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"Ah, my pet topic. I am in the process of writing a book on the British interventions in Southern Russia and the Caucasus under Dunsterville and Malleson at the end of the First World War. There are some amazing boys own tales about the campaigns."
Ah....only on Political Betting could you ever see this sentence and not be outrageously mocked
John Wheatley (specialist subject - Von Schlieffen and German Military Planning before 1914)0 -
Someone who wants the job said she went on a diet for the job. She might have gone on a diet for a lot of reasons.surbiton said:
edit: It's just a guess though, could be wrong.0 -
Good afternoon, everyone.
Sadly the Azarenka match is suspended due to rain, but she is 4-0 up in the first set, which is as splendid as a cat's pyjamas.0 -
Sunil,
this doctoral thesis from Finland covers the specific Caucasus and Don area campaigns and clearly in spite of government prohibitions there were British forces boots on the ground and wings in the air in support of Denikin in 1918/19.
https://helda.helsinki.fi/bitstream/handle/10138/26041/thebriti.pdf?sequence=1
I know that the British/Indian forces under Malleson got as far as Duskhak in south central Asia but were then forced back by the Reds.
I wrote an article that Nick P might remember many years ago in Wargames Illustrated about the Battle of Kaakha in what is now Turkmenistan.0 -
If the Swivel Eyed Loon is revealed to be very very close to Cameron he will be in severe trouble with his party. Then we may get a reshuffle earlier than expected. The right reshuffle embracing a wider circle with more Eurosceptics and social conservatives actually could improve the party's rating!
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What he might pack it in ? He doesn't need the money, of course. Why lead into an abysmal defeat with a bunch of loons !tim said:@IsabelOakeshott: No10 has gone very quiet re. loons. From experience this sort of silence usually pre-empts a resignation. But I may be wrong...
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You're assuming it's an elected official.TCPoliticalBetting said:If the Swivel Eyed Loon is revealed to be very very close to Cameron he will be in severe trouble with his party. Then we may get a reshuffle earlier than expected. The right reshuffle embracing a wider circle with more Eurosceptics and social conservatives actually could improve the party's rating!
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It sounds faintly familiar, Richard - not sure that one ever got gamed. Have you readRichard_Tyndall said:Sunil,
this doctoral thesis from Finland covers the specific Caucasus and Don area campaigns and clearly in spite of government prohibitions there were British forces boots on the ground and wings in the air in support of Denikin in 1918/19.
https://helda.helsinki.fi/bitstream/handle/10138/26041/thebriti.pdf?sequence=1
I know that the British/Indian forces under Malleson got as far as Duskhak in south central Asia but were then forced back by the Reds.
I wrote an article that Nick P might remember many years ago in Wargames Illustrated about the Battle of Kaakha in what is now Turkmenistan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Guard
- I remember seeing an evocative and not unsympathetic Russian film of it (considering that it's seen from the viewpoint of a White officer), made in the latter Soviet era - ends with the protagonist in Turkish exile, staring out from a cliff across the Black Sea, pining for his lost home.
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No, if it is the leading name rumoured and hinted at, it is very very senior and a post directly controlled by Cameron. If so the 1922 Committee may step in and demand a major change.TheWatcher said:You're assuming it's an elected official.
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Telegraph Politics @TelePolitics
Conservative party co-chairman Lord Feldman denies being responsible for comments describing grassroots activists as "swivel-eyed loons": PA
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WHO IS IT???!!!!TCPoliticalBetting said:Telegraph Politics @TelePolitics
Conservative party co-chairman Lord Feldman denies being responsible for comments describing grassroots activists as "swivel-eyed loons": PA
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Just had a leaflet from Andrea Jenkyns, the Conservative candidate for Morley & Outwood. Interesting, given the election is probably two years away.0
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With the last Labour PM calling a lady htat had voted Labour all her life " a bigoted woman", and people at the top of the Tory party calling their own acticists "swivel eyed loons", who can blame the proles for looking elswhere?0
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Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott 2hours ago
"If there's an official denial, colleagues who broke 'loongate' face professional dilemma: accept the claim they made it all up, or expose.."0 -
Former MP Rob Marris has been re-selected by Labour to stand in Wolverhampton South West.
Alun Pugh (AM for Clywd West 99-07 and 2010 Arfon candidate) won Arfon selection last night defeating Tal Michael (son of Alun, North Wales PCC candidate last year).
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O/T I see the Blair's private healthcare business has hit a stumbling block.
'More than a year after she controversially launched a multi-million-pound private healthcare venture, with plans to open clinics in supermarkets across the country, she has been hit by a succession of disappointing setbacks.
I can reveal that a Cayman Islands-based private equity fund Mrs Blair jointly founded to raise cash for the ambitious business project has raised only a fraction of the £75 million needed to finance the clinics she had set her heart on'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326445/Cheire-Blair-sets-private-health-company-tax-haven-U-S-Right-winger.html0 -
Thanks for the Finnish link Richard - but I actually bookmarked that several weeks ago! Very detailed stuff none the less!Richard_Tyndall said:Sunil,
this doctoral thesis from Finland covers the specific Caucasus and Don area campaigns and clearly in spite of government prohibitions there were British forces boots on the ground and wings in the air in support of Denikin in 1918/19.
https://helda.helsinki.fi/bitstream/handle/10138/26041/thebriti.pdf?sequence=1
I know that the British/Indian forces under Malleson got as far as Duskhak in south central Asia but were then forced back by the Reds.
I wrote an article that Nick P might remember many years ago in Wargames Illustrated about the Battle of Kaakha in what is now Turkmenistan.
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Sounds fascinating, hope you plug it here when it is done.Richard_Tyndall said:
Ah, my pet topic. I am in the process of writing a book on the British interventions in Southern Russia and the Caucasus under Dunsterville and Malleson at the end of the First World War. There are some amazing boys own tales about the campaigns.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You'd be surprised how much Russian territory British troops operated in during the Civil War (aftermath of WW1, of course).TheScreamingEagles said:
People often forget about Russia being in Europe.antifrank said:The main point about the geographical centre of Europe is that wherever it is, it's a lot further east than most people imagine. Russia is big.
On another site, a few years ago, when the topic of discussion of who was the UK's most natural ally in Europe I replied
"The Russians, we're the bookends of Europe that keep the Germans in their place"
Murmansk, Archangel in the far north, Novorossiysk, Krasnodar in the far south, as well as the current-day Caucasian nations, Turkmenistan, and along the Trans-Siberian Railway all the way in from Vladivostok as far as Omsk in Siberia. (I've also seen mentions of Brits in Yekaterinburg on Google but not too much info backing that up).
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Clarkson?surbiton said:So how many openly craves after Dave's job ? May, Hammond.
[snip...]
Any others
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Today Nick de Bois, secretary of the 1922 Committee of Conservative backbenchers, said: “This is the sort foolish comment by someone who has never worked in association and seen the tremendous, unpaid work these people do for our party.
“To throw a comment like this into a debate that has divided our party is an act of lunacy.”0 -
Dr. Prasannan, don't forget The Stig.0
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It has a hashtag
#swivelgate
Gawd knows how reliable this is
Heather Smart @gemini2359 52m
Did I hear right ?Geoffrey Vero just let slip on Skynews he thinks Gove was responsible 4 swivel-eyed loons comment ? #loongate #swivelgate0 -
'Politician tells the truth'.sam said:It has a hashtag
#swivelgate
Gawd knows how reliable this is
Heather Smart @gemini2359 52m
Did I hear right ?Geoffrey Vero just let slip on Skynews he thinks Gove was responsible 4 swivel-eyed loons comment ? #loongate #swivelgate
Most political activists are swivel eyed loons.
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Was it Feldman you had in mind?TCPoliticalBetting said:
No, if it is the leading name rumoured and hinted at, it is very very senior and a post directly controlled by Cameron. If so the 1922 Committee may step in and demand a major change.TheWatcher said:You're assuming it's an elected official.
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Gove might fit the reluctance of most (but not all) to name him.sam said:It has a hashtag
#swivelgate
Gawd knows how reliable this is
Heather Smart @gemini2359 52m
Did I hear right ?Geoffrey Vero just let slip on Skynews he thinks Gove was responsible 4 swivel-eyed loons comment ? #loongate #swivelgate0 -
There are a couple of options but with 4 newspapers involved it is probably a matter of waiting for the Sundays.NickPalmer said:
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Kipper falls on sword (though he sounds thick enough to have done it by accident). From the tone of his 'banter', I'm sure he'll always find a place on PB.
'“Plymouth UKIP man quits after calling Scots ‘workshy addicts’ in Twitter rant
A UKIP politician has “fallen on his sword”, after abusing Scots people on the social media site Twitter. Ron Northcott, a former election candidate in Plymouth for the UK Independence Party, resigned from the party yesterday. David Salmon, UKIP’s Plymouth chairman, said:
“Ron is not talking to any member of the press. I can say that following the appalling behaviour of some Scots against Nigel Farage, Ron was involved in what he describes as banter with a Scot living in London.
His out-of-character remark was unacceptable and he has stood down with immediate effect as a potential candidate for next years elections. We in no way condone his language and the sentiments expressed. He has stepped down and will be leaving UKIP.”'
http://tinyurl.com/cb3vgd9
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Can I just remind posters that there is a seriously tense test match on and even, for the frivolously minded, a singing competition of doubtful quality on tonight.
A sense of proportion is called for.0 -
Theuniondivvie said:
Kipper falls on sword (though he sounds thick enough to have done it by accident). From the tone of his 'banter', I'm sure he'll always find a place on PB.
'“Plymouth UKIP man quits after calling Scots ‘workshy addicts’ in Twitter rant
A UKIP politician has “fallen on his sword”, after abusing Scots people on the social media site Twitter. Ron Northcott, a former election candidate in Plymouth for the UK Independence Party, resigned from the party yesterday. David Salmon, UKIP’s Plymouth chairman, said:
“Ron is not talking to any member of the press. I can say that following the appalling behaviour of some Scots against Nigel Farage, Ron was involved in what he describes as banter with a Scot living in London.
His out-of-character remark was unacceptable and he has stood down with immediate effect as a potential candidate for next years elections. We in no way condone his language and the sentiments expressed. He has stepped down and will be leaving UKIP.”'
http://tinyurl.com/cb3vgd9
Oh dear.
Looking at the comments, its good to see the old Bernard Manning/Jim Davidson "born in a stable doesnt make it a horse" joke from the 70s has reached Scotland
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Isn't the stable/horse line from the Duke of Wellington, regarding his birth in Ireland?0
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Feldman has denied it.Can't see that its Gove or else the Press this am would have talked about a senior cabinet minister rather than someone in Cam's social circle.0
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I'm not overly familiar with the ouevres of Bernard and Jim, but I'll take your word for it.sam said:Oh dear.
Looking at the comments, its good to see the old Bernard Manning/Jim Davidson "born in a stable doesnt make it a horse" joke from the 70s has reached Scotland
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'And this years Orwell Prize for political writing is awarded to tim for 3,322 repetitious posts composed of children's nursery rhyme lyrics, and 1970's album covers'0
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Not sure of it origin, but it is the punchline to a racist joke... "Black/Asian/Whoever it is at the time" people think theyre English because they are born here...Morris_Dancer said:Isn't the stable/horse line from the Duke of Wellington, regarding his birth in Ireland?
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Indeed. At last Test Cricket is back, and it's pretty tight. Could prove crucial that slim 1st innings lead.DavidL said:Can I just remind posters that there is a seriously tense test match on and even, for the frivolously minded, a singing competition of doubtful quality on tonight.
A sense of proportion is called for.
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kle4 said:
Indeed. At last Test Cricket is back, and it's pretty tight. Could prove crucial that slim 1st innings lead.DavidL said:Can I just remind posters that there is a seriously tense test match on and even, for the frivolously minded, a singing competition of doubtful quality on tonight.
A sense of proportion is called for.
I am and it is.Theuniondivvie said:
I'm not overly familiar with the ouevres of Bernard and Jim, but I'll take your word for it.sam said:Oh dear.
Looking at the comments, its good to see the old Bernard Manning/Jim Davidson "born in a stable doesnt make it a horse" joke from the 70s has reached Scotland
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The draw was 5/6 on Betfair last night... only didnt lay that because I was worried about the weather, but regretting it nowkle4 said:
Indeed. At last Test Cricket is back, and it's pretty tight. Could prove crucial that slim 1st innings lead.DavidL said:Can I just remind posters that there is a seriously tense test match on and even, for the frivolously minded, a singing competition of doubtful quality on tonight.
A sense of proportion is called for.0 -
Vicky Foxcroft has won Labour nomination in Lewisham Deptford (Lab maj 30.3% in 2010 GE). As expected.
http://www.vickyfoxcroft.com/0 -
I don't doubt it for a minute.sam said:
I am
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Theuniondivvie said:
Haha pathetic smear
Well at least the Scottish Nats on that link you posted are catching up with out of date English humour now
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Do the English charge Scottish students to study in England, that is clearly singling out the Scottish , at least use a brain cell when spouting bigoted crap.Socrates said:
Alex Salmond has a policy of charging English people to study in Scotland and not-charging people of any other EU background. That's clearly singling out the English. UKIP don't want different treatment for different groups: they want to treat immigrants from Europe the same as immigrants not from Europe.SouthamObserver said:
People hear what they hear. They hear Salmond and right or wrongly they make a judgement. They hear Farage and they do the same thing. What was it that David Cameron said about UKIP? Is he really a member of the centre-left establishment?Socrates said:
This is because we live in an age where people are told repeatedly by the centre-left establishment that people opposing immigration dislike immigrants. I don't think Nigel Farage has ever criticised immigrants themselves, but I regularly see him described as "anti-immigrant" by journalists and establishment politicians. Its amazing how many people think he is xenophobic, which is somewhat bizarre as he's married to a German.SouthamObserver said:
She is - my business partner's wife is from Moravia. She may be wrong, but when she hears Farage speak she hears hostility towards her and people like her. Just as many English people hear hostility from Salmond and other SNP spokespeople.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You said she was a Czech!SouthamObserver said:
So not a central or eastern European then.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Actually Mrs Farage is a German.SouthamObserver said:
One of my business partners is a Northern Ireland protestant. He lives in London and dislikes Salmond intensely. He also dislikes Farage intensely because he has a Czech wife and, rightly or wrongly, believes UKIP to be distinctly hostile to central and eastern Europeans.0 -
Why? Who doesnt pay to study in England? English people domalcolmg said:
Do the English charge Scottish students to study in England, that is clearly singling out the Scottish , at least use a brain cell when spouting bigoted crap.Socrates said:
Alex Salmond has a policy of charging English people to study in Scotland and not-charging people of any other EU background. That's clearly singling out the English. UKIP don't want different treatment for different groups: they want to treat immigrants from Europe the same as immigrants not from Europe.SouthamObserver said:
People hear what they hear. They hear Salmond and right or wrongly they make a judgement. They hear Farage and they do the same thing. What was it that David Cameron said about UKIP? Is he really a member of the centre-left establishment?Socrates said:
This is because we live in an age where people are told repeatedly by the centre-left establishment that people opposing immigration dislike immigrants. I don't think Nigel Farage has ever criticised immigrants themselves, but I regularly see him described as "anti-immigrant" by journalists and establishment politicians. Its amazing how many people think he is xenophobic, which is somewhat bizarre as he's married to a German.SouthamObserver said:
She is - my business partner's wife is from Moravia. She may be wrong, but when she hears Farage speak she hears hostility towards her and people like her. Just as many English people hear hostility from Salmond and other SNP spokespeople.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You said she was a Czech!SouthamObserver said:
So not a central or eastern European then.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Actually Mrs Farage is a German.SouthamObserver said:
One of my business partners is a Northern Ireland protestant. He lives in London and dislikes Salmond intensely. He also dislikes Farage intensely because he has a Czech wife and, rightly or wrongly, believes UKIP to be distinctly hostile to central and eastern Europeans.
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A pathetic smear to not doubt what you've just stated about yourself?sam said:
Haha pathetic smear
Kippers seem to reside in a realm of paranoid, self-incriminating victimhood, from the leader down.
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