The owner of the AirBnB I’ve been in this week, which is a house by a lake surrounded by a few fields (which you could see at the bottom of the photo I posted this morning taken from up on the hill), has just dropped by to give me a bottle of sparking, by way of goodbye, since I move on tomorrow.
Since we’ve had a guy out in his tractor all day ploughing the fields around the house, I ask her what crop they’ll be planting, thinking it will be some edible vegetable, since the soil here looks very good. She said it will be flowers for the bees. After a bit of back and forth in my intermediate Italian, I establish that they don’t actually have any bees, but are doing it for the general good of those in the area that do. Isn’t that remarkable? That guy’s been working all day, and presumably will be out another day sowing seed, and there’s no financial payback at all (unless somehow the beekeepers are paying them to do this?).
A bit weaselly worded by the Sun (who could have predicted?)..
'JL partners found 55 per cent of people are actually in favour of asylum seekers being "removed to their home country or to a safe country, such as Rwanda". '
Ite definitely worded in a way that elicits support but the margin is fairly vast. Given Starmers plan involves only crack detectives from the sniff squad, being Liam Neeson and no removals it's flying in the face of the findings a bit. We will see what feeling the summer dinghies bring
The good ship HMS Starmer could run aground on nasty reefs early in his prime ministerial voyage - if he fucks up Rwanda and the boats
I’d be more embarrassed by wearing the same trainers as the sort of wankers who get angry about a politician wearing the same shoes as them because they are like so cool and original and just ruined by Sunak and the millions of other unoriginal tossers.
Yes quite. Who the fuck bases their footwear choice on the choices of the Prime Minister
That said i think any man over 30 wearing trainers outside some kind of physical context - sports, hiking, gym, major family outing, house moving, etc - is somewhat suspect
Imagine some loser who has made millions in a successful career, got into top academic institutions, married a billionaire, been chancellor and PM of the UK by his mid forties wears the same trainer as you. It must be so dispiriting to those successful freelance writers who struggle to tout their opinion pieces and articles about wild swimming, living in their garrets to see such a failure making a fashion choice the same as theirs, and millions of other original style free-thinkers, and destroying their original look.
And agreed, trainers are for physical exercise and are totally inelegant otherwise and reflect the enshitification of style and infantilisation of adults’ dress.
Looks like Labour is heading for most Scottish MPs for the first time since 2010 and also most MSPs in 2026, making Sarwar FM and giving a Unionist majority at Holyrood
Erm...if you read it carefully, that is not backing for the "Rwanda Scheme" as it operates. The poll shows 55% support for asylum seekers being "removed to their home country or to a safe country, such as Rwanda". "Such as Rwanda" is doing a lot of work there
Well, a policy of removal is supported 55 to 22. I think we can assume given that Rwanda is specifically named that those polled are not opposed to the policy by the majority as given. There is a majority in favour of removal. Starmer today has not addressed that. As such, risky for him, but would want to see polling on 'flights versus Starmers plan' to see if it shifts the dial
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
A bit weaselly worded by the Sun (who could have predicted?)..
'JL partners found 55 per cent of people are actually in favour of asylum seekers being "removed to their home country or to a safe country, such as Rwanda". '
Ite definitely worded in a way that elicits support but the margin is fairly vast. Given Starmers plan involves only crack detectives from the sniff squad, being Liam Neeson and no removals it's flying in the face of the findings a bit. We will see what feeling the summer dinghies bring
The good ship HMS Starmer could run aground on nasty reefs early in his prime ministerial voyage - if he fucks up Rwanda and the boats
Erm...if you read it carefully, that is not backing for the "Rwanda Scheme" as it operates. The poll shows 55% support for asylum seekers being "removed to their home country or to a safe country, such as Rwanda". "Such as Rwanda" is doing a lot of work there
True dat. I have travelled in Africa as a poor person and on the cheap, but with poor meaning having at least 1000x as much as the average African and with a white skin and UK passport meaning I have first world diplomatic muscle behind me. To a penniless brown deportee Rwanda is safe like Oświęcim in 1943 was safe. Seriously. That's why it works as a deterrent if it does.
A bit weaselly worded by the Sun (who could have predicted?)..
'JL partners found 55 per cent of people are actually in favour of asylum seekers being "removed to their home country or to a safe country, such as Rwanda". '
Ite definitely worded in a way that elicits support but the margin is fairly vast. Given Starmers plan involves only crack detectives from the sniff squad, being Liam Neeson and no removals it's flying in the face of the findings a bit. We will see what feeling the summer dinghies bring
The good ship HMS Starmer could run aground on nasty reefs early in his prime ministerial voyage - if he fucks up Rwanda and the boats
Possibly, he is a decent man but also lacks charisma to get out of it if the economy goes south and he faces strikes and immigration problems, indeed he will be as dull a PM as May or Brown most likely. He even makes John Major look like an exciting PM
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Very nice example of graffiti, though, right up htere with the runic graffiti in Maeshoew in Orkney (and IRC on a Byzantine marble lion now in Venice).
Yes it’s brilliant. Also the famous runic graffiti carved by a bored Varangian guard at Hagia Sophia - but that’s 10th century and they were Norsemen so you kind of expect it. So this is MORE surprising and “English” and much older
Anything from the Dark Ages (so called) gives me a noomic shiver
I’m pretty sure I saw some apotropaic graffiti further up
It’s an amazing place. I thoroughly recommend it to PBers seeking an unusual holiday. The gargano peninsula. It is also notably cheap outside high summer. You’ll have it to yourself - tho it is chilly if sunny up in these hills under the scoured skies
Might have to plan a walk there some day
Happy to advise. Its really cheap and seriously beautiful. Only Italians (and a few Germans) come here in numbers and they only come in high summer. Good food as well
In the late 30s there were about 50 German anthropologists that decided to tip up in Iceland.
Might have had ulterior motives: two obvious ones ...
Ok, now I'm worried about my little wedge on Biden...
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I can’t get my head around rune-using Anglo Saxons from 7th century dark age England ending up working as priests in Lombardic puglia
How the F? And what a journey. Maybe the dark ages weren’t quite as dark as we think
How about the Amesbury Archer?
Proved (somehow) to have spent his childhood in the Alps
I think there have been serious walkers about for millennia
Yes. The Stonehenge exhibition at the BM - amazing
God bless the walkers of the world. They are nearly always nice people - walkers. Maybe sometimes a bit gauche or shy or twee - but nice. Can’t say the same for drivers and cyclists
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
A bit weaselly worded by the Sun (who could have predicted?)..
'JL partners found 55 per cent of people are actually in favour of asylum seekers being "removed to their home country or to a safe country, such as Rwanda". '
Ite definitely worded in a way that elicits support but the margin is fairly vast. Given Starmers plan involves only crack detectives from the sniff squad, being Liam Neeson and no removals it's flying in the face of the findings a bit. We will see what feeling the summer dinghies bring
The good ship HMS Starmer could run aground on nasty reefs early in his prime ministerial voyage - if he fucks up Rwanda and the boats
Possibly, he is a decent man but also lacks charisma to get out of it if the economy goes south and he faces strikes and immigration problems, indeed he will be as dull a PM as May or Brown most likely. He even makes John Major look like an exciting PM
Personality wise his closest analogue is possibly Clement Attlee. He’ll be hoping for a longer time in office.
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
Good one. I’ve no obvious instant idea without googling so - that’s good
Fuck. Hmm. Tricky. Zinfandel?
Edit to add: it doesn’t taste like primitivo tho. And I’ve no idea if Zinfandel is a new world grape
Otherwise I’d go for pinotage but I always thought that was an unpleasant invention of the saffers
I remember the OTHER PB Tim - also in wine - describing pinotage as tasting like “burnt condoms” and he had a point
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
I know that Zinfandel is actually Primitivo, but aren’t aware that it was ever thought to be unique to the New World.
The vines that actually are unique to the New World - which are actually a different grape genus from the one that makes all European wines - make disgusting wine, under such names as Norton and Concord, and were turned to by the early settlers when they failed to get European grape varieties to grow. If you were desperate for wine, you might settle for them, but they usually taste most peculiar indeed.
Interestingly, Primitivo/Zinfandel produced tons of cheap red plonk for the gold rush diggers, but afterwards was mostly forgotten about in the US. It was by accident that during the 1970s a wine maker’s fermentation went wrong, but he thought he might be able to sell the light pale wine he ended up with, and so the ‘White Zinfandel’ craze swept across the US, mirroring the craze for Mateus Rose in Europe, filling the same spot of bringing non-wine drinkers to a drink that could, just about, be considered as wine. That rescued the grape from obscurity and in later decades other US winemakers set about making serious red wines from it, as they’ve always been doing in the part of Italy where Leon is.
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
Out of interest, what makes you think you have the right to ask either question?
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
I thought you were in New York? In your answer to your own quiz?
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
I know that Zinfandel is actually Primitivo, but aren’t aware that it was ever thought to be unique to the New World.
The vines that actually are unique to the New World - which are actually a different grape genus from the one that makes all European wines - make disgusting wine, under such names as Norton and Concord, and were turned to by the early settlers when they failed to get European grape varieties to grow. If you were desperate for wine, you might settle for them, but they usually taste most peculiar indeed.
Vitis vinifera is proper old world I believe so the theory would have to be that zinfandel was a sport arising post Columbus.
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
I know that Zinfandel is actually Primitivo, but aren’t aware that it was ever thought to be unique to the New World.
The vines that actually are unique to the New World - which are actually a different grape genus from the one that makes all European wines - make disgusting wine, under such names as Norton and Concord, and were turned to by the early settlers when they failed to get European grape varieties to grow. If you were desperate for wine, you might settle for them, but they usually taste most peculiar indeed.
Interestingly, Primitivo/Zinfandel produced tons of cheap red plonk for the gold rush diggers, but afterwards was mostly forgotten about in the US. It was by accident that during the 1970s a wine maker’s fermentation went wrong, but he thought he might be able to sell the light pale wine he ended up with, and so the ‘White Zinfandel’ craze swept across the US, mirroring the craze for Mateus Rose in Europe, filling the same spot of bringing non-wine drinkers to a drink that could, just about, be considered as wine. That rescued the grape from obscurity and in later decades other US winemakers set about making serious red wines from it, as they’ve always been doing in the part of Italy where Leon is.
It’s now believed that the grape originates from Croatia, and is called Primitivo because it’s the first to ripen, from late August. The developing popularity of well-made red Primitivo in the US during the early 2000s rescued the grape from obscurity and fed back to Italy, where it’s now more highly regarded. It makes medium tannin, relatively acidic red wines, that go well with many Italian meat dishes - just the sort of wines that Italians like.
A bit weaselly worded by the Sun (who could have predicted?)..
'JL partners found 55 per cent of people are actually in favour of asylum seekers being "removed to their home country or to a safe country, such as Rwanda". '
Ite definitely worded in a way that elicits support but the margin is fairly vast. Given Starmers plan involves only crack detectives from the sniff squad, being Liam Neeson and no removals it's flying in the face of the findings a bit. We will see what feeling the summer dinghies bring
The good ship HMS Starmer could run aground on nasty reefs early in his prime ministerial voyage - if he fucks up Rwanda and the boats
Possibly, he is a decent man but also lacks charisma to get out of it if the economy goes south and he faces strikes and immigration problems, indeed he will be as dull a PM as May or Brown most likely. He even makes John Major look like an exciting PM
Personality wise his closest analogue is possibly Clement Attlee. He’ll be hoping for a longer time in office.
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
I know that Zinfandel is actually Primitivo, but aren’t aware that it was ever thought to be unique to the New World.
The vines that actually are unique to the New World - which are actually a different grape genus from the one that makes all European wines - make disgusting wine, under such names as Norton and Concord, and were turned to by the early settlers when they failed to get European grape varieties to grow. If you were desperate for wine, you might settle for them, but they usually taste most peculiar indeed.
Interestingly, Primitivo/Zinfandel produced tons of cheap red plonk for the gold rush diggers, but afterwards was mostly forgotten about in the US. It was by accident that during the 1970s a wine maker’s fermentation went wrong, but he thought he might be able to sell the light pale wine he ended up with, and so the ‘White Zinfandel’ craze swept across the US, mirroring the craze for Mateus Rose in Europe, filling the same spot of bringing non-wine drinkers to a drink that could, just about, be considered as wine. That rescued the grape from obscurity and in later decades other US winemakers set about making serious red wines from it, as they’ve always been doing in the part of Italy where Leon is.
There is some outstanding red Zinfandel out there, if you know where to look.
Warning: this is from a notoriously pro-Putin account
Caveat: despite that, it is sometimes accurate. If this is true then Ukraine is in trouble
“The Ukrainian command is in a panic. The Russians gathered a force of 50,000 soldiers for the first wave of the offensive. It is obvious that after the first wave of attacks, there will be new ones. In total, it is planned that up to two hundred thousand soldiers will be deployed in the direction of Kharkiv by the end of this year. Everything depends on the success and progress of the Russian soldiers.”
Everything is ready for the offensive operation in Kharkiv.”
The gap between those who want Scotland to be an independeng country and those expecting to vote SNP is quite remarkable, given it is essentially that party's USP.
There are two other pro-Independence parties, and we're nearly ten years from the Referendum now, with the prospect of a future referendum currently feeling remote, and the SNP not presenting any realistic strategy for achieving independence that people could vote for.
So you could see why someone's support for Independence might begin to feel somewhat academic, and not the sole driver of voting intention, as it was in 2015, say.
But that support for Independence hasn't gone away, and it's one capable politician away from reinvigorating the SNP.
It's driven partially by what's happening down south. The emergence of a sensible Labour Party down south and the seeming likelihood of the Tories taking one in their hoop when the election comes around is giving people a sense that independence isn't the only route out of the stupidity that's dominated Westminster for a long time. It's Starmer with the weight of the union on his shoulders right now, before he's even in power. The best polls Yes has had in recent years were in the immediate wake of Truss. Sunak has proved less repugnant to Scots, and Starmer better still. You'll see Yes drop further in the Labour honeymoon, should that come. You'll see Yes consistently below 40% for some months, barring events.
Is that 40% excluding don't know?
Consistently below 40% including don't knows is my prediction. The recent average is about 43% yes and 47% no. I'm predicting a (temporary?) 5pp swing away from yes for, let's say, at least six months after a Labour majority, should that election result come about.
Mm. How far can SKS go to the right, though, before that has an effect? He's practically bounding along Peacehaven beach with binoculars and phoning up Border Force every time he sees a bairn on a blow-up replica of DougSeal.
This is why I'm talking about the honeymoon effect. Right now nothing gets pinned to SKS because he's not actually responsible for anything. People in Scotland are fucking sick of the Tories and there's a hope that things will be so much better because SKS is relatively sensible and to the extent there's any drama he seems to be on the "sensible" side. There will be a palpable sense of release and relief when the Tories are finally gone and the "let's get away from this English mess" aspect of independence will decline to rock bottom levels. Of course, there are other drivers of Indy intention that will be less affected by Westminster honeymoons.
I'm not making firm predictions for what happens after the honeymoon - let's see if I'm right even on the first bit - but my hunch is that as mistakes and cynicism start to pile up, which is a given for all governments, those numbers will creep back up. Let's see.
If asked to predict when in this decade the lowest Yes number will come, I would guess about May 2025. Low so far is June 2023.
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
Out of interest, what makes you think you have the right to ask either question?
What a prat. It was a joke. Of course I wouldn't. Get a life.
Eurovision betting has seen a mild swing back. Croatia is again odds-on, and Israel back to 7/2 (still shorter than they started the day).
It would be wonderful is Israel win and then host the show in Gaza next year so all the Palestinian/Eurovision lovers can get a taste of the intolerance they are supporting. They love the usual Eurovision demographic in Gaza.
Eurovision betting has seen a mild swing back. Croatia is again odds-on, and Israel back to 7/2 (still shorter than they started the day).
It would be wonderful is Israel win and then host the show in Gaza next year so all the Palestinian/Eurovision lovers can get a taste of the intolerance they are supporting. They love the usual Eurovision demographic in Gaza.
Indeed. Killing 35,000 Palestinians is pretty intolerant.
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
I know that Zinfandel is actually Primitivo, but aren’t aware that it was ever thought to be unique to the New World.
The vines that actually are unique to the New World - which are actually a different grape genus from the one that makes all European wines - make disgusting wine, under such names as Norton and Concord, and were turned to by the early settlers when they failed to get European grape varieties to grow. If you were desperate for wine, you might settle for them, but they usually taste most peculiar indeed.
Interestingly, Primitivo/Zinfandel produced tons of cheap red plonk for the gold rush diggers, but afterwards was mostly forgotten about in the US. It was by accident that during the 1970s a wine maker’s fermentation went wrong, but he thought he might be able to sell the light pale wine he ended up with, and so the ‘White Zinfandel’ craze swept across the US, mirroring the craze for Mateus Rose in Europe, filling the same spot of bringing non-wine drinkers to a drink that could, just about, be considered as wine. That rescued the grape from obscurity and in later decades other US winemakers set about making serious red wines from it, as they’ve always been doing in the part of Italy where Leon is.
I find most “serious” primitivos too dark and dense. It is highly fashionable now but it’s not really for me. It also doesn’t especially suit the Mezzogiorno climate. Unless you are up in the gargano hills (as I am)
I’m also fairly immune to the charms of Zinfandel, for that matter
Of the classics I like a strong fruity Aussie Shiraz, one of the new argie malbecs, or a great Rhone valley blend
Warning: this is from a notoriously pro-Putin account
Caveat: despite that, it is sometimes accurate. If this is true then Ukraine is in trouble
“The Ukrainian command is in a panic. The Russians gathered a force of 50,000 soldiers for the first wave of the offensive. It is obvious that after the first wave of attacks, there will be new ones. In total, it is planned that up to two hundred thousand soldiers will be destroyed in the direction of Kharkiv by the end of this year. Everything depends on the success and progress of the Russian soldiers.”
Everything is ready for the offensive operation in Kharkiv.”
Eurovision betting has seen a mild swing back. Croatia is again odds-on, and Israel back to 7/2 (still shorter than they started the day).
French likely to hoover up the jury vote, so don't write them off.
Despite writing earlier that the French song is worse than ours it will still beat us because there is a nostalgic love for French romantic crooning type songs. It’s shit but if you can’t be novel then be nostalgic.
Warning: this is from a notoriously pro-Putin account
Caveat: despite that, it is sometimes accurate. If this is true then Ukraine is in trouble
“The Ukrainian command is in a panic. The Russians gathered a force of 50,000 soldiers for the first wave of the offensive. It is obvious that after the first wave of attacks, there will be new ones. In total, it is planned that up to two hundred thousand soldiers will be deployed in the direction of Kharkiv by the end of this year. Everything depends on the success and progress of the Russian soldiers.”
Everything is ready for the offensive operation in Kharkiv.”
Oh, I'm sure that's correct. Russia is massing its forces for an all attack, and to capture Kharkov.
The thing is, so far massed attacks - from both sides - have been horrendously costly for the attackers. Whenever Ukraine has tried to go on the offensive, even with modern Western tanks, they've failed. And when Russia has throw massive troops at an offensive, they've taken terrible casualties. Just like in the First World War, if you dig in, you're very difficult to overrrun.
If Russia breaks the mold this time, and successfully takes Kharkov, it's possible Ukraine folds. It's also possible that Russia will find themselves taking terrible casualties and having "shot their bolt". Where are the next 200,000 troops for Russia if this offensive only captures a few tens of miles of territory?
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
Eurovision betting has seen a mild swing back. Croatia is again odds-on, and Israel back to 7/2 (still shorter than they started the day).
It would be wonderful is Israel win and then host the show in Gaza next year so all the Palestinian/Eurovision lovers can get a taste of the intolerance they are supporting. They love the usual Eurovision demographic in Gaza.
Indeed. Killing 35,000 Palestinians is pretty intolerant.
How many Hamas terrorists/rapists/murderers do you think it would be acceptable for Israel to kill?
And how many of their captive, innocent civilians do you think would be acceptable collateral in that context?
Or do you really believe that Israel should only go for about a thousand of them, in order to keep Sunal Jazeera's barchart roughly equal?
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
And this is supposed to make you look good?
Knowing nothing about the poster, I am guessing that possible comebacks would be Why are you wearing a tweed jacket and tie in Nevada, and How many decades since you could sustain an erection without online medication?
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
I thought you were in New York? In your answer to your own quiz?
I'm intrigued @Leon . I didn't answer it, unless I have been hacked.
The only thing I know about Eurovision are the ins and outs of the UK’s entry in 2007.
I’m a Scooch Expert.
Scooch are the UK's best ever entry! OK, they didn't score well on the night, true, but "Flying The Flag" is quintessential Eurovision! Still in my head after 17 years!
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
I know that Zinfandel is actually Primitivo, but aren’t aware that it was ever thought to be unique to the New World.
The vines that actually are unique to the New World - which are actually a different grape genus from the one that makes all European wines - make disgusting wine, under such names as Norton and Concord, and were turned to by the early settlers when they failed to get European grape varieties to grow. If you were desperate for wine, you might settle for them, but they usually taste most peculiar indeed.
Interestingly, Primitivo/Zinfandel produced tons of cheap red plonk for the gold rush diggers, but afterwards was mostly forgotten about in the US. It was by accident that during the 1970s a wine maker’s fermentation went wrong, but he thought he might be able to sell the light pale wine he ended up with, and so the ‘White Zinfandel’ craze swept across the US, mirroring the craze for Mateus Rose in Europe, filling the same spot of bringing non-wine drinkers to a drink that could, just about, be considered as wine. That rescued the grape from obscurity and in later decades other US winemakers set about making serious red wines from it, as they’ve always been doing in the part of Italy where Leon is.
There is some outstanding red Zinfandel out there, if you know where to look.
I sort of get the appeal of primitivo / Zin but it’s not for me. Even when made in an old world style it’s too jammy.
To Ian’s point on native varieties it was never thought to be a native North American vine (vitis riparia) but assumed to be an obscure vinifera grape that nobody grew in the old world.
Eurovision betting has seen a mild swing back. Croatia is again odds-on, and Israel back to 7/2 (still shorter than they started the day).
It would be wonderful is Israel win and then host the show in Gaza next year so all the Palestinian/Eurovision lovers can get a taste of the intolerance they are supporting. They love the usual Eurovision demographic in Gaza.
Gaza is a pretty mess and Hamas are scum, but that's besides the point. You can stand opposed to the brutalisation of a people without endorsing the regime in charge of them.
If Israel is doing ethnic cleansing (and I don't intend to get into the weeds on this), then you're allowed to say that it's wrong without it being an endorsement of Hamas's genocidal aims.
You are correct, I’m just being a bit of an arse today. Hangover and all that.
Eurovision betting has seen a mild swing back. Croatia is again odds-on, and Israel back to 7/2 (still shorter than they started the day).
It would be wonderful is Israel win and then host the show in Gaza next year so all the Palestinian/Eurovision lovers can get a taste of the intolerance they are supporting. They love the usual Eurovision demographic in Gaza.
Indeed. Killing 35,000 Palestinians is pretty intolerant.
How many Hamas terrorists/rapists/murderers do you think it would be acceptable for Israel to kill?
And how many of their captive, innocent civilians do you think would be acceptable collateral in that context?
Or do you really believe that Israel should only go for about a thousand of them, in order to keep Sunal Jazeera's barchart roughly equal?
Even the US State Department believes the Hamas figures for dead and wounded are an UNDERestimate, due to bodies lying under the rubble produced by Israeli bombs and shells.
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
And this is supposed to make you look good?
It is a good job I didn't post my third thought as otherwise @megasaur would have had kittens because it was along the lines of g strings and the need for dieting.
The only thing I know about Eurovision are the ins and outs of the UK’s entry in 2007.
I’m a Scooch Expert.
Scooch are the UK's best ever entry! OK, they didn't score well on the night, true, but "Flying The Flag" is quintessential Eurovision! Still in my head after 17 years!
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
I know that Zinfandel is actually Primitivo, but aren’t aware that it was ever thought to be unique to the New World.
The vines that actually are unique to the New World - which are actually a different grape genus from the one that makes all European wines - make disgusting wine, under such names as Norton and Concord, and were turned to by the early settlers when they failed to get European grape varieties to grow. If you were desperate for wine, you might settle for them, but they usually taste most peculiar indeed.
Interestingly, Primitivo/Zinfandel produced tons of cheap red plonk for the gold rush diggers, but afterwards was mostly forgotten about in the US. It was by accident that during the 1970s a wine maker’s fermentation went wrong, but he thought he might be able to sell the light pale wine he ended up with, and so the ‘White Zinfandel’ craze swept across the US, mirroring the craze for Mateus Rose in Europe, filling the same spot of bringing non-wine drinkers to a drink that could, just about, be considered as wine. That rescued the grape from obscurity and in later decades other US winemakers set about making serious red wines from it, as they’ve always been doing in the part of Italy where Leon is.
I find most “serious” primitivos too dark and dense. It is highly fashionable now but it’s not really for me. It also doesn’t especially suit the Mezzogiorno climate. Unless you are up in the gargano hills (as I am)
I’m also fairly immune to the charms of Zinfandel, for that matter
Of the classics I like a strong fruity Aussie Shiraz, one of the new argie malbecs, or a great Rhone valley blend
There speaks a drinker who knocks back a bottle without food.
The Italians around you know that wine is to be enjoyed with a meal, and the Italian styles of wine are almost always too acidic to drink when not eating.
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
I thought you were in New York? In your answer to your own quiz?
I'm intrigued @Leon . I didn't answer it, unless I have been hacked.
Fair enough, maybe i was hallucinating during my ENORMOUS pilgrimage
Anyway i guessed Vegas so I guessed right so that means I guessed Vegas right and Zinfandel right and I WIN PB TODAY
At the risk of being accused of Scotch Expertry by our resident social media policeman does this not reflect more the circumstances of his predecessor’s departure than the shortcomings of the incumbent?
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
I know that Zinfandel is actually Primitivo, but aren’t aware that it was ever thought to be unique to the New World.
The vines that actually are unique to the New World - which are actually a different grape genus from the one that makes all European wines - make disgusting wine, under such names as Norton and Concord, and were turned to by the early settlers when they failed to get European grape varieties to grow. If you were desperate for wine, you might settle for them, but they usually taste most peculiar indeed.
Interestingly, Primitivo/Zinfandel produced tons of cheap red plonk for the gold rush diggers, but afterwards was mostly forgotten about in the US. It was by accident that during the 1970s a wine maker’s fermentation went wrong, but he thought he might be able to sell the light pale wine he ended up with, and so the ‘White Zinfandel’ craze swept across the US, mirroring the craze for Mateus Rose in Europe, filling the same spot of bringing non-wine drinkers to a drink that could, just about, be considered as wine. That rescued the grape from obscurity and in later decades other US winemakers set about making serious red wines from it, as they’ve always been doing in the part of Italy where Leon is.
There is some outstanding red Zinfandel out there, if you know where to look.
I sort of get the appeal of primitivo / Zin but it’s not for me. Even when made in an old world style it’s too jammy.
To Ian’s point on native varieties it was never thought to be a native North American vine (vitis riparia) but assumed to be an obscure vinifera grape that nobody grew in the old world.
People got more interested in where it came from when the White Zinfandel craze subsided and serious reds started being made in the early 1990s. It was settled conclusively by genetic testing.
The only thing I know about Eurovision are the ins and outs of the UK’s entry in 2007.
I’m a Scooch Expert.
Scooch are the UK's best ever entry! OK, they didn't score well on the night, true, but "Flying The Flag" is quintessential Eurovision! Still in my head after 17 years!
Eurovision betting has seen a mild swing back. Croatia is again odds-on, and Israel back to 7/2 (still shorter than they started the day).
It would be wonderful is Israel win and then host the show in Gaza next year so all the Palestinian/Eurovision lovers can get a taste of the intolerance they are supporting. They love the usual Eurovision demographic in Gaza.
Indeed. Killing 35,000 Palestinians is pretty intolerant.
How many Hamas terrorists/rapists/murderers do you think it would be acceptable for Israel to kill?
And how many of their captive, innocent civilians do you think would be acceptable collateral in that context?
Or do you really believe that Israel should only go for about a thousand of them, in order to keep Sunal Jazeera's barchart roughly equal?
Even the US State Department believes the Hamas figures for dead and wounded are an UNDERestimate, due to bodies lying under the rubble produced by Israeli bombs and shells.
You haven't answered any of my questions
How many Hamas rapist murderers dead would be too many, in your view?
Warning: this is from a notoriously pro-Putin account
Caveat: despite that, it is sometimes accurate. If this is true then Ukraine is in trouble
“The Ukrainian command is in a panic. The Russians gathered a force of 50,000 soldiers for the first wave of the offensive. It is obvious that after the first wave of attacks, there will be new ones. In total, it is planned that up to two hundred thousand soldiers will be deployed in the direction of Kharkiv by the end of this year. Everything depends on the success and progress of the Russian soldiers.”
Everything is ready for the offensive operation in Kharkiv.”
Oh, I'm sure that's correct. Russia is massing its forces for an all attack, and to capture Kharkov.
The thing is, so far massed attacks - from both sides - have been horrendously costly for the attackers. Whenever Ukraine has tried to go on the offensive, even with modern Western tanks, they've failed. And when Russia has throw massive troops at an offensive, they've taken terrible casualties. Just like in the First World War, if you dig in, you're very difficult to overrrun.
If Russia breaks the mold this time, and successfully takes Kharkov, it's possible Ukraine folds. It's also possible that Russia will find themselves taking terrible casualties and having "shot their bolt". Where are the next 200,000 troops for Russia if this offensive only captures a few tens of miles of territory?
Yes, fair
The appearance of a solitary T34 at the May Day parade because Russia has “run out of tanks” is not a good sign either - if it is true, which we do now know
Perhaps most interesting about this tweet is that it implies Russia really is committed to winning this war, does not want peace, and will lose 500,000 men to do it. What a grotesque tragedy in all departments. A million could die in this fatuous war
Erm...if you read it carefully, that is not backing for the "Rwanda Scheme" as it operates. The poll shows 55% support for asylum seekers being "removed to their home country or to a safe country, such as Rwanda". "Such as Rwanda" is doing a lot of work there
Well, a policy of removal is supported 55 to 22. I think we can assume given that Rwanda is specifically named that those polled are not opposed to the policy by the majority as given. There is a majority in favour of removal. Starmer today has not addressed that. As such, risky for him, but would want to see polling on 'flights versus Starmers plan' to see if it shifts the dial
99% of people won't have the first clue what Starmer's plan is. And it doesn't matter what it is - the average person doesn't follow that sort of detail.
In contrast, if a plane actually takes off to Rwanda on TV that is one of the few things that will cut through with the public.
Now my own view is it's still pretty unlikely a plane will take off to Rwanda pre General Election - because some Court somewhere will stop it or Civil Servants will all refuse to process people or whatever.
But at the same time, this does feel high risk for Starmer. Because if the unlikely event of a plane going were to happen that will cut through with the public. And if Starmer has said he will stop flights that would then be seriously damaging for him.
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
And this is supposed to make you look good?
It is a good job I didn't post my third thought as otherwise @megasaur would have had kittens because it was along the lines of g strings and the need for dieting.
Israeli ambassador to the UN Gilad Erdan has today spoken against the proposal to welcome Palestine as a UN member state. When he addressed the countries that support the proposal, can you guess which emotion he referred to? What about which WW2 political leader?
That's right. "Today", he declared, "You are about to (...) advance the establishment of a Palestinian terror state, which will be led by the Hitler of our times."
But according to the definition of "anti-Semitism" written by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance - adopted by Britain's three major political parties, as well as the British government - it's "anti-Semitic" to compare "contemporary Israeli policy" to "that of the Nazis".
So the Hitler emulators are calling the resistance to their Hitlerism horrible types who are just like Hitler, while painting anybody who says they themselves are like Hitler as...also just like Hitler.
What does this guy who died in the 1940s have to do with anything?
Ever get the feeling you are being treated like an absolute cretin by a bunch of hypocritical lying c***s?
Have you heard of Aribet Heim, Alfred Zingler, Johann von Leers, Wilhelm Boerner or Franz Bartel?
Actual, bona fide members of the actual Nazi party, who were actually employed by Arab nations after the war to help indoctrinate their people with real Jew killing hate
Who was it who indoctrinated the IDF with real Arab-killing hate?
The Arabs. Whatever Israel's sins, the Arabs have been really rotten neighbours. (Perhaps that is showing signs of change though)
But the Israelis have killed far more Arabs than the Arabs have killed Jews.
Since 2008, Hamas have killed 2,000 Israelis (including 7/10, natch), but the Israelis have killed over 40,000 Arabs (including the post-7/10 bombardment).
Pre-7/10, the Israelis killed 6,300 Arabs, while Hamas killed only 310 Jews (ie. from Jan 2008 to Sept 2023).
(Source - Wikipedia)
Of course, but the Arab's intent was very much the other way.
Hamas value their own people at about 100 to one Israeli. Nothing condemns them more effectively than such callous nonsense. A Palestinian is much the same as an Israeli.
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
And this is supposed to make you look good?
It is a good job I didn't post my third thought as otherwise @megasaur would have had kittens because it was along the lines of g strings and the need for dieting.
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
I know that Zinfandel is actually Primitivo, but aren’t aware that it was ever thought to be unique to the New World.
The vines that actually are unique to the New World - which are actually a different grape genus from the one that makes all European wines - make disgusting wine, under such names as Norton and Concord, and were turned to by the early settlers when they failed to get European grape varieties to grow. If you were desperate for wine, you might settle for them, but they usually taste most peculiar indeed.
Interestingly, Primitivo/Zinfandel produced tons of cheap red plonk for the gold rush diggers, but afterwards was mostly forgotten about in the US. It was by accident that during the 1970s a wine maker’s fermentation went wrong, but he thought he might be able to sell the light pale wine he ended up with, and so the ‘White Zinfandel’ craze swept across the US, mirroring the craze for Mateus Rose in Europe, filling the same spot of bringing non-wine drinkers to a drink that could, just about, be considered as wine. That rescued the grape from obscurity and in later decades other US winemakers set about making serious red wines from it, as they’ve always been doing in the part of Italy where Leon is.
I find most “serious” primitivos too dark and dense. It is highly fashionable now but it’s not really for me. It also doesn’t especially suit the Mezzogiorno climate. Unless you are up in the gargano hills (as I am)
I’m also fairly immune to the charms of Zinfandel, for that matter
Of the classics I like a strong fruity Aussie Shiraz, one of the new argie malbecs, or a great Rhone valley blend
There speaks a drinker who knocks back a bottle without food.
The Italians around you know that wine is to be enjoyed with a meal, and the Italian styles of wine are almost always too acidic to drink when not eating.
Yes, probably true. Also I drink much MORE than them, they are such lightweights
Eurovision betting has seen a mild swing back. Croatia is again odds-on, and Israel back to 7/2 (still shorter than they started the day).
It would be wonderful is Israel win and then host the show in Gaza next year so all the Palestinian/Eurovision lovers can get a taste of the intolerance they are supporting. They love the usual Eurovision demographic in Gaza.
Indeed. Killing 35,000 Palestinians is pretty intolerant.
How many Hamas terrorists/rapists/murderers do you think it would be acceptable for Israel to kill?
And how many of their captive, innocent civilians do you think would be acceptable collateral in that context?
Or do you really believe that Israel should only go for about a thousand of them, in order to keep Sunal Jazeera's barchart roughly equal?
Even the US State Department believes the Hamas figures for dead and wounded are an UNDERestimate, due to bodies lying under the rubble produced by Israeli bombs and shells.
You haven't answered any of my questions
How many Hamas rapist murderers dead would be too many, in your view?
You forget that 1,000 of the Hamas Terrorists were actually killed by the IDF on 7/10 itself.
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
I thought you were in New York? In your answer to your own quiz?
I'm intrigued @Leon . I didn't answer it, unless I have been hacked.
Fair enough, maybe i was hallucinating during my ENORMOUS pilgrimage
Anyway i guessed Vegas so I guessed right so that means I guessed Vegas right and Zinfandel right and I WIN PB TODAY
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
And this is supposed to make you look good?
It is a good job I didn't post my third thought as otherwise @megasaur would have had kittens because it was along the lines of g strings and the need for dieting.
Hole, dig.
Similarly. Prat. Prude. Someone who doesn't understand a joke when he sees one. As I said get a life.
If you don't I understand the difference between a joke and real life you are really sad.
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
And this is supposed to make you look good?
It is a good job I didn't post my third thought as otherwise @megasaur would have had kittens because it was along the lines of g strings and the need for dieting.
Hole, dig.
That is what g-strings can do.
Not a thing I would expect a bloke to know. Unless you are a Freddieite?
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
And this is supposed to make you look good?
It is a good job I didn't post my third thought as otherwise @megasaur would have had kittens because it was along the lines of g strings and the need for dieting.
Hole, dig.
That is what g-strings can do.
Not a thing I would expect a bloke to know. Unless you are a Freddieite?
Would I call myself Boulay if I was a commoner from the People’s republic of Freddy’s? I was a C.
I’ve been given to understand by more tissue skinned PBers that my occasional barb has had a chilling effect on Scotch commentary on here. Certainly if there is one thing missing on PB it’s a surfeit of opinions on Scotland from those not governed by Scotland. I just want to make it clear that no one should feel restrained on making such comments just as I will feel free to describe them as I wish. Let free speech reign..
Did you never consider that your endlessly repeated McBarbarella of barbs, basically a short version of "what do you, a non Scot, know about Scotland, and how dare you pretend you do", might be a bit off-putting in the end?
Someone has a stone in their walking shoe today, no need to get your panties in a bunch
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
I thought you were in New York? In your answer to your own quiz?
I'm intrigued @Leon . I didn't answer it, unless I have been hacked.
Fair enough, maybe i was hallucinating during my ENORMOUS pilgrimage
Anyway i guessed Vegas so I guessed right so that means I guessed Vegas right and Zinfandel right and I WIN PB TODAY
Yep you guessed right, although it wasn't exactly mastermind stuff. Funnily enough the best part so far is seeing hummingbirds. Off to Death Valley tomorrow and the Grand Canyon later. I have booked the helicopter ride on your advice.
Although we often don't agree on the woke stuff the like of @megasaur could turn me. Honestly you can't even make a mildly inappropriate joke these days as far as some people are concerned.
Eurovision betting has seen a mild swing back. Croatia is again odds-on, and Israel back to 7/2 (still shorter than they started the day).
It would be wonderful is Israel win and then host the show in Gaza next year so all the Palestinian/Eurovision lovers can get a taste of the intolerance they are supporting. They love the usual Eurovision demographic in Gaza.
Indeed. Killing 35,000 Palestinians is pretty intolerant.
How many Hamas terrorists/rapists/murderers do you think it would be acceptable for Israel to kill?
And how many of their captive, innocent civilians do you think would be acceptable collateral in that context?
Or do you really believe that Israel should only go for about a thousand of them, in order to keep Sunal Jazeera's barchart roughly equal?
Even the US State Department believes the Hamas figures for dead and wounded are an UNDERestimate, due to bodies lying under the rubble produced by Israeli bombs and shells.
You haven't answered any of my questions
How many Hamas rapist murderers dead would be too many, in your view?
You forget that 1,000 of the Hamas Terrorists were actually killed by the IDF on 7/10 itself.
I didn't forget that
You just don't want to say how many Hamas rapists and murderers you'd want to save in that hypothetical situation
Because you think Israel killed enough of them before October 7th, according to your barchart
You think that Hamas's actions were perfectly proportionate, given the Israelis' previous brutality towards them
Or..
If you don't, answer the question
How many Hamas rapists and murderers is it acceptable for Israel to kill?
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
And this is supposed to make you look good?
It is a good job I didn't post my third thought as otherwise @megasaur would have had kittens because it was along the lines of g strings and the need for dieting.
Hole, dig.
Similarly. Prat. Prude. Someone who doesn't understand a joke when he sees one. As I said get a life.
If you don't I understand the difference between a joke and real life you are really sad.
Eurovision betting has seen a mild swing back. Croatia is again odds-on, and Israel back to 7/2 (still shorter than they started the day).
It would be wonderful is Israel win and then host the show in Gaza next year so all the Palestinian/Eurovision lovers can get a taste of the intolerance they are supporting. They love the usual Eurovision demographic in Gaza.
Indeed. Killing 35,000 Palestinians is pretty intolerant.
How many Hamas terrorists/rapists/murderers do you think it would be acceptable for Israel to kill?
And how many of their captive, innocent civilians do you think would be acceptable collateral in that context?
Or do you really believe that Israel should only go for about a thousand of them, in order to keep Sunal Jazeera's barchart roughly equal?
Even the US State Department believes the Hamas figures for dead and wounded are an UNDERestimate, due to bodies lying under the rubble produced by Israeli bombs and shells.
You haven't answered any of my questions
How many Hamas rapist murderers dead would be too many, in your view?
You forget that 1,000 of the Hamas Terrorists were actually killed by the IDF on 7/10 itself.
I didn't forget that
You just don't want to say how many Hamas rapists and murderers you'd want to save in that hypothetical situation
Because you think Israel killed enough of them before October 7th, according to your barchart
You think that Hamas's actions were perfectly proportionate, given the Israelis' previous brutality towards them
Or..
If you don't, answer the question
How many Hamas rapists and murderers is it acceptable for Israel to kill?
How many innocent Palestinians do you want Israel to kill?
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
I know that Zinfandel is actually Primitivo, but aren’t aware that it was ever thought to be unique to the New World.
The vines that actually are unique to the New World - which are actually a different grape genus from the one that makes all European wines - make disgusting wine, under such names as Norton and Concord, and were turned to by the early settlers when they failed to get European grape varieties to grow. If you were desperate for wine, you might settle for them, but they usually taste most peculiar indeed.
Interestingly, Primitivo/Zinfandel produced tons of cheap red plonk for the gold rush diggers, but afterwards was mostly forgotten about in the US. It was by accident that during the 1970s a wine maker’s fermentation went wrong, but he thought he might be able to sell the light pale wine he ended up with, and so the ‘White Zinfandel’ craze swept across the US, mirroring the craze for Mateus Rose in Europe, filling the same spot of bringing non-wine drinkers to a drink that could, just about, be considered as wine. That rescued the grape from obscurity and in later decades other US winemakers set about making serious red wines from it, as they’ve always been doing in the part of Italy where Leon is.
I find most “serious” primitivos too dark and dense. It is highly fashionable now but it’s not really for me. It also doesn’t especially suit the Mezzogiorno climate. Unless you are up in the gargano hills (as I am)
I’m also fairly immune to the charms of Zinfandel, for that matter
Of the classics I like a strong fruity Aussie Shiraz, one of the new argie malbecs, or a great Rhone valley blend
There speaks a drinker who knocks back a bottle without food.
The Italians around you know that wine is to be enjoyed with a meal, and the Italian styles of wine are almost always too acidic to drink when not eating.
Yes, probably true. Also I drink much MORE than them, they are such lightweights
Primitivo is not a classic Italian grape though. It’s lower acidity, higher sugar and alcohol and not really a food wine.
The acidic Italian red variety and style Ian is thinking of is Sangiovese, as are a few others like Montepulciano and Barbera, but Nebbiolo and Lagrein are fairly low acid and don’t need to be drunk with food either. Nor does Nero d’Avola, which I love (and is similar to Saperavi).
Oh plus Cannonau from Sardinia - good with or without food.
We Think find a YouGov style bounce and confirm the reform sink back trend
Labour up 3 points.
🔴 Lab 47% (+3) 🔵 Con 24% (NC) 🟠 LD 9% (+1) ⚪ Ref 10% (-3) 🟢 Green 6% (NC) 🟡 SNP 2% (NC)
Back in the day UKIP seemed to be something of a stepping stone for previously tribal Labour voters to vote Tory. Could something similar in reverse be happening with Reform?
I’ve been given to understand by more tissue skinned PBers that my occasional barb has had a chilling effect on Scotch commentary on here. Certainly if there is one thing missing on PB it’s a surfeit of opinions on Scotland from those not governed by Scotland. I just want to make it clear that no one should feel restrained on making such comments just as I will feel free to describe them as I wish. Let free speech reign..
Did you never consider that your endlessly repeated McBarbarella of barbs, basically a short version of "what do you, a non Scot, know about Scotland, and how dare you pretend you do", might be a bit off-putting in the end?
Someone has a stone in their walking shoe today, no need to get your panties in a bunch
I find yoondivvie's posts exceptionally tedious
Especially his pictures of randoms' tweets
He came on here with an ad hom about tissue skinned posters
I don't care if he calls me a Scotch Expert (I'd be quite flattered, given how much I enjoy a Single Malt)
But he was being a prick, and pricks need blunting
Eurovision betting has seen a mild swing back. Croatia is again odds-on, and Israel back to 7/2 (still shorter than they started the day).
It would be wonderful is Israel win and then host the show in Gaza next year so all the Palestinian/Eurovision lovers can get a taste of the intolerance they are supporting. They love the usual Eurovision demographic in Gaza.
Gaza is a pretty mess and Hamas are scum, but that's besides the point. You can stand opposed to the brutalisation of a people without endorsing the regime in charge of them.
If Israel is doing ethnic cleansing (and I don't intend to get into the weeds on this), then you're allowed to say that it's wrong without it being an endorsement of Hamas's genocidal aims.
You are correct, I’m just being a bit of an arse today. Hangover and all that.
It would be rather funny if she won (probably middle of the pack IMV) though as it will annoy exactly those who need to be annoyed and told where to go. I.e. not those who are making rational and justified criticisms of Israel's government and its actions, but those who think spitting bile-filled invective at a young Israeli woman such that she requires an armed escort is the way to get their point across and makes them the good guys.
It's always been a tragedy for the pro-Palestinian movement that its more rational wing can't separate itself from the antisemitic hatred and conspiracism of some of its loudest voices.
At the risk of being accused of Scotch Expertry by our resident social media policeman does this not reflect more the circumstances of his predecessor’s departure than the shortcomings of the incumbent?
Warning: this is from a notoriously pro-Putin account
Caveat: despite that, it is sometimes accurate. If this is true then Ukraine is in trouble
“The Ukrainian command is in a panic. The Russians gathered a force of 50,000 soldiers for the first wave of the offensive. It is obvious that after the first wave of attacks, there will be new ones. In total, it is planned that up to two hundred thousand soldiers will be deployed in the direction of Kharkiv by the end of this year. Everything depends on the success and progress of the Russian soldiers.”
Everything is ready for the offensive operation in Kharkiv.”
We Think find a YouGov style bounce and confirm the reform sink back trend
Labour up 3 points.
🔴 Lab 47% (+3) 🔵 Con 24% (NC) 🟠 LD 9% (+1) ⚪ Ref 10% (-3) 🟢 Green 6% (NC) 🟡 SNP 2% (NC)
Back in the day UKIP seemed to be something of a stepping stone for previously tribal Labour voters to vote Tory. Could something similar in reverse be happening with Reform?
Revealed: How the Tories blew the London mayoral election ... Tory party grandees and activists have admitted that a “negative” campaign, the lack of a “knockout” candidate and “ruthless” Labour targeting of Lib-Dem and Green voters made it impossible for Ms Hall to win. Other reasons included:-
The lack of a positive message. Infighting among candidates vying for the Tory mayoral nomination. A lack of campaign funds for Ms Hall and a “late” manifesto. Amateur “party apparatchiks” put in charge of the shortlisting of candidates. The failure to include Tory MP Paul Scully on the shortlist. The decision not to restart the search for a mayoral candidate. Making the Ulez central to Ms Hall’s campaign. Ms Hall being selected despite some MPs believing she was not good enough.
Erm...if you read it carefully, that is not backing for the "Rwanda Scheme" as it operates. The poll shows 55% support for asylum seekers being "removed to their home country or to a safe country, such as Rwanda". "Such as Rwanda" is doing a lot of work there
Well, a policy of removal is supported 55 to 22. I think we can assume given that Rwanda is specifically named that those polled are not opposed to the policy by the majority as given. There is a majority in favour of removal. Starmer today has not addressed that. As such, risky for him, but would want to see polling on 'flights versus Starmers plan' to see if it shifts the dial
99% of people won't have the first clue what Starmer's plan is. And it doesn't matter what it is - the average person doesn't follow that sort of detail.
In contrast, if a plane actually takes off to Rwanda on TV that is one of the few things that will cut through with the public.
Now my own view is it's still pretty unlikely a plane will take off to Rwanda pre General Election - because some Court somewhere will stop it or Civil Servants will all refuse to process people or whatever.
But at the same time, this does feel high risk for Starmer. Because if the unlikely event of a plane going were to happen that will cut through with the public. And if Starmer has said he will stop flights that would then be seriously damaging for him.
What are you talking about?
Starmer is going to use MI5 to stop them. *MI5*. And special super anti-terrorist powers.
Sir Harry Pearce KBE will no doubt watch things regularly whilst Tom Quinn mopes about Kent and the Pas de Calais looking intensely purposeful. A few extra Union Jacks will be flown about too for good measure.
We Think find a YouGov style bounce and confirm the reform sink back trend
Labour up 3 points.
🔴 Lab 47% (+3) 🔵 Con 24% (NC) 🟠 LD 9% (+1) ⚪ Ref 10% (-3) 🟢 Green 6% (NC) 🟡 SNP 2% (NC)
Back in the day UKIP seemed to be something of a stepping stone for previously tribal Labour voters to vote Tory. Could something similar in reverse be happening with Reform?
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
I know that Zinfandel is actually Primitivo, but aren’t aware that it was ever thought to be unique to the New World.
The vines that actually are unique to the New World - which are actually a different grape genus from the one that makes all European wines - make disgusting wine, under such names as Norton and Concord, and were turned to by the early settlers when they failed to get European grape varieties to grow. If you were desperate for wine, you might settle for them, but they usually taste most peculiar indeed.
Interestingly, Primitivo/Zinfandel produced tons of cheap red plonk for the gold rush diggers, but afterwards was mostly forgotten about in the US. It was by accident that during the 1970s a wine maker’s fermentation went wrong, but he thought he might be able to sell the light pale wine he ended up with, and so the ‘White Zinfandel’ craze swept across the US, mirroring the craze for Mateus Rose in Europe, filling the same spot of bringing non-wine drinkers to a drink that could, just about, be considered as wine. That rescued the grape from obscurity and in later decades other US winemakers set about making serious red wines from it, as they’ve always been doing in the part of Italy where Leon is.
I find most “serious” primitivos too dark and dense. It is highly fashionable now but it’s not really for me. It also doesn’t especially suit the Mezzogiorno climate. Unless you are up in the gargano hills (as I am)
I’m also fairly immune to the charms of Zinfandel, for that matter
Of the classics I like a strong fruity Aussie Shiraz, one of the new argie malbecs, or a great Rhone valley blend
There speaks a drinker who knocks back a bottle without food.
The Italians around you know that wine is to be enjoyed with a meal, and the Italian styles of wine are almost always too acidic to drink when not eating.
Erm...if you read it carefully, that is not backing for the "Rwanda Scheme" as it operates. The poll shows 55% support for asylum seekers being "removed to their home country or to a safe country, such as Rwanda". "Such as Rwanda" is doing a lot of work there
Well, a policy of removal is supported 55 to 22. I think we can assume given that Rwanda is specifically named that those polled are not opposed to the policy by the majority as given. There is a majority in favour of removal. Starmer today has not addressed that. As such, risky for him, but would want to see polling on 'flights versus Starmers plan' to see if it shifts the dial
99% of people won't have the first clue what Starmer's plan is. And it doesn't matter what it is - the average person doesn't follow that sort of detail.
In contrast, if a plane actually takes off to Rwanda on TV that is one of the few things that will cut through with the public.
Now my own view is it's still pretty unlikely a plane will take off to Rwanda pre General Election - because some Court somewhere will stop it or Civil Servants will all refuse to process people or whatever.
But at the same time, this does feel high risk for Starmer. Because if the unlikely event of a plane going were to happen that will cut through with the public. And if Starmer has said he will stop flights that would then be seriously damaging for him.
What are you talking about?
Starmer is going to use MI5 to stop them. *MI5*. And special super anti-terrorist powers.
Sir Harry Pearce KBE will no doubt watch things regularly whilst Tom Quinn mopes about Kent and the Pas de Calais looking intensely purposeful. A few extra Union Jacks will be flown about too for good measure.
It will turn the tide.
It's pathetic. 'Set the police on them' is his solution. Silly turd.
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
And this is supposed to make you look good?
It is a good job I didn't post my third thought as otherwise @megasaur would have had kittens because it was along the lines of g strings and the need for dieting.
Hole, dig.
Similarly. Prat. Prude. Someone who doesn't understand a joke when he sees one. As I said get a life.
If you don't I understand the difference between a joke and real life you are really sad.
You are in a foreign country. You have identified two young women as prostitutes because they are young women, and you are fantasizing about intrusively questioning them about their mothers and their skin decoration. Thank god for normal blokes like you and I wish there were more like you
We Think find a YouGov style bounce and confirm the reform sink back trend
Labour up 3 points.
🔴 Lab 47% (+3) 🔵 Con 24% (NC) 🟠 LD 9% (+1) ⚪ Ref 10% (-3) 🟢 Green 6% (NC) 🟡 SNP 2% (NC)
Back in the day UKIP seemed to be something of a stepping stone for previously tribal Labour voters to vote Tory. Could something similar in reverse be happening with Reform?
That. Is actually. A very intriguing thought.
So people go Con > Ref > Lab ??
Possible, if people thought that Conservatives are just incompetent but Labour were too socialist and Starmer's convinced them that Labour are centrist enough to be safe to vote for. That would certainly be Starmer's hope.
We've already seen lots of people, particularly in the South West who moved directly from Lib Dem to UKIP so Reform to Labour doesn't seem unrealistic.
Erm...if you read it carefully, that is not backing for the "Rwanda Scheme" as it operates. The poll shows 55% support for asylum seekers being "removed to their home country or to a safe country, such as Rwanda". "Such as Rwanda" is doing a lot of work there
Well, a policy of removal is supported 55 to 22. I think we can assume given that Rwanda is specifically named that those polled are not opposed to the policy by the majority as given. There is a majority in favour of removal. Starmer today has not addressed that. As such, risky for him, but would want to see polling on 'flights versus Starmers plan' to see if it shifts the dial
99% of people won't have the first clue what Starmer's plan is. And it doesn't matter what it is - the average person doesn't follow that sort of detail.
In contrast, if a plane actually takes off to Rwanda on TV that is one of the few things that will cut through with the public.
Now my own view is it's still pretty unlikely a plane will take off to Rwanda pre General Election - because some Court somewhere will stop it or Civil Servants will all refuse to process people or whatever.
But at the same time, this does feel high risk for Starmer. Because if the unlikely event of a plane going were to happen that will cut through with the public. And if Starmer has said he will stop flights that would then be seriously damaging for him.
What are you talking about?
Starmer is going to use MI5 to stop them. *MI5*. And special super anti-terrorist powers.
Sir Harry Pearce KBE will no doubt watch things regularly whilst Tom Quinn mopes about Kent and the Pas de Calais looking intensely purposeful. A few extra Union Jacks will be flown about too for good measure.
The owner of the AirBnB I’ve been in this week, which is a house by a lake surrounded by a few fields (which you could see at the bottom of the photo I posted this morning taken from up on the hill), has just dropped by to give me a bottle of sparking, by way of goodbye, since I move on tomorrow.
Since we’ve had a guy out in his tractor all day ploughing the fields around the house, I ask her what crop they’ll be planting, thinking it will be some edible vegetable, since the soil here looks very good. She said it will be flowers for the bees. After a bit of back and forth in my intermediate Italian, I establish that they don’t actually have any bees, but are doing it for the general good of those in the area that do. Isn’t that remarkable? That guy’s been working all day, and presumably will be out another day sowing seed, and there’s no financial payback at all (unless somehow the beekeepers are paying them to do this?).
Too modest, Ian. You can't have a conversation about the bio-economy as it pertains to bees in "intermediate" Italian.
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
I know that Zinfandel is actually Primitivo, but aren’t aware that it was ever thought to be unique to the New World.
The vines that actually are unique to the New World - which are actually a different grape genus from the one that makes all European wines - make disgusting wine, under such names as Norton and Concord, and were turned to by the early settlers when they failed to get European grape varieties to grow. If you were desperate for wine, you might settle for them, but they usually taste most peculiar indeed.
Interestingly, Primitivo/Zinfandel produced tons of cheap red plonk for the gold rush diggers, but afterwards was mostly forgotten about in the US. It was by accident that during the 1970s a wine maker’s fermentation went wrong, but he thought he might be able to sell the light pale wine he ended up with, and so the ‘White Zinfandel’ craze swept across the US, mirroring the craze for Mateus Rose in Europe, filling the same spot of bringing non-wine drinkers to a drink that could, just about, be considered as wine. That rescued the grape from obscurity and in later decades other US winemakers set about making serious red wines from it, as they’ve always been doing in the part of Italy where Leon is.
I find most “serious” primitivos too dark and dense. It is highly fashionable now but it’s not really for me. It also doesn’t especially suit the Mezzogiorno climate. Unless you are up in the gargano hills (as I am)
I’m also fairly immune to the charms of Zinfandel, for that matter
Of the classics I like a strong fruity Aussie Shiraz, one of the new argie malbecs, or a great Rhone valley blend
There speaks a drinker who knocks back a bottle without food.
The Italians around you know that wine is to be enjoyed with a meal, and the Italian styles of wine are almost always too acidic to drink when not eating.
Yes, probably true. Also I drink much MORE than them, they are such lightweights
They certainly weigh less, on average. And live longer.
Warning: this is from a notoriously pro-Putin account
Caveat: despite that, it is sometimes accurate. If this is true then Ukraine is in trouble
“The Ukrainian command is in a panic. The Russians gathered a force of 50,000 soldiers for the first wave of the offensive. It is obvious that after the first wave of attacks, there will be new ones. In total, it is planned that up to two hundred thousand soldiers will be deployed in the direction of Kharkiv by the end of this year. Everything depends on the success and progress of the Russian soldiers.”
Everything is ready for the offensive operation in Kharkiv.”
Oh, I'm sure that's correct. Russia is massing its forces for an all attack, and to capture Kharkov.
The thing is, so far massed attacks - from both sides - have been horrendously costly for the attackers. Whenever Ukraine has tried to go on the offensive, even with modern Western tanks, they've failed. And when Russia has throw massive troops at an offensive, they've taken terrible casualties. Just like in the First World War, if you dig in, you're very difficult to overrrun.
If Russia breaks the mold this time, and successfully takes Kharkov, it's possible Ukraine folds. It's also possible that Russia will find themselves taking terrible casualties and having "shot their bolt". Where are the next 200,000 troops for Russia if this offensive only captures a few tens of miles of territory?
Yes, fair
The appearance of a solitary T34 at the May Day parade because Russia has “run out of tanks” is not a good sign either - if it is true, which we do now know
Perhaps most interesting about this tweet is that it implies Russia really is committed to winning this war, does not want peace, and will lose 500,000 men to do it. What a grotesque tragedy in all departments. A million could die in this fatuous war
The question then is, are we committed to winning this war? The more we spend, the more ammunition we produce, the more advanced weapon systems we manufacture, the greater the chance that Ukraine wins, and that Ukraine wins with fewer casualties.
Putin and Russia are showing that they are prepared to fight a war of conquest at any price. The West is looking somewhat unwilling to spend 0.x% of GDP to support a fellow democracy in fighting an existential defensive war.
The conclusion that China will draw about Western unwillingness to defend our freedom is obvious, and the consequences severe.
I don't think this is going to turn out well. The West doesn't have a strategy for victory, and so it is going to lose.
We Think find a YouGov style bounce and confirm the reform sink back trend
Labour up 3 points.
🔴 Lab 47% (+3) 🔵 Con 24% (NC) 🟠 LD 9% (+1) ⚪ Ref 10% (-3) 🟢 Green 6% (NC) 🟡 SNP 2% (NC)
Back in the day UKIP seemed to be something of a stepping stone for previously tribal Labour voters to vote Tory. Could something similar in reverse be happening with Reform?
Eurovision betting has seen a mild swing back. Croatia is again odds-on, and Israel back to 7/2 (still shorter than they started the day).
It would be wonderful is Israel win and then host the show in Gaza next year so all the Palestinian/Eurovision lovers can get a taste of the intolerance they are supporting. They love the usual Eurovision demographic in Gaza.
Indeed. Killing 35,000 Palestinians is pretty intolerant.
How many Hamas terrorists/rapists/murderers do you think it would be acceptable for Israel to kill?
And how many of their captive, innocent civilians do you think would be acceptable collateral in that context?
Or do you really believe that Israel should only go for about a thousand of them, in order to keep Sunal Jazeera's barchart roughly equal?
Even the US State Department believes the Hamas figures for dead and wounded are an UNDERestimate, due to bodies lying under the rubble produced by Israeli bombs and shells.
You haven't answered any of my questions
How many Hamas rapist murderers dead would be too many, in your view?
You forget that 1,000 of the Hamas Terrorists were actually killed by the IDF on 7/10 itself.
I didn't forget that
You just don't want to say how many Hamas rapists and murderers you'd want to save in that hypothetical situation
Because you think Israel killed enough of them before October 7th, according to your barchart
You think that Hamas's actions were perfectly proportionate, given the Israelis' previous brutality towards them
Or..
If you don't, answer the question
How many Hamas rapists and murderers is it acceptable for Israel to kill?
How many innocent Palestinians do you want Israel to kill?
Define an "innocent Palestinian"
Does that include Palestinians whose wish is for their children to become "martyrs"?
Because there are a fuck load of those there
And again, you avoid the question
Fuck off with your stupid fucking barcharts / number comparisons of deaths
Revealed: How the Tories blew the London mayoral election ... Tory party grandees and activists have admitted that a “negative” campaign, the lack of a “knockout” candidate and “ruthless” Labour targeting of Lib-Dem and Green voters made it impossible for Ms Hall to win. Other reasons included:-
The lack of a positive message. Infighting among candidates vying for the Tory mayoral nomination. A lack of campaign funds for Ms Hall and a “late” manifesto. Amateur “party apparatchiks” put in charge of the shortlisting of candidates. The failure to include Tory MP Paul Scully on the shortlist. The decision not to restart the search for a mayoral candidate. Making the Ulez central to Ms Hall’s campaign. Ms Hall being selected despite some MPs believing she was not good enough.
I’ll help. These are runic inscriptions. Yes RUNES. But who wrote them and why?
If you’re into history it’s a fabulously surprising answer
Here’s another one. There are several. Nullifico googlissimi!
THat's much clearer - I did wonder about runes but thought it's some prat called Hurrell or Hurren.
They'll be Danes or Orcadians en route to the Holy Land, and doing a bit if sightseeing/allying/plundering en route. Wonder if it's the same lot as in the Orkneyinga Saga, which is partly about just such an adventure holiday? It's a long time since I read i t, so no idea if the places match up. But you won't let me google.
Close but no cigarillo
The answer surprised me completely. 7th century
No googling it ruins the fun
Ok here’s a big clue. The first one looks less obviously runic - as you noticed. That’s because it incorporates Roman lettering styles albeit it is in runes… oooooh
Too early for the Norse. Visigoths, then?
Very good guesses but no
Incredibly - to me - these five runic inscriptions are five Anglo Saxons from England in the 7th century. Leofwin, Herraed, Hereberehct, etc. I wasn’t aware Anglo Saxons ever used runes? Apparently they did: it is thought these five men were Anglo Saxon churchmen working - at least temporarily - in the shrine. Some had training in Latin as well, it is thought, hence the Romaniaed runes
The 7th century!!! England would still have been partly pagan back then. And these men would have called themselves… what? Jutes? Saxons? Kentish?
Anglo Saxon runes are available free at Ruthwell (I was there a fortnight ago) on the Scottish side of the Solway just beyond Annan. This astonishing cross has not only magnificent sculptures but also a variant text in Runic script of lines 39-64 of the Dream of the Rood, one of the greatest of the Anglo Saxon poems (I read English so long ago that we had to study it in the original).
Less noomy than its sister cross at Bewcastle, but both are unmissable.
Yes Anglo Saxons used runes.
I did medieval history A Level with an emphasis on England from 400-1066 so I don’t know why I forgot that Anglo Saxons used runes. I’ve always wanted to see those crosses!
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
Wine quiz, but I’m sure you already know the answer.
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
I know that Zinfandel is actually Primitivo, but aren’t aware that it was ever thought to be unique to the New World.
The vines that actually are unique to the New World - which are actually a different grape genus from the one that makes all European wines - make disgusting wine, under such names as Norton and Concord, and were turned to by the early settlers when they failed to get European grape varieties to grow. If you were desperate for wine, you might settle for them, but they usually taste most peculiar indeed.
Interestingly, Primitivo/Zinfandel produced tons of cheap red plonk for the gold rush diggers, but afterwards was mostly forgotten about in the US. It was by accident that during the 1970s a wine maker’s fermentation went wrong, but he thought he might be able to sell the light pale wine he ended up with, and so the ‘White Zinfandel’ craze swept across the US, mirroring the craze for Mateus Rose in Europe, filling the same spot of bringing non-wine drinkers to a drink that could, just about, be considered as wine. That rescued the grape from obscurity and in later decades other US winemakers set about making serious red wines from it, as they’ve always been doing in the part of Italy where Leon is.
I find most “serious” primitivos too dark and dense. It is highly fashionable now but it’s not really for me. It also doesn’t especially suit the Mezzogiorno climate. Unless you are up in the gargano hills (as I am)
I’m also fairly immune to the charms of Zinfandel, for that matter
Of the classics I like a strong fruity Aussie Shiraz, one of the new argie malbecs, or a great Rhone valley blend
There speaks a drinker who knocks back a bottle without food.
The Italians around you know that wine is to be enjoyed with a meal, and the Italian styles of wine are almost always too acidic to drink when not eating.
Yes, probably true. Also I drink much MORE than them, they are such lightweights
Primitivo is not a classic Italian grape though. It’s lower acidity, higher sugar and alcohol and not really a food wine.
The acidic Italian red variety and style Ian is thinking of is Sangiovese, as are a few others like Montepulciano and Barbera, but Nebbiolo and Lagrein are fairly low acid and don’t need to be drunk with food either. Nor does Nero d’Avola, which I love (and is similar to Saperavi).
Oh plus Cannonau from Sardinia - good with or without food.
Primitivo made well is medium to high acidity, and does normally demand a good meal to go with it.
Neither Nebbiolo nor Lagrein are low acid.
Cannonau is just the local name for Grenache, or Garnacha, probably the most widely planted red grape in the world that produces tons of Spanish and southern French plonk.
Only in Vegas. While having breakfast we witness Elvis on mobility scooter meeting two showgirls (that is being polite) and having a chat.
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
And this is supposed to make you look good?
It is a good job I didn't post my third thought as otherwise @megasaur would have had kittens because it was along the lines of g strings and the need for dieting.
Hole, dig.
Similarly. Prat. Prude. Someone who doesn't understand a joke when he sees one. As I said get a life.
If you don't I understand the difference between a joke and real life you are really sad.
Eurovision betting has seen a mild swing back. Croatia is again odds-on, and Israel back to 7/2 (still shorter than they started the day).
It would be wonderful is Israel win and then host the show in Gaza next year so all the Palestinian/Eurovision lovers can get a taste of the intolerance they are supporting. They love the usual Eurovision demographic in Gaza.
Indeed. Killing 35,000 Palestinians is pretty intolerant.
How many Hamas terrorists/rapists/murderers do you think it would be acceptable for Israel to kill?
And how many of their captive, innocent civilians do you think would be acceptable collateral in that context?
Or do you really believe that Israel should only go for about a thousand of them, in order to keep Sunal Jazeera's barchart roughly equal?
Even the US State Department believes the Hamas figures for dead and wounded are an UNDERestimate, due to bodies lying under the rubble produced by Israeli bombs and shells.
You haven't answered any of my questions
How many Hamas rapist murderers dead would be too many, in your view?
You forget that 1,000 of the Hamas Terrorists were actually killed by the IDF on 7/10 itself.
I didn't forget that
You just don't want to say how many Hamas rapists and murderers you'd want to save in that hypothetical situation
Because you think Israel killed enough of them before October 7th, according to your barchart
You think that Hamas's actions were perfectly proportionate, given the Israelis' previous brutality towards them
Or..
If you don't, answer the question
How many Hamas rapists and murderers is it acceptable for Israel to kill?
How many innocent Palestinians do you want Israel to kill?
Define an "innocent Palestinian"
Does that include Palestinians whose wish is for their children to become "martyrs"?
Because there are a fuck load of those there
And again, you avoid the question
Fuck off with your stupid fucking barcharts / number comparisons of deaths
Hamas are an evil fucking death cult
My definition of an innocent Palestinian is someone who has never hurt an Israeli, otherwise known as a non-combatant, what's yours?
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Since we’ve had a guy out in his tractor all day ploughing the fields around the house, I ask her what crop they’ll be planting, thinking it will be some edible vegetable, since the soil here looks very good. She said it will be flowers for the bees. After a bit of back and forth in my intermediate Italian, I establish that they don’t actually have any bees, but are doing it for the general good of those in the area that do. Isn’t that remarkable? That guy’s been working all day, and presumably will be out another day sowing seed, and there’s no financial payback at all (unless somehow the beekeepers are paying them to do this?).
Proved (somehow) to have spent his childhood in the Alps
I think there have been serious walkers about for millennia
And agreed, trainers are for physical exercise and are totally inelegant otherwise and reflect the enshitification of style and infantilisation of adults’ dress.
But somehow I forgot. And yet today I was reminded in - of all places - a 1500 year old Christian shrine in southern Italy. I love travel
And now peace; perfect peace. And a glass of primitivo
The Labour OUT! Campaign has begun already
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Coryat
And I think this is the book title Leon missed out on.
“ Coryat's Crudities: Hastily gobled up in Five Moneth's Travels”
Will Hutton
@williamnhutton
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5h
Trump to lose - my ( high risk ) view discussing This Time No Mistakes audio version with Alastair Campbell
@campbellclaret
https://twitter.com/williamnhutton/status/1788900186938388774
God bless the walkers of the world. They are nearly always nice people - walkers. Maybe sometimes a bit gauche or shy or twee - but nice. Can’t say the same for drivers and cyclists
What popular grape variety was thought for decades to be unique to a small area of the New World but actually turns out to be Primitivo?
My first thoughts if I spoke to them would be along the lines of does your mother know you dress like this and what made you think that tattoo was a good idea?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Runestone
Fuck. Hmm. Tricky. Zinfandel?
Edit to add: it doesn’t taste like primitivo tho. And I’ve no idea if Zinfandel is a new world grape
Otherwise I’d go for pinotage but I always thought that was an unpleasant invention of the saffers
I remember the OTHER PB Tim - also in wine - describing pinotage as tasting like “burnt condoms” and he had a point
The vines that actually are unique to the New World - which are actually a different grape genus from the one that makes all European wines - make disgusting wine, under such names as Norton and Concord, and were turned to by the early settlers when they failed to get European grape varieties to grow. If you were desperate for wine, you might settle for them, but they usually taste most peculiar indeed.
Interestingly, Primitivo/Zinfandel produced tons of cheap red plonk for the gold rush diggers, but afterwards was mostly forgotten about in the US. It was by accident that during the 1970s a wine maker’s fermentation went wrong, but he thought he might be able to sell the light pale wine he ended up with, and so the ‘White Zinfandel’ craze swept across the US, mirroring the craze for Mateus Rose in Europe, filling the same spot of bringing non-wine drinkers to a drink that could, just about, be considered as wine. That rescued the grape from obscurity and in later decades other US winemakers set about making serious red wines from it, as they’ve always been doing in the part of Italy where Leon is.
Caveat: despite that, it is sometimes accurate. If this is true then Ukraine is in trouble
“The Ukrainian command is in a panic. The Russians gathered a force of 50,000 soldiers for the first wave of the offensive. It is obvious that after the first wave of attacks, there will be new ones. In total, it is planned that up to two hundred thousand soldiers will be deployed in the direction of Kharkiv by the end of this year. Everything depends on the success and progress of the Russian soldiers.”
Everything is ready for the offensive operation in Kharkiv.”
https://x.com/sprinter00000/status/1788983793455436184?s=46
I’m also fairly immune to the charms of Zinfandel, for that matter
Of the classics I like a strong fruity Aussie Shiraz, one of the new argie malbecs, or a great Rhone valley blend
The thing is, so far massed attacks - from both sides - have been horrendously costly for the attackers. Whenever Ukraine has tried to go on the offensive, even with modern Western tanks, they've failed. And when Russia has throw massive troops at an offensive, they've taken terrible casualties. Just like in the First World War, if you dig in, you're very difficult to overrrun.
If Russia breaks the mold this time, and successfully takes Kharkov, it's possible Ukraine folds. It's also possible that Russia will find themselves taking terrible casualties and having "shot their bolt". Where are the next 200,000 troops for Russia if this offensive only captures a few tens of miles of territory?
And how many of their captive, innocent civilians do you think would be acceptable collateral in that context?
Or do you really believe that Israel should only go for about a thousand of them, in order to keep Sunal Jazeera's barchart roughly equal?
I’m a Scooch Expert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT6yOIC6ihI&t=58s
To Ian’s point on native varieties it was never thought to be a native North American vine (vitis riparia) but assumed to be an obscure vinifera grape that nobody grew in the old world.
The Italians around you know that wine is to be enjoyed with a meal, and the Italian styles of wine are almost always too acidic to drink when not eating.
Anyway i guessed Vegas so I guessed right so that means I guessed Vegas right and Zinfandel right and I WIN PB TODAY
How many Hamas rapist murderers dead would be too many, in your view?
The appearance of a solitary T34 at the May Day parade because Russia has “run out of tanks” is not a good sign either - if it is true, which we do now know
Perhaps most interesting about this tweet is that it implies Russia really is committed to winning this war, does not want peace, and will lose 500,000 men to do it. What a grotesque tragedy in all departments. A million could die in this fatuous war
In contrast, if a plane actually takes off to Rwanda on TV that is one of the few things that will cut through with the public.
Now my own view is it's still pretty unlikely a plane will take off to Rwanda pre General Election - because some Court somewhere will stop it or Civil Servants will all refuse to process people or whatever.
But at the same time, this does feel high risk for Starmer. Because if the unlikely event of a plane going were to happen that will cut through with the public. And if Starmer has said he will stop flights that would then be seriously damaging for him.
Yes, probably true. Also I drink much MORE than them, they are such lightweights
If you don't I understand the difference between a joke and real life you are really sad.
Although we often don't agree on the woke stuff the like of @megasaur could turn me. Honestly you can't even make a mildly inappropriate joke these days as far as some people are concerned.
A Labour government fills me with nothing but horror.
Horror.
You just don't want to say how many Hamas rapists and murderers you'd want to save in that hypothetical situation
Because you think Israel killed enough of them before October 7th, according to your barchart
You think that Hamas's actions were perfectly proportionate, given the Israelis' previous brutality towards them
Or..
If you don't, answer the question
How many Hamas rapists and murderers is it acceptable for Israel to kill?
The acidic Italian red variety and style Ian is thinking of is Sangiovese, as are a few others like Montepulciano and Barbera, but Nebbiolo and Lagrein are fairly low acid and don’t need to be drunk with food either. Nor does Nero d’Avola, which I love (and is similar to Saperavi).
Oh plus Cannonau from Sardinia - good with or without food.
Especially his pictures of randoms' tweets
He came on here with an ad hom about tissue skinned posters
I don't care if he calls me a Scotch Expert (I'd be quite flattered, given how much I enjoy a Single Malt)
But he was being a prick, and pricks need blunting
It's always been a tragedy for the pro-Palestinian movement that its more rational wing can't separate itself from the antisemitic hatred and conspiracism of some of its loudest voices.
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Tory party grandees and activists have admitted that a “negative” campaign, the lack of a “knockout” candidate and “ruthless” Labour targeting of Lib-Dem and Green voters made it impossible for Ms Hall to win. Other reasons included:-
The lack of a positive message.
Infighting among candidates vying for the Tory mayoral nomination.
A lack of campaign funds for Ms Hall and a “late” manifesto.
Amateur “party apparatchiks” put in charge of the shortlisting of candidates.
The failure to include Tory MP Paul Scully on the shortlist.
The decision not to restart the search for a mayoral candidate.
Making the Ulez central to Ms Hall’s campaign.
Ms Hall being selected despite some MPs believing she was not good enough.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/london-mayoral-election-what-went-wrong-susan-hall-conservatives-sadiq-khan-victory-b1156913.html
Starmer is going to use MI5 to stop them. *MI5*. And special super anti-terrorist powers.
Sir Harry Pearce KBE will no doubt watch things regularly whilst Tom Quinn mopes about Kent and the Pas de Calais looking intensely purposeful. A few extra Union Jacks will be flown about too for good measure.
It will turn the tide.
https://x.com/saulstaniforth/status/1788960736795856937?s=46&t=fJymV-V84rexmlQMLXHHJQ
We've already seen lots of people, particularly in the South West who moved directly from Lib Dem to UKIP so Reform to Labour doesn't seem unrealistic.
Putin and Russia are showing that they are prepared to fight a war of conquest at any price. The West is looking somewhat unwilling to spend 0.x% of GDP to support a fellow democracy in fighting an existential defensive war.
The conclusion that China will draw about Western unwillingness to defend our freedom is obvious, and the consequences severe.
I don't think this is going to turn out well. The West doesn't have a strategy for victory, and so it is going to lose.
Does that include Palestinians whose wish is for their children to become "martyrs"?
Because there are a fuck load of those there
And again, you avoid the question
Fuck off with your stupid fucking barcharts / number comparisons of deaths
Hamas are an evil fucking death cult
Neither Nebbiolo nor Lagrein are low acid.
Cannonau is just the local name for Grenache, or Garnacha, probably the most widely planted red grape in the world that produces tons of Spanish and southern French plonk.