, our assets (primarily but not exclusively property) have appreciated strongly but unless you can release some of that asset (by downsizing) it's not much help. Yet there's plenty of people with plenty of money - I wonder what the take up in ISAs will be in April 2025?
A slow down in Council Tax rises won't happen. They have had 15 years decades of being shredded, which has fed through to quality of localities and services.
Funding is down hugely - perhaps 30% in real terms since 2010.
Well something is going to need to give as people have less and less disposable income especially at the lower end of the income scale.
It’s all well and fine for well off people here just blithely saying people need to,pay more.
The govt needs to radically review local govt funding to make it fairer and more equitable as well as reviewing what councils are obliged to do.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
You think the arbitrary arrest of political dissenters cannot happen in the UK? It already does. www.quaker.org.uk/news-and-eve...
Is there any more reporting on that ? Your link provides very little detail.
A Met spokesperson said: “Youth Demand have stated an intention to ‘shut down’ London over the month of April using tactics including ‘swarming’ and roadblocks.
“While we absolutely recognise the importance of the right to protest, we have a responsibility to intervene to prevent activity that crosses the line from protest into serious disruption and other criminality.
“On Thursday, officers raided a Youth Demand planning meeting where those in attendance were plotting their April action.
“Six people were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to cause a public nuisance.”
The force confirmed that a number of houses were also raided on Thursday and Friday as part of the same operation.
Youth Demand said the meeting was intended to be “an opportunity to share plans for non-violence civil resistance actions” and alleged that one of those arrested is a journalist.
The group has made anti-Israel demands central to its messaging, calling for the UK government to cut all trade with Israel and accusing it of enabling genocide. It also wants the state to raise money from “the super-rich and fossil fuel elite” to pay damages for the effects of fossil fuel burning.
A Youth Demand spokesperson said: “It’s clear that the government sees Youth Demand as a threat. They know that we are right.
“The government is facilitating genocide. Thousands of us are horrified.
“We will not be silenced. Young people all over the country are coming together to shut London down day after day throughout April.”
The group’s tactics have previously drawn criticism, including from within the Jewish community. In April last year, three activists hung a banner and laid rows of children’s shoes outside the home of Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer. Lenorah Ward, 21, Zosia Lewis, 23, and Daniel Formentin, 24, were each handed suspended prison sentences over the stunt.
More arrests followed in July when Youth Demand announced plans to disrupt the State Opening of Parliament.
Despite the latest police intervention, the group is promoting another “welcome talk” in Brighton on Monday evening.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Depends a bit what was in those emails. The bit we've been told is parents-with-media-connections questioning the way the new head was appointed. Without knowing the rest of the story, we can't tell whether the entirety of the messages was hurty words or worse.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
It seems the parents were a nuisance. However, if the content of the emails was abusive, defamatory or in any other way illegal, that would have been mentioned in the complaint and the investigation.
The fact the police dropped the investigation and concluded there was no case to answer suggests there’s nothing much there.
He’s an acquaintance of a friend so I’ll ask my friend to dig for a bit more on this.
To my ear on the Twitter vid he's a credible interviewee.
By his account the arresting and interviewing officers had nothing more than a sketchy written complaint, and no evidence of the alleged crimes whatsoever.
Interesting. Just a finger in the air I didn't like him or trust him and found for the school with costs!! Just a few clues which everyone reads in different ways.....
We have Canada voting on April 28th and Australia voting on May 3rd so the new CANZUK alliance might look very different by early May (or it might not as you could easily imagine Carney keeping the Liberals in power and Albanese getting back with Independent help in Canberra).
Some betting opportunities to consider perhaps next month?
On topic, almost all elections are "pocket book" elections inasmuch as how people "feel" economically is a big factor around how they vote. The decisive rejections of Government aren't usually because of a belief the Opposition would do much better but more a perception they couldn't do any worse.
As we now find in many instances they can and do, the option is either to "get the other lot back in" (which is your only option in a rigid 2-party system) or to look elsewhere at the coterie of snake oil salespeople on both and neither extreme (a bit cynical perhaps).
I've raised this many times on here but there still seems to be no practical solution to the issues of stagnant growth and ambient inflation (I seem to recall the UK economy was particularly prone to stubborn inflation). Getting energy prices and council tax rises back to somewhere in the neighbourhood of actual CPI or RPI inflation would be a good start. The notion our energy prices go up so the customers in the countries which own our energy suppliers can see theirs go down (or not rise as much) is a huge bone of contention.
As for local Government finance, notwithstanding the unnecessary costs of pointless re-organisations, the issues of social care, SEN and temporary accommodation costs all remain unresolved - Newham's 8.9% rise in 2025/26 may be part down to overarching incompetence and part down to the same costs as every other councils but the fact remains most people's incomes haven't risen by 8.9% so it's another cost.
I've no statistical evidence but my assertion is we have stagnated since 2008 in terms of living standards. Yes, our assets (primarily but not exclusively property) have appreciated strongly but unless you can release some of that asset (by downsizing) it's not much help. Yet there's plenty of people with plenty of money - I wonder what the take up in ISAs will be in April 2025?
A slow down in Council Tax rises won't happen. They have had 15 years decades of being shredded, which has fed through to quality of localities and services.
Funding is down hugely - perhaps 30% in real terms since 2010.
Well something is going to need to give as people have less and less disposable income especially at the lower end of the income scale.
It’s all well and fine for well off people here just blithely saying people need to,pay more.
The govt needs to radically review local govt funding to make it fairer and more equitable as well as reviewing what councils are obliged to do.
Agree. The way it is set up at the moment makes it a regressive property tax that makes poorer parts of the country less attractive and contributes to the housing imbalance (along with IHT and CGT allowances).
It just has to be reformed. It's probably the thing I'm most disappointed by with Labour so far.
Musk told the Fox News Channel today that he plans to step down from DOGE in May, apparently at the end of the 130-day cap for the “special government employee” designation that enables him to avoid financial disclosures. In February, White House staffers suggested Musk would stay despite the limit.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Depends a bit what was in those emails. The bit we've been told is parents-with-media-connections questioning the way the new head was appointed. Without knowing the rest of the story, we can't tell whether the entirety of the messages was hurty words or worse.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
It seems the parents were a nuisance. However, if the content of the emails was abusive, defamatory or in any other way illegal, that would have been mentioned in the complaint and the investigation.
The fact the police dropped the investigation and concluded there was no case to answer suggests there’s nothing much there.
He’s an acquaintance of a friend so I’ll ask my friend to dig for a bit more on this.
To my ear on the Twitter vid he's a credible interviewee.
By his account the arresting and interviewing officers had nothing more than a sketchy written complaint, and no evidence of the alleged crimes whatsoever.
IMV if there was anything that could be construed as a threat against the school, or its staff, then it blooming well should be investigated. Even something like: "the head should be shot!", which might just be hyperbole, should provoke questioning. Those questions may well lead to no further action, but ignoring that sort of thing might lead to disaster in other situations, where someone says something that proves not to be hyperbole.
The police can face difficult decisions in cases like this. Much depends on what exactly was said in the emails, and I'm unsure the parents might be the most impartial 'witnesses', and you'd need to see the full chain of comments, not just the ones they choose to show. ...
As we see regularly , they are quick to run mobhanded to innocent remarks on internet but totally ignore nutters they actually know are dangerous. They love the easy options.
We have Canada voting on April 28th and Australia voting on May 3rd so the new CANZUK alliance might look very different by early May (or it might not as you could easily imagine Carney keeping the Liberals in power and Albanese getting back with Independent help in Canberra).
Some betting opportunities to consider perhaps next month?
On topic, almost all elections are "pocket book" elections inasmuch as how people "feel" economically is a big factor around how they vote. The decisive rejections of Government aren't usually because of a belief the Opposition would do much better but more a perception they couldn't do any worse.
As we now find in many instances they can and do, the option is either to "get the other lot back in" (which is your only option in a rigid 2-party system) or to look elsewhere at the coterie of snake oil salespeople on both and neither extreme (a bit cynical perhaps).
I've raised this many times on here but there still seems to be no practical solution to the issues of stagnant growth and ambient inflation (I seem to recall the UK economy was particularly prone to stubborn inflation). Getting energy prices and council tax rises back to somewhere in the neighbourhood of actual CPI or RPI inflation would be a good start. The notion our energy prices go up so the customers in the countries which own our energy suppliers can see theirs go down (or not rise as much) is a huge bone of contention.
As for local Government finance, notwithstanding the unnecessary costs of pointless re-organisations, the issues of social care, SEN and temporary accommodation costs all remain unresolved - Newham's 8.9% rise in 2025/26 may be part down to overarching incompetence and part down to the same costs as every other councils but the fact remains most people's incomes haven't risen by 8.9% so it's another cost.
I've no statistical evidence but my assertion is we have stagnated since 2008 in terms of living standards. Yes, our assets (primarily but not exclusively property) have appreciated strongly but unless you can release some of that asset (by downsizing) it's not much help. Yet there's plenty of people with plenty of money - I wonder what the take up in ISAs will be in April 2025?
A slow down in Council Tax rises won't happen. They have had 15 years decades of being shredded, which has fed through to quality of localities and services.
Funding is down hugely - perhaps 30% in real terms since 2010.
Agreed and one million local Government jobs lost since 2012 suggests, contrary to what the supply siders would have you believe, there was plenty of austerity going on especially in the Coalition years.
why has council tax soared if they got rid of a million duffers. The clowns could not run a bath.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
You think the arbitrary arrest of political dissenters cannot happen in the UK? It already does. www.quaker.org.uk/news-and-eve...
Is there any more reporting on that ? Your link provides very little detail.
A Met spokesperson said: “Youth Demand have stated an intention to ‘shut down’ London over the month of April using tactics including ‘swarming’ and roadblocks.
“While we absolutely recognise the importance of the right to protest, we have a responsibility to intervene to prevent activity that crosses the line from protest into serious disruption and other criminality.
“On Thursday, officers raided a Youth Demand planning meeting where those in attendance were plotting their April action.
“Six people were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to cause a public nuisance.”
The force confirmed that a number of houses were also raided on Thursday and Friday as part of the same operation.
Youth Demand said the meeting was intended to be “an opportunity to share plans for non-violence civil resistance actions” and alleged that one of those arrested is a journalist.
The group has made anti-Israel demands central to its messaging, calling for the UK government to cut all trade with Israel and accusing it of enabling genocide. It also wants the state to raise money from “the super-rich and fossil fuel elite” to pay damages for the effects of fossil fuel burning.
A Youth Demand spokesperson said: “It’s clear that the government sees Youth Demand as a threat. They know that we are right.
“The government is facilitating genocide. Thousands of us are horrified.
“We will not be silenced. Young people all over the country are coming together to shut London down day after day throughout April.”
The group’s tactics have previously drawn criticism, including from within the Jewish community. In April last year, three activists hung a banner and laid rows of children’s shoes outside the home of Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer. Lenorah Ward, 21, Zosia Lewis, 23, and Daniel Formentin, 24, were each handed suspended prison sentences over the stunt.
More arrests followed in July when Youth Demand announced plans to disrupt the State Opening of Parliament.
Despite the latest police intervention, the group is promoting another “welcome talk” in Brighton on Monday evening.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Depends a bit what was in those emails. The bit we've been told is parents-with-media-connections questioning the way the new head was appointed. Without knowing the rest of the story, we can't tell whether the entirety of the messages was hurty words or worse.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
It seems the parents were a nuisance. However, if the content of the emails was abusive, defamatory or in any other way illegal, that would have been mentioned in the complaint and the investigation.
The fact the police dropped the investigation and concluded there was no case to answer suggests there’s nothing much there.
He’s an acquaintance of a friend so I’ll ask my friend to dig for a bit more on this.
To my ear on the Twitter vid he's a credible interviewee.
By his account the arresting and interviewing officers had nothing more than a sketchy written complaint, and no evidence of the alleged crimes whatsoever.
Interesting. Just a finger in the air I didn't like him or trust him and found for the school with costs!! Just a few clues which everyone reads in different ways.....
Why ?
From the reporting this seems to be little more than the school getting annoyed at pushy parents and using the Police against them. There was no crime and no evidence of a crime.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Depends a bit what was in those emails. The bit we've been told is parents-with-media-connections questioning the way the new head was appointed. Without knowing the rest of the story, we can't tell whether the entirety of the messages was hurty words or worse.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
It seems the parents were a nuisance. However, if the content of the emails was abusive, defamatory or in any other way illegal, that would have been mentioned in the complaint and the investigation.
The fact the police dropped the investigation and concluded there was no case to answer suggests there’s nothing much there.
He’s an acquaintance of a friend so I’ll ask my friend to dig for a bit more on this.
To my ear on the Twitter vid he's a credible interviewee.
By his account the arresting and interviewing officers had nothing more than a sketchy written complaint, and no evidence of the alleged crimes whatsoever.
Interesting. Just a finger in the air I didn't like him or trust him and found for the school with costs!! Just a few clues which everyone reads in different ways.....
We have Canada voting on April 28th and Australia voting on May 3rd so the new CANZUK alliance might look very different by early May (or it might not as you could easily imagine Carney keeping the Liberals in power and Albanese getting back with Independent help in Canberra).
Some betting opportunities to consider perhaps next month?
On topic, almost all elections are "pocket book" elections inasmuch as how people "feel" economically is a big factor around how they vote. The decisive rejections of Government aren't usually because of a belief the Opposition would do much better but more a perception they couldn't do any worse.
As we now find in many instances they can and do, the option is either to "get the other lot back in" (which is your only option in a rigid 2-party system) or to look elsewhere at the coterie of snake oil salespeople on both and neither extreme (a bit cynical perhaps).
I've raised this many times on here but there still seems to be no practical solution to the issues of stagnant growth and ambient inflation (I seem to recall the UK economy was particularly prone to stubborn inflation). Getting energy prices and council tax rises back to somewhere in the neighbourhood of actual CPI or RPI inflation would be a good start. The notion our energy prices go up so the customers in the countries which own our energy suppliers can see theirs go down (or not rise as much) is a huge bone of contention.
As for local Government finance, notwithstanding the unnecessary costs of pointless re-organisations, the issues of social care, SEN and temporary accommodation costs all remain unresolved - Newham's 8.9% rise in 2025/26 may be part down to overarching incompetence and part down to the same costs as every other councils but the fact remains most people's incomes haven't risen by 8.9% so it's another cost.
I've no statistical evidence but my assertion is we have stagnated since 2008 in terms of living standards. Yes, our assets (primarily but not exclusively property) have appreciated strongly but unless you can release some of that asset (by downsizing) it's not much help. Yet there's plenty of people with plenty of money - I wonder what the take up in ISAs will be in April 2025?
A slow down in Council Tax rises won't happen. They have had 15 years decades of being shredded, which has fed through to quality of localities and services.
Funding is down hugely - perhaps 30% in real terms since 2010.
Agreed and one million local Government jobs lost since 2012 suggests, contrary to what the supply siders would have you believe, there was plenty of austerity going on especially in the Coalition years.
why has council tax soared if they got rid of a million duffers. The clowns could not run a bath.
The lazy slackers now want to work shorter hours for the same money too. Our money. The public sector is there to serve the public not itself.
Improbably, I ended up feeling rather sorry for the world's richest man.
He may be the world's richest man, but he's obviously deeply unhappy and mentally troubled. As he had a ghastly childhood with a terrible father and rampant bullying at school he lashes out and has to disrupt everything all the time, no matter how much suffering he causes.
He, Trump and Putin are well-matched in those respects (though I've a feeling that Trump was the bully not the bullied at school).
He may have a million times as much money as I and almost everybody I know do, but we're much happier people, which I suppose is what counts at the end of the day.
Cosmic justice?
Just a shame these people have to do so much harm to others. As I mentioned before I knew someone who was a sociopath/psychopath businessman and couldn't get over how much hard work it was to be one and to be successful. It struck me that had he behaved honestly and morally he would have been just as successful and without the fear of it all imploding when all the manipulation is found out, which did happen and which was inevitable.
But then I don't get the power angle either. Although involved in politics I am a behind the scenes person. I have no interest in power.
Similarly with regard to money. I am well off and have everything I need. I don't need more as a status symbol. I can't spend what I have. Yet I am a pauper compared to these guys. Why do they need more than they need? What are they going to spend it on? The only justification for such wealth for me is if you use it to create wealth for others or use it to support good causes.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Depends a bit what was in those emails. The bit we've been told is parents-with-media-connections questioning the way the new head was appointed. Without knowing the rest of the story, we can't tell whether the entirety of the messages was hurty words or worse.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
It seems the parents were a nuisance. However, if the content of the emails was abusive, defamatory or in any other way illegal, that would have been mentioned in the complaint and the investigation.
The fact the police dropped the investigation and concluded there was no case to answer suggests there’s nothing much there.
He’s an acquaintance of a friend so I’ll ask my friend to dig for a bit more on this.
To my ear on the Twitter vid he's a credible interviewee.
By his account the arresting and interviewing officers had nothing more than a sketchy written complaint, and no evidence of the alleged crimes whatsoever.
IMV if there was anything that could be construed as a threat against the school, or its staff, then it blooming well should be investigated. Even something like: "the head should be shot!", which might just be hyperbole, should provoke questioning. Those questions may well lead to no further action, but ignoring that sort of thing might lead to disaster in other situations, where someone says something that proves not to be hyperbole.
The police can face difficult decisions in cases like this. Much depends on what exactly was said in the emails, and I'm unsure the parents might be the most impartial 'witnesses', and you'd need to see the full chain of comments, not just the ones they choose to show. ...
Even if something needs investigation it doesn't need six police officers going to the house and trying to take them out in handcuffs. Whatever these people have done it should be immediately apparent to the school that they're not a terrorist cell
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
They are the ones who are “planning to shut down London… for a month straight”, right?
In direct violation of the “just stop oil” legislation?
Sounds like they were arrested while planning a crime rather than exercising their free speech.
And they weren’t Quakers about their worship, they had just rented a meeting room.
Yes, planning a protest is now a crime. Unless of course you are a farmer worried about tax.
Planning a protest in concert with the local authorities and police to meet established guidelines for organised protest in one thing
Planning to obstruct or damage infrastructure is another.
I speak as one who helped plan protests (of the former type) when at university. Generally for causes I opposed.
*I think it was Wellington who said that any damn fool could get 10,000 people into Hyde Park. But it would take a general to get them out, again.
Only protests that the police and government approve of.
What sort of right to protest is that?
If protesters commit crimes of criminal damage then arrest them. Not for thought crime.
Trump's state visit is going to cause massive issues for the government in this regard. The security required for an unpopular US President will mean the "guidelines" will prohibit demonstrations across a whole swathe of central of London.
The new law mean the police can prohibit a protest if it's too noisy - does that include trying to drown out the US national anthem? This is the real free speech issue in the UK right now.
Do the state visit, make it very public and allow protest, the noisier the better, then if he complains quote his VP who complained about free speech being under threat in Britain.
Do it at Land's End in a tent, then point him the way back home
We have Canada voting on April 28th and Australia voting on May 3rd so the new CANZUK alliance might look very different by early May (or it might not as you could easily imagine Carney keeping the Liberals in power and Albanese getting back with Independent help in Canberra).
Some betting opportunities to consider perhaps next month?
On topic, almost all elections are "pocket book" elections inasmuch as how people "feel" economically is a big factor around how they vote. The decisive rejections of Government aren't usually because of a belief the Opposition would do much better but more a perception they couldn't do any worse.
As we now find in many instances they can and do, the option is either to "get the other lot back in" (which is your only option in a rigid 2-party system) or to look elsewhere at the coterie of snake oil salespeople on both and neither extreme (a bit cynical perhaps).
I've raised this many times on here but there still seems to be no practical solution to the issues of stagnant growth and ambient inflation (I seem to recall the UK economy was particularly prone to stubborn inflation). Getting energy prices and council tax rises back to somewhere in the neighbourhood of actual CPI or RPI inflation would be a good start. The notion our energy prices go up so the customers in the countries which own our energy suppliers can see theirs go down (or not rise as much) is a huge bone of contention.
As for local Government finance, notwithstanding the unnecessary costs of pointless re-organisations, the issues of social care, SEN and temporary accommodation costs all remain unresolved - Newham's 8.9% rise in 2025/26 may be part down to overarching incompetence and part down to the same costs as every other councils but the fact remains most people's incomes haven't risen by 8.9% so it's another cost.
I've no statistical evidence but my assertion is we have stagnated since 2008 in terms of living standards. Yes, our assets (primarily but not exclusively property) have appreciated strongly but unless you can release some of that asset (by downsizing) it's not much help. Yet there's plenty of people with plenty of money - I wonder what the take up in ISAs will be in April 2025?
A slow down in Council Tax rises won't happen. They have had 15 years decades of being shredded, which has fed through to quality of localities and services.
Funding is down hugely - perhaps 30% in real terms since 2010.
Agreed and one million local Government jobs lost since 2012 suggests, contrary to what the supply siders would have you believe, there was plenty of austerity going on especially in the Coalition years.
why has council tax soared if they got rid of a million duffers. The clowns could not run a bath.
Because it's been frozen or capped (cut in real terms) for about 20 years in Scotland, along with the grant from central government.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
You think the arbitrary arrest of political dissenters cannot happen in the UK? It already does. www.quaker.org.uk/news-and-eve...
Is there any more reporting on that ? Your link provides very little detail.
A Met spokesperson said: “Youth Demand have stated an intention to ‘shut down’ London over the month of April using tactics including ‘swarming’ and roadblocks.
“While we absolutely recognise the importance of the right to protest, we have a responsibility to intervene to prevent activity that crosses the line from protest into serious disruption and other criminality.
“On Thursday, officers raided a Youth Demand planning meeting where those in attendance were plotting their April action.
“Six people were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to cause a public nuisance.”
The force confirmed that a number of houses were also raided on Thursday and Friday as part of the same operation.
Youth Demand said the meeting was intended to be “an opportunity to share plans for non-violence civil resistance actions” and alleged that one of those arrested is a journalist.
The group has made anti-Israel demands central to its messaging, calling for the UK government to cut all trade with Israel and accusing it of enabling genocide. It also wants the state to raise money from “the super-rich and fossil fuel elite” to pay damages for the effects of fossil fuel burning.
A Youth Demand spokesperson said: “It’s clear that the government sees Youth Demand as a threat. They know that we are right.
“The government is facilitating genocide. Thousands of us are horrified.
“We will not be silenced. Young people all over the country are coming together to shut London down day after day throughout April.”
The group’s tactics have previously drawn criticism, including from within the Jewish community. In April last year, three activists hung a banner and laid rows of children’s shoes outside the home of Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer. Lenorah Ward, 21, Zosia Lewis, 23, and Daniel Formentin, 24, were each handed suspended prison sentences over the stunt.
More arrests followed in July when Youth Demand announced plans to disrupt the State Opening of Parliament.
Despite the latest police intervention, the group is promoting another “welcome talk” in Brighton on Monday evening.
I do wonder what crime was broken by flying a banner and leaving shoes on the pavement. Littering?
Section 42 of the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 covers the harassment of a person at their home address if a police officer suspects it is causing alarm or distress to the occupant.
Three people have been found guilty of public order offences after a pro-Palestinian demonstration outside Sir Keir Starmer's house.
Leonorah Ward, 21, from Leeds; Zosia Lewis, 23, from Newcastle-upon-Tyne; and Daniel Formentin, 24, also from Leeds, were also found guilty of breaching court bail, but had denied all the charges.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
You think the arbitrary arrest of political dissenters cannot happen in the UK? It already does. www.quaker.org.uk/news-and-eve...
Is there any more reporting on that ? Your link provides very little detail.
A Met spokesperson said: “Youth Demand have stated an intention to ‘shut down’ London over the month of April using tactics including ‘swarming’ and roadblocks.
“While we absolutely recognise the importance of the right to protest, we have a responsibility to intervene to prevent activity that crosses the line from protest into serious disruption and other criminality.
“On Thursday, officers raided a Youth Demand planning meeting where those in attendance were plotting their April action.
“Six people were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to cause a public nuisance.”
The force confirmed that a number of houses were also raided on Thursday and Friday as part of the same operation.
Youth Demand said the meeting was intended to be “an opportunity to share plans for non-violence civil resistance actions” and alleged that one of those arrested is a journalist.
The group has made anti-Israel demands central to its messaging, calling for the UK government to cut all trade with Israel and accusing it of enabling genocide. It also wants the state to raise money from “the super-rich and fossil fuel elite” to pay damages for the effects of fossil fuel burning.
A Youth Demand spokesperson said: “It’s clear that the government sees Youth Demand as a threat. They know that we are right.
“The government is facilitating genocide. Thousands of us are horrified.
“We will not be silenced. Young people all over the country are coming together to shut London down day after day throughout April.”
The group’s tactics have previously drawn criticism, including from within the Jewish community. In April last year, three activists hung a banner and laid rows of children’s shoes outside the home of Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer. Lenorah Ward, 21, Zosia Lewis, 23, and Daniel Formentin, 24, were each handed suspended prison sentences over the stunt.
More arrests followed in July when Youth Demand announced plans to disrupt the State Opening of Parliament.
Despite the latest police intervention, the group is promoting another “welcome talk” in Brighton on Monday evening.
🇺🇸 Fox News host Jesse Watters: “We don’t need friends. If we have to burn some bridges with Denmark to take Greenland, so be it. We’re big boys. We dropped bombs on Japan, and now they’re our ally. America isn’t handcuffed by history.”
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Depends a bit what was in those emails. The bit we've been told is parents-with-media-connections questioning the way the new head was appointed. Without knowing the rest of the story, we can't tell whether the entirety of the messages was hurty words or worse.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
It seems the parents were a nuisance. However, if the content of the emails was abusive, defamatory or in any other way illegal, that would have been mentioned in the complaint and the investigation.
The fact the police dropped the investigation and concluded there was no case to answer suggests there’s nothing much there.
He’s an acquaintance of a friend so I’ll ask my friend to dig for a bit more on this.
To my ear on the Twitter vid he's a credible interviewee.
By his account the arresting and interviewing officers had nothing more than a sketchy written complaint, and no evidence of the alleged crimes whatsoever.
IMV if there was anything that could be construed as a threat against the school, or its staff, then it blooming well should be investigated. Even something like: "the head should be shot!", which might just be hyperbole, should provoke questioning. Those questions may well lead to no further action, but ignoring that sort of thing might lead to disaster in other situations, where someone says something that proves not to be hyperbole.
The police can face difficult decisions in cases like this. Much depends on what exactly was said in the emails, and I'm unsure the parents might be the most impartial 'witnesses', and you'd need to see the full chain of comments, not just the ones they choose to show. ...
Even if something needs investigation it doesn't need six police officers going to the house and trying to take them out in handcuffs. Whatever these people have done it should be immediately apparent to the school that they're not a terrorist cell
Similarly more than twenty police armed with tasers breaking into a place of worship to arrest 6 young women seems a bit heavy handed. Unless you are Putin of course.
Whatever happened to that young idealistic barrister who did pro bono work for the McLibel two? We could do with someone like that in government now.
Morning All! Intelligence from Bangkok, courtesy of my son, who phoned half an hour of so ago. Everything seems back to normal now, apart from in the area of the collapsed building. His daughter's school was disrupted; lessons stopped and as city transport was in a mess, it took his two daughters ages to get home. Suvarnabhumi, the main Bangkok Airport was briefly closed and he was half an hour late leaving Taiwan. One of his daughters has texted Mrs C to say that some of her friends who live in apartment blocks have cracked walls but no-one seems to be moving out, at least at the moment.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
According to radio 4 they sent 80 emails in a 6 month period (basically one every 2 working days) having been banned from the school premises after challenging the appointment process for the head teacher and “casting aspersions” on the chair of the governors.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
It's all a bit ‘hurty words’. One email every two days? I get more spam from LinkedIn than that. If you don't like particular emails then block them, don't read them. And the same advice to footballers and MPs.
Depends a bit what was in those emails. The bit we've been told is parents-with-media-connections questioning the way the new head was appointed. Without knowing the rest of the story, we can't tell whether the entirety of the messages was hurty words or worse.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
It seems the parents were a nuisance. However, if the content of the emails was abusive, defamatory or in any other way illegal, that would have been mentioned in the complaint and the investigation.
The fact the police dropped the investigation and concluded there was no case to answer suggests there’s nothing much there.
He’s an acquaintance of a friend so I’ll ask my friend to dig for a bit more on this.
To my ear on the Twitter vid he's a credible interviewee.
By his account the arresting and interviewing officers had nothing more than a sketchy written complaint, and no evidence of the alleged crimes whatsoever.
Interesting. Just a finger in the air I didn't like him or trust him and found for the school with costs!! Just a few clues which everyone reads in different ways.....
Why ?
From the reporting this seems to be little more than the school getting annoyed at pushy parents and using the Police against them. There was no crime and no evidence of a crime.
Absolutely. I work in a job where I have to deal with vexatious or abusive emails on a daily basis. With the time wasting ones (my most long running one is from someone who wants his claim to the throne acknowledged) I eventually tell the person that their emails will be read but not answered unless there is something material to add to their case. In the past week I have been called a scumbag and a "leach hanging off the public teat" (I rather liked that one). The only email I've ever reported to the police is one where the sender said they were going to stand outside a government department and start stabbing people.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
They are the ones who are “planning to shut down London… for a month straight”, right?
In direct violation of the “just stop oil” legislation?
Sounds like they were arrested while planning a crime rather than exercising their free speech.
And they weren’t Quakers about their worship, they had just rented a meeting room.
Yes, planning a protest is now a crime. Unless of course you are a farmer worried about tax.
Planning a protest in concert with the local authorities and police to meet established guidelines for organised protest in one thing
Planning to obstruct or damage infrastructure is another.
I speak as one who helped plan protests (of the former type) when at university. Generally for causes I opposed.
*I think it was Wellington who said that any damn fool could get 10,000 people into Hyde Park. But it would take a general to get them out, again.
Only protests that the police and government approve of.
What sort of right to protest is that?
If protesters commit crimes of criminal damage then arrest them. Not for thought crime.
So if you are aware that your neighbour is planning to murder his wife you shouldn’t intervene because it’s “thought crime”?
That's a bit Minority Report isn't it? Unless he's shared his plans.
Let’s say you accidentally get his Amazon parcel with some black tarpaulin, duct tape, a shovel and a pair of ninja swords…
People have been arrested, many, many times, for planning crimes.
Planning a crime is a crime in UK law. Has been since forever.
I don't think anyone is arguing against that. It's just an effect of this law that people sitting down in a coffee shop to discuss how to protest Trump might get arrested because they didn't invite a senior police officer and council officials along to ensure they were within the arbitrary guidelines they might rustle up.
Yes, it's a bad law, and was criticised on this exact basis when going through Parliament.
And it's given our deeply fallible police an impossible task. So it's not entirely their fault.
Talking of ICE, masked up agents pulling a legally-in-USA PhD student off the streets. She wrote a piece in the student newspaper criticising Israel. It's getting nastier.
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national and PhD student in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, was arrested outside her off-campus apartment. Then renditioned in violation of a Court Order. ... Khanbabai said Ozturk had valid F-1 visa status as a PhD student. She has filed a habeas petition in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts for Ozturk’s release from detention. ... “Unless otherwise ordered by the Court, petitioner shall not be moved outside the District of Massachusetts without first providing advance notice of the intended move,” wrote federal judge Indira Talwani in a three-page order to ICE on Tuesday night. ... But shortly after the judge made that order, federal authorities transferred Ozturk to Louisiana, according to her attorney. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2025-03-26/tufts-international-graduate-student-taken-into-ice-custody
You think the arbitrary arrest of political dissenters cannot happen in the UK? It already does. www.quaker.org.uk/news-and-eve...
Is there any more reporting on that ? Your link provides very little detail.
A Met spokesperson said: “Youth Demand have stated an intention to ‘shut down’ London over the month of April using tactics including ‘swarming’ and roadblocks.
“While we absolutely recognise the importance of the right to protest, we have a responsibility to intervene to prevent activity that crosses the line from protest into serious disruption and other criminality.
“On Thursday, officers raided a Youth Demand planning meeting where those in attendance were plotting their April action.
“Six people were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to cause a public nuisance.”
The force confirmed that a number of houses were also raided on Thursday and Friday as part of the same operation.
Youth Demand said the meeting was intended to be “an opportunity to share plans for non-violence civil resistance actions” and alleged that one of those arrested is a journalist.
The group has made anti-Israel demands central to its messaging, calling for the UK government to cut all trade with Israel and accusing it of enabling genocide. It also wants the state to raise money from “the super-rich and fossil fuel elite” to pay damages for the effects of fossil fuel burning.
A Youth Demand spokesperson said: “It’s clear that the government sees Youth Demand as a threat. They know that we are right.
“The government is facilitating genocide. Thousands of us are horrified.
“We will not be silenced. Young people all over the country are coming together to shut London down day after day throughout April.”
The group’s tactics have previously drawn criticism, including from within the Jewish community. In April last year, three activists hung a banner and laid rows of children’s shoes outside the home of Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer. Lenorah Ward, 21, Zosia Lewis, 23, and Daniel Formentin, 24, were each handed suspended prison sentences over the stunt.
More arrests followed in July when Youth Demand announced plans to disrupt the State Opening of Parliament.
Despite the latest police intervention, the group is promoting another “welcome talk” in Brighton on Monday evening.
I do wonder what crime was broken by flying a banner and leaving shoes on the pavement. Littering?
Section 42 of the Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 covers the harassment of a person at their home address if a police officer suspects it is causing alarm or distress to the occupant.
Three people have been found guilty of public order offences after a pro-Palestinian demonstration outside Sir Keir Starmer's house.
Leonorah Ward, 21, from Leeds; Zosia Lewis, 23, from Newcastle-upon-Tyne; and Daniel Formentin, 24, also from Leeds, were also found guilty of breaching court bail, but had denied all the charges.
It would be helpful if the press routinely told us which crime had been broken when reporting a trial. Even that report just calls it "public order offences". I also don't see how the above would cause "alarm or distress" to Sir Keir but his family probably see it differently. Maybe we need a better method of protecting the pavement outside his home.
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Musk is deflated, of course, and apparently he's upset as well.
Your link provides very little detail.
https://x.com/borisjohnson/status/1905745383466344632?s=46&t=fJymV-V84rexmlQMLXHHJQ
The former can be uncomfortable for economists but not bad for working age voters, and quite handy for inter generational equity. The latter - which we had a bout of in 2022 and 23 - is bad for everyone.
We could do with some wage and service sector inflation. It would help to correct the massive wealth transfers of the last decade from working to retired people, encourage business investment in automation, and encourage consumer spending.
Bring back boom and bust!
For political purposes, economic statistics are just about predicting how likely that is.
It was a meeting of the group "Youth Demand" who rented a room at the Meeting House. They are protesting for a boycott of Israel and for climate action.
https://youthdemand.org/
https://x.com/c_kletzer/status/1905888893737590924?t=0ax4E2LsJ9FxEAZG7gXwuA&s=19
In direct violation of the “just stop oil” legislation?
Sounds like they were arrested while planning a crime rather than exercising their free speech.
And they weren’t Quakers about their worship, they had just rented a meeting room.
While the police may have been heavy handed it does seem like there could potentially be a case to answer on harassment
I'm not sure what the law would be that was used to justify the police breaking down the door (rather than knock or ring the bell) of a Quaker Meeting House.
"The Metropolitan Police said the individuals were detained on suspicion of conspiracy to cause a public nuisance after officers raided a welcome talk at the Quaker Meeting House at 7.30pm on Thursday."
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/youth-activists-arrested-over-plan-to-shut-down-london-in-anti-israel-campaign/
That looks weak - it was a Welcome meeting, not a training for a specific event meeting. If they just keep quiet, the police may struggle to demonstrate evidence of mens rea - unless they are fishing.
This is from their website - and is not fine. Other citizens have the right to use the roads and other state facilities. You can protest and make your point, but not actively seek to prevent others going about their lawful business.
In April, Youth Demand will shut London down with swarming road-blocks day after day after day.
https://youthdemand.org/take-action/
Planning to obstruct or damage infrastructure is another.
I speak as one who helped plan protests (of the former type) when at university. Generally for causes I opposed.
*I think it was Wellington who said that any damn fool could get 10,000 people into Hyde Park. But it would take a general to get them out, again.
Freeloading, moi? Although one could suggest he is highly qualified to write on the subject.
What sort of right to protest is that?
If protesters commit crimes of criminal damage then arrest them. Not for thought crime.
The mum locked up is a producer for Times Radio.
The Times article is quite good and detailed (I commend the journo):
https://archive.is/20250328191932/https://www.thetimes.com/article/d8c8566b-99b1-45c6-814b-008042d74a3a
Interview with the dad:
https://x.com/timesradio/status/1905693691416883419
It is a far more credible complaint imo that Allison Pearson's. I'd call it afaics that it was an acting head who they had been slightly rude about ("control freak" - imo accurate from the accounts) in a parents' group on Whatapp, who put in an over-juicy complaint and so the police went in feet first and mob handed.
The one negative point I can see for the parents is that the Whatsapp group was a little large with 1.2 million members. And perhaps initially emailing all the Governors when he did not get a reply was a bit OTT.
I think the arrest may have been unnecessary - chap said he would quite happily have toddled along to the station for an interview.
The authorities are trying to let it lie. I don't think it will.
For example some people want higher interest rates or house prices while other want lower.
So its impossible to please everyone.
Also those people thinking 'a strong pound' might be a good thing as it means a penny off petrol prices without realising it also means thousands off their pension funds.
The new law mean the police can prohibit a protest if it's too noisy - does that include trying to drown out the US national anthem? This is the real free speech issue in the UK right now.
In a goods / commodities inflation spiral you just drain wealth and opportunity out of the country into the hands of large scale primary producers.
Not one to try in Scotland, though. They'd pull in 8365 policemen from somewhere for a moon.
But I am always a bit suspicious of reports largely based on one side of the story (see immigration stories in the daily mail & guardian)
Planning a crime is a crime in UK law. Has been since forever.
I could be a really interesting one - is sharing just the name of someone with 1.2 million people worse than sharing the address and phone number of someone with 120 people? In terms of stimulated harrassment, I would guess the former is much worse.
Everything seems depressing at the moment. If somebody cropped up who seemed able to offer some genuine, practicable solutions, it seems depressingly likely it would be a false hope.
But I hope you all have a good day!
On what's reported so far, it could either be a reasonable response, or a gross overreaction.
Modern communication has made the job of balancing the right to protest, and the maintenance of public order a far harder task than it used to be.
And a school blocking emails from a parent is a plan with many drawbacks. If each of those emails needed a considered reply, that's going to take more management time than a primary school has going spare.
The need for it doesn't go away, though.
The 1.2m was quoted by the school in a letter to the parents. Mistake on my part - 1.2m refers to a Facebook group in the letter shown in vid here:
https://x.com/timesradio/status/1905693691416883419
Only protests that the government and police approve of are now legal.
On the goods inflation front we may get a bit of a benefit from US tariffs on Canada and Mexico if that diverts agri products (ones we can’t grow here) into the European market.
Tougher Sentances for Geography Teachers
A Right Royal Kick up the Prince's Backside
He’s an acquaintance of a friend so I’ll ask my friend to dig for a bit more on this.
The government and the police don’t care about the *subject* of the protest
They do care about ensuring the correct safety and other procedures are followed including pre-notification.
That is a reasonable balance between the rights of the uninvolved citizen and the right to protest.
It’s just a different form of not having the right to shout “fire” in a crossed theatre
https://x.com/timesradio/status/1905693691416883419
By his account the arresting and interviewing officers had nothing more than a sketchy written complaint, and no evidence of the alleged crimes whatsoever.
What if the appetite for competitvely priced US debt is no longer out there?
We have Canada voting on April 28th and Australia voting on May 3rd so the new CANZUK alliance might look very different by early May (or it might not as you could easily imagine Carney keeping the Liberals in power and Albanese getting back with Independent help in Canberra).
Some betting opportunities to consider perhaps next month?
On topic, almost all elections are "pocket book" elections inasmuch as how people "feel" economically is a big factor around how they vote. The decisive rejections of Government aren't usually because of a belief the Opposition would do much better but more a perception they couldn't do any worse.
As we now find in many instances they can and do, the option is either to "get the other lot back in" (which is your only option in a rigid 2-party system) or to look elsewhere at the coterie of snake oil salespeople on both and neither extreme (a bit cynical perhaps).
I've raised this many times on here but there still seems to be no practical solution to the issues of stagnant growth and ambient inflation (I seem to recall the UK economy was particularly prone to stubborn inflation). Getting energy prices and council tax rises back to somewhere in the neighbourhood of actual CPI or RPI inflation would be a good start. The notion our energy prices go up so the customers in the countries which own our energy suppliers can see theirs go down (or not rise as much) is a huge bone of contention.
As for local Government finance, notwithstanding the unnecessary costs of pointless re-organisations, the issues of social care, SEN and temporary accommodation costs all remain unresolved - Newham's 8.9% rise in 2025/26 may be part down to overarching incompetence and part down to the same costs as every other councils but the fact remains most people's incomes haven't risen by 8.9% so it's another cost.
I've no statistical evidence but my assertion is we have stagnated since 2008 in terms of living standards. Yes, our assets (primarily but not exclusively property) have appreciated strongly but unless you can release some of that asset (by downsizing) it's not much help. Yet there's plenty of people with plenty of money - I wonder what the take up in ISAs will be in April 2025?
Funding is down hugely - perhaps 30% in real terms since 2010.
CPC put owning the Libs above patriotism by openly cheering on an enemy power.
Now super butthurt folk will coalesce around the flag to stop them.
True globalists about to get a kicking from the citizens of somewhere.
There was good deflation caused by globalisation, and the entry of China onto world markets, leading to lower prices.
The problem was treating it like bad deflation (lack of demand) and over-inflating the economy with ultra-low interest rates and QE.
It's industrial electricity costs where the UK is a complete disaster, not household bills. Industrial gas and diesel are higher too, but not far off the European average.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYBgE5C4HaY
Improbably, I ended up feeling rather sorry for the world's richest man.
He may be the world's richest man, but he's obviously deeply unhappy and mentally troubled. As he had a ghastly childhood with a terrible father and rampant bullying at school he lashes out and has to disrupt everything all the time, no matter how much suffering he causes.
He, Trump and Putin are well-matched in those respects (though I've a feeling that Trump was the bully not the bullied at school).
He may have a million times as much money as I and almost everybody I know do, but we're much happier people, which I suppose is what counts at the end of the day.
Cosmic justice?
The police can face difficult decisions in cases like this. Much depends on what exactly was said in the emails, and I'm unsure the parents might be the most impartial 'witnesses', and you'd need to see the full chain of comments, not just the ones they choose to show. ...
If he was bullied, then I'd expect him to have learnt a little of how it feels, and not to act the way he is at the moment.
Acting like a bully.
It’s all well and fine for well off people here just blithely saying people need to,pay more.
The govt needs to radically review local govt funding to make it fairer and more equitable as well as reviewing what councils are obliged to do.
“While we absolutely recognise the importance of the right to protest, we have a responsibility to intervene to prevent activity that crosses the line from protest into serious disruption and other criminality.
“On Thursday, officers raided a Youth Demand planning meeting where those in attendance were plotting their April action.
“Six people were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to cause a public nuisance.”
The force confirmed that a number of houses were also raided on Thursday and Friday as part of the same operation.
Youth Demand said the meeting was intended to be “an opportunity to share plans for non-violence civil resistance actions” and alleged that one of those arrested is a journalist.
The group has made anti-Israel demands central to its messaging, calling for the UK government to cut all trade with Israel and accusing it of enabling genocide. It also wants the state to raise money from “the super-rich and fossil fuel elite” to pay damages for the effects of fossil fuel burning.
A Youth Demand spokesperson said: “It’s clear that the government sees Youth Demand as a threat. They know that we are right.
“The government is facilitating genocide. Thousands of us are horrified.
“We will not be silenced. Young people all over the country are coming together to shut London down day after day throughout April.”
The group’s tactics have previously drawn criticism, including from within the Jewish community. In April last year, three activists hung a banner and laid rows of children’s shoes outside the home of Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer. Lenorah Ward, 21, Zosia Lewis, 23, and Daniel Formentin, 24, were each handed suspended prison sentences over the stunt.
More arrests followed in July when Youth Demand announced plans to disrupt the State Opening of Parliament.
Despite the latest police intervention, the group is promoting another “welcome talk” in Brighton on Monday evening.
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/youth-activists-arrested-over-plan-to-shut-down-london-in-anti-israel-campaign/
https://www.hertsmerelibdems.org.uk/our-team/bushey-park
It just has to be reformed. It's probably the thing I'm most disappointed by with Labour so far.
Letter from an American email
https://x.com/accidentalp/status/1905883994937319567?s=61
From the reporting this seems to be little more than the school getting annoyed at pushy parents and using the Police against them. There was no crime and no evidence of a crime.
But then I don't get the power angle either. Although involved in politics I am a behind the scenes person. I have no interest in power.
Similarly with regard to money. I am well off and have everything I need. I don't need more as a status symbol. I can't spend what I have. Yet I am a pauper compared to these guys. Why do they need more than they need? What are they going to spend it on? The only justification for such wealth for me is if you use it to create wealth for others or use it to support good causes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx77ljll077o
Three people have been found guilty of public order offences after a pro-Palestinian demonstration outside Sir Keir Starmer's house.
Leonorah Ward, 21, from Leeds; Zosia Lewis, 23, from Newcastle-upon-Tyne; and Daniel Formentin, 24, also from Leeds, were also found guilty of breaching court bail, but had denied all the charges.
@NOELreports
🇺🇸 Fox News host Jesse Watters: “We don’t need friends. If we have to burn some bridges with Denmark to take Greenland, so be it. We’re big boys. We dropped bombs on Japan, and now they’re our ally. America isn’t handcuffed by history.”
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1905927108712386791
Whatever happened to that young idealistic barrister who did pro bono work for the McLibel two? We could do with someone like that in government now.
Intelligence from Bangkok, courtesy of my son, who phoned half an hour of so ago.
Everything seems back to normal now, apart from in the area of the collapsed building. His daughter's school was disrupted; lessons stopped and as city transport was in a mess, it took his two daughters ages to get home. Suvarnabhumi, the main Bangkok Airport was briefly closed and he was half an hour late leaving Taiwan. One of his daughters has texted Mrs C to say that some of her friends who live in apartment blocks have cracked walls but no-one seems to be moving out, at least at the moment.
And it's given our deeply fallible police an impossible task. So it's not entirely their fault.