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  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,130
    edited March 2024

    You’ve had a leaflet from AI? So ChatGPT has become sentient, but has decided to take part in the democratic process instead of just oppressing all humans? There is hope for us all!

    (I worked it out: Ashfield Independents.)
    The AI leaflet also has an 18" long victim narrative from Zadrozny. The position he is taking is like Jonathon Aitken - infamy, infamy !

    Personally, I am quite skeptical this time around. The tell for me is that he fought like Trump to delay and move the trial.
  • On topic, this article gives a more detailed picture suggesting that apart from Ohio and Arizona, the GOP have managed to select some more moderate candidates:

    https://1ft.io/proxy?q=https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/22/opinion/senate-republicans-trump.html

    I would be betting on the GOP to take the senate as this is a very hard cycle for the Dems.

    They start with 51 seats. West Virginia is a nailed on loss with Manchin quitting.

    Therefore, the GOP only have to take one of the following for control:

    Ohio
    Montana
    Pennsylvania
    Michigan
    Nevada
    Arizona
    Wisconsin

    On the other side, Dems only have 2 unlikely pick up opportunities in Texas and Florida. There are also a couple of wildcards - Maryland, where the popular moderate Republican governor is running and New Jersey, where the current incumbent is mired in scandal.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,130

    Refineries have been hit near St Petersburg.

    Refineries and airbases are probably higher value targets than the Baltic Fleet. Last I heard the Black Sea Fleet was still in hiding and refusing to leave port.
    I'd like to see a report on the damage at Engels (sp?) Airbase from the most recent raid.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,130
    Have we noted that another Republican Congressman has stated he is leaving in mid-April?

    That's a narrowing majority.
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24

    https://youtube.com/shorts/4hxXLXGnqag?si=IEGeDBdsLg0ED6W_

    Even Sam Altman thinks AI is over-hyped.

    Awaiting @Leon to call him an idiot.

    Certainly a strong possibility its been overhyped at present.
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    malcolmg said:

    Almost as boring as the Commonwealth games. Both disappearing up their own fundamentals as people / sponsors realise they are crap.
    Indeed i alway though i was alone in hating olympics. Glad others agree.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,768
    Eabhal said:

    He spent most of his reign in France. Would've voted remain.
    No, he'd have sold off government assets to pay for war in the Middle East.
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24

    Refineries have been hit near St Petersburg.

    Refineries and airbases are probably higher value targets than the Baltic Fleet. Last I heard the Black Sea Fleet was still in hiding and refusing to leave port.
    Biden wont like this if it means higher gas prices though. Ukraine have got to be a bit careful.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    ...whereas you're still desperately trying to find any reason at all to support the Tories?
    Do you think so? That’s a strange thing to say.

    I have no intention of voting for them, and can’t remember trying to find a reason to, do you have any examples?
  • @Clarkman our latest Russian stooge
  • kamskikamski Posts: 6,236

    ...

    Roger Daltrey on Brexit: " I was just a boy, giving it all away".
    Leo Sayer?
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    With regards to the attack last nite interesting views from Andrew Tate here.

    Oh.

    ISIS is back after a ten year sleep. Musta been tired I guess.

    Totally believable.

    Btw… guess who ISIS really are?

    https://x.com/Cobratate/status/1771359295902253168?s=20
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    And this
    ISIS has taken responsibility of the Moscow terrorist attacks.

    Who did Trump say was the founder and the co-founder of ISIS?

    Who has been making international trips lately?

    Who benefits from this attack?

    https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1771290880919368138?s=20
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,942

    @Clarkman our latest Russian stooge

    The Russian visitors usually agree with Leon about absolutely everything, so I suppose throwing a bit of AI-scepticism in there is good cover.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    Clarkman said:

    And this
    ISIS has taken responsibility of the Moscow terrorist attacks.

    Who did Trump say was the founder and the co-founder of ISIS?

    Who has been making international trips lately?

    Who benefits from this attack?

    https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1771290880919368138?s=20

    Putin?
  • Yawn, these Russian prats must think we are REALLY dumb. What is the aim here, can anyone explain?
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    Ukraine need to be careful here. Its a strong possibility this attack was carried out by various dodgy actors and they get the blame.
  • MJWMJW Posts: 2,005

    I said the average person, not business. Most people, especially at the lower socio-economic end of things will have barely felt a ripple. That's not to say Brexit is done and successful, it hasn't been and isn't, it's just that covid and the general wankiness of life over the past decade has masked whatever great effect Brexit may have had.
    The reverse is probably true though, in that the general wankiness of life is partly now put down to Brexit - or a failed political class inextricably linked with it. Sometimes fairly, sometimes unfairly.

    If you look at polling, it's now extremely unpopular (even rejoin, which is obviously very difficult and comes with its own problems, posts healthy leads).

    So what's happened? To oversimplify a bit. The third of the country who hated it still hate it - and it's broken some natural voting relationships. The third who were enthusiastic supporters by and large still support - with the exception of some in sectors or places that have taken a real hit - but many feel let down over stuff like immigration.

    The middle third who weren't bothered either way but narrowly broke 'Leave' in the referendum out of frustration, now largely view Brexit as a fiasco that can be lumped in with other recent government failure.

    The advantage that Leave had in the campaign - that you could link a status quo that people had become unsatisfied with to EU membership- one which meant Remain failed to realise until too late the need to make a positive case. But has now flipped, and the feeling of a crumbling country that's badly struggling gets linked to Brexit and the politicians who championed it as a cure.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 23,999
    Clarkman said:

    And this
    ISIS has taken responsibility of the Moscow terrorist attacks.

    Who did Trump say was the founder and the co-founder of ISIS?

    Who has been making international trips lately?

    Who benefits from this attack?

    https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1771290880919368138?s=20

    Keep up the good work and they might let you out on day release on more than just Saturday mornings, you never know.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    edited March 2024
    Clarkman said:

    Ukraine need to be careful here. Its a strong possibility this attack was carried out by various dodgy actors and they get the blame.

    The acting by the Russians so far has been non-existent rather than merely dodgy.

    They're almost as bad at acting as Pamela Anderson.
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    Alex Jones has posted this.

    The CIA cut out ISIS takes responsibility for terrorist attack in Moscow weeks after Ukraine threatened terror strikes on Russia

    https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1771300890357461351?s=20
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    Clarkman said:

    Alex Jones has posted this.

    The CIA cut out ISIS takes responsibility for terrorist attack in Moscow weeks after Ukraine threatened terror strikes on Russia

    https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1771300890357461351?s=20

    This one's boring. The last one was waaaaay better.

    This one doesn't even realise how everyone in the West knows what a small-cocked cuck Jones is.

    Almost as useless as Putin himself.

    I'm disappointed, really disappointed. We deserve better than this.
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    ydoethur said:

    Putin?
    Not really. Putin is in a strong position now. Always ask who benefits, the americans perhaps.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,768
    British ultrarunner Jasmin Paris is first woman to finish Barkley Marathons
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/mar/22/jasmin-paris-completes-barkley-marathons-tennessee

    With 99 seconds to spare.
  • eek said:

    I fly via Schiphol - don’t think I’ve ever had any hassle getting through immigration - it’s 5 minutes max and was the same previously when I was flying on a weekly basis
    You must be white, then.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,126
    edited March 2024
    Clarkman said:

    Biden wont like this if it means higher gas prices though. Ukraine have got to be a bit careful.
    If Biden had helped Ukraine win the war in 2023 he could have had lower gas prices now.

    Much as I hope for the best in terms of US support, Ukraine and Europe have to learn to do without it.
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    Biden fears that Russia will get Ukraine to surrender before November destroying his re-election chances. The US proxy war with over a million dead was totally preventable and Biden rejected peace in 2022. His legacy will be a wrecked Ukraine, the Gaza genocide and a bankrupt US.

    https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/1771418281435599317?s=20
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    Clarkman said:

    Not really. Putin is in a strong position now. Always ask who benefits, the americans perhaps.
    He's physically weak and politically in a state of confusion. He needs something dramatic.

    He'll cock it up because he's incompetent, of course. Heck, he couldn't even beat the Ukrainians when 40% of them were on his side. But he's certainly capable of trying it.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    Clarkman said:

    Alex Jones has posted this.

    The CIA cut out ISIS takes responsibility for terrorist attack in Moscow weeks after Ukraine threatened terror strikes on Russia

    https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1771300890357461351?s=20

    Are you sure you don't mean Clarkson rather than Clarkman? Anyway your choice of name is of course up to you. However by way of advice to a newbie, Andrew Tate and Alex Jones are not generally considered 24 carat sources on pb.

    Just saying.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    Clarkman said:

    Biden fears that Russia will get Ukraine to surrender before November destroying his re-election chances. The US proxy war with over a million dead was totally preventable and Biden rejected peace in 2022. His legacy will be a wrecked Ukraine, the Gaza genocide and a bankrupt US.

    https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/1771418281435599317?s=20

    And live from PB, it's Saturday lunchtime!
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    Maybe also the attack wascprompted by this.

    JUST IN: Russia officially adds the LGBTQ movement to its list of tеrrоrist and extremist organizations.

    https://x.com/BRICSinfo/status/1771187277185634766?s=20
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045

    Are you sure you don't mean Clarkson rather than Clarkman? Anyway your choice of name is of course up to you. However by way of advice to a newbie, Andrew Tate and Alex Jones are not generally considered 24 carat sources on pb.

    Just saying.
    24 carat comedy gold though.

    D'you reckon we'll get that one about BA pilots again before @PBModerator wields the ban hammer?
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    Russia has seen the harm the lgbt movement does to the west and wants no part of it.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,369
    Clarkman said:

    Biden fears that Russia will get Ukraine to surrender before November destroying his re-election chances. The US proxy war with over a million dead was totally preventable and Biden rejected peace in 2022. His legacy will be a wrecked Ukraine, the Gaza genocide and a bankrupt US.

    https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/1771418281435599317?s=20

    And Putin’s will be a Russia split into various warlords fiefdoms.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    Clarkman said:

    Russia has seen the harm the lgbt movement does to the west and wants no part of it.

    Is this an admission that Russia is buggered?
  • ydoethur said:

    And live from PB, it's Saturday lunchtime!
    What happened to Truman? He was by some distance the best Russian troll we've ever had. I'd hoped we would be allowed to keep him.

    This one seems a right jerk.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,650
    Clarkman said:

    Russia has seen the harm the lgbt movement does to the west and wants no part of it.

    Oh just fuck off.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045

    What happened to Truman? He was by some distance the best Russian troll we've ever had. I'd hoped we would be allowed to keep him.

    This one seems a right jerk.
    Please!

    A wrong jerk.

    Actually, Truman was quite an interesting poster. Reminded me of DJ41. Sure, there was nonsense but it was intelligently written nonsense and engaged with the discussion. I was a bit sorry when it ended.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    Clarkman said:

    Biden fears that Russia will get Ukraine to surrender before November destroying his re-election chances. The US proxy war with over a million dead was totally preventable and Biden rejected peace in 2022. His legacy will be a wrecked Ukraine, the Gaza genocide and a bankrupt US.

    https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/1771418281435599317?s=20

    I have heard he also advocates people getting vaccinated against Covid?
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    Sad news about kate middleton too. Lots of young people getting cancer recently.

    THERE IS A LINK BETWEEN TURBO CANCERS AND THE COVID VACCINES -

    IT IS TIME THAT OUR GOVERNMENT AND ALL THE GOVERNMENTS THAT PUSHED THIS UNTESTED MEDICAL PROCEDURE ON IT’S PEOPLE THOROUGHLY LOOKED INTO IT AND INVESTIGATED THE MATTER.

    https://x.com/JohnMappin/status/1771242898027082116?s=20
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,768
    Clarkman said:

    Biden fears that Russia will get Ukraine to surrender before November destroying his re-election chances. The US proxy war with over a million dead was totally preventable and Biden rejected peace in 2022. His legacy will be a wrecked Ukraine, the Gaza genocide and a bankrupt US.

    https://x.com/KimDotcom/status/1771418281435599317?s=20

    Are you this Saturday's effort ?

    KimDotcom ? Really ?

    Pfffffft
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    Clarkman said:

    Sad news about kate middleton too. Lots of young people getting cancer recently.

    THERE IS A LINK BETWEEN TURBO CANCERS AND THE COVID VACCINES -

    IT IS TIME THAT OUR GOVERNMENT AND ALL THE GOVERNMENTS THAT PUSHED THIS UNTESTED MEDICAL PROCEDURE ON IT’S PEOPLE THOROUGHLY LOOKED INTO IT AND INVESTIGATED THE MATTER.

    https://x.com/JohnMappin/status/1771242898027082116?s=20

    You forgot BA pilots.

    By the way, you do know Putin was the one world leader to use untested vaccines, don't you?
  • Heathener said:

    Oh well that’s a bugger. As I say, I was off air for some months. Bets don’t usually close until right before the event, but of course odds change.

    I feel a tad miffed as I’ve been stating on here for a couple of years that I believe the number of Cons MPs will be around 100-150. Not that this is a done deal yet by any means. There’s still a long way to go and every leftie will be told the tale of 1992.

    If it happens I will have to ride @Peter_the_Punter ’s coronation train with vicarious satisfaction.


    Why not do a dummy entry? You can post it as evidence, and if it's accurate I expect TSE will give you some sort of consolation prize - maybe a warped Radiohead single, or a pizza with pineapple topping.,
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,377
    Clarkman said:

    Alex Jones has posted this.

    The CIA cut out ISIS takes responsibility for terrorist attack in Moscow weeks after Ukraine threatened terror strikes on Russia

    https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1771300890357461351?s=20

    Oooohh Alex Jones. Must be true.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    ydoethur said:

    24 carat comedy gold though.

    D'you reckon we'll get that one about BA pilots again before @PBModerator wields the ban hammer?
    This one appears to have adopted the quick fire 'six and out' approach, rather than the slow grind of the last one.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    Clarkman said:

    Sad news about kate middleton too. Lots of young people getting cancer recently.

    THERE IS A LINK BETWEEN TURBO CANCERS AND THE COVID VACCINES -

    IT IS TIME THAT OUR GOVERNMENT AND ALL THE GOVERNMENTS THAT PUSHED THIS UNTESTED MEDICAL PROCEDURE ON IT’S PEOPLE THOROUGHLY LOOKED INTO IT AND INVESTIGATED THE MATTER.

    https://x.com/JohnMappin/status/1771242898027082116?s=20

    I wonder how many lives in Ukraine were saved as a result of them using western rather than Russian vaccines?

    And with that good night.
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    This from mp george galloway.

    the #Biden regime is found to be involved in the terrorist mass murder underway in Moscow a virtual state of war between the super-powers will exist #Russia #USA #Moscow

    https://x.com/georgegalloway/status/1771250046605856856?s=20

  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,650
    edited March 2024
    ydoethur said:

    Please!

    A wrong jerk.

    Actually, Truman was quite an interesting poster. Reminded me of DJ41. Sure, there was nonsense but it was intelligently written nonsense and engaged with the discussion. I was a bit sorry when it ended.
    DJ41 was more eloquent. Came at the pro-Putin thing from a left wing perspective which was a more novel approach. Truman seemed a bit ChatGPT.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,145

    Yawn, these Russian prats must think we are REALLY dumb. What is the aim here, can anyone explain?

    In theory, it's to spread rancour and despondency. In practice, it's to give us all a good chuckle, except for those who somehow aren't in on the joke.

    Let's face it, we need a good chuckle.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,768
    Doesn't quite trip off the tongue, but the right idea.

    Biden campaign tests Trump’s name-calling strategy with ‘Broke Don’
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4550498-biden-campaign-tests-trumps-name-calling-strategy-with-broke-don/
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,130
    edited March 2024
    This is the defence from Zadrozny's Independents leaflet.

    It's quite a strong stance to take in his circs.




  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    Clarkman said:

    This from mp george galloway.

    the #Biden regime is found to be involved in the terrorist mass murder underway in Moscow a virtual state of war between the super-powers will exist #Russia #USA #Moscow

    https://x.com/georgegalloway/status/1771250046605856856?s=20

    Gosh. Are you really so useless you can't come up with *any* vaguely sane sources?

    You'll be quoting Goebbels next.

    Come on, make more of an effort.

    At the moment whatever Putin is paying, you're not worth it.

    Heck, even those losers at British Gas would give you the push. They can at least spell and punctuate, even if they can't lay out formal letters properly.
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    ydoethur said:

    Gosh. Are you really so useless you can't come up with *any* vaguely sane sources?

    You'll be quoting Goebbels next.

    Come on, make more of an effort.

    At the moment whatever Putin is paying, you're not worth it.

    Heck, even those losers at British Gas would give you the push. They can at least spell and punctuate, even if they can't lay out formal letters properly.
    Hes an mp in the british parliament.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045

    In theory, it's to spread rancour and despondency. In practice, it's to give us all a good chuckle, except for those who somehow aren't in on the joke.

    Let's face it, we need a good chuckle.
    Well, if it helps, this is Clarkman when his boss sees his efforts...

    https://youtu.be/EGLE9XtvdH0?si=9IQBUqYe9Bhp7iGa
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,237
    edited March 2024
    Cyclefree said:

    Yes - let's sneer at people instead of perhaps being curious about them, their lives, why they are like this, what they want from life and so on. Sure - their dress sense is IMO appalling but one could say the same about a lot of very rich people, many of them in the arts, who are fawned over by the very same people who view these people in Warrington with distaste.

    But so what: they have a vote and they have a stake - our ought to - in our society. And they may well have talents and capabilities too and they should not be ignored.
    It's striking that someone who boasted about marching through London behind the Israeli flag now parades their compassionate side towards the obese.

    Maybe Gazans don't float your boat in the same way Warringtonians do?
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24

    In theory, it's to spread rancour and despondency. In practice, it's to give us all a good chuckle, except for those who somehow aren't in on the joke.

    Let's face it, we need a good chuckle.
    Indeed ukraine getting spanked by russia is funny.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,802
    edited March 2024
    Clarkman said:

    This from mp george galloway.

    the #Biden regime is found to be involved in the terrorist mass murder underway in Moscow a virtual state of war between the super-powers will exist #Russia #USA #Moscow

    https://x.com/georgegalloway/status/1771250046605856856?s=20

    There is a missing 'If' in the above. This error is the difference, so it seems, between WWIII and world peace.

    AI needs to up its game.

    (Hope the good people of Rochdale are enjoying their new MPs rhetoric).
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    Nigelb said:

    Doesn't quite trip off the tongue, but the right idea.

    Biden campaign tests Trump’s name-calling strategy with ‘Broke Don’
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4550498-biden-campaign-tests-trumps-name-calling-strategy-with-broke-don/

    Wont work now hes raised 4 billion.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    Clarkman said:

    Hes an mp in the british parliament.
    Goebbels was an official of the German government. And a neo-Nazi crook, mad anti-Semite, serial rapist, and in the pay of many mad despots.

    Galloway is, of course, different from this.

    For a start, he has never been an official of the German government.
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    ydoethur said:

    Well, if it helps, this is Clarkman when his boss sees his efforts...

    https://youtu.be/EGLE9XtvdH0?si=9IQBUqYe9Bhp7iGa
    Have i got the name wrong. Whos that funny presenter of top gear.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    Clarkman said:

    Have i got the name wrong. Whos that funny presenter of top gear.
    James May.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,650
    ydoethur said:

    Goebbels was an official of the German government. And a neo-Nazi crook, mad anti-Semite, serial rapist, and in the pay of many mad despots.

    Galloway is, of course, different from this.

    For a start, he has never been an official of the German government.
    Goebbels never dressed up as a cat on celebrity BB
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    Interesting on the kate middleton video.
    This video was not taken on a bench outside at Windsor Castle.

    It has clearly been done with a green screen.

    Look at the lighting on the bench?

    The flowers and blossom don't move at all.

    The outdoor noises don't sound natural.

    This isn't rocket science.

    https://x.com/UnityNewsNet/status/1771495760921579771?s=20
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,768
    Clarkman said:

    Sad news about kate middleton too. Lots of young people getting cancer recently.

    THERE IS A LINK BETWEEN TURBO CANCERS AND THE COVID VACCINES -

    IT IS TIME THAT OUR GOVERNMENT AND ALL THE GOVERNMENTS THAT PUSHED THIS UNTESTED MEDICAL PROCEDURE ON IT’S PEOPLE THOROUGHLY LOOKED INTO IT AND INVESTIGATED THE MATTER.

    https://x.com/JohnMappin/status/1771242898027082116?s=20

    And there we go.

    Sayonara.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 6,032
    TimS said:

    DJ41 was more eloquent. Came at the pro-Putin thing from a left wing perspective which was a more novel approach. Truman seemed a bit ChatGPT.
    DJ41 wasn’t a Russian troll, I had a bit of private correspondence with him about something we had in common. Just a person with a slightly different worldview than most.
  • WillGWillG Posts: 2,366
    Clarkman said:

    Wont work now hes raised 4 billion.
    Now he can be "Bought Don".
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    ydoethur said:

    Goebbels was an official of the German government. And a neo-Nazi crook, mad anti-Semite, serial rapist, and in the pay of many mad despots.

    Galloway is, of course, different from this.

    For a start, he has never been an official of the German government.
    Galloway increasingly associates with the far right now on many isdues.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    On Topic

    When a cult takes over a political party there is a tendency to tell existing supporters to go and vote for somebody else, we saw this with SKS who literally said if you don't like the direction I am taking the party there's the door.

    Jezza never said anything of that nature and 12.9m voted for him in 2017
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    Clarkman said:

    Galloway increasingly associates with the far right now on many isdues.
    Increasingly? He was a personal friend of Saddam Hussein!
  • WillGWillG Posts: 2,366
    Clarkman said:

    Hes an mp in the british parliament.
    One who famously saluted Saddam Hussein.
  • Heathener said:

    Wow.

    Well, there’s a part of me which would love it just for the kicking it will give a Gov’t and party which I think deserve everything coming to them.

    However, I do feel that our democratic process needs an effective Opposition in parliament? Starmer in this regard is probably a lot more trustworthy than Blair, who was smug even before he was elected.
    Whilst not impossible, zero is of course highly unlikely but below 50 is not. (It was last matched on Betfair at 7.6).

    Yes, I agree that an effective Opposition is an aid to good government, but a meltdown of that order would imply Sir Ed Davey as LOTO. One envisages PMQs of a very different kind from what we have been accustomerd to. They would certainly be much more polite, and who knows, maybe even more cerebral.

    Just dreaming.
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    boulay said:

    DJ41 wasn’t a Russian troll, I had a bit of private correspondence with him about something we had in common. Just a person with a slightly different worldview than most.
    Indded. Always best not to be paranoid.
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    Nigelb said:

    And there we go.

    Sayonara.
    2 members of the royal family with cancer. How unusual is that.
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    WillG said:

    One who famously saluted Saddam Hussein.
    But stands up for the people of gaxa. A principled man.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,145
    Clarkman said:

    Indeed ukraine getting spanked by russia is funny.
    Hardly. And even the reverse wouldn't be that funny; it's still humans suffering because of the addled fantasies of an increasingly decrepit despot.

    Still, I'm sure you're doing very good work.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    Clarkman said:

    2 members of the royal family with cancer. How unusual is that.
    How many of them have had porphyria?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    Clarkman said:

    But stands up for the people of gaxa. A principled man.
    I didn't know he had any people. Are they footballers like he was?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    Clarkman said:

    Indded. Always best not to be paranoid.
    Clarkman said:

    2 members of the royal family with cancer. How unusual is that.
    I'm loving that juxtaposition, by the way.
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24
    ydoethur said:

    I didn't know he had any people. Are they footballers like he was?
    All the anti semitic theories floating around must be driving people like you mad.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    Clarkman said:

    All the anti semitic theories floating around must be driving people like you mad.
    The large number of antisemites floating around annoys me.

    The theories they espouse just mildly divert me from more useful things, like suing British Gas for swindling me.
  • ClarkmanClarkman Posts: 24

    Hardly. And even the reverse wouldn't be that funny; it's still humans suffering because of the addled fantasies of an increasingly decrepit despot.

    Still, I'm sure you're doing very good work.
    Indeed. Which is why peace is needed.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045
    edited March 2024
    Clarkman said:

    Indeed. Which is why peace is needed.
    How about asking your boss to stop trying to prove his cock is more than an inch long, and withdraw?

    Edit - 24 posts. Not too impressive.

    That was a very inferior bot. Putin really must be panicking if he's sending out rubbish like that.

    Or is he just offended by TSE's comments on his sexuality?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,768
    How seriously the GOP takes the border situation.

    Scott Perry says Republicans should vote against this bill because it provides for 23,000 new Border Patrol Agents and 41,500 new detention facility beds, and this will give Democrats something to run on in the upcoming election.
    https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1771176087550070795

    Helpful of them to say it out loud.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,394
    Nigelb said:

    Doesn't quite trip off the tongue, but the right idea.

    Biden campaign tests Trump’s name-calling strategy with ‘Broke Don’
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4550498-biden-campaign-tests-trumps-name-calling-strategy-with-broke-don/

    Really? I'm not sure it plays terribly well with people who actually are broke. They keep getting it badly, badly wrong.

    There was an unexpectedly good essay on Radio 4 about this topic yesterday evening:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07vwr08
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,369

    Whilst not impossible, zero is of course highly unlikely but below 50 is not. (It was last matched on Betfair at 7.6).

    Yes, I agree that an effective Opposition is an aid to good government, but a meltdown of that order would imply Sir Ed Davey as LOTO. One envisages PMQs of a very different kind from what we have been accustomerd to. They would certainly be much more polite, and who knows, maybe even more cerebral.

    Just dreaming.
    Definitely not a nightmare, that!
    Would be in some quarters, of course.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,650
    Looks like we’re currently breaking the all time renewables generation record. 6gw of solar power on a windy day, but cold enough for demand to be high. 25gw of combined solar and wind.

    https://grid.energynumbers.info/
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 5,173
    Have we just had an entire troll outbreak in the time it's taken me to finish up at the gym, go home and back out shopping? I miss all the fun.
  • ydoethur said:

    The large number of antisemites floating around annoys me.

    The theories they espouse just mildly divert me from more useful things, like suing British Gas for swindling me.
    They quietly added £4k to our bill last year and it was a few months before we noticed. It was eventually reversed after a somewhat tense correspondence, but there was never any explanation.

    We plan to tiptoe away quietly to Octopus but we need to burn up our small credit with BG first, because we have heard they don't like making refunds.

    What an outfit.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,045

    They quietly added £4k to our bill last year and it was a few months before we noticed. It was eventually reversed after a somewhat tense correspondence, but there was never any explanation.

    We plan to tiptoe away quietly to Octopus but we need to burn up our small credit with BG first, because we have heard they don't like making refunds.

    What an outfit.
    You are correct. They're still swindling me on that, which I hope the judge will find of interest. And the regulator don't give a fuck either.

    I have sent them a large bill for my time on a separate issue and sued them after they refused to pay. I am looking forward to seeing them in court.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 5,173

    Definitely not a nightmare, that!
    Would be in some quarters, of course.
    The Tory replacement image is very amusing, but nature abhors a vacuum. I'm afraid that the loopy populist hard right is going to end up stronger than ever at the end of all this, whether that's achieved by walking over the prone corpse of the Conservative Party or through a takeover.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,768
    The drugs newly approved for obesity appear to have relative benefits for cognition compared to other diabetes treatments..
    Expect a lot more trials like this.

    Comparing major and mild cognitive impairment risks in older type-2 diabetic patients: a Danish register-based study on dipeptidyl peptidase-4 inhibitors vs. glucagon-like peptide-1 analogues
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00415-024-12300-9
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250
    Just want to say that recently I was mocked by the brilliant and much-missed @truman for investing a hefty chunk of unexpected capital in tech shares, especially the American giants. He accused me of buying at the end of a bull-run and, in particular, at the top of the Big Tech bubble

    I replied he had a point, but where else can one invest with hope for growth? My main argument was that AI is surely going to prolong the bull run in tech, and that the Big 7 companies are now so large they will just buy AI rivals and talent, ensuring their success. They are very hard to topple

    This morning:

    HOW BIG TECH IS WINNING THE AI WAR



    So, where are you now, eh @truman???
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,394

    If Biden had helped Ukraine win the war in 2023 he could have had lower gas prices now.

    Much as I hope for the best in terms of US support, Ukraine and Europe have to learn to do without it.
    How? Russia being driven out of Ukraine would not necessarily have returned them to the bossom of the West and turned the gas taps back on.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    edited March 2024
    And for anyone who missed it, the result from the latest Saturday Morning Troll Hunt is in:

    24 posts in 45 mins (active from 11.16 to 12.01).
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,768

    Really? I'm not sure it plays terribly well with people who actually are broke. They keep getting it badly, badly wrong.

    There was an unexpectedly good essay on Radio 4 about this topic yesterday evening:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07vwr08
    Highly unexpected if it's John Gray.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,250

    That’s a verbose way of saying ‘yeah Brexit was won on a torrent of bullshit and this isn’t necessarily the Brexit I voted for but SOVEREIGNTEE!!!!’

    I’m still fucking livid I’ve lost my EU citizenship. I’m still fucking livid I’ve lost my FoM. I’m still fucking livid that the Tory EU-phobic psychodrama has turned me into a second class citizen on my own continent. I’m fucking livid that it has reduced the Tory Party to the fucking right-wing culture war mess it is, and the baleful impact that has had on this country with policies designed to appeal to the basest impulses of the worst part of our population.

    The main impact for me isn’t the economic impact - and though I don’t pretend to understand economics the most superficial google will bring you up reams of analysis of the massively detrimental impact of leaving the EU, particularly on small and medium businesses - including musicians who contribute so much to our economy - thanks in large part to new paperwork whose impact seems to be much larger than ‘very mildly worse’.

    I’m fucking livid that really, Brexit isn’t about economics. It’s a project designed to make us a more Conservative country, a more right-wing country. A smaller state country. That’s what its funders want, that’s what the Tories want. They sold Brexit on a pack of lies, on mutually exclusive torrents of horseshit, and by tipping a nod and a wink to the most reactionary parts of this country that all their prayers would be answered. And your ‘regret’, quite frankly, boils my piss.
    Then stop fucking moaning, you stupid Remoaner twat, and persuade Starmer to call a Rejoin election. You will never get a better chance. He will have a stonking majority, the polls will be all in his favour, he can turn around and sadly say “things are so bad we need to do this”, his honeymooning voters will forgive him, and besides 70% of them will agree with him. So this is it - this year - after the election, you can actually stop Remoaning and do it. Rejoin. The chance will not come again - ask Blair

    Except Starmer won’t do this. Why? BECAUSE he’s a Remoaner like you, and he’s terrified people will remember that he was Second Voter, he literally wanted to cancel democracy and annul the biggest democratic mandate in UK history. So he won’t go there and all you will do is carry on moaning. Cause you’re a Remoaner. It’s all you guys do

    There should be a word for Beyond Pathetic: that’s you
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,562
    edited March 2024
    Leon said:

    Just want to say that recently I was mocked by the brilliant and much-missed @truman for investing a hefty chunk of unexpected capital in tech shares, especially the American giants. He accused me of buying at the end of a bull-run and, in particular, at the top of the Big Tech bubble

    I replied he had a point, but where else can one invest with hope for growth? My main argument was that AI is surely going to prolong the bull run in tech, and that the Big 7 companies are now so large they will just buy AI rivals and talent, ensuring their success. They are very hard to topple

    This morning:

    HOW BIG TECH IS WINNING THE AI WAR



    So, where are you now, eh @truman???

    Crushed under the ban hammer, but he was fun while he lasted (unlike Clarkman, who was truly pathetic.)

    Btw, does anyone know why these trolls always turn up on Saturday morning? Does Vlad recruit them down the pub on a Friday night?
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331

    And for anyone who missed it, the result from the latest Saturday Morning Troll Hunt is in:

    24 posts in 45 mins (active from 11.16 to 12.01).

    And my personal highlight from this very brief innings was the suggestion of a causal link between the royal cancer diagnoses and the Covid Vaccine.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    pigeon said:

    Have we just had an entire troll outbreak in the time it's taken me to finish up at the gym, go home and back out shopping? I miss all the fun.

    All in the time it took me to watch one Formula 2 race.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 9,936

    Remainers: "Leavers are all backward-looking people obsessed with an idealised version of the 1950s that never existed."

    Also Remainers: "Richard the Lionheart, 12th century monarch of the Angevin Empire, would have voted Remain."
    Perhaps we should do all the UK monarchs. The Scottish ones would generally be for remain - "Auld Alliance" and all that.

    In fact, most of the English medieval ones were trying to develop European unions too.
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