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1st. But be warned:
"Election officials in Cobb County, the third largest county in Georgia, are planning to open fewer than half the early voting locations for the Senate runoff elections in January. It is one of the only counties in the state to make such a drastic reduction in voting access while the pandemic surges.
The county swung heavily to Democrats in the general election"
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I have to say, despite all my years living in the US, I hate the Americanism "one of the only" to mean 'one of the few'rottenborough said:1st. But be warned:
"Election officials in Cobb County, the third largest county in Georgia, are planning to open fewer than half the early voting locations for the Senate runoff elections in January. It is one of the only counties in the state to make such a drastic reduction in voting access while the pandemic surges.
The county swung heavily to Democrats in the general election"
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Since when was “one of the only” an Americanism? I’ve said that since I was a kid and I’ve never even been to the US.TimT said:
I have to say, despite all my years living in the US, I hate the Americanism "one of the only" to mean 'one of the few'rottenborough said:1st. But be warned:
"Election officials in Cobb County, the third largest county in Georgia, are planning to open fewer than half the early voting locations for the Senate runoff elections in January. It is one of the only counties in the state to make such a drastic reduction in voting access while the pandemic surges.
The county swung heavily to Democrats in the general election"
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Isn't it just a corruption of the original Chesney Hawkes song?Gallowgate said:
Since when was “one of the only” an Americanism? I’ve said that since I was a kid and I’ve never even been to the US.TimT said:
I have to say, despite all my years living in the US, I hate the Americanism "one of the only" to mean 'one of the few'rottenborough said:1st. But be warned:
"Election officials in Cobb County, the third largest county in Georgia, are planning to open fewer than half the early voting locations for the Senate runoff elections in January. It is one of the only counties in the state to make such a drastic reduction in voting access while the pandemic surges.
The county swung heavily to Democrats in the general election"
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Never ever heard it in the UK. Maybe it's taken off since I've been an expat.Gallowgate said:
Since when was “one of the only” an Americanism? I’ve said that since I was a kid and I’ve never even been to the US.TimT said:
I have to say, despite all my years living in the US, I hate the Americanism "one of the only" to mean 'one of the few'rottenborough said:1st. But be warned:
"Election officials in Cobb County, the third largest county in Georgia, are planning to open fewer than half the early voting locations for the Senate runoff elections in January. It is one of the only counties in the state to make such a drastic reduction in voting access while the pandemic surges.
The county swung heavily to Democrats in the general election"
NYTimes
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I certainly use it. But perhaps such is the influence of american TV? I also used to prounced zeds and zees thanks to Sesame Street.Gallowgate said:
Since when was “one of the only” an Americanism? I’ve said that since I was a kid and I’ve never even been to the US.TimT said:
I have to say, despite all my years living in the US, I hate the Americanism "one of the only" to mean 'one of the few'rottenborough said:1st. But be warned:
"Election officials in Cobb County, the third largest county in Georgia, are planning to open fewer than half the early voting locations for the Senate runoff elections in January. It is one of the only counties in the state to make such a drastic reduction in voting access while the pandemic surges.
The county swung heavily to Democrats in the general election"
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Instinctively it feels like an Americanism. I'm pretty sure "one of (a) few" or "one of a handful" is more commonly used.Gallowgate said:
Since when was “one of the only” an Americanism? I’ve said that since I was a kid and I’ve never even been to the US.TimT said:
I have to say, despite all my years living in the US, I hate the Americanism "one of the only" to mean 'one of the few'rottenborough said:1st. But be warned:
"Election officials in Cobb County, the third largest county in Georgia, are planning to open fewer than half the early voting locations for the Senate runoff elections in January. It is one of the only counties in the state to make such a drastic reduction in voting access while the pandemic surges.
The county swung heavily to Democrats in the general election"
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OK, a google search shows it has been around in English since 1770 at least (i.e. in British English) but that it only gained widespread use relatively recently, which would have coincided with my arrival in the US, hence my impression it was an Americanism. Seems to be language mavens view it as illogical and/or ungrammatical but acceptable.kle4 said:
I certainly use it. But perhaps such is the influence of american TV? I also used to prounced zeds and zees thanks to Sesame Street.Gallowgate said:
Since when was “one of the only” an Americanism? I’ve said that since I was a kid and I’ve never even been to the US.TimT said:
I have to say, despite all my years living in the US, I hate the Americanism "one of the only" to mean 'one of the few'rottenborough said:1st. But be warned:
"Election officials in Cobb County, the third largest county in Georgia, are planning to open fewer than half the early voting locations for the Senate runoff elections in January. It is one of the only counties in the state to make such a drastic reduction in voting access while the pandemic surges.
The county swung heavily to Democrats in the general election"
NYTimes
So, it's official, I am on old fuddy-duddy.1 -
Kay Burley being a massive hypocrite... shock....her excuse is even worse than Professor Pants down who claimed he simply made a risk based assessment when he decided nookie couldn't wait.
A woman who has spent 6 months asking the most ridiculous questions about what the rules are and aren't just didn't know the rules....while she spends every day trashing everybody else if they even hesitate about what they are.9 -
Most "Americanisms" tend to be exactly like this. Usually maintaining an archaic (in UK) form (fall for autumn), or adopting a little known regional variation (pants for trousers).TimT said:
OK, a google search shows it has been around in English since 1770 at least (i.e. in British English) but that it only gained widespread use relatively recently, which would have coincided with my arrival in the US, hence my impression it was an Americanism. Seems to be language mavens view it as illogical and/or ungrammatical but acceptable.kle4 said:
I certainly use it. But perhaps such is the influence of american TV? I also used to prounced zeds and zees thanks to Sesame Street.Gallowgate said:
Since when was “one of the only” an Americanism? I’ve said that since I was a kid and I’ve never even been to the US.TimT said:
I have to say, despite all my years living in the US, I hate the Americanism "one of the only" to mean 'one of the few'rottenborough said:1st. But be warned:
"Election officials in Cobb County, the third largest county in Georgia, are planning to open fewer than half the early voting locations for the Senate runoff elections in January. It is one of the only counties in the state to make such a drastic reduction in voting access while the pandemic surges.
The county swung heavily to Democrats in the general election"
NYTimes
So, it's official, I am on old fuddy-duddy.0 -
It's concentrated madness, and worth watching a stream of it at least, though likely not spending money on.Anabobazina said:
I had to look those up!kle4 said:
No love for Papers Please, the world's best paperwork checking simulator, or Hatoful Boyfriend, the dating sim between a human girl in the post apocalypse and sentient pigeons? One of these is actually good.Anabobazina said:
I hadn’t played computer games for two decades or more until my young son got a PS4.kle4 said:
I don't understand why people cannot understand the attraction. Gaming is no different to any other entertainment, yet for some it's as though there's something strange about it. Maybe it involves a skill challenge like a physical game, maybe it has a good story like a movie, it depends, it makes as little sense to not understand the appeal as to not understand why someone might like to read a book - even if not everyone would enjoy reading a book, is it hard to figure out why someone might?DavidL said:
Don’t recall that stopping him in all honesty. I enjoy bridge and chess but I’ve never got into computer games. Just never saw the attraction.Fysics_Teacher said:
Games are played by many, if not most adults: my octogenarian step-mother plays bridge for instance.DavidL said:
My son outgrew computer games about aged 13. I thought that was fairly normal.Razedabode said:
I'm enjoying assassin's creed valhalla at the moment. Not sure anything will ever top the Witcher - but Cyberpunks attention to detail is impressive (i.e. choosing the size of your genitalia)Fysics_Teacher said:
I thought Witcher 3 was one of the best games I've ever played, but I'm waiting until after Christmas when the new Xboxes are in stock again. Hopefully that way some of the bugs will be sorted.rcs1000 said:
“Cyberpunk 2077” wants to be the “Witcher 3” of crime dramas, and it very much hits that high bar in almost every regard. The writing is an engaging thrill ride that’s going to leave you wondering what’s going to happen next. Conversations flow with natural pacing, emotion and wit to stay entertaining and grounded. And they all take place in the evocative sheen and grime of a cyberpunk world. I’d leave a bar in Night City and feel like I spent some actual time in a smoky, low-lit environment for the last hour, having cigarette smoke blown in my face and smelling like whiskey. In its design, it is to 2020 what “Red Dead Redemption 2” was to 2018.MaxPB said:Gaming news - Cyberpunk 2077 has got it's reviews out, it looks amazing. From the makers of The Witcher. I'm going to get it when the PS5 patch is out.
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It’s a good thing “Cyberpunk 2077” gets so many details right, because in its current prelaunch state, it’s … what you’d expect from a launch CDPR game. Before “Witcher 3” became the darling of the industry, it was released in a famously buggy state. “Cyberpunk 2077” continues this tradition despite seven years in development, several delays and worrying reports of overtime crunch.
Computers are just another way of playing, and games like The Witcher 3 are not just games but huge and complex stories that you can immerse yourself in.
It is also a game which explores themes that are a bit too adult for a thirteen-year old: it has an 18 certificate for a reason.
Oh boy. can I now see the appeal! The Unchartered and Assassin’s Creed series are more like immersive, interactive cinema than video games in the old sense of the term. Works of art.
@DavidL is missing out.
It's a wide field
I can see the appeal of the first one, the second one... hmm...
Sounds like a contradition, to realise it's overthought, by thinking. I do agree we overinterpret everything though.Philip_Thompson said:
Thinking about it I think this might be getting overthought.Beibheirli_C said:
Because the supplicant travels towards powerBenpointer said:Minor point in the great scheme of things but why didn't Boris get Ursula vdL to come to London?
Surely a trip to Brussels creates bad visuals for his main constituency whatever the outcome.
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I am with them on 'pants' (though obviously I wouldn't use it myself), as if underpants is correctly termed, at some point the thing that went over them must have been called pants. Or maybe to be purely British, we should drop (tee-hee) our pants and just call then breeches.dixiedean said:
Most "Americanisms" tend to be exactly like this. Usually maintaining an archaic (in UK) form (fall for autumn), or adopting a little known regional variation (pants for trousers).TimT said:
OK, a google search shows it has been around in English since 1770 at least (i.e. in British English) but that it only gained widespread use relatively recently, which would have coincided with my arrival in the US, hence my impression it was an Americanism. Seems to be language mavens view it as illogical and/or ungrammatical but acceptable.kle4 said:
I certainly use it. But perhaps such is the influence of american TV? I also used to prounced zeds and zees thanks to Sesame Street.Gallowgate said:
Since when was “one of the only” an Americanism? I’ve said that since I was a kid and I’ve never even been to the US.TimT said:
I have to say, despite all my years living in the US, I hate the Americanism "one of the only" to mean 'one of the few'rottenborough said:1st. But be warned:
"Election officials in Cobb County, the third largest county in Georgia, are planning to open fewer than half the early voting locations for the Senate runoff elections in January. It is one of the only counties in the state to make such a drastic reduction in voting access while the pandemic surges.
The county swung heavily to Democrats in the general election"
NYTimes
So, it's official, I am on old fuddy-duddy.1 -
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I think Loeffler, who did debate, will beat Warnock even if Ossoff beats Purdue so the GOP will hold their Senate majority regardless0
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All good words...but what about actions. Little sign yet that the west are going to move away from huge over reliance on China for crucial supply chain.HYUFD said:1 -
Kona is a great leftfield choice. Mystery/adventure set in the boonies of French Canada in the depths of winter. Well worth a look if you can find it cheap second hand.kle4 said:
It's concentrated madness, and worth watching a stream of it at least, though likely not spending money on.Anabobazina said:
I had to look those up!kle4 said:
No love for Papers Please, the world's best paperwork checking simulator, or Hatoful Boyfriend, the dating sim between a human girl in the post apocalypse and sentient pigeons? One of these is actually good.Anabobazina said:
I hadn’t played computer games for two decades or more until my young son got a PS4.kle4 said:
I don't understand why people cannot understand the attraction. Gaming is no different to any other entertainment, yet for some it's as though there's something strange about it. Maybe it involves a skill challenge like a physical game, maybe it has a good story like a movie, it depends, it makes as little sense to not understand the appeal as to not understand why someone might like to read a book - even if not everyone would enjoy reading a book, is it hard to figure out why someone might?DavidL said:
Don’t recall that stopping him in all honesty. I enjoy bridge and chess but I’ve never got into computer games. Just never saw the attraction.Fysics_Teacher said:
Games are played by many, if not most adults: my octogenarian step-mother plays bridge for instance.DavidL said:
My son outgrew computer games about aged 13. I thought that was fairly normal.Razedabode said:
I'm enjoying assassin's creed valhalla at the moment. Not sure anything will ever top the Witcher - but Cyberpunks attention to detail is impressive (i.e. choosing the size of your genitalia)Fysics_Teacher said:
I thought Witcher 3 was one of the best games I've ever played, but I'm waiting until after Christmas when the new Xboxes are in stock again. Hopefully that way some of the bugs will be sorted.rcs1000 said:
“Cyberpunk 2077” wants to be the “Witcher 3” of crime dramas, and it very much hits that high bar in almost every regard. The writing is an engaging thrill ride that’s going to leave you wondering what’s going to happen next. Conversations flow with natural pacing, emotion and wit to stay entertaining and grounded. And they all take place in the evocative sheen and grime of a cyberpunk world. I’d leave a bar in Night City and feel like I spent some actual time in a smoky, low-lit environment for the last hour, having cigarette smoke blown in my face and smelling like whiskey. In its design, it is to 2020 what “Red Dead Redemption 2” was to 2018.MaxPB said:Gaming news - Cyberpunk 2077 has got it's reviews out, it looks amazing. From the makers of The Witcher. I'm going to get it when the PS5 patch is out.
...
It’s a good thing “Cyberpunk 2077” gets so many details right, because in its current prelaunch state, it’s … what you’d expect from a launch CDPR game. Before “Witcher 3” became the darling of the industry, it was released in a famously buggy state. “Cyberpunk 2077” continues this tradition despite seven years in development, several delays and worrying reports of overtime crunch.
Computers are just another way of playing, and games like The Witcher 3 are not just games but huge and complex stories that you can immerse yourself in.
It is also a game which explores themes that are a bit too adult for a thirteen-year old: it has an 18 certificate for a reason.
Oh boy. can I now see the appeal! The Unchartered and Assassin’s Creed series are more like immersive, interactive cinema than video games in the old sense of the term. Works of art.
@DavidL is missing out.
It's a wide field
I can see the appeal of the first one, the second one... hmm...
Sounds like a contradition, to realise it's overthought, by thinking. I do agree we overinterpret everything though.Philip_Thompson said:
Thinking about it I think this might be getting overthought.Beibheirli_C said:
Because the supplicant travels towards powerBenpointer said:Minor point in the great scheme of things but why didn't Boris get Ursula vdL to come to London?
Surely a trip to Brussels creates bad visuals for his main constituency whatever the outcome.0 -
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Pants was the word we used growing up. "Trousers" was what posh people on telly called them.Luckyguy1983 said:
I am with them on 'pants' (though obviously I wouldn't use it myself), as if underpants is correctly termed, at some point the thing that went over them must have been called pants. Or maybe to be purely British, we should drop (tee-hee) our pants and just call then breeches.dixiedean said:
Most "Americanisms" tend to be exactly like this. Usually maintaining an archaic (in UK) form (fall for autumn), or adopting a little known regional variation (pants for trousers).TimT said:
OK, a google search shows it has been around in English since 1770 at least (i.e. in British English) but that it only gained widespread use relatively recently, which would have coincided with my arrival in the US, hence my impression it was an Americanism. Seems to be language mavens view it as illogical and/or ungrammatical but acceptable.kle4 said:
I certainly use it. But perhaps such is the influence of american TV? I also used to prounced zeds and zees thanks to Sesame Street.Gallowgate said:
Since when was “one of the only” an Americanism? I’ve said that since I was a kid and I’ve never even been to the US.TimT said:
I have to say, despite all my years living in the US, I hate the Americanism "one of the only" to mean 'one of the few'rottenborough said:1st. But be warned:
"Election officials in Cobb County, the third largest county in Georgia, are planning to open fewer than half the early voting locations for the Senate runoff elections in January. It is one of the only counties in the state to make such a drastic reduction in voting access while the pandemic surges.
The county swung heavily to Democrats in the general election"
NYTimes
So, it's official, I am on old fuddy-duddy.
The use of pants to mean underpants (something I don't recall before the Eighties) still jars with me.0 -
Seriously, why the gun? I know law enforcement in the US is trained to expect danger, but really?williamglenn said:0 -
If a deal is reached, I wonder how long it will take before discussion moves back to the merits of Brexit overall. Maybe it'll give us a week
Looked it up on Steam, and I think something is wrong with their algorithm, as it states it is similar to two games I have played, which are in no way similar: Fallout 4 and Return of the Obra Din. One, a massive open world RPG with heavy combat focus and dialogue interactions across myriad plot paths made by a big big company, the other a black and white pixel game with no animations made by one guy, about piecing together clues to identify dead people on a ghost ship.Anabobazina said:
Kona is a great leftfield choice. Mystery/adventure set in the boonies of French Canada in the depths of winter. Well worth a look if you can find it cheap second hand.kle4 said:
It's concentrated madness, and worth watching a stream of it at least, though likely not spending money on.Anabobazina said:
I had to look those up!kle4 said:
No love for Papers Please, the world's best paperwork checking simulator, or Hatoful Boyfriend, the dating sim between a human girl in the post apocalypse and sentient pigeons? One of these is actually good.Anabobazina said:
I hadn’t played computer games for two decades or more until my young son got a PS4.kle4 said:
I don't understand why people cannot understand the attraction. Gaming is no different to any other entertainment, yet for some it's as though there's something strange about it. Maybe it involves a skill challenge like a physical game, maybe it has a good story like a movie, it depends, it makes as little sense to not understand the appeal as to not understand why someone might like to read a book - even if not everyone would enjoy reading a book, is it hard to figure out why someone might?DavidL said:
Don’t recall that stopping him in all honesty. I enjoy bridge and chess but I’ve never got into computer games. Just never saw the attraction.Fysics_Teacher said:
Games are played by many, if not most adults: my octogenarian step-mother plays bridge for instance.DavidL said:
My son outgrew computer games about aged 13. I thought that was fairly normal.Razedabode said:
I'm enjoying assassin's creed valhalla at the moment. Not sure anything will ever top the Witcher - but Cyberpunks attention to detail is impressive (i.e. choosing the size of your genitalia)Fysics_Teacher said:
I thought Witcher 3 was one of the best games I've ever played, but I'm waiting until after Christmas when the new Xboxes are in stock again. Hopefully that way some of the bugs will be sorted.rcs1000 said:
“Cyberpunk 2077” wants to be the “Witcher 3” of crime dramas, and it very much hits that high bar in almost every regard. The writing is an engaging thrill ride that’s going to leave you wondering what’s going to happen next. Conversations flow with natural pacing, emotion and wit to stay entertaining and grounded. And they all take place in the evocative sheen and grime of a cyberpunk world. I’d leave a bar in Night City and feel like I spent some actual time in a smoky, low-lit environment for the last hour, having cigarette smoke blown in my face and smelling like whiskey. In its design, it is to 2020 what “Red Dead Redemption 2” was to 2018.MaxPB said:Gaming news - Cyberpunk 2077 has got it's reviews out, it looks amazing. From the makers of The Witcher. I'm going to get it when the PS5 patch is out.
...
It’s a good thing “Cyberpunk 2077” gets so many details right, because in its current prelaunch state, it’s … what you’d expect from a launch CDPR game. Before “Witcher 3” became the darling of the industry, it was released in a famously buggy state. “Cyberpunk 2077” continues this tradition despite seven years in development, several delays and worrying reports of overtime crunch.
Computers are just another way of playing, and games like The Witcher 3 are not just games but huge and complex stories that you can immerse yourself in.
It is also a game which explores themes that are a bit too adult for a thirteen-year old: it has an 18 certificate for a reason.
Oh boy. can I now see the appeal! The Unchartered and Assassin’s Creed series are more like immersive, interactive cinema than video games in the old sense of the term. Works of art.
@DavidL is missing out.
It's a wide field
I can see the appeal of the first one, the second one... hmm...
Sounds like a contradition, to realise it's overthought, by thinking. I do agree we overinterpret everything though.Philip_Thompson said:
Thinking about it I think this might be getting overthought.Beibheirli_C said:
Because the supplicant travels towards powerBenpointer said:Minor point in the great scheme of things but why didn't Boris get Ursula vdL to come to London?
Surely a trip to Brussels creates bad visuals for his main constituency whatever the outcome.0 -
Please keep it briefs!dixiedean said:
Pants was the word we used growing up. "Trousers" was what posh people on telly called them.Luckyguy1983 said:
I am with them on 'pants' (though obviously I wouldn't use it myself), as if underpants is correctly termed, at some point the thing that went over them must have been called pants. Or maybe to be purely British, we should drop (tee-hee) our pants and just call then breeches.dixiedean said:
Most "Americanisms" tend to be exactly like this. Usually maintaining an archaic (in UK) form (fall for autumn), or adopting a little known regional variation (pants for trousers).TimT said:
OK, a google search shows it has been around in English since 1770 at least (i.e. in British English) but that it only gained widespread use relatively recently, which would have coincided with my arrival in the US, hence my impression it was an Americanism. Seems to be language mavens view it as illogical and/or ungrammatical but acceptable.kle4 said:
I certainly use it. But perhaps such is the influence of american TV? I also used to prounced zeds and zees thanks to Sesame Street.Gallowgate said:
Since when was “one of the only” an Americanism? I’ve said that since I was a kid and I’ve never even been to the US.TimT said:
I have to say, despite all my years living in the US, I hate the Americanism "one of the only" to mean 'one of the few'rottenborough said:1st. But be warned:
"Election officials in Cobb County, the third largest county in Georgia, are planning to open fewer than half the early voting locations for the Senate runoff elections in January. It is one of the only counties in the state to make such a drastic reduction in voting access while the pandemic surges.
The county swung heavily to Democrats in the general election"
NYTimes
So, it's official, I am on old fuddy-duddy.
The use of pants to mean underpants (something I don't recall before the Eighties) still jars with me.0 -
It doesn’t sound much like either! It’s essentially a noir mystery set in 1960s/70s Quebec. Lots of snow, not many people!kle4 said:If a deal is reached, I wonder how long it will take before discussion moves back to the merits of Brexit overall. Maybe it'll give us a week
Looked it up on Steam, and I think something is wrong with their algorithm, as it states it is similar to two games I have played, which are in no way similar: Fallout 4 and Return of the Obra Din. One, a massive open world RPG with heavy combat focus and dialogue interactions across myriad plot paths made by a big big company, the other a black and white pixel game with no animations made by one guy, about piecing together clues to identify dead people on a ghost ship.Anabobazina said:
Kona is a great leftfield choice. Mystery/adventure set in the boonies of French Canada in the depths of winter. Well worth a look if you can find it cheap second hand.kle4 said:
It's concentrated madness, and worth watching a stream of it at least, though likely not spending money on.Anabobazina said:
I had to look those up!kle4 said:
No love for Papers Please, the world's best paperwork checking simulator, or Hatoful Boyfriend, the dating sim between a human girl in the post apocalypse and sentient pigeons? One of these is actually good.Anabobazina said:
I hadn’t played computer games for two decades or more until my young son got a PS4.kle4 said:
I don't understand why people cannot understand the attraction. Gaming is no different to any other entertainment, yet for some it's as though there's something strange about it. Maybe it involves a skill challenge like a physical game, maybe it has a good story like a movie, it depends, it makes as little sense to not understand the appeal as to not understand why someone might like to read a book - even if not everyone would enjoy reading a book, is it hard to figure out why someone might?DavidL said:
Don’t recall that stopping him in all honesty. I enjoy bridge and chess but I’ve never got into computer games. Just never saw the attraction.Fysics_Teacher said:
Games are played by many, if not most adults: my octogenarian step-mother plays bridge for instance.DavidL said:
My son outgrew computer games about aged 13. I thought that was fairly normal.Razedabode said:
I'm enjoying assassin's creed valhalla at the moment. Not sure anything will ever top the Witcher - but Cyberpunks attention to detail is impressive (i.e. choosing the size of your genitalia)Fysics_Teacher said:
I thought Witcher 3 was one of the best games I've ever played, but I'm waiting until after Christmas when the new Xboxes are in stock again. Hopefully that way some of the bugs will be sorted.rcs1000 said:
“Cyberpunk 2077” wants to be the “Witcher 3” of crime dramas, and it very much hits that high bar in almost every regard. The writing is an engaging thrill ride that’s going to leave you wondering what’s going to happen next. Conversations flow with natural pacing, emotion and wit to stay entertaining and grounded. And they all take place in the evocative sheen and grime of a cyberpunk world. I’d leave a bar in Night City and feel like I spent some actual time in a smoky, low-lit environment for the last hour, having cigarette smoke blown in my face and smelling like whiskey. In its design, it is to 2020 what “Red Dead Redemption 2” was to 2018.MaxPB said:Gaming news - Cyberpunk 2077 has got it's reviews out, it looks amazing. From the makers of The Witcher. I'm going to get it when the PS5 patch is out.
...
It’s a good thing “Cyberpunk 2077” gets so many details right, because in its current prelaunch state, it’s … what you’d expect from a launch CDPR game. Before “Witcher 3” became the darling of the industry, it was released in a famously buggy state. “Cyberpunk 2077” continues this tradition despite seven years in development, several delays and worrying reports of overtime crunch.
Computers are just another way of playing, and games like The Witcher 3 are not just games but huge and complex stories that you can immerse yourself in.
It is also a game which explores themes that are a bit too adult for a thirteen-year old: it has an 18 certificate for a reason.
Oh boy. can I now see the appeal! The Unchartered and Assassin’s Creed series are more like immersive, interactive cinema than video games in the old sense of the term. Works of art.
@DavidL is missing out.
It's a wide field
I can see the appeal of the first one, the second one... hmm...
Sounds like a contradition, to realise it's overthought, by thinking. I do agree we overinterpret everything though.Philip_Thompson said:
Thinking about it I think this might be getting overthought.Beibheirli_C said:
Because the supplicant travels towards powerBenpointer said:Minor point in the great scheme of things but why didn't Boris get Ursula vdL to come to London?
Surely a trip to Brussels creates bad visuals for his main constituency whatever the outcome.0 -
According to Hannan, the reason the EU is willing to go to no deal is that they are reluctant to let go.
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Given his record of being spot on wrong about every single aspect of this, one wonders a la Sumption, why he is given air time?williamglenn said:According to Hannan, the reason the EU is willing to go to no deal is that they are reluctant to let go.
https://twitter.com/bbcnewsnight/status/1336084243194261506?s=21
I can think of about 40 posters on here, on both sides of the argument, who could claim more expertise.2 -
Google doesn't seem a very happy place to work...
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/dec/07/timnit-gebru-google-firing-resignation-ai-research0 -
A Russian businessman who was married to Vladimir Putin’s daughter received an estimated $380m (£283m) stake in a Russian petrochemicals company for just $100, an investigation by Russia’s iStories investigative outlet has claimed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/07/putins-former-son-in-law-bought-shares-worth-380m-for-100-report-says0 -
Easier for Biden to find one Cabinet spot or plum Ambassadorship for a final term Republican senator from a blue state than to find two, though.HYUFD said:I think Loeffler, who did debate, will beat Warnock even if Ossoff beats Purdue so the GOP will hold their Senate majority regardless
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Ambassador Collins xDtheoldpolitics said:
Easier for Biden to find one Cabinet spot or plum Ambassadorship for a final term Republican senator from a blue state than to find two, though.HYUFD said:I think Loeffler, who did debate, will beat Warnock even if Ossoff beats Purdue so the GOP will hold their Senate majority regardless
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https://www.toomey.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/release-toomey-statement-on-pa-federal-court-decision-congratulates-president-elect-bidenPulpstar said:
Ambassador Collins xDtheoldpolitics said:
Easier for Biden to find one Cabinet spot or plum Ambassadorship for a final term Republican senator from a blue state than to find two, though.HYUFD said:I think Loeffler, who did debate, will beat Warnock even if Ossoff beats Purdue so the GOP will hold their Senate majority regardless
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Collins and a couple of other moderate Republicans find themselves in an incredibly strong position politically. She's not going to trade it in for an admittedly very pleasant retirement job as ambassador to Japan or whatever.Pulpstar said:
Ambassador Collins xDtheoldpolitics said:
Easier for Biden to find one Cabinet spot or plum Ambassadorship for a final term Republican senator from a blue state than to find two, though.HYUFD said:I think Loeffler, who did debate, will beat Warnock even if Ossoff beats Purdue so the GOP will hold their Senate majority regardless
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Pat Toomey is a fairly staunchly conservative Republican and ex-Club For Growth president - he twice primaried the moderate Republican, Arlen Specter, who switched parties under the pressure.theoldpolitics said:
https://www.toomey.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/release-toomey-statement-on-pa-federal-court-decision-congratulates-president-elect-bidenPulpstar said:
Ambassador Collins xDtheoldpolitics said:
Easier for Biden to find one Cabinet spot or plum Ambassadorship for a final term Republican senator from a blue state than to find two, though.HYUFD said:I think Loeffler, who did debate, will beat Warnock even if Ossoff beats Purdue so the GOP will hold their Senate majority regardless
Don't confuse disliking Trump and being willing to call him out (and being on the way out himself - he'd already announced this was his final term) with being on the brink of defection or doing Joe Biden a major favour.0 -
Toomey on the other hand has already said he isn't running in 2022 anyway.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
Collins and a couple of other moderate Republicans find themselves in an incredibly strong position politically. She's not going to trade it in for an admittedly very pleasant retirement job as ambassador to Japan or whatever.Pulpstar said:
Ambassador Collins xDtheoldpolitics said:
Easier for Biden to find one Cabinet spot or plum Ambassadorship for a final term Republican senator from a blue state than to find two, though.HYUFD said:I think Loeffler, who did debate, will beat Warnock even if Ossoff beats Purdue so the GOP will hold their Senate majority regardless
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The Senate doesn't have term limits, neither does the House.theoldpolitics said:
Easier for Biden to find one Cabinet spot or plum Ambassadorship for a final term Republican senator from a blue state than to find two, though.HYUFD said:I think Loeffler, who did debate, will beat Warnock even if Ossoff beats Purdue so the GOP will hold their Senate majority regardless
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What have term limits got to do with anything? I'm talking about those who have already announced they aren't standing again (there may be others wanting a way out, of course).MaxPB said:
The Senate doesn't have term limits, neither does the House.theoldpolitics said:
Easier for Biden to find one Cabinet spot or plum Ambassadorship for a final term Republican senator from a blue state than to find two, though.HYUFD said:I think Loeffler, who did debate, will beat Warnock even if Ossoff beats Purdue so the GOP will hold their Senate majority regardless
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Well well well, the government is planning a significant look into gambling regulation. National lottery age to be raised to 18, for starters.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-552157780 -
Uber’s fraught and deadly pursuit of self-driving cars is over
Uber is selling its autonomous vehicle business to Aurora Innovations, a San Francisco-based startup founded by the former head engineer of Google’s self-driving car project, the two companies announced Monday.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/7/22158745/uber-selling-autonomous-vehicle-business-aurora-innovation
Full self driving cars are still miles away, despite the $10bns spent on the research on them.0 -
The problem the moderate Republicans have is that they are completely sidelined within their party, and are ripe for Primary challeges.SirNorfolkPassmore said:
Collins and a couple of other moderate Republicans find themselves in an incredibly strong position politically. She's not going to trade it in for an admittedly very pleasant retirement job as ambassador to Japan or whatever.Pulpstar said:
Ambassador Collins xDtheoldpolitics said:
Easier for Biden to find one Cabinet spot or plum Ambassadorship for a final term Republican senator from a blue state than to find two, though.HYUFD said:I think Loeffler, who did debate, will beat Warnock even if Ossoff beats Purdue so the GOP will hold their Senate majority regardless
Now, Ms Collins is probably immune, as she's in Blue Maine. And Toomey is on his way out, anyway.
But Ben Sasse in Nebraska (very Red) and Mitt Romney in Utah (whatever colour Mormons are) could both be primaried if they strayed too far from the party line,
There's also Murkowski, who lost a Primary challenge and then won as a write-in.0 -
Changes of this resulting in a stable government...
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https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/13360918854971760790 -
You say that like stable governments in Italy are a thing.rcs1000 said:Changes of this resulting in a stable government...
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https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/13360918854971760791 -
It’s hardly ungrammatical, though it does seem to be implying a missing logical step - ie the only counties in the state which made such a drastic reduction in voting access were those which swung to the Democrats.TimT said:
OK, a google search shows it has been around in English since 1770 at least (i.e. in British English) but that it only gained widespread use relatively recently, which would have coincided with my arrival in the US, hence my impression it was an Americanism. Seems to be language mavens view it as illogical and/or ungrammatical but acceptable.kle4 said:
I certainly use it. But perhaps such is the influence of american TV? I also used to prounced zeds and zees thanks to Sesame Street.Gallowgate said:
Since when was “one of the only” an Americanism? I’ve said that since I was a kid and I’ve never even been to the US.TimT said:
I have to say, despite all my years living in the US, I hate the Americanism "one of the only" to mean 'one of the few'rottenborough said:1st. But be warned:
"Election officials in Cobb County, the third largest county in Georgia, are planning to open fewer than half the early voting locations for the Senate runoff elections in January. It is one of the only counties in the state to make such a drastic reduction in voting access while the pandemic surges.
The county swung heavily to Democrats in the general election"
NYTimes
So, it's official, I am on old fuddy-duddy.0 -
Another minor casualty of our new customs borders.
https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-ports-brexit-customs-transition-period/0 -
"Hugo Rifkind"
Tech giants aren’t selling, they’re buying you
We need to be realistic about why internet companies are pouring astronomical sums into artificial intelligence research" (£)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/tech-giants-arent-selling-theyre-buying-you-jhqfljs5h0 -
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Isn't Anti Vaccine Scientist an Oxymoron?Nigelb said:6 -
You’d think the navigation would be the easy bit.FrancisUrquhart said:
Full self driving cars are still miles away,0 -
(CNN): Where President Donald Trump decides to spend the final weeks of his presidency has become a matter of internal speculation as aides wonder whether he'll leave the White House for the holidays -- and never return.
At this stage, there are plans for Trump to remain at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach over Christmas and New Year's, but the guidance offered to staffers ends there, people familiar with the plans said.
Trump could return to Washington for the final days on his term. But there have also been some discussions about the President and the first lady remaining in Florida and not coming back to the White House, a White House official said.0 -
Guardian: A trial is likely to go ahead in January to find out whether mixing and matching Covid vaccines gives better protection than two doses of the same one, the head of the British government’s taskforce has said.
The concept is known as a heterologous prime-boost. “It means mix and matching vaccines,” said Bingham. “So you do a prime with one vaccine and then the second – whether it’s 28 days or two months or whatever the agreed periods would be – would be with a different vaccine.”
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So now they’re nothing but a massively loss-making taxi company.FrancisUrquhart said:Uber’s fraught and deadly pursuit of self-driving cars is over
Uber is selling its autonomous vehicle business to Aurora Innovations, a San Francisco-based startup founded by the former head engineer of Google’s self-driving car project, the two companies announced Monday.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/7/22158745/uber-selling-autonomous-vehicle-business-aurora-innovation
Full self driving cars are still miles away, despite the $10bns spent on the research on them.
The sell off of the self driving car business, to another company with the same major shareholders, looks to me like the investors putting their hands in their pockets to prop up Uber for another year.
I’ll stick my neck out and say we’ll not see self-driving cars for years, except in very controlled environments.0 -
More on that “Florida data scientist raided by State Police” story:
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Time for an AV threadrcs1000 said:
There's also Murkowski, who lost a Primary challenge and then won as a write-in.0 -
Ah, to think I was probably the first on here to promote Jon Ossoff
I could see him going all the way in years to come but he does first need to win Jan 5th.
Early voting begins on Monday in both runoffs (so not really a month away).
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A propos nothing, I'm a big fan of William and Kate but why the fudgety-fudge are they traipsing around the country during a pandemic? Who the heck do they think they are? Have they not heard of setting an example?
They're really fallen in my estimation. It's self-important nonsense and totally ill-conceived.1 -
Also on a tangent, but one that SeanT might find interesting from his travels, a piece from CNN about the huge synthetic drug production in the Golden Triangle of SE Asia:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/07/asia/laos-ban-mom-port-zhao-wei-intl-hnk-dst/index.html
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Really interesting video about how electric cars will interact with classic cars in the future.
TL:DR almost everyone buying an electric car now, is doing it for the tax advantages. Classic cars that drive few miles have almost no effect on CO2 emissions.
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A rare point on which you and I agree.Mysticrose said:A propos nothing, I'm a big fan of William and Kate but why the fudgety-fudge are they traipsing around the country during a pandemic? Who the heck do they think they are? Have they not heard of setting an example?
They're really fallen in my estimation. It's self-important nonsense and totally ill-conceived.
Why on Earth are people travelling during a pandemic?2 -
RIP Chuck Yeager.
97 years, and still tweeting last week.
https://twitter.com/GenChuckYeager/status/13361501453694443520 -
RIP Chuck. One of the pioneers of aviation.Nigelb said:RIP Chuck Yeager.
97 years, and still tweeting last week.
https://twitter.com/GenChuckYeager/status/13361501453694443520 -
And WWII ace.Sandpit said:
RIP Chuck. One of the pioneers of aviation.Nigelb said:RIP Chuck Yeager.
97 years, and still tweeting last week.
https://twitter.com/GenChuckYeager/status/1336150145369444352
Brief clip of some aerobatics.
https://twitter.com/vashikoo/status/12550835913792020481 -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55223935
Millwall and QPR players to stand arm-in-arm in 'show of solidarity' before Tuesday's match
It looks like those nasty Millwall fans have won.0 -
That implies there are ‘nice’ Milwall fans.tlg86 said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55223935
Millwall and QPR players to stand arm-in-arm in 'show of solidarity' before Tuesday's match
It looks like those nasty Millwall fans have won.0 -
Incredible life even apart from test pilot heroics, helped the French Resistance to make bombs after being shot down in 1944, was one of the first to shoot down an Me 262.Nigelb said:
And WWII ace.Sandpit said:
RIP Chuck. One of the pioneers of aviation.Nigelb said:RIP Chuck Yeager.
97 years, and still tweeting last week.
https://twitter.com/GenChuckYeager/status/1336150145369444352
Brief clip of some aerobatics.
https://twitter.com/vashikoo/status/12550835913792020481 -
The one I know seems a nice enough bloke. Professional carer.ydoethur said:
That implies there are ‘nice’ Milwall fans.tlg86 said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55223935
Millwall and QPR players to stand arm-in-arm in 'show of solidarity' before Tuesday's match
It looks like those nasty Millwall fans have won.
Of course, one swallow and all that.
And Good Morning everyone. Just had a newsflash from Sky to say first Covid vaccine shot administered.0 -
In Russia, by contrast, they have threatened to shoot the first person to refuse a vaccine.OldKingCole said:
The one I know seems a nice enough bloke. Professional carer.ydoethur said:
That implies there are ‘nice’ Milwall fans.tlg86 said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55223935
Millwall and QPR players to stand arm-in-arm in 'show of solidarity' before Tuesday's match
It looks like those nasty Millwall fans have won.
Of course, one swallow and all that.
And Good Morning everyone. Just had a newsflash from Sky to say first Covid vaccine shot administered.
Edit - my personal experience of Milwall fans is that they are right scummy gits. But maybe I’ve just been unlucky in that every time I’ve been near a match I’ve only seen the ones that riot.0 -
I’m not sure if it Was it here or elsewhere that I pointed out that self driving cars isn’t a 98/2% problem but a 99.99998% / 0.00002%Sandpit said:
So now they’re nothing but a massively loss-making taxi company.FrancisUrquhart said:Uber’s fraught and deadly pursuit of self-driving cars is over
Uber is selling its autonomous vehicle business to Aurora Innovations, a San Francisco-based startup founded by the former head engineer of Google’s self-driving car project, the two companies announced Monday.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/7/22158745/uber-selling-autonomous-vehicle-business-aurora-innovation
Full self driving cars are still miles away, despite the $10bns spent on the research on them.
The sell off of the self driving car business, to another company with the same major shareholders, looks to me like the investors putting their hands in their pockets to prop up Uber for another year.
I’ll stick my neck out and say we’ll not see self-driving cars for years, except in very controlled environments.
Because automation beyond a point removes the needs for the driver to concentrate the actual point at which you can say an automated car is safe is actually far, far later than everyone thought.2 -
Salvini becomes PM of a right wing coalition. It would probably be fairly stable.rcs1000 said:Changes of this resulting in a stable government...
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https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/13360918854971760790 -
Good morning, everyone.
F1: not sure it's confirmed Hamilton's missing Abu Dhabi, though it seems likely.
Ladbrokes have the big three (Russell included) at 2.87 for the win. Albon is 81, behind Perez, Ricciardo, Ocon, and Stroll, tying with Sainz, Leclerc, Norris, and Gasly.
Just that market, so not betting yet.1 -
They're a data-harvesting company that offers a taxi service. They still haven't worked out how to monetise that data, but they are creating a shedload of it across multiple markets every single day.Sandpit said:
So now they’re nothing but a massively loss-making taxi company.FrancisUrquhart said:Uber’s fraught and deadly pursuit of self-driving cars is over
Uber is selling its autonomous vehicle business to Aurora Innovations, a San Francisco-based startup founded by the former head engineer of Google’s self-driving car project, the two companies announced Monday.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/7/22158745/uber-selling-autonomous-vehicle-business-aurora-innovation
Full self driving cars are still miles away, despite the $10bns spent on the research on them.
The sell off of the self driving car business, to another company with the same major shareholders, looks to me like the investors putting their hands in their pockets to prop up Uber for another year.
I’ll stick my neck out and say we’ll not see self-driving cars for years, except in very controlled environments.
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Lots of clubs have an element of supporters that are trouble. I think the thing with Millwall is that their troublesome element is a much larger proportion of their overall support.ydoethur said:
In Russia, by contrast, they have threatened to shoot the first person to refuse a vaccine.OldKingCole said:
The one I know seems a nice enough bloke. Professional carer.ydoethur said:
That implies there are ‘nice’ Milwall fans.tlg86 said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55223935
Millwall and QPR players to stand arm-in-arm in 'show of solidarity' before Tuesday's match
It looks like those nasty Millwall fans have won.
Of course, one swallow and all that.
And Good Morning everyone. Just had a newsflash from Sky to say first Covid vaccine shot administered.
Edit - my personal experience of Milwall fans is that they are right scummy gits. But maybe I’ve just been unlucky in that every time I’ve been near a match I’ve only seen the ones that riot.0 -
FdI are way beyond right-wing. Any government in which they form a part will be inherently unstable.MaxPB said:
Salvini becomes PM of a right wing coalition. It would probably be fairly stable.rcs1000 said:Changes of this resulting in a stable government...
Zero
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1336091885497176079
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A really nasty lot. Always have been.ydoethur said:
That implies there are ‘nice’ Milwall fans.tlg86 said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55223935
Millwall and QPR players to stand arm-in-arm in 'show of solidarity' before Tuesday's match
It looks like those nasty Millwall fans have won.0 -
And they are based close to the area where the London Press hangs out!tlg86 said:
Lots of clubs have an element of supporters that are trouble. I think the thing with Millwall is that their troublesome element is a much larger proportion of their overall support.ydoethur said:
In Russia, by contrast, they have threatened to shoot the first person to refuse a vaccine.OldKingCole said:
The one I know seems a nice enough bloke. Professional carer.ydoethur said:
That implies there are ‘nice’ Milwall fans.tlg86 said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55223935
Millwall and QPR players to stand arm-in-arm in 'show of solidarity' before Tuesday's match
It looks like those nasty Millwall fans have won.
Of course, one swallow and all that.
And Good Morning everyone. Just had a newsflash from Sky to say first Covid vaccine shot administered.
Edit - my personal experience of Milwall fans is that they are right scummy gits. But maybe I’ve just been unlucky in that every time I’ve been near a match I’ve only seen the ones that riot.
Cynical? Moi?0 -
The new kleptocrats are not just a British phenomenon. Putin is still a world beater in such things.FrancisUrquhart said:A Russian businessman who was married to Vladimir Putin’s daughter received an estimated $380m (£283m) stake in a Russian petrochemicals company for just $100, an investigation by Russia’s iStories investigative outlet has claimed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/07/putins-former-son-in-law-bought-shares-worth-380m-for-100-report-says
I am hearing interesting rumours of another Tory Minister trying to bung a contract to his mates.
The animals looked from pig to man, and man to pig, but could no longer see any difference.1 -
Indeed - the right wing commentariat describing the Millwall support as typical of ordinary football fans merely demonstrates how little the right wing commentariat knows about ordinary football fans.tlg86 said:
Lots of clubs have an element of supporters that are trouble. I think the thing with Millwall is that their troublesome element is a much larger proportion of their overall support.ydoethur said:
In Russia, by contrast, they have threatened to shoot the first person to refuse a vaccine.OldKingCole said:
The one I know seems a nice enough bloke. Professional carer.ydoethur said:
That implies there are ‘nice’ Milwall fans.tlg86 said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55223935
Millwall and QPR players to stand arm-in-arm in 'show of solidarity' before Tuesday's match
It looks like those nasty Millwall fans have won.
Of course, one swallow and all that.
And Good Morning everyone. Just had a newsflash from Sky to say first Covid vaccine shot administered.
Edit - my personal experience of Milwall fans is that they are right scummy gits. But maybe I’ve just been unlucky in that every time I’ve been near a match I’ve only seen the ones that riot.
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you mean they are all well off middle class because no one else can afford the ticket prices ?SouthamObserver said:
Indeed - the right wing commentariat describing the Millwall support as typical of ordinary football fans merely demonstrates how little the right wing commentariat knows about ordinary football fans.tlg86 said:
Lots of clubs have an element of supporters that are trouble. I think the thing with Millwall is that their troublesome element is a much larger proportion of their overall support.ydoethur said:
In Russia, by contrast, they have threatened to shoot the first person to refuse a vaccine.OldKingCole said:
The one I know seems a nice enough bloke. Professional carer.ydoethur said:
That implies there are ‘nice’ Milwall fans.tlg86 said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55223935
Millwall and QPR players to stand arm-in-arm in 'show of solidarity' before Tuesday's match
It looks like those nasty Millwall fans have won.
Of course, one swallow and all that.
And Good Morning everyone. Just had a newsflash from Sky to say first Covid vaccine shot administered.
Edit - my personal experience of Milwall fans is that they are right scummy gits. But maybe I’ve just been unlucky in that every time I’ve been near a match I’ve only seen the ones that riot.2 -
So. Clearly before social distancing became a thing.Theuniondivvie said:
Incredible life even apart from test pilot heroics, helped the French Resistance to make bombs after being shot down in 1944, was one of the first to shoot down an Me 262.Nigelb said:
And WWII ace.Sandpit said:
RIP Chuck. One of the pioneers of aviation.Nigelb said:RIP Chuck Yeager.
97 years, and still tweeting last week.
https://twitter.com/GenChuckYeager/status/1336150145369444352
Brief clip of some aerobatics.
https://twitter.com/vashikoo/status/12550835913792020480 -
They have certainly always had a reputation, they certainly did when I was a kid 40-50 years ago. "No-one likes us. We don't care".Mysticrose said:
A really nasty lot. Always have been.ydoethur said:
That implies there are ‘nice’ Milwall fans.tlg86 said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55223935
Millwall and QPR players to stand arm-in-arm in 'show of solidarity' before Tuesday's match
It looks like those nasty Millwall fans have won.0 -
Not everyone. Quite a number of us on this site have been pointing out for ages that automated cars are, for exactly this reason, still a long, long way off other than in controlled environments (e.g. motorways, perhaps). What I find it hard to fathom is why the people tasked with working on these projects and their investors seem to take so long to reach the same conclusion.eek said:
I’m not sure if it Was it here or elsewhere that I pointed out that self driving cars isn’t a 98/2% problem but a 99.99998% / 0.00002%Sandpit said:
So now they’re nothing but a massively loss-making taxi company.FrancisUrquhart said:Uber’s fraught and deadly pursuit of self-driving cars is over
Uber is selling its autonomous vehicle business to Aurora Innovations, a San Francisco-based startup founded by the former head engineer of Google’s self-driving car project, the two companies announced Monday.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/7/22158745/uber-selling-autonomous-vehicle-business-aurora-innovation
Full self driving cars are still miles away, despite the $10bns spent on the research on them.
The sell off of the self driving car business, to another company with the same major shareholders, looks to me like the investors putting their hands in their pockets to prop up Uber for another year.
I’ll stick my neck out and say we’ll not see self-driving cars for years, except in very controlled environments.
Because automation beyond a point removes the needs for the driver to concentrate the actual point at which you can say an automated car is safe is actually far, far later than everyone thought.
Edit: Next ridiculously overhyped technology: fusion power. It's very, very difficult and won't be feasible for a long time, if ever. Don't believe otherwise.1 -
Nope.Alanbrooke said:
you mean they are all well off middle class because no one else can afford the ticket prices ?SouthamObserver said:
Indeed - the right wing commentariat describing the Millwall support as typical of ordinary football fans merely demonstrates how little the right wing commentariat knows about ordinary football fans.tlg86 said:
Lots of clubs have an element of supporters that are trouble. I think the thing with Millwall is that their troublesome element is a much larger proportion of their overall support.ydoethur said:
In Russia, by contrast, they have threatened to shoot the first person to refuse a vaccine.OldKingCole said:
The one I know seems a nice enough bloke. Professional carer.ydoethur said:
That implies there are ‘nice’ Milwall fans.tlg86 said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55223935
Millwall and QPR players to stand arm-in-arm in 'show of solidarity' before Tuesday's match
It looks like those nasty Millwall fans have won.
Of course, one swallow and all that.
And Good Morning everyone. Just had a newsflash from Sky to say first Covid vaccine shot administered.
Edit - my personal experience of Milwall fans is that they are right scummy gits. But maybe I’ve just been unlucky in that every time I’ve been near a match I’ve only seen the ones that riot.
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Commercial imperatives and hype, of the type which is driving the wider AI movement more broadly. AI has proved its usefulness in certain specific areas, but it's still characterised by a fairly poor ratio of global hype to achievement up to now, purely because of the billions upon billions of dollars and pounds involved.FeersumEnjineeya said:
Not everyone. Quite a number of us on this site have been pointing out for ages that automated cars are, for exactly this reason, still a long, long way off other than in controlled environments (e.g. motorways, perhaps). What I find it hard to fathom is why the people tasked with working on these projects and their investors seem to take so long to reach the same conclusion.eek said:
I’m not sure if it Was it here or elsewhere that I pointed out that self driving cars isn’t a 98/2% problem but a 99.99998% / 0.00002%Sandpit said:
So now they’re nothing but a massively loss-making taxi company.FrancisUrquhart said:Uber’s fraught and deadly pursuit of self-driving cars is over
Uber is selling its autonomous vehicle business to Aurora Innovations, a San Francisco-based startup founded by the former head engineer of Google’s self-driving car project, the two companies announced Monday.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/7/22158745/uber-selling-autonomous-vehicle-business-aurora-innovation
Full self driving cars are still miles away, despite the $10bns spent on the research on them.
The sell off of the self driving car business, to another company with the same major shareholders, looks to me like the investors putting their hands in their pockets to prop up Uber for another year.
I’ll stick my neck out and say we’ll not see self-driving cars for years, except in very controlled environments.
Because automation beyond a point removes the needs for the driver to concentrate the actual point at which you can say an automated car is safe is actually far, far later than everyone thought.1 -
William Shakespeare has been vaccinated, second person to be vaccinated.
Only in Britain. Imagine the puns if he'd been first.1 -
Point of pedantry, lots of Britons have already been vaccinated against covid, but were in trials.Philip_Thompson said:William Shakespeare has been vaccinated, second person to be vaccinated.
Only in Britain. Imagine the puns if he'd been first.
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The one problem with the League Cup is that tickets are cheap - it allows the riff raff to get in:Alanbrooke said:
you mean they are all well off middle class because no one else can afford the ticket prices ?SouthamObserver said:
Indeed - the right wing commentariat describing the Millwall support as typical of ordinary football fans merely demonstrates how little the right wing commentariat knows about ordinary football fans.tlg86 said:
Lots of clubs have an element of supporters that are trouble. I think the thing with Millwall is that their troublesome element is a much larger proportion of their overall support.ydoethur said:
In Russia, by contrast, they have threatened to shoot the first person to refuse a vaccine.OldKingCole said:
The one I know seems a nice enough bloke. Professional carer.ydoethur said:
That implies there are ‘nice’ Milwall fans.tlg86 said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55223935
Millwall and QPR players to stand arm-in-arm in 'show of solidarity' before Tuesday's match
It looks like those nasty Millwall fans have won.
Of course, one swallow and all that.
And Good Morning everyone. Just had a newsflash from Sky to say first Covid vaccine shot administered.
Edit - my personal experience of Milwall fans is that they are right scummy gits. But maybe I’ve just been unlucky in that every time I’ve been near a match I’ve only seen the ones that riot.
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William Shakespeare from Warwickshire, no less!Philip_Thompson said:William Shakespeare has been vaccinated, second person to be vaccinated.
Only in Britain. Imagine the puns if he'd been first.
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C'mon. If your surname was Shakespeare and you had a son it would be very hard to resist the name William!SouthamObserver said:
William Shakespeare from Warwickshire, no less!Philip_Thompson said:William Shakespeare has been vaccinated, second person to be vaccinated.
Only in Britain. Imagine the puns if he'd been first.2 -
Typical that left-wing luvvies from the arts establishment have managed to elbow their way to the top of the list!Foxy said:
C'mon. If your surname was Shakespeare and you had a son it would be very hard to resist the name William!SouthamObserver said:
William Shakespeare from Warwickshire, no less!Philip_Thompson said:William Shakespeare has been vaccinated, second person to be vaccinated.
Only in Britain. Imagine the puns if he'd been first.
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Be like in the USA where it seems more common for fathers to name sons after themselves, sometimes with Roman Numerals like Martin Luther King III.Foxy said:
C'mon. If your surname was Shakespeare and you had a son it would be very hard to resist the name William!SouthamObserver said:
William Shakespeare from Warwickshire, no less!Philip_Thompson said:William Shakespeare has been vaccinated, second person to be vaccinated.
Only in Britain. Imagine the puns if he'd been first.
William Shakespeare XXIV0 -
You have this the wrong way around. What most people have failed to fathom is that an automated car does not have to work on every road in every circumstance to hold a multi trillion valuation and to provide the associated level of customer utility / societal disruption.FeersumEnjineeya said:
Not everyone. Quite a number of us on this site have been pointing out for ages that automated cars are, for exactly this reason, still a long, long way off other than in controlled environments (e.g. motorways, perhaps). What I find it hard to fathom is why the people tasked with working on these projects and their investors seem to take so long to reach the same conclusion.eek said:
I’m not sure if it Was it here or elsewhere that I pointed out that self driving cars isn’t a 98/2% problem but a 99.99998% / 0.00002%Sandpit said:
So now they’re nothing but a massively loss-making taxi company.FrancisUrquhart said:Uber’s fraught and deadly pursuit of self-driving cars is over
Uber is selling its autonomous vehicle business to Aurora Innovations, a San Francisco-based startup founded by the former head engineer of Google’s self-driving car project, the two companies announced Monday.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/7/22158745/uber-selling-autonomous-vehicle-business-aurora-innovation
Full self driving cars are still miles away, despite the $10bns spent on the research on them.
The sell off of the self driving car business, to another company with the same major shareholders, looks to me like the investors putting their hands in their pockets to prop up Uber for another year.
I’ll stick my neck out and say we’ll not see self-driving cars for years, except in very controlled environments.
Because automation beyond a point removes the needs for the driver to concentrate the actual point at which you can say an automated car is safe is actually far, far later than everyone thought.
Tesla’s current autopilot offering requires you to hold onto the wheel and stay alert and there’s plenty it still doesn’t even attempt to do. And yet an estimated third of new Tesla owners still buy the software at a price of $10k. Just wait until it “only” allows hands off - no observation driving on motorways. Quite a game changer for the value of those vehicles, and for global logistics you will agree.
Personally I think almost everyone has this wrong. I have a long standing bet that we’re going to see driverless vehicles approved somewhere before the 2022 World Cup kicks off. I expect I’ll probably now lose that bet but not by much.0 -
Could. I suggest we have a self imposed limit of only posting the same thing three times in any 24 hour period these constant identical postings and individual spats are ruining the debates.1
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There are other issues too, though, concerned with the commercially-driven overestimation of how far AI has come more broadly. The 1970s and early 1980s saw something quite similar, before expectations settled down into a more realistic pattern.moonshine said:
You have this the wrong way around. What most people have failed to fathom is that an automated car does not have to work on every road in every circumstance to hold a multi trillion valuation and to provide the associated level of customer utility / societal disruption.FeersumEnjineeya said:
Not everyone. Quite a number of us on this site have been pointing out for ages that automated cars are, for exactly this reason, still a long, long way off other than in controlled environments (e.g. motorways, perhaps). What I find it hard to fathom is why the people tasked with working on these projects and their investors seem to take so long to reach the same conclusion.eek said:
I’m not sure if it Was it here or elsewhere that I pointed out that self driving cars isn’t a 98/2% problem but a 99.99998% / 0.00002%Sandpit said:
So now they’re nothing but a massively loss-making taxi company.FrancisUrquhart said:Uber’s fraught and deadly pursuit of self-driving cars is over
Uber is selling its autonomous vehicle business to Aurora Innovations, a San Francisco-based startup founded by the former head engineer of Google’s self-driving car project, the two companies announced Monday.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/7/22158745/uber-selling-autonomous-vehicle-business-aurora-innovation
Full self driving cars are still miles away, despite the $10bns spent on the research on them.
The sell off of the self driving car business, to another company with the same major shareholders, looks to me like the investors putting their hands in their pockets to prop up Uber for another year.
I’ll stick my neck out and say we’ll not see self-driving cars for years, except in very controlled environments.
Because automation beyond a point removes the needs for the driver to concentrate the actual point at which you can say an automated car is safe is actually far, far later than everyone thought.
Tesla’s current autopilot offering requires you to hold onto the wheel and stay alert and there’s plenty it still doesn’t even attempt to do. And yet an estimated third of new Tesla owners still buy the software at a price of $10k. Just wait until it “only” allows hands off - no observation driving on motorways. Quite a game changer for the value of those vehicles, and for global logistics you will agree.
Personally I think almost everyone has this wrong. I have a long standing bet that we’re going to see driverless vehicles approved somewhere before the 2022 World Cup kicks off. I expect I’ll probably now lose that bet but not by much.0 -
I don't see why the ability to drive autonomously on motorways would be such a game-changer for logistics. You've still got to pay a driver to sit in the vehicle when it enters and leaves the motorway network. The only difference is that the driver can have a snooze while on the motorway (which itself would obviously require absolute trust in the technology).moonshine said:
You have this the wrong way around. What most people have failed to fathom is that an automated car does not have to work on every road in every circumstance to hold a multi trillion valuation and to provide the associated level of customer utility / societal disruption.FeersumEnjineeya said:
Not everyone. Quite a number of us on this site have been pointing out for ages that automated cars are, for exactly this reason, still a long, long way off other than in controlled environments (e.g. motorways, perhaps). What I find it hard to fathom is why the people tasked with working on these projects and their investors seem to take so long to reach the same conclusion.eek said:
I’m not sure if it Was it here or elsewhere that I pointed out that self driving cars isn’t a 98/2% problem but a 99.99998% / 0.00002%Sandpit said:
So now they’re nothing but a massively loss-making taxi company.FrancisUrquhart said:Uber’s fraught and deadly pursuit of self-driving cars is over
Uber is selling its autonomous vehicle business to Aurora Innovations, a San Francisco-based startup founded by the former head engineer of Google’s self-driving car project, the two companies announced Monday.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/7/22158745/uber-selling-autonomous-vehicle-business-aurora-innovation
Full self driving cars are still miles away, despite the $10bns spent on the research on them.
The sell off of the self driving car business, to another company with the same major shareholders, looks to me like the investors putting their hands in their pockets to prop up Uber for another year.
I’ll stick my neck out and say we’ll not see self-driving cars for years, except in very controlled environments.
Because automation beyond a point removes the needs for the driver to concentrate the actual point at which you can say an automated car is safe is actually far, far later than everyone thought.
Tesla’s current autopilot offering requires you to hold onto the wheel and stay alert and there’s plenty it still doesn’t even attempt to do. And yet an estimated third of new Tesla owners still buy the software at a price of $10k. Just wait until it “only” allows hands off - no observation driving on motorways. Quite a game changer for the value of those vehicles, and for global logistics you will agree.
Personally I think almost everyone has this wrong. I have a long standing bet that we’re going to see driverless vehicles approved somewhere before the 2022 World Cup kicks off. I expect I’ll probably now lose that bet but not by much.2 -
In other areas, AI has led to striking advances. Voice recognition, for example, has come on enormously over the last couple of decades, as has machine translation.WhisperingOracle said:
There are other issues too, though, concerned with the commercially-driven overestimation of how far AI has come more broadly. The 1970s and early 1980s saw something quite similar, before expectations settled down into a more realistic pattern.moonshine said:
You have this the wrong way around. What most people have failed to fathom is that an automated car does not have to work on every road in every circumstance to hold a multi trillion valuation and to provide the associated level of customer utility / societal disruption.FeersumEnjineeya said:
Not everyone. Quite a number of us on this site have been pointing out for ages that automated cars are, for exactly this reason, still a long, long way off other than in controlled environments (e.g. motorways, perhaps). What I find it hard to fathom is why the people tasked with working on these projects and their investors seem to take so long to reach the same conclusion.eek said:
I’m not sure if it Was it here or elsewhere that I pointed out that self driving cars isn’t a 98/2% problem but a 99.99998% / 0.00002%Sandpit said:
So now they’re nothing but a massively loss-making taxi company.FrancisUrquhart said:Uber’s fraught and deadly pursuit of self-driving cars is over
Uber is selling its autonomous vehicle business to Aurora Innovations, a San Francisco-based startup founded by the former head engineer of Google’s self-driving car project, the two companies announced Monday.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/7/22158745/uber-selling-autonomous-vehicle-business-aurora-innovation
Full self driving cars are still miles away, despite the $10bns spent on the research on them.
The sell off of the self driving car business, to another company with the same major shareholders, looks to me like the investors putting their hands in their pockets to prop up Uber for another year.
I’ll stick my neck out and say we’ll not see self-driving cars for years, except in very controlled environments.
Because automation beyond a point removes the needs for the driver to concentrate the actual point at which you can say an automated car is safe is actually far, far later than everyone thought.
Tesla’s current autopilot offering requires you to hold onto the wheel and stay alert and there’s plenty it still doesn’t even attempt to do. And yet an estimated third of new Tesla owners still buy the software at a price of $10k. Just wait until it “only” allows hands off - no observation driving on motorways. Quite a game changer for the value of those vehicles, and for global logistics you will agree.
Personally I think almost everyone has this wrong. I have a long standing bet that we’re going to see driverless vehicles approved somewhere before the 2022 World Cup kicks off. I expect I’ll probably now lose that bet but not by much.0 -
Who the hell is running this vaccine programme? Why didn't they make him first? Imagine the headlines.SouthamObserver said:
William Shakespeare from Warwickshire, no less!Philip_Thompson said:William Shakespeare has been vaccinated, second person to be vaccinated.
Only in Britain. Imagine the puns if he'd been first.
Just another example of the mismanagement of this crisis. 2 -
Was the great Bard a left winger? I have never really considered his politics in modern terms.SouthamObserver said:
Typical that left-wing luvvies from the arts establishment have managed to elbow their way to the top of the list!Foxy said:
C'mon. If your surname was Shakespeare and you had a son it would be very hard to resist the name William!SouthamObserver said:
William Shakespeare from Warwickshire, no less!Philip_Thompson said:William Shakespeare has been vaccinated, second person to be vaccinated.
Only in Britain. Imagine the puns if he'd been first.
I suppose a recurrent theme of his plays is how power corrupts, and brings despotism. Is he an early advocate of anarcho-syndicalism?3 -
I think that its much more likely that they will be first used in a highly controlled environment such as an airport to move people and luggage to and from fixed points with their flexibility slowly increasing from there. Cities and country roads will be too complex for a considerable time yet but they might operate in dedicated lanes in a similar way.FeersumEnjineeya said:
I don't see why the ability to drive autonomously on motorways would be such a game-changer for logistics. You've still got to pay a driver to sit in the vehicle when it enters and leaves the motorway network. The only difference is that the driver can have a snooze while on the motorway (which itself would obviously require absolute trust in the technology).moonshine said:
You have this the wrong way around. What most people have failed to fathom is that an automated car does not have to work on every road in every circumstance to hold a multi trillion valuation and to provide the associated level of customer utility / societal disruption.FeersumEnjineeya said:
Not everyone. Quite a number of us on this site have been pointing out for ages that automated cars are, for exactly this reason, still a long, long way off other than in controlled environments (e.g. motorways, perhaps). What I find it hard to fathom is why the people tasked with working on these projects and their investors seem to take so long to reach the same conclusion.eek said:
I’m not sure if it Was it here or elsewhere that I pointed out that self driving cars isn’t a 98/2% problem but a 99.99998% / 0.00002%Sandpit said:
So now they’re nothing but a massively loss-making taxi company.FrancisUrquhart said:Uber’s fraught and deadly pursuit of self-driving cars is over
Uber is selling its autonomous vehicle business to Aurora Innovations, a San Francisco-based startup founded by the former head engineer of Google’s self-driving car project, the two companies announced Monday.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/7/22158745/uber-selling-autonomous-vehicle-business-aurora-innovation
Full self driving cars are still miles away, despite the $10bns spent on the research on them.
The sell off of the self driving car business, to another company with the same major shareholders, looks to me like the investors putting their hands in their pockets to prop up Uber for another year.
I’ll stick my neck out and say we’ll not see self-driving cars for years, except in very controlled environments.
Because automation beyond a point removes the needs for the driver to concentrate the actual point at which you can say an automated car is safe is actually far, far later than everyone thought.
Tesla’s current autopilot offering requires you to hold onto the wheel and stay alert and there’s plenty it still doesn’t even attempt to do. And yet an estimated third of new Tesla owners still buy the software at a price of $10k. Just wait until it “only” allows hands off - no observation driving on motorways. Quite a game changer for the value of those vehicles, and for global logistics you will agree.
Personally I think almost everyone has this wrong. I have a long standing bet that we’re going to see driverless vehicles approved somewhere before the 2022 World Cup kicks off. I expect I’ll probably now lose that bet but not by much.1 -
Indeed, but just as in the 1970s and 1980s, these are much less challenging than the promised domestic robots that would run your house and take care of all functions. The disappointing result for many were mini Tomy robots which would wheel up and down carrying a mug of beer, until they hit unforeseen walls.FeersumEnjineeya said:
In other areas, AI has led to striking advances. Voice recognition, for example, has come on enormously over the last couple of decades, as has machine translating.WhisperingOracle said:
There are other issues too, though, concerned with the commercially-driven overestimation of how far AI has come more broadly. The 1970s and early 1980s saw something quite similar, before expectations settled down into a more realistic pattern.moonshine said:
You have this the wrong way around. What most people have failed to fathom is that an automated car does not have to work on every road in every circumstance to hold a multi trillion valuation and to provide the associated level of customer utility / societal disruption.FeersumEnjineeya said:
Not everyone. Quite a number of us on this site have been pointing out for ages that automated cars are, for exactly this reason, still a long, long way off other than in controlled environments (e.g. motorways, perhaps). What I find it hard to fathom is why the people tasked with working on these projects and their investors seem to take so long to reach the same conclusion.eek said:
I’m not sure if it Was it here or elsewhere that I pointed out that self driving cars isn’t a 98/2% problem but a 99.99998% / 0.00002%Sandpit said:
So now they’re nothing but a massively loss-making taxi company.FrancisUrquhart said:Uber’s fraught and deadly pursuit of self-driving cars is over
Uber is selling its autonomous vehicle business to Aurora Innovations, a San Francisco-based startup founded by the former head engineer of Google’s self-driving car project, the two companies announced Monday.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/7/22158745/uber-selling-autonomous-vehicle-business-aurora-innovation
Full self driving cars are still miles away, despite the $10bns spent on the research on them.
The sell off of the self driving car business, to another company with the same major shareholders, looks to me like the investors putting their hands in their pockets to prop up Uber for another year.
I’ll stick my neck out and say we’ll not see self-driving cars for years, except in very controlled environments.
Because automation beyond a point removes the needs for the driver to concentrate the actual point at which you can say an automated car is safe is actually far, far later than everyone thought.
Tesla’s current autopilot offering requires you to hold onto the wheel and stay alert and there’s plenty it still doesn’t even attempt to do. And yet an estimated third of new Tesla owners still buy the software at a price of $10k. Just wait until it “only” allows hands off - no observation driving on motorways. Quite a game changer for the value of those vehicles, and for global logistics you will agree.
Personally I think almost everyone has this wrong. I have a long standing bet that we’re going to see driverless vehicles approved somewhere before the 2022 World Cup kicks off. I expect I’ll probably now lose that bet but not by much.0
