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  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Uruguay collapsing like the Carthaginians at Zama

    I think you'd make an excellent football commentator. ;-)
  • ToryJim
    ToryJim Posts: 4,193
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Uruguay collapsing like the Carthaginians at Zama

    Don't jinx things
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Doubled my money on two cash out bets during this match: on Uruguay winning and a 2-1 scoreline. The amounts involved were puny though.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    RobD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Uruguay collapsing like the Carthaginians at Zama

    I think you'd make an excellent football commentator. ;-)
    I'd get into trouble, I'd make the inevitable Dockside Hooker analogy.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Oh and he went down easier than a cheap hooker.
  • MikeSmithson
    MikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Oh the excitement as we wait for tonight's YouGov
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    edited June 2014
    Good evening, everyone.

    Mr. Eagles, are you suggesting that Uruguay are being treated by England in a similar manner to the way in which the King of Bithynia treated Caesar?

    FPT: Mr. Socrates, if he'd gone west, having survived in Babylon, he would have crushed Rome. By strange coincidence, an uncle (I think) of Pyrrhus (himself Alexander's cousin) called Alexander headed west before his namesake went east. Epirot Alexander sadly enjoyed no more success than Pyrrhus.

    Mr. Flightpath, in a recent episode of Farscape the Peacekeeper grunts had similar problems.

    Edited extra bit: cheers to Mr. Hayfield for his regular piece.
  • Alanbrooke
    Alanbrooke Posts: 25,926
    MikeSmithson said:

    Oh the excitement as we wait for tonight's YouGov

    LOL beats football
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    BUGGER AND DAMNIT
  • ToryJim
    ToryJim Posts: 4,193
    Feck
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    arghhh
  • antifrank1
    antifrank1 Posts: 81
    Oh dear.
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    Gerrard gives it away to Suarez - goal.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    England collapsing like the Carthiginians at Zama.
  • Tykejohnno
    Tykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Englands defence is pathetic.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Luis Suarez is the greatest player in the world.

    He's playing with one fecking knee.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    I thought I'd seen enough Gerrard assists for Suarez for one season
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    Another Liverpool player joins in - for Uruguay.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    We're not automatically out if we lose.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Football Funnys ‏@FootballFunnys 17s

    BREAKING: Luis Suarez has been handed a 10 match ban by the FA.
  • ToryJim
    ToryJim Posts: 4,193
    AndyJS said:

    We're not automatically out if we lose.

    I think near as
  • Morris_Dancer
    Morris_Dancer Posts: 62,742
    F1: practice at 9am and 1pm tomorrow.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Costa Rica are more likely to progress.

    Not sure that we can beat CR.
    AndyJS said:

    We're not automatically out if we lose.

  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    book the tickets back...
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Yeah we'd have to rely on goal difference to progress now.
  • MarkHopkins
    MarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    England as good as World Champions.
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Is the UK the only nation state which doesn't have a single football team?
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    In preparation, let me just say viva italia!!
  • ToryJim
    ToryJim Posts: 4,193
    AndyJS said:

    Is the UK the only nation state which doesn't have a single football team?

    Would it make much difference?

  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    AndyJS said:

    Is the UK the only nation state which doesn't have a single football team?

    According to wikipedia the following do not have an international team:

    Federated States of Micronesia
    Monaco
    Nauru
    Palau
    United Kingdom
    Vatican City
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · now

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead remains four points: CON 33%, LAB 37%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%
  • Alanbrooke
    Alanbrooke Posts: 25,926
    ToryJim said:

    AndyJS said:

    Is the UK the only nation state which doesn't have a single football team?

    Would it make much difference?

    bale not Rooney

    george Best v Pele
  • Socrates
    Socrates Posts: 10,322
    What a disappointment. If there's one hope that will come out of this terrible World Cup performance, it's that it'll be a shock to the system. The FA are an incompetent inept organisation that have failed to properly develop English talent for decades. It's about time the government stepped in, broke up the old boys' club and put in professional management. Then we might finally get the national youth development fitting for a football league of premiership quality.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Suarez is different gravy
  • AveryLP
    AveryLP Posts: 7,815
    ToryJim said:

    AndyJS said:

    Is the UK the only nation state which doesn't have a single football team?

    Would it make much difference?

    Our performance would just become baleful.
  • Tykejohnno
    Tykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    That England defence is just not good enough,if hodgson had anything about him,he would have got John Terry to play again and picked Ashley cole against the poor baines.
  • ToryJim
    ToryJim Posts: 4,193
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · now

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead remains four points: CON 33%, LAB 37%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%

    Meh
  • FrankBooth
    FrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    Come on the Azzurri! A 2 or 3 goal victory against Costa Ricaand it's on for England to go through. Biggest problem is that whilst England need Italy to win 2 games, the Italians don't need to themselves.
  • Scrapheap_as_was
    Scrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Nul points
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    I told you to back Uruguay, and for Suarez to score more goals than England in this tournament.
  • MonikerDiCanio
    MonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    Suarez is better than Messi or Ronaldo. It was an honour for England to lose to him.
  • Smarmeron
    Smarmeron Posts: 5,099
    Odds for a draw Italy v Uruguay ?
  • AndyJS
    AndyJS Posts: 29,395
    I suppose it's a sign of our more relaxed attitude to things that we don't have a single UK team. Most other countries would insist on it: Spain, for example.
  • Socrates
    Socrates Posts: 10,322
    Tykejohnno said:

    That England defence is just not good enough,if hodgson had anything about him,he would have got John Terry to play again and picked Ashley cole against the poor baines.

    We were never going to get far this World Cup, it makes sense to play younger players rather than 33 year olds to help develop them for future tournaments.

    This isn't Hodgson's fault. It's the FAs for years and years and of poor youth development. We have the second best football league in the world, yet our players coming through are worthy of being about 15th.
  • Socrates
    Socrates Posts: 10,322
    edited June 2014
    AndyJS said:

    I suppose it's a sign of our more relaxed attitude to things that we don't have a single UK team. Most other countries would insist on it: Spain, for example.

    No, it's because we get four seats out of five at IFAB. We'd lose three if we played a single team.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    England are 150-1 to win the world cup on Betfair. We should be 1000.
  • Financier
    Financier Posts: 3,916
    what else should we expect from overpaid primadonnas - lead by a man who neither inspires nor leads.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/england-v-uruguay-world-cup-7292093

    Mark Lawrenson - Does he bet on football ?
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    I put £2 on Uruguay to win the cup at 100:1 yesterday, hope Suarez's knee is sound.
    Pulpstar said:

    England are 150-1 to win the world cup on Betfair. We should be 1000.

  • Smarmeron
    Smarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Financier

    That's not fair, Cammy is doing his best with what he has.....oh, you meant the football?
  • Flightpath
    Flightpath Posts: 4,012
    Tykejohnno said:

    That England defence is just not good enough,if hodgson had anything about him,he would have got John Terry to play again and picked Ashley cole against the poor baines.

    I don't see how you blame Baines for the poor play by our central defenders. Gerrard sadly gave no lift - just the opposite.
  • Tykejohnno
    Tykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Socrates said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    That England defence is just not good enough,if hodgson had anything about him,he would have got John Terry to play again and picked Ashley cole against the poor baines.

    We were never going to get far this World Cup, it makes sense to play younger players rather than 33 year olds to help develop them for future tournaments.

    This isn't Hodgson's fault. It's the FAs for years and years and of poor youth development. We have the second best football league in the world, yet our players coming through are worthy of being about 15th.
    Bollocks,we keep saying we will do something in the future,it is hodgson fault in this world cup,he picked a poor England defenders and his tactics in the first game against Italy which put baines/rooney on the left together caused the Italy goals.

  • Financier
    Financier Posts: 3,916
    you think I am talking about football?
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Socrates said:

    AndyJS said:

    I suppose it's a sign of our more relaxed attitude to things that we don't have a single UK team. Most other countries would insist on it: Spain, for example.

    No, it's because we get four seats out of five at IFAB. We'd lose three if we played a single team.
    The IFAB doesn't govern FIFA. FIFA do have representatives on the IFAB though.
  • dr_spyn
    dr_spyn Posts: 11,312
    Did Gordon Brown wish England luck?
  • Smarmeron
    Smarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Financier
    Both?
  • FrankBooth
    FrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · now

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead remains four points: CON 33%, LAB 37%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%

    About as surprising as England's world cup results. I have some sympathy this time for England. They were okay against Italy and not THAT bad tonight. Uruguay took their chances. I hope also those people who slated Liverpool fans for being tough on Hodgson now have some idea why that was.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Hodgson definitely looks like an owl...
  • Socrates
    Socrates Posts: 10,322
    Tykejohnno said:

    Socrates said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    That England defence is just not good enough,if hodgson had anything about him,he would have got John Terry to play again and picked Ashley cole against the poor baines.

    We were never going to get far this World Cup, it makes sense to play younger players rather than 33 year olds to help develop them for future tournaments.

    This isn't Hodgson's fault. It's the FAs for years and years and of poor youth development. We have the second best football league in the world, yet our players coming through are worthy of being about 15th.
    Bollocks,we keep saying we will do something in the future,it is hodgson fault in this world cup,he picked a poor England defenders and his tactics in the first game against Italy which put baines/rooney on the left together caused the Italy goals.

    Oh right, because a couple aging defenders and Danny Welbeck on the left would see us surging to the semi-finals? Of course we keep saying we'll do something in the future, but the problem is we never do, because we never sort out the joke of an organisation that is the FA.
  • dugarbandier
    dugarbandier Posts: 2,596
    SeanT said:

    Gentlemen in England now a-pub shall think themselves accurs'd that they bothered to watch that shyte.

    those of us in the orient who arose afore the dawn...

  • MarkHopkins
    MarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    Clearly England were distracted waiting for their free Owls.
  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    Two mediocre sides, one world class player.

    England have been crap for years. At least Hodgson tried to get them playing. Does anyone really care? Club football is what stirs the passions here these days. We all gave up on the national team a long time ago.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Stefan de Vries ‏@stefandevries

    Another argument for #Brexit: Number of World Cup Titles #England won since UK joined the #EU #WorldCup2014
  • Socrates
    Socrates Posts: 10,322
    SouthamObserver said:

    Two mediocre sides, one world class player.

    England have been crap for years. At least Hodgson tried to get them playing. Does anyone really care? Club football is what stirs the passions here these days. We all gave up on the national team a long time ago.

    Of course we care. Some of us are patriots that always want our countrymen to win regardless of the sport. And football is our national sport.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    dr_spyn said:

    Did Gordon Brown wish England luck?

    @GuidoFawkes: Steven Gerrard was DOOMED http://t.co/9nV72uqrWd http://t.co/2H518t1WSt
  • Tykejohnno
    Tykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Flightpath said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    That England defence is just not good enough,if hodgson had anything about him,he would have got John Terry to play again and picked Ashley cole against the poor baines.

    I don't see how you blame Baines for the poor play by our central defenders. Gerrard sadly gave no lift - just the opposite.
    Baines did play a little bit better tonight,especially in second half but you can blame baines against Italy.

    And yes,Gerrard has had a poor world cup.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    SouthamObserver said:

    Two mediocre sides, one world class player.

    England have been crap for years. At least Hodgson tried to get them playing. Does anyone really care? Club football is what stirs the passions here these days. We all gave up on the national team a long time ago.

    And seemingly 90% of the country supports one of six teams.
  • dugarbandier
    dugarbandier Posts: 2,596
    should have taken shawcross, for a start
  • Socrates
    Socrates Posts: 10,322
    SeanT said:

    FrankBooth said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · now

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead remains four points: CON 33%, LAB 37%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%

    About as surprising as England's world cup results. I have some sympathy this time for England. They were okay against Italy and not THAT bad tonight. Uruguay took their chances. I hope also those people who slated Liverpool fans for being tough on Hodgson now have some idea why that was.
    FrankBooth said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · now

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead remains four points: CON 33%, LAB 37%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%

    About as surprising as England's world cup results. I have some sympathy this time for England. They were okay against Italy and not THAT bad tonight. Uruguay took their chances. I hope also those people who slated Liverpool fans for being tough on Hodgson now have some idea why that was.
    Defeat is defeat is defeat. Total clear out and total rethink is needed. This is the worst England team for 20 years, or more.
    The 1994 team was worse, but entirely because of Graham Taylor. But before that, you'd have to go back to the 70s.
  • Scrapheap_as_was
    Scrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    England + spurs, which has the worst defence?
  • MrJones
    MrJones Posts: 3,523
    England aren't a top 8 team. They're top 16 but not top 8. Which is kind of the worst bracket to be in really.

    Be interesting to see if this changes the indyref polling.
  • FrankBooth
    FrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    Socrates said:

    SeanT said:

    FrankBooth said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · now

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead remains four points: CON 33%, LAB 37%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%

    About as surprising as England's world cup results. I have some sympathy this time for England. They were okay against Italy and not THAT bad tonight. Uruguay took their chances. I hope also those people who slated Liverpool fans for being tough on Hodgson now have some idea why that was.
    FrankBooth said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · now

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead remains four points: CON 33%, LAB 37%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%

    About as surprising as England's world cup results. I have some sympathy this time for England. They were okay against Italy and not THAT bad tonight. Uruguay took their chances. I hope also those people who slated Liverpool fans for being tough on Hodgson now have some idea why that was.
    Defeat is defeat is defeat. Total clear out and total rethink is needed. This is the worst England team for 20 years, or more.
    The 1994 team was worse, but entirely because of Graham Taylor. But before that, you'd have to go back to the 70s.
    There were some very average players for England at that point but I'm not sure Taylor had much choice.
  • Jonathan
    Jonathan Posts: 22,107
    dr_spyn said:

    Did Gordon Brown wish England luck?

    Not sure you can blame Gordon, The Coalition has been an albatross for English football.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @bootifulgame: Gazza has just turned up at the England hotel with a fishing rod, a can of lager and a KFC
  • Scrapheap_as_was
    Scrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Too much time practising pens? Not stopping punts from a keeper or short corners
  • Easterross
    Easterross Posts: 1,915
    Evening all and at least if England lost Liverpool won. Gerrard made Suarez's 2nd goal beautifully. Pity for England they weren't officially playing for the same team tonight. You English chaps are getting to feel what it is like to be Scottish. We know our football team is shite before they take part in competitions.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Both the 1990 and 1998 teams were quite good though.
    Socrates said:

    SeanT said:

    FrankBooth said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · now

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead remains four points: CON 33%, LAB 37%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%

    About as surprising as England's world cup results. I have some sympathy this time for England. They were okay against Italy and not THAT bad tonight. Uruguay took their chances. I hope also those people who slated Liverpool fans for being tough on Hodgson now have some idea why that was.
    FrankBooth said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · now

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead remains four points: CON 33%, LAB 37%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%

    About as surprising as England's world cup results. I have some sympathy this time for England. They were okay against Italy and not THAT bad tonight. Uruguay took their chances. I hope also those people who slated Liverpool fans for being tough on Hodgson now have some idea why that was.
    Defeat is defeat is defeat. Total clear out and total rethink is needed. This is the worst England team for 20 years, or more.
    The 1994 team was worse, but entirely because of Graham Taylor. But before that, you'd have to go back to the 70s.
  • MikeK
    MikeK Posts: 9,053
    OK! We lost! A not unexpected outcome, with a manager who has the charisma of a buttered muffin.

    So come on a UKIP inspired trip and forget your troubles and woes.
    http://www.ukipdaily.com/ukip-london-region-trip-strasbourg-parliament/#.U6NSeZRdWoc
  • dugarbandier
    dugarbandier Posts: 2,596
    MrJones said:

    England aren't a top 8 team. They're top 16 but not top 8. Which is kind of the worst bracket to be in really.

    Be interesting to see if this changes the indyref polling.

    would think the collecting media wailing and gnashing of teeth with send a few yeswards. now kids will have a choice of uruguay or argentina shirts for future tournaments
  • Tykejohnno
    Tykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Socrates said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Socrates said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    That England defence is just not good enough,if hodgson had anything about him,he would have got John Terry to play again and picked Ashley cole against the poor baines.

    We were never going to get far this World Cup, it makes sense to play younger players rather than 33 year olds to help develop them for future tournaments.

    This isn't Hodgson's fault. It's the FAs for years and years and of poor youth development. We have the second best football league in the world, yet our players coming through are worthy of being about 15th.
    Bollocks,we keep saying we will do something in the future,it is hodgson fault in this world cup,he picked a poor England defenders and his tactics in the first game against Italy which put baines/rooney on the left together caused the Italy goals.

    Oh right, because a couple aging defenders and Danny Welbeck on the left would see us surging to the semi-finals? Of course we keep saying we'll do something in the future, but the problem is we never do, because we never sort out the joke of an organisation that is the FA.
    First thing,hodgson again at fault playing even welbeck in the England team never mind on the left (Thanks for pointing that out) and if Terry/cole played in the first two games,I would bet that England wouldn't have lost both games and giving us a chance of Qualification from group.



  • SouthamObserver
    SouthamObserver Posts: 40,054
    Socrates said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Two mediocre sides, one world class player.

    England have been crap for years. At least Hodgson tried to get them playing. Does anyone really care? Club football is what stirs the passions here these days. We all gave up on the national team a long time ago.

    Of course we care. Some of us are patriots that always want our countrymen to win regardless of the sport. And football is our national sport.

    Everyone wanted England to win. But I doubt many people are that bothered by losing. Most expected what has happened. We're not very good. Blame the clubs, not the FA. It's the clubs that do the vast majority of the coaching and which trawl the world for talent rather than focusing on home grown. And that happens because supporters care more about their clubs. If they put country first they would not accept what the clubs do.

  • ToryJim
    ToryJim Posts: 4,193
    edited June 2014
    I wonder if the English players are being crowded out of the premiership. It's great that we have the most followed league in the works but to the casual observer it seems as if there are tons of foreign players in out league but our players don't really seem to go abroad too often.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @NateSilver538: Cheer up, England! You still have a 4% chance of advancing. http://t.co/5LRdMRlzTz
  • Financier
    Financier Posts: 3,916
    Smarmeron said:

    @Financier
    Both?

    Actually, there are a lot of similarities between EdM and Hodgson and the England team and Labour MPs - a mix of has-beens and those wet behind their ears - both looking for a real leader.

  • Tykejohnno
    Tykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    England manager Roy Hodgson: "I don't think anyone let me down, the team down, or the country down.

    "We conceded two goals, but didn't concede many other chances at all. I thought we had a lot more possession but they stood firm and we couldn't score."

    The man is deluded.
  • JackW
    JackW Posts: 14,787
    @MikeL

    FPT. Apologies. 10th June
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    Tonight YG LAB 347 CON 259 LD 18 Other 26 (UKPR)

    Ed is crap is PM Less than 47 weeks to go
  • MonikerDiCanio
    MonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    SouthamObserver said:

    Socrates said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Two mediocre sides, one world class player.

    England have been crap for years. At least Hodgson tried to get them playing. Does anyone really care? Club football is what stirs the passions here these days. We all gave up on the national team a long time ago.

    Of course we care. Some of us are patriots that always want our countrymen to win regardless of the sport. And football is our national sport.

    Everyone wanted England to win. But I doubt many people are that bothered by losing. Most expected what has happened. We're not very good. Blame the clubs, not the FA. It's the clubs that do the vast majority of the coaching and which trawl the world for talent rather than focusing on home grown. And that happens because supporters care more about their clubs. If they put country first they would not accept what the clubs do.

    What's notable is that the World Cup still sorts the wheat from the chaff. Great players like Suarez, Robben, Van Persie, and Pirlo exalt in its intensity.
  • Easterross
    Easterross Posts: 1,915
    ToryJim said:

    I wonder if the English players are being crowded out of the premiership. It's great that we have the most followed league in the works but to the casual observer it seems as if there are tons of foreign players in out league but our players don't really seem to go abroad too often.

    The problem your countrymen face is that while the English Premiership is widely regarded as the best domestic league in the world, the reason it is so is because most of its stars like Suarez are not English but foreigners, drawn by the obscene wage levels paid.

    The other night I heard some of the commentators starting the usual crap about English players being expected to play too many league matches etc always forgetting that most of the players in the leading teams at the World Cup e.g. RVP happen to play in precisely the same league matches.
  • Hertsmere_Pubgoer
    Hertsmere_Pubgoer Posts: 3,476
    foxinsoxuk said:

    Both the 1990 and 1998 teams were quite good though.

    Socrates said:

    SeanT said:

    FrankBooth said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · now

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead remains four points: CON 33%, LAB 37%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%

    About as surprising as England's world cup results. I have some sympathy this time for England. They were okay against Italy and not THAT bad tonight. Uruguay took their chances. I hope also those people who slated Liverpool fans for being tough on Hodgson now have some idea why that was.
    FrankBooth said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · now

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead remains four points: CON 33%, LAB 37%, LD 8%, UKIP 15%

    About as surprising as England's world cup results. I have some sympathy this time for England. They were okay against Italy and not THAT bad tonight. Uruguay took their chances. I hope also those people who slated Liverpool fans for being tough on Hodgson now have some idea why that was.
    Defeat is defeat is defeat. Total clear out and total rethink is needed. This is the worst England team for 20 years, or more.
    The 1994 team was worse, but entirely because of Graham Taylor. But before that, you'd have to go back to the 70s.
    The 86 team weren't bad either
  • peter_from_putney
    peter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    As Jim Bowen would say ..... it's your bus fare home.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    @shewolfmanc: We lost to Uruguay. We didn't get our owls. What a shit day.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,608
    Scott_P said:

    @shewolfmanc: We lost to Uruguay. We didn't get our owls. What a shit day.

    Yes, today has been a day of many disappointments.
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    LOL England lose another football game and its those filthy foreigners in premier league to blame in the mind of the morons
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Wayne Rooney is refusing to write off England's chances in the World Cup.

    Mainly because he can't write.
  • Easterross
    Easterross Posts: 1,915
    bigjohnowls said:

    Tonight YG LAB 347 CON 259 LD 18 Other 26 (UKPR)

    Ed is crap is PM Less than 47 weeks to go

    If you want to grasp at YouGov polls and believe Ed will win, good luck. He is competing with Michael Foot to be the least successful Labour leader of the past 4 decades.
  • TheScreamingEagles
    TheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,806
    Richard Negus ‏@TrooperSnooks 4m

    Its about time we had a GB football team. We'd get Gareth Bale and really piss off the SNP. Double win.
  • bigjohnowls
    bigjohnowls Posts: 22,951
    England only win World Cups under LAB Governments FACT.
  • Scott_P
    Scott_P Posts: 51,453
    bigjohnowls said:

    England only win World Cups under LAB Governments FACT.

    The last 2 World Cups have coincided with Labour leadership changes. You won't get that lucky this time...
  • SquareRoot
    SquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    edited June 2014
    England never had a chance. They(the players) are seriously overpaid(for what they achieve) and the Premier League is stuffed with foreign players. We may have the best league, but we will never get the best team.

    There was a brilliant Rooney joke on Mock the Week.. He will never live that incident down.
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