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Voting for least worst, this reaches new depths.Peter_the_Punter said:
It's like one of those horse races where the form suggests that none of them are good enough to win, but somebody has to.TCPoliticalBetting said:What professional company would hire Ed Milliband as their Company representative? He is at best a back room ops person that should not be put in front of customers. To think that he is heading to be the PM and representative of the UK, is one of those scarcely believable facts.
Or, as Sherlock Holmes might have said, 'When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth".
Ed Is Crap is PM, however improbable that may appear.
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Presumably Ed's speech is a disaster?0
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That's a hideous rumour.. ed is a happily married man you know!!Scott_P said:@ollybarratt: RT @TheSunNewspaper: Did you meet Ed Miliband in a park this week? If so, get in touch...
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Was it arranged through Gaydar?Scott_P said:@ollybarratt: RT @TheSunNewspaper: Did you meet Ed Miliband in a park this week? If so, get in touch...
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"The quiet man's turning up the lisping"Casino_Royale said:This reminds me of the IDS speech to Conference in 2003. And we know how that ended.
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Years ago Henry M sent a message from a G Brown speech along the lines of 'make it stop'.... I hope he's not in the audience today.0
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Errr...
He just said 20% of working people are on low pay
Now he has said that he is going to abolish low pay by 2025 - taking 2 million people out of low pay.
So we only have 10 million people in work by Ed's figures...
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Can't watch the speech via the BBC website - just says "Content not available"
Or perhaps that's just their verdict on it?0 -
Miliband wants to halve the numbers of those in low pay. Not said how, though...0
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This may be connected:Richard_Nabavi said:Am I right in thinking that Dan Hodges is not going to be terribly impressed?
"@JohnRentoul: Labour member texts to say: "This is the worst speech I have ever heard. In the Manchester hotel I'm in, people are laughing openingly." "
Since I'm not watching, I can't comment personally either way. What is apparent is how keen the commentariat are to see Ed Miliband fail today. That in itself is important.0 -
80 minutes though? I'm reminded of some saying about how "quantity has a quality all of its own".Casino_Royale said:This reminds me of the IDS speech to Conference in 2003. And we know how that ended.
Maybe it's an exercise in brain-washing?0 -
That's a factually accurate statement.Bob__Sykes said:Can't watch the speech via the BBC website - just says "Content not available"
Or perhaps that's just their verdict on it?0 -
So how did he get on, Isam?isam said:
Probably, although you would be amazed at how many big punters take worse odds than betfairPeter_the_Punter said:Just listened to the interview with the punter who had 900,000 on No in the referendum, having missed the thread completely.
Don't know about anybody else, but he didn't pass the smell test as far as I was concerned. He took 1/4 about an outcome that was as big as 2/5 for a while; he used a Bookie, rather than Betfair, where there was ample liquidity available; he didn't sound or talk like a punter; and he got on for a mega-amount with a firm that regularly knocks back fifty pound punters.
We sure this wasn't just a Hills PR stunt?
Why would anyone, ever take bookie odds when betfair was better?? Mystifying
I can't get 900p on with Hills. Can you?
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They had to be woken out of the stunned trance that he had placed them into, aka asleep.Casino_Royale said:Shit. He just had to do it again. Prompt his own conference on The Tories! "Are THE TORIES the answer?!"... *applause* "That's better!"
The conference delegates are obviously deeply moved by him. They probably aren't sure he's the answer.
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Are you betting on that, Peter?Peter_the_Punter said:
It's like one of those horse races where the form suggests that none of them are good enough to win, but somebody has to.TCPoliticalBetting said:What professional company would hire Ed Milliband as their Company representative? He is at best a back room ops person that should not be put in front of customers. To think that he is heading to be the PM and representative of the UK, is one of those scarcely believable facts.
Or, as Sherlock Holmes might have said, 'When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth".
Ed Is Crap is PM, however improbable that may appear.0 -
Mr. Sykes, should be on both the news channel and BBC2.
'The principle of Together' is not an explanation of how many better paid jobs will magically appear.
Edited extra bit: he wants to break up big banks.0 -
this is a truly awful speech, all over the place. Listening on radio... but struggling to see any shape or direction. Or policy for that matter0
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@gabyhinsliff: My phone battery is going to die before this speech does. It is not impossible I will die before this speech does.
@anntreneman: Oh god I've already forgotten the first 10 year goal of Ed's Principle of Together Plan for Britain0 -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbctwoBob__Sykes said:Can't watch the speech via the BBC website - just says "Content not available"
Or perhaps that's just their verdict on it?
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33 minutes in and there is still no policy detail at all.DaemonBarber said:this is a truly awful speech, all over the place. Listening on radio... but struggling to see any shape or direction. Or policy for that matter
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By firing them ?Morris_Dancer said:Miliband wants to halve the numbers of those in low pay. Not said how, though...
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Equal rights for the self-employed in Britain.0
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Hmm. I wonder if I should tweet Ed Miliband and ask him to buy my books, to help out a self-employed man.
Edited extra bit: All carbon out of electricity by 2030, apparently.0 -
Mary Ann Seighart:
Equal rights for the self-employed. Against whom? Themselves?
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"Equal rights for the self-employed" promises EdM.
Is he setting up a union for them?
Or will they have new mandatory paternal/maternal laws to tax themselves to pay for more leave?0 -
Did he just pledge to get a million job in green tech, and to totally de-carbonise our power by 2030?
Wow. Big aims.0 -
Beat me to it and better written!CarlottaVance said:Mary Ann Seighart:
Equal rights for the self-employed. Against whom? Themselves?
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Gareth Morgan @MogsyMorg 3m
@MatthewdAncona I also told him I wanted a free owl.
Gareth Morgan @MogsyMorg 5m
So embarrassing, I had a two minute conversation with Ed Miliband and he's mentioned me three times.0 -
Even Mehdi Hassan isn't impressed by this speech.0
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@hugorifkind: I'VE LOST TRACK OF ED MILIBAND'S NATIONAL GOALS.
@anthonyjwells: @hugorifkind Owls. One of them was definitely owls.0 -
It is impossible to take carbon out of electricity by 2030 without using nuclear....Morris_Dancer said:Hmm. I wonder if I should tweet Ed Miliband and ask him to buy my books, to help out a self-employed man.
Edited extra bit: All carbon out of electricity by 2030, apparently.0 -
Aww, I thought the 'I met someone called Elizabeth...' was going to be an intro to a Queen joke.0
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OK - Ed M clearly DOES NOT want to be Prime Minister.
He's pulling a sicky.0 -
Equal rights for the self-employed??
WTF is he on?0 -
Now Ed is introducing people he has met on stage. Is Ed's milkman next? Will we meet Ed's car cleaner - or were they let go?0
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another 40 mins of this tripe still to go?0
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Krishnan Guru-Murthy @krishgm 58s
I have met Ed Miliband lots of times and he's never mentioned me in a speech. I'm really quite pissed off
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This really is astoundingly poor. He just broke his 'flow' to go all 'interactive' with an apprentice on the stage.
How on earth is this a prime minister in waiting?0 -
Open Europe @OpenEurope · 2 mins
Current UK target for electricity from renewables is 30% in 2020, Ed Miliband says Labour will increase this to 100% by 2030
To use a malcolmg term
Cuckoo....cuckoo...0 -
Will Labour give the English as many owls as the Scots get?0
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10-year plan to build a better Britain?
They had 13 last time, and how did that work out?
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BJ4BW again!
If you want to bring in a foreign worker then you must provide an apprenticeship...
How does that one work with EC workers?
presumably they do not count ... but EdM fails to mention that. Foreigners are now non-European?0 -
Ed Miliband = Hughie Green
Friends, friends, and I mean it most sincerely....0 -
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er thanks for that...DaemonBarber said:another 40 mins of this tripe still to go?
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This is painfully bad.0
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And Sky have given up...0
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Too long, too rehearsed, too much waffle, too many goals.. People will just be confused, disbelieve the pledges, and forget it.0
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Casino, you should know me well enough by now. I do not put up betting suggestions here that I have not already backed myself.Casino_Royale said:
Are you betting on that, Peter?Peter_the_Punter said:
It's like one of those horse races where the form suggests that none of them are good enough to win, but somebody has to.TCPoliticalBetting said:What professional company would hire Ed Milliband as their Company representative? He is at best a back room ops person that should not be put in front of customers. To think that he is heading to be the PM and representative of the UK, is one of those scarcely believable facts.
Or, as Sherlock Holmes might have said, 'When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth".
Ed Is Crap is PM, however improbable that may appear.0 -
Has she been on the Apprentice?oxfordsimon said:0 -
Like!CarlottaVance said:Krishnan Guru-Murthy @krishgm 58s
I have met Ed Miliband lots of times and he's never mentioned me in a speech. I'm really quite pissed off0 -
Now calling upon dead witnesses ;-)0
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Gaby Hinsliff @gabyhinsliff 7m
My phone battery is going to die before this speech does. It is not impossible I will die before this speech does.
David Jones @DavidJo52951945 1m
MIliband- 'our aim is that as many youngsters will go on apprenticeships as Uni'- that is a UKIP policy
Paul Waugh @paulwaugh 3m
Did I hear that right? All carbon out of electricity by 2030?0 -
Not really. Probability of Miliband being Prime Minister in 2030? Zero.JosiasJessop said:Did he just pledge to get a million job in green tech, and to totally de-carbonise our power by 2030?
Wow. Big aims.
No point in setting deadlines for other people to meet. It's only a big aim if it's a target for the next Parliament that he can be judged on by the next election - like Cameron's net migration pledge.0 -
Yes self-employed will have a right to go to an employment tribunal if they lose their job and can sue themselves for elf and safety breaches...Slackbladder said:Equal rights for the self-employed??
WTF is he on?
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I hope Colin can hear him!0
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I guess that means you can't stop being self-employed without giving yourself formal notice, a consultation with yourself, the option to move to another job with yourself, and 1 week’s pay for each full year you were 22 or older, but under 41. And woe betide you if you get it wrong, otherwise you might find yourself taking yourself to an industrial tribunal.CarlottaVance said:Mary Ann Seighart:
Equal rights for the self-employed. Against whom? Themselves?0 -
@hugorifkind: Must be really annoying for Ed when he meets somebody who says something great and they turn out to be called Torquil or Jocasta. Or Gordon.0
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He got my memo!Casino_Royale said:This really is astoundingly poor. He just broke his 'flow' to go all 'interactive' with an apprentice on the stage.
How on earth is this a prime minister in waiting?0 -
'TAX THE BANKERS' (Again)0
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Colin!!0
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I thought it might just be an opinion you were sharing, rather than a betting suggestion.Peter_the_Punter said:
Casino, you should know me well enough by now. I do not put up betting suggestions here that I have not already backed myself.Casino_Royale said:
Are you betting on that, Peter?Peter_the_Punter said:
It's like one of those horse races where the form suggests that none of them are good enough to win, but somebody has to.TCPoliticalBetting said:What professional company would hire Ed Milliband as their Company representative? He is at best a back room ops person that should not be put in front of customers. To think that he is heading to be the PM and representative of the UK, is one of those scarcely believable facts.
Or, as Sherlock Holmes might have said, 'When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth".
Ed Is Crap is PM, however improbable that may appear.
I disagree. I think Ed Miliband will fall short of his goal. And I'm also betting on it.0 -
This is a speech of a retard
Mark Wallace @wallaceme 7m
Having promised an energy price freeze, Ed now pledges a vast increase in the cost of generating energy...what could go wrong? #Lab14
Gawain Towler retweeted
Julia Hartley-Brewer @JuliaHB1 2m
@chrisdeerin please stop it, you're making me laugh too much and I can't leave my studio while we take the speech live.0 -
Here we go NHS, going to spend fortunes, interesting to see how it will be paid for. Oh Tax Avoidance, Mansion Tax, Tobacco, that is it, we all know the reality tax on jobs again.0
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I presume PB2 is running the same thread but where all the lefties are picking out the positive responses and tweets saying this is a barnstomer?
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NHS - funding from reducing tax avoidance (like his own inheritance tax scheme), mansion tax (already spent on two other things) and from more taxation on tobacco companies (who will just pass the cost on to smokers)
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Ah tax avoidance! That's how they are going to pay for it.
Pity the coalition has been a lot more robust going after it than the previous Labour government......0 -
Just started raining in Manchester after what had been a pleasant day.
I'm blaming Miliband's speech!0 -
'Andy Burnham' and 'Care for the elderly'. Two mutually incompatible phrases.0
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Hang on. A billion from tax avoidance loophole closing, and taxes on mansions and tobacco firms. Will that pay for 8,000 GPs and 20,000 nurses (and more, I think)?
Incidentally, everybody in Britain will die of the Black Death if you vote Conservative.0 -
What's in it for Hills, even PR wise? If they were to "advertise" in this way and then knock back the 50 smacker punters, they upset in theory 10,000 ordinary punters for each one megabetter they keep happy. Rather [edit} counterproductive.Peter_the_Punter said:Just listened to the interview with the punter who had 900,000 on No in the referendum, having missed the thread completely.
Don't know about anybody else, but he didn't pass the smell test as far as I was concerned. He took 1/4 about an outcome that was as big as 2/5 for a while; he used a Bookie, rather than Betfair, where there was ample liquidity available; he didn't sound or talk like a punter; and he got on for a mega-amount with a firm that regularly knocks back fifty pound punters.
We sure this wasn't just a Hills PR stunt?
There are two other explanations that come to mind but I don't want to be derided for suggesting them. However, you are in any case infinitely better equipped to judge.
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Conference is waking up... NHS pledges pushing all the right buttons.0
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Radio 5 live ask "is it over ?"
Sky on Obama.0 -
Mr. Royale, indeed, they do love taxing baddies, increasing NHS funding and more NHS jobs. Not sure the taxes will cover the employment promises.0
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"Not some pie in the sky idea"
Everything he has said so far has been pie in the sky.0 -
James Chapman (Mail) @jameschappers 10m
Miliband: Labour to devolve power to communities to insulate 5 million lofts over next ten years #lab14
Hang on - didn't Gordon Brown already use that one on at least three of his conference speeches?0 -
Give the vote to 16 and 17 year olds in general elections.. Interesting.0
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Votes for 16/17 year olds.... didn't work for Salmond0
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I suppose there is a possible parallel universe where that might be happening...Scrapheap_as_was said:I presume PB2 is running the same thread but where all the lefties are picking out the positive responses and tweets saying this is a barnstomer?
But that's more fantasy than science fiction..0 -
Well, any backable suggestion you put up on a betting site is by implication a betting tip. That's certainly the way I operate.Casino_Royale said:
I thought that was just an opinion you were sharing, rather than a betting suggestion.Peter_the_Punter said:
Casino, you should know me well enough by now. I do not put up betting suggestions here that I have not already backed myself.Casino_Royale said:
Are you betting on that, Peter?Peter_the_Punter said:
It's like one of those horse races where the form suggests that none of them are good enough to win, but somebody has to.TCPoliticalBetting said:What professional company would hire Ed Milliband as their Company representative? He is at best a back room ops person that should not be put in front of customers. To think that he is heading to be the PM and representative of the UK, is one of those scarcely believable facts.
Or, as Sherlock Holmes might have said, 'When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth".
Ed Is Crap is PM, however improbable that may appear.
I disagree. I think Ed Miliband will fall short of his goal. And I'm also betting on it.
I'd add the caveat here that I would not (and have not) bet too heavily on this GE yet. It's a bit of a strange one and this could change suddenly. The only heavily committed position I have at present is on a good UKIP performance.
But EICIPM seems the most the most likely scenario right now, quite possibly as head of a minority Government0 -
Extending the franchise to 16 & 17 year olds....0
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"Reform the House of Lords to create a Senate of the nations and regions" - I presume that's nations for Scotland, Wales and NI, and regions for England.0
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Madness. I guess they've figured their wheeze of importing immigrants is coming to an end so they have to gerrymander the electorate another way.CarlottaVance said:Extending the franchise to 16 & 17 year olds....
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But we don't want devolved local government Ed.
We want EV4EL.0 -
Either they are going to have to reinsulate some houses they have already insulated, or they're going to have to offer free insulation to private landlords and others who normally don't qualify through this sort of scheme.Richard_Nabavi said:James Chapman (Mail) @jameschappers 10m
Miliband: Labour to devolve power to communities to insulate 5 million lofts over next ten years #lab14
Hang on - didn't Gordon Brown already use that one on at least three of his conference speeches?0 -
I knew that our totally fair and representative posters on PB would call it a disaster!! They were far too kind. So far its an epic fail.
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Not a fan of schoolchildren voting. He wants the Lords to become a 'Senate of the Nations'. And English devolution.
By which he means no English Parliament or English votes for English laws, but sounds like rubbish local devolution. He still wants a constitutional convention.0 -
100% renewables target in just 15 years + cap on energy prices = massive government subsidies. How does that square with cutting the national debt?0
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I said about a week ago that UKIP had a good chance in Heywood & Middleton, particularly since Clacton already appears to be in the bag for them, which means they can send plenty of activists up to Greater Manchester rather than Essex.0
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Not everyone operates like you Peter - but noted for future reference.Peter_the_Punter said:
Well, any backable suggestion you put up on a betting site is by implication a betting tip. That's certainly the way I operate.Casino_Royale said:
I thought that was just an opinion you were sharing, rather than a betting suggestion.Peter_the_Punter said:
Casino, you should know me well enough by now. I do not put up betting suggestions here that I have not already backed myself.Casino_Royale said:
Are you betting on that, Peter?Peter_the_Punter said:
It's like one of those horse races where the form suggests that none of them are good enough to win, but somebody has to.TCPoliticalBetting said:What professional company would hire Ed Milliband as their Company representative? He is at best a back room ops person that should not be put in front of customers. To think that he is heading to be the PM and representative of the UK, is one of those scarcely believable facts.
Or, as Sherlock Holmes might have said, 'When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth".
Ed Is Crap is PM, however improbable that may appear.
I disagree. I think Ed Miliband will fall short of his goal. And I'm also betting on it.
I'd add the caveat here that I would not (and have not) bet too heavily on this GE yet. It's a bit of a strange one and this could change suddenly. The only heavily committed position I have at present is on a good UKIP performance.
But EICIPM seems the most the most likely scenario right now, quite possibly as head of a minority Government
I've got an article coming up on this very subject. Watch this space!0 -
I look forward to the Left leaning contributors here complaining about his 'partisan meddling'.CarlottaVance said:Extending the franchise to 16 & 17 year olds....
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Senate of the Nations? Does that mean he wants the same number of seats for England as for Wales and Scotland?Morris_Dancer said:Not a fan of schoolchildren voting. He wants the Lords to become a 'Senate of the Nations'. And English devolution.
By which he means no English Parliament or English votes for English laws, but sounds like rubbish local devolution. He still wants a constitutional convention.0 -
Imagine how much cheaper it would have been to get an extra 8000 GPs if Labour hadn't given a ridiculously generous settlement as well as letting them off out of hours duties (putting more pressure on A&E and resulted in the need for more out of hours care centres with more GPs on more money, many of which are run by private providers).Morris_Dancer said:Hang on. A billion from tax avoidance loophole closing, and taxes on mansions and tobacco firms. Will that pay for 8,000 GPs and 20,000 nurses (and more, I think)?
Incidentally, everybody in Britain will die of the Black Death if you vote Conservative.0 -
Miliband just said fighting in the Spanish Civil War was an example of Englishness.
The Scots who fought will be really chuffed about that0 -
The **** Miliband thinks fairness for England is 'dividing us'.
Says it's political tactics about England to have English votes for English laws.0 -
I can't get anything on the internet or phone, but I'm not banned from all their shops!Peter_the_Punter said:
So how did he get on, Isam?isam said:
Probably, although you would be amazed at how many big punters take worse odds than betfairPeter_the_Punter said:Just listened to the interview with the punter who had 900,000 on No in the referendum, having missed the thread completely.
Don't know about anybody else, but he didn't pass the smell test as far as I was concerned. He took 1/4 about an outcome that was as big as 2/5 for a while; he used a Bookie, rather than Betfair, where there was ample liquidity available; he didn't sound or talk like a punter; and he got on for a mega-amount with a firm that regularly knocks back fifty pound punters.
We sure this wasn't just a Hills PR stunt?
Why would anyone, ever take bookie odds when betfair was better?? Mystifying
I can't get 900p on with Hills. Can you?
I guess if I wrote my name on the bankers draught for 900 large they would clock I was banned and not accept... But you'd just get a mate to put it on wouldn't you?
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It's a bit like a children's nursery rhyme. Tax all the bad things and bad people to pay for all the good things for the good people.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Royale, indeed, they do love taxing baddies, increasing NHS funding and more NHS jobs. Not sure the taxes will cover the employment promises.
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