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The Jenny McGee departure from the NHS is a tricky one for BoJo – the man she nursed – politicalbett

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  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,547

    Moves afoot to get rid of Graham Brady....

    https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1395023721400832003?s=19

    Apparently because he has been arguing against covid policy.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,218

    Is it the nazis from their Antarctic base?
    Nein

    Zey are zee Moon Nazzzzzzis...

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034314/
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,522
    isam said:

    Arsenal have signed a ten year old Kenyan called Leo Messo

    Can't be any worse than William this season....
  • Time_to_LeaveTime_to_Leave Posts: 2,547

    Point of order: It is perfectly possible to have a summer holiday in the UK.
    Speaking as someone whose July holiday is booked for Cornwall, I am certain one can have a holiday in the U.K. However the jury is still out on whether the U.K. is ever going to have a summer this year, so “summer holiday” might be pushing it.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    HYUFD said:

    Why has population increased when the UK birthrate is only 1.68 ie below replacement level? Immigration.

    So if the government reduce immigration via the new points system then the demand for new housing should fall too anyway
    The biggest impact is smaller household units - divorces, delays in partnering up, children moving out sooner etc
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,012
    Leon said:

    Bollocks

    Saying "Biden is a dork" or even "Trump is sane" is orders of magnitude more acceptable than saying "I am a foreign policy wonk and a military expert and I believe advanced non-human technology is interacting with US Forces"

    He's risking his career by saying crazy stuff like this. They all are. That's what's so BIZARRE
    I'm still going to wait for the physicists and engineers to produce some peer reviewed papers on the actual data.

  • Nunu3Nunu3 Posts: 265

    Sad as it is, I can't see how this story damages the PM. If the revelation was that she was quitting because he'd been shagging her then even then I doubt it would do him much damage.

    People know he lies, betrays, cocks up and cocks about. They don't care. If he was ANY other politician they would care. But Brand Boris is the political sensation of this century so far - an entirely fictional concoction that seems to mesmerise by the million.

    Hes rather like Trump in that manner.
    But Boris is far more popular.
  • contrariancontrarian Posts: 5,818

    Add some pump and dump and a big differential in the time it takes to get your money out vs the time that it takes for the scammers get theirs out....
    Bitcoin is crashing because the Chinese Communist Party are having a real crack at it.

    Why? because crypto undermines their ability to control the lives of their citizens. It gives Chinese citizens a sort of private property, away from confiscation, monitoring and taxation, that the government wants to deny them.

  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,792
    Charles said:

    For most people, most of the time, the value of a house is meaningless

    It only matters when (a) you are buying a house which is larger than they house you are selling to fund it* and (b) you are selling a house to move into a smaller property/release capital

    At no other point does it matter

    * if any
    Genius.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,012
    edited May 2021

    Graham Brady?
    He was Chairman of the 1922 Committee but he resigned iirc to fight for the Leadership.. so to get rid of him from what?
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    Alistair said:

    The scam works like this

    Tether ltd creates Tethers.
    Tether gives them to exchanges and gets an IOU (so it is 'fully backed')
    The exchanges buy Bitcoin with the Tether
    Buy pressure makes graph go up.
    Some amount of actual money is extracted from the system by selling Bitcoin for real money.

    Keep that going until the flow of real money from suckers runs out.

    A major Tether related figure was recently jailed for a cool half billion in money laundering in China.
    As I understand it, the key point is that Tether is meant to be "tethered" to USD. The mechanism for this is that, every time someone buys a unit of Tether with USD, $1 gets put into a bank account somewhere. Every time someone sells a unit of Tether for USD, $1 gets paid out from that bank account.

    The scam bit is that the bank account (allegedly) doesn't exist, and the Tether owners just print coins whenever they need to in order to keep buying Bitcoin and pushing the price ever up.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795

    Speaking as someone whose July holiday is booked for Cornwall, I am certain one can have a holiday in the U.K. However the jury is still out on whether the U.K. is ever going to have a summer this year, so “summer holiday” might be pushing it.
    Not this weather nonsense again.

    The weather now has zero impact on the weather in July. None.

    Also, the weather is going to improve next week.

    You have been reading too many of Leon's thrilling posts about it raining now outside his window in Camden Town!
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,705
    wrt inflation.

    I don't see wages rising without which all this inflating away debt is moot.

    And as for the sectors, @nerys has noted how price levels and demand for materials in the construction sector have been very strong.

    But as far as housing is concerned we don't have a supply problem were have an affordability problem.

    Higher construction input prices and affordability problems does not square the circle.
  • contrariancontrarian Posts: 5,818

    Apparently because he has been arguing against covid policy.
    Nah, its more likely because he is a conservative.
  • Time_to_LeaveTime_to_Leave Posts: 2,547

    Not this weather nonsense again.

    The weather now has zero impact on the weather in July. None.

    Also, the weather is going to improve next week.

    You have been reading too many of Leon's thrilling posts about it raining now outside his window in Camden Town!
    Nah, I’m just depressed because my tulips haven’t emerged.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,792
    Leon said:

    You do know there's a whole subculture of UFO sightings dedicated to aliens raping humans with anal probes?



    On the other hand, if Boris Johnson came up behind Philip and did said act and told Philip he was actually a lizard person, Philip would find that perfectly believable
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,012
    Charles said:

    The biggest impact is smaller household units - divorces, delays in partnering up, children moving out sooner etc
    If a population lives in 40 million houses and the occupancy changed from 2.1 to 2.0 you need nearly a million more houses for a reason which is invisible to the naked eye.

    And as you need most of them where pressure is already high and the NIMBYs most active it is a political and practical problem.

  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,317
    edited May 2021

    He was Chairman of the 1922 Committee but he resigned iirc to fight for the Leadership.. so to get rid of him from what?
    He retook the Chair in 2020. He is, unless you can prove me incorrect, still the 1922 Committee Chair.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 14,012

    Bitcoin is crashing because the Chinese Communist Party are having a real crack at it.

    Why? because crypto undermines their ability to control the lives of their citizens. It gives Chinese citizens a sort of private property, away from confiscation, monitoring and taxation, that the government wants to deny them.

    Someone has given the secret 'Sell' signal to the aliens.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,522
    edited May 2021

    He retook the Chair in 2020. He is, unless you can prove me incorrect, still the 1922 Committee Chair.
    The whole story is that each new session the chair has to be re-elected. Normally it is just nodded through unopposed, but

    "I’m told former minister Robert Goodwill is sounding out colleagues, some of who have been told Brady is not seeking re-election. I’m reliably told however that Brady will be standing. This could be a bit of a battle. No date for election set yet..."

    https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1395024303905808385?s=20
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518

    The traffic light system will work fine, so long as amber is jettisoned.
    Starmer seems to be betting the farm on there being thousands of deaths over the next few months. And he’s certainly making it easier for Johnson to resist extending restrictions on June 21st (by increasing the political downsides)
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,806
    edited May 2021

    Not this weather nonsense again.

    The weather now has zero impact on the weather in July. None.

    Also, the weather is going to improve next week.

    You have been reading too many of Leon's thrilling posts about it raining now outside his window in Camden Town!
    You've been telling us "the weather is going to improve next week"... for weeks. It still hasn't, and I fear the forecast next week is much the same. Cool, wet, mediocre at best. It looks like the rest of May is set in stone, and the highest temperature of all of Spring 2021 will be those brief sunny days of ~24C back in late March. Which is extremely unusual.

    It's a record breaking run of cold. Right across northern Europe. There are tentative signs early June will be better - it MUST get better - but who knows. We're four weeks from the turn of the year, when the nights grow longer

  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    Charles said:

    For most people, most of the time, the value of a house is meaningless

    It only matters when (a) you are buying a house which is larger than they house you are selling to fund it* and (b) you are selling a house to move into a smaller property/release capital

    At no other point does it matter

    * if any
    You say that, and it seems totally reasonable in theory. However, the Daily Mail have shifted half a trillion copies based largely on the notion that you're completely wrong in practice.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,012

    He retook the Chair in 2020. He is, unless you can prove me incorrect, still the 1922 Committee Chair.
    Ok ty I did not know that. I have no wish to prove you incorrect.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,264
    Charles said:

    For most people, most of the time, the value of a house is meaningless

    It only matters when (a) you are buying a house which is larger than they house you are selling to fund it* and (b) you are selling a house to move into a smaller property/release capital

    At no other point does it matter

    * if any
    General point is true, but it (notional value) also matters for remortgaging. Our first mortgage (five year deal) came to an end. On remortgaging, our loan to value ratio had dropped hugely, much more through the notional increase in value of the house than what we had paid off. So we became lower risk and got a cheaper rate. We feel richer and we are in fact richer either now (pay less/month) or later (pay the same/month, as we are, to pay less later).

    Of course, if we want to move to a bigger house, we discover we are in fact poorer as the gap between value of our house and cost of bigger house has got bigger than it was five years ago (if both increased by same %). Reverse if we downsize (as you are of course pointing out).
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    Leon said:

    You've been telling us "the weather is going to improve next week"... for weeks. It still hasn't, and I fear the forecast next week is much the same. Cool, wet, mediocre at best. It looks like the rest of May is set in stone, and the highest temperature of all of Spring 2021 will be those brief sunny days of ~24C back in late March. Which is extremely unusual.

    It's a record breaking run of cold. Right across northern Europe. There are tentative signs early June will be better - it MUST get better - but who knows. We're four weeks from the turn of the year, when the nights grow longer

    WRONG

    I have said there has been a signal for a pattern change around 26 May, for a while now.

    Guess what, I'm right. There is a signal.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,564

    He retook the Chair in 2020. He is, unless you can prove me incorrect, still the 1922 Committee Chair.
    I'd vouch that GE 24 is the backstop end of Graeme Brady in post anyway, whatever way his constituency is redrawn.
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    Leon said:

    You've been telling us "the weather is going to improve next week"... for weeks. It still hasn't, and I fear the forecast next week is much the same. Cool, wet, mediocre at best. It looks like the rest of May is set in stone, and the highest temperature of all of Spring 2021 will be those brief sunny days of ~24C back in late March. Which is extremely unusual.

    It's a record breaking run of cold. Right across northern Europe. There are tentative signs early June will be better - it MUST get better - but who knows. We're four weeks from the turn of the year, when the nights grow longer

    ALIENS.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,939
    Pro_Rata said:

    I'd vouch that GE 24 is the backstop end of Graeme Brady in post anyway, whatever way his constituency is redrawn.
    The trend, and the recent local elections results, are not his friend.
  • Nunu3Nunu3 Posts: 265

    Starmer wants government to drop the traffic light system and finally close the borders...i.e. if he had his way no summer hols....how unpopular does he want to become?

    Finally, a Labour leader calling for tough border controls.......but in all the wrong ways. Tsk.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    Everything green again on the daily update.

    Only 3 deaths reported today.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,317
    alex_ said:

    Starmer seems to be betting the farm on there being thousands of deaths over the next few months. And he’s certainly making it easier for Johnson to resist extending restrictions on June 21st (by increasing the political downsides)
    That took some reading.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 31,317

    Ok ty I did not know that. I have no wish to prove you incorrect.
    It's easily achieved.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,823

    Everything green again on the daily update.

    Only 3 deaths reported today.

    Herd. Immunity.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,806

    WRONG

    I have said there has been a signal for a pattern change around 26 May, for a while now.

    Guess what, I'm right. There is a signal.
    I'm happy to have a fistfight over ALIENS. But not the drizzle. Let's hope you're right, I want WARMTH. It feels like we've been trapped in a fucking grey tupperware box, in a leaky old fridge, since last September
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    FWIW there does seem to be a real push from elements of the US to say that there are things out there doing stuff that we can't explain (from a former US President down), and moreover this has noticeably increased in intensity over the past 12 months.

    The question is why.

    Is it some sort of push to increase defence spending?

    Unlikely - there's no pushback to do so even without this.

    So why?
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Leon said:

    I have a feeling a ninety foot tall genderfluid sex alien could approach Philip from behind, yank down his Cross of St George Boxer shorts, and rape him with an intergalactic love-bassoon, and he'd say it was "an optical illusion"
    What the actual fuck!? 😲👽🍆😱😂

    Made me laugh out loud Leon, I wasn't expecting that!
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    Chameleon said:

    FWIW there does seem to be a real push from elements of the US to say that there are things out there doing stuff that we can't explain (from a former US President down), and moreover this has noticeably increased in intensity over the past 12 months.

    The question is why.

    Is it some sort of push to increase defence spending?

    Unlikely - there's no pushback to do so even without this.

    So why?

    Comedy value.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Leon said:

    I'm happy to have a fistfight over ALIENS. But not the drizzle. Let's hope you're right, I want WARMTH. It feels like we've been trapped in a fucking grey tupperware box, in a leaky old fridge, since last September
    Its gloriously warm and sunny right now up here in the frigid wastelands of the north that you mock so much.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,738
    MaxPB said:

    Herd. Immunity.
    Not quite - but we probably aren't that far off.

    Someone asked a question regarding the Indian variant earlier today and when I think about it I think the initial increase in cases is coming from the travellers returning home and infecting their immediate (multi-generation) family but it's not going to get much further as outside the house most people are both vaccinated and at a slight distance (so are less likely to catch it anyway).

    Hence the Indian variant is really a last hurrah before Covid moves on to be just one of those things people catch at times (like flu).
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,929
    Endillion said:

    ALIENS.
    Bloody good film.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,630

    Its gloriously warm and sunny right now up here in the frigid wastelands of the north that you mock so much.
    Just back from walking the hound and it was gorgeous out there. Finally a beautiful May day in southern England. BBQ tonight to look forward to. And aliens about to be announced... maybe they are here for the Euros?
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    Leon said:

    I'm happy to have a fistfight over ALIENS. But not the drizzle. Let's hope you're right, I want WARMTH. It feels like we've been trapped in a fucking grey tupperware box, in a leaky old fridge, since last September
    Oh I agree, but as a gardener you have to take what you can get while you can. My garden is finally growing – the lawn shoots are popping up after a cold, bone dry April where nothing grew. There's now a slow road to warmth starting in a week.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,218
    UK cases by specimen date

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    UK case summary

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  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,821
    3 deaths reported today. 7 day average now well into single figures.
    Hospitalisations down again, to 86. 7 day average tickling 100.
    Positive tests 2696, which is a tiny, tiny drop from this time next week. But the yellow on the map is creeping across England. OTOH, Bolton still going up - hopefully less steeply now but can't be sure.
    Picture broadly positive but I'll be happier once Bolton starts trending downwards.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,218
    UK Hospitals

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  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    eek said:

    Not quite - but we probably aren't that far off.

    Someone asked a question regarding the Indian variant earlier today and when I think about it I think the initial increase in cases is coming from the travellers returning home and infecting their immediate (multi-generation) family but it's not going to get much further as outside the house most people are both vaccinated and at a slight distance (so are less likely to catch it anyway).

    Hence the Indian variant is really a last hurrah before Covid moves on to be just one of those things people catch at times (like flu).
    The thing is there’s no hiding this. When the U.K. variant was spreading through the U.K. and then Europe, there was in some places a false confidence because the growth in U.K. variant from a small base was being masked by a general overall downwards trend. Whereas the U.K. base numbers are so low, it really should be feeding into the headline numbers pretty rapidly if it is as transmissible as some are claiming. (without even considering whether this should actually be a concern if few are getting ill)
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,218
    UK R

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  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,806
    The senior political writer for The National Review here

    Basically: "Yes, it really could be aliens"

    https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/the-conventional-wisdom-on-ufos-is-shifting/


    This is the entire US political establishment, left to right, lining up behind the aliens hypothesis

    Even if it is nonsense, something spectacularly strange is happening
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    MaxPB said:

    Herd. Immunity.

    I think some areas have it but others still a way to go – be interesting to see the tone of the 1700hrs conference. Boris sounded pretty upbeat in the Commons earlier, suggests he's getting promising reports.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,398
    edited May 2021
    One might note that it's a remarkable coincidence that just as the tools to create footage at home that's indistinguishable from movies becomes easily available, and just as thousands of tutorials of how to do this appear on YouTube, that there's a raft of grainy home movies with UFOs in them.

    (Yes, this is different from pilots in the Air Force.)
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    Cookie said:

    Yes, lots of us have, over the past 30 years, vastly increased the amount of square footage of house we occupy - largely through the process described above. A family of four who bought their house in the 90s and lived in it perfectly happily is now a retired couple of two, living in the same house, plus two children each living in a small two bed flat. This process has happened over and over and over again. The result has been that those least able to afford a house are now sleeping on their Mum's sofa in her one bed flat.

    This has been the result of nothing more malign than demographic change.

    I was manning a consultation relating to a large greenfield housing development a couple of years back. Lots and lots and lots of people angry that their bit of countryside was going to be built on and that their roads would be busier. In amongst which, a cleaner at the community centre came to have a look. "Please," she said to me under her breath, "just build them. I don't care what they look like. I don't care about newts. I've got two grown up sons living in my living room because they can't get a house. Just build them."
    But, I suspect she didn't fill in the response form, while the middle-class* hordes who lived adjacent to the green belt in question did.

    *I don't use this pejoratively. I'm middle classs. It's a good thing to be. But we need to recognise that our views aren't necessarily those of everyone.
    Great post

    It’s a fundamental problem. People aren’t moving out of their family homes when their children grow up - and we’re not building anywhere near enough new family homes.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,482
    ping said:

    Comedy value.
    Probably.

    However if the US had discovered (say) a radio signal or some other strong indicator of ET then I imagine they'd be really concerned as to how it might play. In that circumstance perhaps they'd roll out some weak (old and non genuine) stuff just to test the water. I have any such thing as a very low probability indeed, but it sort of fits the pattern, and one day (although perhaps not for many thousands of years) something will be found.

    Slightly more likely is that they want to spend more on space, and having some sort of unspecified threat allows some militarisation which would be completely unacceptable if the threat was only here on Earth.

    Anyway the ET aspect is most likely zero, nut there is just perhaps a politcal aspect.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005

    Everything green again on the daily update.

    Only 3 deaths reported today.

    The daily reported cases number was high. However, I am now of the view that cases is no longer a good way to judge our situation. Hospitalisations continue their slow decline and deaths are now almost zero. Cases may go up in sporadic outbreaks particularly in communities with vaccine hesitancy. The numbers still look very good to me.
  • gettingbettergettingbetter Posts: 584
    It is important given the ongoing effects of the pandemic that the Prime minister should not be distracted by all this UFO stuff. It would sensible to delegate it to either the Leader of the House, who is so out of touch with ordinary humans that he might get on better with aliens, or to the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, whose appearance they might feel comfortable with.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,218
    edited May 2021
    Age related data

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    edited May 2021
    Age related data scaled to 100K per age group

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  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,398
    Cookie said:

    3 deaths reported today. 7 day average now well into single figures.
    Hospitalisations down again, to 86. 7 day average tickling 100.
    Positive tests 2696, which is a tiny, tiny drop from this time next week. But the yellow on the map is creeping across England. OTOH, Bolton still going up - hopefully less steeply now but can't be sure.
    Picture broadly positive but I'll be happier once Bolton starts trending downwards.

    Bedford's numbers look the scary ones to me: 75 people in a day is one in a thousand people.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,218
    Vaccinations

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  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,806
    rcs1000 said:

    One might note that it's a remarkable coincidence that just as the tools to create footage at home that's indistinguishable from movies becomes easily available, and just as thousands of tutorials of how to do this appear on YouTube, that there's a raft of grainy home movies with UFOs in them.

    (Yes, this is different from pilots in the Air Force.)

    One might also note that it's a remarkable coincidence that just as Planet Earth goes into spectacularly interesting convulsions - from new technology to AI to a deadly global plague - the supposedly fake aliens turn up mob-handed to have a peek. You can't blame Them
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,218
    CFR

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  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,746
    This is interesting


  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,218
    edited May 2021
    UK summary

    Most indicators are down. The rise in cases seems to be limited - pretty flat at the moment.

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    And it is happening among the unvaccinated groups -

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  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,564
    Some fag packet maths on surge vaccination:

    Current vaccination rate: 7% of adults a week getting one of their jabs, about 3.6m

    3 week program of surge vaccination in, for e.g., Bolton would take
    Population: around 300k of which all adults: 225k, still waiting a dose, 160k.
    Give everyone their next dose -> 160k doses needed, but would have needed 35k doses for normal vaccination anyway.
    So, surge vaccinating Bolton over 3 weeks would require around 40k doses a week to be diverted towards Bolton.

    Say, you wanted to divert 10% or so of the program towards surge vaccination, you could do 10 Boltons every 3 weeks....
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,821
    AlistairM said:

    The daily reported cases number was high. However, I am now of the view that cases is no longer a good way to judge our situation. Hospitalisations continue their slow decline and deaths are now almost zero. Cases may go up in sporadic outbreaks particularly in communities with vaccine hesitancy. The numbers still look very good to me.
    Daily reported number was, I think, ever so slightly lower than last week. There is a weak 7 day pattern to reported positives. So we are still trending downwards. Slightly.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    AlistairM said:

    The daily reported cases number was high. However, I am now of the view that cases is no longer a good way to judge our situation. Hospitalisations continue their slow decline and deaths are now almost zero. Cases may go up in sporadic outbreaks particularly in communities with vaccine hesitancy. The numbers still look very good to me.
    That's true, but w-o-w remains in the green (not sure it will for much longer).

    Absolutely agree about hospitalisations and deaths.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,806
    Omnium said:

    Probably.

    However if the US had discovered (say) a radio signal or some other strong indicator of ET then I imagine they'd be really concerned as to how it might play. In that circumstance perhaps they'd roll out some weak (old and non genuine) stuff just to test the water. I have any such thing as a very low probability indeed, but it sort of fits the pattern, and one day (although perhaps not for many thousands of years) something will be found.

    Slightly more likely is that they want to spend more on space, and having some sort of unspecified threat allows some militarisation which would be completely unacceptable if the threat was only here on Earth.

    Anyway the ET aspect is most likely zero, nut there is just perhaps a politcal aspect.
    You don't even begin to explain why the Yankee political, military and journalistic establishment is behaving like this. I do not believe for a moment they would hype up an extra-terrestrial "threat" so as to "get more money for militarised space research". That's lunatic behaviour. These people, including Obama, are not lunatics
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,929
    DougSeal said:

    This is interesting


    But what are the scenarios?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810

    Not at all, and not just because I find Boris' merit to be extraordinary - like Adam West, he may occasionally dial the camp up to 11 and wear his underpants on the outside, but he always gets the bad guys in the end.

    What I'm celebrating is the weakening of the link between political popularity and the petty, nonsensical smears that the media pushes in order to to inflate their own sense of self-importance. The day they realize that no one's listening to them anymore will be one of the greatest in our history.
    In which case you would have felt the same joy as me at GE17 when Corbyn, having stuck two fingers up to the rabid Tory press, overperformed at the polls.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810
    Leon said:

    Yes very possible. It will remain beyond our understanding, so we won't really bother trying to understand it. We will just accept there is a huge mystery, and go to lunch

    Unless, of course, the evidence continues to pile up, or They start speaking to us
    Just to check in case I'm misreading you on all this - which I've been mainly skipping tbh - you are messing about right? Just seeing if anybody will bite, and if they do having an interior and slightly mean-spirited chortle?
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    alex_ said:

    The thing is there’s no hiding this. When the U.K. variant was spreading through the U.K. and then Europe, there was in some places a false confidence because the growth in U.K. variant from a small base was being masked by a general overall downwards trend. Whereas the U.K. base numbers are so low, it really should be feeding into the headline numbers pretty rapidly if it is as transmissible as some are claiming. (without even considering whether this should actually be a concern if few are getting ill)
    The flip side is that the numbers are so low that the doom-mongers are extrapolating to death any even marginal rise in numbers, conveniently ignoring the vaccine wall standing in the way of anything other than relatively small rises in numbers.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,630
    DougSeal said:

    This is interesting


    So better than even the best case scenario? Top modelling chaps!
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,218
    Cookie said:

    Daily reported number was, I think, ever so slightly lower than last week. There is a weak 7 day pattern to reported positives. So we are still trending downwards. Slightly.
    Bit down in the specimen day numbers from the peak on the 10th

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  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468

    But what are the scenarios?
    A link would be wonderful
  • LennonLennon Posts: 1,797
    ping said:

    Great post

    It’s a fundamental problem. People aren’t moving out of their family homes when their children grow up - and we’re not building anywhere near enough new family homes.
    Which is part of the reason we should implement policies which encourage people to live in houses of an appropriate size (ie encourage those boomer empty nesters to downsize). Which suggests abolition of Stamp Duty entirely and the implementation of an annual Land Tax of some form.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,821
    rcs1000 said:

    Bedford's numbers look the scary ones to me: 75 people in a day is one in a thousand people.
    This graph is helpful for context:
    https://twitter.com/RP131/status/1395040527280713728/photo/1
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,746
    Leon said:

    You've been telling us "the weather is going to improve next week"... for weeks. It still hasn't, and I fear the forecast next week is much the same. Cool, wet, mediocre at best. It looks like the rest of May is set in stone, and the highest temperature of all of Spring 2021 will be those brief sunny days of ~24C back in late March. Which is extremely unusual.

    It's a record breaking run of cold. Right across northern Europe. There are tentative signs early June will be better - it MUST get better - but who knows. We're four weeks from the turn of the year, when the nights grow longer

    Five Weeks
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    Lennon said:

    Which is part of the reason we should implement policies which encourage people to live in houses of an appropriate size (ie encourage those boomer empty nesters to downsize). Which suggests abolition of Stamp Duty entirely and the implementation of an annual Land Tax of some form.
    I think a tax on having too many empty bedrooms might be very popular.

    What could we call it?
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,564
    Leon said:

    One might also note that it's a remarkable coincidence that just as Planet Earth goes into spectacularly interesting convulsions - from new technology to AI to a deadly global plague - the supposedly fake aliens turn up mob-handed to have a peek. You can't blame Them
    I come in peace. I bring.....

    popcorn
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810

    I'm one of those - though in a terraced house, rather than a flat.

    I am within 15 minutes' walk of at least 50 bars, 50 restaurants and hundreds of shops of every description. The sheer joy of never having to worry about drinking and driving is heaven on earth to me.
    I hate the idea of needing a car for going anywhere. Also not being able to see any other people or residences from my own. That would freak me out and make me feel rather uneasy.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,821
    Lennon said:

    Which is part of the reason we should implement policies which encourage people to live in houses of an appropriate size (ie encourage those boomer empty nesters to downsize). Which suggests abolition of Stamp Duty entirely and the implementation of an annual Land Tax of some form.
    That would screw me. I live in a large house because I have a large family. But that doesn't make this the wrong thing to do.
  • LennonLennon Posts: 1,797
    edited May 2021
    New Thread btw...
    Endillion said:

    I think a tax on having too many empty bedrooms might be very popular.

    What could we call it?
    An under-occupation levy I believe is the suggested name... ;)
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,264

    So better than even the best case scenario? Top modelling chaps!
    False negatives, innit? :wink:
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810
    TOPPING said:

    wrt inflation.

    I don't see wages rising without which all this inflating away debt is moot.

    And as for the sectors, @nerys has noted how price levels and demand for materials in the construction sector have been very strong.

    But as far as housing is concerned we don't have a supply problem were have an affordability problem.

    Higher construction input prices and affordability problems does not square the circle.

    That's very interesting, Topping.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    Leon said:

    The senior political writer for The National Review here

    Basically: "Yes, it really could be aliens"

    https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/the-conventional-wisdom-on-ufos-is-shifting/


    This is the entire US political establishment, left to right, lining up behind the aliens hypothesis

    Even if it is nonsense, something spectacularly strange is happening

    "the entire US political establishment, left to right, lining up behind the aliens hypothesis"

    Really? That statement is itself nonsense.

    Just bring up the New York Times website on you computer. And search of a mention of the word "alien". Which yours truly just did. With ZERO results.

    Of course could be that the aliens are suppressing the "fact" that the "entire US political establishment" is as obsessed with UFOs or whatever the kids are calling them these days, as you are PRETENDING to be?

    Remember Leon critiquing CycleFree for being MUCH MUCH MUCH to long with her commentaries.

    Talk about the Alien calling the Earthling green!

  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,924
    edited May 2021

    Are you suggesting Nessie doesn't exist
    Ah. Oops. I apologise to all Plesiosaurs, past and present, as well as St Columba.
  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,592
    rcs1000 said:

    Bedford's numbers look the scary ones to me: 75 people in a day is one in a thousand people.
    Maybe an artefact of surge testing - the daily run rate around that 75 is much lower, and the number of new cases reported today (49) also suggests there isn't a big up tick from that 75 to come afterwards.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,806

    "the entire US political establishment, left to right, lining up behind the aliens hypothesis"

    Really? That statement is itself nonsense.

    Just bring up the New York Times website on you computer. And search of a mention of the word "alien". Which yours truly just did. With ZERO results.

    Of course could be that the aliens are suppressing the "fact" that the "entire US political establishment" is as obsessed with UFOs or whatever the kids are calling them these days, as you are PRETENDING to be?

    Remember Leon critiquing CycleFree for being MUCH MUCH MUCH to long with her commentaries.

    Talk bout the Alien calling the Earthling green!

    You didn't google very hard. The NYTimes was actually the first huge media corp to approach this in a serious way, famously so, in 2017

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/18/insider/secret-pentagon-ufo-program.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/29/science/ufos-aliens-space-travel.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/unidentified-flying-object-navy.html
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810

    WRONG

    I have said there has been a signal for a pattern change around 26 May, for a while now.

    Guess what, I'm right. There is a signal.
    Yep. June's looking like a scorcher. Wear a hat, use plenty of high factor lotion, and stay hydrated.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,522
    edited May 2021
    Death Rigby banging on about confusion and mixed messages....yawn.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005

    Bit down in the specimen day numbers from the peak on the 10th

    image
    The increase in hotspot areas is basically being cancelled out by decreases elsewhere. Hopefully the targeted testing and vaccinations will keep localised outbreaks exactly that - localised.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,606
    How about killing two birds with one stone? Build new towns in Llanidloes and Crianlarich. The sheep farmers, whose land will no longer be needed for sheep, sell their farms to developers. Thousands of affordable houses away from NIMBYs. As the residents will be working from home, they won’t need to change jobs. Win win!
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,689

    Everything green again on the daily update.

    Only 3 deaths reported today.

    One hit by a bus, one drowning and one electrocuted?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,810
    edited May 2021

    There couldn't.

    The USSR failed.
    Another cutie reply. But not quite the point. They managed to have a huge public sector without a private sector to pay for it for a long long time.

    We've actually done this one, you and I, about a year ago. You surprised me then by obliquely acknowledging the point and ceasing to argue it. It was you at your very best and therefore quite a moment. Guess that's why it's stuck in memory.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 59,398
    Cookie said:

    Yes, lots of us have, over the past 30 years, vastly increased the amount of square footage of house we occupy - largely through the process described above. A family of four who bought their house in the 90s and lived in it perfectly happily is now a retired couple of two, living in the same house, plus two children each living in a small two bed flat. This process has happened over and over and over again. The result has been that those least able to afford a house are now sleeping on their Mum's sofa in her one bed flat.

    This has been the result of nothing more malign than demographic change.

    I was manning a consultation relating to a large greenfield housing development a couple of years back. Lots and lots and lots of people angry that their bit of countryside was going to be built on and that their roads would be busier. In amongst which, a cleaner at the community centre came to have a look. "Please," she said to me under her breath, "just build them. I don't care what they look like. I don't care about newts. I've got two grown up sons living in my living room because they can't get a house. Just build them."
    But, I suspect she didn't fill in the response form, while the middle-class* hordes who lived adjacent to the green belt in question did.

    *I don't use this pejoratively. I'm middle classs. It's a good thing to be. But we need to recognise that our views aren't necessarily those of everyone.
    This is an incredibly insightful post, and also demonstrates one of the massive problems of stamp duty: it's a frickin' tax on trading down.

    The tax system should encourage the efficient allocation of resources. Stamp duty does the opposite.
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