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Looking back over the past decade there’s little doubt that Westminster voting intentions can be all over the place in the closing phase of the Euro elections campaign. It happened in 2004 and 2009 so maybe there’s a case for saying that we oughtn’t to read too much into the current comparatively poor shares for Labour.
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I do like a good Marf cartoon.0
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Neat cartoon from Marf. It is strange how squeamish we are about thinking about how exactly what is on our plates has got there. Meat doesn't come into existence shrink-wrapped and if we're going to eat it, we should be able to acknowledge the existence of the animal that lived and died for our gullet.0
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Excellent cartoon. I heard some idiot on the radio yesterday arguing that all this should be on the packaging. Waaay too much information thanks.
As TSE pointed out last night the really extraordinary part of current polling is that the tories are doing relatively well (only 2% off their GE) at the same time as UKIP is in the teens. There really ought to be a lot of upside from this for the tories in due course. For Labour, things can only get worse. And I think we need to keep reassessing where the UKIP support is coming from.0 -
Very stormy here in Hong Kong.
The shift in the Labour voting percentage looks significant to me. One more percentage point drop with YG and it will be time for EdM to get seriously worried.
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My latest post is now up, this time looking at the south west:
http://newstonoone.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/fighting-separate-battle-south-west-2015.html
I shall probably be taking a break for a few days because I am away in northern Ireland for the weekend.0 -
The Lab - Con gap narrows as the Con EU vote share drops ?
Doesnt sound like normal orthodoxies are in play.0 -
The YouGov weekly average chart will be a welcome thread in some of these parts...0
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Miliband is really hopeless.
He criticises the government for 'cheerleading' on the Pfizer / AstraZenica deal when a formal bid has not yet been made. He refuses to meet with the bidding company's chief executive, whilst accepting personal donations from a board member of the target company.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27336551
God help the country if he ever gets into power. His 'intellectual self-confidence' will send us down the drain.0 -
Good morning all. 52 weeks from today, most of us will be ready for bed having been up all night, posting and tweeting like crazy as the exit polls lead on to the early results and by now we will have a new government (or not). I think we will be talking about the size of David Cameron's majority and when Ed will resign as Labour leader.
Meanwhile back in 2014, I am wondering if this weekend will see the mythical crossover and I wonder which pollster will be first to stick its head above the parapet and give us a Tory lead over Labour? Presumably if Populus today shows a widening Labour lead, the weekend polls will be more of the same but if it also narrows to 1% then lots of bitten fingernails by early evening tomorrow.
Do you guys win your bet if it is any YouGov poll or just a Mon-Thurs one?0 -
The Con share for the EU has risen from 18% to 23-24% over the past fortnight. That is the kind of "falling" I like to see.TGOHF said:The Lab - Con gap narrows as the Con EU vote share drops ?
Doesnt sound like normal orthodoxies are in play.0 -
Alex has been having gentle digs at Nigel all week. This morning it is not quite so gentle: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/alex/
The way he has managed to maintain the "not just another politician" schtick is remarkable. If that bubble ever bursts...0 -
That is immensely amusing.. He really is a dork.JosiasJessop said:Miliband is really hopeless.
He criticises the government for 'cheerleading' on the Pfizer / AstraZenica deal when a formal bid has not yet been made. He refuses to meet with the bidding company's chief executive, whilst accepting personal donations from a board member of the target company.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27336551
God help the country if he ever gets into power. His 'intellectual self-confidence' will send us down the drain.0 -
Labour campaign - it's winning here!
twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/464654058247454723/photo/10 -
Who came up with "Labour Hardworking Britain Better Off"...
It's fantastic.0 -
Been taking bravery tips from his old boss Gordon ?SquareRoot said:
That is immensely amusing.. He really is a dork.JosiasJessop said:Miliband is really hopeless.
He criticises the government for 'cheerleading' on the Pfizer / AstraZenica deal when a formal bid has not yet been made. He refuses to meet with the bidding company's chief executive, whilst accepting personal donations from a board member of the target company.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27336551
God help the country if he ever gets into power. His 'intellectual self-confidence' will send us down the drain.0 -
@GuidoFawkes: Survation/Mirror general election poll puts Labour on 34%, the Conservatives on 33%, UKIP on 18% and the Lib Dems on 8%.0
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They just dont like verbs...Scrapheap_as_was said:Who came up with "Labour Hardworking Britain Better Off"...
It's fantastic.0 -
The Labour strategy is evidently all about cementing the base. That may well be appropriate for a low turnout election.
But I thought the rule was that you don't kick dead dogs?0 -
Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.0
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That Labour poster is incredibly misleading given food isn't subject to VAT.0
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You would be amazed at how much of your weekly shop is subject to VAT.ToryJim said:That Labour poster is incredibly misleading given food isn't subject to VAT.
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From a tentative look at recent YouGov polls it seems that 2010 LDs are shifting away from Labour, mostly towards the Tories. Will be interesting what happens over the next week or two0
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Eurovision winner - best prices
Sweden 3/1 (various)
Netherlands 5/1 (Betdaq)
Austria 5/1 (various)
Armenia 6/1 (various)
Yookay 13/1 (Betdaq)
Hungary 16/1
Denmark 28/1
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That Labour shopping basket is informative - gallons of cooking oil, beer, fizzy high sugar cola, a tin with no label, piles of biscuits and worst of all yellow peppers - who eats those ? The worst of the pepper colours.
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Have BBC staff gone on strike again? I am getting BBC World News instead of BBC Breakfast. I only turned it on to see Catriona Shearer so back to Stephen at SKY
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and of course one big lie as food does not attract VAT .TGOHF said:That Labour shopping basket is informative - gallons of cooking oil, beer, fizzy high sugar cola, a tin with no label, piles of biscuits and worst of all yellow peppers - who eats those ? The worst of the pepper colours.
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With the verb;TGOHF said:
They just dont like verbs...Scrapheap_as_was said:Who came up with "Labour Hardworking Britain Better Off"...
It's fantastic.
Labour Hardworking Britain Better Be Off
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Basic foodstuffs are exempt though, they are the most prominent part of the poster. Labour even draw attention to it. Barking.SquareRoot said:
You would be amazed at how much of your weekly shop is subject to VAT.ToryJim said:That Labour poster is incredibly misleading given food isn't subject to VAT.
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Some of it does. There are quite a few anomalies. So you pay VAT on biscuits but not cakes, hence the Jaffa Cake court case. The only bit of business law I remember from my CA training!Easterross said:
and of course one big lie as food does not attract VAT .TGOHF said:That Labour shopping basket is informative - gallons of cooking oil, beer, fizzy high sugar cola, a tin with no label, piles of biscuits and worst of all yellow peppers - who eats those ? The worst of the pepper colours.
Of course fresh fruit and veg (such as peas) don't attract VAT. So yes fairly misleading.0 -
I read Dan Hodges column in the Tele this morning and finally succumbed and watched the Labour PPB.
Isn't it dire!
There was absolutely nothing in it about what Labour would do and the portrayal of Nick Clegg was cruel. Not even highbrow satire can explain that and Labours traditional target population will miss that anyway.0 -
'Trident to stay on Clyde until at least 2026 says Hammond'
- An independent Scotland could not "unilaterally" expel nuclear weapons, Defence Secretary Philip Hammond has warned, as he rejected the SNP's plans to get rid of Trident by 2020.
... The SNP claimed Mr Hammond had let the "cat out of the bag" that ministers were considering how to move Trident.
... "For technical and planning reasons it will take at least a decade - probably significantly longer than that," [Mr Hammond] said. On the 2020 aim, he added: "This will be a process of negotiation. It is not a question of one side saying 'these are the terms' - it is a question of both sides sitting down and having a discussion. Neither side can unilaterally impose its aims."
... SNP Westminster leader and defence spokesman Angus Robertson said: "He has always said the Tories think the people of Scotland will vote No and the MoD is not spending any time on planning for independence. Yet today it is clear he is looking at a timetable in the event of a Yes vote."
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/trident-to-stay-on-clyde-until-at-least-2026-says-hammond.24175720
The MoD are in for one almighty shock come 19 September.0 -
UKIP's interest is not in having an in/out referendum per se; our sole relevant target is a Brexit.
A referendum under Cameron, when he is PM and cheer-leading for a a stay-in vote, is unlikely to lead to a Brexit.
The best (only?) scenario for a Brexit is a strong UKIP performance, a weak labour minority govt, and a united tory party lead by anybody who commits to campaign to take the UK out of the EU.0 -
Good morning, everyone. [Actually it's pretty rubbish, but there we are].
FPT: Mr. Putney, chance there won't be any F1 articles this weekend. Still trying to sort out my computer. I don't want to forgo accessing e-mail and the like for days but I can't afford to get screwed over by some ****ing virus stealing my data (I'll need to change some passwords, such as this one, but none of the sites have critical information on them).0 -
Might be worth a small punt on Ukraine as it could get a sympathy EU vote as solidarity against Russia.Stuart_Dickson said:Eurovision winner - best prices
Sweden 3/1 (various)
Netherlands 5/1 (Betdaq)
Austria 5/1 (various)
Armenia 6/1 (various)
Yookay 13/1 (Betdaq)
Hungary 16/1
Denmark 28/1
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So "vote Kipper for 5 years of abject misery and falling living standards which may take 5 more to recover from, on the off chance of a referendum reliant on another party picking a leader we like ! "david_kendrick1 said:UKIP's interest is not in having an in/out referendum per se; our sole relevant target is a Brexit.
A referendum under Cameron, when he is PM and cheer-leading for a a stay-in vote, is unlikely to lead to a Brexit.
The best (only?) scenario for a Brexit is a strong UKIP performance, a weak labour minority govt, and a united tory party lead by anybody who commits to campaign to take the UK out of the EU.
Not exactly "jam today" is it ?0 -
Is that the date of the next Edinburgh derby ? Very generous of Hibs to take one for the City and choose relegation to preserve the fixture.Stuart_Dickson said:
The MoD are in for one almighty shock come 19 September.0 -
That's an interesting gameplan, but there are many assumptions:david_kendrick1 said:UKIP's interest is not in having an in/out referendum per se; our sole relevant target is a Brexit.
A referendum under Cameron, when he is PM and cheer-leading for a a stay-in vote, is unlikely to lead to a Brexit.
The best (only?) scenario for a Brexit is a strong UKIP performance, a weak labour minority govt, and a united tory party lead by anybody who commits to campaign to take the UK out of the EU.
1) That UKIP's performance at the 2015 GE will be 'strong' enough to severely influence the result in that manner.
2) That it will lead to a weak Labour minority government.
3) That in such event, a future Tory leader will be anti-EU.
4) That even if they are anti-EU, the situation in 2020 will be suitable for an anti-EU party.
5) That an anti-EU Tory party would win against even a weak Labour in 2020.
6) That 'out' would win the resultant referendum.
I want a referendum. I'm not sure which way I would vote in that referendum. What you are saying above is that it will be 2020, at the earliest, before I get one, and we have to suffer Miliband in power for five years to get it?
No thanks.0 -
World Cup - To qualify from Group D
Italy 1/2 (BetFred)
Uruguay 1/2 (various)
England 4/6 (various)
Costa Rica 12/1 (bwin)
England are currently 33/1 to win the tournament.0 -
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
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World Cup: England are 15/8 (Bet365) to reach the quarter finals and 11/2 (various) to reach the semi finals.
If they get to the semis I'll be a very happy chappie indeed.0 -
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/farage-warns-over-repeat-of-racist-protests-on-scots-visit.24181107
... and Mr Farage following the Tories in claiming that any criticism of him and UKIP in Scotland was, and will be, a priori racist.
Not only is this a great big misunderstanding (to be polite), given who were doing the protesting (lefties, some from south of the border and so presumably not Scots) but it doesn't say much for his ability to win over hearts and minds.0 -
I think the reason was that we'd had 50 comments and none of them were about the council bye election thing you guys are having in September.Carnyx said:
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
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Well, Ms Lamont could have been talking about UKIP or voting systems for all we know!TGOHF said:
I think the reason was that we'd had 50 comments and none of them were about the council bye election thing you guys are having in September.Carnyx said:
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
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Nope. I could have posted that on every day during the last two years. In fact, if anything, she is getting even worse over time. One would have hardly thought it possible.Carnyx said:
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
I have been monitoring the main Scottish Labour politicians in the news flood for several years. Apart from very rare Jim Murphy and Wee Dougie press releases (seldom Scotland-related) they are all pretty much invisible. But the biggest No Show is the boss herself: Lamont. Has a political "leader" ever been so invisible? There is a reason why her minders keep her out of the way.
My ernest hope is that she'll be flushed out of cover soon. Then the real fun begins.
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I think Stuart's latest post suggest alas that that was not the case.Carnyx said:
Well, Ms Lamont could have been talking about UKIP or voting systems for all we know!TGOHF said:
I think the reason was that we'd had 50 comments and none of them were about the council bye election thing you guys are having in September.Carnyx said:
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
Farage is up in Edinburgh today - have you put the pitchforks into the furnace to warm up ?0 -
Basil and the goalpost.....still not parted. That's one exhausted squirrel. 22 days to go and polling prediction reputations will be smashed.
Basil is now officially knackered http://www.trinity.edu/rjensen/tidbits/2009/TiredSquirrel.jpg0 -
If England do very well in the World Cup, how do you think that will affect SIndy voting.Stuart_Dickson said:World Cup: England are 15/8 (Bet365) to reach the quarter finals and 11/2 (various) to reach the semi finals.
If they get to the semis I'll be a very happy chappie indeed.
As an aside, I was in Edinburgh and Glasgow yesterday. Based upon asking everyone I had meetings with (4 people), I forecast 100% for 'Better Together'.
However, I would admit that people I met might not have been a particularly representative sample.0 -
Dan Hodges @DPJHodges 4m
Labour's VAT poster contains series of items that are in fact zero rated. From a party struggling to communicate economic competence.0 -
You are in dubious company: Tony Blair once compared the Scottish Parliament with a "parish council".TGOHF said:
I think the reason was that we'd had 50 comments and none of them were about the council bye election thing you guys are having in September.Carnyx said:
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
The only way arrogant folk like you ever learn is by defeat at the ballot box.
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Daviddavid_kendrick1 said:UKIP's interest is not in having an in/out referendum per se; our sole relevant target is a Brexit.
A referendum under Cameron, when he is PM and cheer-leading for a a stay-in vote, is unlikely to lead to a Brexit.
The best (only?) scenario for a Brexit is a strong UKIP performance, a weak labour minority govt, and a united tory party lead by anybody who commits to campaign to take the UK out of the EU.
I saw in a recent EBU mag that you had played for the EBU team in the Camrose; congrats.
I would expect that given the number of bridge players on here that we could put forward quite a good team, although not at Camrose standards of course!0 -
On a somewhat related note, why is she your avatar picture?Stuart_Dickson said:
Nope. I could have posted that on every day during the last two years. In fact, if anything, she is getting even worse over time. One would have hardly thought it possible.Carnyx said:
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
I have been monitoring the main Scottish Labour politicians in the news flood for several years. Apart from very rare Jim Murphy and Wee Dougie press releases (seldom Scotland-related) they are all pretty much invisible. But the biggest No Show is the boss herself: Lamont. Has a political "leader" ever been so invisible? There is a reason why her minders keep her out of the way.
My ernest hope is that she'll be flushed out of cover soon. Then the real fun begins.0 -
Were you meeting with 4 women ?rcs1000 said:
If England do very well in the World Cup, how do you think that will affect SIndy voting.Stuart_Dickson said:World Cup: England are 15/8 (Bet365) to reach the quarter finals and 11/2 (various) to reach the semi finals.
If they get to the semis I'll be a very happy chappie indeed.
As an aside, I was in Edinburgh and Glasgow yesterday. Based upon asking everyone I had meetings with (4 people), I forecast 100% for 'Better Together'.
However, I would admit that people I met might not have been a particularly representative sample.0 -
Anyone stupid enough to base their voting on football results will already be a Nat.rcs1000 said:
If England do very well in the World Cup, how do you think that will affect SIndy voting.Stuart_Dickson said:World Cup: England are 15/8 (Bet365) to reach the quarter finals and 11/2 (various) to reach the semi finals.
If they get to the semis I'll be a very happy chappie indeed.
As an aside, I was in Edinburgh and Glasgow yesterday. Based upon asking everyone I had meetings with (4 people), I forecast 100% for 'Better Together'.
However, I would admit that people I met might not have been a particularly representative sample.
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How do arrogant folk like you ever learn?Stuart_Dickson said:
You are in dubious company: Tony Blair once compared the Scottish Parliament with a "parish council".TGOHF said:
I think the reason was that we'd had 50 comments and none of them were about the council bye election thing you guys are having in September.Carnyx said:
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
The only way arrogant folk like you ever learn is by defeat at the ballot box.0 -
The further England get, the better for the Yes campaign.rcs1000 said:
If England do very well in the World Cup, how do you think that will affect SIndy voting?Stuart_Dickson said:World Cup: England are 15/8 (Bet365) to reach the quarter finals and 11/2 (various) to reach the semi finals.
If they get to the semis I'll be a very happy chappie indeed.
If they fail to get out of the group it is no biggie, but thereafter it becomes boon, boon, boon for Yes.
If you wonder why I have come to that conclusion then I could summarise it in three letters: B, B, and C.
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Wouldn't dream of it - that would be inhospitable and we can't have that. He might want to immigrate after independence, after all. But I must admit I would be tempted just to sit back with a cup of tea and slice of Selkirk Bannock and home made blackcurrant jam, and wait to see what the local Labour students and activists get up to. (BTW, it was a bit rich of Willie Rennie the LD to sort of blame their last year's efforts on Mr Salmond personally. Doesn't say much for him if he thinks Mr S controls the Labour party machine!).TGOHF said:
I think Stuart's latest post suggest alas that that was not the case.Carnyx said:
Well, Ms Lamont could have been talking about UKIP or voting systems for all we know!TGOHF said:
I think the reason was that we'd had 50 comments and none of them were about the council bye election thing you guys are having in September.Carnyx said:
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
Farage is up in Edinburgh today - have you put the pitchforks into the furnace to warm up ?0 -
Never has one man continued such bitterness over not getting a job.To think, if David had won, he would have the media job in the Labour Party he was promised.****Shudders ****TGOHF said:Dan Hodges @DPJHodges 4m
Labour's VAT poster contains series of items that are in fact zero rated. From a party struggling to communicate economic competence.0 -
I daresay not. On a 'wisdom' index, were they all complacent about their desired result?rcs1000 said:
As an aside, I was in Edinburgh and Glasgow yesterday. Based upon asking everyone I had meetings with (4 people), I forecast 100% for 'Better Together'.
However, I would admit that people I met might not have been a particularly representative sample.0 -
Arrogant like not giving me a vote but saying I can have a tartan passport if I like afterwards ?Stuart_Dickson said:
The further England get, the better for the Yes campaign.rcs1000 said:
If England do very well in the World Cup, how do you think that will affect SIndy voting?Stuart_Dickson said:World Cup: England are 15/8 (Bet365) to reach the quarter finals and 11/2 (various) to reach the semi finals.
If they get to the semis I'll be a very happy chappie indeed.
If they fail to get out of the group it is no biggie, but thereafter it becomes boon, boon, boon for Yes.
If you wonder why I have come to that conclusion then I could summarise it in three letters: B, B, and C.
Now that's arrogance....
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Nothing whatsoever to do with soccer results. Everything to do with the way the English media cover those results.MonikerDiCanio said:
Anyone stupid enough to base their voting on football results will already be a Nat.rcs1000 said:
If England do very well in the World Cup, how do you think that will affect SIndy voting.Stuart_Dickson said:World Cup: England are 15/8 (Bet365) to reach the quarter finals and 11/2 (various) to reach the semi finals.
If they get to the semis I'll be a very happy chappie indeed.
As an aside, I was in Edinburgh and Glasgow yesterday. Based upon asking everyone I had meetings with (4 people), I forecast 100% for 'Better Together'.
However, I would admit that people I met might not have been a particularly representative sample.
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Must agree that any Scot basing their vote on England's performance in a football contest is likely to be Yes already. And stupid, for that matter.0
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Demographic groups D, E and definitely not women...MonikerDiCanio said:
Anyone stupid enough to base their voting on football results will already be a Nat.rcs1000 said:
If England do very well in the World Cup, how do you think that will affect SIndy voting.Stuart_Dickson said:World Cup: England are 15/8 (Bet365) to reach the quarter finals and 11/2 (various) to reach the semi finals.
If they get to the semis I'll be a very happy chappie indeed.
As an aside, I was in Edinburgh and Glasgow yesterday. Based upon asking everyone I had meetings with (4 people), I forecast 100% for 'Better Together'.
However, I would admit that people I met might not have been a particularly representative sample.0 -
Re; VAT on Food
VAT rated items include all alcoholic drinks, carbonated and energy drinks, anything with more than 15% chocolate (e.g. double-sided choc bars), energy bars, crisps (except vegetable crisps and twiglets), all confectionery - you see a lot of these items in shopping carts - none of which is necessary for survival if you are on a limited income.0 -
F1: P1 starts in about a quarter of an hour.
As I mentioned below, possible there'll be no F1 articles. I'm hoping that everything goes smoothly, and I'll be able to put some up.
I think the question is likelier to be about the size of the advantage Mercedes has rather than whether they've been passed on pace terms by another team. Their advantage in the first 4 races was very significant.0 -
"Waaah - I was going to get on in life, start a successful business and make something of my life until the evil English soccer media crushed my dreams" said no one ever..Stuart_Dickson said:
Nothing whatsoever to do with soccer results. Everything to do with the way the English media cover those results.MonikerDiCanio said:
Anyone stupid enough to base their voting on football results will already be a Nat.rcs1000 said:
If England do very well in the World Cup, how do you think that will affect SIndy voting.Stuart_Dickson said:World Cup: England are 15/8 (Bet365) to reach the quarter finals and 11/2 (various) to reach the semi finals.
If they get to the semis I'll be a very happy chappie indeed.
As an aside, I was in Edinburgh and Glasgow yesterday. Based upon asking everyone I had meetings with (4 people), I forecast 100% for 'Better Together'.
However, I would admit that people I met might not have been a particularly representative sample.
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Maybe instead of playing the man, as normal, you might want to see if he's right or wrong on what he's saying.compouter2 said:
Never has one man continued such bitterness over not getting a job.To think, if David had won, he would have the media job in the Labour Party he was promised.****Shudders ****TGOHF said:Dan Hodges @DPJHodges 4m
Labour's VAT poster contains series of items that are in fact zero rated. From a party struggling to communicate economic competence.
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Every vote for UKIP at the GE is a vote for Miliband.david_kendrick1 said:
The best (only?) scenario for a Brexit is a strong UKIP performance, a weak labour minority govt
A strong UKIP performance and a weak Labour minority government are mutually exclusive.0 -
Ah! Thank you. Like metals, in which IIRC it's the electron-less holes that count just as much as the electrons. I must say she got off very lightly indeed in the media after she came out with her statement that Scots "are not genetically programmed to make political decisions" - if a London pol had said that of English/Northerners/Cornish etc. ...Stuart_Dickson said:
Nope. I could have posted that on every day during the last two years. In fact, if anything, she is getting even worse over time. One would have hardly thought it possible.Carnyx said:
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
I have been monitoring the main Scottish Labour politicians in the news flood for several years. Apart from very rare Jim Murphy and Wee Dougie press releases (seldom Scotland-related) they are all pretty much invisible. But the biggest No Show is the boss herself: Lamont. Has a political "leader" ever been so invisible? There is a reason why her minders keep her out of the way.
My ernest hope is that she'll be flushed out of cover soon. Then the real fun begins.
And we haven't even mentioned the event which General Flashman (decd.) thinks is of no importance to him, so we have kept him happy over his kedgeree..0 -
Personally, I expect England to lose to Italy and Uruguay. In other words they'll triumphantly surpass the records for earliest exits from a tournament established by Scotland.0
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Good morning. I see Vanilla playing up again. I had to sign in twice this morning.
Here is a joke sent to me, unattributed:
An Israeli doctor says: “in Israel, medicine is so advanced that we cut off a man’s testicles, put them on another man and in 6 weeks, he is looking for work
“The German doctor says: “that’s nothing, in Germany we take part of a brain, put it in another man, and in 4 weeks he is looking for work
“The Russian doctor says: “gentlemen, we take half a heart from a man, put it in another’s chest and in 2 weeks he is looking for work.
“The United States doctor laughs: “You all are behind us. Five years ago, we took a man with no brains, no heart and no balls and made him President. Now, the whole country is looking for work!
The joke may be known to others, but I thought it worth a retread.
Nice to see Marf back on PB.0 -
Given that every event since the dawn of time is "good for the YeSNP campaign", it's astonishing they are still behind in the polls...TGOHF said:
"Waaah - I was going to get on in life, start a successful business and make something of my life until the evil English soccer media crushed my dreams" said no one ever..
None of the Nats found this article in the Edinburgh Law Review yet?
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What happened the last time a team from the UK played Costa Rica in the World Cup ?ThomasNashe said:Personally, I expect England to lose to Italy and Uruguay. In other words they'll triumphantly surpass the records for earliest exits from a tournament established by Scotland.
*Innocent Face*
Nats = Ally McLeod.
Discuss.
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Even the writers from season 3 of Homeland were putting the boot into the Scotland football team.0
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Mr. Eagles, they were?
Incidentally, live coverage of practice has now begun (online or on BBC2, I think).0 -
On topic, the trend is clear.
Will it last ?0 -
I think Ally McLeod was manager in 1978, when Scotland succumbed to the might of Peru. Costa Rica was 1990.TheScreamingEagles said:
What happened the last time a team from the UK played Costa Rica in the World Cup ?ThomasNashe said:Personally, I expect England to lose to Italy and Uruguay. In other words they'll triumphantly surpass the records for earliest exits from a tournament established by Scotland.
*Innocent Face*
Nats = Ally McLeod.
Discuss.0 -
The tragedy was that the 1978 Scotland team was good enough to have won the World Cup.TheScreamingEagles said:
What happened the last time a team from the UK played Costa Rica in the World Cup ?ThomasNashe said:Personally, I expect England to lose to Italy and Uruguay. In other words they'll triumphantly surpass the records for earliest exits from a tournament established by Scotland.
*Innocent Face*
Nats = Ally McLeod.
Discuss.
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@Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was said:The YouGov weekly average chart will be a welcome thread in some of these parts...
I have just started compiling a spreadsheet of the 2010 splits for each of the three (then) main parties. Have done April and May (only 7 polls) to date and will finish Jan-March this weekend.
So far looking at the LD split there appears 1% more going to Cons, 2+% less going to Labour, 2% less going to LDs, 2.5% more going to UKIP and 0.5% more going to Greens.
For Labour, 0.5% more going to Cons, 2% less to Labour, nearly 1% more going to UKIP and bits more to LDs and Greens.
For Conservatives, very steady but bits less to Labour, LDs and UKIP.
I will publish full figures for 2014 this weekend.0 -
They were, one of the main protagonists of season 3, was a member of the 1978 Iranian world cup team.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, they were?
Incidentally, live coverage of practice has now begun (online or on BBC2, I think).0 -
Don't be patronising. I wouldn't, and nor would almost everyone on twitter by the looks of it. This is like politicians being ambushed with "how much is a pint of milk?" except Labour have kindly ambushed themselves.SquareRoot said:
You would be amazed at how much of your weekly shop is subject to VAT.ToryJim said:That Labour poster is incredibly misleading given food isn't subject to VAT.
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I know, I was making two different points.ThomasNashe said:
I think Ally McLeod was manager in 1978, when Scotland succumbed to the might of Peru. Costa Rica was 1990.TheScreamingEagles said:
What happened the last time a team from the UK played Costa Rica in the World Cup ?ThomasNashe said:Personally, I expect England to lose to Italy and Uruguay. In other words they'll triumphantly surpass the records for earliest exits from a tournament established by Scotland.
*Innocent Face*
Nats = Ally McLeod.
Discuss.
That said, I was born after the 1978 World Cup.
A lot of my knowledge of Scotland at the 1978 World Cup was gleaned from the film Trainspotting.0 -
Backed Scotland to beat England today, 8/1
http://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/scotland-v-england/winner0 -
Stuart , surely you have missed at least one zero at the end thereStuart_Dickson said:World Cup - To qualify from Group D
Italy 1/2 (BetFred)
Uruguay 1/2 (various)
England 4/6 (various)
Costa Rica 12/1 (bwin)
England are currently 33/1 to win the tournament.0 -
Bah, just got logged out.
Mr. Eagles, ah, I remember that now.0 -
That said, no Jade Dernbach in the squad.
Rejoice.0 -
Carnyx, I wonder if the protesters will be English again or will we see a few Scots involved.Carnyx said:
Wouldn't dream of it - that would be inhospitable and we can't have that. He might want to immigrate after independence, after all. But I must admit I would be tempted just to sit back with a cup of tea and slice of Selkirk Bannock and home made blackcurrant jam, and wait to see what the local Labour students and activists get up to. (BTW, it was a bit rich of Willie Rennie the LD to sort of blame their last year's efforts on Mr Salmond personally. Doesn't say much for him if he thinks Mr S controls the Labour party machine!).TGOHF said:
I think Stuart's latest post suggest alas that that was not the case.Carnyx said:
Well, Ms Lamont could have been talking about UKIP or voting systems for all we know!TGOHF said:
I think the reason was that we'd had 50 comments and none of them were about the council bye election thing you guys are having in September.Carnyx said:
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
Farage is up in Edinburgh today - have you put the pitchforks into the furnace to warm up ?0 -
Rennie calling people protesting "dogs" seems to be a bit intemperate and very stupid even for a Lib Dem.Carnyx said:
Wouldn't dream of it - that would be inhospitable and we can't have that. He might want to immigrate after independence, after all. But I must admit I would be tempted just to sit back with a cup of tea and slice of Selkirk Bannock and home made blackcurrant jam, and wait to see what the local Labour students and activists get up to. (BTW, it was a bit rich of Willie Rennie the LD to sort of blame their last year's efforts on Mr Salmond personally. Doesn't say much for him if he thinks Mr S controls the Labour party machine!).TGOHF said:
I think Stuart's latest post suggest alas that that was not the case.Carnyx said:
Well, Ms Lamont could have been talking about UKIP or voting systems for all we know!TGOHF said:
I think the reason was that we'd had 50 comments and none of them were about the council bye election thing you guys are having in September.Carnyx said:
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
Farage is up in Edinburgh today - have you put the pitchforks into the furnace to warm up ?0 -
The Economist is both a wonderful and a dreadful publication. But there is little doubt that its obituaries are one of the wonderful bits. Here is a snippet from their George MacDonald Fraser obit.Carnyx said:
Ah! Thank you. Like metals, in which IIRC it's the electron-less holes that count just as much as the electrons. I must say she got off very lightly indeed in the media after she came out with her statement that Scots "are not genetically programmed to make political decisions" - if a London pol had said that of English/Northerners/Cornish etc. ...Stuart_Dickson said:
Nope. I could have posted that on every day during the last two years. In fact, if anything, she is getting even worse over time. One would have hardly thought it possible.Carnyx said:
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
I have been monitoring the main Scottish Labour politicians in the news flood for several years. Apart from very rare Jim Murphy and Wee Dougie press releases (seldom Scotland-related) they are all pretty much invisible. But the biggest No Show is the boss herself: Lamont. Has a political "leader" ever been so invisible? There is a reason why her minders keep her out of the way.
My ernest hope is that she'll be flushed out of cover soon. Then the real fun begins.
And we haven't even mentioned the event which General Flashman (decd.) thinks is of no importance to him, so we have kept him happy over his kedgeree..Would Flashman have liked [Fraser], had they met? Mr Fraser was a Scot, of course, solidly and loudly so, and Flashman had no love for Scotland. He found it (on his visits to Balmoral to the girlish Queen Victoria, all popeyes and buck teeth but “pretty enough beneath the neck”) a place of gloom and drizzle and long-faced holiness. He preferred Indian heat and sun. But Mr Fraser was a devoted son of the borders, born in Carlisle and writing both fact and fiction about the ruffian-reivers and cattle-stealers of the region: men who, in their shameless venturing and whoring and disrespect for law, were quite a lot like old Flashy, except that they were brave.
http://www.economist.com/node/10492913
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The Scotland team in 1978 was pretty good - apart from the goalie who was worse than abject. Oh and Willie Johnston failing a drugs test didn't help.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know, I was making two different points.ThomasNashe said:
I think Ally McLeod was manager in 1978, when Scotland succumbed to the might of Peru. Costa Rica was 1990.TheScreamingEagles said:
What happened the last time a team from the UK played Costa Rica in the World Cup ?ThomasNashe said:Personally, I expect England to lose to Italy and Uruguay. In other words they'll triumphantly surpass the records for earliest exits from a tournament established by Scotland.
*Innocent Face*
Nats = Ally McLeod.
Discuss.
That said, I was born after the 1978 World Cup.
A lot of my knowledge of Scotland at the 1978 World Cup was gleaned from the film Trainspotting.
I was greetin during the Peru game - toughened me up for a lifetime supporting Scotland at football though.
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LOL, Flash you are really dreaming now , you and success are unlikely ever to be bedfellowsTGOHF said:
"Waaah - I was going to get on in life, start a successful business and make something of my life until the evil English soccer media crushed my dreams" said no one ever..Stuart_Dickson said:
Nothing whatsoever to do with soccer results. Everything to do with the way the English media cover those results.MonikerDiCanio said:
Anyone stupid enough to base their voting on football results will already be a Nat.rcs1000 said:
If England do very well in the World Cup, how do you think that will affect SIndy voting.Stuart_Dickson said:World Cup: England are 15/8 (Bet365) to reach the quarter finals and 11/2 (various) to reach the semi finals.
If they get to the semis I'll be a very happy chappie indeed.
As an aside, I was in Edinburgh and Glasgow yesterday. Based upon asking everyone I had meetings with (4 people), I forecast 100% for 'Better Together'.
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Those embarrassing scenes in Edinburgh. How reassuring that it was the English at fault, as ever.malcolmg said:
Carnyx, I wonder if the protesters will be English again or will we see a few Scots involved.Carnyx said:
Wouldn't dream of it - that would be inhospitable and we can't have that. He might want to immigrate after independence, after all. But I must admit I would be tempted just to sit back with a cup of tea and slice of Selkirk Bannock and home made blackcurrant jam, and wait to see what the local Labour students and activists get up to. (BTW, it was a bit rich of Willie Rennie the LD to sort of blame their last year's efforts on Mr Salmond personally. Doesn't say much for him if he thinks Mr S controls the Labour party machine!).TGOHF said:
I think Stuart's latest post suggest alas that that was not the case.Carnyx said:
Well, Ms Lamont could have been talking about UKIP or voting systems for all we know!TGOHF said:
I think the reason was that we'd had 50 comments and none of them were about the council bye election thing you guys are having in September.Carnyx said:
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
Farage is up in Edinburgh today - have you put the pitchforks into the furnace to warm up ?
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@MorrisDancer Have you followed the steps at http://www.wintips.org/remove-fbdownloader-hijacker/0
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Intemperate and stupid are two of the kinder things one could say about Mr Rennie. Just compare him the the giants of Scottish liberalism. It really is toe-curling stuff.malcolmg said:
Rennie calling people protesting "dogs" seems to be a bit intemperate and very stupid even for a Lib Dem.Carnyx said:
Wouldn't dream of it - that would be inhospitable and we can't have that. He might want to immigrate after independence, after all. But I must admit I would be tempted just to sit back with a cup of tea and slice of Selkirk Bannock and home made blackcurrant jam, and wait to see what the local Labour students and activists get up to. (BTW, it was a bit rich of Willie Rennie the LD to sort of blame their last year's efforts on Mr Salmond personally. Doesn't say much for him if he thinks Mr S controls the Labour party machine!).TGOHF said:
I think Stuart's latest post suggest alas that that was not the case.Carnyx said:
Well, Ms Lamont could have been talking about UKIP or voting systems for all we know!TGOHF said:
I think the reason was that we'd had 50 comments and none of them were about the council bye election thing you guys are having in September.Carnyx said:
Any special reason today, please?Stuart_Dickson said:Two words which must be especially worrying for the red team are 'Johann' and 'Lamont'. Dearie, dearie, dearie, dearie me.
Farage is up in Edinburgh today - have you put the pitchforks into the furnace to warm up ?
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Why are Ukip supporters so rude and horrible?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jameskirkup/100270693/online-ukippers-truly-believe-thats-why-theyre-rude-and-thats-why-i-admire-them/0 -
That was brave. In the 'Yes Minister' sense of the word.TheScreamingEagles said:Backed Scotland to beat England today, 8/1
http://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/scotland-v-england/winner
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You haven't been following the England cricket team this winter.Stuart_Dickson said:
That was brave. In the 'Yes Minister' sense of the word.TheScreamingEagles said:Backed Scotland to beat England today, 8/1
http://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/scotland-v-england/winner0 -
While it obviously isn't great for Labour that they put a picture of VAT-free items on a poster talking about the coalition raising VAT, it's not great for the Conservatives and Lib Dems either to have a big fuss made that reminds the public that the coalition raised VAT.0
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No, it's a good bet. England alWays perform atrociously against smaller nations in the cricket, they normally fall over the line, but 8/1 is value.Stuart_Dickson said:
That was brave. In the 'Yes Minister' sense of the word.TheScreamingEagles said:Backed Scotland to beat England today, 8/1
http://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/scotland-v-england/winner
Against that, Super Jimmy is back.0
