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I'm going to go for a peak on Friday, with declining numbers from then on.
FPT @Beibheirli_C
Just checked on the system - Tony's my 4th cousin twice removed, not my 5th cousin.
Sorry for misleading folks...
Its not perfect, but its better than nothing and certainly not true to say there's a 5 week wait still. Come week 5 you've been paid for ~9.9 weeks not 5 weeks which is when you need it most.
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Yes the advance needs repaying, but why shouldn't it? But you're in a better position getting a week one payment repaid over 12 months than getting regular payments from week one only. You're now basically getting paid ahead of schedule for 12 months (if you need to be on UC that long, or via taxes if not) which is an improvement and has axed the 5 week wait.
well I cant answer for universal credit as when I came under it I never managed to make a claim because they cancelled it then I was back in work a week later. However when I did claim JSA it was like this
My rent was 850 a modest two up two down house so had a bedroom for my son.
He didnt live with me so only got 650 HB
On top of that I got 72£ a week jsa for a total of 284 a month so total was
650+284 = 934
I had to pay 850 rent out of that 30 electric, 30 gas , 20 internet 10 mobile phone
for a total of 940 leaving me -6 for for food for the month and getting to interviews....before you say it yes my house was bigger than my strict needs but been there 15 years and in work for 15 years when the firm went bust so I got no payout and left with them owing me wages. You cant just move immediately
As I said before, it would be a simple, economically sensible, and humane change to pay the first payment earlier.
The obvious exception seems to be the US.
Your system only works if you made the first payment an advance and then paid in advance all along, which has to my knowledge never been how the system works even pre-UC.
America votes time and time and time again for guns. Shooting each other is their will.
And why are the bloody pubs still letting people in anyway? That clown who runs Spoons should be first against the metaphorical wall.
The old system was first payment two weeks after claiming - I cannot see why that can't be replicated under UC.
Second time because they decided to cancel my claim I wouldnt have had anything until week 7 apart from again I had built a buffer in the bank and even though I got back into work before my claim went through so was out of work 4 weeks it was touch and go.
I was lucky because I earn more than I spend and could stash some. A hell of a lot of people arent in that position
With an advance you can get an immediate months payment in advance and not have to repay that for a year, meaning over the course of a year you have more money than you would have otherwise - even if you get a new job and go back off UC you still get to keep it and only have to repay that via PAYE over the course of a year. That's more of a cushion than used to exist.
Standard claim = first payment after 5 weeks. Bear in mind most people don't get advice from CA or similar. If they do take the advance they are living of even less for the rest of the year.
Getting six weeks welfare up front, rather than 2 weeks welfare after 2 weeks, is presumably a better safety net for those who've been shafted like that?
Besides it doesnt change the point its not really a safety net purely because hb is based purely on what you need not what you have and you can always downsize that quickly. I think 2 months minimum of paying your rent as is to give you time to downsize is needed
Now admittedly, we don't tend to see the people for whom this is easy-peasy but for those less-switched on, shall we say, the system is a nightmare, and frankly, cruel.
Btw has the character limit on blockquotes been removed?!
Brace yourselves!
Anyway, bedtime. Stay safe.
https://twitter.com/VinnyMcAv/status/1240417200172871680
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2020/html/ecb.pr200318_1~3949d6f266.en.html
40 stations without interchanges to be closed.
Waterloo & City suspended.
Night Tube suspended.
Bus services reduced.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/488349-sanders-when-asked-about-timeframe-for-2020-decision-im-dealing-with-a-f-ing
A UK example would be those who have been locking themselves away because of the virus and those who go to the pub virus-be-d*mned. We have read many reports like that here on PB.
Which group out of those do you think would present in hospital with actual symptoms as opposed to some other cause? But if you test the relatives of those who present, then those two UK demographics will give very different rates and results.
Surveys are only meaningful if the samples are similar.
Any pb-er expressing other sentiments is an asshole.
Never.
You'll be saying no Vimto next.
http://tylervigen.com/view_correlation?id=7
I reckon they have blocked everything out until further notice, while they sort out a priority system for 70+ and disabled etc.
The right thing to do, but they could tell people.
https://twitter.com/CoronaTurkeyEN/status/1240417645461155847