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RobD said:

1, 2, and 3 are basically the same thing. Naughty TSE.

2 and 3 kinda are

Apologies for the brevity of night hawks tonight.

I'm absolutely knackered at the moment, and am off to bed.

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

1, 2, and 3 are basically the same thing. Naughty TSE.

2 and 3 kinda are

Apologies for the brevity of night hawks tonight.

I'm absolutely knackered at the moment, and am off to bed.

Not a problem. Must be a mare to get this all sorted every day.

Night, TSE!

Is easy, pick and compile the links throughout the day, then around 8pm, just have a browse again and finalise it.

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

RobD said:

1, 2, and 3 are basically the same thing. Naughty TSE.

2 and 3 kinda are

Apologies for the brevity of night hawks tonight.

I'm absolutely knackered at the moment, and am off to bed.

Not a problem. Must be a mare to get this all sorted every day.

Night, TSE!

Is easy, pick and compile the links throughout the day, then around 8pm, just have a browse again and finalise it.

But surely you have other things to do than just search the internet for funny stories for our entertainment? Not that I mind, of course ;-)

A by-election for the position of Police and Crime Commissioner for the South Yorkshire Police Area would be very interesting in the current climate. If the incumbent were to resign, under the provisions of section 51 of the Police Reform and Social Responsibility Act 2011, a by-election must take place no later than 35 days after two electors registered within the police area have given notice to the appropriate officer.

10 is excellent news, and shows why tomorrow does not belong to UKIP.

If UKIP put Miliband in power in 2015, they will have missed the tide of history. I will be happy.

HYUFD said:

Speedy Of course the US does elect judges at the state level, the economist recently had a good article about it
http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21613276-theyre-not-politicians-so-they-shouldnt-act-them-trouble-electing-judges

Thanks for supporting my case, look what they write about it:
" Alexis de Tocqueville, whose travels around the country coincided with the spread of judicial elections, predicted that “these innovations will, sooner or later, have disastrous results.” It is a view shared by many of the judges running for office around the country."

"Electing judges is a bad idea because judges are not like politicians. It is fine for a politician to make deals with voters; to say, “Vote for me and I’ll raise the minimum wage” or “Vote for me and I’ll cut taxes.” But it is an abuse of power for a judge to promise—or even hint—that he will decide future cases on any basis other than the facts and the law. Standing for election gives judges an incentive to smile on people voters like and get tough on those they hate. That is hardly a recipe for impartiality."
"Vote for me and I’ll jail the people you hate"

"When first introduced, elections were seen as a way to insulate judicial nominations from the perception of corruption. Now they are having the opposite effect."

I've got a better slogan "Vote for me I'll set you free"

Cameron is half Scottish through his Scottish father, and a quarter Welsh and English through his half Welsh half English mother. So Cameron is more Scottish than English and is simply coming home!!

Also interesting that Cameron has an approval rating of 30% in Scotland, 10% more than the Scottish Tories' poll rating, and a dissatisfaction rating only 1% more than Salmond!

Stuart_Dickson said:

Another busy day on Betfair: over £2.2 million now matched on the IndyRef market, but despite constant trading prices have not moved.

Do you have a sense of how much was bet in the last, say, day or week?

Speedy said:

foxinsoxuk said:

10 is excellent news, and shows why tomorrow does not belong to UKIP.

If UKIP put Miliband in power in 2015, they will have missed the tide of history. I will be happy.

Interacial marriages are hardly an accurate measure of racial tensions, look at europe or america.

Racially mixed marriages are much less common in the states.

And mixed marriages are a good proxy for other racial views. Young people are much more happy with racial and sexual equality than their elders. The party of Bloom is doomed. Tick, tock,tick tock...

1. You What Gov?

2. Not a fan Re. this.

3. Will PM Boris finish up facing off against LOTO Farage one day?

4. Helpfully for the PM Parliament returns for a couple of weeks in early September.

5. I'd like someone to go through Mr and Mrs Farage's gravy-train expense's with a fine tooth comb...

6. UKIP is living in a fantasy world and anyway they don't want a referendum now or in the future as it put's them out of business and could take them off the gravy-train.

7. Isn't it 18th September yet?

8. Ditto.

9. Ditto.

10. The UK has always been one of the most peaceful and tolerant nations on Earth. And the trends look good.

11. Cameron is entitled to go wherever the hell he likes in his own country.

12. If Scotland slings their hook next month we should throw Wales a bone and change the British flag to Red, White and Green. IMO.

13. Where does The Sunil get all this information from?

14. War is hell.

foxinsoxuk said:

10 is excellent news, and shows why tomorrow does not belong to UKIP.

If UKIP put Miliband in power in 2015, they will have missed the tide of history. I will be happy.

UKIP don't oppose interracial marriage, so I'm not sure what your point is (other than your hope for Milliband to be PM).

However, the Rotherham scandal indicates that in much of the country, the future well belong to UKIP.

foxinsoxuk said:

10 is excellent news, and shows why tomorrow does not belong to UKIP.

If UKIP put Miliband in power in 2015, they will have missed the tide of history. I will be happy.

I agree 10 is excellent news. This post on the other hand is a lazy and reprehensible smear that trivialises genuine racism.

''It's vital we don't let racists and those with an aggressive anti-immigration agenda use Rotherham to push their vile political agenda.''

Very poor and juvenile attempt to wind people up on the site.

Speedy There is a difference electing judges, who are supposed to be impartial and consider the facts, and prosecutors and sheriffs who can quite clearly be judged on what they are supposed to do, arrest and successfully prosecute criminals!

There's no racists or people with aggressive anti-immigration agenda posting on PB are there?

No I don't believe there are.

That's why its a very poor and juvenile attempt....

welshowl said:

12. None are me honest (!)

There was a nightclub thing about 20 years ago about drinking beer through a sock in Cardiff. Which was sophisticated, I felt, for the times.

Pfsh, Cardiff has never had anyone growing cannabis in the council flower pots in the city centre.

Newport on the other hand...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-23566284

Life_ina_market_town said:

A by-election for the position of Police and Crime Commissioner for the South Yorkshire Police Area would be very interesting in the current climate. If the incumbent were to resign, under the provisions of section 51 of the Police Reform and Social Responsibility Act 2011, a by-election must take place no later than 35 days after two electors registered within the police area have given notice to the appropriate officer.

It would be good if a similar provision was enacted for MPs.

Hugh said:

It's vital we don't let racists and those with an aggressive anti-immigration agenda use Rotherham to push their vile political agenda.

Its vital that we step up education and integration of immigrants so that a certain group of them don't view local girls as sub-human scum to be bought and sold like cattle.

HYUFD said:

Speedy On what basis would the LDs get that total? I would assume poll rating, same as the Tories?

If as I reason Cameron's popularity is the sum of the Tories and LDs.

HYUFD said:

Speedy There is a difference electing judges, who are supposed to be impartial and consider the facts, and prosecutors and sheriffs who can quite clearly be judged on what they are supposed to do, arrest and successfully prosecute criminals!

Your own posted article from the Economist fully supports my argument.

Hugh said:

It's vital we don't let racists and those with an aggressive anti-immigration agenda use Rotherham to push their vile political agenda.

Was it right for Rotherham council to prevent a UKIP-supporting couple from adopting?

Carola said:

labour sources say Shaun Wright will be suspended from the party unless he resigns by the morning @iainjwatson (BBC)

So he is out of the Labour party.
But no one can remove him from office, so he can still be in a position to cause trouble for the police.

JohnLilburne said:

welshowl said:

12. None are me honest (!)

There was a nightclub thing about 20 years ago about drinking beer through a sock in Cardiff. Which was sophisticated, I felt, for the times.

About 20 years ago, Welsh beer would have been improved by the consumption method.

Yes you're not wrong. Albright bitter is thankfully a thing of the past I believe. There used to be a real thing here for drinking vast lakes of very weak beer. That seems to have passed too. The choice has improved since the 80's.

Cardiff is something of a stag destination now too which I find odd, but then I live here.

So he is out of the Labour party.

Think it'll end there for labour, Mr Speedy? LOL

Speedy The voters can, and now he has lost the Labour nomination, almost certainly will!

Speedy No it doesn't, I never have supported electing judges, whose success you cannot measure, but you can measure the success of prosecutors, by their successful prosecution rate, and Sheriffs, by the successful arrest of convicted criminals

foxinsoxuk said:

Speedy said:

foxinsoxuk said:

10 is excellent news, and shows why tomorrow does not belong to UKIP.

If UKIP put Miliband in power in 2015, they will have missed the tide of history. I will be happy.

Interacial marriages are hardly an accurate measure of racial tensions, look at europe or america.

Racially mixed marriages are much less common in the states.

And mixed marriages are a good proxy for other racial views. Young people are much more happy with racial and sexual equality than their elders. The party of Bloom is doomed. Tick, tock,tick tock...

It's called Denial. You think people shouldn't support UKIP, therefore they don't support UKIP. In 1999, UKIP got 7% in the Euro elections. This year, they got 28%. Back, then they had a couple of local councillors. Now they have 368. If your theory were correct, their voters would have died out by now.

Cardiff is something of a stag destination now too which I find odd, but then I live here.

A couple of gay male friends have casually enquired as to Cardiff's totty potential, possibly after the Gareth Thomas' coming out.

I couldn't possibly comment!!!

Just reading the memo posted on Guido's blog. Looks like this clerk business isn't going anywhere soon. Poor Bercow.

It's called Denial.

Don't be too hard on the fellah. I seem to remember he has a stake on zero UKIP seats.

It must be a difficult time....

Have to say this looks quite serious for Speaker B now;

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/08/exclusive-74-mps-support-campaign-against-bercows-clerk-appointment/

Anybody think we could have a new Speaker by Bonfire Night?

RobD said:

GIN1138 said:

Have to say this looks quite serious for Speaker B now;

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/08/exclusive-74-mps-support-campaign-against-bercows-clerk-appointment/

Anybody think we could have a new Speaker by Bonfire Night?

The thought of him being Speaker for the next ~15 years fills me with dread.

I thought when he stood for Speakership he claimed he'd stand down mind-way through 2015/2020 Parliament?

HYUFD said:

Speedy No it doesn't, I never have supported electing judges, whose success you cannot measure, but you can measure the success of prosecutors, by their successful prosecution rate, and Sheriffs, by the successful arrest of convicted criminals

A white Sheriff can get white votes for arresting blacks but not whites.
cough..Ferguson..cough

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/ufqeuz/race-off
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/qtvov3/race-off---live-from-somewhere

When you have an elected post the guy who gets elected will tend to cater to enough people he needs to get elected and shove the rest down the trash can, but when that post is a civil service function like Law and Order you need to take care of the whole of society not just a large enough share of voters.

drspyn Perhaps the Panda is a closet Scottish Tory and ensure that it is not too difficult for them to win more MPs next year than Pandas in Edinburgh zoo

Speedy As I said the economist article was about judges, an unelected police authority chair can be difficult to dismiss, with rights to compensation, employment tribunals etc, an elected PCC can be got rid of by the morning after election night with no right of appeal!

The turnout problem was because the LDs made the idiotic decision to insist the elections be held in November rather than the same time as the local elections

One thing that disappoints me in the coverage about Rotherham is the lack of focus on class. Not of the perpetrators but of the victims. I simply do not believe that if the the gangs had decided to migrate from Rotherham to the other side of Sheffield - i.e Sheffield Hallam and started targeting and abusing nice middle class girls - that there would have been this inaction from the police. In fact I suspect they would have acted immediately and sod the consequences for social cohesion. It may be that many middle class girls would be less likely to fall prey to these gangs who seem to specialise in those at risk, but it's fairly obvious that the police and local government non-entities who failed to do anything were not too worried about any threat to their own daughters whom I'm sure they felt would never be targeted.

Sean_F said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Speedy said:

foxinsoxuk said:

10 is excellent news, and shows why tomorrow does not belong to UKIP.

If UKIP put Miliband in power in 2015, they will have missed the tide of history. I will be happy.

Interacial marriages are hardly an accurate measure of racial tensions, look at europe or america.

Racially mixed marriages are much less common in the states.

And mixed marriages are a good proxy for other racial views. Young people are much more happy with racial and sexual equality than their elders. The party of Bloom is doomed. Tick, tock,tick tock...

It's called Denial. You think people shouldn't support UKIP, therefore they don't support UKIP. In 1999, UKIP got 7% in the Euro elections. This year, they got 28%. Back, then they had a couple of local councillors. Now they have 368. If your theory were correct, their voters would have died out by now.

I do recognise that UKIP do well in recent elections, but their long term prognosis is grim.

They will struggle to get a single seat next year, then a Miliband government will finish them off.

FrankBooth said:

One thing that disappoints me in the coverage about Rotherham is the lack of focus on class. Not of the perpetrators but of the victims. I simply do not believe that if the the gangs had decided to migrate from Rotherham to the other side of Sheffield - i.e Sheffield Hallam and started targeting and abusing nice middle class girls - that there would have been this inaction from the police. In fact I suspect they would have acted immediately and sod the consequences for social cohesion. It may be that many middle class girls would be less likely to fall prey to these gangs who seem to specialise in those at risk, but it's fairly obvious that the police and local government non-entities who failed to do anything were not too worried about any threat to their own daughters whom I'm sure they felt would never be targeted.

Quite. The girls were probably seen as skanks and slags. But having sex with a 12 year old girl should always be prosecuted. it's like a get out of jail free card for the police - you don't have to prove coercion, or even intent, just that it happened. Can't understand why "consent" was treated as a reason not to prosecute.

Maybe we need to get rid of the crime of under-age sex and treat it as rape, the victim not having the capacity to consent.

Tonight's YouGov/Sun poll - Labour a one point lead.. Con 34%, Lab 35%, Lib Dems 7%, UKIP 14%

YouGov/Sun poll - Labour a one point lead.. Con 34%, Lab 35%, Lib Dems 7%, UKIP 14%

May have been level under last weeks methodology.

When do we expect the first post-Rotherham poll? (I know Yougov is daily but it depends when they did the research).

South Yorkshire's PCC won't be a Labour representative by tomorrow morning. The party says they'll expel him if he doesn't stand down by then.

Hugh said:

Socrates said:

foxinsoxuk said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

foxinsoxuk said:

10 is excellent news, and shows why tomorrow does not belong to UKIP.

If UKIP put Miliband in power in 2015, they will have missed the tide of history. I will be happy.

I agree 10 is excellent news. This post on the other hand is a lazy and reprehensible smear that trivialises genuine racism.

I am not saying that kippers are racist (which is something that crosses all political parties) but that younger people are much more comfortable with diversity than older generations.

UKIPs xenophobia is not racist, it is mostly against white european immigration, but it is against diversity and how diversity changes society.

They don't want to lose British culture and identity, in the way it has been decimated in some parts of London. How awful of them.

What do you mean by "British culture and identity", Socrates?

Leather on willow? Tea? Real ale? Wars? Chips? White faces?

Do you have a problem with those things?

FrankBooth said:

One thing that disappoints me in the coverage about Rotherham is the lack of focus on class. Not of the perpetrators but of the victims. I simply do not believe that if the the gangs had decided to migrate from Rotherham to the other side of Sheffield - i.e Sheffield Hallam and started targeting and abusing nice middle class girls - that there would have been this inaction from the police. In fact I suspect they would have acted immediately and sod the consequences for social cohesion. It may be that many middle class girls would be less likely to fall prey to these gangs who seem to specialise in those at risk, but it's fairly obvious that the police and local government non-entities who failed to do anything were not too worried about any threat to their own daughters whom I'm sure they felt would never be targeted.

I agree. If you're middle class, you know which buttons to push, to get redress for wrongs done to you and your family.

In the case of Rotherham, you have a toxic combination of old fashioned snobbery towards "slutty" lower class girls, and modern political correctness which views "good community relations" as paramount.