Trump has not spoken to Pence since Wednesday’s storming of the Capitol – politicalbetting.com
Trump has not spoken to Pence since Wednesday’s storming of the Capitol – politicalbetting.com
A major split seems to have occurred between Trump and his VP Mike Pence according to NBC News
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'I'm not your friend.'
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1348719737816158208
God, I hope that doesn't mean he'll eventually end up living in the UK.
Was he telling Trump it's over?
Which is both utterly remarkable, and utterly unsurprising.
Then during the 2019 election campaign it was made clear his policy was to leave the Single Market, leave the Customs union and the UK taking up the ability to set its own rules and sign new trade deals. Just as he said in 2016, as Theresa May might say "nothing has changed". And that was explicitly put into the manifesto that won an 80 seat majority.
So what more do you expect? This is the decision people have made. That is democracy. Choices matter. Votes matter.
So now we've left the Single Market and Customs Union. As was promised in 2019 and won an 80 seat majority. As was promised in 2016 and you voted for.
If you don't want this, then don't vote for it. 🤷🏻♂️ Otherwise its time to move on and get on with it already. Businesses will adjust, we will reach a new economic equilibrium that is different to before and life goes on.
So in my case the Tory party were elected on a lie - that there wouldn't be any additional paperwork and oh look there is.
But people chose to vote for it anyway. Democracy matters. Objecting to that is not much better than Trump objecting to his losing the election.
The Tories won on a promise of doing this, they have now done it. Quelle surprise.
If in 2024 people think it was a disaster then Labour can pledge to return us to the Single Market and Customs Union. If they do and win an election on that manifesto then that too would be democracy in action. I support democracy, whether my side wins the vote or loses it - can you say the same?
Who on earth are the 21% ?!
I'd have thought democracy being under threat is the one thing the loons (Stolen election) and the sane (Attempted insurrection against the result) would probably agree on
“British people will still be able to go and work in the EU; to live; to travel; to study; to buy homes and to settle down".
"There will continue to be free trade, and access to the single market."
- Boris Johnson, 27th June 2016
I notice FPT the FBI warning of threats of protests at state capitols and in DC. The story on the message boards keeps coming back to the 18th, something that those who take delight at the shutting down of certain forums and groups may wish to take pause such delight, since some of the people on there have awful COMSEC.
The people to concern most about those motivated at the moment are those groups driven by race ideology. Often the most committed & willing and well organised because they have been under scrutiny for a very long time so get how it goes.
There's a bit of paperwork attached to that access now that didn't use to be there. But there still is access if you're prepared to fill in the paperwork.
🤷🏻♂️
In mechanics, it's common to have an equilibrium with everything fallen down. I simplify, but if you take a ladder, lean it against the wall, and then come back and pull the base out from the wall, you'll find at some point it just falls down flat instead of staying up.
That would be the Illuminati point, naturally.
https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1348725601335717889
That's not normal in economics though. Considering that already pre-Brexit an absolute majority of UK trade was done external the Customs Union and external to the Single Market then I see no macroeconomic reason whatsoever to believe that post-Brexit there will be "nothing left" from EU trade.
There might be less EU trade but it won't be "nothing". Afterall "gravity" will still be affecting our trade, won't it?
"Those aged over 80, and some in younger groups such as the over 60s, were not given potentially life-saving treatment because health chiefs were concerned the NHS would be overrun, according to reports.
It is claimed documents called a 'triage tool', drawn up at the request of England's chief medical officer Chris Whitty, were used in preventing elderly Covid-19 patients from receiving ventilation in intensive care.
As part of an investigation, the Sunday Times says the tool was used to create a 'score' for patients based on their age, frailty, and illness. Under the original system, over 80s were automatically excluded from intensive care treatment due to their age. Even those in the over 60s who were considered frail and with pre-existing health conditions could have been over the intensive care threshold...
...It also cites data, which shows the over 70s and 80s groups made up the smallest percentage of ICU patients, despite having the highest number of deaths."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8876993/Fury-revealed-80s-not-given-potentially-life-saving-treatment-wave.html
Here’s his essay from the end of August.
https://carnegieendowment.org/2020/08/29/america-first-enters-its-most-combustible-moment-pub-82604
... If he loses, I doubt that he will suddenly embrace the traditional bipartisan commitment to effective transitions. At best, he’ll be consumed by efforts to rationalize his defeat and paint the election as rigged; at worst, he’ll seek to contest or undermine the result. Like so many other features of the Trump era, the transition would bear little resemblance to any before, or any of the many I served through as a career diplomat. ..
Philip's "you voted for it even though we lied to you even though it will do you harm" attitude reminds me of the South park episode "Human CentiPad" where Apple keep turning up to do all kind of horrible things to the boys, claiming "you gave your permission" because the right to surgically attach Kyle to an iPad was in the EULA he accepted.
And they reportedly feel more up than down. Last week was a result to them & that suggests there could be more to come.
Can you not see the difference there? Are elected representatives supposed to upend what they promised not once but repeatedly? Why? Why did they promise to leave both in 2016 and 2019 then? 🤔
Its a waste of time debating this with you. Either Make UK knows more about manufacturing or you do.
Spoiler alert - its not you.
The "new equilibrium" really is the Phillip Thompson faction's ideology being more important than other people's livelihoods. It's tough telling people that when they have lost theirs.
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I suspect NE Scottish fishing communities may not be as grateful to the Tories as some were hoping.
Quote from the UK government: “We are working closely with the industry to help understand and address the issue”. I feel they might have made the effort to understand the issue before proceeding with their stupid Brexit. Or at least had a vague curiosity about what the issues might be. Anyway they are blaming the SNP for all the problems, so that much was predictable.
https://twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1348568105098899456
It would significantly increase the death rate of the eldest in comparison.
The thing is - the younger a patient is, the better their chances of responding to medical help, especially with covid, so if they do have to triage, I would expect it to go like that. It’s horrific, and I’d also expect some mental health retirements from the NHS when all this is over from doctors and nurses who can no longer face working on.
I’d bet against it.
I accept there will be disruption and changes. I just think that is what people have voted for. Changing things is literally the point of democracy.
https://tinyurl.com/y65yyqr2
The graph on hospital admissions clearly shows that there are very, very few hospital admissions with age < 44.
There are some admissions between 45-64.
But, then the admissions really start to rocket as we go from 65-74; they rocket further from 75-84 and they are in the stratosphere at 85 and over.
It seems a fair summary of the data that very, very few people under the age of 44 require hospital treatment.
Ventilation (as we discussed when it looked Boris would be on a ventilator back in April) takes an awful long time to recover from even if you were well before you became will. Add historic problems or other illnesses and chances are a ventilator won't really help you.
https://twitter.com/AkivaMCohen/status/1348657168044724225
A recession is where someone else loses their job, a depression is a recession where you lose your own job.
Yes, leaving the SM and CU was kinda implicit in the 2016 vote and explicit by 2019. The dishonesty was to portray the leavings as broadly consequence-free. Whenever concrete issues were raised (the Gilbertian insanity of the status of NI being the obvious example), they were laughed off. Project Fear. No downsides, cake and eat it, remember? All the people who went to the trouble of assembling the SM and CU were just ninnies wasting their time. You don't need all that careful alignment to permit free merchants to sail from port to port in their galleons. High, diddle-dee, a captain's life for me.
And hey- the EU could have given the UK something with all the benefits of SM and CU if they had wanted to. It's not Johnson's fault, or Gove's, that they chose to protect their interests over ours.
Having spent a lot of time in the US and having many good friends there, some of them in the broader government community/advisors to it, the shock is palpable because of the symbolism. Have 5 people die at a similar event at a town hall, its a shock, the political nature of it clear but you wouldn't get the reaction that democracy is under threat.
In other words, that ONS data is entirely consistent with half the people in ICUs being below the age of 70.
Recessions, depressions and people losing their jobs is a fact of life. I don't believe its either possible or desirable to abolish that either. I accept it.
I don't pretend there is no price to pay, I simply say we've made our choice and decisions have consequences. I don't understand what is objectionable about that - people like RP keep seeming to want to twist it into saying I'm saying everything is sunshine and roses and no downside. Codswallop, that's not true. That can't be true.
On the one hand, he knew Trump's character better than most, and behaviour of which he was capable, and yet continued with the slavish loyalty.
On the other, Trump was apparently cock-a-hoop whilst the mayhem was unfolding, having made Pence public enemy number one. Pence would have been against the wall ahead of Pelosi had rioters got hold of him - and I don't think it's yet sunk in how close that came to happening. So the brutality and lack of concern Trump showed to Pence is more extreme than the typical Trump tweet rage. He was more than happy to see his deputy murdered for the sniff of a chance of four more years for himself - that's the horrible truth brought home to Pence.
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1348731325440733184
We will have another election in 2024. If the public wants to revert back into the SM and CU, or revert back into full EU membership, then they can elect a party promising that. Again that is democracy in action.
That is also pretty misleading, if it is true that over a lot of over 60s, and all over 80s don't get to see an ICU no matter what
There are a lot more 100,000s between 45-64 than there are over 85.
Work it out against the population numbers in each age group.
I never said it was all just "Project Fear" that is you projecting. I always expected there to be a price to be paid, there always is in life. No such thing as a free lunch. I just accepted that five years ago, now you're acting as if it is new and unforeseen, don't be ridiculous.
… we have a small favour to ask. We wer on the wrong side of the worst contract negotiation since Arsenal agreed to give Mesut Ozil £18m a year to play Fortnite and comment on twitter - can you send us a couple of quid to help us pay Polly for this rubbish?"
But, surely the median and IQR of age of hospital admissions is already known?
It seems a very basic statistic that PHE must already have.
If you are over 80 and get Covid you have vastly more chance of dying than being admitted to ICU.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1348734077722091521
I did hear of a 79 that has survived 2 months of ventilation and ECMO, and is now back at work. It was in India though, and he did own the hospital!
(And 143 under 5s and 89 5-14s)
28.4 per 100,000 between 45-64 in the UK would be 4,893 people
Compare to
244.2 per 100,000 over 85, which would be 3,993
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1348246485188677638?s=19
"I would like to have the steak please"
"It costs £35"
"That is OK, I will have the steak"
"Are you sure? £35 is a lot to pay for once meal"
"Yes please, the steak. Medium rare."
"I don't think you understand, you could go shopping and get something cheaper"
"The steak please"
"But the price is £35"
"The steak please"
"Why don't you accept that the steak costs £35"
"I do. The steak please. Medium rare".
"Experts say that £35 is a lot, you could eat cheaper elsewhere".
"I have made my decision, steak please. I am prepared to pay £35 for it"
"Why do you know more than the experts? Why do you insist it doesn't cost £35?"
"I don't. I'm prepared to pay £35 for the steak"
"Who knows better, the people who printed the menu or you? They say it is £35 for one steak"
"I get that. I want the steak"
"What is your expertise on steak prices? Why won't you accept this steak will cost you £35"
"I do. I already spoke to the waiter and ordered it, I saw the menu when I did."
"Look at that, now the steak has arrived. Are you happy now, that is going to cost £35. Why didn't you think about that?"
Brutal but true. If you've made it to 80 you've had a good long life, more than your three score years and ten. You should give up the ghost for the next generation.
That is where we are. Let us face it squarely. Moreover, both my parents, over 80, agree. If that is the choice, it must be made. Just make sure the end is pain-free. Bring out the morphine, cognac, cocaine and Xanax. Bring out the Brompton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brompton_cocktail
We are talking about paperwork and the impact that paperwork is having on sales, exports and logistics.
Indeed seeing him in a motel in Schitts Creek might well be a great reality show.
Every Brexit disaster adds a few more votes for independence... So for the SNP there is zero downside here - do well and it's the SNP's wise decisions that solved the problem, got a problem and it isn't their fault, it's London's.