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  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    edited June 2014
    First? - How's everyone doing with their world cup betting? I'm in profit, still, just about, after first Holland match bet. I've broke even every world cup but I honestly can see that record lasting.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    Please check out the video in link 25, you won't regret it
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    edited June 2014
    JBriskin said:

    First? - How's everyone doing with their world cup betting? I'm in profit, still, just about, after first Holland match bet. I've broke even every world cup but I honestly can see that record lasting.

    Has been a very profitable world cup for me so far and all those other PBers that have followed me in.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    I'm not betting on the World Cup.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Please check out the video in link 25, you won't regret it

    Oh dear me.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    JBriskin said:

    First? - How's everyone doing with their world cup betting? I'm in profit, still, just about, after first Holland match bet. I've broke even every world cup but I honestly can see that record lasting.

    Has been a very profitable world cup for me so far and all those other PBers that have followed me in.
    Well done - Have you got thoughts on Cameroon v Croatia? All I can add is that Cameroon played very very badly in their first match.

  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,785
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Please check out the video in link 25, you won't regret it

    So true!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    JBriskin said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    JBriskin said:

    First? - How's everyone doing with their world cup betting? I'm in profit, still, just about, after first Holland match bet. I've broke even every world cup but I honestly can see that record lasting.

    Has been a very profitable world cup for me so far and all those other PBers that have followed me in.
    Well done - Have you got thoughts on Cameroon v Croatia? All I can add is that Cameroon played very very badly in their first match.

    Backing Cameroon.

    I love Cameron, Italia 90 was my first proper world cup, who can forget them, defeating the Argies, Roger Milla and Francis Oman Biyick's challenge on Claudio Caniggia, that left Mr Caniggia looking for someone with a bollock donor card.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    Are skyscrapers the new arms race?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/travel/36969/the-worlds-tallest-twin-towers-revealed.html
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    I was too tempted by the first!!

    I meant to say-

    I honestly can't see that record lasting.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    edited June 2014
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    JBriskin said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    JBriskin said:

    First? - How's everyone doing with their world cup betting? I'm in profit, still, just about, after first Holland match bet. I've broke even every world cup but I honestly can see that record lasting.

    Has been a very profitable world cup for me so far and all those other PBers that have followed me in.
    Well done - Have you got thoughts on Cameroon v Croatia? All I can add is that Cameroon played very very badly in their first match.

    Backing Cameroon.

    I love Cameron, Italia 90 was my first proper world cup, who can forget them, defeating the Argies, Roger Milla and Francis Oman Biyick's challenge on Claudio Caniggia, that left Mr Caniggia looking for someone with a bollock donor card.
    Yeah, 90 was my first proper world cup as well - I was trying to explain to Ms Briskin about why people liked Cameroon and there was this old guy that scored that everybody liked but I couldn't remember his name - then a couple of hours later there he was on Tv doing his dance and I was - Roger Milla!!!!!

  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Or Miller :)
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    2 nil to Chile.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    Spain are screwed
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,891
    Good evening, everyone.

    Mr. Jim, haven't they always been used as an international pissing contest?

    Only countries with real claims to fame, such as conquering most of the world and giving it its primary language, or being the place where Constantine the Great became emperor, don't need to bother bolstering their ego with such nonsense.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th6ts_O7Jno
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    RE: UKIP group
    A number of UKIP's partners in the 2009 parliament have been courted by the Conservatives, and joined their ECR group.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/17/Cameron-s-Euro-Tories-embrace-party-which-denies-women-are-equal

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/28/Tories-woo-EU-hard-right-and-anti-Muslim-parties-to-block-UKIP

    Which led to the following twitter-tiff:

    Roger Helmer
    ‏@RogerHelmerMEP
    Dan Hannan's eurosceptic credentials have been undermined by his desperate efforts to stop UKIP forming a new EFD group in the EP.

    Daniel Hannan ‏@DanHannanMEP 2h
    Hard as it may be to believe, @RogerHelmerMEP, *it's not always about you*. I'm delighted that ECR is bigger, but I'm sure EFD will survive.

    twitter.com/RogerHelmerMEP/status/479291187321659392

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    Edit it was Benjamin Massing that committed that foul on Caniggia

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeRlJJbtdHc
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    Spain don't look like scoring 3 to be honest, think they're out.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    For Spain, it's Chile Con Carnage (via Paddy Power)
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    For Spain, it's Chile Con Carnage (via Paddy Power)

    It's certainly an inauspicious start for the new King
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    [90 was my first proper world cup as well]

    Since we're on the half time break and have time for clarification - for age reference and life confirmation we used to switch to eurosport when the goals were scored so that we could see the little animated man run across the screen - Bonus Briskin points to anyone that can confirm the same!!!
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    I am still up, though jr has lost his form a bit. Am on Chile to win on this one and looking good.

    Ivory Coast is the best African team but none are much good.
    JBriskin said:

    First? - How's everyone doing with their world cup betting? I'm in profit, still, just about, after first Holland match bet. I've broke even every world cup but I honestly can see that record lasting.

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,397
    So, UKIP has chosen as a partner a party that is a firm believer in Eurobonds.

    Interestingly Eurosceptic.
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    Evening all and it definitely appears the rain in Spain is falling in...... Brazil :) Hope you are all getting the popcorn and beer ready for 11am tomorrow and the unveiling of Michael Ashcroft's marginal poll. Will it be hoopla for the Tories and sword falling time for Clegg or worried Tories and rampant yellow bar charts?
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    ToryJim said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    For Spain, it's Chile Con Carnage (via Paddy Power)

    It's certainly an inauspicious start for the new King
    King Juan Carlos's abdication is not effective until 10:00pm this evening, approx 10 minutes after the match finishes :

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27910104

  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    [Hope you are all getting the popcorn and beer ready for 11am tomorrow]

    It's FMQ day tomorrow Easter - don't mislead our anglo cousins.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    JackW said:

    ToryJim said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    For Spain, it's Chile Con Carnage (via Paddy Power)

    It's certainly an inauspicious start for the new King
    King Juan Carlos's abdication is not effective until 10:00pm this evening, approx 10 minutes after the match finishes :

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27910104

    It's actually 11 as the time quoted is GMT but my point was a bit cheeky ;)
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @LabourList: Ed Miliband offers Hillsborough survivor “sincere” apology over Sun photo http://labli.st/1somdZm

    He is going to be apologising for the next year...
  • mattmatt Posts: 3,789
    anotherDave said:

    RE: UKIP group
    A number of UKIP's partners in the 2009 parliament have been courted by the Conservatives, and joined their ECR group.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/17/Cameron-s-Euro-Tories-embrace-party-which-denies-women-are-equal

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/28/Tories-woo-EU-hard-right-and-anti-Muslim-parties-to-block-UKIP

    Which led to the following twitter-tiff:

    Roger Helmer
    ‏@RogerHelmerMEP
    Dan Hannan's eurosceptic credentials have been undermined by his desperate efforts to stop UKIP forming a new EFD group in the EP.

    Daniel Hannan ‏@DanHannanMEP 2h
    Hard as it may be to believe, @RogerHelmerMEP, *it's not always about you*. I'm delighted that ECR is bigger, but I'm sure EFD will survive.

    twitter.com/RogerHelmerMEP/status/479291187321659392

    I've never looked at Breitbart before. Was everyone on it exiled from the Telegraph for being too odd?
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Scott_P said:

    @LabourList: Ed Miliband offers Hillsborough survivor “sincere” apology over Sun photo http://labli.st/1somdZm

    He is going to be apologising for the next year...

    Just in case some PBers are avoiding Guido, he's still go this rather humourous quote of the day-

    "Harriet Harman tells LBC that Ed ‘was right to pose with the Sun and right to apologise for it afterwards’."

  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    matt said:

    anotherDave said:

    RE: UKIP group
    A number of UKIP's partners in the 2009 parliament have been courted by the Conservatives, and joined their ECR group.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/17/Cameron-s-Euro-Tories-embrace-party-which-denies-women-are-equal

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/28/Tories-woo-EU-hard-right-and-anti-Muslim-parties-to-block-UKIP

    Which led to the following twitter-tiff:

    Roger Helmer
    ‏@RogerHelmerMEP
    Dan Hannan's eurosceptic credentials have been undermined by his desperate efforts to stop UKIP forming a new EFD group in the EP.

    Daniel Hannan ‏@DanHannanMEP 2h
    Hard as it may be to believe, @RogerHelmerMEP, *it's not always about you*. I'm delighted that ECR is bigger, but I'm sure EFD will survive.

    twitter.com/RogerHelmerMEP/status/479291187321659392

    I've never looked at Breitbart before. Was everyone on it exiled from the Telegraph for being too odd?
    Does seem that way, it certainly seems the place for those who prefer ideological purity over practicality.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Main event tomorrow — Lord Ashcroft's poll of Con/LD marginals.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    JBriskin said:

    Scott_P said:

    @LabourList: Ed Miliband offers Hillsborough survivor “sincere” apology over Sun photo http://labli.st/1somdZm

    He is going to be apologising for the next year...

    Just in case some PBers are avoiding Guido, he's still go this rather humourous quote of the day-

    "Harriet Harman tells LBC that Ed ‘was right to pose with the Sun and right to apologise for it afterwards’."

    It's a great example of tying yourself in knots Brisky.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,949
    Something doesn't ring true about current polling.

    Everybody agree's Ed's a complete waste of space and a dud, but will apparently vote for him anyway.

    We're heading for something like a Scottish 2011 election, with a late collapse for Labour!

    Discuss.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,891
    Mr. Briskin, that really is IngSoc... she changed from war with Eastasia to war with Eurasia from one sentence to another.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "Lord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft · 44m

    Please register at http://lordashcroftpolls.com to receive tomorrow the 17000 voter poll of the Tory/LibDem marginal seat battleground."

    https://twitter.com/LordAshcroft
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    GIN1138 said:

    Something doesn't ring true about current polling.

    Everybody agree's Ed's a complete waste of space and a dud, but will apparently vote for him anyway.

    We're heading for something like a Scottish 2011 election, with a late collapse for Labour!

    Discuss.

    Maybe it's the tory brand ?

  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    GIN1138 said:

    Something doesn't ring true about current polling.

    Everybody agree's Ed's a complete waste of space and a dud, but will apparently vote for him anyway.

    We're heading for something like a Scottish 2011 election, with a late collapse for Labour!

    Discuss.

    People are not voting for president, they are voting for parties.
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    JBriskin said:

    [Hope you are all getting the popcorn and beer ready for 11am tomorrow]

    It's FMQ day tomorrow Easter - don't mislead our anglo cousins.

    Scotland's answer to the childrens' playground game "Ecky thump"
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,584
    rcs1000 said:

    So, UKIP has chosen as a partner a party that is a firm believer in Eurobonds.

    Interestingly Eurosceptic.

    Politics make strange bedfellows. Just look at the Tories desperately allying with European parties like the Danish People's Party and the True Finns who they recently considered to be far right nationalists who they attacked UKIP for allying with.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Easterross said:

    JBriskin said:

    [Hope you are all getting the popcorn and beer ready for 11am tomorrow]

    It's FMQ day tomorrow Easter - don't mislead our anglo cousins.

    Scotland's answer to the childrens' playground game "Ecky thump"
    I tend to agree Easter - but the terms been renamed!!!

    http://youtu.be/BLja1dwJtDg
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    GIN1138 said:

    Something doesn't ring true about current polling.

    Everybody agree's Ed's a complete waste of space and a dud, but will apparently vote for him anyway.

    We're heading for something like a Scottish 2011 election, with a late collapse for Labour!

    Discuss.

    It's 1992 all over again. The majority of the pollsters are in for a total rogering
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    Spain just don't look like scoring 1 let alone 3
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Cameroon 5.6
    Croatia 1.76
    Draw 3.9

    http://www.betfair.com/exchange/football/market?id=1.112173734&exp=e
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,538
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    rcs1000 said:

    So, UKIP has chosen as a partner a party that is a firm believer in Eurobonds.

    Interestingly Eurosceptic.

    Politics make strange bedfellows. Just look at the Tories desperately allying with European parties like the Danish People's Party and the True Finns who they recently considered to be far right nationalists who they attacked UKIP for allying with.
    Along with the Dutch MEP who opposes women's suffrage.

  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,949
    Speedy said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Something doesn't ring true about current polling.

    Everybody agree's Ed's a complete waste of space and a dud, but will apparently vote for him anyway.

    We're heading for something like a Scottish 2011 election, with a late collapse for Labour!

    Discuss.

    People are not voting for president, they are voting for parties.
    I'm not convinced...
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    What with Qatar and Saudi trying to stop the US bombing isis is there an opportunity for the Libs to rebuild their Iraq alliance in some Lab areas?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,949
    Easterross said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Something doesn't ring true about current polling.

    Everybody agree's Ed's a complete waste of space and a dud, but will apparently vote for him anyway.

    We're heading for something like a Scottish 2011 election, with a late collapse for Labour!

    Discuss.

    It's 1992 all over again. The majority of the pollsters are in for a total rogering
    I'm not sure. I think with the fixed term Parliament people will be later focusing than if an election was potentially imminent at any moment, but in the end they will focus and Labour will collapse.

    That's my hunch.
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    GIN1138 said:

    Something doesn't ring true about current polling.

    Everybody agree's Ed's a complete waste of space and a dud, but will apparently vote for him anyway.

    We're heading for something like a Scottish 2011 election, with a late collapse for Labour!

    Discuss.

    Lab/Con competing to have the least fewest votes rather than the most.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Easterross said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Something doesn't ring true about current polling.

    Everybody agree's Ed's a complete waste of space and a dud, but will apparently vote for him anyway.

    We're heading for something like a Scottish 2011 election, with a late collapse for Labour!

    Discuss.

    It's 1992 all over again. The majority of the pollsters are in for a total rogering
    Start to believe that when the tories start getting 36% or higher in polls on a regular basis.
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    Sean_F said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    rcs1000 said:

    So, UKIP has chosen as a partner a party that is a firm believer in Eurobonds.

    Interestingly Eurosceptic.

    Politics make strange bedfellows. Just look at the Tories desperately allying with European parties like the Danish People's Party and the True Finns who they recently considered to be far right nationalists who they attacked UKIP for allying with.
    Along with the Dutch MEP who opposes women's suffrage.

    Chaps we all know that no-one in the real world gives a shit about which MEPs sit in which groups. It is all Westminster village stuff. Unless Juncker rogers Nigel Farage in the middle of the parliament building, no-one will care what happens in Brussels or Strasbourg for about 4 years and 9 months.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2014
    With 15 mins to go:

    Spain 100
    Chile 1.07
    Draw 17

    http://www.betfair.com/exchange/football/market?id=1.112173783&exp=e
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    Looks like Juan Carlos isn't the only Spaniard losing their crown tonight,
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,584
    Easterross said:

    Sean_F said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    rcs1000 said:

    So, UKIP has chosen as a partner a party that is a firm believer in Eurobonds.

    Interestingly Eurosceptic.

    Politics make strange bedfellows. Just look at the Tories desperately allying with European parties like the Danish People's Party and the True Finns who they recently considered to be far right nationalists who they attacked UKIP for allying with.
    Along with the Dutch MEP who opposes women's suffrage.

    Chaps we all know that no-one in the real world gives a shit about which MEPs sit in which groups. It is all Westminster village stuff. Unless Juncker rogers Nigel Farage in the middle of the parliament building, no-one will care what happens in Brussels or Strasbourg for about 4 years and 9 months.
    But it is so fun to see the hypocrite Cameron allying himself with those he had previously scorned. It shows how desperate he has become to try and derail UKIP and it amusing to see him fail.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,891
    It's very quiet.

    No tennis tips for tomorrow, just glanced at the tournaments on Betfair.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    How much added time?!?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,397
    My goodness Chile had been good.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    Mr Dancer it's like a graveyard :(
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    Morris_Dancer said:

    It's very quiet.

    No tennis tips for tomorrow, just glanced at the tournaments on Betfair.

    Check out link 25

  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    @bpfootball: Excellent from RTE tonight - http://t.co/kZTLemzuY8

    Chortle
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Chile are much better defensively than the Dutch. I see them winning, possibly also the Aussies beating the pisspoor Spanish.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,891
    Mr. Jim, it's close to midnight, and something evil's lurking in the dark...
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,706
    ToryJim said:

    How much added time?!?

    15% of second half

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,891
    Mr. Eagles, I did before checking any comments.

    Mr. Jim, very nice headline.

    I don't think Cally Thistle Go Ballistic, Celtic Are Atrocious will ever be bettered, though.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Sun Politics @Sun_Politics

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead up one to four points: CON 34%, LAB 38%, LD 7%, UKIP 13%

  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    Adios Espana
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,100
    Goodnight Spain
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    Sun Politics @Sun_Politics · 34s

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead up one to four points: CON 34%, LAB 38%, LD 7%, UKIP 13%
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,538
    Easterross said:

    Sean_F said:

    Richard_Tyndall said:

    rcs1000 said:

    So, UKIP has chosen as a partner a party that is a firm believer in Eurobonds.

    Interestingly Eurosceptic.

    Politics make strange bedfellows. Just look at the Tories desperately allying with European parties like the Danish People's Party and the True Finns who they recently considered to be far right nationalists who they attacked UKIP for allying with.
    Along with the Dutch MEP who opposes women's suffrage.

    Chaps we all know that no-one in the real world gives a shit about which MEPs sit in which groups. It is all Westminster village stuff. Unless Juncker rogers Nigel Farage in the middle of the parliament building, no-one will care what happens in Brussels or Strasbourg for about 4 years and 9 months.
    Oh, I agree. 5 years ago, I spent many fruitless hours here rebutting tim's arguments about Latvian homophobes etc.

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,891
    edited June 2014
    Talking, as Mr. Gin was, of polling seeming incredible, I still can't quite believe the Lib Dems are on 7%.

    However, their prophesied ritual slaughter at the European elections came to pass, so perhaps the electorate will do unto the yellow parrot great and terrible things.

    Edited extra bit: off for the night. Adios.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    edited June 2014
    Super Cally!!, Morris, edit it quick!!!!

    Edit - and I think it was Goal Balistic

    Anyway - I think science has confirmed your point and it can't be bettererd.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Shadsy tipped Chile to win the World Cup iirc.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB

    The last time that LAB did better than tonight's 38% with YouGov was on April 15th


  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Ah yes, how appropriate it is that item 6 in TSE's characteristically interesting selection - that's the one about LibDem principles - should produce Error 404 Not Found.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,983
    Tonights YG LAB 347 CON 261 LD 16 Other 26 (UKPR)

    Ed is crap is PM (LT 11 months to go)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,100
    People obviously think a failure like Ed Miliband is the best move for the country.

    Face it. We're fucked.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    The other thing to note is that the Aussies are out too.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Tykejohnno said:


    Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB

    The last time that LAB did better than tonight's 38% with YouGov was on April 15th

    A bit of a selective view of the data!

    To put it in perspective, the Tories have only done better than tonight's 34% twice since March.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,785
    Sean_F said:



    Oh, I agree. 5 years ago, I spent many fruitless hours here rebutting tim's arguments about Latvian homophobes etc.

    Doesn't matter to most voters at all, I agree. But tim was right too - the Latvians and more generally the ECR split sowed the seeds for the current division between Cameron and Merkel. Continental conservatives just rolled their eyes and made a note that Cameron wasn't a reliable partner. They've still been willing to do deals with him, but without any sense of common feeling which is needed to get effective compromises.

    That's the highest Labour score for a while, by the way. FWIW my view is that although many voters are not persuaded by any of the party leaders, they don't really actively dislike them either, so the active dislike which the Conservative Party manages to engender in the swing electorate trumps anything else. I often meet voters who are less pro-Labour but more viscerally anti-Tory than I am: the belief that the Conservatives are simply not interested in ordinary people (except as a source of votes every five years) is quite widespread.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Ah yes, how appropriate it is that item 6 in TSE's characteristically interesting selection - that's the one about LibDem principles - should produce Error 404 Not Found.

    Fixed now.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    edited June 2014
    bigjohnowls said:

    Tonights YG LAB 347 CON 261 LD 16 Other 26 (UKPR)

    Ed is crap is PM (LT 11 months to go)

    What should really frighten you if you are a Labour supporter - and I mean this perfectly seriously - is the possibility that he might become PM.

    What on earth are you going to do then? Politics won't come to an end on May 8th 2015.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    ITV news: two Iraqi divisions in Mosul with 30,000 troops capitulated to 800 ISIS combatants.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    AndyJS said:

    ITV news: two Iraqi divisions in Mosul with 30,000 troops capitulated to 800 ISIS combatants.

    Clearly those two Iraqi Divisions were taught by the French.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Tykejohnno said:


    Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB

    The last time that LAB did better than tonight's 38% with YouGov was on April 15th

    A bit of a selective view of the data!

    To put it in perspective, the Tories have only done better than tonight's 34% twice since March.
    That should read a frightening stat for the tories ;-)
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Richard_Nabavi said:


    What should really frighten you if you are a Labour supporter - and I mean this perfectly seriously - is the possibility that he might become PM.

    What on earth are you going to do then? Politics won't come to an end on May 8th 2015.

    @Sun_Politics: Mili ban on dole for under-21s in desperate to save his political skin: http://t.co/tu8kvVTg6m
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    @GeneralBoles: Lad #Esp #Chi #Bra http://t.co/LJcgdVpciU

    What a geezer.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    NickPalmer said:

    Doesn't matter to most voters at all, I agree. But tim was right too - the Latvians and more generally the ECR split sowed the seeds for the current division between Cameron and Merkel. Continental conservatives just rolled their eyes and made a note that Cameron wasn't a reliable partner. They've still been willing to do deals with him, but without any sense of common feeling which is needed to get effective compromises.

    Come off it, Nick. You cannot possibly be serious - Merkel and other senior politicians were fussed about the Latvian homophobes?

    Get real - as you well know, there were, and still are, lots of, how shall I put it, 'colourful' parties in all of the European Parliament groupings. It is inconceivable that grown-ups like Angela Merkel would be fussed by it.
  • CopperSulphateCopperSulphate Posts: 1,119
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Tonights YG LAB 347 CON 261 LD 16 Other 26 (UKPR)

    Ed is crap is PM (LT 11 months to go)

    What should really frighten you if you are a Labour supporter - and I mean this perfectly seriously - is the possibility that he might become PM.

    What on earth are you going to do then? Politics won't come to an end on May 8th 2015.
    It's going to be a complete and utter disaster. Hopefully it will put Labour out of power for a generation.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Frank Gardner saying some very scary things on BBC News.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Scott_P said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:


    What should really frighten you if you are a Labour supporter - and I mean this perfectly seriously - is the possibility that he might become PM.

    What on earth are you going to do then? Politics won't come to an end on May 8th 2015.

    @Sun_Politics: Mili ban on dole for under-21s in desperate to save his political skin: http://t.co/tu8kvVTg6m
    The Oxbridge ex-SpAds who run politics these days genuinely believe the school leaving age is 21.

    I cannot see this becoming party policy -- someone will remember in time that under-21s have the vote.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,100
    AndyJS said:

    ITV news: two Iraqi divisions in Mosul with 30,000 troops capitulated to 800 ISIS combatants.

    They don't deserve our help.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,100
    Pathetic.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    CopperSulphate said:


    It's going to be a complete and utter disaster. Hopefully it will put Labour out of power for a generation.

    Only if the right doesn't shoot itself in the foot by splitting into an orgy of recriminations and Kipper fantasy. On past form, that is not something one should rely upon.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,100
    AndyJS said:

    ITV news: two Iraqi divisions in Mosul with 30,000 troops capitulated to 800 ISIS combatants.

    It's a good lesson being taught here, terrorism. Real terrorism - it works.
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    edited June 2014
    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    ITV news: two Iraqi divisions in Mosul with 30,000 troops capitulated to 800 ISIS combatants.

    They don't deserve our help.
    It's ARVN all over again. If the armed forces aren't emotionally invested in their government, then this is what happens.

  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    AndyJS said:

    ITV news: two Iraqi divisions in Mosul with 30,000 troops capitulated to 800 ISIS combatants.

    Ironically, it used to be said that if you shot at the Americans, they evacuated; the British dived for cover; but the French shot back.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,759
    Just backed Chile to win the World Cup, 25/1 (with bet365)
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @thetimes: Tomorrow's @thetimes front page: Double poll blow turns up the heat on Miliband http://t.co/e43AyPQAuJ
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Item 19 is rather sweet. Owen Jones apparently doesn't know about prescription charges, bless him.
  • NinoinozNinoinoz Posts: 1,312
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    AndyJS said:

    ITV news: two Iraqi divisions in Mosul with 30,000 troops capitulated to 800 ISIS combatants.

    Clearly those two Iraqi Divisions were taught by the French.
    Would those French be the same French who at Waterloo shouted "Merde!" to an offer of quarter from the British and promptly were blasted to death by artillery fire?
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