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A lot depends on how the proposal for local Government re-organisation is couched. Taking Surrey as an example, if the County puts up a proposal saying it can do everything, the Districts and Boroughs kick off and for those Conservative "twin hatters", it's a dilemma. Do you back the County against your own District - do you stand up in the District chamber and argue for your own abolition?JohnO said:
It's generally accepted that Amanda Milling persuaded Boris to retreat last autumn from a mass move to unitaries (plus preference for elected Mayors), having been confronted by swathes of mutinous Tory District and Borough Councillors.
In its consultation, the Government proposed authorities with a population base of 350,000 so that would split Surrey into three and that proposal has been doing the rounds for decades and has the benefit of being equally disliked by everyone.
The problem with two-tier is if you get divergent political control at County and District/Borough levels, the relations between the two authorities at member level can become acrimonious to the disbenefit of both.
In London, Newham is a Unitary authority but we also have the Mayor's office and the GLA so it's not straightforward.
The other trend in recent years has been for Councils to amalgamate or consolidate back-office functions to save money. If one Council can do the payroll for four or five other authorities, there's a saving. I'd have though one authority administering the Council Tax collection for two, three or eleven others would make sense. In the end, though, the contracts with providers like Northgate or Capita leave elected officials with very little room for manoeuvre.0 -
St Paul’s Chapel in Aberystwyth is also now a pub (the Academy).Mexicanpete said:
I am not spiritually minded, but I find a church being repurposed as a pub, vaguely depressing.Philip_Thompson said:If we're on the subject of favourite Churches, then can I say this is the kind of Church scene I'd like to see again soon.
The Unitarian Church in Nottingham, aka Pitcher & Piano
One of my lecturers refused to drink in it because an atheist he thought repurposing a chapel as a pub was very offensive.
Quite who it was offensive to, he didn’t say.1 -
Better than knocking it down...Mexicanpete said:
I am not spiritually minded, but I find a church being repurposed as a pub, vaguely depressing.Philip_Thompson said:If we're on the subject of favourite Churches, then can I say this is the kind of Church scene I'd like to see again soon.
The Unitarian Church in Nottingham, aka Pitcher & Piano0 -
Someone on Twitter has suggested that Macron is, deep down, an anti-vaxxer.rottenborough said:
So much for the French Enlightenment.Leon said:
It would be nice if one person in the EU, just one, just one single person, came out and said "Sorry for all the deaths we will be causing with our rank stupidity"rottenborough said:
"But experts fear that some damage has already been done."IanB2 said:CNN: In the EU, leaders will now face the question of how to rebuild any trust in the AstraZeneca vaccine that has been lost over the past week. The bloc's rollout of the jab has stumbled from one obstacle to another since it was approved for use in January, with governments scrambling to secure limited supplies of the jab while simultaneously casting doubts over its efficacy and safety.
Italy said it will resume AstraZeneca vaccinations on Friday, and other countries are expected to follow. Milan's largest vaccine center told CNN it would overbook appointments in an attempt to make up for the shortfalls of the past few days. Ireland's Prime Minister had earlier told CNN he hoped his country could "catch up fairly quickly" once the vaccination program resumed.
But experts fear that some damage has already been done. In France, an Elabe poll showed this week that only 22% of the population now trusts the AstraZeneca vaccine. Remi Salomon, a senior French hospitals official, told BFM TV on Thursday that "people are being overly cautious" in the country and that he feared "people will not interpret" the suspensions in "the right way."
"A scare like this has the potential to increase vaccine hesitancy," Michael Head, senior research fellow in Global Health at the University of Southampton in Britain, told CNN earlier in the week. "These vaccines are to protect against a pandemic virus. There is an urgency to the rollout."
No shit.
But they won't. Handelsblatt never apologised over the "8% effective" story.
My opinion of our EU neighbours - by this I mean some of their media and many of their politicians - could not, I fear, go any lower.
Hmm. It seems incredibly unlikely, for an Enarquist technocrat, but it would explain some of his more bizarre statements. And anti vaxxery is extremely widespread in France, even with people who are otherwise highly intelligent and educated0 -
But only very briefly. Barely time to coat a handle, as we say in Russia...Chameleon said:
Salisbury has quite a spire. Well worth a small diversion to check it out.ydoethur said:
Shrewsbury has an impressive variety of churches too, albeit on a much smaller scale than London.Leon said:
That's criminal neglect. The City churches are one of the jewels of European architecture. No other city in Europe has anything like them, apart from maybe Rome. And the London churches are very different to anywhere else.kinabalu said:
Spent 25 years working in the place and never did any of that. Really wish I had. If only you could stick your 60 year old sensibility into your 30 year old brain. I worked for quite a while next to St Pauls yet never saw the inside of it until a good mate exchanged Grift for God and got ordained there.Burgessian said:
I did a walking tour of the City churches a couple of years ago and was absolutely bowled over by them. The interiors of some are like jewel-boxes. Quite extraordinary.IanB2 said:
I like Christchurch Greyfriars, next to my first place of work, which is bombed out, but provides a great bit of rare open space in the city, which is far more useful than it ever was actually being a church. And LSO St Luke’s, another just outside the city, both for the wonderful outreach musical venue is is nowadays, and for the utterly memorable moment, when it was still bombed out in the 1990s, when I was walking past it accompanying a delegation from the German Post Office to lunch, and they asked me what had happened to it (the idea that it would still be in ruins fifty years later never having occurred to them).Leon said:fpt
"Do others have a favourite City Church?
Having visited them all I probably go for St Vedast-alias-Foster due to the modest Epstein in the Courtyard and All Hallows on the Wall because the ceiling is like a perfect drawing room."
Like Topping I'd go for Hawksmoor's Christ Church, Spitalfields. Possibly my favourite church in the world, not just London. But is it in the City, technically? I think not
So I'd go for either St Brides, Fleet St (Roman foundations in the cellar!), St Stephen Walbrook - Wrenaissance perfection - or St Bartholomew the Great - medieval and picturesque
https://www.themontcalm.com/blog/a-look-at-christ-church-spitalfields/
https://ststephenwalbrook.net/tag/church-design/
https://regentclassicorgans.com/st-bartholomew-the-great/
The two that stood out, in the sense that they were that bit different, were St Barts as it is relatively complete medieval, and the one by the Tower (forget its name) due to the crypt.
But doing a tour of them is highly recommended, just don't do what we did and try to cram in too many at once.
"My Lord, I believe that I am truly called to the life and work of a deacon in your church."
I remember that so well. I'd last seen the bloke pissed as a fart and arguing with a taxi driver.
He went on to serve as an Army Chaplain in Afghanistan. At the time I thought he was nuts but I'm not so sure now.
And they are so varied, it's not just Wren. Go!1 -
That was an unskripalas comment.turbotubbs said:
But only very briefly. Barely time to coat a handle, as we say in Russia...Chameleon said:
Salisbury has quite a spire. Well worth a small diversion to check it out.ydoethur said:
Shrewsbury has an impressive variety of churches too, albeit on a much smaller scale than London.Leon said:
That's criminal neglect. The City churches are one of the jewels of European architecture. No other city in Europe has anything like them, apart from maybe Rome. And the London churches are very different to anywhere else.kinabalu said:
Spent 25 years working in the place and never did any of that. Really wish I had. If only you could stick your 60 year old sensibility into your 30 year old brain. I worked for quite a while next to St Pauls yet never saw the inside of it until a good mate exchanged Grift for God and got ordained there.Burgessian said:
I did a walking tour of the City churches a couple of years ago and was absolutely bowled over by them. The interiors of some are like jewel-boxes. Quite extraordinary.IanB2 said:
I like Christchurch Greyfriars, next to my first place of work, which is bombed out, but provides a great bit of rare open space in the city, which is far more useful than it ever was actually being a church. And LSO St Luke’s, another just outside the city, both for the wonderful outreach musical venue is is nowadays, and for the utterly memorable moment, when it was still bombed out in the 1990s, when I was walking past it accompanying a delegation from the German Post Office to lunch, and they asked me what had happened to it (the idea that it would still be in ruins fifty years later never having occurred to them).Leon said:fpt
"Do others have a favourite City Church?
Having visited them all I probably go for St Vedast-alias-Foster due to the modest Epstein in the Courtyard and All Hallows on the Wall because the ceiling is like a perfect drawing room."
Like Topping I'd go for Hawksmoor's Christ Church, Spitalfields. Possibly my favourite church in the world, not just London. But is it in the City, technically? I think not
So I'd go for either St Brides, Fleet St (Roman foundations in the cellar!), St Stephen Walbrook - Wrenaissance perfection - or St Bartholomew the Great - medieval and picturesque
https://www.themontcalm.com/blog/a-look-at-christ-church-spitalfields/
https://ststephenwalbrook.net/tag/church-design/
https://regentclassicorgans.com/st-bartholomew-the-great/
The two that stood out, in the sense that they were that bit different, were St Barts as it is relatively complete medieval, and the one by the Tower (forget its name) due to the crypt.
But doing a tour of them is highly recommended, just don't do what we did and try to cram in too many at once.
"My Lord, I believe that I am truly called to the life and work of a deacon in your church."
I remember that so well. I'd last seen the bloke pissed as a fart and arguing with a taxi driver.
He went on to serve as an Army Chaplain in Afghanistan. At the time I thought he was nuts but I'm not so sure now.
And they are so varied, it's not just Wren. Go!0 -
From another PB, sorry not sorry.
As a man who has clearly put in his 10,000 hours – working with a wide range of partners and producing an indeterminate number of offspring as a result – you'd expect Boris Johnson to be an expert shag. Not the case according to friends of his private technology tutor, Jennifer Arcuri.
Her experience? Over in seconds and "like having sex with a boulder".0 -
Now waiting for asinine tweets from fans of Pidcock, Burgon, Corbyn about Labour's Hartlepool selection.0
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Just Paris? Prepare for the exodus...Leon said:And finally, Macron yields
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Bridge Hotel in Port Sunlight was once a temperance establishment, thankfully times have changed.ydoethur said:
St Paul’s Chapel in Aberystwyth is also now a pub (the Academy).Mexicanpete said:
I am not spiritually minded, but I find a church being repurposed as a pub, vaguely depressing.Philip_Thompson said:If we're on the subject of favourite Churches, then can I say this is the kind of Church scene I'd like to see again soon.
The Unitarian Church in Nottingham, aka Pitcher & Piano
One of my lecturers refused to drink in it because an atheist he thought repurposing a chapel as a pub was very offensive.
Quite who it was offensive to, he didn’t say.0 -
I read @RochdalePioneers take on it, but I would think with Williams as candidate Hartlepool is now more likely than not to vote Labour. Which, of course, will be the first priority for SKS.dr_spyn said:Now waiting for asinine tweets from fans of Pidcock, Burgon, Corbyn about Labour's Hartlepool selection.
If it had been Pidcock...0 -
He beat off all the others on the long list, then?TheScreamingEagles said:1 -
Remember when we thought Sweden was sensible?
They are waiting until next week to decide if they will resume vaxxing with AZ. They need to "study the EMA report", AKA "My God we've made a terrible juvenile error, let's save face by pretending we are just being careful".
https://twitter.com/DrKassandraPari/status/1372619087797436421?s=200 -
My favourite UK church building is the now deconsecrated St Mary's in Wythall, Worcestershire. It has a stunningly beautiful belltower. No bells since the 1980s sadly.ydoethur said:
Shrewsbury has an impressive variety of churches too, albeit on a much smaller scale than London.Leon said:
That's criminal neglect. The City churches are one of the jewels of European architecture. No other city in Europe has anything like them, apart from maybe Rome. And the London churches are very different to anywhere else.kinabalu said:
Spent 25 years working in the place and never did any of that. Really wish I had. If only you could stick your 60 year old sensibility into your 30 year old brain. I worked for quite a while next to St Pauls yet never saw the inside of it until a good mate exchanged Grift for God and got ordained there.Burgessian said:
I did a walking tour of the City churches a couple of years ago and was absolutely bowled over by them. The interiors of some are like jewel-boxes. Quite extraordinary.IanB2 said:
I like Christchurch Greyfriars, next to my first place of work, which is bombed out, but provides a great bit of rare open space in the city, which is far more useful than it ever was actually being a church. And LSO St Luke’s, another just outside the city, both for the wonderful outreach musical venue is is nowadays, and for the utterly memorable moment, when it was still bombed out in the 1990s, when I was walking past it accompanying a delegation from the German Post Office to lunch, and they asked me what had happened to it (the idea that it would still be in ruins fifty years later never having occurred to them).Leon said:fpt
"Do others have a favourite City Church?
Having visited them all I probably go for St Vedast-alias-Foster due to the modest Epstein in the Courtyard and All Hallows on the Wall because the ceiling is like a perfect drawing room."
Like Topping I'd go for Hawksmoor's Christ Church, Spitalfields. Possibly my favourite church in the world, not just London. But is it in the City, technically? I think not
So I'd go for either St Brides, Fleet St (Roman foundations in the cellar!), St Stephen Walbrook - Wrenaissance perfection - or St Bartholomew the Great - medieval and picturesque
https://www.themontcalm.com/blog/a-look-at-christ-church-spitalfields/
https://ststephenwalbrook.net/tag/church-design/
https://regentclassicorgans.com/st-bartholomew-the-great/
The two that stood out, in the sense that they were that bit different, were St Barts as it is relatively complete medieval, and the one by the Tower (forget its name) due to the crypt.
But doing a tour of them is highly recommended, just don't do what we did and try to cram in too many at once.
"My Lord, I believe that I am truly called to the life and work of a deacon in your church."
I remember that so well. I'd last seen the bloke pissed as a fart and arguing with a taxi driver.
He went on to serve as an Army Chaplain in Afghanistan. At the time I thought he was nuts but I'm not so sure now.
And they are so varied, it's not just Wren. Go!0 -
John and I are I believe both members of the tacit Surrey Resistance Front on this. It wasn't handled well by the Surrey leadership, who rushed out proposals to take up the idea before the Government announcement and were then left with egg on their faces when the Government said er, maybe not, or not yet. I'm really not clear whether it's still coming a year or two later.JohnO said:
It's generally accepted that Amanda Milling persuaded Boris to retreat last autumn from a mass move to unitaries (plus preference for elected Mayors), having been confronted by swathes of mutinous Tory District and Borough Councillors.TheScreamingEagles said:
Some places have unitary councils others have district councils and county councils.dixiedean said:How come there are nearly 20000 councillors?
Northumberland manages with 67.
Scaled up that would make fewer than 14 000 in the UK.
But any government which moved us to all unitaries would face a mass rebellion from their council base.
The "Do you really want Waverley to be governed from Reigate?" argument was quite widely shared here, mostly in relation to planning. But I do agree that most people don't get involved in these squabbles.0 -
No, 16 regions in total I think. Quite a severe lockdown. No internal travel, etcFlatlander said:
Just Paris? Prepare for the exodus...Leon said:And finally, Macron yields
https://twitter.com/BreakingF24/status/1372613542474514442?s=200 -
I was told next Tuesday is a Day of Remembrance for those lost to the coronavirus in the past year.
This doesn't seem to have been well advertised so far - given there have been 125,000 excess deaths, it's entirely appropriate to take the time, before we concentrate on life, to remember those who won't be there to enjoy it with us.0 -
He sounds pretty good, though he's certainly going all in on the NHS card.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I'm not attached to the districts, but I am to the counties.
I'd only support it if, say, Hampshire County Council became the unitary.0 -
Looks like it.Richard_Nabavi said:
He beat off all the others on the long list, then?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
A lot of big womanisers have been famously brief and unsatisfying in bed.TheScreamingEagles said:From another PB, sorry not sorry.
As a man who has clearly put in his 10,000 hours – working with a wide range of partners and producing an indeterminate number of offspring as a result – you'd expect Boris Johnson to be an expert shag. Not the case according to friends of his private technology tutor, Jennifer Arcuri.
Her experience? Over in seconds and "like having sex with a boulder".
JFK and Clinton immediately come to mind. It's all about the conquest, not the pleasure. An alpha male thing, perhaps.0 -
I suppose the question from this is the extent to which our "return to normality" will be affected by the much slower ending of restrictions in parts of Europe.Flatlander said:
Just Paris? Prepare for the exodus...Leon said:And finally, Macron yields
https://twitter.com/BreakingF24/status/1372613542474514442?s=20
The "Great British Staycation" is all well and good but as New Zealand will tell you, it's the money coming in from outside that matters - I presume also we will continue to provide appropriate testing and control measures for be travellers coming through from affected parts of Europe after May 17th.
I note progress in America - Vegas in '22, perhaps?0 -
I wonder how long it will last. Two months?Leon said:
No, 16 regions in total I think. Quite a severe lockdown. No internal travel, etcFlatlander said:
Just Paris? Prepare for the exodus...Leon said:And finally, Macron yields
https://twitter.com/BreakingF24/status/1372613542474514442?s=200 -
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But I can’t imagine that would be possible given the government target of around 300,000 in a UA. You would have to split it into at least four. And it wouldn’t be as easy as taking the largest towns out either as apart from Southampton and Portsmouth, already unitaries, the towns and cities are quite small.Casino_Royale said:I'm not attached to the districts, but I am to the counties.
I'd only support it if, say, Hampshire County Council became the unitary.0 -
Nobody sane ever said Sweden was sensible, I see the Spectator and several users here have forgotten they used to shill for the Swedes0
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The temptation to end her career after a by-election defeat must have been overtaken by the need to win another seat for Labour.ydoethur said:
I read @RochdalePioneers take on it, but I would think with Williams as candidate Hartlepool is now more likely than not to vote Labour. Which, of course, will be the first priority for SKS.dr_spyn said:Now waiting for asinine tweets from fans of Pidcock, Burgon, Corbyn about Labour's Hartlepool selection.
If it had been Pidcock...0 -
Must have been tight though.TheScreamingEagles said:
Looks like it.Richard_Nabavi said:
He beat off all the others on the long list, then?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
What would you call generous? I've just finished 8 hours of discussions over 3 days with half a dozen councillors on allocation of infrastructure funds, and the non-executive members are paid around £10 a day. I think they more than earn their keep. Exec members get around £30/day, which is probably about right for the commitment needed.TheScreamingEagles said:
PB has few past and present councillors and they are also pro making everywhere a unitary.tlg86 said:
Not sure PB has anyone who supports two-tier councils.TheScreamingEagles said:
Some places have unitary councils others have district councils and county councils.dixiedean said:How come there are nearly 20000 councillors?
Northumberland manages with 67.
Scaled up that would make fewer than 14 000 in the UK.
Sadly given the generous allowances councillors receive I cannot see the move to all unitaries happening.0 -
Presumably though we are in normal times a net exporter of tourist money? So from a narrow economic perspective at least, we will keep more money in the UK?stodge said:
I suppose the question from this is the extent to which our "return to normality" will be affected by the much slower ending of restrictions in parts of Europe.Flatlander said:
Just Paris? Prepare for the exodus...Leon said:And finally, Macron yields
https://twitter.com/BreakingF24/status/1372613542474514442?s=20
The "Great British Staycation" is all well and good but as New Zealand will tell you, it's the money coming in from outside that matters - I presume also we will continue to provide appropriate testing and control measures for be travellers coming through from affected parts of Europe after May 17th.
I note progress in America - Vegas in '22, perhaps?0 -
Completely off-the-cuff surprise. Damn, caught at work too!NickPalmer said:
He sounds pretty good, though he's certainly going all in on the NHS card.TheScreamingEagles said:
Having said that he seems a solid candidate.0 -
To be fair, he seems fairly normal and being an NHS doctor helps.Richard_Nabavi said:
He beat off all the others on the long list, then?TheScreamingEagles said:
But fighting on NHS and "cuts" might not be enough given he's a Remainer - and the two come together rather neatly here:
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Evening Malc,malcolmg said:Interesting update re Scotland................https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-great-burn/#comments
This extract from the Wings blog is hilarious:
"And this wholly incidental mention of Liz Lloyd conveniently brings us back to the statement released by an unknown complainer through Rape Crisis Scotland, because Liz Lloyd is the subject of it."
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So much like us...Leon said:
No, 16 regions in total I think. Quite a severe lockdown. No internal travel, etcFlatlander said:
Just Paris? Prepare for the exodus...Leon said:And finally, Macron yields
https://twitter.com/BreakingF24/status/1372613542474514442?s=20
Have we nuked India and the USA yet? Trying to catch up on the news.0 -
He looks like Andrew Scott.0
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It would be great if we could get a non-partisan estimate for what a par result would be in the locals.
It looks like there's plenty of scope for Labour and Lib Dem gains compared to 2016/7, but how many - and where?
I think it was @AlastairMeeks who had a list of constituencies to watch at the next GE - so if there's some overlap with that list too...0 -
This kinda level.NickPalmer said:
What would you call generous? I've just finished 8 hours of discussions over 3 days with half a dozen councillors on allocation of infrastructure funds, and the non-executive members are paid around £10 a day. I think they more than earn their keep. Exec members get around £30/day, which is probably about right for the commitment needed.TheScreamingEagles said:
PB has few past and present councillors and they are also pro making everywhere a unitary.tlg86 said:
Not sure PB has anyone who supports two-tier councils.TheScreamingEagles said:
Some places have unitary councils others have district councils and county councils.dixiedean said:How come there are nearly 20000 councillors?
Northumberland manages with 67.
Scaled up that would make fewer than 14 000 in the UK.
Sadly given the generous allowances councillors receive I cannot see the move to all unitaries happening.
The highest basic allowance in the UK in 2018-19 was set by the Scottish remuneration panel at £16,994 for all Scottish local authorities. Of the 32 councils, 26 Scottish authorities paid the maximum basic allowance to their councillors.
The highest basic allowance for councillors in England in 2018-19 was £16,926, paid by Manchester city council. This was paid to all members of the council including Sir Richard Leese - the leader of Manchester city council. He also received an additional £42,272 in special responsibility allowance. The total payment he received was more than two and a half times median earnings in Manchester during 2019.
The lowest basic allowance for councillors in the UK in 2018-19 was £687, paid by Torbay.
The highest special responsibility allowance in the UK in 2018-19 was £82,620 paid by Newham. This was a £781 increase from 2017-18 for the directly elected mayor.
https://www.taxpayersalliance.com/councillors_allowances_2020
More councils need to be like Cornwall and Torbay.
The lowest basic allowance for councillors in the UK in 2018-19 was £687, paid by Torbay.
The highest special responsibility allowance in the UK in 2018-19 was £82,620 paid by Newham. This was a £781 increase from 2017-18 for the directly elected mayor.
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The "self taught expert on medical matters" thing that was being briefed by his spin doctors the other day was a bit worrying.Leon said:
Someone on Twitter has suggested that Macron is, deep down, an anti-vaxxer.rottenborough said:
So much for the French Enlightenment.Leon said:
It would be nice if one person in the EU, just one, just one single person, came out and said "Sorry for all the deaths we will be causing with our rank stupidity"rottenborough said:
"But experts fear that some damage has already been done."IanB2 said:CNN: In the EU, leaders will now face the question of how to rebuild any trust in the AstraZeneca vaccine that has been lost over the past week. The bloc's rollout of the jab has stumbled from one obstacle to another since it was approved for use in January, with governments scrambling to secure limited supplies of the jab while simultaneously casting doubts over its efficacy and safety.
Italy said it will resume AstraZeneca vaccinations on Friday, and other countries are expected to follow. Milan's largest vaccine center told CNN it would overbook appointments in an attempt to make up for the shortfalls of the past few days. Ireland's Prime Minister had earlier told CNN he hoped his country could "catch up fairly quickly" once the vaccination program resumed.
But experts fear that some damage has already been done. In France, an Elabe poll showed this week that only 22% of the population now trusts the AstraZeneca vaccine. Remi Salomon, a senior French hospitals official, told BFM TV on Thursday that "people are being overly cautious" in the country and that he feared "people will not interpret" the suspensions in "the right way."
"A scare like this has the potential to increase vaccine hesitancy," Michael Head, senior research fellow in Global Health at the University of Southampton in Britain, told CNN earlier in the week. "These vaccines are to protect against a pandemic virus. There is an urgency to the rollout."
No shit.
But they won't. Handelsblatt never apologised over the "8% effective" story.
My opinion of our EU neighbours - by this I mean some of their media and many of their politicians - could not, I fear, go any lower.
Hmm. It seems incredibly unlikely, for an Enarquist technocrat, but it would explain some of his more bizarre statements. And anti vaxxery is extremely widespread in France, even with people who are otherwise highly intelligent and educated0 -
Yes, and breaking up the counties would be about as popular as syphilis.ydoethur said:
But I can’t imagine that would be possible given the government target of around 300,000 in a UA. You would have to split it into at least four. And it wouldn’t be as easy as taking the largest towns out either as apart from Southampton and Portsmouth, already unitaries, the towns and cities are quite small.Casino_Royale said:I'm not attached to the districts, but I am to the counties.
I'd only support it if, say, Hampshire County Council became the unitary.
Remember what happened to Ted Heath. Some of these counties have been around as long as England, if not longer.0 -
They are starting with a month, but they said that back in early 2020, and in the end it lasted 55 days, so two months is a reasonable bet. I wonder if they will be able to restrict it to these 16 regionsFlatlander said:
I wonder how long it will last. Two months?Leon said:
No, 16 regions in total I think. Quite a severe lockdown. No internal travel, etcFlatlander said:
Just Paris? Prepare for the exodus...Leon said:And finally, Macron yields
https://twitter.com/BreakingF24/status/1372613542474514442?s=200 -
To be fair, is Northumberland a good example of a well-run local government area?dixiedean said:How come there are nearly 20000 councillors?
Northumberland manages with 67.
Scaled up that would make fewer than 14 000 in the UK.0 -
Also worth remembering that AstraZeneca is half Swedish too.Leon said:Remember when we thought Sweden was sensible?
They are waiting until next week to decide if they will resume vaxxing with AZ. They need to "study the EMA report", AKA "My God we've made a terrible juvenile error, let's save face by pretending we are just being careful".
https://twitter.com/DrKassandraPari/status/1372619087797436421?s=200 -
Everyone enjoying the US being 'back' so far?Black_Rook said:
Isn't the pipeline nearly finished?Floater said:https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1372597919119998978
What does that mean for Germany?
Presumably they can use Russian contractors with no interest in doing business in the United States. Germany won't care about pissing off Biden. Its leadership is Russophile and it's desperate for the gas.0 -
There is a church in Elgin that was upcycled toa carpet outlet.dr_spyn said:
Bridge Hotel in Port Sunlight was once a temperance establishment, thankfully times have changed.ydoethur said:
St Paul’s Chapel in Aberystwyth is also now a pub (the Academy).Mexicanpete said:
I am not spiritually minded, but I find a church being repurposed as a pub, vaguely depressing.Philip_Thompson said:If we're on the subject of favourite Churches, then can I say this is the kind of Church scene I'd like to see again soon.
The Unitarian Church in Nottingham, aka Pitcher & Piano
One of my lecturers refused to drink in it because an atheist he thought repurposing a chapel as a pub was very offensive.
Quite who it was offensive to, he didn’t say.0 -
Next year, not this.Cookie said:
Presumably though we are in normal times a net exporter of tourist money? So from a narrow economic perspective at least, we will keep more money in the UK?stodge said:
I suppose the question from this is the extent to which our "return to normality" will be affected by the much slower ending of restrictions in parts of Europe.Flatlander said:
Just Paris? Prepare for the exodus...Leon said:And finally, Macron yields
https://twitter.com/BreakingF24/status/1372613542474514442?s=20
The "Great British Staycation" is all well and good but as New Zealand will tell you, it's the money coming in from outside that matters - I presume also we will continue to provide appropriate testing and control measures for be travellers coming through from affected parts of Europe after May 17th.
I note progress in America - Vegas in '22, perhaps?0 -
Shamefully, both New York and New Delhi remain intact.Foxy said:
So much like us...Leon said:
No, 16 regions in total I think. Quite a severe lockdown. No internal travel, etcFlatlander said:
Just Paris? Prepare for the exodus...Leon said:And finally, Macron yields
https://twitter.com/BreakingF24/status/1372613542474514442?s=20
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I am not sure it is. It would seem to be very disrespectful to those who financed and worshipped there during its days as a spiritual building.turbotubbs said:
Better than knocking it down...Mexicanpete said:
I am not spiritually minded, but I find a church being repurposed as a pub, vaguely depressing.Philip_Thompson said:If we're on the subject of favourite Churches, then can I say this is the kind of Church scene I'd like to see again soon.
The Unitarian Church in Nottingham, aka Pitcher & Piano
...and particularly in Wales where good chapel goers were especially hostile to the temptations from the demon drink.ydoethur said:
St Paul’s Chapel in Aberystwyth is also now a pub (the Academy).Mexicanpete said:
I am not spiritually minded, but I find a church being repurposed as a pub, vaguely depressing.Philip_Thompson said:If we're on the subject of favourite Churches, then can I say this is the kind of Church scene I'd like to see again soon.
The Unitarian Church in Nottingham, aka Pitcher & Piano
One of my lecturers refused to drink in it because an atheist he thought repurposing a chapel as a pub was very offensive.
Quite who it was offensive to, he didn’t say.0 -
There's a lot of it about...Malmesbury said:
The "self taught expert on medical matters" thing that was being briefed by his spin doctors the other day was a bit worrying.Leon said:
Someone on Twitter has suggested that Macron is, deep down, an anti-vaxxer.rottenborough said:
So much for the French Enlightenment.Leon said:
It would be nice if one person in the EU, just one, just one single person, came out and said "Sorry for all the deaths we will be causing with our rank stupidity"rottenborough said:
"But experts fear that some damage has already been done."IanB2 said:CNN: In the EU, leaders will now face the question of how to rebuild any trust in the AstraZeneca vaccine that has been lost over the past week. The bloc's rollout of the jab has stumbled from one obstacle to another since it was approved for use in January, with governments scrambling to secure limited supplies of the jab while simultaneously casting doubts over its efficacy and safety.
Italy said it will resume AstraZeneca vaccinations on Friday, and other countries are expected to follow. Milan's largest vaccine center told CNN it would overbook appointments in an attempt to make up for the shortfalls of the past few days. Ireland's Prime Minister had earlier told CNN he hoped his country could "catch up fairly quickly" once the vaccination program resumed.
But experts fear that some damage has already been done. In France, an Elabe poll showed this week that only 22% of the population now trusts the AstraZeneca vaccine. Remi Salomon, a senior French hospitals official, told BFM TV on Thursday that "people are being overly cautious" in the country and that he feared "people will not interpret" the suspensions in "the right way."
"A scare like this has the potential to increase vaccine hesitancy," Michael Head, senior research fellow in Global Health at the University of Southampton in Britain, told CNN earlier in the week. "These vaccines are to protect against a pandemic virus. There is an urgency to the rollout."
No shit.
But they won't. Handelsblatt never apologised over the "8% effective" story.
My opinion of our EU neighbours - by this I mean some of their media and many of their politicians - could not, I fear, go any lower.
Hmm. It seems incredibly unlikely, for an Enarquist technocrat, but it would explain some of his more bizarre statements. And anti vaxxery is extremely widespread in France, even with people who are otherwise highly intelligent and educated1 -
Looking back at yesterday's Dutch General election, we now have results with 98% of the vote counted.
The big winners are D66 23 (+4 but below some of the early forecasts) and the FvD who won 8 seats (+6).
The big losers are the Greens (-6), the Socialists (-5), the centre-right CDA (-4), the far-right PVV (-3) and the 50+ Party (-3)
Rutte's VVD gained two to 35 while two new groups, JA21 and Volt Netherlands joined with 3 MPs each.
The existing Coalition won 78 seats so a majority and it seems likely Rutte will want to continue the existing arrangement.0 -
On the vaccine slowdown:
There are about 53 million adults in the UK. If we assume that, to get out of the shit, we need to jab everyone once plus all the vulnerable groups for a second time, that gets us up to 85 million vaccinations.
As of tonight, 27.6m doses have been administered. Let us be optimistic and assume that we get up to 35m by the end of the month, due to the brief uplift in supply. That leaves 50m to go.
How long will that take if supply from abroad goes to shit, as looks increasingly likely? IIRC, domestic production is about 2m AZ per week and that assumes nothing else goes wrong (bad batches, low yields, vials running out and everything else.) It could be a long, long wait.0 -
Quite.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, and breaking up the counties would be about as popular as syphilis.ydoethur said:
But I can’t imagine that would be possible given the government target of around 300,000 in a UA. You would have to split it into at least four. And it wouldn’t be as easy as taking the largest towns out either as apart from Southampton and Portsmouth, already unitaries, the towns and cities are quite small.Casino_Royale said:I'm not attached to the districts, but I am to the counties.
I'd only support it if, say, Hampshire County Council became the unitary.
Remember what happened to Ted Heath. Some of these counties have been around as long as England, if not longer.
Staffordshire has a similar problem. The only way it could be done is by taking Stafford and Newcastle out as one county, and having the most horrendous, bizarre, convoluted sprawl left based on one of Lichfield or Burton.
Well, that would not be terribly popular.
Edit - or indeed splitting Tamworth, Burton and the Moorlands into one county, and Lichfield, Cannock and Codsall into another. But separating Tamworth and Lichfield would turn two very safe Tory seats into two very safe other seats.0 -
The twats even left the name of the complainer in , they are getting even worse. Bet Wolfe is nowhere to be seen this week. Too busy threatening Spectator and Guido.Burgessian said:
Evening Malc,malcolmg said:Interesting update re Scotland................https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-great-burn/#comments
This extract from the Wings blog is hilarious:
"And this wholly incidental mention of Liz Lloyd conveniently brings us back to the statement released by an unknown complainer through Rape Crisis Scotland, because Liz Lloyd is the subject of it."0 -
I suppose they think the Northern Independence Party are jackbooted Unionist Imperialist overlords.Freggles said:Tonight's big Hartlepool news
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It's mind boggling. The idea that Sweden - home to half of Astra Zeneca, as you say - is going to turn around and come up with a different decision to the EMA, and instead maintain the prohibition on AZ, is nonsensical. Of course they won't do that. They will approve itrcs1000 said:
Also worth remembering that AstraZeneca is half Swedish too.Leon said:Remember when we thought Sweden was sensible?
They are waiting until next week to decide if they will resume vaxxing with AZ. They need to "study the EMA report", AKA "My God we've made a terrible juvenile error, let's save face by pretending we are just being careful".
https://twitter.com/DrKassandraPari/status/1372619087797436421?s=20
So why this? The only explanation I can see is face-saving. Yet another EU government utterly humiliating itself, with a potential cost of human lives lost0 -
I'm not 100% sure those in Reigate want to be ruled by the County from Reigate.NickPalmer said:
John and I are I believe both members of the tacit Surrey Resistance Front on this. It wasn't handled well by the Surrey leadership, who rushed out proposals to take up the idea before the Government announcement and were then left with egg on their faces when the Government said er, maybe not, or not yet. I'm really not clear whether it's still coming a year or two later.JohnO said:
It's generally accepted that Amanda Milling persuaded Boris to retreat last autumn from a mass move to unitaries (plus preference for elected Mayors), having been confronted by swathes of mutinous Tory District and Borough Councillors.TheScreamingEagles said:
Some places have unitary councils others have district councils and county councils.dixiedean said:How come there are nearly 20000 councillors?
Northumberland manages with 67.
Scaled up that would make fewer than 14 000 in the UK.
But any government which moved us to all unitaries would face a mass rebellion from their council base.
The "Do you really want Waverley to be governed from Reigate?" argument was quite widely shared here, mostly in relation to planning. But I do agree that most people don't get involved in these squabbles.0 -
I would like to propose that we find some suitable land somewhere to plant a new wood as a memorial to the dead. At one tree per dead, at mature broadleaf tree density, it would be about half the size of Richmond Park - I think the scale would get across well the size of the loss.stodge said:I was told next Tuesday is a Day of Remembrance for those lost to the coronavirus in the past year.
This doesn't seem to have been well advertised so far - given there have been 125,000 excess deaths, it's entirely appropriate to take the time, before we concentrate on life, to remember those who won't be there to enjoy it with us.
And then, unlike with something that puts an exact number on the dead, the fuzzy numbers involved would represent the inevitable uncertainty in counting the dead.2 -
LOL, yes...Foxy said:
There's a lot of it about...Malmesbury said:
The "self taught expert on medical matters" thing that was being briefed by his spin doctors the other day was a bit worrying.Leon said:
Someone on Twitter has suggested that Macron is, deep down, an anti-vaxxer.rottenborough said:
So much for the French Enlightenment.Leon said:
It would be nice if one person in the EU, just one, just one single person, came out and said "Sorry for all the deaths we will be causing with our rank stupidity"rottenborough said:
"But experts fear that some damage has already been done."IanB2 said:CNN: In the EU, leaders will now face the question of how to rebuild any trust in the AstraZeneca vaccine that has been lost over the past week. The bloc's rollout of the jab has stumbled from one obstacle to another since it was approved for use in January, with governments scrambling to secure limited supplies of the jab while simultaneously casting doubts over its efficacy and safety.
Italy said it will resume AstraZeneca vaccinations on Friday, and other countries are expected to follow. Milan's largest vaccine center told CNN it would overbook appointments in an attempt to make up for the shortfalls of the past few days. Ireland's Prime Minister had earlier told CNN he hoped his country could "catch up fairly quickly" once the vaccination program resumed.
But experts fear that some damage has already been done. In France, an Elabe poll showed this week that only 22% of the population now trusts the AstraZeneca vaccine. Remi Salomon, a senior French hospitals official, told BFM TV on Thursday that "people are being overly cautious" in the country and that he feared "people will not interpret" the suspensions in "the right way."
"A scare like this has the potential to increase vaccine hesitancy," Michael Head, senior research fellow in Global Health at the University of Southampton in Britain, told CNN earlier in the week. "These vaccines are to protect against a pandemic virus. There is an urgency to the rollout."
No shit.
But they won't. Handelsblatt never apologised over the "8% effective" story.
My opinion of our EU neighbours - by this I mean some of their media and many of their politicians - could not, I fear, go any lower.
Hmm. It seems incredibly unlikely, for an Enarquist technocrat, but it would explain some of his more bizarre statements. And anti vaxxery is extremely widespread in France, even with people who are otherwise highly intelligent and educated
But it is a different issue when a national leader starts rolling his own advice.
The other important bit, is when confronted with actual experts with actual facts, not going all Toby Young....0 -
I just assumed we were letting them use credits from the last time we smashed up each of their capital cities?Leon said:
Shamefully, both New York and New Delhi remain intact.Foxy said:
So much like us...Leon said:
No, 16 regions in total I think. Quite a severe lockdown. No internal travel, etcFlatlander said:
Just Paris? Prepare for the exodus...Leon said:And finally, Macron yields
https://twitter.com/BreakingF24/status/1372613542474514442?s=20
Have we nuked India and the USA yet? Trying to catch up on the news.
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Spitalfields is just outside the city.MattW said:5th.
I find the church quite bombastic. Though peal of bells is one of the best to ring in London, and the acoustic is great.TOPPING said:
Hawksmoor's Spitalfields all day long.MattW said:Do others have a favourite City Church?
Having visited them all I probably go for St Vedast-alias-Foster due to the modest Epstein in the Courtyard and All Hallows on the Wall because the ceiling is like a perfect drawing room.
For Hawksmoor I prefer St Mary Woolnoth, just by the statue of Wotsit Peabody near Bank Station.
St Mary at Hill before the fire was my favourite - amazing furnishings.
St Stephen Walbrook.
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I mentioned yesterday the disaster that Ted Heath created in 1974 from joining Royalist Herefordshire with Parliamentarian Worcestershire.ydoethur said:
Quite.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, and breaking up the counties would be about as popular as syphilis.ydoethur said:
But I can’t imagine that would be possible given the government target of around 300,000 in a UA. You would have to split it into at least four. And it wouldn’t be as easy as taking the largest towns out either as apart from Southampton and Portsmouth, already unitaries, the towns and cities are quite small.Casino_Royale said:I'm not attached to the districts, but I am to the counties.
I'd only support it if, say, Hampshire County Council became the unitary.
Remember what happened to Ted Heath. Some of these counties have been around as long as England, if not longer.
Staffordshire has a similar problem. The only way it could be done is by taking Stafford and Newcastle out as one county, and having the most horrendous, bizarre, convoluted sprawl left based on one of Lichfield or Burton.
Well, that would not be terribly popular.
Edit - or indeed splitting Tamworth, Burton and the Moorlands into one county, and Lichfield, Cannock and Codsall into another. But separating Tamworth and Lichfield would turn two very safe Tory seats into two very safe other seats.1 -
There was hardly universal delight with the new counties of Wales either.Mexicanpete said:
I mentioned yesterday the disaster that Ted Heath created in 1974 from joining Royalist Herefordshire with Parliamentarian Worcestershire.ydoethur said:
Quite.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, and breaking up the counties would be about as popular as syphilis.ydoethur said:
But I can’t imagine that would be possible given the government target of around 300,000 in a UA. You would have to split it into at least four. And it wouldn’t be as easy as taking the largest towns out either as apart from Southampton and Portsmouth, already unitaries, the towns and cities are quite small.Casino_Royale said:I'm not attached to the districts, but I am to the counties.
I'd only support it if, say, Hampshire County Council became the unitary.
Remember what happened to Ted Heath. Some of these counties have been around as long as England, if not longer.
Staffordshire has a similar problem. The only way it could be done is by taking Stafford and Newcastle out as one county, and having the most horrendous, bizarre, convoluted sprawl left based on one of Lichfield or Burton.
Well, that would not be terribly popular.
Edit - or indeed splitting Tamworth, Burton and the Moorlands into one county, and Lichfield, Cannock and Codsall into another. But separating Tamworth and Lichfield would turn two very safe Tory seats into two very safe other seats.1 -
Potentially you end up giving the Portsmouth surrounds (Gosport, Fareham, Havant) to Portsmouth (which is then oversized rather than undersized); or create their own Unitary - 'Portsmouth Outer', but neither is a great option and it works even less well for the Southampton surrounds.ydoethur said:
But I can’t imagine that would be possible given the government target of around 300,000 in a UA. You would have to split it into at least four. And it wouldn’t be as easy as taking the largest towns out either as apart from Southampton and Portsmouth, already unitaries, the towns and cities are quite small.Casino_Royale said:I'm not attached to the districts, but I am to the counties.
I'd only support it if, say, Hampshire County Council became the unitary.1 -
Benny Hill too. Apparently all the 'pleasing Uncle Benny' the assorted glamorous assistants did was just the odd handjob.Leon said:
A lot of big womanisers have been famously brief and unsatisfying in bed.TheScreamingEagles said:From another PB, sorry not sorry.
As a man who has clearly put in his 10,000 hours – working with a wide range of partners and producing an indeterminate number of offspring as a result – you'd expect Boris Johnson to be an expert shag. Not the case according to friends of his private technology tutor, Jennifer Arcuri.
Her experience? Over in seconds and "like having sex with a boulder".
JFK and Clinton immediately come to mind. It's all about the conquest, not the pleasure. An alpha male thing, perhaps.0 -
Novavax, Moderna, Pfizer. The SII in India have said they WILL give us the other 5m AZ in about 4 weeks.Black_Rook said:On the vaccine slowdown:
There are about 53 million adults in the UK. If we assume that, to get out of the shit, we need to jab everyone once plus all the vulnerable groups for a second time, that gets us up to 85 million vaccinations.
As of tonight, 27.6m doses have been administered. Let us be optimistic and assume that we get up to 35m by the end of the month, due to the brief uplift in supply. That leaves 50m to go.
How long will that take if supply from abroad goes to shit, as looks increasingly likely? IIRC, domestic production is about 2m AZ per week and that assumes nothing else goes wrong (bad batches, low yields, vials running out and everything else.) It could be a long, long wait.
AZ production in the UK is a lot more than you say, I believe - and will improve
You are being unduly pessimistic. We've had bad news, but remember we have now done 27.6 MILLION injections; 580,000 - 1% of the adult population - were done just today0 -
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I have relatively recently moved to North Yorkshire. Reading the local press I realised there is a plan to re-organise local government here. There will be a North Yorkshire Combined Authority with a Mayor. But then there are two plans for unitaries for the county which seems to largely be different proposals from the Conservatives who are the main party in the county.
The county council want North Yorkshire county council area to be one unitary with the City of York staying as the other unitary. A majority, although not all of the district/borough councils disagree and have proposed an West/East split. Not sure on the proposed names but the Western unitary would include Craven, Richmondshire, Hambleton and Harrogate BC. The Eastern Unitary, York, Scarborough, Selby and Ryedale.
Local elections to the district councils have, I believe, been suspended in some areas as a decision is made on which proposal to take forward. I believe the Local Government SoS makes the decision with consultations currently ongoing.0 -
Whoof.malcolmg said:EXCLUSIVE: First Minister Nicola Sturgeon misled Parliament, concludes Holyrood harassment committee @SkyNews
Bet she will try to brass neck it and say it is not a resigning matter just an oversight due to her faulty memory
If that’s the unanimous conclusion of a committee with an SNP majority she is surely toast.
But let’s see the details. If it’s a minority report she will probably survive.1 -
WHOAHHHHHHHTheScreamingEagles said:1 -
Which do you prefer? The former is the preference of my Yorkshire friends. Reflects how the North East *should* work with Northumberland CC and then a "Greater Newcastle" CA.James_M said:I have relatively recently moved to North Yorkshire. Reading the local press I realised there is a plan to re-organise local government here. There will be a North Yorkshire Combined Authority with a Mayor. But then there are two plans for unitaries for the county which seems to largely be different proposals from the Conservatives who are the main party in the county.
The county council want North Yorkshire county council area to be one unitary with the City of York staying as the other unitary. A majority, although not all of the district/borough councils disagree and have proposed an West/East split. Not sure on the proposed names but the Western unitary would include Craven, Richmondshire, Hambleton and Harrogate BC. The Eastern Unitary, York, Scarborough, Selby and Ryedale.
Local elections to the district councils have, I believe, been suspended in some areas as a decision is made on which proposal to take forward. I believe the Local Government SoS makes the decision with consultations currently ongoing.0 -
Well, that’s Sturgeons credibility all but destroyed.Leon said:
WHOAHHHHHHHTheScreamingEagles said:
Must have been pretty conclusive1 -
Situation, Normal...in Edinburgh.
https://twitter.com/jamesmatthewsky/status/1372623487995670532
SNPFU.1 -
Is that 4 hours notice to leave Paris or 28 hours notice.Flatlander said:
Just Paris? Prepare for the exodus...Leon said:And finally, Macron yields
https://twitter.com/BreakingF24/status/1372613542474514442?s=20
Either way a lot of people may suddenly need to check their summer residence0 -
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Since when did Malcolm have any love for Sturgeon? He wants independence, he isn’t struck on the SNP per se.Casino_Royale said:0 -
That committee is majority pro-indy. If they have concluded she misled Holyrood, can she really stick around?1
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The issue is that it will be too big if the county is one authority. Getting from one end of the county to the other would take 3+ hoursGallowgate said:
Which do you prefer? The former is the preference of my Yorkshire friends. Reflects how the North East *should* work with Northumberland CC and then a "Greater Newcastle" CA.James_M said:I have relatively recently moved to North Yorkshire. Reading the local press I realised there is a plan to re-organise local government here. There will be a North Yorkshire Combined Authority with a Mayor. But then there are two plans for unitaries for the county which seems to largely be different proposals from the Conservatives who are the main party in the county.
The county council want North Yorkshire county council area to be one unitary with the City of York staying as the other unitary. A majority, although not all of the district/borough councils disagree and have proposed an West/East split. Not sure on the proposed names but the Western unitary would include Craven, Richmondshire, Hambleton and Harrogate BC. The Eastern Unitary, York, Scarborough, Selby and Ryedale.
Local elections to the district councils have, I believe, been suspended in some areas as a decision is made on which proposal to take forward. I believe the Local Government SoS makes the decision with consultations currently ongoing.0 -
I would imagine that they've decided that any other conclusion would bring more ignominy on the Scottish Government than saying she did, as well as provoke a wholesale walkout by the non-SNP members. I would still imagine it's fairly mild and contains some get outs.ydoethur said:
Whoof.malcolmg said:EXCLUSIVE: First Minister Nicola Sturgeon misled Parliament, concludes Holyrood harassment committee @SkyNews
Bet she will try to brass neck it and say it is not a resigning matter just an oversight due to her faulty memory
If that’s the unanimous conclusion of a committee with an SNP majority she is surely toast.
But let’s see the details. If it’s a minority report she will probably survive.
Still it is undoubtedly GOOD NEWS.0 -
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Get that dog out of here!ydoethur said:
Whoof.malcolmg said:EXCLUSIVE: First Minister Nicola Sturgeon misled Parliament, concludes Holyrood harassment committee @SkyNews
Bet she will try to brass neck it and say it is not a resigning matter just an oversight due to her faulty memory
If that’s the unanimous conclusion of a committee with an SNP majority she is surely toast.
But let’s see the details. If it’s a minority report she will probably survive.
(The 'whoof" not Nippy).0 -
We have done 27.6 million injections - but it's taken about three months.Leon said:
Novavax, Moderna, Pfizer. The SII in India have said they WILL give us the other 5m AZ in about 4 weeks.Black_Rook said:On the vaccine slowdown:
There are about 53 million adults in the UK. If we assume that, to get out of the shit, we need to jab everyone once plus all the vulnerable groups for a second time, that gets us up to 85 million vaccinations.
As of tonight, 27.6m doses have been administered. Let us be optimistic and assume that we get up to 35m by the end of the month, due to the brief uplift in supply. That leaves 50m to go.
How long will that take if supply from abroad goes to shit, as looks increasingly likely? IIRC, domestic production is about 2m AZ per week and that assumes nothing else goes wrong (bad batches, low yields, vials running out and everything else.) It could be a long, long wait.
AZ production in the UK is a lot more than you say, I believe - and will improve
You are being unduly pessimistic. We've had bad news, but remember we have now done 27.6 MILLION injections; 580,000 - 1% of the adult population - were done just today
If we want to do the remaining 70+ million injections by the end of July (so we can then start on the autumn boosters) we have to increase the rate very significantly. Instead of 10 million per month we need close to 20 million.
It's a big challenge.0 -
I see Labours chosen massive Remain ex MP for one of the most Brexity seats
Interesting to see what happens
Ev money the pair on Betfair Exchange0 -
It doesn't look increasingly likely.Black_Rook said:On the vaccine slowdown:
There are about 53 million adults in the UK. If we assume that, to get out of the shit, we need to jab everyone once plus all the vulnerable groups for a second time, that gets us up to 85 million vaccinations.
As of tonight, 27.6m doses have been administered. Let us be optimistic and assume that we get up to 35m by the end of the month, due to the brief uplift in supply. That leaves 50m to go.
How long will that take if supply from abroad goes to shit, as looks increasingly likely? IIRC, domestic production is about 2m AZ per week and that assumes nothing else goes wrong (bad batches, low yields, vials running out and everything else.) It could be a long, long wait.
We're going to get Moderna, from Switzerland. They've had some delays getting their plant (which is a new one) up and running, but it's going to be producing close to a million doses a day when it's ramped up. And the SII has not ramped quite as quickly in producing AZ as hoped.
The key though, is that only vaccine we currently import from the EU is Pfizer, and while Belgium could block exports to the UK, if it did then the UK would ban the exports of the precursors used to make the vaccine. Plus, Belgium has a large pharmaceutical manufacturing industry and won't be keen to lose that.3 -
Wow! Need the details, but happy to admit I didn't see that one coming. Wonder if Andy Wightman found his spine at last?dr_spyn said:Situation, Normal...in Edinburgh.
https://twitter.com/jamesmatthewsky/status/1372623487995670532
SNPFU.1 -
Did we at least get Old York and Old Delhi?Leon said:
Shamefully, both New York and New Delhi remain intact.Foxy said:
So much like us...Leon said:
No, 16 regions in total I think. Quite a severe lockdown. No internal travel, etcFlatlander said:
Just Paris? Prepare for the exodus...Leon said:And finally, Macron yields
https://twitter.com/BreakingF24/status/1372613542474514442?s=20
Have we nuked India and the USA yet? Trying to catch up on the news.0 -
It is not good news that our politicians are a bunch of crooks and liars.Luckyguy1983 said:
I would imagine that they've decided that any other conclusion would bring more ignominy on the Scottish Government than saying she did, as well as provoke a wholesale walkout by the non-SNP members. I would still imagine it's fairly mild and contains some get outs.ydoethur said:
Whoof.malcolmg said:EXCLUSIVE: First Minister Nicola Sturgeon misled Parliament, concludes Holyrood harassment committee @SkyNews
Bet she will try to brass neck it and say it is not a resigning matter just an oversight due to her faulty memory
If that’s the unanimous conclusion of a committee with an SNP majority she is surely toast.
But let’s see the details. If it’s a minority report she will probably survive.
Still it is undoubtedly GOOD NEWS.
It is moderately good news if the institutions are willing to hold them to account for it despite threats, obstruction and intimidation.1 -
As an aside, when I got my vaccine at the LA Dodgers stadium, the staff were chucking used vials into a big trash bin.
It seems insane, given the worldwide vial shortage, that they binned them rather than recycling them.1 -
So, is Nicola Sturgeon more f-ked than a stepmum on P0rnHub?
(admittedly, not a mental image I'm really looking for)1 -
This is a biggie - make no mistakebigjohnowls said:
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Worth noting: if Sturgeon goes that isn't necessarily bad for the SNP in May.
Remember John Smith for Blair?1 -
Remain/Leave is actually over.bigjohnowls said:I see Labours chosen massive Remain ex MP for one of the most Brexity seats
Interesting to see what happens
Ev money the pair on Betfair Exchange
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Blimey BigG.is there no news from which you don't demand the defenestration of an opponent of this Government? It was Khan at the weekend, UVDL earlier today and now Nippy.Big_G_NorthWales said:
This is a biggie - make no mistakebigjohnowls said:
Scotland has just entered uncharted territory0 -
And pro the UK being part of the EU vaccine procurement scheme so discreditedbigjohnowls said:I see Labours chosen massive Remain ex MP for one of the most Brexity seats
Interesting to see what happens
Ev money the pair on Betfair Exchange0 -
I don’t see an accusation of perjury being equivalent to a popular if slippery figure having a tragic heart attack.Casino_Royale said:Worth noting: if Sturgeon goes that isn't necessarily bad for the SNP in May.
Remember John Smith for Blair?1 -
I believe that I'm right on domestic AZ production but stand to be corrected if someone has recent numbers to hand. The Novavax facility on Teesside wasn't due to begin delivery until the second half of the year and that'll probably start out as a piss dribble even if it isn't delayed outright. Everything else comes from abroad so we can't rely on any of it.Leon said:
Novavax, Moderna, Pfizer. The SII in India have said they WILL give us the other 5m AZ in about 4 weeks.Black_Rook said:On the vaccine slowdown:
There are about 53 million adults in the UK. If we assume that, to get out of the shit, we need to jab everyone once plus all the vulnerable groups for a second time, that gets us up to 85 million vaccinations.
As of tonight, 27.6m doses have been administered. Let us be optimistic and assume that we get up to 35m by the end of the month, due to the brief uplift in supply. That leaves 50m to go.
How long will that take if supply from abroad goes to shit, as looks increasingly likely? IIRC, domestic production is about 2m AZ per week and that assumes nothing else goes wrong (bad batches, low yields, vials running out and everything else.) It could be a long, long wait.
AZ production in the UK is a lot more than you say, I believe - and will improve
You are being unduly pessimistic. We've had bad news, but remember we have now done 27.6 MILLION injections; 580,000 - 1% of the adult population - were done just today
Of course, everything may go wonderfully after April and the Government might be proven right on all its remaining milestones and targets, but from hereon in I won't believe any of it at all until it actually happens. Promises mean nothing.0 -
It's now bad either way for the SNP.Casino_Royale said:Worth noting: if Sturgeon goes that isn't necessarily bad for the SNP in May.
Remember John Smith for Blair?
If she stays, that looks extremely awkward, and it will dog her through the campaign; the SNP must surely lose votes. Maybe not many, but enough to nix a majority.
If she goes, that looks just as bad, if not worse. Proven corruption, a scene of chaos, and she's their best politician, albeit now severely tarnished. Who can replace her?
My guess is she will try and tough it out but it will cause collateral damage for her party0 -
We will see if thats true on 6.5.21 in HartlepoolOmnium said:
Remain/Leave is actually over.bigjohnowls said:I see Labours chosen massive Remain ex MP for one of the most Brexity seats
Interesting to see what happens
Ev money the pair on Betfair Exchange
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