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  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,633
    kle4 said:

    Saturday. Blame Swindon, who have a 1/3 election to count tomorrow.

    For those looking for wider implications, Swindon has been pretty swingy over the years, and last year the Tories got annihilated and lost nearly all the seats that were up and Labour gained control for the first time in about 20 years. With another dozen and more Tory seats up this time, expect a big shift to Labour again.
    I can’t blame Swindon - I was born there…
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,302

    I don't put it past Johnson to have done it as a deliberate stunt, in part to disarm criticism of the move as a vote suppression tactic. It hardly looks like the work of an evil mastermind when he's caught out by it himself.
    Your argument falls down on the point that it would require planning and organisation by Johnson.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,633
    Foxy said:

    I think it reasonable to ask them to prove that they are a police constable or a polling officer, but I wouldn't expect to see personal ID. That would potentially open people up to interference.
    So maybe my question was wrong - could they show me evidence that they were authorised to ask for my ID?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,688
    edited May 2024
    tlg86 said:
    Is Putin on the board of Boeing?
  • megasaurmegasaur Posts: 586
    ydoethur said:

    Both.
    Ok that's bad.
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    edited May 2024
    No, he fell out a fire door that wasn't secured properly.

    EDIT: I'm off on a work trip in just over three weeks on two 787s, a 737-NG and a MAX8 so yeah. I might come back.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,633
    GIN1138 said:

    Apparently things were even falling off from the ceiling yesterday?

    Whoever is in charge of this project needs to be fired.
    I assume the venue has a safety certificate, like footy stadiums etc. So quite how they were able to very nearly open yesterday and at the same time have air conditioning falling off the ceiling boggles the mind.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,681
    boulay said:

    That will be where I got the inspiration to buy the album from in 2010 when it came out. Thanks for the tip.
    I admit the only song I've rediscovered today is another Miss Eclectech, which is a moderately rude send up of I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, set in a Petting Zoo. I think I posted a different one the other day.

    This is now a 20 year old flash animation - 2004.
    https://eclectech.co.uk/nonsense/pettingzoo
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,633
    Andy_JS said:

    "John Cleese cut N-word from Fawlty Towers revival because people ‘don’t understand irony’
    Speaking at launch for West End adaptation, Cleese complains about literal-minded viewers ‘not playing with a full deck’"

    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/article/2024/may/02/john-cleese-cut-n-word-from-fawlty-towers-revival-because-people-dont-understand-irony

    Also known as the Alf Garnett problem.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,860
    edited May 2024
    tlg86 said:
    They’re dropping like flies Boeings.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,867
    edited May 2024
    kle4 said:

    The 'last government' excuse can usually be made to work for a good 2 terms I think. Brown trying it after 13 years was a step too far, and Tories will have no luck if they try it after 14.
    Depends how bad things get and whether it can be directly pinned on the new government or not.

    I'm sure when Labour went to MFI for a bailout in '76 they probably tried to pin it on Heath's government, perhaps with some success?

    But when the Winter Of Discontent came along there was no one else they could pin the blame on...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,575
    OnboardG1 said:

    Ah yes, the old man yells at cloud story for the day.
    For Fawlty Towers it was two whole series.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,575

    They’re dropping like flies Boeings.
    Lethality to the Max?
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    An hour to go, All the psychos start thinking about voting now
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,575

    An hour to go, All the psychos start thinking about voting now

    I thought Johnson went to vote earlier?
  • legatuslegatus Posts: 126
    edited May 2024

    I have wondered about why that should have been a shock.

    The London local elections only a few weeks earlier still showed an 11% Conservative lead over Labour.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970_Greater_London_Council_election

    I have wondered about why that should have been a shock.

    The London local elections only a few weeks earlier still showed an 11% Conservative lead over Labour.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970_Greater_London_Council_election
    Well the GLC and County Council elections held in April 1970 were not particularly encouraging for Labour - though the party did make gains at the GLC compared with their landslide defeat in 1967 and gained control of the Inner London Education Authority ILEA - which corresponded to the former LCC area. A few weeks later on May 7th Labour made unexpectedly big gains at the Urban and Borough electios - reversing their 1967 losses. A week later Gallup recorded a Labour lead of 7.5% - followed by other smaller Labour leads from various pollsters. Election speculation exploded and Wilson announced the GE on May 18th to be held on June 18th. It turned out to be Wilson's Waterloo!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    ydoethur said:

    I thought Johnson went to vote earlier?
    My apologies! Most of them
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,698
    Foxy said:

    my local LD councillors are pro-building, so not that unusual. They just want the developments to be well designed for transport and include low cost housing. The NIMBYS are pretty much apolitical, at least in a party sense.
    Why would the LibDems want low cost housing on new developments? Their middle class voters buying the executive homes won't want a load of chaos living across the street. Vote loser.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,633

    An hour to go, All the psychos start thinking about voting now

    I’m not sure we are heading for long queues outside the polling stations as desperate voters try to cast their vote…
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,575
    legatus said:

    Well the GLC and County Council elections held in April 1970 were not particularly encouraging for Labour - thoug the party did make gains at the GLC compared with their landslide defeat in 1967 and gained control of the Inner London Education Authority ILEA - which corresponded to the former LCC area. A few weeks later on May 4th Labour made unexpectedly big gains at the Urban and Borough electios - reversing their 1967 losses. A week later Gallup recorded a Labour lead of 7.5% - followed by other smaller Labour leads from various pollsters. Election speculation exploded and Wilson announced the GE on May 18th to be held on June 18th. It turned out to be Wilson's Waterloo!
    He should not have tried to make La Haye, even though the Sun shone.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    nico679 said:

    I can’t be arsed with it. Too much drama to get into , the Metro is a total dump and nothing like the London Underground where I’ve never felt unsafe . From afar Paris looks beautiful and there will be some iconic settings for the Olympic events . The Parisians though are generally stuck up and no one outside of Paris likes them .

    I had a place close to the Pyrenees not far from Lourdes and the people were just lovely . I also had many French friends when I lived in London and they said it was far superior and much more laid back than Paris .
    Interesting, and thankyou

    To my mind Paris has a sinister edge almost entirely absent in London. It's not as simple as "Paris is more violent" - I'm not remotely sure it is. It's more to do with native Gallic rudeness mixing unhappily with high levels of migration, from certain quite attitudinal areas - the Maghreb in particular

    You get this weird surliness which pervades, tho outbreaks of smiley friendliness can leaven it, but not often enough

    That was my main impression when I returned home today. London is jollier, and cheerier, even tho Paris is much more beautiful

    But before I start cheer eading for London I have to say, again, that I think levels of migration are now so high we are destined for some brutal hard right governments, right across Europe (Britain likely included) unless we see a remarkable turnaround

    [insert AI clause here: as in: none of this applies if AI changes the world, as it well might]
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061

    I’m not sure we are heading for long queues outside the polling stations as desperate voters try to cast their vote…
    Vote late vote often!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,601

    I assume the venue has a safety certificate, like footy stadiums etc. So quite how they were able to very nearly open yesterday and at the same time have air conditioning falling off the ceiling boggles the mind.
    Never underestimate the frequency and depth of incompetence that can be found on any complex matter.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,580
    edited May 2024

    I assume the venue has a safety certificate, like footy stadiums etc. So quite how they were able to very nearly open yesterday and at the same time have air conditioning falling off the ceiling boggles the mind.
    You’d think after all the deliberations over Arena that the licensing Authorities in Manchester would have been more ‘controlling’!
    They come across as disorganised and casual.
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,080
    Yes we Khan!

    Voted Green for the London Assembly top up.

    How much will the Tory filth poll here?
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,078

    Any word on your efforts on behalf of the Sudanese and others?
    I donate to Red Cross Red Crescent.

    https://www.redcross.org.uk/about-us/what-we-do/international/sudan#:~:text=Our emergency response is being,the conflict from day one.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,302
    Leon said:
    Why would China kill a Boeing whistleblower?
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,531
    ohnotnow said:

    What about low-earning but highly skilled migrants? We have Phd's who graduate and are being made to leave as they haven't found a high-paid job in time.
    Highly skilled in what ?

    Obviously not in finding themselves a job in time.

    Even though we've had full employment and are continually told that we need more immigrants to fill all the jobs.

    Still there's nothing to stop them applying for jobs after they've left - if they can ever sort themselves out.

    Lowest common denominator migration policies have failed.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,575
    murali_s said:

    Yes we Khan!

    Voted Green for the London Assembly top up.

    How much will the Tory filth poll here?

    I don't think the Greens would thank you for calling them 'Tory filth.'
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,291

    Why would the LibDems want low cost housing on new developments? Their middle class voters buying the executive homes won't want a load of chaos living across the street. Vote loser.
    They get regularly re elected, so are popular. Examine your prejudices. The LD vote is remarkably evenly spread by age and demographics. Indeed that is one of our problems.
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    Foxy said:

    They get regularly re elected, so are popular. Examine your prejudices. The LD vote is remarkably evenly spread by age and demographics. Indeed that is one of our problems.
    In Scotland, they are astonishingly NIMBY. Basically an arm of the Residents' Associations.
  • ClippPClippP Posts: 1,964

    Why would the LibDems want low cost housing on new developments? Their middle class voters buying the executive homes won't want a load of chaos living across the street. Vote loser.
    To help keep a balanced community.

    There is no point in having a community of waelthy bankers, lawyers and flint-knappers if there is nobody near to fix the gas leaks....
  • isamisam Posts: 41,349
    I have to disagree with the header on net ratings. As long as there aren’t too many don’t knows, I believe the gross positive number is more important.

    If the leaders of the two main parties scores were

    41-42
    &
    33-29

    I would rather be the one on 41 with a net minus

    That said, in this case 28 isn’t that great a GP; just shows how unpopular politicians are that 28 is the highest GP of the current bunch, and I’d take even money that Sir Keir’s will be lower than that come the GE
  • kamskikamski Posts: 6,331

    I assume the venue has a safety certificate, like footy stadiums etc. So quite how they were able to very nearly open yesterday and at the same time have air conditioning falling off the ceiling boggles the mind.
    China. I'm sure of it. Or aliens. China or aliens. Or China and aliens.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,297
    tlg86 said:
    "He was 45, had been in good health and was noted for having a healthy lifestyle."
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620
    ydoethur said:

    I thought Johnson went to vote earlier?
    He *tried*.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,531
    legatus said:

    Well the GLC and County Council elections held in April 1970 were not particularly encouraging for Labour - though the party did make gains at the GLC compared with their landslide defeat in 1967 and gained control of the Inner London Education Authority ILEA - which corresponded to the former LCC area. A few weeks later on May 7th Labour made unexpectedly big gains at the Urban and Borough electios - reversing their 1967 losses. A week later Gallup recorded a Labour lead of 7.5% - followed by other smaller Labour leads from various pollsters. Election speculation exploded and Wilson announced the GE on May 18th to be held on June 18th. It turned out to be Wilson's Waterloo!
    Wiki is unusually light on details on the 1970 local elections with the exception of London.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,297

    An hour to go, All the psychos start thinking about voting now

    Intriguing comment, which I don't pretend to understand.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,575
    Carnyx said:

    He *tried*.
    I said *tried to vote* not *voted*
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852

    Why would China kill a Boeing whistleblower?
    Because they are attacking US manufacturing and infra any way they can, this is a fact

    https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/fbi-says-chinese-hackers-preparing-attack-us-infrastructure-2024-04-18/

    Also, China is now desperate to break the Boeing/Airbus duopoly, they have the airplane ready to roll, right now, and they are already making inroads


    "China’s New Plane Wins Two Big Orders: Should Airbus and Boeing Be Worried?"

    https://skift.com/2024/04/29/chinas-new-plane-wins-two-big-orders-should-airbus-and-boeing-be-worried/

    2 + 2 = 4. My guess is that China sees that Boeing is in trouble (of Boeing's own devising) and China has leapt on this opportunity, perhaps sabotaging the odd plane, and killing the odd whistleblower, so as to roil Boeing and send it spinning into oblivion

    I do NOT believe that Boeing is murdering whistleblowers, so could it be Beijing? yes

    And btw America is quite capable of doing this in reverse, indeed it probably has (likewise bigger European nations, like us)
  • isamisam Posts: 41,349
    edited May 2024
    Here is an article that has aged badly I suppose. Written by me, pre partygate, about what I consider to be the absurdity of net ratings.

    I think the thinking behind it still stands though, even if events have led to Sir Keir now being almost certain to be the next PM while Boris is nowhere to be seen

    http://aboutasfarasdelgados.blogspot.com/2021/03/the-optical-illusion-of-net-ratings.html
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 7,309
    edited May 2024
    Just voted. Labour for only the third time in my life (and the third time in succession). Becoming something of a habit….
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 62,395
    Andy_JS said:

    "He was 45, had been in good health and was noted for having a healthy lifestyle."
    I'm not sure what is going on, but it stinks.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Andy_JS said:

    Intriguing comment, which I don't pretend to understand.
    Lol, just a little joke. I couldn't leave it this late I'd be worried my watch was wrong
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,852
    kamski said:

    China. I'm sure of it. Or aliens. China or aliens. Or China and aliens.
    Or, I am right, and you are just quite dim. There is also that
  • isamisam Posts: 41,349
    GB News being woker than any other channel dare I think

    Tom: Are you saying that Brianna Ghey was a 16-year old boy?

    Keith: Yes

    Tom: That's an appalling thing to say!

    Keith: I'm sorry, but I believe it's a statement of fact

    Keith Jordan, Our Duty Group: 'If a child identifies as trans at school there's been a safeguarding failure'


    https://x.com/gbnews/status/1786028871122358324?s=46&t=CW4pL-mMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,247

    Test:


    Ein Volk! Eine Stadt! Eine Tonne!
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 3,402
    Looks like the pro Russian stance of Bedzina Ivanishvili in Georgia may have reached the end of the road. Thousands on the streets of Tbilisi.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,580
    ClippP said:

    To help keep a balanced community.

    There is no point in having a community of waelthy bankers, lawyers and flint-knappers if there is nobody near to fix the gas leaks....
    That’s one of the advantages of living in a small, long established town. The plumber lives round the corner and his children go to the same school as those of the chap who commutes to the City.
  • megasaurmegasaur Posts: 586
    Foxy said:

    They get regularly re elected, so are popular. Examine your prejudices. The LD vote is remarkably evenly spread by age and demographics. Indeed that is one of our problems.
    Your main problem is surely the post office? Sir Ed has been keeping his Ed down ever since Mr Bates v the PO but he can't hide for a whole GE campaign.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,277
    Do people ever wonder what people from abroad make of those declarations when you have characters like Count Binface etc on the stage .
  • northern_monkeynorthern_monkey Posts: 1,640
    edited May 2024
    An old mate of mine told me today the Leeds Tories are bricking it. There’s a good chance their group leader will be unseated by a Green challenger. The ward is Wetherby, a formerly rock solid Tory, affluent market town in leafy, rural-ish NE Leeds. He’s a former mayor of Wetherby and is well known and is hoping incumbency helps, but a Green was elected last time and apparently it’s all a bit squeaky bum time. They expect all the other Tories up for re-election to lose, some of those from formerly rock solid Tory wards too.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,078

    Any word on your efforts on behalf of the Sudanese and others?
    Hey Divvie, have you picked a side you’re rooting for in the Sudan War?

    Are RSF the bad guys because they have Putin on board?

    One of the reasons to donate to joint Christian Islam charity to help civilians, is anger that these wars are not civil wars - though we are told they are - they are international. That’s who the enemy and bad guy is - game playing by the international community. And if it makes you cross, donating to Red Cross Red Crescent is fighting back against bad things the bad guys do.

    https://www.chathamhouse.org/publications/the-world-today/2024-02/sudan-collapsing-heres-how-stop-it
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,235
    My better half isn't going to bother voting, normally votes green or Labour.
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,244
    nico679 said:

    Do people ever wonder what people from abroad make of those declarations when you have characters like Count Binface etc on the stage .

    Just look at Reddit every time there’s a major UK election. It’s full of confused Americans asking whether Count Buckethead is Conservative or Labour.
  • legatuslegatus Posts: 126

    Wiki is unusually light on details on the 1970 local elections with the exception of London.

    Wiki is unusually light on details on the 1970 local elections with the exception of London.

    Wiki is unusually light on details on the 1970 local elections with the exception of London.
    Pre the reform of Local Government by Heath's government in the early 1970s the local elecion cycle was 3 years rather than the 4 years we have known for the last 50 years - ie councillors were elected for 3 rather than 4 years. That meant that in County Council election years there were two sets of Local Elections with the County Council elections taking place in April followed by the Urban/Borough elections a few weeks later in May. This was true in 1961 - 1964 - 1967 - 1970 - and for the last time in 1973.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,302
    Andy_JS said:

    Intriguing comment, which I don't pretend to understand.
    ...and you don't have time anyway, as you're off to vote now.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 14,078

    An old mate of mine told me today the Leeds Tories are bricking it. There’s a good chance their group leader will be unseated by a Green challenger. The ward is Wetherby, a formerly rock solid Tory, affluent market town in leafy, rural-ish NE Leeds. He’s a former mayor of Wetherby and is well known and is hoping incumbency helps, but a Green was elected last time and apparently it’s all a bit squeaky bum time. They expect all the other Tories up for re-election to lose, some of those from formerly rock solid Tory wards too.

    That surprises me because my call is Conservatives doing okay in North Yorkshire when it comes to Mayor election, it will be a third Tory win with Street and Houchen. North Yorkshire overall will always be Tory. For ever and ever.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,698

    Just voted. Labour for only the third time in my life (and the third time in succession). Becoming something of a habit….

    Welcome, Comrade!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,620
    edited May 2024
    ydoethur said:

    I said *tried to vote* not *voted*
    Eh? You said 'went to vote'. I wouldn't have responded otherwise. Scholarly accuracy is important.

    Besides, you might have missed the news.
  • That’s one of the advantages of living in a small, long established town. The plumber lives round the corner and his children go to the same school as those of the chap who commutes to the City.
    Until the children grow up and have to leave the small, well established town as there's nowhere for them to live themselves if there's been no construction to keep up with both population growth and longer life expectancy.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,575
    Carnyx said:

    Eh? You said 'went to vote'. I wouldn't have responded otherwise. Scholarly accuracy is important.
    Ok, I will accept I said *went to vote*.

    I still maintain there is a difference between *went to vote* and *voted.*
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,575

    Just look at Reddit every time there’s a major UK election. It’s full of confused Americans asking whether Count Buckethead is Conservative or Labour.
    Fools.

    That's Lord Shitfaced.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,867
    edited May 2024

    They struggle to comprehend it.

    I'll tell you an anecdote on these lines.

    Back in circa 2011 Barack Obama rang to speak to David Cameron, he was genuinely perplexed to learn that David Cameron was out delivering leaflets/canvassing in his constituency of Witney and that Dave would call him back in an hour or so as the mobile reception in West Oxfordshire was bad.
    The consistency link is one of the few things that's still good about our politics. Doesn't matter whether you're an MP in a party of one or the Prime Minister, once every four or five years you WILL go back to your constituency and face the music, lol!
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589

    Just look at Reddit every time there’s a major UK election. It’s full of confused Americans asking whether Count Buckethead is Conservative or Labour.
    Tell them he's a whig to really mess with them.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,291
    nico679 said:

    Do people ever wonder what people from abroad make of those declarations when you have characters like Count Binface etc on the stage .

    It's a great British tradition to prick the pomposity of politicians.

    Didn't Farage once get beaten by someone dressed as a dolphin?
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,989
    GIN1138 said:

    Depends how bad things get and whether it can be directly pinned on the new government or not.

    I'm sure when Labour went to MFI for a bailout in '76 they probably tried to pin it on Heath's government, perhaps with some success?

    But when the Winter Of Discontent came along there was no one else they could pin the blame on...
    MFI? Were the tables turned?
  • bobbobbobbob Posts: 100
    Was the poll before or after Rishi said British workers were faking being sick and doctors can’t be trusted to write sick notes? Bet it seemed like a vote winner to him
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,235
    https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-8060/CBP-8060.pdf

    Page 18 has details of turnout for local elections since 1973.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,570

    An old mate of mine told me today the Leeds Tories are bricking it. There’s a good chance their group leader will be unseated by a Green challenger. The ward is Wetherby, a formerly rock solid Tory, affluent market town in leafy, rural-ish NE Leeds. He’s a former mayor of Wetherby and is well known and is hoping incumbency helps, but a Green was elected last time and apparently it’s all a bit squeaky bum time. They expect all the other Tories up for re-election to lose, some of those from formerly rock solid Tory wards too.

    Blimey. If Wetherby falls then the Tories are in even more shit than their dire polling suggests.
  • megasaurmegasaur Posts: 586

    They struggle to comprehend it.

    I'll tell you an anecdote on these lines.

    Back in circa 2011 Barack Obama rang to speak to David Cameron, he was genuinely perplexed to learn that David Cameron was out delivering leaflets/canvassing in his constituency of Witney and that Dave would call him back in an hour or so as the mobile reception in West Oxfordshire was bad.
    Think how fab things would be if he had acknowledged his limitations and stuck to leafletting.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,698

    That surprises me because my call is Conservatives doing okay in North Yorkshire when it comes to Mayor election, it will be a third Tory win with Street and Houchen. North Yorkshire overall will always be Tory. For ever and ever.
    Wasn't there a poll putting Labour ahead in NY?
  • northern_monkeynorthern_monkey Posts: 1,640

    That surprises me because my call is Conservatives doing okay in North Yorkshire when it comes to Mayor election, it will be a third Tory win with Street and Houchen. North Yorkshire overall will always be Tory. For ever and ever.
    I’m surprised too, to be honest. Although it’s Leeds on paper, it is only just and it does feel very North Yorkshire out that way. I can understand them getting a kicking in Leeds proper, even in the leafy suburbs where they’ve been solid for years, but Wetherby just seems too dyed-in-the-wool Tory - if a Green hadn’t won there last time I’d say it was bollocks. But the Tories think he could well be a gonner.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,952

    Why would the LibDems want low cost housing on new developments? Their middle class voters buying the executive homes won't want a load of chaos living across the street. Vote loser.
    Come come. Lib Dem voters don’t buy “executive homes”. The horror!
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,867

    MFI? Were the tables turned?
    Dunno, but I hear the wardrobe was a bit wonky...
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589

    Wasn't there a poll putting Labour ahead in NY?
    "Mr Starmer, this is the NY State electoral office, we're calling to inform you that you've won the electoral college votes as a write in candidate"
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,681
    Interesting chat to the polling office staff this morning; they felt it was a long day but decent money for sitting at a desk.

    Checking up it is about £20 per hour.

    Today being £230 + 20% extra for running two polls + £30 for a training session.

    Given that ours are PCC and D2N2 Mayor with notalot of voters, I can see the attraction.

    That's nearly 2 weeks of basic state pension.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,235

    Blimey. If Wetherby falls then the Tories are in even more shit than their dire polling suggests.
    Went Green in 2023, so unless Alan Lamb is considerably more popular than Linda Richards I expect the Greens will win this time too.
  • northern_monkeynorthern_monkey Posts: 1,640
    edited May 2024

    Blimey. If Wetherby falls then the Tories are in even more shit than their dire polling suggests.
    That’s exactly what I said. But a Green got in last year. So who knows?!
  • OnboardG1OnboardG1 Posts: 1,589
    MattW said:

    Interesting chat to the polling office staff this morning; they felt it was a long day but decent money for sitting at a desk.

    Checking up it is about £20 per hour.

    Today being £230 + 20% extra for running two polls + £30 for a training session.

    Given that ours are PCC and D2N2 Mayor with notalot of voters, I can see the attraction.

    That's nearly 2 weeks of basic state pension.

    I'm surprisingly heartened to hear that the polling staff are paid decently. They should be.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,291

    MFI? Were the tables turned?
    Who would chair the meeting?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,688
    megasaur said:

    Think how fab things would be if he had acknowledged his limitations and stuck to leafletting.
    It's comments like this that lead to me using that Nigel Farage photo in thead headers. #CollectivePunishmentForInsultingDave
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,692
    nico679 said:

    Do people ever wonder what people from abroad make of those declarations when you have characters like Count Binface etc on the stage .

    https://blackadder.fandom.com/wiki/Standing_at_the_Back_Dressed_Stupidly_and_Looking_Stupid_Party
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,952

    That’s exactly what I said. But a Green got in last year. So who knows?!
    My in-laws live in Wetherby. I expect they’ll be voting Reform.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,688
    Pulpstar said:

    https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-8060/CBP-8060.pdf

    Page 18 has details of turnout for local elections since 1973.

    That is proper nerd porn.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,580

    That’s exactly what I said. But a Green got in last year. So who knows?!
    If Leeds goes even more Labour my eldest granddaughter and her partner will be delighted.
  • It's comments like this that lead to me using that Nigel Farage photo in thead headers. #CollectivePunishmentForInsultingDave
    No out of context photo will ever trump Corbyn dressing up for the Last Leg in a tuxedo, fur coat and a Bentley.
  • northern_monkeynorthern_monkey Posts: 1,640
    edited May 2024
    Pulpstar said:

    Went Green in 2023, so unless Alan Lamb is considerably more popular than Linda Richards I expect the Greens will win this time too.
    I think he is, which is what they’re clinging on to. If he can’t hold on they really are in a very, very bad place. But I think he’ll survive.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,692

    It's comments like this that lead to me using that Nigel Farage photo in thead headers. #CollectivePunishmentForInsultingDave
    #UnelectedHasBeen
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,247
    nico679 said:

    Do people ever wonder what people from abroad make of those declarations when you have characters like Count Binface etc on the stage .

    To be sure, to be sure… but is he a Protestant Binface or a Catholic Binface?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,601
    MattW said:

    Interesting chat to the polling office staff this morning; they felt it was a long day but decent money for sitting at a desk.

    Checking up it is about £20 per hour.

    Today being £230 + 20% extra for running two polls + £30 for a training session.

    Given that ours are PCC and D2N2 Mayor with notalot of voters, I can see the attraction.

    That's nearly 2 weeks of basic state pension.

    You can volunteer to be on the list. You probably won't get it as priority will almost certainly go to current or former local authority staff, but people always drop out as the date approaches and some venues are tough to fill, so you never know.
  • Blimey. If Wetherby falls then the Tories are in even more shit than their dire polling suggests.
    'Wetherby Has Fallen' could be the new 'Were You Still Up For Portillo?'
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,291

    No out of context photo will ever trump Corbyn dressing up for the Last Leg in a tuxedo, fur coat and a Bentley.
    He scrubbed up quite well as I remember. Derek Guy would approve I am sure.

    Starmer needs to read his twitter. He needs better fitting jackets or to shed a few stone.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,568

    No out of context photo will ever trump Corbyn dressing up for the Last Leg in a tuxedo, fur coat and a Bentley.
    That's 00Corbyn to you. Seriously, the access he had to people the security services took a great interest in!
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,952
    While we wait, here’s Britain’s finest comedy sketch on local government:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xu2ib2r5aDw
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