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Malmesbury said:

Nigelb said:

Scott_xP said:

@jefftimmer

Signalgate and how these incompetent clowns are bollixing our national security has certainly taken the spotlight off how these incompetent clowns are fucking up the economy.

https://x.com/jefftimmer/status/1904888731200336301

So you're saying Leon's psyop theory isn't completely ridiculous ?
LOL

They set themselves on fire to distract from the fact they are falling off a cliff?

Scott_xP said:

@visegrad24
BREAKING:

4 U.S. soldiers have been found dead in Lithuania near the border with Belarus.

They and their tracked vehicle went missing during military exercises

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1904921647993278796

Mexicanpete said:

Scott_xP said:

@visegrad24
BREAKING:

4 U.S. soldiers have been found dead in Lithuania near the border with Belarus.

They and their tracked vehicle went missing during military exercises

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1904921647993278796

Close enough to Kyiv for Trump and Vance to pin it on Zelenskyy.

williamglenn said:

Mexicanpete said:

Scott_xP said:

@visegrad24
BREAKING:

4 U.S. soldiers have been found dead in Lithuania near the border with Belarus.

They and their tracked vehicle went missing during military exercises

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1904921647993278796

Close enough to Kyiv for Trump and Vance to pin it on Zelenskyy.

Their vehicle got stuck in a swamp.

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1904918878863446250

Leon said:

FPT coz I’m genuinely interested in the pb insight


Question. Musk is raising the price of premium plus on X from £30 a month to £47 from next month

Premium plus gets you unlimited access to all X capabilities

That is an enormous increase with no obvious reason why. No pre-announced upgrade. So what’s going on?

Theory?

1. Musk is desperate for cash
2. X is about to make some incredible new functionality available, or X will be offering the worlds first convincing virtual sex etc

What is it? Thoughts?

Leon said:

FPT coz I’m genuinely interested in the pb insight


Question. Musk is raising the price of premium plus on X from £30 a month to £47 from next month

Premium plus gets you unlimited access to all X capabilities

That is an enormous increase with no obvious reason why. No pre-announced upgrade. So what’s going on?

Theory?

1. Musk is desperate for cash
2. X is about to make some incredible new functionality available, or X will be offering the worlds first convincing virtual sex etc

What is it? Thoughts?

Gallowgate said:

People are paying £30 per month for Twitter?

Leon said:

FPT coz I’m genuinely interested in the pb insight


Question. Musk is raising the price of premium plus on X from £30 a month to £47 from next month

Premium plus gets you unlimited access to all X capabilities

That is an enormous increase with no obvious reason why. No pre-announced upgrade. So what’s going on?

Theory?

1. Musk is desperate for cash
2. X is about to make some incredible new functionality available, or X will be offering the worlds first convincing virtual sex etc

What is it? Thoughts?

rcs1000 said:

Leon said:

FPT coz I’m genuinely interested in the pb insight


Question. Musk is raising the price of premium plus on X from £30 a month to £47 from next month

Premium plus gets you unlimited access to all X capabilities

That is an enormous increase with no obvious reason why. No pre-announced upgrade. So what’s going on?

Theory?

1. Musk is desperate for cash
2. X is about to make some incredible new functionality available, or X will be offering the worlds first convincing virtual sex etc

What is it? Thoughts?

It's because there are a relatively small number of complete Muskophiles who will pay whatever he asks.

I don't think it's anything more than classic market segmentation, and he reckons the price elasticity is going to be less than 0.5, so he reckons he'll come out ahead.

Personally, I think the sum is too high... that's rapidly reaching a level where people (even well off people) notice it.

williamglenn said:

Mexicanpete said:

Scott_xP said:

@visegrad24
BREAKING:

4 U.S. soldiers have been found dead in Lithuania near the border with Belarus.

They and their tracked vehicle went missing during military exercises

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1904921647993278796

Close enough to Kyiv for Trump and Vance to pin it on Zelenskyy.

Their vehicle got stuck in a swamp.

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1904918878863446250

Theuniondivvie said:

williamglenn said:

Mexicanpete said:

Scott_xP said:

@visegrad24
BREAKING:

4 U.S. soldiers have been found dead in Lithuania near the border with Belarus.

They and their tracked vehicle went missing during military exercises

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1904921647993278796

Close enough to Kyiv for Trump and Vance to pin it on Zelenskyy.

Their vehicle got stuck in a swamp.

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1904918878863446250

MAGAs already speculating on race/gender/sexuality of soldiers?

Andy_JS said:

Latest poll from Canada

Mainstreet Research

Lib 44%
Con 40%
NDP 7%
BQ 5%
Green 2%
PPC 1%
Others 1%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2025_Canadian_federal_election#National_polls

Leon said:

rcs1000 said:

Leon said:

FPT coz I’m genuinely interested in the pb insight


Question. Musk is raising the price of premium plus on X from £30 a month to £47 from next month

Premium plus gets you unlimited access to all X capabilities

That is an enormous increase with no obvious reason why. No pre-announced upgrade. So what’s going on?

Theory?

1. Musk is desperate for cash
2. X is about to make some incredible new functionality available, or X will be offering the worlds first convincing virtual sex etc

What is it? Thoughts?

It's because there are a relatively small number of complete Muskophiles who will pay whatever he asks.

I don't think it's anything more than classic market segmentation, and he reckons the price elasticity is going to be less than 0.5, so he reckons he'll come out ahead.

Personally, I think the sum is too high... that's rapidly reaching a level where people (even well off people) notice it.

Unless he is launching an incredible new flavour of Grok. Groktastico

Leon said:

rcs1000 said:

Leon said:

FPT coz I’m genuinely interested in the pb insight


Question. Musk is raising the price of premium plus on X from £30 a month to £47 from next month

Premium plus gets you unlimited access to all X capabilities

That is an enormous increase with no obvious reason why. No pre-announced upgrade. So what’s going on?

Theory?

1. Musk is desperate for cash
2. X is about to make some incredible new functionality available, or X will be offering the worlds first convincing virtual sex etc

What is it? Thoughts?

It's because there are a relatively small number of complete Muskophiles who will pay whatever he asks.

I don't think it's anything more than classic market segmentation, and he reckons the price elasticity is going to be less than 0.5, so he reckons he'll come out ahead.

Personally, I think the sum is too high... that's rapidly reaching a level where people (even well off people) notice it.

Unless he is launching an incredible new flavour of Grok. Groktastico

rcs1000 said:

Leon said:

rcs1000 said:

Leon said:

FPT coz I’m genuinely interested in the pb insight


Question. Musk is raising the price of premium plus on X from £30 a month to £47 from next month

Premium plus gets you unlimited access to all X capabilities

That is an enormous increase with no obvious reason why. No pre-announced upgrade. So what’s going on?

Theory?

1. Musk is desperate for cash
2. X is about to make some incredible new functionality available, or X will be offering the worlds first convincing virtual sex etc

What is it? Thoughts?

It's because there are a relatively small number of complete Muskophiles who will pay whatever he asks.

I don't think it's anything more than classic market segmentation, and he reckons the price elasticity is going to be less than 0.5, so he reckons he'll come out ahead.

Personally, I think the sum is too high... that's rapidly reaching a level where people (even well off people) notice it.

Unless he is launching an incredible new flavour of Grok. Groktastico

The latest version of Grok is excellent (albeit I see yesterday's release of the new DeepSeek just pipped it in the rankings), but in that scenario wouldn't you say "here's the new Grok, it's amazing and it's [x] for access"?

Scott_xP said:

@visegrad24
BREAKING:

4 U.S. soldiers have been found dead in Lithuania near the border with Belarus.

They and their tracked vehicle went missing during military exercises

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1904921647993278796

MattW said:

Leon said:

FPT coz I’m genuinely interested in the pb insight


Question. Musk is raising the price of premium plus on X from £30 a month to £47 from next month

Premium plus gets you unlimited access to all X capabilities

That is an enormous increase with no obvious reason why. No pre-announced upgrade. So what’s going on?

Theory?

1. Musk is desperate for cash
2. X is about to make some incredible new functionality available, or X will be offering the worlds first convincing virtual sex etc

What is it? Thoughts?

Isn't premium plus a type of Pizza Hut Pizza?

I'd suggest he's trying to be Apple.

MattW said:

Scott_xP said:

@visegrad24
BREAKING:

4 U.S. soldiers have been found dead in Lithuania near the border with Belarus.

They and their tracked vehicle went missing during military exercises

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1904921647993278796

Looking like an excuse that Chump has been looking for to reduce US forces in Europe, or withdraw them from frontline states ...

williamglenn said:

Mexicanpete said:

Scott_xP said:

@visegrad24
BREAKING:

4 U.S. soldiers have been found dead in Lithuania near the border with Belarus.

They and their tracked vehicle went missing during military exercises

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1904921647993278796

Close enough to Kyiv for Trump and Vance to pin it on Zelenskyy.

Their vehicle got stuck in a swamp.

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1904918878863446250

Leon said:

rcs1000 said:

Leon said:

FPT coz I’m genuinely interested in the pb insight


Question. Musk is raising the price of premium plus on X from £30 a month to £47 from next month

Premium plus gets you unlimited access to all X capabilities

That is an enormous increase with no obvious reason why. No pre-announced upgrade. So what’s going on?

Theory?

1. Musk is desperate for cash
2. X is about to make some incredible new functionality available, or X will be offering the worlds first convincing virtual sex etc

What is it? Thoughts?

It's because there are a relatively small number of complete Muskophiles who will pay whatever he asks.

I don't think it's anything more than classic market segmentation, and he reckons the price elasticity is going to be less than 0.5, so he reckons he'll come out ahead.

Personally, I think the sum is too high... that's rapidly reaching a level where people (even well off people) notice it.

Unless he is launching an incredible new flavour of Grok. Groktastico

nico67 said:

Leon said:

JosiasJessop said:

Leon said:

Government and judiciary still doing its best to get Civil War 2.0 going

"Migrant paedophile who attacked teenage girl allowed to stay in Britain as he would face 'inhuman treatment' in Pakistan because he's an 'alcoholic'"

https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1904801146197209229

Basically the courts are saying that it's better that this rapist alcoholic Pakistani assaults British girls, rather than Pakistani girls back home, because..... what? Can someone tell me?

GB News is saying that. There's a good chance that they're 'misinterpreting' what the court actually said.

It's true

Guido:

"In yet another ludicrous display of a left-wing judge thwarting the deportation of foreign criminals under the ECHR, a Pakistani paedophile, deemed a “danger to the community,” was allowed to stay in the UK last year…because he’s an alcoholic.

The criminal, who’s been granted anonymity, came to the UK in 2010, was jailed in June 2020 for assaulting emergency workers while “heavily intoxicated,” and was jailed again in December 2022 for sexually abusing a girl under 13. At a June 2024 First-tier Tribunal, Judge Leanne Turner ruled that deporting him would breach European human rights law. Her reasoning? He could be persecuted in Pakistan as an alcoholic because alcohol is illegal over there. The judge ruled:

“Sufficient evidence to show the lower standard, that the appellant would face inhuman or degrading treatment on return to Pakistan as a result of a highly likely criminal prosecution and imprisonment for his uncontrollable alcohol consumption. As such, returning to Pakistan would breach the U.K.’s obligations under Article 3 of the ECHR.”

Details of the case were published on Monday"

https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/ui-2024-003437

The government could act to issue more guidance on the interpretation of the ECHR by judges which seems to be more the issue . And equally and might be unpalatable to some is that rights sometimes help those who we think don’t deserve that protection . At the same time they do protect those we think do deserve that. The right wing argument is to effectively flush away rights for everyone .

Leon said:

nico67 said:

Leon said:

JosiasJessop said:

Leon said:

Government and judiciary still doing its best to get Civil War 2.0 going

"Migrant paedophile who attacked teenage girl allowed to stay in Britain as he would face 'inhuman treatment' in Pakistan because he's an 'alcoholic'"

https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1904801146197209229

Basically the courts are saying that it's better that this rapist alcoholic Pakistani assaults British girls, rather than Pakistani girls back home, because..... what? Can someone tell me?

GB News is saying that. There's a good chance that they're 'misinterpreting' what the court actually said.

It's true

Guido:

"In yet another ludicrous display of a left-wing judge thwarting the deportation of foreign criminals under the ECHR, a Pakistani paedophile, deemed a “danger to the community,” was allowed to stay in the UK last year…because he’s an alcoholic.

The criminal, who’s been granted anonymity, came to the UK in 2010, was jailed in June 2020 for assaulting emergency workers while “heavily intoxicated,” and was jailed again in December 2022 for sexually abusing a girl under 13. At a June 2024 First-tier Tribunal, Judge Leanne Turner ruled that deporting him would breach European human rights law. Her reasoning? He could be persecuted in Pakistan as an alcoholic because alcohol is illegal over there. The judge ruled:

“Sufficient evidence to show the lower standard, that the appellant would face inhuman or degrading treatment on return to Pakistan as a result of a highly likely criminal prosecution and imprisonment for his uncontrollable alcohol consumption. As such, returning to Pakistan would breach the U.K.’s obligations under Article 3 of the ECHR.”

Details of the case were published on Monday"

https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/ui-2024-003437

The government could act to issue more guidance on the interpretation of the ECHR by judges which seems to be more the issue . And equally and might be unpalatable to some is that rights sometimes help those who we think don’t deserve that protection . At the same time they do protect those we think do deserve that. The right wing argument is to effectively flush away rights for everyone .

We are inevitably going to leave the ECHR, it will either happen slowly with Labour reluctantly loosening the court's grip on our laws, or it will happen with a bang under the next government, and it will be total

Every one of these insane judgements adds major fuel to an underground fire, ready to break out

TridentSubCommander said:

Test

Sean_F said:

Leon said:

nico67 said:

Leon said:

nico67 said:

Leon said:

JosiasJessop said:

Leon said:

Government and judiciary still doing its best to get Civil War 2.0 going

"Migrant paedophile who attacked teenage girl allowed to stay in Britain as he would face 'inhuman treatment' in Pakistan because he's an 'alcoholic'"

https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1904801146197209229

Basically the courts are saying that it's better that this rapist alcoholic Pakistani assaults British girls, rather than Pakistani girls back home, because..... what? Can someone tell me?

GB News is saying that. There's a good chance that they're 'misinterpreting' what the court actually said.

It's true

Guido:

"In yet another ludicrous display of a left-wing judge thwarting the deportation of foreign criminals under the ECHR, a Pakistani paedophile, deemed a “danger to the community,” was allowed to stay in the UK last year…because he’s an alcoholic.

The criminal, who’s been granted anonymity, came to the UK in 2010, was jailed in June 2020 for assaulting emergency workers while “heavily intoxicated,” and was jailed again in December 2022 for sexually abusing a girl under 13. At a June 2024 First-tier Tribunal, Judge Leanne Turner ruled that deporting him would breach European human rights law. Her reasoning? He could be persecuted in Pakistan as an alcoholic because alcohol is illegal over there. The judge ruled:

“Sufficient evidence to show the lower standard, that the appellant would face inhuman or degrading treatment on return to Pakistan as a result of a highly likely criminal prosecution and imprisonment for his uncontrollable alcohol consumption. As such, returning to Pakistan would breach the U.K.’s obligations under Article 3 of the ECHR.”

Details of the case were published on Monday"

https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/ui-2024-003437

The government could act to issue more guidance on the interpretation of the ECHR by judges which seems to be more the issue . And equally and might be unpalatable to some is that rights sometimes help those who we think don’t deserve that protection . At the same time they do protect those we think do deserve that. The right wing argument is to effectively flush away rights for everyone .

We are inevitably going to leave the ECHR, it will either happen slowly with Labour reluctantly loosening the court's grip on our laws, or it will happen with a bang under the next government, and it will be total

Every one of these insane judgements adds major fuel to an underground fire, ready to break out

The ECHR can be reformed and there’s many countries that would support that .

I genuinely wish that was the case, but I don't believe it is. It's a lumbering bureaucratic blob that is unreformable, the only option is to excise it from our constitution entirely. And sack about 500 judges

I don’t know if the failing lies with the ECHR or with those who interpret it in perverse ways.

The real problem is the way that rights get decoupled from responsibilities. So, the tribunals uphold a right to remain in this country, but impose no responsibility on the person claiming that right, to obey our criminal laws.

Sean_F said:

Leon said:

nico67 said:

Leon said:

nico67 said:

Leon said:

JosiasJessop said:

Leon said:

Government and judiciary still doing its best to get Civil War 2.0 going

"Migrant paedophile who attacked teenage girl allowed to stay in Britain as he would face 'inhuman treatment' in Pakistan because he's an 'alcoholic'"

https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1904801146197209229

Basically the courts are saying that it's better that this rapist alcoholic Pakistani assaults British girls, rather than Pakistani girls back home, because..... what? Can someone tell me?

GB News is saying that. There's a good chance that they're 'misinterpreting' what the court actually said.

It's true

Guido:

"In yet another ludicrous display of a left-wing judge thwarting the deportation of foreign criminals under the ECHR, a Pakistani paedophile, deemed a “danger to the community,” was allowed to stay in the UK last year…because he’s an alcoholic.

The criminal, who’s been granted anonymity, came to the UK in 2010, was jailed in June 2020 for assaulting emergency workers while “heavily intoxicated,” and was jailed again in December 2022 for sexually abusing a girl under 13. At a June 2024 First-tier Tribunal, Judge Leanne Turner ruled that deporting him would breach European human rights law. Her reasoning? He could be persecuted in Pakistan as an alcoholic because alcohol is illegal over there. The judge ruled:

“Sufficient evidence to show the lower standard, that the appellant would face inhuman or degrading treatment on return to Pakistan as a result of a highly likely criminal prosecution and imprisonment for his uncontrollable alcohol consumption. As such, returning to Pakistan would breach the U.K.’s obligations under Article 3 of the ECHR.”

Details of the case were published on Monday"

https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/ui-2024-003437

The government could act to issue more guidance on the interpretation of the ECHR by judges which seems to be more the issue . And equally and might be unpalatable to some is that rights sometimes help those who we think don’t deserve that protection . At the same time they do protect those we think do deserve that. The right wing argument is to effectively flush away rights for everyone .

We are inevitably going to leave the ECHR, it will either happen slowly with Labour reluctantly loosening the court's grip on our laws, or it will happen with a bang under the next government, and it will be total

Every one of these insane judgements adds major fuel to an underground fire, ready to break out

The ECHR can be reformed and there’s many countries that would support that .

I genuinely wish that was the case, but I don't believe it is. It's a lumbering bureaucratic blob that is unreformable, the only option is to excise it from our constitution entirely. And sack about 500 judges

I don’t know if the failing lies with the ECHR or with those who interpret it in perverse ways.

The real problem is the way that rights get decoupled from responsibilities. So, the tribunals uphold a right to remain in this country, but impose no responsibility on the person claiming that right, to obey our criminal laws.

rottenborough said:

Looks like Hegseth is digging in. Still says not classified war plans on the chat.

carnforth said:

Sean_F said:

Leon said:

nico67 said:

Leon said:

nico67 said:

Leon said:

JosiasJessop said:

Leon said:

Government and judiciary still doing its best to get Civil War 2.0 going

"Migrant paedophile who attacked teenage girl allowed to stay in Britain as he would face 'inhuman treatment' in Pakistan because he's an 'alcoholic'"

https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1904801146197209229

Basically the courts are saying that it's better that this rapist alcoholic Pakistani assaults British girls, rather than Pakistani girls back home, because..... what? Can someone tell me?

GB News is saying that. There's a good chance that they're 'misinterpreting' what the court actually said.

It's true

Guido:

"In yet another ludicrous display of a left-wing judge thwarting the deportation of foreign criminals under the ECHR, a Pakistani paedophile, deemed a “danger to the community,” was allowed to stay in the UK last year…because he’s an alcoholic.

The criminal, who’s been granted anonymity, came to the UK in 2010, was jailed in June 2020 for assaulting emergency workers while “heavily intoxicated,” and was jailed again in December 2022 for sexually abusing a girl under 13. At a June 2024 First-tier Tribunal, Judge Leanne Turner ruled that deporting him would breach European human rights law. Her reasoning? He could be persecuted in Pakistan as an alcoholic because alcohol is illegal over there. The judge ruled:

“Sufficient evidence to show the lower standard, that the appellant would face inhuman or degrading treatment on return to Pakistan as a result of a highly likely criminal prosecution and imprisonment for his uncontrollable alcohol consumption. As such, returning to Pakistan would breach the U.K.’s obligations under Article 3 of the ECHR.”

Details of the case were published on Monday"

https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/ui-2024-003437

The government could act to issue more guidance on the interpretation of the ECHR by judges which seems to be more the issue . And equally and might be unpalatable to some is that rights sometimes help those who we think don’t deserve that protection . At the same time they do protect those we think do deserve that. The right wing argument is to effectively flush away rights for everyone .

We are inevitably going to leave the ECHR, it will either happen slowly with Labour reluctantly loosening the court's grip on our laws, or it will happen with a bang under the next government, and it will be total

Every one of these insane judgements adds major fuel to an underground fire, ready to break out

The ECHR can be reformed and there’s many countries that would support that .

I genuinely wish that was the case, but I don't believe it is. It's a lumbering bureaucratic blob that is unreformable, the only option is to excise it from our constitution entirely. And sack about 500 judges

I don’t know if the failing lies with the ECHR or with those who interpret it in perverse ways.

The real problem is the way that rights get decoupled from responsibilities. So, the tribunals uphold a right to remain in this country, but impose no responsibility on the person claiming that right, to obey our criminal laws.

Right, but that's why the rights are "fundamental", isn't it, rather than contingent.

I do wonder if the 20th century version of rights will endure.

AugustusCarp2 said:

rottenborough said:

Looks like Hegseth is digging in. Still says not classified war plans on the chat.

They've read bits out loud on Radio 4 just now - I'm not an expert on military or security matters, but it certainly sounded like the sort of information that ought to be Classified!

Leon said:

FPT coz I’m genuinely interested in the pb insight


Question. Musk is raising the price of premium plus on X from £30 a month to £47 from next month

Premium plus gets you unlimited access to all X capabilities

That is an enormous increase with no obvious reason why. No pre-announced upgrade. So what’s going on?

Theory?

1. Musk is desperate for cash
2. X is about to make some incredible new functionality available, or X will be offering the worlds first convincing virtual sex etc

What is it? Thoughts?

Leon said:

Sean_F said:

Leon said:

nico67 said:

Leon said:

nico67 said:

Leon said:

JosiasJessop said:

Leon said:

Government and judiciary still doing its best to get Civil War 2.0 going

"Migrant paedophile who attacked teenage girl allowed to stay in Britain as he would face 'inhuman treatment' in Pakistan because he's an 'alcoholic'"

https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1904801146197209229

Basically the courts are saying that it's better that this rapist alcoholic Pakistani assaults British girls, rather than Pakistani girls back home, because..... what? Can someone tell me?

GB News is saying that. There's a good chance that they're 'misinterpreting' what the court actually said.

It's true

Guido:

"In yet another ludicrous display of a left-wing judge thwarting the deportation of foreign criminals under the ECHR, a Pakistani paedophile, deemed a “danger to the community,” was allowed to stay in the UK last year…because he’s an alcoholic.

The criminal, who’s been granted anonymity, came to the UK in 2010, was jailed in June 2020 for assaulting emergency workers while “heavily intoxicated,” and was jailed again in December 2022 for sexually abusing a girl under 13. At a June 2024 First-tier Tribunal, Judge Leanne Turner ruled that deporting him would breach European human rights law. Her reasoning? He could be persecuted in Pakistan as an alcoholic because alcohol is illegal over there. The judge ruled:

“Sufficient evidence to show the lower standard, that the appellant would face inhuman or degrading treatment on return to Pakistan as a result of a highly likely criminal prosecution and imprisonment for his uncontrollable alcohol consumption. As such, returning to Pakistan would breach the U.K.’s obligations under Article 3 of the ECHR.”

Details of the case were published on Monday"

https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/ui-2024-003437

The government could act to issue more guidance on the interpretation of the ECHR by judges which seems to be more the issue . And equally and might be unpalatable to some is that rights sometimes help those who we think don’t deserve that protection . At the same time they do protect those we think do deserve that. The right wing argument is to effectively flush away rights for everyone .

We are inevitably going to leave the ECHR, it will either happen slowly with Labour reluctantly loosening the court's grip on our laws, or it will happen with a bang under the next government, and it will be total

Every one of these insane judgements adds major fuel to an underground fire, ready to break out

The ECHR can be reformed and there’s many countries that would support that .

I genuinely wish that was the case, but I don't believe it is. It's a lumbering bureaucratic blob that is unreformable, the only option is to excise it from our constitution entirely. And sack about 500 judges

I don’t know if the failing lies with the ECHR or with those who interpret it in perverse ways.

The real problem is the way that rights get decoupled from responsibilities. So, the tribunals uphold a right to remain in this country, but impose no responsibility on the person claiming that right, to obey our criminal laws.

I think the fault lies with the ECHR as is, AND with Woke British judges determined to interpret it in the most ridiculous manner

How about the human rights of British people who will be attacked by this alcoholic Pakistani pedophile? Because he will obviously do it again, look at his record. Why do HIS human rights override British rights to be safe on the street?

Fact is, when a foreigner with a violent criminal history gets convicted for sexually assaulting a 13 year old girl, he shoud be on a plane home the very next day. That's it. No question, no delay. He can "appeal" from Lahore on his own shilling, if he insists

Leon said:

FPT coz I’m genuinely interested in the pb insight


Question. Musk is raising the price of premium plus on X from £30 a month to £47 from next month

Premium plus gets you unlimited access to all X capabilities

That is an enormous increase with no obvious reason why. No pre-announced upgrade. So what’s going on?

Theory?

1. Musk is desperate for cash
2. X is about to make some incredible new functionality available, or X will be offering the worlds first convincing virtual sex etc

What is it? Thoughts?

DavidL said:

ydoethur said:

rottenborough said:

Looks like Hegseth is digging in. Still says not classified war plans on the chat.

The plans may be unclassified.

He clearly needs to be certified.

How can these plans be unclassified? It is target and time information in real time. I think Hegseth is working on the premise that people can’t read.

Andy_JS said:

JosiasJessop said:

Leon said:

Government and judiciary still doing its best to get Civil War 2.0 going

"Migrant paedophile who attacked teenage girl allowed to stay in Britain as he would face 'inhuman treatment' in Pakistan because he's an 'alcoholic'"

https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1904801146197209229

Basically the courts are saying that it's better that this rapist alcoholic Pakistani assaults British girls, rather than Pakistani girls back home, because..... what? Can someone tell me?

GB News is saying that. There's a good chance that they're 'misinterpreting' what the court actually said.

The Telegraph is saying it too.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/26/pakistani-paedophile-allowed-stay-uk-as-he-is-alcoholic/

DavidL said:

So the OBR, who got their forecast of this year’s growth wrong by a mere 50%, and are almost certainly still on the optimistic side, are forecasting a sudden and unexplained boost in growth next year and the following years and ON THAT BASIS, is predicting that Reeves will meet her extremely modest targets in 4 years time by £10bn ( about 0.1% of output over that period).

If you put this forward as a potential sitcom it would be instantly rejected as completely implausible.

rcs1000 said:

Nigelb said:

Dura_Ace said:

I wonder what the truth about Signalgate is. There is no fucking way that the one person added to the group by mistake at just happened to be the editor of the Atlantic by chance. Sabotage from within MAGAworld?

I don't believe the journalist contrived to insert himself into the group. If he did, he'd be in ADX Florence for the next 99 years on espionage charges. Which is still a possibility for him anyway.

Right at the top:

"Michael Waltz added you to the chat"
https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1904873322950644172

This kind of thing happens all the time: when I was a fund manager, my email I was once added to an email discussion about a pending corporate transaction that I definitely shouldn't have been privy too.

Presumably my name was similar to someone they did want on the email.