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3 or 4 hours to Durham?SirNorfolkPassmore said:
It's not just the guidelines, it's the logic of the position.LostPassword said:
The guidelines would allow his parents to travel to collect the children, but not the other way round - but we're at the point of arguing about details and, so, yes, it may save him.eadric said:THIS may save him
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1263914724305055745?s=21
I would never conceive of taking Coronavirus into my parent's house, though.
"We were too ill to look after the kids, but not too ill to drive three or four hours to my parents".
Pure, steaming bullshit.
Breaking the speed limit too?0 -
T'was ever thus comrade.....Sunil_Prasannan said:
"Do as I say, not as I do"?BluestBlue said:
It's the easiest decision imaginable: keep the man who help secure his victory, or let him go and gratify legions of his political enemies for no reason at all.rottenborough said:
Hmm ... that is a hard one.
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kyf_100 said:
Plenty of people on this board were saying Boris would be gone within weeks at the time, and that was months ago. The police have decided there is no case to answer so it is literally time to say it went nowhere. But you keep clutching those straws if it makes you feel better at night.OllyT said:kyf_100 said:
Yep. I find it a bit of a really odd non-story.MaxPB said:Meh.
Like how people on here were convinced the Arcuri thing would lead to Bojo resigning. Where did that one go? Oh yeah, nowhere.
Very few people thought it would be the end for Boris and it's a little too early to say it went nowhere. The police have decided there is no criminal case to answer but that does mean that what he did was ethical. It hasn't completely run is course yet.
This Cummings story is the same. Of huge interest to the Westminster bubble but of little to no interest to the general public, who probably don't have a clue who Cummings is (unless they watched that thingy with Benedict Cumberbatch) and couldn't give a toss - about half of the general public having broken the lockdown in the last couple of weeks anyway.
It is a non-story in the real world.
Cummings did this at the end of March when very few were breaking the lockdown. Let's see how the papers deal with it before concluding it's a non-story.
Given the high-profile resignations of Calderwood and Fergusson the problem the government has is that if Cummings just carries on it will seem to many that there is one rule for Tories and one for rest of us. Jenrick got away with it by the skin of his teeth.
Same with Boris and the contract going to a woman he appears to have been bonking, he might get away with it and many people know that they wouldn't have got away with it. I understand that one of the reasons no action was taken was that a lot of emails for that period have been "lost".
Neither issue is critical but these things have a habit of building and I can well remember Major's government getting bogged down in these sort of issues. and we are only a few months into this government.0 -
Hold on! I'm Cummings!Jonathan said:Who are we to question the Cummings and goings of our masters?
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Sir Keir must be dreading the thought of Boris telling him, 'How dare you question your betters.'BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.1 -
I’m thinking your need to check them out is the greater....eadric said:
It’s the rules. Check em outIanB2 said:
So now you’re the expert on who is allowed to travel?eadric said:
Nonsense.AlastairMeeks said:
Farage is a journalist: he has a show on LBC. He is explicitly allowed to travel around, covering stories related to coronavirus. The government has expressly allowed this. Journalists in this field are seen as key workers, doing essential work.
Farage’s story was that the government was ignoring a migrant crisis in the Channel while they focused overly on Covid-19. His latest migrant videos have been viewed by millions, which is a lot more people than read the Guardian or the Times.
Entirely justified. Try again.
“Government gives 'key worker' status to all journalists reporting on coronavirus pandemic to the public“
https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/government-gives-key-worker-status-to-all-journalists-reporting-on-coronavirus-pandemic/0 -
I think it was probably very responsible of the Newspapers to sit on this story for a few weeks, if that's what they've done. If this had come out earlier then it might have encouraged other people to break lockdown.0
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Don't be silly. He will as soon as the 'swift explanation' has been received and dismissed as inadequate. Strategy involves thinking more than one step ahead.Nigelb said:
The leader of the opposition has made no such demand.BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.
It’s you that seems to be spoiling for a fight.0 -
They do, I've been in a few in Athens and Rome. Trastevere is full of them.dixiedean said:0 -
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1263938633771425792
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1263938806279012352
Hancock welcomed the Ferguson resignation so he pretty much has to call for Dom's0 -
No doubt a line of questioning for next PMQs is already being prepared.
Of course Starmer wants Cummings to stay.0 -
The trouble with this one is that everyone else in the country (just about) was following the rules at some considerable personal cost.BluestBlue said:
Literally _everything_ is used against Boris forever. Remember the prorogation? The unprorogation? His children? The Andrew Neil empty chair interview? The watermelon smiles? His jokey columns from 25 years ago?SirNorfolkPassmore said:
It's not for no reason.BluestBlue said:
It's the easiest decision imaginable: keep the man who help secure his victory, or let him go and gratify legions of his political enemies for no reason at all.rottenborough said:
Hmm ... that is a hard one.
If Cummings stays, it will be used against Johnson forever. It will be said that it is one rule for him, another for us. While you were in lockdown, the PM's cronies were flouting the rules etc. And those criticisms will be wholly correct.
If Cummings goes, the answer is "he did wrong and he went".
His opponents bring up everything all the time - one more won't make any difference. As Jowett said 'Never regret, never explain, never apologize', and Boris should bloody well follow that example.
All the other things you mention are, to a large extent, bubble stories. Who cares if Johnson is a shagger, for example. The problem with this is that people have had a hell of a time over the past few weeks - it's not just been a faff, it's often been financially and psychologically very painful. The Government cannot afford for people to be left with the view that it was one rule for them and another for everyone else.0 -
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Dom doesn't even make the BBC 10 o clock news. It is that inconsequential.Scott_xP said:https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1263938633771425792
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1263938806279012352
Hancock welcomed the Ferguson resignation so he pretty much has to call for Dom's1 -
Starmer is a QC. He knows when he’s onto a winner. If Cummings goes it will be forgotten about. Starmer won’t let it. Did you see Corbyn willing to interview with the Telegraph? He’s far more media aware. He’s thought about 8 steps ahead. He wants Cummings to stay as long as possible. Every week he’s there is a possibility of a reminder, This will be the gift that keeps givingBluestBlue said:
Don't be silly. He will as soon as the 'swift explanation' has been received and dismissed as inadequate. Strategy involves thinking more than one step ahead.Nigelb said:
The leader of the opposition has made no such demand.BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.
It’s you that seems to be spoiling for a fight.6 -
If Cummings is still there by the next PMQ Starmer will make mincemeat of Boris if he dares show up.BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.0 -
If rhe Grauniad had this story for six weeks why have they sat on it for that long?Scott_xP said:
I think this story would have been much bigger four to six weeks ago. Vast majority of people were taking the lockdown 100% seriously then. In recent weeks its obvious that its become normal for many people to see family and friends even if its not technically allowed.
Six weeks ago I think this story would have been outrageous, now I think it will be considered cheeky.2 -
Labour demanding an explanation was the first item on Radio 2 news just now.Mexicanpete said:
Dom doesn't even make the BBC 10 o clock news. It is that inconsequential.Scott_xP said:https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1263938633771425792
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1263938806279012352
Hancock welcomed the Ferguson resignation so he pretty much has to call for Dom's0 -
Then a calculation has to be made by the Conservatives: do Cummings' political talents as an adviser outweigh any blowback from riding out this story? I think they do by a factor of 10 or more, but others will make their own judgements.DougSeal said:
Starmer is a QC. He knows when he’s onto a winner. If Cummings goes it will be forgotten about. Starmer won’t let it. Did you see Corbyn willing to interview with the Telegraph? He’s far more media aware. He’s thought about 8 steps ahead. He wants Cummings to stay as long as possible. Every week he’s there is a possibility of a reminder, This will be the gift that keeps givingBluestBlue said:
Don't be silly. He will as soon as the 'swift explanation' has been received and dismissed as inadequate. Strategy involves thinking more than one step ahead.Nigelb said:
The leader of the opposition has made no such demand.BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.
It’s you that seems to be spoiling for a fight.0 -
Grauniad sat on this story and didn't consider it worth printing for six weeks, but the News at 10 must be nefarious for not putting it in the headlines tonight?Scott_xP said:2 -
No no - without Dom there will be a people’s referendum by Whitsun...Mexicanpete said:
Dom doesn't even make the BBC 10 o clock news. It is that inconsequential.Scott_xP said:https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1263938633771425792
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1263938806279012352
Hancock welcomed the Ferguson resignation so he pretty much has to call for Dom's1 -
I think I'm with Eadric on this one....SandyRentool said:
Typo in the last word there. It is d-i-eeadric said:Sunak is the Saviour.
Fuck lockdown. Let our people go.
We have to just go for it....I think I've got eight weeks without the pub itus...fuck it. Every which way is just shit....so at least we should be able to go to the pub down some pints, and have a decent curry after....
I'd booked tickets to Brixton Academy tonight.....I've already missed out on trips to the Etihad, New York and Italy in this period..but I think missing Hooky tonight doing Joy Division at Brixton has hit me particularly hard....
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So which motorway services did Cumstain stop off at for a slash?
How many did he put at risk there?0 -
Oh no - will Starmer also split like an amoeba and create another 164 Labour MPs? If not, he can be safely ignored for quite some time to come.OllyT said:
If Cummings is still there by the next PMQ Starmer will make mincemeat of him.BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.0 -
Horses for courses. Cummings read the mood on Brexit very well. His time at education was a lot less successful. I don’t think he’s understood the new reality.BluestBlue said:
Then a calculation has to be made by the Conservatibes: do Cummings' political talents as an advisor outweigh any blowback from riding out this story? I think they do by a factor of 10 or more, but others will make their own judgements.DougSeal said:
Starmer is a QC. He knows when he’s onto a winner. If Cummings goes it will be forgotten about. Starmer won’t let it. Did you see Corbyn willing to interview with the Telegraph? He’s far more media aware. He’s thought about 8 steps ahead. He wants Cummings to stay as long as possible. Every week he’s there is a possibility of a reminder, This will be the gift that keeps givingBluestBlue said:
Don't be silly. He will as soon as the 'swift explanation' has been received and dismissed as inadequate. Strategy involves thinking more than one step ahead.Nigelb said:
The leader of the opposition has made no such demand.BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.
It’s you that seems to be spoiling for a fight.0 -
Great insight....Cummings rubs the Tories up the wrong way much more than us lefties.....he's such an unlikeable creation....he's not going anywhere....DougSeal said:
Starmer is a QC. He knows when he’s onto a winner. If Cummings goes it will be forgotten about. Starmer won’t let it. Did you see Corbyn willing to interview with the Telegraph? He’s far more media aware. He’s thought about 8 steps ahead. He wants Cummings to stay as long as possible. Every week he’s there is a possibility of a reminder, This will be the gift that keeps givingBluestBlue said:
Don't be silly. He will as soon as the 'swift explanation' has been received and dismissed as inadequate. Strategy involves thinking more than one step ahead.Nigelb said:
The leader of the opposition has made no such demand.BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.
It’s you that seems to be spoiling for a fight.
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Did you doze off? I saw the report.Mexicanpete said:
Dom doesn't even make the BBC 10 o clock news. It is that inconsequential.Scott_xP said:https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1263938633771425792
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1263938806279012352
Hancock welcomed the Ferguson resignation so he pretty much has to call for Dom's1 -
...sorry second story but not a headline story.IshmaelZ said:
Labour demanding an explanation was the first item on Radio 2 news just now.Mexicanpete said:
Dom doesn't even make the BBC 10 o clock news. It is that inconsequential.Scott_xP said:https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1263938633771425792
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1263938806279012352
Hancock welcomed the Ferguson resignation so he pretty much has to call for Dom's0 -
BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.
Would the Fuhrer have sacked Heydrich?BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.0 -
Given your ferocious defence of Cummings I suspect you can see he is toast.BluestBlue said:
Oh no - will Starmer also split like an amoeba and created another 164 Labour MPs? If not, he can be safely ignored for quite some time to come.OllyT said:
If Cummings is still there by the next PMQ Starmer will make mincemeat of him.BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.0 -
Could you get a pint in a pub before quarantine in Saudi, then?Nigelb said:
I think there might be one or two others.Scott_xP said:
Not many pubs in Saudi Arabia, for instance...
Not sure comparing us to a moralising dictatorship with a literal fun police is the best comparsion to make your point, but hey-ho.0 -
In the same way that the tories Housing Minister is enjoying more time at home?Benpointer said:
Given your ferocious defence of Cummings I suspect you can see he is toast.BluestBlue said:
Oh no - will Starmer also split like an amoeba and created another 164 Labour MPs? If not, he can be safely ignored for quite some time to come.OllyT said:
If Cummings is still there by the next PMQ Starmer will make mincemeat of him.BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.
It's a nothing story...1 -
Dom and his wife wrote an article in the Spectator describing their illness.
That seems to contradict their travel story...
https://twitter.com/AndrewCooper__/status/12639418705577615380 -
It's not fake news though is it? Is that just the standard response to stuff we don't like now?
https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1263935353834164225?s=201 -
I feel the same. I was last at work 2 months ago. I had just come back from a holiday in Cyprus so the memory of that sustained me a bit. I did lots of work round the flat, had to have a new central heating boiler installed and was buoyed up by the fact that I am no longer spending any money so could refill my savings account. I've been working from home, but that's dried up a bit. Last weekend I realised depression was starting to set in. It's not people: I'm having lots of Skype chats and don't really need to be within 2m of anyone. It's intellectual: I need to be out and about, exploring places, getting away from my own four walls and the local towns. I know I can now go out any distance for recreation, but there's nothing to do when you get there.tyson said:
I think I'm with Eadric on this one....SandyRentool said:
Typo in the last word there. It is d-i-eeadric said:Sunak is the Saviour.
Fuck lockdown. Let our people go.
We have to just go for it....I think I've got eight weeks without the pub itus...fuck it. Every which way is just shit....so at least we should be able to go to the pub down some pints, and have a decent curry after....
I'd booked tickets to Brixton Academy tonight.....I've already missed out on trips to the Etihad, New York and Italy in this period..but I think missing Hooky tonight doing Joy Division at Brixton has hit me particularly hard....1 -
The curious thing about this is Cummings isn’t thick. He would know this would happen. He either thinks he’s untouchable or has had enough and no longer gives a shit. I guess the latter and it’s down to treasury forecasts and we should be worried.
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Not really. I don't think it's impossible that he goes, but if he goes now, it will be because they wanted to sack him anyway.Benpointer said:
Given your ferocious defence of Cummings I suspect you can see he is toast.BluestBlue said:
Oh no - will Starmer also split like an amoeba and created another 164 Labour MPs? If not, he can be safely ignored for quite some time to come.OllyT said:
If Cummings is still there by the next PMQ Starmer will make mincemeat of him.BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.0 -
I think...without going too much into gory details...he stopped off for a dump (which is likely since Covid does wonders with your inners)...and Dom would not have left the toilet seat down when he flushed....SandyRentool said:So which motorway services did Cumstain stop off at for a slash?
How many did he put at risk there?
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Laughable.Scott_xP said:
The Gruaniad sat on it for six weeks, and the BBC is what these lunatics are frothing about? God forbid the BBC quotes both sides of a story that the Grauniad eventually thinks its worth publishing.1 -
Anne Franks diary would have been a short pamphlet in Durham - snitch central 🤪1
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Oops, top story in ITN.0
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Cruel Intentions has one of the greatest lines in cinema. If you've seen it you'll know what I'm talking about.Nigelb said:
It is.AlastairMeeks said:
Pleasantville is a charming film.TheScreamingEagles said:
You've never watched Legally Blonde (and Legally Blonde 2)?Toms said:
Yuck.TimT said:
Thank you for the correction(s).MyBurningEars said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gAc6aNoNLMTimT said:
No. Hollywood does that just as well. Caught DUI behind the wheel, Reese Witherspoon used those precise words with her arresting officer.Toms said:We're in
"Do you know who I am?"
territory.
It happens a lot with our politicians.
Are we unusual in that? For instance is it class based?
Careful with what you say there!* She was the passenger, it was her husband who was being stopped for suspected DUI.
A slight difference in wording, but for afficionadoes of these things, I liked how "Do you know my name?" was followed by "You're about to find out who I am!"
* She might sue you for getting that wrong, she's an American citizen don't you know!
Until now I, for one, had never heard of Reese Witherspoon.
You're missing out.
Ditto Big Little Lies.
And, of course, Election and Cruel Intentions.
She was event decent in The Importance of Being Earnest.
On that subject, Cummings has to go. Part of me hopes he stays so the government can be tortured over the hypocrisy and born to rule arrogance of it for weeks on end. But really we don't need this kind of distraction when we are in the middle of a public health emergency and the public need to be able to trust the government.0 -
Really? I’m reminded of the story told about the Molotov and Ribbentrop talks in Berlin in November 1940 when the latter told the former that BrItain was finished as a power, and Molotov replied by asking why then they were having the conversation in an air raid shelter? Similarly, why, if Starmer can safely be ignored, has the immigrant tax on care workers been scrapped this week?BluestBlue said:
Oh no - will Starmer also split like an amoeba and create another 164 Labour MPs? If not, he can be safely ignored for quite some time to come.OllyT said:
If Cummings is still there by the next PMQ Starmer will make mincemeat of him.BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.1 -
Time for lockdown to endeadric said:
As of today, everyone I know under 40 either wants lockdown to end, or is now totally ignoring lockdownJohnLilburne said:
I feel the same. I was last at work 2 months ago. I had just come back from a holiday in Cyprus so the memory of that sustained me a bit. I did lots of work round the flat, had to have a new central heating boiler installed and was buoyed up by the fact that I am no longer spending any money so could refill my savings account. I've been working from home, but that's dried up a bit. Last weekend I realised depression was starting to set in. It's not people: I'm having lots of Skype chats and don't really need to be within 2m of anyone. It's intellectual: I need to be out and about, exploring places, getting away from my own four walls and the local towns. I know I can now go out any distance for recreation, but there's nothing to do when you get there.tyson said:
I think I'm with Eadric on this one....SandyRentool said:
Typo in the last word there. It is d-i-eeadric said:Sunak is the Saviour.
Fuck lockdown. Let our people go.
We have to just go for it....I think I've got eight weeks without the pub itus...fuck it. Every which way is just shit....so at least we should be able to go to the pub down some pints, and have a decent curry after....
I'd booked tickets to Brixton Academy tonight.....I've already missed out on trips to the Etihad, New York and Italy in this period..but I think missing Hooky tonight doing Joy Division at Brixton has hit me particularly hard....
Lots of over-40s as well
Stop the furlough
Get back to work
Open the pubs!2 -
Exactly...you reach somewhere...and then, a nice pint (no), a meal (no), a film (no), a gig (no), a coffee (no) anything else (no).....it's time to go home.....and then same again tomorrow, and the day afterJohnLilburne said:
I feel the same. I was last at work 2 months ago. I had just come back from a holiday in Cyprus so the memory of that sustained me a bit. I did lots of work round the flat, had to have a new central heating boiler installed and was buoyed up by the fact that I am no longer spending any money so could refill my savings account. I've been working from home, but that's dried up a bit. Last weekend I realised depression was starting to set in. It's not people: I'm having lots of Skype chats and don't really need to be within 2m of anyone. It's intellectual: I need to be out and about, exploring places, getting away from my own four walls and the local towns. I know I can now go out any distance for recreation, but there's nothing to do when you get there.tyson said:
I think I'm with Eadric on this one....SandyRentool said:
Typo in the last word there. It is d-i-eeadric said:Sunak is the Saviour.
Fuck lockdown. Let our people go.
We have to just go for it....I think I've got eight weeks without the pub itus...fuck it. Every which way is just shit....so at least we should be able to go to the pub down some pints, and have a decent curry after....
I'd booked tickets to Brixton Academy tonight.....I've already missed out on trips to the Etihad, New York and Italy in this period..but I think missing Hooky tonight doing Joy Division at Brixton has hit me particularly hard....
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"... he isn't going nowhere." Where is he going then?Theuniondivvie said:It's not fake news though is it? Is that just the standard response to stuff we don't like now?
https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1263935353834164225?s=200 -
Assuming the tweeter is in the UK that moth is a very long way from home.eadric said:For the moth-lovers of PB
https://twitter.com/reblavoie/status/1263583520233893895?s=21
I believe it is the Rosy Maple Moth whose range is normally the other side of the Atlantic.
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You know lots of dickheads.eadric said:
As of today, everyone I know under 40 either wants lockdown to end, or is now totally ignoring lockdownJohnLilburne said:
I feel the same. I was last at work 2 months ago. I had just come back from a holiday in Cyprus so the memory of that sustained me a bit. I did lots of work round the flat, had to have a new central heating boiler installed and was buoyed up by the fact that I am no longer spending any money so could refill my savings account. I've been working from home, but that's dried up a bit. Last weekend I realised depression was starting to set in. It's not people: I'm having lots of Skype chats and don't really need to be within 2m of anyone. It's intellectual: I need to be out and about, exploring places, getting away from my own four walls and the local towns. I know I can now go out any distance for recreation, but there's nothing to do when you get there.tyson said:
I think I'm with Eadric on this one....SandyRentool said:
Typo in the last word there. It is d-i-eeadric said:Sunak is the Saviour.
Fuck lockdown. Let our people go.
We have to just go for it....I think I've got eight weeks without the pub itus...fuck it. Every which way is just shit....so at least we should be able to go to the pub down some pints, and have a decent curry after....
I'd booked tickets to Brixton Academy tonight.....I've already missed out on trips to the Etihad, New York and Italy in this period..but I think missing Hooky tonight doing Joy Division at Brixton has hit me particularly hard....
Lots of over-40s as well0 -
The Mail have put this story on their front page (though not the headline).0
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I wouldn't have scrapped it simply because he asked for it, but the polling showed it was a popular decision and it didn't cost very much so I'm not going to cry about it. Dumping Cummings is a much weightier decision that should not be gifted to the Opposition, many of whom will see his scalp as a great victory, whatever Starmer's personal strategic calculations.DougSeal said:
Really? I’m reminded of the story told about the Molotov and Ribbentrop talks in Berlin in November 1940 when the latter told the former that BrItain was finished as a power, and Molotov replied by asking why then they were having the conversation in an air raid shelter? Similarly, why, if Starmer can safely be ignored, has the immigrant tax on care workers been scrapped this week?BluestBlue said:
Oh no - will Starmer also split like an amoeba and create another 164 Labour MPs? If not, he can be safely ignored for quite some time to come.OllyT said:
If Cummings is still there by the next PMQ Starmer will make mincemeat of him.BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.0 -
A BoJo fan boy speaks.Philip_Thompson said:
Laughable.Scott_xP said:
The Gruaniad sat on it for six weeks, and the BBC is what these lunatics are frothing about? God forbid the BBC quotes both sides of a story that the Grauniad eventually thinks its worth publishing.0 -
This was said about Trump and Bannon.Scott_xP said:
He is untouchable.Jonathan said:The curious thing about this is Cummings isn’t thick. He would know this would happen. He either thinks he’s untouchable
BoZo works for him...
These people are masters of the universe until the moment the elected leader brings them in and says, "the benefit of your services no longer outweighs the costs".0 -
If that's all you want then travel is pointless anyway.tyson said:
Exactly...you reach somewhere...and then, a nice pint (no), a meal (no), a film (no), a gig (no), a coffee (no) anything else (no).....it's time to go home.....and then same again tomorrow, and the day afterJohnLilburne said:
I feel the same. I was last at work 2 months ago. I had just come back from a holiday in Cyprus so the memory of that sustained me a bit. I did lots of work round the flat, had to have a new central heating boiler installed and was buoyed up by the fact that I am no longer spending any money so could refill my savings account. I've been working from home, but that's dried up a bit. Last weekend I realised depression was starting to set in. It's not people: I'm having lots of Skype chats and don't really need to be within 2m of anyone. It's intellectual: I need to be out and about, exploring places, getting away from my own four walls and the local towns. I know I can now go out any distance for recreation, but there's nothing to do when you get there.tyson said:
I think I'm with Eadric on this one....SandyRentool said:
Typo in the last word there. It is d-i-eeadric said:Sunak is the Saviour.
Fuck lockdown. Let our people go.
We have to just go for it....I think I've got eight weeks without the pub itus...fuck it. Every which way is just shit....so at least we should be able to go to the pub down some pints, and have a decent curry after....
I'd booked tickets to Brixton Academy tonight.....I've already missed out on trips to the Etihad, New York and Italy in this period..but I think missing Hooky tonight doing Joy Division at Brixton has hit me particularly hard....0 -
The real scandal is the lockdown - absolute insult to freedom - man sits in car to visit parents - BURN THE WITCH.DougSeal said:
This site is full of them. The amount of moralising that goes on.TGOHF666 said:Anne Franks diary would have been a short pamphlet in Durham - snitch central 🤪
At least the USA has a sense of freedom left in its bones.1 -
Yeah - and? Deal with the message not the messenger, you're a Boris critic but I don't dismiss whatever you write on that basis.MikeSmithson said:
A BoJo fan boy speaks.Philip_Thompson said:
Laughable.Scott_xP said:
The Gruaniad sat on it for six weeks, and the BBC is what these lunatics are frothing about? God forbid the BBC quotes both sides of a story that the Grauniad eventually thinks its worth publishing.
Why did the Grauniad sit on it for six weeks?0 -
Whatever the strength of her argument, she has ruined it by signing off with “end of”.AlastairMeeks said:2 -
I've never had much belief in politicians.....but Keir has something about him...I really like him, and I've never been able to say that about any politician in my memory...doubtless he will disappoint, but at the moment he isn't....DougSeal said:
Really? I’m reminded of the story told about the Molotov and Ribbentrop talks in Berlin in November 1940 when the latter told the former that BrItain was finished as a power, and Molotov replied by asking why then they were having the conversation in an air raid shelter? Similarly, why, if Starmer can safely be ignored, has the immigrant tax on care workers been scrapped this week?BluestBlue said:
Oh no - will Starmer also split like an amoeba and create another 164 Labour MPs? If not, he can be safely ignored for quite some time to come.OllyT said:
If Cummings is still there by the next PMQ Starmer will make mincemeat of him.BluestBlue said:
The only thing that will damage the Government will be giving in to every petty Opposition demand. Time to show some strength and tell them where to stuff it.DougSeal said:
Oh come on! PB Tories have been routinely slagging their neighbours off with tales of minor lockdown naughtiness. All of a sudden, when it’s this fucker of all people, it’s a “very natural, human mistake”. It’s not like he failed to observe correct social distancing by 8 inches in Tescos. He wasn’t a bored teenager playing football in the park with his mates. He’s a senior government advisor, who helps set the policy he breached, who travelled (allegedly on public transport, on public transport FFS) from one end of England to another, at a relatively early stage in the outbreak, when he knew he was suffering from the virus, highly infectious, and part of a government that had, only a week before, told people not to do this very thing.BluestBlue said:
If they're not tiny babies, they'll see that he made a very natural, human mistake and will at least understand the impulse. Seeing as the police took no action against him whatsoever, it's a non-story.OllyT said:
You think all those people who have been unable to visit parents, attend funerals, see grandchildren for months are going to shrug it off because Cummings is an he's important Tory and he should be allowed to do what we can't?BluestBlue said:
No, no, no. This sort of weakness is what debilitates governments; brashness makes them invincible. Just brush it off and say that the matter had been dealt with and is now closed. The end.Big_G_NorthWales said:
To be honest if he travelled 250 miles on public transport knowing he had covid he must go. No ifs or butsydoethur said:
Hmmm.Mexicanpete said:
The police have spoken to him. He did the crime, he served his time.Gardenwalker said:PB Tories not exactly lining up to defend their (mad)man.
Jenrick survived so should Dom.
While Jenrick was undoubtedly a fool, and was lucky to survive, the fact Himself was a carrier of coronavirus and had every reason to suspect he might be puts this on a different level.
The fact that he’s a stuck up third rate Oedipus Complexer whom nobody likes isn’t exactly going to help him either.
I don’t give a toss if he resigns or not but people are not going to think this is a “natural, human mistake”. This guy sets policy. He will be held to a higher standard. If he stays it will damage the Government. Their call.
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Allies and friends support their man shocker.Theuniondivvie said:It's not fake news though is it? Is that just the standard response to stuff we don't like now?
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Be a turn up for the books if a newspaper sued an individual for defamation.DougSeal said:
Allies and friends support their man shocker.Theuniondivvie said:It's not fake news though is it? Is that just the standard response to stuff we don't like now?
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I'm quite a long way the wrong side of 40, indeed contemplating retirement in a few years. At least this has taught me I need to have things to do when that happens, and how long I can put up with just pottering around. Problem is I am technically higher risk: I have a congenital heart condition which normally causes me no problems at all. I think I would probably sail through it, I am fit, healthy, have a BMI under 21 and run. But I just don't know. In the short term it seems sensible to play safe, especially as most of my friends are also doing so. But it can't go on forever. At some time, I need to be able to assess that risk level.eadric said:
As of today, everyone I know under 40 either wants lockdown to end, or is now totally ignoring lockdownJohnLilburne said:
I feel the same. I was last at work 2 months ago. I had just come back from a holiday in Cyprus so the memory of that sustained me a bit. I did lots of work round the flat, had to have a new central heating boiler installed and was buoyed up by the fact that I am no longer spending any money so could refill my savings account. I've been working from home, but that's dried up a bit. Last weekend I realised depression was starting to set in. It's not people: I'm having lots of Skype chats and don't really need to be within 2m of anyone. It's intellectual: I need to be out and about, exploring places, getting away from my own four walls and the local towns. I know I can now go out any distance for recreation, but there's nothing to do when you get there.tyson said:
I think I'm with Eadric on this one....SandyRentool said:
Typo in the last word there. It is d-i-eeadric said:Sunak is the Saviour.
Fuck lockdown. Let our people go.
We have to just go for it....I think I've got eight weeks without the pub itus...fuck it. Every which way is just shit....so at least we should be able to go to the pub down some pints, and have a decent curry after....
I'd booked tickets to Brixton Academy tonight.....I've already missed out on trips to the Etihad, New York and Italy in this period..but I think missing Hooky tonight doing Joy Division at Brixton has hit me particularly hard....
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Yep. That's why they are queueing round the block to buy guns and ammo.TGOHF666 said:
The real scandal is the lockdown - absolute insult to freedom - man sits in car to visit parents - BURN THE WITCH.DougSeal said:
This site is full of them. The amount of moralising that goes on.TGOHF666 said:Anne Franks diary would have been a short pamphlet in Durham - snitch central 🤪
At least the USA has a sense of freedom left in its bones.0 -
Uh oh
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1263946175817842688
If Laura is tweeting this, just might be critical...0 -
Lockdown should have been released a week or so ago.
We locked down far too late due to Boris’s laziness and some duff advice perhaps from the scientists - at the cost of several thousands of lives.
Now we are unlocking too late, at the cost of several thousands of jobs. No wonder Rishi is on manoeuvres.
Cummings is a sideshow, really.2 -
I think the six week delay arises from fear of being sued if they have got it wrong.Philip_Thompson said:
If rhe Grauniad had this story for six weeks why have they sat on it for that long?Scott_xP said:
I think this story would have been much bigger four to six weeks ago. Vast majority of people were taking the lockdown 100% seriously then. In recent weeks its obvious that its become normal for many people to see family and friends even if its not technically allowed.
Six weeks ago I think this story would have been outrageous, now I think it will be considered cheeky.
https://twitter.com/archiebland/status/1263940146900205569?s=200 -
'Some' Tory MPs ... out of 365. Critical stuff indeed.Scott_xP said:Uh oh
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1263946175817842688
If Laura is tweeting this, just might be critical...0 -
My under 40 colleagues and relatives are doing the right thing.eadric said:
Maybe. But you don’t know many people under 40, because I’m rightSandyRentool said:
You know lots of dickheads.eadric said:
As of today, everyone I know under 40 either wants lockdown to end, or is now totally ignoring lockdownJohnLilburne said:
I feel the same. I was last at work 2 months ago. I had just come back from a holiday in Cyprus so the memory of that sustained me a bit. I did lots of work round the flat, had to have a new central heating boiler installed and was buoyed up by the fact that I am no longer spending any money so could refill my savings account. I've been working from home, but that's dried up a bit. Last weekend I realised depression was starting to set in. It's not people: I'm having lots of Skype chats and don't really need to be within 2m of anyone. It's intellectual: I need to be out and about, exploring places, getting away from my own four walls and the local towns. I know I can now go out any distance for recreation, but there's nothing to do when you get there.tyson said:
I think I'm with Eadric on this one....SandyRentool said:
Typo in the last word there. It is d-i-eeadric said:Sunak is the Saviour.
Fuck lockdown. Let our people go.
We have to just go for it....I think I've got eight weeks without the pub itus...fuck it. Every which way is just shit....so at least we should be able to go to the pub down some pints, and have a decent curry after....
I'd booked tickets to Brixton Academy tonight.....I've already missed out on trips to the Etihad, New York and Italy in this period..but I think missing Hooky tonight doing Joy Division at Brixton has hit me particularly hard....
Lots of over-40s as well0 -
Good answer. Makes sense.Benpointer said:
I think the six week delay arises from fear of being sued if they have got it wrong.Philip_Thompson said:
If rhe Grauniad had this story for six weeks why have they sat on it for that long?Scott_xP said:
I think this story would have been much bigger four to six weeks ago. Vast majority of people were taking the lockdown 100% seriously then. In recent weeks its obvious that its become normal for many people to see family and friends even if its not technically allowed.
Six weeks ago I think this story would have been outrageous, now I think it will be considered cheeky.
https://twitter.com/archiebland/status/1263940146900205569?s=200 -
Whilst I think Cummings is in trouble on this and it's a deeply damaging story, I don't think this is the reason.Scott_xP said:Uh oh
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1263946175817842688
If Laura is tweeting this, just might be critical...
You'll always find good number of MPs willing to throw the their party leader's unelected confidant under a bus, whether it's deserved (as in this case) or not.0 -
I don’t have a second home; I haven’t been able to visit my elderly widowed father for eight weeks; I have complied with the Covid-19 regulations even though I don’t like them. Why is a senior adviser to the Prime Minister allowed to travel miles and miles, whilst symptomatic, seemingly in clear breach of the law? If true, why are the rules only for us little people? That’s the dangerous element for the Government.8
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"...and it's ON MY DECK" probably gives it away as an American tweeter.Richard_Tyndall said:
Assuming the tweeter is in the UK that moth is a very long way from home.eadric said:For the moth-lovers of PB
https://twitter.com/reblavoie/status/1263583520233893895?s=21
I believe it is the Rosy Maple Moth whose range is normally the other side of the Atlantic.
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Yes...that sums it up...I Iike to walk (sometimes with the dog), listen to music and stop off for a beer, or a nice lunch, catch a movie and sleep in my own bed...and read...SandyRentool said:
If that's all you want then travel is pointless anyway.tyson said:
Exactly...you reach somewhere...and then, a nice pint (no), a meal (no), a film (no), a gig (no), a coffee (no) anything else (no).....it's time to go home.....and then same again tomorrow, and the day afterJohnLilburne said:
I feel the same. I was last at work 2 months ago. I had just come back from a holiday in Cyprus so the memory of that sustained me a bit. I did lots of work round the flat, had to have a new central heating boiler installed and was buoyed up by the fact that I am no longer spending any money so could refill my savings account. I've been working from home, but that's dried up a bit. Last weekend I realised depression was starting to set in. It's not people: I'm having lots of Skype chats and don't really need to be within 2m of anyone. It's intellectual: I need to be out and about, exploring places, getting away from my own four walls and the local towns. I know I can now go out any distance for recreation, but there's nothing to do when you get there.tyson said:
I think I'm with Eadric on this one....SandyRentool said:
Typo in the last word there. It is d-i-eeadric said:Sunak is the Saviour.
Fuck lockdown. Let our people go.
We have to just go for it....I think I've got eight weeks without the pub itus...fuck it. Every which way is just shit....so at least we should be able to go to the pub down some pints, and have a decent curry after....
I'd booked tickets to Brixton Academy tonight.....I've already missed out on trips to the Etihad, New York and Italy in this period..but I think missing Hooky tonight doing Joy Division at Brixton has hit me particularly hard....
Covid 19 is only restricting a few of these options....
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The ridiculous thing is that the only place you can buy a pint is a beach bar. And it’s almost always shite, bog standard, lager. I think I got a pint of Beavertown Neck Oil in Southwold once. Otherwise, it’s Heineken.0
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Yeah, but it's shite support.DougSeal said:
Allies and friends support their man shocker.Theuniondivvie said:It's not fake news though is it? Is that just the standard response to stuff we don't like now?
https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1263935353834164225?s=20
Even the pitiful 'minor transgression, natural human mistake' crap on here is better than 'stuff definitely happened but we'll call it fake news, that'll sort it'.0 -
Just booked a transatlantic trip on QM2 for next May. Figured CV-19 will either be under control by then or the trip will be cancelled and we'll get our money back.
Prices for the grill suites are pretty good atm.
Brave or foolish? - time will tell.0 -
I feel pretty confident that Dominic Cummings would agree there are situations where even where there may have been no wrongdoing, someone can foolishly do something that allows opponents, and others, to exploit that situation.
So while the facts one way or another will affect how it will all play out (that is, it does matter what precisely was done and how), he's provided an opportunity. SirNorfolk is likely correct that there's always people willing to go after the unelected confidants (which as he noted doesn't mean it cannot be deserved) and I cannot help but think that his reported approach and attitude on his way up to his position, and how he acts while there, will be quite relevant on if, and how, he goes down.0 -
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Oh I'm doing the right thing. But stir crazyness is setting in.SandyRentool said:
My under 40 colleagues and relatives are doing the right thing.eadric said:
Maybe. But you don’t know many people under 40, because I’m rightSandyRentool said:
You know lots of dickheads.eadric said:
As of today, everyone I know under 40 either wants lockdown to end, or is now totally ignoring lockdownJohnLilburne said:
I feel the same. I was last at work 2 months ago. I had just come back from a holiday in Cyprus so the memory of that sustained me a bit. I did lots of work round the flat, had to have a new central heating boiler installed and was buoyed up by the fact that I am no longer spending any money so could refill my savings account. I've been working from home, but that's dried up a bit. Last weekend I realised depression was starting to set in. It's not people: I'm having lots of Skype chats and don't really need to be within 2m of anyone. It's intellectual: I need to be out and about, exploring places, getting away from my own four walls and the local towns. I know I can now go out any distance for recreation, but there's nothing to do when you get there.tyson said:
I think I'm with Eadric on this one....SandyRentool said:
Typo in the last word there. It is d-i-eeadric said:Sunak is the Saviour.
Fuck lockdown. Let our people go.
We have to just go for it....I think I've got eight weeks without the pub itus...fuck it. Every which way is just shit....so at least we should be able to go to the pub down some pints, and have a decent curry after....
I'd booked tickets to Brixton Academy tonight.....I've already missed out on trips to the Etihad, New York and Italy in this period..but I think missing Hooky tonight doing Joy Division at Brixton has hit me particularly hard....
Lots of over-40s as well0 -
Floating lockdown. Interesting choice!Benpointer said:Just booked a transatlantic trip on QM2 for next May. Figured CV-19 will either be under control by then or the trip will be cancelled and we'll get our money back.
Prices for the grill suites are pretty good atm.
Brave or foolish - time will tell.
Night all.0 -
I haven't seen peoples responses in this thread.OldBasing said:I don’t have a second home; I haven’t been able to visit my elderly widowed father for eight weeks; I have complied with the Covid-19 regulations even though I don’t like them. Why is a senior adviser to the Prime Minister allowed to travel miles and miles, whilst symptomatic, seemingly in clear breach of the law? If true, why are the rules only for us little people? That’s the dangerous element for the Government.
Presume PB Tory ultras are defending the indefensible?0 -
Yes it is, and it's always easy to spot when it is a genuine accusation of incorrect reporting, and when it is a deflection regardless of whether something has been proven beyond a doubt.Theuniondivvie said:It's not fake news though is it? Is that just the standard response to stuff we don't like now?
https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1263935353834164225?s=20
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I am not sure replying to every post critical of your party with variations on the theme of “Who cares? Look at our MAHOOOSIVE majority!” will win you many arguments or converts. It may even lose you some.BluestBlue said:
'Some' Tory MPs ... out of 365. Critical stuff indeed.Scott_xP said:Uh oh
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1263946175817842688
If Laura is tweeting this, just might be critical...0 -
Today:Scott_xP said:Uh oh
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1263946175817842688
If Laura is tweeting this, just might be critical...
a) No summer holiday abroad
b) Members of the government could visit parents, the rest of you couldn't.
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Moderate Tories like me aren't getting too excited over this.bigjohnowls said:
I haven't seen peoples responses in this thread.OldBasing said:I don’t have a second home; I haven’t been able to visit my elderly widowed father for eight weeks; I have complied with the Covid-19 regulations even though I don’t like them. Why is a senior adviser to the Prime Minister allowed to travel miles and miles, whilst symptomatic, seemingly in clear breach of the law? If true, why are the rules only for us little people? That’s the dangerous element for the Government.
Presume PB Tory ultras are defending the indefensible?2 -
That is what defines an ultra, so the question is a little strange. Surely it would be whether the usually or generally loyal are doing so which would be significant?bigjohnowls said:
I haven't seen peoples responses in this thread.OldBasing said:I don’t have a second home; I haven’t been able to visit my elderly widowed father for eight weeks; I have complied with the Covid-19 regulations even though I don’t like them. Why is a senior adviser to the Prime Minister allowed to travel miles and miles, whilst symptomatic, seemingly in clear breach of the law? If true, why are the rules only for us little people? That’s the dangerous element for the Government.
Presume PB Tory ultras are defending the indefensible?0 -
Weren't 'some' Tory MPs uneasy about the NHS surcharge applying to NHS workers before that got u-turned?BluestBlue said:
'Some' Tory MPs ... out of 365. Critical stuff indeed.Scott_xP said:Uh oh
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1263946175817842688
If Laura is tweeting this, just might be critical...1 -
Benpointer said:
Just booked a transatlantic trip on QM2 for next May. Figured CV-19 will either be under control by then or the trip will be cancelled and we'll get our money back.
Prices for the grill suites are pretty good atm.
Brave or foolish? - time will tell.
Enjoy your trip on a huge polluting hunk of metal that pollutes the oceans....
I fucking hate cruise ships and everything about them....0 -
Floating lockdown... with bars, restaurants and entertainment.SandyRentool said:
Floating lockdown. Interesting choice!Benpointer said:Just booked a transatlantic trip on QM2 for next May. Figured CV-19 will either be under control by then or the trip will be cancelled and we'll get our money back.
Prices for the grill suites are pretty good atm.
Brave or foolish - time will tell.
Night all.
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There will be exceptions of course, but I feel like sometimes the vague aggressiveness of a response can often be a good indicator of weakness, as positions of strength allow for an amused, confident or bland dismissal, backed with good arguments. It will be fun to see how the arguments on this one develop. Dom loves attention, we'll see what he can come up with, and how persuasively.Theuniondivvie said:
Yeah, but it's shite support.DougSeal said:
Allies and friends support their man shocker.Theuniondivvie said:It's not fake news though is it? Is that just the standard response to stuff we don't like now?
https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1263935353834164225?s=20
Even the pitiful 'minor transgression, natural human mistake' crap on here is better than 'stuff definitely happened but we'll call it fake news, that'll sort it'.0 -
Doing your bit for the economy. I salute you.Benpointer said:Just booked a transatlantic trip on QM2 for next May. Figured CV-19 will either be under control by then or the trip will be cancelled and we'll get our money back.
Prices for the grill suites are pretty good atm.
Brave or foolish? - time will tell.
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It's f*cking explosive.OldBasing said:I don’t have a second home; I haven’t been able to visit my elderly widowed father for eight weeks; I have complied with the Covid-19 regulations even though I don’t like them. Why is a senior adviser to the Prime Minister allowed to travel miles and miles, whilst symptomatic, seemingly in clear breach of the law? If true, why are the rules only for us little people? That’s the dangerous element for the Government.
What I don't understand is why these people think they wont be found out?
I sort of get an academic making a tit of himself because he probably doesn't yet realise what being in the public eye means, but Dom Cummings? Give me a break.0 -
The Right thing?SandyRentool said:
My under 40 colleagues and relatives are doing the right thing.eadric said:
Maybe. But you don’t know many people under 40, because I’m rightSandyRentool said:
You know lots of dickheads.eadric said:
As of today, everyone I know under 40 either wants lockdown to end, or is now totally ignoring lockdownJohnLilburne said:
I feel the same. I was last at work 2 months ago. I had just come back from a holiday in Cyprus so the memory of that sustained me a bit. I did lots of work round the flat, had to have a new central heating boiler installed and was buoyed up by the fact that I am no longer spending any money so could refill my savings account. I've been working from home, but that's dried up a bit. Last weekend I realised depression was starting to set in. It's not people: I'm having lots of Skype chats and don't really need to be within 2m of anyone. It's intellectual: I need to be out and about, exploring places, getting away from my own four walls and the local towns. I know I can now go out any distance for recreation, but there's nothing to do when you get there.tyson said:
I think I'm with Eadric on this one....SandyRentool said:
Typo in the last word there. It is d-i-eeadric said:Sunak is the Saviour.
Fuck lockdown. Let our people go.
We have to just go for it....I think I've got eight weeks without the pub itus...fuck it. Every which way is just shit....so at least we should be able to go to the pub down some pints, and have a decent curry after....
I'd booked tickets to Brixton Academy tonight.....I've already missed out on trips to the Etihad, New York and Italy in this period..but I think missing Hooky tonight doing Joy Division at Brixton has hit me particularly hard....
Lots of over-40s as well
interesting expression, if they are healthy and under 40, to me the 'right thing'
1) Standing up for freedom
2) Going to work and keeping the economy going
3) And if you have the balls, allowing yourself to be infected and then when you recover being part of the heard immunity. to protect the week and old.1 -
That was just about changing a significant government policy though, not something important like being a confidant of the PM.Benpointer said:
Weren't 'some' Tory MPs uneasy about the NHS surcharge applying to NHS workers before that got u-turned?BluestBlue said:
'Some' Tory MPs ... out of 365. Critical stuff indeed.Scott_xP said:Uh oh
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1263946175817842688
If Laura is tweeting this, just might be critical...0 -
Supported by Dan. It must be curtains for Cummings now.rottenborough said:0
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