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After the big news about Boris and GE2015 we now have further details about Nigel Farage’s intentions. It looks as though he is going for South Thanet – a seat that had been strongly tipped and where he has stood before. A selection meeting has been fixed for August 26th though it does look like a formality for the party leader.
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I only looked up the Labour candidate today after reading comments about him being a kid etc. in the past. Yeah, he looks a bit baby-faced but he doesnt come across as the dud candidate that some people here were suggesting.0
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do they have nice pubs there?0
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The BBC version of reality isn't true and as the actual problems get worse every year the minority who know it isn't true also increases every year hence why Ukip was always guaranteed to keep edging forward despite whatever ICM or anyone else said.GIN1138 said:Well yeah, that's why I think it's unlikely UKIP will gain a single seat in 2015.
If they can't do it in by elections, I just don't see it in a general election.
That doesn't necessarily mean Ukip will end up winning lots of seats though as the political class will probably use lawfare to stop it.
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Looking at the Newark by-election, and last night's local elections, it seems Labour and Lib Dems both get squeezed in Con vs UKIP battles. But, it's not clear which party benefits.0
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I agree , to me he seems a decent keen young man . I remember the pb tories on here back in the 1960's describing David Steel as being a kid who would never win Roxburgh Selkirk and Peebles .Neil said:I only looked up the Labour candidate today after reading comments about him being a kid etc. in the past. Yeah, he looks a bit baby-faced but he doesnt come across as the dud candidate that some people here were suggesting.
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apologies for my ill-advised comments on the previous thread0
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The Tories could do worse than pick an intelligent quasi - celeb.
Someone like Peter Sissons perhaps?0 -
if anything, i am now more drunk than i was then.however, I do realise I was being pointlessly offensive, and would like to apologise to those who read my posts.0
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I didn't realise PB.com had been running for 50 years or more. Presumably OGH was in short trousers in those days?MarkSenior said:
I agree , to me he seems a decent keen young man . I remember the pb tories on here back in the 1960's describing David Steel as being a kid who would never win Roxburgh Selkirk and Peebles .Neil said:I only looked up the Labour candidate today after reading comments about him being a kid etc. in the past. Yeah, he looks a bit baby-faced but he doesnt come across as the dud candidate that some people here were suggesting.
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Wasn't Andrew Strauss in the frame for a seat at one stage?peter_from_putney said:The Tories could do worse than pick an intelligent quasi - celeb.
Someone like Peter Sissons perhaps?
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@dugarbandier
Being pointlessly offensive is allowed on Fridays (no one really bothers much on other days either)0 -
Iirc he blotted his copybook recently with some unfortunate language.GeoffM said:
Wasn't Andrew Strauss in the frame for a seat at one stage?peter_from_putney said:The Tories could do worse than pick an intelligent quasi - celeb.
Someone like Peter Sissons perhaps?
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Farage will be standing against the former UKIP leader (in 1997), Craig Macinlay, who is the Conservative candidate.
Farage got 5% when he stood in the constituency previously in 2005.
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Actual real manly say-it-as-it-is language?peter_from_putney said:
Iirc he blotted his copybook recently with some unfortunate language.GeoffM said:
Wasn't Andrew Strauss in the frame for a seat at one stage?peter_from_putney said:The Tories could do worse than pick an intelligent quasi - celeb.
Someone like Peter Sissons perhaps?
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Or some limp-wristed shandy drinking stuff that a politically correct grief-whore from the professional Taking Offence Brigade thought could be worth money or a column in the Guardian?0 -
This is getting silly - MPs surely do not take us lot that seriously-
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In fact, Jacob Rees-Mogg for next leader. By far our most intelligent MP.0 -
5% was twice the UKip average for the 2005 GE - support has grown somewhat since then..David_Evershed said:[snip]
Farage got 5% when he stood in the constituency previously in 2005.
Sounds like a tough gig.0 -
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With the new 2014 - 2015 Football League season starting tonight, I've backed the promotion favourites Cardiff City to win or draw at Blackburn at 4/5 with Betfair.
DYOR.0 -
What no-one is factoring into their GE calculations is the massive increase in the LD vote which will follow Cleggs departure after Christmas.0
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It will be funny if Farage messes this one up!0
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If I were Kipper HQ I would be getting the troops to petition Baron Hall of Birkenhead to put that utter, utter t0sser Marcus Brigstocke on the "comedy" slot on Radio 4 at 6.30pm every day from now until the election date making fun of UKIP and Farage.
= Landslide for Farage
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I can confidently predict South Thanet voters will be bombarded with dodgy bar charts.0
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Totally O/t but cricketerJimmy Neesham (New Zealand Test player.... all-rounder) had holes drilled into his bat by United States customs officials during an apparent drugs search. Wonder what would happen if Kiwi or Aussie customs were to confiscate wooden baseball bats from a touring Septic baseball team?0
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Essential data for Thanet South.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/07/could-farage-win-if-he-stands-in-thanet-south/0 -
I've backed Burnley at 12 on Betfair's Premiership Handicap market where they start +52. Next one down is at 44. With that size handicap they could get relegated and still "win".peter_from_putney said:O/T
With the new 2014 - 2015 Football League season starting tonight, I've backed the promotion favourites Cardiff City to win or draw at Blackburn at 4/5 with Betfair.
DYOR.
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Wasn't he given the Euro commissioner job?OldKingCole said:What no-one is factoring into their GE calculations is the massive increase in the LD vote which will follow Cleggs departure after Christmas.
Every idiot on pb was predicting that for years.0 -
As one of those idiots, I claim my prize! I'm still expecting/hoping he'll move on!No_Offence_Alan said:
Wasn't he given the Euro commissioner job?OldKingCole said:What no-one is factoring into their GE calculations is the massive increase in the LD vote which will follow Cleggs departure after Christmas.
Every idiot on pb was predicting that for years.0 -
That's quite a handy bet Mike - the winning handicap score is likely to be around 86-90, so your lot need to secure around 36 "real" points to be in with a shout.MikeSmithson said:
I've backed Burnley at 12 on Betfair's Premiership Handicap market where they start +52. Next one down is at 44. With that size handicap they could get relegated and still "win".peter_from_putney said:O/T
With the new 2014 - 2015 Football League season starting tonight, I've backed the promotion favourites Cardiff City to win or draw at Blackburn at 4/5 with Betfair.
DYOR.0 -
General comment:
To the best of my knowledge being drunk in (charge of) a thread is not yet illegal. But I'm sure the bureaucrats are working on it. Anyway, half of us here would probably doing porridge if that were the case.0 -
Has Sean's ISIS thread been pulled by the Telegraph? I get a page not found notice, and he seems tobe invisible on their blog page.0
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Belay that, I found it via google,TwistedFireStopper said:Has Sean's ISIS thread been pulled by the Telegraph? I get a page not found notice, and he seems tobe invisible on their blog page.
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Good evening, everyone.
Mr. Llama, cats sound quite vindictive.0 -
Good spot. I think worth a couple of quid. I thought Leicester on +44 was value too. We have a tough start with Everton (H), Chelsea (A) Arsenal (H) and Man U (H) all before mid September. So those odds may get better.MikeSmithson said:
I've backed Burnley at 12 on Betfair's Premiership Handicap market where they start +52. Next one down is at 44. With that size handicap they could get relegated and still "win".peter_from_putney said:O/T
With the new 2014 - 2015 Football League season starting tonight, I've backed the promotion favourites Cardiff City to win or draw at Blackburn at 4/5 with Betfair.
DYOR.
Still, this is what we got promoted for, and it is the best Leicester side and best manager since the MON years.0 -
I can't see why there would be an increase for the Lib Dems even if Clegg did lose. Don't the polls show he's more popular than the party?OldKingCole said:What no-one is factoring into their GE calculations is the massive increase in the LD vote which will follow Cleggs departure after Christmas.
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I like Marcus Brigstocke.and Dara O Briaine. Johnny and the baptists also very funny.
Never heard of the latter till mouthy Kippers tried to get them banned mind.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/13/ukip-comedy-tour-jonny-baptists_n_4957257.html0 -
Any further polling tonight?0
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Mr. Owls, I stopped watching O'Briain's science programme after a piece by Brigstocke about nothingness included two crowbarred in and unamusing 'jokes' about Clegg and Osborne in the first 5 minutes. O'Briain I rather like.
I think people (not necessarily just on the left) underestimate how their comedy or attempts thereat on things like Have I Got News For You reinforces and encourages more people to move to UKIP.
It's not a tiny little fringe anymore.0 -
I am not sure vindictive is quite the word, totally self-centred, bereft of a conscience but very aware of their own dignity. They can be susceptible to band language (see Jerome), which The Bute actually isn't, and can seek revenge if they feel their dignity has been slighted, which The Brute definitely does. They also sulk.Morris_Dancer said:Good evening, everyone.
Mr. Llama, cats sound quite vindictive.0 -
On Topic: I'm not sure Farage expects to win this seat. Looks more like a pulpit to preach about UKIP generally.
Would he even want to win? And have to stop grandstanding in the Euro parliament (which he is very good at).
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Strange what happened to Martin O''Neil - he seemed to lose his way.foxinsoxuk said:
Good spot. I think worth a couple of quid. I thought Leicester on +44 was value too. We have a tough start with Everton (H), Chelsea (A) Arsenal (H) and Man U (H) all before mid September. So those odds may get better.MikeSmithson said:
I've backed Burnley at 12 on Betfair's Premiership Handicap market where they start +52. Next one down is at 44. With that size handicap they could get relegated and still "win".peter_from_putney said:O/T
With the new 2014 - 2015 Football League season starting tonight, I've backed the promotion favourites Cardiff City to win or draw at Blackburn at 4/5 with Betfair.
DYOR.
Still, this is what we got promoted for, and it is the best Leicester side and best manager since the MON years.
As regards the handicap markets, most bookies tend to take these down as soon as the season starts, so now's probably the time to put your money down!0 -
and it's all your fault...SeanT said:Check the hashtag #AMessageFromISISToUS
Extraordinary. Isis militants ranting every five seconds about how they're going to slaughter Americans, along with predictably gory photos.
I can't help feeling we're headed for a final and terrible showdown, between the more radical elements of Islam and the West (along with China and India). It is maybe unavoidable, it will be awful. But we might just have to brace ourselves for total extirpation of this vile creed.
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Mr Dancer. Strange isn't it. All the funniest comedians seem to be Lefties. I recently got a comedian removed from the Warner leisure venues entertainment future schedule after i complained his material was racist.
Well thats what they told me. Have to say some of the older clientele seemed to be splitting their sides at the "paki uk immigration man joke"0 -
Mr. Owls, of course, if you want some comedy by a chap who has rarely been accused of leftyness, do buy Sir Edric's Temple.
It's not necessarily politically correct.0 -
Incidentally, if I get the time I'm hoping to get a mid-season review done over the weekend. Probably mostly racing with only a little about betting (instead of two reviews, one betting, one racing).0
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Mr Dancer I will give it a try. I can quite enjoy some large amounts of political incorrectness but do not like racist stuff,
Monty Python disabled Olympics definitely not PC but still pretty funny.0 -
Ken Dodd, Jim Davidson, Jimmy Tarbuck, Bob Monkhouse are/were Tories and I expect a good few others such as Bruce Forsyth, the two Ronnies etc, etc are/were too. There must be a good many more - it's simply politically incorrect and therefore a potentially bad career move for comics to admit that they support the Blues.bigjohnowls said:Mr Dancer. Strange isn't it. All the funniest comedians seem to be Lefties. I recently got a comedian removed from the Warner leisure venues entertainment future schedule after i complained his material was racist.
Well thats what they told me. Have to say some of the older clientele seemed to be splitting their sides at the "paki uk immigration man joke"0 -
Mr Dancer have now invested £1.79 on Kindle version hopefully i will enjoy it. Has received good reviews.0
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Mr. T, quite enjoyed the Murray piece where he calls for country names from the audience and has an answer for each one regarding how we (Britain) beat them in a war.
Mr. Owls, thanks, hope you enjoy it.0 -
I was reading an article by the former Coroner of LA, publicising her memoirs.HurstLlama said:
I am not sure vindictive is quite the word, totally self-centred, bereft of a conscience but very aware of their own dignity. They can be susceptible to band language (see Jerome), which The Bute actually isn't, and can seek revenge if they feel their dignity has been slighted, which The Brute definitely does. They also sulk.Morris_Dancer said:Good evening, everyone.
Mr. Llama, cats sound quite vindictive.
She mentioned, in passing, that if you die alone in a locked flat, a dog will lie by your side, starving, and pinning you for days. A cat won't even make it past *ahem* dinner time.
She said it was the worst thing she'd ever seen in her career.0 -
Well i always assumed Ricky Gervais was quite a Leftie. He certainly seems to dislike Christianity and he has been high profile as anti fox hunting and seems to do the amnesty international gigs.
Maybe I am wrong. Cant see him coming out for any party though TBH0 -
Speaking as a cat lover observer I suspect that if any moggie's owner suddenly shrank to the size of a mouse they wouldn't last very long, depending on whether the cat was hungry or just playful. But they're very good lap warmers.Charles said:
I was reading an article by the former Coroner of LA, publicising her memoirs.HurstLlama said:
I am not sure vindictive is quite the word, totally self-centred, bereft of a conscience but very aware of their own dignity. They can be susceptible to band language (see Jerome), which The Bute actually isn't, and can seek revenge if they feel their dignity has been slighted, which The Brute definitely does. They also sulk.Morris_Dancer said:Good evening, everyone.
Mr. Llama, cats sound quite vindictive.
She mentioned, in passing, that if you die alone in a locked flat, a dog will lie by your side, starving, and pinning you for days. A cat won't even make it past *ahem* dinner time.
She said it was the worst thing she'd ever seen in her career.0 -
Mr Dancer tis you!!!! How is Kingdom Asunder coming along?0
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Mr. Owls, excuse me?
First draft's done, but it'll need a lot of mangling, especially at the start (weirdly, a lot of change can be easier than less, because I'll probably just axe some bits and write whole new sections rather than having to amend what's currently there, which is harder and takes longer).
No ETA. Outside chance of this year but much likelier 2015. Before that, Sir Edric's Treasure [this year, hopefully], at least one short story and perhaps some others will emerge.0 -
Really well i am really surprised,SeanT said:
You are completely wrong. I was at UCL with him.bigjohnowls said:Well i always assumed Ricky Gervais was quite a Leftie. He certainly seems to dislike Christianity and he has been high profile as anti fox hunting and seems to do the amnesty international gigs.
Maybe I am wrong. Cant see him coming out for any party though TBH
He is still really funny though.0 -
According to New Statesman article Gervais voted labour in 2010. He also actually believes that the left wing orthodoxy that is the BBC is a Good Thing.SeanT said:
The two most original, successful and amusing British comedians of the last twenty years, Ricky Gervais and Sacha Baron Cohen, are both right wing - or at the very least they have become famous by viciously satirising leftwing orthodoxies, they get away with it because they disguise it as "irony".bigjohnowls said:Mr Dancer. Strange isn't it. All the funniest comedians seem to be Lefties. I recently got a comedian removed from the Warner leisure venues entertainment future schedule after i complained his material was racist.
Well thats what they told me. Have to say some of the older clientele seemed to be splitting their sides at the "paki uk immigration man joke"
My quite well-informed guess is that both ARE right wing.
http://www.newstatesman.com/comedy/2010/12/ricky-gervais-ince-office0 -
Good luck. I will let you know how i get on with the book. Probably be after my upcoming holiday. Are you at the Manchester PB event should have read it by then.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Owls, excuse me?
First draft's done, but it'll need a lot of mangling, especially at the start (weirdly, a lot of change can be easier than less, because I'll probably just axe some bits and write whole new sections rather than having to amend what's currently there, which is harder and takes longer).
No ETA. Outside chance of this year but much likelier 2015. Before that, Sir Edric's Treasure [this year, hopefully], at least one short story and perhaps some others will emerge.0 -
Morris_Dancer said:
Mr. Owls, of course, if you want some comedy by a chap who has rarely been accused of leftyness, do buy Sir Edric's Temple.
It's not necessarily politically correct.
I have justasked Amazon to send it to my phone :-) I have been reading the Merrily Watkins series for a light read, but I am finding the last couple have been a bit slow (I'm up to The Remains of an Altar)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Owls, of course, if you want some comedy by a chap who has rarely been accused of leftyness, do buy Sir Edric's Temple.
It's not necessarily politically correct.
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I believe you can be a Tory and still appreciate the BBC.Flightpath said:
According to New Statesman article Gervais voted labour in 2010. He also actually believes that the left wing orthodoxy that is the BBC is a Good Thing.SeanT said:
The two most original, successful and amusing British comedians of the last twenty years, Ricky Gervais and Sacha Baron Cohen, are both right wing - or at the very least they have become famous by viciously satirising leftwing orthodoxies, they get away with it because they disguise it as "irony".bigjohnowls said:Mr Dancer. Strange isn't it. All the funniest comedians seem to be Lefties. I recently got a comedian removed from the Warner leisure venues entertainment future schedule after i complained his material was racist.
Well thats what they told me. Have to say some of the older clientele seemed to be splitting their sides at the "paki uk immigration man joke"
My quite well-informed guess is that both ARE right wing.
http://www.newstatesman.com/comedy/2010/12/ricky-gervais-ince-office0 -
One of the unfunniest comedians is a lefty - Sue Perkins,does anyone find her funny.0
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Mr. Owls, it's unlikely, I'm afraid. One does not simply walk into Mordor.
Hope it makes you feel leftwing guilt for laughing at Sir Edric's exploits.
Edited extra bit: cheers, Mr. Lilburne. May you titter with mirth throughout.0 -
But probably not be a Tory and vote Labour in 2010. I could barely do it myself.RobD said:
I believe you can be a Tory and still appreciate the BBC.Flightpath said:
According to New Statesman article Gervais voted labour in 2010. He also actually believes that the left wing orthodoxy that is the BBC is a Good Thing.SeanT said:
The two most original, successful and amusing British comedians of the last twenty years, Ricky Gervais and Sacha Baron Cohen, are both right wing - or at the very least they have become famous by viciously satirising leftwing orthodoxies, they get away with it because they disguise it as "irony".bigjohnowls said:Mr Dancer. Strange isn't it. All the funniest comedians seem to be Lefties. I recently got a comedian removed from the Warner leisure venues entertainment future schedule after i complained his material was racist.
Well thats what they told me. Have to say some of the older clientele seemed to be splitting their sides at the "paki uk immigration man joke"
My quite well-informed guess is that both ARE right wing.
http://www.newstatesman.com/comedy/2010/12/ricky-gervais-ince-office0 -
Well, yeah. I was just commenting on your second point! Not sure what constituency he lives in, perhaps it was tactical?bigjohnowls said:
But probably not be a Tory and vote Labour in 2010. I could barely do it myself.RobD said:
I believe you can be a Tory and still appreciate the BBC.Flightpath said:
According to New Statesman article Gervais voted labour in 2010. He also actually believes that the left wing orthodoxy that is the BBC is a Good Thing.SeanT said:
The two most original, successful and amusing British comedians of the last twenty years, Ricky Gervais and Sacha Baron Cohen, are both right wing - or at the very least they have become famous by viciously satirising leftwing orthodoxies, they get away with it because they disguise it as "irony".bigjohnowls said:Mr Dancer. Strange isn't it. All the funniest comedians seem to be Lefties. I recently got a comedian removed from the Warner leisure venues entertainment future schedule after i complained his material was racist.
Well thats what they told me. Have to say some of the older clientele seemed to be splitting their sides at the "paki uk immigration man joke"
My quite well-informed guess is that both ARE right wing.
http://www.newstatesman.com/comedy/2010/12/ricky-gervais-ince-office
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Shakespeare was an obvious conservative. Stoppard, the greatest playwright of the current age, is too.
Chaucer was a class traitor
Shakespeare hated the mob
Donne sold out a bit later
Sidney was a nob
Marlowe was an elitist
Ben Jonson was much the same
Bunyan was a defeatist
Dryden played the game
There’s a sniff of reaction
About Alexander Pope
Sam Johnson was a Tory
And Walter Scott a dope
Coleridge was a right winger
Keats was lower middle class
Wordsworth was a cringer
But William Blake was a gas
Dickens was a reformist
Tennyson was a blue
Disraeli was mostly pissed
And nothing that Trollope said was true
Willy Yeats was a fascist
So were Eliot and Pound
Lawrence was a sexist
Virginia Woolf was unsound
There are only three names
To be plucked from this dismal set
Milton Blake and Shelley
Will smash the ruling class yet
Milton Blake and Shelley
Will smash the ruling class yet.0 -
volcanopete said:
I can confidently predict South Thanet voters will be bombarded with dodgy bar charts.
It's a three-way contest and, like Mike, I like Labour. There is also an under-reported demographic phenomenon in the constituency related to HS1. The opening of the line has meant the seat has attracted an influx of new residents from London, who have now chosen to make the constituency their home. These voters are young, professional types and whilst not exclusively Labour they are Labour-leaning. Campaigns have reported knocking on doors awaiting an elderly couple and being confronted with something entirely different. In fact it gets better for Labour because a number of the new residents were very active in Labour politics in London.MarkHopkins said:On Topic: I'm not sure Farage expects to win this seat. Looks more like a pulpit to preach about UKIP generally.
Would he even want to win? And have to stop grandstanding in the Euro parliament (which he is very good at).
Some estimates have put this influx in the thousands but it is difficult to judge because this is post-2011 for the most part. Although there has been something of an uptick in younger age groups from 2001 to 2011, which is possibly catching the early stages of this phenomenon.
Oh, and thans for posting my profile of the seat volcanopete.0 -
Blackburn 1 - 1 Cardiff .......... Yay!peter_from_putney said:O/T
With the new 2014 - 2015 Football League season starting tonight, I've backed the promotion favourites Cardiff City to win or draw at Blackburn at 4/5 with Betfair.
DYOR.0 -
Mr. Putney, congrats.0
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I was reading the names of the Selebs that has signed the letter asking Scotland not to leave the Union and was surprised by the number that I think could be Tories. Here's the one's I would have as certain or possible Con supporters:
Sir Ben Ainslie, Roger Allam, Kirstie Allsop, Steve Backley, Dickie Bird, Cilla Black, Gyles Brandreth, Will Carling, Colonel Tim Collins, Ronnie Corbett, Simon Cowell, Steve Cram, Lord Michael Dobbs, Ranulph Fiennes, Ben Fogle, Sir Bruce Forsyth, David Gower, Sir Max Hastings, Gloria Hunniford, Sir Mike Jackson, Sir Mick Jagger, Griff Rhys Jones, Jemima Khan, Gabby Logan, Dame Vera Lynn, James May, Andy McNab, Al Murray, Peter Oborne, Sir Michael Parkinson, Sir Steve Redgrave, Sir Cliff Richard, Hugo Rifkind, David Starkey, David Suchet, Daley Thompson, Alan Titchmarsh, Roger Uttley, David Walliams, Zoë Wanamaker
Just my take on the names that stood out as potential or probable Conservatives.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/07/celebrities-open-letter-scotland-independence-full-text0 -
Typical Lefty crap, of no value and formFalseFlag said:Shakespeare was an obvious conservative. Stoppard, the greatest playwright of the current age, is too.
Chaucer was a class traitor
Shakespeare hated the mob
Donne sold out a bit later
Sidney was a nob
Marlowe was an elitist
Ben Jonson was much the same
Bunyan was a defeatist
Dryden played the game
There’s a sniff of reaction
About Alexander Pope
Sam Johnson was a Tory
And Walter Scott a dope
Coleridge was a right winger
Keats was lower middle class
Wordsworth was a cringer
But William Blake was a gas
Dickens was a reformist
Tennyson was a blue
Disraeli was mostly pissed
And nothing that Trollope said was true
Willy Yeats was a fascist
So were Eliot and Pound
Lawrence was a sexist
Virginia Woolf was unsound
There are only three names
To be plucked from this dismal set
Milton Blake and Shelley
Will smash the ruling class yet
Milton Blake and Shelley
Will smash the ruling class yet.
'cause deriding past greats is merely their norm.
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They'll all rue the day.GIN1138 said:I was reading the names of the Selebs that has signed the letter asking Scotland not to leave the Union and was surprised by the number that I think could be Tories. Here's the one's I would have as certain or possible Con supporters:
Sir Ben Ainslie, Roger Allam, Kirstie Allsop, Steve Backley, Dickie Bird, Cilla Black, Gyles Brandreth, Will Carling, Colonel Tim Collins, Ronnie Corbett, Simon Cowell, Steve Cram, Lord Michael Dobbs, Ranulph Fiennes, Ben Fogle, Sir Bruce Forsyth, David Gower, Sir Max Hastings, Gloria Hunniford, Sir Mike Jackson, Sir Mick Jagger, Griff Rhys Jones, Jemima Khan, Gabby Logan, Dame Vera Lynn, James May, Andy McNab, Al Murray, Peter Oborne, Sir Michael Parkinson, Sir Steve Redgrave, Sir Cliff Richard, Hugo Rifkind, David Starkey, David Suchet, Daley Thompson, Alan Titchmarsh, Roger Uttley, David Walliams, Zoë Wanamaker
Just my take on the names that stood out as potential or probable Conservatives.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/07/celebrities-open-letter-scotland-independence-full-text
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Is that the same Zoe Wanamaker who was so proud of her trade union pioneer ancestors in WDYTYA? And whose father came to England from America to escape blacklisting of communists.0
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Lay Farage - he will be flayed alive.
Free money IMHO.0 -
Thanks Morris - I rather like the so-called "double chance" football markets as it means, rather like tennis, there are only two outcomes and one doesn't get beaten up by those pesky draws. The alternative is simply to lay the unfancied side ..... Blackburn in tonight's case. The end result is much the same, but of course one can only lay on the exchanges, or by using "the machines" as Shadsy chooses to call them.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Putney, congrats.
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She was one that I was most unsure about, but I thought she sounded "quite Conservative" LOL!frpenkridge said:Is that the same Zoe Wanamaker who was so proud of her trade union pioneer ancestors in WDYTYA? And whose father came to England from America to escape blacklisting of communists.
Hope I don't get Mike sued..
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No sign as yet of tonight's YouGov/Sun VI poll.
Too much to hope for two crossovers in one day I guess!0 -
P J O'Rourke hardly a leftie, but very, very funny.
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It only comes 4 days a week I thought, so Mon-Thu?peter_from_putney said:No sign as yet of tonight's YouGov/Sun VI poll.
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No YouGov tonight.peter_from_putney said:No sign as yet of tonight's YouGov/Sun VI poll.
Too much to hope for two crossovers in one day I guess!
Get an early night ready for #CrossOverSaturday
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they don't publish one on Saturday!peter_from_putney said:No sign as yet of tonight's YouGov/Sun VI poll.
Too much to hope for two crossovers in one day I guess!
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GIN - my guess is that your list is about 90% correct, but there are always a few surprises in trying to guess peoples' politics0
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Useless factoid -- Approximately 2.8 million people have been polled in the last 4 years for general election voting intentions. Obviously, some more than once!0
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Indeed. Generally you assume the one's with the most money and who have homes all over the place to try and keep their tax bills down are going to be natural Tories, but not always...peter_from_putney said:GIN - my guess is that your list is about 90% correct, but there are always a few surprises in trying to guess peoples' politics
#champagnesocialists
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If Farage is seen to be failing in Thanet South, bearing in mind that he's been in a position to cherry-pick from any number of constituencies, there has to be a significant risk that UKIP's GE campaign could be severely derailed as a result.TGOHF said:Lay Farage - he will be flayed alive.
Free money IMHO.0 -
Thanks - I thought Sunday was the only void day.JohnLilburne said:
they don't publish one on Saturday!peter_from_putney said:No sign as yet of tonight's YouGov/Sun VI poll.
Too much to hope for two crossovers in one day I guess!0 -
Mr. Charles, I obviously don't know the details of the case but from personal experience I'd say American cats are, like American ladies, and I say this with full respect to your wife, not quite what we are used to.Charles said:
I was reading an article by the former Coroner of LA, publicising her memoirs.HurstLlama said:
I am not sure vindictive is quite the word, totally self-centred, bereft of a conscience but very aware of their own dignity. They can be susceptible to band language (see Jerome), which The Bute actually isn't, and can seek revenge if they feel their dignity has been slighted, which The Brute definitely does. They also sulk.Morris_Dancer said:Good evening, everyone.
Mr. Llama, cats sound quite vindictive.
She mentioned, in passing, that if you die alone in a locked flat, a dog will lie by your side, starving, and pinning you for days. A cat won't even make it past *ahem* dinner time.
She said it was the worst thing she'd ever seen in her career.0 -
RobD Al Murray is no Tory, though his act is a Kipper. Steve Cram is Labour, Max Hastings voted for Blair in '97 and '01. Eddie Izzard, another signatory, campaigned for Brown and the Euro. Doreen Lawrence is left-leaning. Of Yes celebrities, Sir Sean Connery I am sure voted for Thatcher!0
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Care to enlarge on that, Mr llama? :-)HurstLlama said:
Mr. Charles, I obviously don't know the details of the case but from personal experience I'd say American cats are, like American ladies, and I say this with full respect to your wife, not quite what we are used to.Charles said:
I was reading an article by the former Coroner of LA, publicising her memoirs.HurstLlama said:
I am not sure vindictive is quite the word, totally self-centred, bereft of a conscience but very aware of their own dignity. They can be susceptible to band language (see Jerome), which The Bute actually isn't, and can seek revenge if they feel their dignity has been slighted, which The Brute definitely does. They also sulk.Morris_Dancer said:Good evening, everyone.
Mr. Llama, cats sound quite vindictive.
She mentioned, in passing, that if you die alone in a locked flat, a dog will lie by your side, starving, and pinning you for days. A cat won't even make it past *ahem* dinner time.
She said it was the worst thing she'd ever seen in her career.0 -
Joan Rivers on Hamas http://order-order.com/2014/08/08/watch-joan-rivers-on-hamas/0
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How come they never ask me?!RobD said:Useless factoid -- Approximately 2.8 million people have been polled in the last 4 years for general election voting intentions. Obviously, some more than once!
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I suspect it is a lot closer to 1 person being asked 2.8 million times, rather than 2.8 million people being asked once ;-)Sunil_Prasannan said:
How come they never ask me?!RobD said:Useless factoid -- Approximately 2.8 million people have been polled in the last 4 years for general election voting intentions. Obviously, some more than once!
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Register with YouGov and you will. I get polled most days, though a lot is non-political. I have been propping up the LD vote for about a year. It does make me suspicious of online polling!Sunil_Prasannan said:
How come they never ask me?!RobD said:Useless factoid -- Approximately 2.8 million people have been polled in the last 4 years for general election voting intentions. Obviously, some more than once!
I concur with HYUFD that laying Farage will likely be a nice little earner!0 -
She's OK on Bake-Off.Tykejohnno said:One of the unfunniest comedians is a lefty - Sue Perkins,does anyone find her funny.
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Personally I think if Farage stands in South Thanet then he is a fool. The Tories have played a blinder by picking a former UKIP leader and committed BOO supporter as their candidate. Farage should look elsewhere.
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Not on a public forum, old chap, no. Suffice to say that the initial evidence to support my thesis was gathered on my first trip to the USA. Subsequent trips merely added to the evidence file. I suppose I should declare that I have never been to the USA purely for a holiday and I never made it to the West Coast, so I do accept that Californian cats and ladies might be different again (or indeed those from other West Coast states).Tim_B said:
Care to enlarge on that, Mr llama? :-)HurstLlama said:
Mr. Charles, I obviously don't know the details of the case but from personal experience I'd say American cats are, like American ladies, and I say this with full respect to your wife, not quite what we are used to.Charles said:
I was reading an article by the former Coroner of LA, publicising her memoirs.HurstLlama said:
I am not sure vindictive is quite the word, totally self-centred, bereft of a conscience but very aware of their own dignity. They can be susceptible to band language (see Jerome), which The Bute actually isn't, and can seek revenge if they feel their dignity has been slighted, which The Brute definitely does. They also sulk.Morris_Dancer said:Good evening, everyone.
Mr. Llama, cats sound quite vindictive.
She mentioned, in passing, that if you die alone in a locked flat, a dog will lie by your side, starving, and pinning you for days. A cat won't even make it past *ahem* dinner time.
She said it was the worst thing she'd ever seen in her career.0 -
Michael Caine also supports Scottish independence despite being a Tory, but maybe because he wants the English to govern themselves http://www.scotsman.com/news/interview-michael-caine-1-4786280
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Nigel Pearson has a better record than MON, who is still revered at Leicester, but most of MONs time was in the Premier League.peter_from_putney said:
Strange what happened to Martin O''Neil - he seemed to lose his way.foxinsoxuk said:
Good spot. I think worth a couple of quid. I thought Leicester on +44 was value too. We have a tough start with Everton (H), Chelsea (A) Arsenal (H) and Man U (H) all before mid September. So those odds may get better.MikeSmithson said:
I've backed Burnley at 12 on Betfair's Premiership Handicap market where they start +52. Next one down is at 44. With that size handicap they could get relegated and still "win".peter_from_putney said:O/T
With the new 2014 - 2015 Football League season starting tonight, I've backed the promotion favourites Cardiff City to win or draw at Blackburn at 4/5 with Betfair.
DYOR.
Still, this is what we got promoted for, and it is the best Leicester side and best manager since the MON years.
As regards the handicap markets, most bookies tend to take these down as soon as the season starts, so now's probably the time to put your money down!
Mind you, I start every season optimistic, the triumph of hope over experience.
Southampton to go down is one of my bets, they have sold the team and got a new manager.0 -
So apparently there is a Survation IndyRef poll due, noise is that it is good for the No camp. Here are the previous figures from 1st Aug:
Yes - 40%, No - 46%, Undecided - 14%0 -
Ukip would gain more seats with Farage not standing anywhere - discuss..Richard_Tyndall said:Personally I think if Farage stands in South Thanet then he is a fool. The Tories have played a blinder by picking a former UKIP leader and committed BOO supporter as their candidate. Farage should look elsewhere.
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Of course, any change will be Good News for Yes.0
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Fox I think Farage has a good chance in his home county and with no incumbent. It would be good for democracy to have a few UKIP and Green MPs0
