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  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,432
    edited December 2022
    ydoethur said:

    I am not familiar with a Barry White, but is it some kind of suicide apparatus?
    The Walrus of Luurve sings the best seduction music...
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,322
    ydoethur said:

    @Leon

    Your account has just been hacked by some form of AI.
    I thought that happened two years ago? Hence the cycling through aliens/woke/gpt3/covid etc.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,664

    Quite a few different arrangments of the overture, arias etc.
    https://www.brassband.co.uk/sheet-music/search/Marriage_of_Figaro
    Perhaps Die Walkure has been arranged for flute and bass guitar. Anything is possible.

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,839

    I thought that happened two years ago? Hence the cycling through aliens/woke/gpt3/covid etc.
    Nah, that's when @Byronic wants a go.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,414
    kinabalu said:

    Not quite. Brexit is like having a baby. Scottish Independence is opening a bottle of wine and putting on the Barry White.
    On that basis, Scottish independence should have preceded Brexit by nine months.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,664
    M45 said:

    The offence is dangerous, not reckless, driving. "Reckless" occurs once, by mistake, in RTA 1988.
    This is true but I wasn't charging per word and ran out of time and the will to live. Our American brethren seem to major of reckless driving offences.

    Informally the GovUK site regards reckless and dangerous as interchangeable words.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,138
    For info: Lincolnshire, Medway, North Devon, and South Holland will be counting tonight; Brighton, Colchester, and Dumfries and Galloway tomorrow.
  • DJ41DJ41 Posts: 792
    edited December 2022

    It's a joke because if the EU didn't already exist, people advocating the idea of a union of European countries would be accused of being white supremacists.
    During one of the "Tony Blair may be about to form a new centrist party" stories a few years ago, I thought what he said about Europe and the USA having it as their joint task to provide leadership to the world was indeed fairly honky, as honky stuff goes.

    No doubt he's closer in attitude to Goethe-flavoured German nationalism, though - most greats have been German but hey there have been others too and we can count them as honorary Germans [*] - than he is to outright "uber alles" German nationalism.

    It's still f***ing honky, though, the idea of those countries leading the world, showing Africa, Latin America, and Asia what's what. And the Middle East - how did that one go for Blair? Then there's Cathay or whatever it's called.

    *) Or in Britspeak, "We need the clever XXXs on our side". (And playing cricket.)
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,839
    algarkirk said:

    This is true but I wasn't charging per word and ran out of time and the will to live. Our American brethren seem to major of reckless driving offences.

    Informally the GovUK site regards reckless and dangerous as interchangeable words.
    Careless of them.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,216
    kinabalu said:

    Not quite. Brexit is like having a baby. Scottish Independence is opening a bottle of wine and putting on the Barry White.
    That's possibly a worse metaphor than Leon's.
    Though far more pleasant.
  • Not sure I get the link between Scottish independence and sex. Unless you mean a one night stand that's great whilst it lasts and you then spend the rest of your life regretting.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,216
    The perfect Xmas gift for Apple fan @TheScreamingEagles ?

    Not your standard iPad Pro case. Combining @Apple silicon with
    @nanopore technology for mobile DNA/RNA sequencing. The future is here

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Kieran_Hejmadi/status/1600518303507685380

    Pretty amazing portable sequencing kit.
  • DJ41DJ41 Posts: 792
    edited December 2022

    Not sure I get the link between Scottish independence and sex. Unless you mean a one night stand that's great whilst it lasts and you then spend the rest of your life regretting.

    It probably won't get to the point where Sturgeon as FM treats the next British GE as a referendum and then declares UDI - which is the idea she's been spreading - but if that does happen I can guarantee there will be NO spirit of euphoria that manifests across the whole of Scotland. The Orange Order for starters won't take it lying on their backs.

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,613
    Nigelb said:

    The perfect Xmas gift for Apple fan @TheScreamingEagles ?

    Not your standard iPad Pro case. Combining @Apple silicon with
    @nanopore technology for mobile DNA/RNA sequencing. The future is here

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Kieran_Hejmadi/status/1600518303507685380

    Pretty amazing portable sequencing kit.

    What on earth is the market that is aimed at? Maitres d'hote during the next epidemic? Checking out if your new potential boy/girlfriend has the crabs or worse?
  • BozzaBozza Posts: 37

    Not sure I get the link between Scottish independence and sex. Unless you mean a one night stand that's great whilst it lasts and you then spend the rest of your life regretting.

    Independence would be both regrettable and irreversible, like an incurable STI.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,414
    DJ41 said:

    It probably won't get to the point where Sturgeon as FM treats the next British GE as a referendum and then declares UDI - which is the idea she's been spreading - but if that does happen I can guarantee there will be NO spirit of euphoria that manifests across the whole of Scotland. The Orange Order for starters won't take it lying on their backs.

    Democracy is fucked if it relies on the Orange Order. Look at the denial of democracy caused by the DUP in the North of Ireland.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,414
    Bozza said:

    Independence would be both regrettable and irreversible, like an incurable STI.
    Only if you’re English and relying on Scotland to continue to subsidise Tory incompetent, corrupt fuckups.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 9,340
    rcs1000 said:

    Agreed re Harris: it would clearly benefit her (and disadvantage Buttigieg) in the event of Biden not standing and South Carolina going first
    Did you solve the problem you were concerned about?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,216
    Bozza said:

    Independence would be both regrettable and irreversible, like an incurable STI.
    That's very much from the lower layers of your pyramid of piffle.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,414
    Nigelb said:

    That's very much from the lower layers of your pyramid of piffle.
    It is the real Bozza, and not just a bot. Nobody else could possibly be that thick and deluded, except a particularly stupid Putin bot.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,216
    Carnyx said:

    What on earth is the market that is aimed at? Maitres d'hote during the next epidemic? Checking out if your new potential boy/girlfriend has the crabs or worse?
    Just a small step on the road to the Star Trek medical tricorder.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,322
    Crikey, has pb died? No one anything to say tonight?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,613

    Crikey, has pb died? No one anything to say tonight?

    The AI blew a fuse?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,613
    Carnyx said:

    The AI blew a fuse?
    PS: nice monkey news.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/dec/08/jungle-trek-first-ever-photo-congo-bouviers-red-colobus-monkey-aoe
  • Crikey, has pb died? No one anything to say tonight?

    Football. Must... have... football...
  • Crikey, has pb died? No one anything to say tonight?

    I'm writing one of Sunday's threads.

    Not going to lie, the headline is the best one I've ever written.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,839

    I'm writing one of Sunday's threads.

    Not going to lie, the headline is the best one I've ever written.
    It's not about AV, is it?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,839
    Carnyx said:

    The AI blew a fuse?
    More likely the AI blew Leon.
  • ydoethur said:

    It's not about AV, is it?
    Japanese AV? :innocent:
  • ydoethur said:

    It's not about AV, is it?
    No, it's about betting.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,839

    No, it's about betting.
    Good gracious. What are the odds?
  • Nigelb said:

    Just a small step on the road to the Star Trek medical tricorder.
    This is me.


  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,852
    Carnyx said:

    What on earth is the market that is aimed at? Maitres d'hote during the next epidemic? Checking out if your new potential boy/girlfriend has the crabs or worse?
    I should imagine they'll be pretty useful for ecological fieldwork if nothing else, depending on how expensive it is per sample.

    The main thing is lowering the cost, though. I would imagine we'll be sequencing every cancer cell very soon (if we aren't already).
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,559
    The BBC seem to be spending more time plugging a show on Netflix than on any of their own programmes.

    I imagine that more people will watch Pointless Celebrities than Mr and Mrs Mountbatten.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,839

    The BBC seem to be spending more time plugging a show on Netflix than on any of their own programmes.

    I imagine that more people will watch Pointless Celebrities than Mr and Mrs Mountbatten.

    Isn't there a paradox in that sentence?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,559
    ydoethur said:

    Isn't there a paradox in that sentence?
    My choice of BBC programme was indeed deliberate.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,559

    Football. Must... have... football...
    Weren't you watching Gillingham v Dagenham?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,613

    I should imagine they'll be pretty useful for ecological fieldwork if nothing else, depending on how expensive it is per sample.

    The main thing is lowering the cost, though. I would imagine we'll be sequencing every cancer cell very soon (if we aren't already).
    Oh, yes, I can see that - beats packing up a few thousand turds/worms/parasites/etc if you can sample them fresh on the spot.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,839

    My choice of BBC programme was indeed deliberate.
    I suppose I shouldn't have been soaprised.

    Good night.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,912
    Maybe ChatGPT could be asked to write an essay on the outcome of the next US presidential election.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,292
    Mid evening all :)

    To try to break the monotony with one of my tedious ramblings might be the epitome of throwing good bandwidth after bad...

    Harry and Meghan have never bothered me - I quite like them. I made the ultimate faux pas of saying this among friends at lunch last Saturday - I'd have been better off shouting "Down with Big Brother" at the 15-minute Hate in all honesty. You could even say something positive about Jeremy Corbyn and get a better reaction than I got.

    The poor woman has been vilified in a way usually reserved for Labour Party leaders or participants in "I'm A Celebrity".

    It seems, despite Mark Harper's "efforts", the trains won't be running next week. Did he seriously think an 8% offer, over two years, was going to be greeted with gratitude by the RMT? I see the Mail has started to play up the "Labour are in the Unions pocket" line and after Zahawi's atrocious comments last weekend, the stench of desperation or Lynton Crosby seems to be prevailing the Conservative Party.

    The average pounding received by @TSE's dockside hooker will be as nothing compared to the metaphorical tarring and feathering rounded off by ritual disembowelling inflicted on the Conservatives at the next election - well, perhaps.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,559
    Just looking at the Covid data. The uptake of the autumn booster among those in their 50s and early 60s has been a bit shite.

    There has also been a lack of a public information campaign to persuade the daft buggers to get jabbed.

    Will this lead to an uptick in cases over the winter? Hmmmm.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,414
    ydoethur said:

    Isn't there a paradox in that sentence?
    They won’t always be celebrities. They’ll always be pointless.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,613
    stodge said:

    Mid evening all :)

    To try to break the monotony with one of my tedious ramblings might be the epitome of throwing good bandwidth after bad...

    Harry and Meghan have never bothered me - I quite like them. I made the ultimate faux pas of saying this among friends at lunch last Saturday - I'd have been better off shouting "Down with Big Brother" at the 15-minute Hate in all honesty. You could even say something positive about Jeremy Corbyn and get a better reaction than I got.

    The poor woman has been vilified in a way usually reserved for Labour Party leaders or participants in "I'm A Celebrity".

    It seems, despite Mark Harper's "efforts", the trains won't be running next week. Did he seriously think an 8% offer, over two years, was going to be greeted with gratitude by the RMT? I see the Mail has started to play up the "Labour are in the Unions pocket" line and after Zahawi's atrocious comments last weekend, the stench of desperation or Lynton Crosby seems to be prevailing the Conservative Party.

    The average pounding received by @TSE's dockside hooker will be as nothing compared to the metaphorical tarring and feathering rounded off by ritual disembowelling inflicted on the Conservatives at the next election - well, perhaps.

    Hmm. Did you see the Graun cartoon?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2022/dec/08/ben-jennings-meghan-harry-netflix-documentary-cartoon
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,472

    It's a joke because if the EU didn't already exist, people advocating the idea of a union of European countries would be accused of being white supremacists.
    A few quite mainstream French politicians opposed the Turkish entry into the EU on the grounds that it was an organisation for “European Christian countries”.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,414

    Just looking at the Covid data. The uptake of the autumn booster among those in their 50s and early 60s has been a bit shite.

    There has also been a lack of a public information campaign to persuade the daft buggers to get jabbed.

    Will this lead to an uptick in cases over the winter? Hmmmm.

    Has the Government finally realised the advantages of letting oldies die off? Does that mean they know they’ve lost the next election?
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,322

    Just looking at the Covid data. The uptake of the autumn booster among those in their 50s and early 60s has been a bit shite.

    There has also been a lack of a public information campaign to persuade the daft buggers to get jabbed.

    Will this lead to an uptick in cases over the winter? Hmmmm.

    I think we are entering an interesting phase re covid. We are seeing an increase in admissions again, primarily variant driven. Schools will shut for a couple of weeks over Christmas which might slow things down. The vast majority of people have antibodies of some kind against covid. Virtually no one is going up against the virus without protection.
    People will still die, but it will be primarily those that would die from pneumonia or some other death bringer.
    Viruses have a limited envelope of mutations. They simply cannot keep getting better and better at infecting people with antibodies without eventually some cost to their fitness. We saw this with omicron. Increased ability to infect but a transition to the upper respiratory system, at least in most people.
    What does this lead to? Potentially covid recedes from being something we all need repeated vaccination against to something only those more at risk need it. Such as those who currently get the flu shots. If those who are offered don’t take it up, then they have only themselves to blame.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,613

    Has the Government finally realised the advantages of letting oldies die off? Does that mean they know they’ve lost the next election?
    Not much point in Tory Party activists ferociously defending inheritance tax allowances otherwise, is there?
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,852
    Carnyx said:

    Oh, yes, I can see that - beats packing up a few thousand turds/worms/parasites/etc if you can sample them fresh on the spot.
    Yes. There's an awful lot we could learn if sequencing becomes cheap, easy, and portable. It might not change the world exactly but it will make a big difference to our understanding of the natural environment.

    Mrs Flatlander always tells me she'll eventually be made redundant by this (she is a field ecologist) but it will still need someone willing to fight their way through the brambles (of whichever particular subspecies) to get the samples...
  • stodge said:

    Mid evening all :)

    To try to break the monotony with one of my tedious ramblings might be the epitome of throwing good bandwidth after bad...

    Harry and Meghan have never bothered me - I quite like them. I made the ultimate faux pas of saying this among friends at lunch last Saturday - I'd have been better off shouting "Down with Big Brother" at the 15-minute Hate in all honesty. You could even say something positive about Jeremy Corbyn and get a better reaction than I got.

    The poor woman has been vilified in a way usually reserved for Labour Party leaders or participants in "I'm A Celebrity".

    It seems, despite Mark Harper's "efforts", the trains won't be running next week. Did he seriously think an 8% offer, over two years, was going to be greeted with gratitude by the RMT? I see the Mail has started to play up the "Labour are in the Unions pocket" line and after Zahawi's atrocious comments last weekend, the stench of desperation or Lynton Crosby seems to be prevailing the Conservative Party.

    The average pounding received by @TSE's dockside hooker will be as nothing compared to the metaphorical tarring and feathering rounded off by ritual disembowelling inflicted on the Conservatives at the next election - well, perhaps.

    The suggestion is that Number 10 (Lynton Crosby?) sabotaged a possible rail deal. If so, they calculate voters will blame Labour for rail strikes. I can't see it myself.
  • Andy_JS said:

    Maybe ChatGPT could be asked to write an essay on the outcome of the next US presidential election.

    Writing a PB header (on politics, with betting) would be an interesting test for ChatGPT.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,613

    The suggestion is that Number 10 (Lynton Crosby?) sabotaged a possible rail deal. If so, they calculate voters will blame Labour for rail strikes. I can't see it myself.
    More on this here.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/dec/08/mick-lynch-government-is-deliberately-ensuring-rail-strikes-go-ahead
  • TresTres Posts: 2,755

    The suggestion is that Number 10 (Lynton Crosby?) sabotaged a possible rail deal. If so, they calculate voters will blame Labour for rail strikes. I can't see it myself.
    they could have done a deal in the summer but the tories opted to implode instead
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 75,216
    edited December 2022
    There are tentative signs of hope regarding the case before the Supreme Coirt which threatened to significantly undermine US democracy.
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/12/kagan-court-back-from-brink-democracy.html

    This article does a very good job of explaining what’s at stake.
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/12/supreme-court-elections-legislature-trump-north-carolina.html
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,080
    Carnyx said:

    More on this here.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/dec/08/mick-lynch-government-is-deliberately-ensuring-rail-strikes-go-ahead
    I think the old playbook won’t work. I mean, fascinating to see them try.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,768
    edited December 2022

    Writing a PB header (on politics, with betting) would be an interesting test for ChatGPT.
    It reveals chat GPT to be just like our politicians - able to waffle inaccurately on any subject with the confidence of the articulate fool:

    ****

    Election 2022: Who will come out on top?

    With the 2022 elections just around the corner, political pundits and betting enthusiasts alike are closely watching the race to see who will come out on top. The current frontrunners are incumbent Prime Minister Boris Johnson and challenger Keir Starmer, but with a volatile political climate and unpredictable voter turnout, anything can happen.

    One factor that could impact the outcome is the state of the economy. Prime Minister Johnson has faced criticism for his handling of the recession, while Starmer has promised to focus on job creation and economic growth if elected. Another key issue is healthcare, with Starmer advocating for universal coverage and Johnson pushing for a more market-based approach.

    As the campaigns heat up and the election draws near, the latest betting odds show Johnson and Starmer neck and neck, with each candidate having a 50% chance of winning. However, with the unpredictable nature of politics, these odds are likely to shift as new information and events come to light.

    ETA: missed the last paragraph!
  • TresTres Posts: 2,755
    I see chatGPT is about as up to date with UK politics as Leon is with mapping technology.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,456

    I think the old playbook won’t work. I mean, fascinating to see them try.
    If they get properly rumbled in public opinion trying this then it’s going to be another nail in the coffin.

    Faffing around playing playground games while the country grinds to a halt will get them a well deserved kicking. And the trouble for the Tories is people just aren’t inclined to believe them or give the benefit of the doubt
    anymore.
  • M45M45 Posts: 216

    Yes. There's an awful lot we could learn if sequencing becomes cheap, easy, and portable. It might not change the world exactly but it will make a big difference to our understanding of the natural environment.

    Mrs Flatlander always tells me she'll eventually be made redundant by this (she is a field ecologist) but it will still need someone willing to fight their way through the brambles (of whichever particular subspecies) to get the samples...
    Brambles are more genetically insane, than anything you get to by fighting through them. Pretty much every plant is a new subspecies.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,768
    TimS said:

    If they get properly rumbled in public opinion trying this then it’s going to be another nail in the coffin.

    Faffing around playing playground games while the country grinds to a halt will get them a well deserved kicking. And the trouble for the Tories is people just aren’t inclined to believe them or give the benefit of the doubt
    anymore.
    It's going to be interesting to see the YouGov polling on this through the winter.

    I suspect there's going to be a clear majority blaming ["The Government" + "Both Equally"] which is net bad for the Government.
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,069

    I hate driving overseas which is why I’ve given it up.

    Muscle memory kicks in and I start veering to our side of the road.

    You could try Australia, New Zealand, Japan or India then.
  • M45M45 Posts: 216

    Sorry but that link strongly suggests a custodial sentence, which I am sure would have been given if there was any prospect of her having the guts to accept responsibility. She is a craven coward.
    Harsh

    Have you never done anything as bad as that, but got away with it?
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,069

    I think the old playbook won’t work. I mean, fascinating to see them try.
    The Major government discoverd this in the mid 90s. After almost 20 Years of the Conservatives having success with demonising strikes, the few strikes that could legally be organised were usually for legitimate reasons, and so the public were annoyed with the strikes but sympathetic for the reasons for striking. This came as a big surprise to the government of 15 years who had dined out on the public regarding "strikes=bad".
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,432

    Just looking at the Covid data. The uptake of the autumn booster among those in their 50s and early 60s has been a bit shite.

    There has also been a lack of a public information campaign to persuade the daft buggers to get jabbed.

    Will this lead to an uptick in cases over the winter? Hmmmm.

    It has ticked up a bit. 110 cases in my hospital now, up from 60 a month ago. It hit nearly 200 early October. Lots of other respiratory ailments.

    One of my neighbours had seven hours in children's ED with her 7 month baby with a temp of 39.5. Ram packed with poorly kids, several with scarlet fever and a lot of anxiety about the nasty Streptococcus. 2 paeds doctors on so long waits but the nurses doing sterling work assessing and monitoring a heaving waiting area. Well worth a 7% real terms pay cut. They should have got jobs on hedge funds if they wanted to get rich I suppose.

  • I think the old playbook won’t work. I mean, fascinating to see them try.
    The Conservatives may think they've got the "Maggie in the 80's" playbook.

    Unfortunately, it looks a bit like they have accidentally grabbed the "Heath in '73/4" version instead.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,299

    Not sure I get the link between Scottish independence and sex. Unless you mean a one night stand that's great whilst it lasts and you then spend the rest of your life regretting.

    Not one of my best since I have to explain - the Sindy 'baby' is in preconception is what I meant!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,432
    edited December 2022
    eristdoof said:

    You could try Australia, New Zealand, Japan or India then.
    Much of Anglophone Africa too, as well as the Pakistan and Indonesia.

    Mind you in a lot of these places driving only on one side of the road is more a theoretical constraint than a practical one.

  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,414
    Foxy said:

    It has ticked up a bit. 110 cases in my hospital now, up from 60 a month ago. It hit nearly 200 early October. Lots of other respiratory ailments.

    One of my neighbours had seven hours in children's ED with her 7 month baby with a temp of 39.5. Ram packed with poorly kids, several with scarlet fever and a lot of anxiety about the nasty Streptococcus. 2 paeds doctors on so long waits but the nurses doing sterling work assessing and monitoring a heaving waiting area. Well worth a 7% real terms pay cut. They should have got jobs on hedge funds if they wanted to get rich I suppose.

    Each doctor is more valuable than 100 hedge fund managers, despite what @HYUFD may try to tell us.
  • M45M45 Posts: 216
    This is just nasty and unbecoming. Meghan looks like a school bully.

    https://twitter.com/benjaminbutter/status/1600875945174487040

    Exactly right. If you don't like curtseying to monarchs don't marry their grandsons.

    Harry looks pretty unamused.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,299
    ohnotnow said:

    Thank goodness.
    Yes, enough damage for one day from that direction.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,712

    Just looking at the Covid data. The uptake of the autumn booster among those in their 50s and early 60s has been a bit shite.

    There has also been a lack of a public information campaign to persuade the daft buggers to get jabbed.

    Will this lead to an uptick in cases over the winter? Hmmmm.

    Me and my much better half have both got Covid at the moment, for the first time; grandson is the prime infection culprit. It's certainly debilitating and rather unpleasant, but not too bad. We're both fully vaccinated and boosted, so I guess that's not much deterrence from getting the thing. I'm assuming that, as an oldie, the vaccines have kicked in to make it not so bad.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,281

    Each doctor is more valuable than 100 hedge fund managers, despite what @HYUFD may try to tell us.
    It is the tax hedge fund managers pay that helps keep the NHS going (and private doctors fees too if they have private health insurance)
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,432

    Me and my much better half have both got Covid at the moment, for the first time; grandson is the prime infection culprit. It's certainly debilitating and rather unpleasant, but not too bad. We're both fully vaccinated and boosted, so I guess that's not much deterrence from getting the thing. I'm assuming that, as an oldie, the vaccines have kicked in to make it not so bad.
    Yes, vaccination doesn't stop you getting it completely, but does prime the immune system to knock it on the head quickly and less severely. Between vaccination and infection there aren't many immunological naive left outside China.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,281
    stodge said:

    Mid evening all :)

    To try to break the monotony with one of my tedious ramblings might be the epitome of throwing good bandwidth after bad...

    Harry and Meghan have never bothered me - I quite like them. I made the ultimate faux pas of saying this among friends at lunch last Saturday - I'd have been better off shouting "Down with Big Brother" at the 15-minute Hate in all honesty. You could even say something positive about Jeremy Corbyn and get a better reaction than I got.

    The poor woman has been vilified in a way usually reserved for Labour Party leaders or participants in "I'm A Celebrity".

    It seems, despite Mark Harper's "efforts", the trains won't be running next week. Did he seriously think an 8% offer, over two years, was going to be greeted with gratitude by the RMT? I see the Mail has started to play up the "Labour are in the Unions pocket" line and after Zahawi's atrocious comments last weekend, the stench of desperation or Lynton Crosby seems to be prevailing the Conservative Party.

    The average pounding received by @TSE's dockside hooker will be as nothing compared to the metaphorical tarring and feathering rounded off by ritual disembowelling inflicted on the Conservatives at the next election - well, perhaps.

    The more there is fear of militant unions again the better for the Tories actually
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,281

    Only if you’re English and relying on Scotland to continue to subsidise Tory incompetent, corrupt fuckups.
    Scotland gets net subsidy from Westminster not the other way round
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,432
    HYUFD said:

    It is the tax hedge fund managers pay that helps keep the NHS going (and private doctors fees too if they have private health insurance)
    Yes, they richly deserve their unlimited bonuses for their selfless work.

    (Strangely the government doesn't seem bothered about their inflation busting rise in bonuses. I wonder why?)
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,559
    HYUFD said:

    The more there is fear of militant unions again the better for the Tories actually
    I can only see militancy on one side. And it's not from the folk trying to avoid a real terms pay cut.

    Goodnight all.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,852
    M45 said:

    Brambles are more genetically insane, than anything you get to by fighting through them. Pretty much every plant is a new subspecies.
    Indeed! Although Hawkweeds might give them a run for their money.

    The local bramble expert here is well into his 80s and I don't know who is going to replace him. Perhaps there's too many distractions for the type of person who might spend a lot of time learning this stuff these days? He's technically only an 'amateur'.

    We probably will have to rely on DNA sampling before long, whether we want to or not.

    [ Though someone had a go at writing a key here: http://www.jnecology.uk/rubus/ ]

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,432
    HYUFD said:

    The more there is fear of militant unions again the better for the Tories actually
    Even 30% of Con voters support the Paramedics striking. It is not so simple as you claim.


  • Nigelb said:

    There are tentative signs of hope regarding the case before the Supreme Coirt which threatened to significantly undermine US democracy.
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/12/kagan-court-back-from-brink-democracy.html

    This article does a very good job of explaining what’s at stake.
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/12/supreme-court-elections-legislature-trump-north-carolina.html

    We shall see. There seemed to be an element of wishful thinking by Slate.
  • M45M45 Posts: 216
    Foxy said:

    Yes, they richly deserve their unlimited bonuses for their selfless work.

    (Strangely the government doesn't seem bothered about their inflation busting rise in bonuses. I wonder why?)
    Because the government doesn't pay them, but rather gets 45% tax off them? I would prefer it to be 50%, sure, but I would also prefer to see doctors whose selfless, Hippocratic dedication to the preservation of life and health did not fall off a cliff once their pension fund bumped in to the derisory £1.2m limit or whatever it is.

  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,110
    Meghan seems like an incredibly unpleasant character.
  • TresTres Posts: 2,755

    Meghan seems like an incredibly unpleasant character.

    Anyone who winds up the likes of Piers Morgan and Farage is alright by me.
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 4,953
    M45 said:

    This is just nasty and unbecoming. Meghan looks like a school bully.

    https://twitter.com/benjaminbutter/status/1600875945174487040

    Exactly right. If you don't like curtseying to monarchs don't marry their grandsons.

    Harry looks pretty unamused.

    I wonder why anyone is giving this narcissist and Mr Hewitt Jnr. the oxygen of publicity. Best to just ignore them.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,414
    HYUFD said:

    It is the tax hedge fund managers pay that helps keep the NHS going (and private doctors fees too if they have private health insurance)
    You’re good at quoting statistics, @HYUFD. What percentage of tax is paid by hedge fund managers and what percentage is paid by NHS workers?
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,110
    Tres said:

    Anyone who winds up the likes of Piers Morgan and Farage is alright by me.
    Me too, usually. Plus the Daily Mail.
    On paper I want to support her.
    However, she appears to be a sociopath.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,414
    HYUFD said:

    Scotland gets net subsidy from Westminster not the other way round
    Then why not accept Scottish independence and save yourself some money? It would allow you to reduce hedge fund managers’ tax burden?
  • DJ41DJ41 Posts: 792
    Some of the Schengen countries have amazingly low barriers for residency. Seems that any digital nomad with €27K in the bank, who may for example work for their own company, can get a 12-month permit in Croatia and pay 0% income tax. Meanwhile a layabout (who mustn't do any paid work) can get a Non-Lucrative visa from Spain if they're able to show a similar amount in the bank. This is mental.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,110
    DJ41 said:

    Some of the Schengen countries have amazingly low barriers for residency. Seems that any digital nomad with €27K in the bank, who may for example work for their own company, can get a 12-month permit in Croatia and pay 0% income tax. Meanwhile a layabout (who mustn't do any paid work) can get a Non-Lucrative visa from Spain if they're able to show a similar amount in the bank. This is mental.

    Why?
  • M45M45 Posts: 216
    Tres said:

    Anyone who winds up the likes of Piers Morgan and Farage is alright by me.
    We can only hope that with the onset of adulthood, you will have the pleasant surprise of discovering the joy of first-hand opinions.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,414
    M45 said:

    We can only hope that with the onset of adulthood, you will have the pleasant surprise of discovering the joy of first-hand opinions.
    As as adult with the joy of a first hand opinion, my opinion is that the world would be a better place if Morgan and especially Farage didn’t exist.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,160
    M45 said:

    This is just nasty and unbecoming. Meghan looks like a school bully.

    https://twitter.com/benjaminbutter/status/1600875945174487040

    Exactly right. If you don't like curtseying to monarchs don't marry their grandsons.

    Harry looks pretty unamused.

    Good for her. Ni Dieu, ni maître, as Faure said.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,199
    M45 said:

    This is just nasty and unbecoming. Meghan looks like a school bully.

    https://twitter.com/benjaminbutter/status/1600875945174487040

    Exactly right. If you don't like curtseying to monarchs don't marry their grandsons.

    Harry looks pretty unamused.

    He looks like he wants to punch himself in the face.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,138
    A Con gain in South Holland. Not really surprising as it is in one of the most Conservative constituencies in the country.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,138
    Also not surprising - a LD gain in North Devon.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,914
    Tres said:

    I see chatGPT is about as up to date with UK politics as Leon is with mapping technology.

    You stupid twats. ChatGPT is trained on data up to July 2021. That's why it is outdated. It has no access to the internet

    Honestly, look at the state of this thread tonight. The comments. Boring, jejune, childish, unfunny, and this one here by you

    No wonder PB is dying. SHAPE UP
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 4,953

    Me too, usually. Plus the Daily Mail.
    On paper I want to support her.
    However, she appears to be a sociopath.
    Man with self-esteem issues and a BPD mother ends up in a destructive relationship with an NPD woman who takes advantage of him.

    Not an unusual story, only notable because the individuals involved are famous.

    It's a sad story repeated often, however without the fame angle it's not a newsworthy story.
  • M45M45 Posts: 216
    kyf_100 said:

    I wonder why anyone is giving this narcissist and Mr Hewitt Jnr. the oxygen of publicity. Best to just ignore them.
    We have to talk about something, and nothing else seems to have caught PB's attention this evening.

    I think that clip Ratners her; the combination of malicious glee from her, obvious discomfort from Hazza, and contempt for the Queen (the proper one, not Charles's frump) is a killer. This time next week they will be Mr and Mrs Windsor.
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,138
    slade said:

    Also not surprising - a LD gain in North Devon.

    Gives the Lib Dems control of the council.
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