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Should we be talking about a Nicola Sturgeon comeback? – politicalbetting.com

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edited March 27 in General
Should we be talking about a Nicola Sturgeon comeback? – politicalbetting.com

Scots are more positive towards John Swinney than Keir StarmerNicola Sturgeon: 38% favourableJohn Swinney: 34%Keir Starmer: 27%Humza Yousaf: 22%Kate Forbes: 21%Anas Sarwar: 20%Nigel Farage: 19%Patrick Harvie: 16%Douglas Ross: 14%Kemi Badenoch: 13%yougov.co.uk/politics/art…

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  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,631
    First and no
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,375
    I fully expect the headline will trigger a barrage of turnips towards me from Ayrshire.
  • QTWTAIN
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,237
    edited March 27
    OT. Flight bookings from Canada to US down 70% !
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,237
    I hope so. I always thought her a very talented politician and had she been English and Labour I've no doubt she's have had a very good chance of becoming leader.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,199
    I reckon my appetite for Sturgeon is sated for one lifetime...
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,408
    Kristi Noem does a piece to camera with prisoners in the background to warn people that they risk being deported to El Salvador:

    https://x.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1905054402559299986
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,729
    On a similar poll, Fun Dad Ed Davey is the most popular party leader nationally.

    Around a quarter (24%) hold a favourable view of Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey, while 30% are unfavourable (net -6).

    Best net favourability score compared to Starmer (-17), Farage (-20), Badenoch (-26) and Reeves (-33)!

    https://bsky.app/profile/ipsosintheuk.bsky.social/post/3lle3cg46ks2t
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,516

    I fully expect the headline will trigger a barrage of turnips towards me from Ayrshire.

    What, doesn't Malcolm want a Nicola Sturgeon comeback?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,004

    Kristi Noem does a piece to camera with prisoners in the background to warn people that they risk being deported to El Salvador:

    https://x.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1905054402559299986

    If I had tattoos in US I would be having them wiped tomorrow.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,509
    Poland suspends migrants' right to apply for asylum

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8719dl587zo
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,729
    kinabalu said:

    I fully expect the headline will trigger a barrage of turnips towards me from Ayrshire.

    What, doesn't Malcolm want a Nicola Sturgeon comeback?
    He is a Salmondite, not a Sturgeonophile.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,375

    I reckon my appetite for Sturgeon is sated for one lifetime...

    The comedy with the motorhome was brilliant, like Rinka and Jeremy Thorpe for a new generation.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,004
    Roger said:

    OT. Flight bookings from Canada to US down 70% !

    The other 30% are US citizens getting out before the Marines go in?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,408
    carnforth said:

    Poland suspends migrants' right to apply for asylum

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8719dl587zo

    Donald T?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    After Starmer's Ninja Sword tweet, today, which literally made my colon implode into my spleen from cringe, I think even I think better of Nicola Sturgeon compared to Keir "Sir" Starmer
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,509

    carnforth said:

    Poland suspends migrants' right to apply for asylum

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8719dl587zo

    Donald T?
    People who think anyone who is pro-european is moderate may be slightly surprised.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,237
    Foxy said:

    kinabalu said:

    I fully expect the headline will trigger a barrage of turnips towards me from Ayrshire.

    What, doesn't Malcolm want a Nicola Sturgeon comeback?
    He is a Salmondite, not a Sturgeonophile.
    Hmmm ....a bit fishy
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,729

    Kristi Noem does a piece to camera with prisoners in the background to warn people that they risk being deported to El Salvador:

    https://x.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1905054402559299986

    If I had tattoos in US I would be having them wiped tomorrow.
    This notorious gang member could do with some time in chokey:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/11/15/pete-hegseth-tattoos-mapped-ink-kicked-off-biden-security/
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,869
    John Swinney seems to be doing a good job as First Minister and I doubt he would welcome Sturgeon returning to politics
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    Foxy said:

    On a similar poll, Fun Dad Ed Davey is the most popular party leader nationally.

    Around a quarter (24%) hold a favourable view of Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey, while 30% are unfavourable (net -6).

    Best net favourability score compared to Starmer (-17), Farage (-20), Badenoch (-26) and Reeves (-33)!

    https://bsky.app/profile/ipsosintheuk.bsky.social/post/3lle3cg46ks2t

    I really really doubt that more than 5% of the country could identify Ed Davey from a photo as "the leader of the Lib Dems"

    So that 24% favourable is 1 in 4, of 5 people in every hundred, which basically means the Davey family and possibly his Waitrose delivery guy, maybe
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,770

    Kristi Noem does a piece to camera with prisoners in the background to warn people that they risk being deported to El Salvador:

    https://x.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1905054402559299986

    Illegally renditioned.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,516

    Kristi Noem does a piece to camera with prisoners in the background to warn people that they risk being deported to El Salvador:

    https://x.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1905054402559299986

    Suella will be so jealous watching that.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,802
    No.

    And on that polling it looks as if the Scots really don't like anyone at all. Even Kate Forbes who in any sensible world would be top by a mile.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,729
    carnforth said:

    Poland suspends migrants' right to apply for asylum

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8719dl587zo

    Migrants from Belarus that is.

  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,237

    Kristi Noem does a piece to camera with prisoners in the background to warn people that they risk being deported to El Salvador:

    https://x.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1905054402559299986

    What a hideous country the US has become.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    carnforth said:

    Poland suspends migrants' right to apply for asylum

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8719dl587zo

    Great, let's just do the same as major EU nation Poland. Suspend the asylum rights of anyone coming from France or Belgium. That's the boat problem sorted in one go
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,770
    Leon said:

    After Starmer's Ninja Sword tweet, today, which literally made my colon implode into my spleen from cringe, I think even I think better of Nicola Sturgeon compared to Keir "Sir" Starmer

    This describes you, when resorting to silly hyperbole.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kj9w2zdlgo
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    Scottish indy is never going to happen, now

    By the time "a generation" has passed and all the other political ducks are in line - ie a UK government willing to grant a referendum, confident it will win, the euro problem solved, the bank problem solved, defence solved, etc etc etc - then the world will be so unrecognisable independence will seem, simply, absurd. Like fiercely fighting for the right to keep beach donkeys in your attic

    They had one chance, they came damn close. But, tis done
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,369
    Leon said:

    Scottish indy is never going to happen, now

    By the time "a generation" has passed and all the other political ducks are in line - ie a UK government willing to grant a referendum, confident it will win, the euro problem solved, the bank problem solved, defence solved, etc etc etc - then the world will be so unrecognisable independence will seem, simply, absurd. Like fiercely fighting for the right to keep beach donkeys in your attic

    They had one chance, they came damn close. But, tis done

    Don't agree. Don't think I'll see it, but too many young people are sympathetic. Britian will rejoin the EU, then fall apart. As will other European counties.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    After Starmer's Ninja Sword tweet, today, which literally made my colon implode into my spleen from cringe, I think even I think better of Nicola Sturgeon compared to Keir "Sir" Starmer

    This describes you, when resorting to silly hyperbole.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kj9w2zdlgo
    It wasn't hyperbole. My colon literally imploded into my spleen. Have you not encountered this condition? Surely a glance at some of your own comments must induce a spasm

    If and when it happens, this is what it is (so you're ready):

    Retrograde Spleno-Colonic Invaginopathy with Acute Cringe-Induced Visceral Telescoping Syndrome (RSCI-ACVTS)

    This condition presents with sudden internal organ displacement following exposure to extreme cringe stimuli, characterized by paradoxical transabdominal migration of colonic structures into the splenic parenchyma. The pathophysiology involves cringe-mediated vagal hyperreactivity, triggering abnormal peristaltic reverse-propulsion and subsequent viscero-splenic fusion

    Patients typically present following exposure to public karaoke performances, unwanted PDA, or viewing of particularly awkward social media content by senior Labour politicians. Treatment involves immediate cringe removal therapy and anti-embarrassment medications, or suicide
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250

    Leon said:

    Scottish indy is never going to happen, now

    By the time "a generation" has passed and all the other political ducks are in line - ie a UK government willing to grant a referendum, confident it will win, the euro problem solved, the bank problem solved, defence solved, etc etc etc - then the world will be so unrecognisable independence will seem, simply, absurd. Like fiercely fighting for the right to keep beach donkeys in your attic

    They had one chance, they came damn close. But, tis done

    Don't agree. Don't think I'll see it, but too many young people are sympathetic. Britian will rejoin the EU, then fall apart. As will other European counties.
    Ridiculous

    Remember, I am the great extrapolator. You are not
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,903
    Good god. These people walk amongst you.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,903
    carnforth said:

    Poland suspends migrants' right to apply for asylum

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8719dl587zo

    Its coming.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,903

    John Swinney seems to be doing a good job as First Minister and I doubt he would welcome Sturgeon returning to politics

    What on earth makes you think that? They stagger from one shambles to another.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    Jesus. Starmer is being BRUTALLY mocked for the Ninja Swords Tweet

    Absolute shredding on social media. He is Pure Embarrassment, he makes me ashamed
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,237
    edited March 27
    It's an ill wind that blows nobody any good and never truer than now. Trump is doing wonders for leaders around the globe. My french neighbour says Macron has never looked so good and though us Remainers have always had a soft spot for our ex governor of the BoE Trump has been the making of him.

    And then there's Starmer.... Maybe not reflected in the polls quite yet but it's pretty clear to most in the UK that he's the man for the moment.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,458
    Given Swinney has a higher net favourable rating than Sturgeon it is unlikely she would replace him anytime soon. Given the UK government has the final say on Indyref2 anyway she could not have held a legal one notwithstanding No still leads
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,458

    Leon said:

    Scottish indy is never going to happen, now

    By the time "a generation" has passed and all the other political ducks are in line - ie a UK government willing to grant a referendum, confident it will win, the euro problem solved, the bank problem solved, defence solved, etc etc etc - then the world will be so unrecognisable independence will seem, simply, absurd. Like fiercely fighting for the right to keep beach donkeys in your attic

    They had one chance, they came damn close. But, tis done

    Don't agree. Don't think I'll see it, but too many young people are sympathetic. Britian will rejoin the EU, then fall apart. As will other European counties.
    At most the UK will rejoin EFTA not the full EU
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,237
    Foxy said:

    Quote of the day from Kemi Badenoch:

    “For too long, politics has been about winning elections, not planning for the future. I want to change that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3lleu3x57fs26

    Another one for the men in flapping white coats.....
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    Roger said:

    It's an ill wind that blows nobody any good and never truer than now. Trump is doing wonders for leaders around the globe. My french neighbour says Macron has never looked so good and though us Remainers have always had a soft spot for our ex governor of the BoE Trump has been the making of him.

    And then there's Starmer.... Maybe not reflected in the polls quite yet but it's pretty clear to most in the UK that he's the man for the moment.

    NARRATOR: Keir Starmer tweeted this today:

    "Confirmed: Ninja swords will be banned by this summer.

    When we promise action we take it."

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1905238067843150186
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,650
    edited March 27
    Leon said:

    Roger said:

    It's an ill wind that blows nobody any good and never truer than now. Trump is doing wonders for leaders around the globe. My french neighbour says Macron has never looked so good and though us Remainers have always had a soft spot for our ex governor of the BoE Trump has been the making of him.

    And then there's Starmer.... Maybe not reflected in the polls quite yet but it's pretty clear to most in the UK that he's the man for the moment.

    NARRATOR: Keir Starmer tweeted this today:

    "Confirmed: Ninja swords will be banned by this summer.

    When we promise action we take it."

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1905238067843150186
    I didn’t know they were freely sold and in general circulation at the moment. Every day a school day.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,356
    Leon said:

    Jesus. Starmer is being BRUTALLY mocked for the Ninja Swords Tweet

    Absolute shredding on social media. He is Pure Embarrassment, he makes me ashamed

    Well, Shredder was the baddie in Teenage Mutant Ninj... er, I mean HERO Turtles...
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    Remember when Starmer was going to SMASH THE GANGS to stop the small boat people?

    "357 migrants in six boats were brought to Dover yesterday."

    https://x.com/SimonJonesNews/status/1905255386283700519

    It's getting worse and worse, and costing us many billions a year, money we simply do not have

    Has Starmer done a fucking thing about it? No, he is incapable

    But he has "banned Ninja swords. Confirmed. Because when we promise action, we take it"
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,869
    Roger said:

    Foxy said:

    Quote of the day from Kemi Badenoch:

    “For too long, politics has been about winning elections, not planning for the future. I want to change that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3lleu3x57fs26

    Another one for the men in flapping white coats.....
    Why

    It is time for new ideas and policies in response to this changing world
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    TimS said:

    Leon said:

    Roger said:

    It's an ill wind that blows nobody any good and never truer than now. Trump is doing wonders for leaders around the globe. My french neighbour says Macron has never looked so good and though us Remainers have always had a soft spot for our ex governor of the BoE Trump has been the making of him.

    And then there's Starmer.... Maybe not reflected in the polls quite yet but it's pretty clear to most in the UK that he's the man for the moment.

    NARRATOR: Keir Starmer tweeted this today:

    "Confirmed: Ninja swords will be banned by this summer.

    When we promise action we take it."

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1905238067843150186
    I didn’t know they were freely sold and in general circulation at the moment. Every day a school day.
    I like the way he hasn't even banned them, yet. They will be banned "by the summer"

    It's not just an insane and embarrassing piece of pointless gesture politics - causing him and us to be globally mocked - it's all that and he can't even do it yet
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,903
    Leon said:

    Remember when Starmer was going to SMASH THE GANGS to stop the small boat people?

    "357 migrants in six boats were brought to Dover yesterday."

    https://x.com/SimonJonesNews/status/1905255386283700519

    It's getting worse and worse, and costing us many billions a year, money we simply do not have

    Has Starmer done a fucking thing about it? No, he is incapable

    But he has "banned Ninja swords. Confirmed. Because when we promise action, we take it"

    I don't agree with much Ian Hislop says these days but I certainly understand his agreement that Starmer's dad was indeed a tool maker.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,356

    Kristi Noem does a piece to camera with prisoners in the background to warn people that they risk being deported to El Salvador:

    https://x.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1905054402559299986

    The prison background is on a loop, watch the prisoner near the bottom left while she talks.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,903
    TimS said:

    Leon said:

    Roger said:

    It's an ill wind that blows nobody any good and never truer than now. Trump is doing wonders for leaders around the globe. My french neighbour says Macron has never looked so good and though us Remainers have always had a soft spot for our ex governor of the BoE Trump has been the making of him.

    And then there's Starmer.... Maybe not reflected in the polls quite yet but it's pretty clear to most in the UK that he's the man for the moment.

    NARRATOR: Keir Starmer tweeted this today:

    "Confirmed: Ninja swords will be banned by this summer.

    When we promise action we take it."

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1905238067843150186
    I didn’t know they were freely sold and in general circulation at the moment. Every day a school day.
    There not, and carrying one without a reasonable excuse is already a crime. But hey.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,465

    I fully expect the headline will trigger a barrage of turnips towards me from Ayrshire.

    The turnips are heading towards you from a different part of Ayrshire, @TSE. The SNP’s ratings have improved because Sturgeon is no longer involved in government. Swinney isn’t going to risk that improvement, even if Sturgeon wanted to return.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,465
    Foxy said:

    Quote of the day from Kemi Badenoch:

    “For too long, politics has been about winning elections, not planning for the future. I want to change that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3lleu3x57fs26

    She is changing it by not winning elections, and by not planning for future. Double whammy!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,408
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    DavidL said:

    Leon said:

    Remember when Starmer was going to SMASH THE GANGS to stop the small boat people?

    "357 migrants in six boats were brought to Dover yesterday."

    https://x.com/SimonJonesNews/status/1905255386283700519

    It's getting worse and worse, and costing us many billions a year, money we simply do not have

    Has Starmer done a fucking thing about it? No, he is incapable

    But he has "banned Ninja swords. Confirmed. Because when we promise action, we take it"

    I don't agree with much Ian Hislop says these days but I certainly understand his agreement that Starmer's dad was indeed a tool maker.
    This is a genuinely catastrophic government. It's like every single one of them is over-promoted from their proper level of running a local library. They make Truss look sane and serious. They make Kwarteng look like Einstein and Sunak look like Churchill. Banning fucking ninja swords like that will solve knife crime, and then boasting about it in a macho way on Twitter coz they think it looks good? God help us

    Meanwhile, the economy is fucked, the boat crisis worsens, taxes rise to a new record, he's slashing welfare, growth has disappeared, our cities moulder from the heart, we're giving eighteen billion pounds to Mauritius to take British territory for no reason, and alcoholic foreign pedophile rapists are being saved from deportation because they might not get nice treatment abroad
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,465
    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Leon said:

    Remember when Starmer was going to SMASH THE GANGS to stop the small boat people?

    "357 migrants in six boats were brought to Dover yesterday."

    https://x.com/SimonJonesNews/status/1905255386283700519

    It's getting worse and worse, and costing us many billions a year, money we simply do not have

    Has Starmer done a fucking thing about it? No, he is incapable

    But he has "banned Ninja swords. Confirmed. Because when we promise action, we take it"

    I don't agree with much Ian Hislop says these days but I certainly understand his agreement that Starmer's dad was indeed a tool maker.
    This is a genuinely catastrophic government. It's like every single one of them is over-promoted from their proper level of running a local library. They make Truss look sane and serious. They make Kwarteng look like Einstein and Sunak look like Churchill. Banning fucking ninja swords like that will solve knife crime, and then boasting about it in a macho way on Twitter coz they think it looks good? God help us

    Meanwhile, the economy is fucked, the boat crisis worsens, taxes rise to a new record, he's slashing welfare, growth has disappeared, our cities moulder from the heart, we're giving eighteen billion pounds to Mauritius to take British territory for no reason, and alcoholic foreign pedophile rapists are being saved from deportation because they might not get nice treatment abroad
    How’s your new job as Editor of the Daily Express going? Is this a preview of tomorrow’s editorial?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,237
    Leon said:

    Roger said:

    It's an ill wind that blows nobody any good and never truer than now. Trump is doing wonders for leaders around the globe. My french neighbour says Macron has never looked so good and though us Remainers have always had a soft spot for our ex governor of the BoE Trump has been the making of him.

    And then there's Starmer.... Maybe not reflected in the polls quite yet but it's pretty clear to most in the UK that he's the man for the moment.

    NARRATOR: Keir Starmer tweeted this today:

    "Confirmed: Ninja swords will be banned by this summer.

    When we promise action we take it."

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1905238067843150186
    I'm not sure I get the joke. Isn't this what politicians do? At least he didn't announce it in full Samurai costume as Boris would have done
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,130
    Leon said:

    Foxy said:

    On a similar poll, Fun Dad Ed Davey is the most popular party leader nationally.

    Around a quarter (24%) hold a favourable view of Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey, while 30% are unfavourable (net -6).

    Best net favourability score compared to Starmer (-17), Farage (-20), Badenoch (-26) and Reeves (-33)!

    https://bsky.app/profile/ipsosintheuk.bsky.social/post/3lle3cg46ks2t

    I really really doubt that more than 5% of the country could identify Ed Davey from a photo as "the leader of the Lib Dems"

    So that 24% favourable is 1 in 4, of 5 people in every hundred, which basically means the Davey family and possibly his Waitrose delivery guy, maybe
    Depends if he's in a wetsuit or not, perhaps?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,770
    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Leon said:

    Remember when Starmer was going to SMASH THE GANGS to stop the small boat people?

    "357 migrants in six boats were brought to Dover yesterday."

    https://x.com/SimonJonesNews/status/1905255386283700519

    It's getting worse and worse, and costing us many billions a year, money we simply do not have

    Has Starmer done a fucking thing about it? No, he is incapable

    But he has "banned Ninja swords. Confirmed. Because when we promise action, we take it"

    I don't agree with much Ian Hislop says these days but I certainly understand his agreement that Starmer's dad was indeed a tool maker.
    This is a genuinely catastrophic government. It's like every single one of them is over-promoted from their proper level of running a local library. They make Truss look sane and serious. They make Kwarteng look like Einstein and Sunak look like Churchill. Banning fucking ninja swords like that will solve knife crime, and then boasting about it in a macho way on Twitter coz they think it looks good? God help us

    Meanwhile, the economy is fucked, the boat crisis worsens, taxes rise to a new record, he's slashing welfare, growth has disappeared, our cities moulder from the heart, we're giving eighteen billion pounds to Mauritius to take British territory for no reason, and alcoholic foreign pedophile rapists are being saved from deportation because they might not get nice treatment abroad
    Sooooo cute.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,199
    Leon said:

    Jesus. Starmer is being BRUTALLY mocked for the Ninja Swords Tweet

    Absolute shredding on social media. He is Pure Embarrassment, he makes me ashamed

    Perhaps he could link today's two themes, by rounding up the UK's Ninja Swords - and arming Ukraine with them..
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Leon said:

    Remember when Starmer was going to SMASH THE GANGS to stop the small boat people?

    "357 migrants in six boats were brought to Dover yesterday."

    https://x.com/SimonJonesNews/status/1905255386283700519

    It's getting worse and worse, and costing us many billions a year, money we simply do not have

    Has Starmer done a fucking thing about it? No, he is incapable

    But he has "banned Ninja swords. Confirmed. Because when we promise action, we take it"

    I don't agree with much Ian Hislop says these days but I certainly understand his agreement that Starmer's dad was indeed a tool maker.
    This is a genuinely catastrophic government. It's like every single one of them is over-promoted from their proper level of running a local library. They make Truss look sane and serious. They make Kwarteng look like Einstein and Sunak look like Churchill. Banning fucking ninja swords like that will solve knife crime, and then boasting about it in a macho way on Twitter coz they think it looks good? God help us

    Meanwhile, the economy is fucked, the boat crisis worsens, taxes rise to a new record, he's slashing welfare, growth has disappeared, our cities moulder from the heart, we're giving eighteen billion pounds to Mauritius to take British territory for no reason, and alcoholic foreign pedophile rapists are being saved from deportation because they might not get nice treatment abroad
    Sooooo cute.
    It's all in the rhythm, darling
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,998
    Leon said:

    Roger said:

    It's an ill wind that blows nobody any good and never truer than now. Trump is doing wonders for leaders around the globe. My french neighbour says Macron has never looked so good and though us Remainers have always had a soft spot for our ex governor of the BoE Trump has been the making of him.

    And then there's Starmer.... Maybe not reflected in the polls quite yet but it's pretty clear to most in the UK that he's the man for the moment.

    NARRATOR: Keir Starmer tweeted this today:

    "Confirmed: Ninja swords will be banned by this summer.

    When we promise action we take it."

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1905238067843150186
    It was in the Labour Manifesto.



    What's your problem with this?
    It's seems to have triggered you. Why?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 29,797
    edited March 27
    From the linked government document:-


    So it turns out swords are like dogs, and that efforts to ban them will be snowed under by questions of definition, and only genuine collectors will be affected because it is machetes and kitchen knives that are used in 97 per cent of murders.

    Adolescence, Mr Bates vs the Post Office, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles – can our politicians do nothing until they've seen a problem on telly?
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,376
    Foxy said:

    On a similar poll, Fun Dad Ed Davey is the most popular party leader nationally.

    Around a quarter (24%) hold a favourable view of Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey, while 30% are unfavourable (net -6).

    Best net favourability score compared to Starmer (-17), Farage (-20), Badenoch (-26) and Reeves (-33)!

    https://bsky.app/profile/ipsosintheuk.bsky.social/post/3lle3cg46ks2t

    Badenoch's figures are truly awful for the Leader of the Opposition.

    I think the take from that is fewer dislike Davey for whatever reason. The other significant take is Nigel Farage is disliked almost as much as Rachel Reeves.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,237

    Roger said:

    Foxy said:

    Quote of the day from Kemi Badenoch:

    “For too long, politics has been about winning elections, not planning for the future. I want to change that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3lleu3x57fs26

    Another one for the men in flapping white coats.....
    Why

    It is time for new ideas and policies in response to this changing world
    It reminded me of Blair saying 'this is no time for soundbites...........I feel the hand of history on my shoulder'
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,729
    edited March 27
    Roger said:

    Leon said:

    Roger said:

    It's an ill wind that blows nobody any good and never truer than now. Trump is doing wonders for leaders around the globe. My french neighbour says Macron has never looked so good and though us Remainers have always had a soft spot for our ex governor of the BoE Trump has been the making of him.

    And then there's Starmer.... Maybe not reflected in the polls quite yet but it's pretty clear to most in the UK that he's the man for the moment.

    NARRATOR: Keir Starmer tweeted this today:

    "Confirmed: Ninja swords will be banned by this summer.

    When we promise action we take it."

    https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1905238067843150186
    I'm not sure I get the joke. Isn't this what politicians do? At least he didn't announce it in full Samurai costume as Boris would have done
    Quite right too. British sword wielding maniacs should use Claymores like the good Lord intended.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,408

    From the linked government document:-


    So it turns out swords are like dogs, and that efforts to ban them will be snowed under by questions of definition, and only genuine collectors will be affected because it is machetes and kitchen knives that are used in 97 per cent of murders.

    Adolescence, Mr Bates vs the Post Office, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles – can our politicians do nothing until they've seen a problem on telly?
    They should send out a government-issued protractor to every home so that there's no excuse.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,770
    Putin: Trump’s plan to seize Greenland is serious, has deep historical roots, and it is evident that the U.S. will pursue it systematically. Adds that it’s a bilateral issue between the U.S. and Denmark and has no bearing on Russia.
    https://x.com/yarotrof/status/1905307078371278999
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,729
    More of a coalition. I see Leicesters own Shockhat Adam is first on the list. All the Green MPs too I think.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,375
    Ugh.

    Harry Redknapp called Thomas Tuchel a German spy and appeared to perform a Nazi salute during a discussion about the England head coach at a charity event.

    Redknapp, the former Portsmouth, Tottenham and West Ham manager, was speaking in front of an audience at a London venue last week. The Guardian has seen footage of the 78-year-old’s remarks about Tuchel, which came when he was asked whether England were right to appoint the German.

    “I don’t know,” Redknapp said before making comments designed to amuse his audience. “I’ll be honest with you, I think he’s a German spy. I’m telling you. Seriously, he’s been sent over to fuck us up. He has. I’m telling ya, he’s like Lord Haw Haw in the war – ‘We have your best soldiers captured’ and all that.”


    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/mar/27/harry-redknapp-appears-to-make-nazi-salute-after-calling-thomas-tuchel-german-spy
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,376

    Roger said:

    Foxy said:

    Quote of the day from Kemi Badenoch:

    “For too long, politics has been about winning elections, not planning for the future. I want to change that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3lleu3x57fs26

    Another one for the men in flapping white coats.....
    Why

    It is time for new ideas and policies in response to this changing world
    There's a serious side to this - Badenoch is basically saying policy making and planning for the future is more important than being in Government and indeed there's no point being in Government if you have no ideas.

    The corollary is if another party in Government implements ideas which a Conservative Party led by Badenoch could support they will support them rather than just be in opposition for the sake of opposing.

    It is good (and inevitable) after such a massive defeat the Conservatives are taking time to think about the future but that shouldn't be a conversation of Conservatives led by Conservatives. Perhaps a less partisan approach is required.

    I've not actually heard what Stride would do if he were in Reeves's position - how would he seek to restore the public finances, how would he fund expanaded defence commitments and remember he is on record as opposing cuts to the winter fuel allowance as well as the other measures implemented by the Government since July last year? Would, for example, a future Conservative Government remain committed to the Triple Lock?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,926
    Foxy said:

    More of a coalition. I see Leicesters own Shockhat Adam is first on the list. All the Green MPs too I think.
    Everyone who has been, or is about to be, thrown out of the Labour Party, plus the Green Party MPs and the former LibDem MP for Bradford.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,516
    Surprised to see PB in favour of joe public being able to carry Ninja swords.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,770
    It seems that the MAGA spin attempts have failed.
    Though & prayers for william.

    https://www.axios.com/2025/03/27/trump-signal-group-chat-yemen-strike-poll
    Three out of four Americans — including 60% of Republicans — say the Trump administration's use of a Signal group chat to discuss military strikes is a serious problem, according to the first poll out on the national security breach...
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,775
    stodge said:

    Roger said:

    Foxy said:

    Quote of the day from Kemi Badenoch:

    “For too long, politics has been about winning elections, not planning for the future. I want to change that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3lleu3x57fs26

    Another one for the men in flapping white coats.....
    Why

    It is time for new ideas and policies in response to this changing world
    There's a serious side to this - Badenoch is basically saying policy making and planning for the future is more important than being in Government and indeed there's no point being in Government if you have no ideas.

    The corollary is if another party in Government implements ideas which a Conservative Party led by Badenoch could support they will support them rather than just be in opposition for the sake of opposing.

    It is good (and inevitable) after such a massive defeat the Conservatives are taking time to think about the future but that shouldn't be a conversation of Conservatives led by Conservatives. Perhaps a less partisan approach is required.

    I've not actually heard what Stride would do if he were in Reeves's position - how would he seek to restore the public finances, how would he fund expanaded defence commitments and remember he is on record as opposing cuts to the winter fuel allowance as well as the other measures implemented by the Government since July last year? Would, for example, a future Conservative Government remain committed to the Triple Lock?
    A possible example of such a policy.

    A compact, to be agreed by all parties, that over the next decade (enough time?) the number of places for training nurse, doctors, medical technicians etc shall be increased each year, until there are sufficient training places (end to end) for 100%+ of the NHS requirements for staff.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,915

    Roger said:

    Foxy said:

    Quote of the day from Kemi Badenoch:

    “For too long, politics has been about winning elections, not planning for the future. I want to change that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3lleu3x57fs26

    Another one for the men in flapping white coats.....
    Why

    It is time for new ideas and policies in response to this changing world
    My (entirely sincere) complaint about Ms Badenoch is that she believes in the National Conservatism gubbins, which ironically is internationalist and untethered from the country, and came back from the latest jolly (the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship) claiming that Western Civilisation is valuable and we must save it. We have no ability whatsoever to do this, and even if we did in the past couple of weeks Trump has turned the USA from the ally-of-last-resort to the drug dealing neighbour who hits his wife. We can fix ourselves and should do so, not be pretendy cosplay wannabe Americans.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,869
    stodge said:

    Roger said:

    Foxy said:

    Quote of the day from Kemi Badenoch:

    “For too long, politics has been about winning elections, not planning for the future. I want to change that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3lleu3x57fs26

    Another one for the men in flapping white coats.....
    Why

    It is time for new ideas and policies in response to this changing world
    There's a serious side to this - Badenoch is basically saying policy making and planning for the future is more important than being in Government and indeed there's no point being in Government if you have no ideas.

    The corollary is if another party in Government implements ideas which a Conservative Party led by Badenoch could support they will support them rather than just be in opposition for the sake of opposing.

    It is good (and inevitable) after such a massive defeat the Conservatives are taking time to think about the future but that shouldn't be a conversation of Conservatives led by Conservatives. Perhaps a less partisan approach is required.

    I've not actually heard what Stride would do if he were in Reeves's position - how would he seek to restore the public finances, how would he fund expanaded defence commitments and remember he is on record as opposing cuts to the winter fuel allowance as well as the other measures implemented by the Government since July last year? Would, for example, a future Conservative Government remain committed to the Triple Lock?
    I expect the triple lock will go and of course the conservatives have always been in favour of using foreign aid for defence

    Stride would not have put up NI to business nor agreed huge public sector pay rises without improvement in productivity

    However, as I said the conservatives need a completely new and unique offer and I am content they take time to develop policies for 2028 and beyond

    Certainly 2028 will be unrecognizable from today especially after 4 years of Trump
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,729
    edited March 27
    kinabalu said:

    Surprised to see PB in favour of joe public being able to carry Ninja swords.

    It's already illegal to carry a blade over 3 inches without legitimate cause.

    What Ninjas do in the comfort of their own home is their own business.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,903
    Leon said:

    DavidL said:

    Leon said:

    Remember when Starmer was going to SMASH THE GANGS to stop the small boat people?

    "357 migrants in six boats were brought to Dover yesterday."

    https://x.com/SimonJonesNews/status/1905255386283700519

    It's getting worse and worse, and costing us many billions a year, money we simply do not have

    Has Starmer done a fucking thing about it? No, he is incapable

    But he has "banned Ninja swords. Confirmed. Because when we promise action, we take it"

    I don't agree with much Ian Hislop says these days but I certainly understand his agreement that Starmer's dad was indeed a tool maker.
    This is a genuinely catastrophic government. It's like every single one of them is over-promoted from their proper level of running a local library. They make Truss look sane and serious. They make Kwarteng look like Einstein and Sunak look like Churchill. Banning fucking ninja swords like that will solve knife crime, and then boasting about it in a macho way on Twitter coz they think it looks good? God help us

    Meanwhile, the economy is fucked, the boat crisis worsens, taxes rise to a new record, he's slashing welfare, growth has disappeared, our cities moulder from the heart, we're giving eighteen billion pounds to Mauritius to take British territory for no reason, and alcoholic foreign pedophile rapists are being saved from deportation because they might not get nice treatment abroad
    Yeah, but apart from that...isn't it going well.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,516
    Nigelb said:

    Putin: Trump’s plan to seize Greenland is serious, has deep historical roots, and it is evident that the U.S. will pursue it systematically. Adds that it’s a bilateral issue between the U.S. and Denmark and has no bearing on Russia.
    https://x.com/yarotrof/status/1905307078371278999

    "deep historical roots" ... "none of our business"

    The cunning subtlety of the man. Not.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,376

    stodge said:

    Roger said:

    Foxy said:

    Quote of the day from Kemi Badenoch:

    “For too long, politics has been about winning elections, not planning for the future. I want to change that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3lleu3x57fs26

    Another one for the men in flapping white coats.....
    Why

    It is time for new ideas and policies in response to this changing world
    There's a serious side to this - Badenoch is basically saying policy making and planning for the future is more important than being in Government and indeed there's no point being in Government if you have no ideas.

    The corollary is if another party in Government implements ideas which a Conservative Party led by Badenoch could support they will support them rather than just be in opposition for the sake of opposing.

    It is good (and inevitable) after such a massive defeat the Conservatives are taking time to think about the future but that shouldn't be a conversation of Conservatives led by Conservatives. Perhaps a less partisan approach is required.

    I've not actually heard what Stride would do if he were in Reeves's position - how would he seek to restore the public finances, how would he fund expanaded defence commitments and remember he is on record as opposing cuts to the winter fuel allowance as well as the other measures implemented by the Government since July last year? Would, for example, a future Conservative Government remain committed to the Triple Lock?
    A possible example of such a policy.

    A compact, to be agreed by all parties, that over the next decade (enough time?) the number of places for training nurse, doctors, medical technicians etc shall be increased each year, until there are sufficient training places (end to end) for 100%+ of the NHS requirements for staff.
    A very good example and there are others - moving to a more consensual and less adversarial approach might do the Conservatives a lot of good in time but I just don't know if Badenoch is the leader to achieve that. @HYUFD is probably right it would be easier with Tom Tugendhat in charge.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,356
    I see Leanne Mohamed, who very nearly beat Wes to represent the North Ilford Ghetto, is on the list.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,130

    Ugh.

    Harry Redknapp called Thomas Tuchel a German spy and appeared to perform a Nazi salute during a discussion about the England head coach at a charity event.

    Redknapp, the former Portsmouth, Tottenham and West Ham manager, was speaking in front of an audience at a London venue last week. The Guardian has seen footage of the 78-year-old’s remarks about Tuchel, which came when he was asked whether England were right to appoint the German.

    “I don’t know,” Redknapp said before making comments designed to amuse his audience. “I’ll be honest with you, I think he’s a German spy. I’m telling you. Seriously, he’s been sent over to fuck us up. He has. I’m telling ya, he’s like Lord Haw Haw in the war – ‘We have your best soldiers captured’ and all that.”


    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/mar/27/harry-redknapp-appears-to-make-nazi-salute-after-calling-thomas-tuchel-german-spy

    It was his left arm.

    I don't know what that would be.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 29,797

    Ugh.

    Harry Redknapp called Thomas Tuchel a German spy and appeared to perform a Nazi salute during a discussion about the England head coach at a charity event.

    Redknapp, the former Portsmouth, Tottenham and West Ham manager, was speaking in front of an audience at a London venue last week. The Guardian has seen footage of the 78-year-old’s remarks about Tuchel, which came when he was asked whether England were right to appoint the German.

    “I don’t know,” Redknapp said before making comments designed to amuse his audience. “I’ll be honest with you, I think he’s a German spy. I’m telling you. Seriously, he’s been sent over to fuck us up. He has. I’m telling ya, he’s like Lord Haw Haw in the war – ‘We have your best soldiers captured’ and all that.”


    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/mar/27/harry-redknapp-appears-to-make-nazi-salute-after-calling-thomas-tuchel-german-spy

    Are ‘comments designed to amuse his audience’ what we used to call ‘jokes’ perchance?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,130
    viewcode said:

    Roger said:

    Foxy said:

    Quote of the day from Kemi Badenoch:

    “For too long, politics has been about winning elections, not planning for the future. I want to change that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3lleu3x57fs26

    Another one for the men in flapping white coats.....
    Why

    It is time for new ideas and policies in response to this changing world
    My (entirely sincere) complaint about Ms Badenoch is that she believes in the National Conservatism gubbins, which ironically is internationalist and untethered from the country, and came back from the latest jolly (the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship) claiming that Western Civilisation is valuable and we must save it. We have no ability whatsoever to do this, and even if we did in the past couple of weeks Trump has turned the USA from the ally-of-last-resort to the drug dealing neighbour who hits his wife. We can fix ourselves and should do so, not be pretendy cosplay wannabe Americans.
    I see that as part of the search for a life raft.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,356
    kinabalu said:

    Nigelb said:

    Putin: Trump’s plan to seize Greenland is serious, has deep historical roots, and it is evident that the U.S. will pursue it systematically. Adds that it’s a bilateral issue between the U.S. and Denmark and has no bearing on Russia.
    https://x.com/yarotrof/status/1905307078371278999

    "deep historical roots" ... "none of our business"

    The cunning subtlety of the man. Not.
    Trump's cunning plan: let Putin keep east Ukraine so Don can get Greenland?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,915
    kinabalu said:

    Surprised to see PB in favour of joe public being able to carry Ninja swords.

    I'm waiting for lightsabers

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uG6G--aEARk
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,130
    edited March 27
    Foxy said:

    kinabalu said:

    Surprised to see PB in favour of joe public being able to carry Ninja swords.

    It's already illegal to carry a blade over 3 inches without legitimate cause.

    What Ninjas do in the comfort of their own home is their own business.
    I haven't rad it all, but is this not about these being added to the "possession banned" list?

    It looks as if you can keep it if you grind the point flat.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,915
    MattW said:

    viewcode said:

    Roger said:

    Foxy said:

    Quote of the day from Kemi Badenoch:

    “For too long, politics has been about winning elections, not planning for the future. I want to change that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3lleu3x57fs26

    Another one for the men in flapping white coats.....
    Why

    It is time for new ideas and policies in response to this changing world
    My (entirely sincere) complaint about Ms Badenoch is that she believes in the National Conservatism gubbins, which ironically is internationalist and untethered from the country, and came back from the latest jolly (the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship) claiming that Western Civilisation is valuable and we must save it. We have no ability whatsoever to do this, and even if we did in the past couple of weeks Trump has turned the USA from the ally-of-last-resort to the drug dealing neighbour who hits his wife. We can fix ourselves and should do so, not be pretendy cosplay wannabe Americans.
    I see that as part of the search for a life raft.
    A politician wanting a life raft from their country should not be elected.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,516
    Foxy said:

    kinabalu said:

    Surprised to see PB in favour of joe public being able to carry Ninja swords.

    It's already illegal to carry a blade over 3 inches without legitimate cause.

    What Ninjas do in the comfort of their own home is their own business.
    Well within reason.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,130
    Nigelb said:

    Putin: Trump’s plan to seize Greenland is serious, has deep historical roots, and it is evident that the U.S. will pursue it systematically. Adds that it’s a bilateral issue between the U.S. and Denmark and has no bearing on Russia.
    https://x.com/yarotrof/status/1905307078371278999

    The new EATO (somewhat ish):


  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,770
    MattW said:

    Ugh.

    Harry Redknapp called Thomas Tuchel a German spy and appeared to perform a Nazi salute during a discussion about the England head coach at a charity event.

    Redknapp, the former Portsmouth, Tottenham and West Ham manager, was speaking in front of an audience at a London venue last week. The Guardian has seen footage of the 78-year-old’s remarks about Tuchel, which came when he was asked whether England were right to appoint the German.

    “I don’t know,” Redknapp said before making comments designed to amuse his audience. “I’ll be honest with you, I think he’s a German spy. I’m telling you. Seriously, he’s been sent over to fuck us up. He has. I’m telling ya, he’s like Lord Haw Haw in the war – ‘We have your best soldiers captured’ and all that.”


    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/mar/27/harry-redknapp-appears-to-make-nazi-salute-after-calling-thomas-tuchel-german-spy

    It was his left arm.

    I don't know what that would be.
    Sinister.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,130
    Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    Ugh.

    Harry Redknapp called Thomas Tuchel a German spy and appeared to perform a Nazi salute during a discussion about the England head coach at a charity event.

    Redknapp, the former Portsmouth, Tottenham and West Ham manager, was speaking in front of an audience at a London venue last week. The Guardian has seen footage of the 78-year-old’s remarks about Tuchel, which came when he was asked whether England were right to appoint the German.

    “I don’t know,” Redknapp said before making comments designed to amuse his audience. “I’ll be honest with you, I think he’s a German spy. I’m telling you. Seriously, he’s been sent over to fuck us up. He has. I’m telling ya, he’s like Lord Haw Haw in the war – ‘We have your best soldiers captured’ and all that.”


    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/mar/27/harry-redknapp-appears-to-make-nazi-salute-after-calling-thomas-tuchel-german-spy

    It was his left arm.

    I don't know what that would be.
    Sinister.
    Dextrous comment.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,130
    viewcode said:

    MattW said:

    viewcode said:

    Roger said:

    Foxy said:

    Quote of the day from Kemi Badenoch:

    “For too long, politics has been about winning elections, not planning for the future. I want to change that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3lleu3x57fs26

    Another one for the men in flapping white coats.....
    Why

    It is time for new ideas and policies in response to this changing world
    My (entirely sincere) complaint about Ms Badenoch is that she believes in the National Conservatism gubbins, which ironically is internationalist and untethered from the country, and came back from the latest jolly (the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship) claiming that Western Civilisation is valuable and we must save it. We have no ability whatsoever to do this, and even if we did in the past couple of weeks Trump has turned the USA from the ally-of-last-resort to the drug dealing neighbour who hits his wife. We can fix ourselves and should do so, not be pretendy cosplay wannabe Americans.
    I see that as part of the search for a life raft.
    A politician wanting a life raft from their country should not be elected.
    If Jenrick would piss off to France Profonde, I'd buy him one myself.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,775
    stodge said:

    stodge said:

    Roger said:

    Foxy said:

    Quote of the day from Kemi Badenoch:

    “For too long, politics has been about winning elections, not planning for the future. I want to change that.”

    https://bsky.app/profile/pickardje.bsky.social/post/3lleu3x57fs26

    Another one for the men in flapping white coats.....
    Why

    It is time for new ideas and policies in response to this changing world
    There's a serious side to this - Badenoch is basically saying policy making and planning for the future is more important than being in Government and indeed there's no point being in Government if you have no ideas.

    The corollary is if another party in Government implements ideas which a Conservative Party led by Badenoch could support they will support them rather than just be in opposition for the sake of opposing.

    It is good (and inevitable) after such a massive defeat the Conservatives are taking time to think about the future but that shouldn't be a conversation of Conservatives led by Conservatives. Perhaps a less partisan approach is required.

    I've not actually heard what Stride would do if he were in Reeves's position - how would he seek to restore the public finances, how would he fund expanaded defence commitments and remember he is on record as opposing cuts to the winter fuel allowance as well as the other measures implemented by the Government since July last year? Would, for example, a future Conservative Government remain committed to the Triple Lock?
    A possible example of such a policy.

    A compact, to be agreed by all parties, that over the next decade (enough time?) the number of places for training nurse, doctors, medical technicians etc shall be increased each year, until there are sufficient training places (end to end) for 100%+ of the NHS requirements for staff.
    A very good example and there are others - moving to a more consensual and less adversarial approach might do the Conservatives a lot of good in time but I just don't know if Badenoch is the leader to achieve that. @HYUFD is probably right it would be easier with Tom Tugendhat in charge.
    Net Zero….
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,752
    Nothing like having a fist as part of your logo, looks a bit retro commie. Either that or it is suggesting that Rachel from Accounts has fisted the economy.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,770
    MattW said:

    Nigelb said:

    Putin: Trump’s plan to seize Greenland is serious, has deep historical roots, and it is evident that the U.S. will pursue it systematically. Adds that it’s a bilateral issue between the U.S. and Denmark and has no bearing on Russia.
    https://x.com/yarotrof/status/1905307078371278999

    The new EATO (somewhat ish):


    Next up, a Tesla Ad ?

    Putin:

    "Already then [in the 60s of the 19th century], the American administration considered the possibility of annexing Greenland and Iceland, but the idea was not supported by Congress at that time.

    By the way, let me remind you that by 1868, American newspapers were ridiculing the purchase of Alaska: it was called "madness," "icebox," and "the polar bear garden of Andrew Johnson," then the US President. So, the Greenland proposal failed.

    But today, this acquisition - I mean the acquisition of Alaska - is probably viewed very differently in the United States, as is the actions of President Andrew Johnson."..

    https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1905322460855087501

    Even PB's worst historians are more convincing than Putin.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,130

    I see Leanne Mohamed, who very nearly beat Wes to represent the North Ilford Ghetto, is on the list.
    That does not look like a viable coalition to me - Greens are liberal and have a strong brand, and I'm not sure that they could go with the centre of gravity of the Gaza Independents.
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