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First? - How's everyone doing with their world cup betting? I'm in profit, still, just about, after first Holland match bet. I've broke even every world cup but I honestly can see that record lasting.

JBriskin said:

First? - How's everyone doing with their world cup betting? I'm in profit, still, just about, after first Holland match bet. I've broke even every world cup but I honestly can see that record lasting.

Has been a very profitable world cup for me so far and all those other PBers that have followed me in.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Please check out the video in link 25, you won't regret it

Oh dear me.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Please check out the video in link 25, you won't regret it

So true!

Are skyscrapers the new arms race?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/travel/36969/the-worlds-tallest-twin-towers-revealed.html

TheScreamingEagles said:

JBriskin said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

JBriskin said:

First? - How's everyone doing with their world cup betting? I'm in profit, still, just about, after first Holland match bet. I've broke even every world cup but I honestly can see that record lasting.

Has been a very profitable world cup for me so far and all those other PBers that have followed me in.

Well done - Have you got thoughts on Cameroon v Croatia? All I can add is that Cameroon played very very badly in their first match.

Backing Cameroon.

I love Cameron, Italia 90 was my first proper world cup, who can forget them, defeating the Argies, Roger Milla and Francis Oman Biyick's challenge on Claudio Caniggia, that left Mr Caniggia looking for someone with a bollock donor card.

Yeah, 90 was my first proper world cup as well - I was trying to explain to Ms Briskin about why people liked Cameroon and there was this old guy that scored that everybody liked but I couldn't remember his name - then a couple of hours later there he was on Tv doing his dance and I was - Roger Milla!!!!!

2 nil to Chile.

Good evening, everyone.

Mr. Jim, haven't they always been used as an international pissing contest?

Only countries with real claims to fame, such as conquering most of the world and giving it its primary language, or being the place where Constantine the Great became emperor, don't need to bother bolstering their ego with such nonsense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th6ts_O7Jno

Edit it was Benjamin Massing that committed that foul on Caniggia

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeRlJJbtdHc

For Spain, it's Chile Con Carnage (via Paddy Power)

[90 was my first proper world cup as well]

Since we're on the half time break and have time for clarification - for age reference and life confirmation we used to switch to eurosport when the goals were scored so that we could see the little animated man run across the screen - Bonus Briskin points to anyone that can confirm the same!!!

So, UKIP has chosen as a partner a party that is a firm believer in Eurobonds.

Interestingly Eurosceptic.

ToryJim said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

For Spain, it's Chile Con Carnage (via Paddy Power)

It's certainly an inauspicious start for the new King

King Juan Carlos's abdication is not effective until 10:00pm this evening, approx 10 minutes after the match finishes :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27910104

JackW said:

ToryJim said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

For Spain, it's Chile Con Carnage (via Paddy Power)

It's certainly an inauspicious start for the new King

King Juan Carlos's abdication is not effective until 10:00pm this evening, approx 10 minutes after the match finishes :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27910104

It's actually 11 as the time quoted is GMT but my point was a bit cheeky

anotherDave said:

RE: UKIP group
A number of UKIP's partners in the 2009 parliament have been courted by the Conservatives, and joined their ECR group.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/17/Cameron-s-Euro-Tories-embrace-party-which-denies-women-are-equal

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/28/Tories-woo-EU-hard-right-and-anti-Muslim-parties-to-block-UKIP

Which led to the following twitter-tiff:

Roger Helmer
‏@RogerHelmerMEP
Dan Hannan's eurosceptic credentials have been undermined by his desperate efforts to stop UKIP forming a new EFD group in the EP.

Daniel Hannan ‏@DanHannanMEP 2h
Hard as it may be to believe, @RogerHelmerMEP, *it's not always about you*. I'm delighted that ECR is bigger, but I'm sure EFD will survive.

twitter.com/RogerHelmerMEP/status/479291187321659392

I've never looked at Breitbart before. Was everyone on it exiled from the Telegraph for being too odd?

matt said:

anotherDave said:

RE: UKIP group
A number of UKIP's partners in the 2009 parliament have been courted by the Conservatives, and joined their ECR group.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/17/Cameron-s-Euro-Tories-embrace-party-which-denies-women-are-equal

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/28/Tories-woo-EU-hard-right-and-anti-Muslim-parties-to-block-UKIP

Which led to the following twitter-tiff:

Roger Helmer
‏@RogerHelmerMEP
Dan Hannan's eurosceptic credentials have been undermined by his desperate efforts to stop UKIP forming a new EFD group in the EP.

Daniel Hannan ‏@DanHannanMEP 2h
Hard as it may be to believe, @RogerHelmerMEP, *it's not always about you*. I'm delighted that ECR is bigger, but I'm sure EFD will survive.

twitter.com/RogerHelmerMEP/status/479291187321659392

I've never looked at Breitbart before. Was everyone on it exiled from the Telegraph for being too odd?

Does seem that way, it certainly seems the place for those who prefer ideological purity over practicality.

JBriskin said:

Scott_P said:

@LabourList: Ed Miliband offers Hillsborough survivor “sincere” apology over Sun photo http://labli.st/1somdZm

He is going to be apologising for the next year...

Just in case some PBers are avoiding Guido, he's still go this rather humourous quote of the day-

"Harriet Harman tells LBC that Ed ‘was right to pose with the Sun and right to apologise for it afterwards’."

It's a great example of tying yourself in knots Brisky.

Mr. Briskin, that really is IngSoc... she changed from war with Eastasia to war with Eurasia from one sentence to another.

GIN1138 said:

Something doesn't ring true about current polling.

Everybody agree's Ed's a complete waste of space and a dud, but will apparently vote for him anyway.

We're heading for something like a Scottish 2011 election, with a late collapse for Labour!

Discuss.

Maybe it's the tory brand ?

Easterross said:

JBriskin said:

[Hope you are all getting the popcorn and beer ready for 11am tomorrow]

It's FMQ day tomorrow Easter - don't mislead our anglo cousins.

Scotland's answer to the childrens' playground game "Ecky thump"

I tend to agree Easter - but the terms been renamed!!!

http://youtu.be/BLja1dwJtDg

Spain just don't look like scoring 1 let alone 3

Richard_Tyndall said:

rcs1000 said:

So, UKIP has chosen as a partner a party that is a firm believer in Eurobonds.

Interestingly Eurosceptic.

Politics make strange bedfellows. Just look at the Tories desperately allying with European parties like the Danish People's Party and the True Finns who they recently considered to be far right nationalists who they attacked UKIP for allying with.

Along with the Dutch MEP who opposes women's suffrage.

Looks like Juan Carlos isn't the only Spaniard losing their crown tonight,

It's very quiet.

No tennis tips for tomorrow, just glanced at the tournaments on Betfair.

My goodness Chile had been good.

Morris_Dancer said:

It's very quiet.

No tennis tips for tomorrow, just glanced at the tournaments on Betfair.

Check out link 25

Chile are much better defensively than the Dutch. I see them winning, possibly also the Aussies beating the pisspoor Spanish.

ToryJim said:

How much added time?!?

15% of second half

Sun Politics @Sun_Politics

YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead up one to four points: CON 34%, LAB 38%, LD 7%, UKIP 13%

Goodnight Spain

Easterross said:

Sean_F said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

rcs1000 said:

So, UKIP has chosen as a partner a party that is a firm believer in Eurobonds.

Interestingly Eurosceptic.

Politics make strange bedfellows. Just look at the Tories desperately allying with European parties like the Danish People's Party and the True Finns who they recently considered to be far right nationalists who they attacked UKIP for allying with.

Along with the Dutch MEP who opposes women's suffrage.

Chaps we all know that no-one in the real world gives a shit about which MEPs sit in which groups. It is all Westminster village stuff. Unless Juncker rogers Nigel Farage in the middle of the parliament building, no-one will care what happens in Brussels or Strasbourg for about 4 years and 9 months.

Oh, I agree. 5 years ago, I spent many fruitless hours here rebutting tim's arguments about Latvian homophobes etc.

Super Cally!!, Morris, edit it quick!!!!

Edit - and I think it was Goal Balistic

Anyway - I think science has confirmed your point and it can't be bettererd.

Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB

The last time that LAB did better than tonight's 38% with YouGov was on April 15th

Tonights YG LAB 347 CON 261 LD 16 Other 26 (UKPR)

Ed is crap is PM (LT 11 months to go)

The other thing to note is that the Aussies are out too.

Sean_F said:

Oh, I agree. 5 years ago, I spent many fruitless hours here rebutting tim's arguments about Latvian homophobes etc.

Doesn't matter to most voters at all, I agree. But tim was right too - the Latvians and more generally the ECR split sowed the seeds for the current division between Cameron and Merkel. Continental conservatives just rolled their eyes and made a note that Cameron wasn't a reliable partner. They've still been willing to do deals with him, but without any sense of common feeling which is needed to get effective compromises.

That's the highest Labour score for a while, by the way. FWIW my view is that although many voters are not persuaded by any of the party leaders, they don't really actively dislike them either, so the active dislike which the Conservative Party manages to engender in the swing electorate trumps anything else. I often meet voters who are less pro-Labour but more viscerally anti-Tory than I am: the belief that the Conservatives are simply not interested in ordinary people (except as a source of votes every five years) is quite widespread.

bigjohnowls said:

Tonights YG LAB 347 CON 261 LD 16 Other 26 (UKPR)

Ed is crap is PM (LT 11 months to go)

What should really frighten you if you are a Labour supporter - and I mean this perfectly seriously - is the possibility that he might become PM.

What on earth are you going to do then? Politics won't come to an end on May 8th 2015.

AndyJS said:

ITV news: two Iraqi divisions in Mosul with 30,000 troops capitulated to 800 ISIS combatants.

Clearly those two Iraqi Divisions were taught by the French.

Richard_Nabavi said:

What should really frighten you if you are a Labour supporter - and I mean this perfectly seriously - is the possibility that he might become PM.

What on earth are you going to do then? Politics won't come to an end on May 8th 2015.

@Sun_Politics: Mili ban on dole for under-21s in desperate to save his political skin: http://t.co/tu8kvVTg6m

NickPalmer said:

Doesn't matter to most voters at all, I agree. But tim was right too - the Latvians and more generally the ECR split sowed the seeds for the current division between Cameron and Merkel. Continental conservatives just rolled their eyes and made a note that Cameron wasn't a reliable partner. They've still been willing to do deals with him, but without any sense of common feeling which is needed to get effective compromises.

Come off it, Nick. You cannot possibly be serious - Merkel and other senior politicians were fussed about the Latvian homophobes?

Get real - as you well know, there were, and still are, lots of, how shall I put it, 'colourful' parties in all of the European Parliament groupings. It is inconceivable that grown-ups like Angela Merkel would be fussed by it.

Frank Gardner saying some very scary things on BBC News.

AndyJS said:

ITV news: two Iraqi divisions in Mosul with 30,000 troops capitulated to 800 ISIS combatants.

They don't deserve our help.

CopperSulphate said:

It's going to be a complete and utter disaster. Hopefully it will put Labour out of power for a generation.

Only if the right doesn't shoot itself in the foot by splitting into an orgy of recriminations and Kipper fantasy. On past form, that is not something one should rely upon.

Pulpstar said:

AndyJS said:

ITV news: two Iraqi divisions in Mosul with 30,000 troops capitulated to 800 ISIS combatants.

They don't deserve our help.

It's ARVN all over again. If the armed forces aren't emotionally invested in their government, then this is what happens.

Just backed Chile to win the World Cup, 25/1 (with bet365)

Item 19 is rather sweet. Owen Jones apparently doesn't know about prescription charges, bless him.