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  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,252
    Some facts about Kamala Harris:
    1. Harris is -- at most - 1/4 black. Her father is a mixed race man from Jamaica; her mother is from India.
    2. She grew up more in Canada than the US.
    3. She is a member of a historically black Baptist church in San Francisco.
    4. She is married to a Jewish lawyer in the entertainment industry. (As far as I can tell, neither regularly attends worship services.)
    5. Her choice by Biden reflects the old-fashioned ethnic/religious balancing used by many Democratic machines, approximately forever.
    (In recent years, aspiring women politicians in the US have often chosen either to serve in the military, or as prosecutors to show they were tough enough.)
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,576
    Leon said:

    Ugh. YOU
    Not up for it?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,288
    MaxPB said:

    If they put income tax up by anywhere near that much they've lost the 2029 election on day one. NI and extending fiscal drag to 2029 is the obvious target.
    Fiscal drag has already been extended until 2028, so quite possibly pretty much all the next government's term. I suppose Labour could let inflation rip to make it more potent.

    Sunak and Hunt have already sewn a load of prawns into the curtains of Whitehall and Westminster. Nobody seriously believes the spending envelope that the fiscal rule depends on. Cutting NI by another tuppence would be so blatant a gimmick that I suspect it would give Reeves permission to increase taxes higher than she might otherwise have intended.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,566

    None of which says that it came from the lab, or that Covid-19 is a result of gain of function research. It may be. It might not be.
    You’re an imbecile. Why do you think Ecohealth was so desperately lying to the US government before and after Covid broke out if 1 they weren’t doing desperately risky gain of function bat coronavirus research and 2 they then got intensely worried they were responsible for Covid?

    At some point you cease being a neutral scientific observer of this and you become a pathetic craven apologist who cannot face up to the extreme likelihood that science did a terrible thing to the world
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,566

    Not up for it?
    I genuinely despise you on this subject. So, no

    I won’t engage with you further on this point. You are intellectually redundant in this matter and utterly dishonest at best. And I don’t want to lose my temper and get banned
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,576
    Leon said:

    You’re an imbecile. Why do you think Ecohealth was so desperately lying to the US government before and after Covid broke out if 1 they weren’t doing desperately risky gain of function bat coronavirus research and 2 they then got intensely worried they were responsible for Covid?

    At some point you cease being a neutral scientific observer of this and you become a pathetic craven apologist who cannot face up to the extreme likelihood that science did a terrible thing to the world
    They might have thought that they were responsible without it actually being the case. Its possible. I have no illusions about the malfeasance of some scientists - they are just people after all. I fully believe that Ecohealth were doing things that they shouldn't, and I accept as entirely plausible that covid resulted. But that doesn't mean the case is closed. You fail to recognise that diseases emerge all the time and from time to time they become an extreme risk to humanity. There is significant concern about bird flu right now. Should it become a serious pandemic would you accept that this one wasn't a lab leak?

    I don't KNOW the truth, and neither do you. You believe it was a leak from the lab of an artificially changed virus. I accept that that is possible. I keep an open mind.

    If evidence emerged tomorrow that confirmed it, I would not be stunned. But neither am I yet convinced from what we have.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,856
    edited May 2024
    MattW said:

    No, that's wrong.

    The offences of Careless Cycling and Dangerous Cycling are in sections 28 and 29 of the Road Traffic Act 1988, as amended by the RTA 1991.
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/part/I/crossheading/cycling-offences-and-cycle-racing

    That is, they have been in law since 1992, and a lot of people are charged with these per annum. I have a number of 100+ in my head, but I'm not sure which offence it relates to.

    They use the below and far below "the standard of a careful and competent cyclist" as the definition, the same as the driving offences.

    The Coroner determined that the cause of death was "Accident". The police determined that no criminal offences could be charged, despite those offences already being available for use. One has to assume the cyclist was charged not with the offences available, because he was not cycling carelessly or dangerously to a chargeable standard.

    The IDS amendments do not change the definition of Careless or Dangerous, except for the 'maintenance' bit (whatever that means).

    So the claim that "they could certainly be charged ..." is just false. The police have determined that there is no possibility of such a charge, I take it because of the low likelihood of a conviction.

    Motorists or lorry drivers do not get charged with careless or dangerous driving for going 9mph over the speed limit.

    If you really want to dig into this, there is an interview with Martin Porter, known as the Cycling KC, here:
    https://road.cc/content/news/martin-porter-kc-cycling-law-mental-health-awareness-roadcc-podcast-308409

    Mr Harper and his colleagues do not seem to be doing very much to prevent the sale of dangerous batteries under the Sale of Goods Act. There are 14 people dead in the last 2 years.
    Careless cycling or dangerous cycling is NOT the same as careless cycling causing death or serious injury or dangerous cycling causing death or serious injury which the new law allows for.

    Going 9mph over the speed limit certainly could come under careless or even dangerous driving or cycling as the police website says and yes motorists DO get charged with going that much over the speed limit. The police in question would almost certainly take such actions further once the new law comes in

    https://www.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/rs/road-safety/driving-offences/
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,856

    It's worth bearing in mind that if cyclists grow overly concerned that they could fall foul of a badly drafted law that leaves a wide scope for subjective judgement then they're likely to drive instead - where they are far more likely to hurt or kill a pedestrian. So the net effect could be to lead to more pedestrian deaths. Hopefully this new offence will be carefully worded and well understood.
    Drivers already get charged and convicted for death by dangerous driving or death by careless driving or causing serious injury by either. So they would not be better off, just given equal terms.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,566
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