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Today’s YouGov poll will probably be the last one before Britain leaves the EU on Friday evening. I do hope that the firm will continue its regular Brexit tracker question which has been put in the same way since the referendum in June 2016 .
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First. And aren't the colours the wrong way around?0
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Yeah ... I'm confused too. The graph shows "Right" with a lead.0
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..... i.e. 47% say Brexit was right, 40% wrong?0
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There should be a lot of CLPs nominating for the leadership tonight.0
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Evening all
Just picking up on an earthquake in the Caribbean - one can only hope damage and loss of life is at a minimum.
On topic, the graphic shows the Conservative vote coalition from last December to perfection - 75% of LEAVE voters (36% of thr total based on the prevailing 52-48 split in favour of REMAIN rather than the 23/6/16 result).
Add to that the two much smaller groups - REMAIN voters terrified by the prospect of Corbyn and REMAIN voters who, for all they are opposed to the decision to leave the EU recognise the need for it to happen in democratic terms and therefore endorsed Johnson as the route to enacting the 23/6/16 referendum decision.
Once again I find myself in the ultimate minority - I am representative of no one but myself (it seems).0 -
Seems soWulfrun_Phil said:First. And aren't the colours the wrong way around?
I predict what will happen is; a small bunch of people who want to be in the EU will go on about it a lot with great gusto, similar to the likes of Farage, James Goldsmith and a few ERG Tories in the 90s and early 2000s, while most people wont be all that bothered, like most people apart from those I have mentioned at that time.
What Remain need is something, something with a tangible effect on peoples lives, to happen that wouldn't have done if we were still in the EU. For Leave it was the Freedom of Movement from A8 countries in 20040 -
A Tsunami warning has just been issued for that area.stodge said:Evening all
Just picking up on an earthquake in the Caribbean - one can only hope damage and loss of life is at a minimum.
On topic, the graphic shows the Conservative vote coalition from last December to perfection - 75% of LEAVE voters (36% of thr total based on the prevailing 52-48 split in favour of REMAIN rather than the 23/6/16 result).
Add to that the two much smaller groups - REMAIN voters terrified by the prospect of Corbyn and REMAIN voters who, for all they are opposed to the decision to leave the EU recognise the need for it to happen in democratic terms and therefore endorsed Johnson as the route to enacting the 23/6/16 referendum decision.
Once again I find myself in the ultimate minority - I am representative of no one but myself (it seems).0 -
Chart corrected0
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Boris will most likely get the presentation right. Wherever we're going it'll be an adventure, and that's fine. The bad things will arrive, but it'll be dealt with (who knows how well).
If Boris actually gets this right he'll be pint-buying-worthy across the land.
Despite his faults, if had to choose one person that might, it's him.0 -
Surely the Liberal Democrats are going to be the subject of a complaint under the Trade Descriptions Act?0
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There was that nasty earthquake in nearby Haiti in 2010ralphmalph said:
A Tsunami warning has just been issued for that area.stodge said:Evening all
Just picking up on an earthquake in the Caribbean - one can only hope damage and loss of life is at a minimum.
On topic, the graphic shows the Conservative vote coalition from last December to perfection - 75% of LEAVE voters (36% of thr total based on the prevailing 52-48 split in favour of REMAIN rather than the 23/6/16 result).
Add to that the two much smaller groups - REMAIN voters terrified by the prospect of Corbyn and REMAIN voters who, for all they are opposed to the decision to leave the EU recognise the need for it to happen in democratic terms and therefore endorsed Johnson as the route to enacting the 23/6/16 referendum decision.
Once again I find myself in the ultimate minority - I am representative of no one but myself (it seems).0 -
Just got in from work so missed the last thread -
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear.
2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to"
3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA.
4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight.
5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
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No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.2 -
Why do they always want to do it the Huawei??Malmesbury said:Just got in from work so missed the last thread -
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear.
2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to"
3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA.
4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight.
5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.0 -
https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/the-future-of-telecoms-in-the-ukMalmesbury said:Just got in from work so missed the last thread -
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear.
2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to"
3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA.
4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight.
5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.0 -
The 3rd option should not be "Don't Know", it should be "Have No Opinion".
Nobody "knows". As is acknowledged in the main question. Not "were" we right to leave the EU, but do you "think" we were right to leave the EU.
Pollsters should sort this sort of stuff out. It's important.0 -
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As remainiacs breathlessly relayed to us for three years "wrong" had been leading this question since the referendum, and yet made no difference to the election.0
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Is it true all members of the Ukraine Politburo committed suicide after Chernobyl?AlastairMeeks said:
All of them except the Secretary. He wasn’t at home.0 -
Well, I'm told Labour no longer represents the workers and the Conservatives don't want to conserve anything so perhaps all three parties are guilty of misrepresentation or perhaps you're just being boring, who can say?DavidL said:Surely the Liberal Democrats are going to be the subject of a complaint under the Trade Descriptions Act?
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All three are guilty it seemsstodge said:
Well, I'm told Labour no longer represents the workers and the Conservatives don't want to conserve anything so perhaps all three parties are guilty of misrepresentation or perhaps you're just being boring, who can say?DavidL said:Surely the Liberal Democrats are going to be the subject of a complaint under the Trade Descriptions Act?
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Allow me to be the hundred and seventh person to say I hope they haven’t got into a sticky situation.AlastairMeeks said:
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I saw that - read it even. Yes, gone in 10 years if possible. Stealing the latest and greatest will help enormously with 6G or whatever they will brand the next generation.ralphmalph said:
https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/the-future-of-telecoms-in-the-ukMalmesbury said:Just got in from work so missed the last thread -
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear.
2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to"
3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA.
4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight.
5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.0 -
VIG!Malmesbury said:
I saw that - read it even. Yes, gone in 10 years if possible. Stealing the latest and greatest will help enormously with 6G or whatever they will brand the next generation.ralphmalph said:
https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/the-future-of-telecoms-in-the-ukMalmesbury said:Just got in from work so missed the last thread -
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear.
2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to"
3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA.
4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight.
5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.0 -
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=200 -
It was a honey trap, or possibly a cereal killer...Time_to_Leave said:
Allow me to be the hundred and seventh person to say I hope they haven’t got into a sticky situation.AlastairMeeks said:1 -
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=200 -
The British public are thick as mince and have poor judgment.
Why do we let people vote?
https://twitter.com/OfficialNTAs/status/12222540417927618570 -
No I think that you have a point.stodge said:
Well, I'm told Labour no longer represents the workers and the Conservatives don't want to conserve anything so perhaps all three parties are guilty of misrepresentation or perhaps you're just being boring, who can say?DavidL said:Surely the Liberal Democrats are going to be the subject of a complaint under the Trade Descriptions Act?
We should insist we have
The greedy or retired party
The public sector party
The we know better party.
Actually there is an argument that the last applies to them all.0 -
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He’ll get a tongue of complaints from the RSPCA.TheScreamingEagles said:Has anyone ever shook a dog's mouth?
https://twitter.com/chrisjollyhale/status/12222575752505794580 -
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=200 -
I was told it was £30 extra so I politely declined.TheScreamingEagles said:Has anyone ever shook a dog's mouth?
https://twitter.com/chrisjollyhale/status/1222257575250579458
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I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=200 -
ON topic my experience is that Remainers still generally think that it was a bad decision to Leave, but most are now resigned to it, many think endless ongoing chaos (with Corbyn??) was worse, even more now realise a 2nd vote would have been dangerous (and quite possibly lost, again).
The nation is united behind a kind of "OK fuck it, we voted for it, let's just get on and do it, whatever", sort of mood. Rather British, really.0 -
He'll be hounded out of office.....ydoethur said:
He’ll get a tongue of complaints from the RSPCA.TheScreamingEagles said:Has anyone ever shook a dog's mouth?
https://twitter.com/chrisjollyhale/status/12222575752505794580 -
The Putney Party - motto "Cromwell and Wellington were right" - policy platform of reversing the 1832 reform act and restricting the franchise to men of property....DavidL said:
No I think that you have a point.stodge said:
Well, I'm told Labour no longer represents the workers and the Conservatives don't want to conserve anything so perhaps all three parties are guilty of misrepresentation or perhaps you're just being boring, who can say?DavidL said:Surely the Liberal Democrats are going to be the subject of a complaint under the Trade Descriptions Act?
We should insist we have
The greedy or retired party
The public sector party
The we know better party.
Actually there is an argument that the last applies to them all.0 -
If only they had settled into that mood in August 2016, eh?Byronic said:ON topic my experience is that Remainers still generally think that it was a bad decision to Leave, but most are now resigned to it, many think endless ongoing chaos (with Corbyn??) was worse, even more now realise a 2nd vote would have been dangerous (and quite possibly lost, again).
The nation is united behind a kind of "OK fuck it, we voted for it, let's just get on and do it, whatever", sort of mood. Rather British, really.
Especially the MPs.0 -
What’s the difference between Richard Burgon’s brain and Bigfoot?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=20
There is some evidence for the existence of Bigfoot.0 -
It’s going to dog his career.MarqueeMark said:
He'll be hounded out of office.....ydoethur said:
He’ll get a tongue of complaints from the RSPCA.TheScreamingEagles said:Has anyone ever shook a dog's mouth?
https://twitter.com/chrisjollyhale/status/12222575752505794580 -
He won't be muzzled.MarqueeMark said:
He'll be hounded out of office.....ydoethur said:
He’ll get a tongue of complaints from the RSPCA.TheScreamingEagles said:Has anyone ever shook a dog's mouth?
https://twitter.com/chrisjollyhale/status/12222575752505794580 -
Life's a bitch.ydoethur said:
It’s going to dog his career.MarqueeMark said:
He'll be hounded out of office.....ydoethur said:
He’ll get a tongue of complaints from the RSPCA.TheScreamingEagles said:Has anyone ever shook a dog's mouth?
https://twitter.com/chrisjollyhale/status/12222575752505794580 -
You speak the tooth,SandyRentool said:
Life's a bitch.ydoethur said:
It’s going to dog his career.MarqueeMark said:
He'll be hounded out of office.....ydoethur said:
He’ll get a tongue of complaints from the RSPCA.TheScreamingEagles said:Has anyone ever shook a dog's mouth?
https://twitter.com/chrisjollyhale/status/12222575752505794580 -
You're leaping a lot here. Your experience to a summary of the nation. I think you're right mind.Byronic said:ON topic my experience is that Remainers still generally think that it was a bad decision to Leave, but most are now resigned to it, many think endless ongoing chaos (with Corbyn??) was worse, even more now realise a 2nd vote would have been dangerous (and quite possibly lost, again).
The nation is united behind a kind of "OK fuck it, we voted for it, let's just get on and do it, whatever", sort of mood. Rather British, really.
Boris has a wonderful lacuna to work out what he's going to do.
There's great risk here, so lets hope he gets much of it right. Oddly the hopelessness of the arguments of the left will help him - he doesn't need to take them into account.
In April, when the slithy Starmer emerges from his place amongst the toves, things will change. Perhaps though only a little.
In December things will change more.0 -
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=200 -
Looking at the graph, non-Ref voters must break heavily for 'Wrong'.
Presumably a lot of these were too young to vote in 2016.0 -
Burgon is a man so dense light bends around him.Nigelb said:
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=20
Things more useful than Richard Burgon
Chocolate tea pot
Concrete pillow
A nun's dildo
A crocheted condom
Nipples on a breastplate
An ashtray on a motorbike
Italy as an ally in World War II0 -
Within 3 miles is the Home Office guideline.Nigelb said:
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=200 -
It would explain the Shadow Cabinet.....Nigelb said:
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=200 -
TSE, without going into details I think you may perhaps be slightly out in your estimation of the usefulness of a nun’s dildo.TheScreamingEagles said:
Burgon is a man so dense light bends around him.Nigelb said:
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=20
Things more useful than Richard Burgon
Chocolate tea pot
Concrete pillow
A nun's dildo
A crocheted condom
Nipples on a breastplate
An ashtray on a motorbike
Italy as an ally in World War II0 -
....says 67 weeks of viewing on PornHub.....ydoethur said:
TSE, without going into details I think you may perhaps be slightly out in your estimation of the usefulness of a nun’s dildo.TheScreamingEagles said:
Burgon is a man so dense light bends around him.Nigelb said:
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=20
Things more useful than Richard Burgon
Chocolate tea pot
Concrete pillow
A nun's dildo
A crocheted condom
Nipples on a breastplate
An ashtray on a motorbike
Italy as an ally in World War II0 -
I'm a good innocent Muslim boy.ydoethur said:
TSE, without going into details I think you may perhaps be slightly out in your estimation of the usefulness of a nun’s dildo.TheScreamingEagles said:
Burgon is a man so dense light bends around him.Nigelb said:
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=20
Things more useful than Richard Burgon
Chocolate tea pot
Concrete pillow
A nun's dildo
A crocheted condom
Nipples on a breastplate
An ashtray on a motorbike
Italy as an ally in World War II
I maybe showing my naiveté.0 -
If Remain had won, they'd have broken as decisively for Wrong as well. That's just how people are.SandyRentool said:Looking at the graph, non-Ref voters must break heavily for 'Wrong'.
Presumably a lot of these were too young to vote in 2016.
Er, [Citation needed].0 -
How many airlines are you banned from again?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm a good innocent Muslim boy.ydoethur said:
TSE, without going into details I think you may perhaps be slightly out in your estimation of the usefulness of a nun’s dildo.TheScreamingEagles said:
Burgon is a man so dense light bends around him.Nigelb said:
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=20
Things more useful than Richard Burgon
Chocolate tea pot
Concrete pillow
A nun's dildo
A crocheted condom
Nipples on a breastplate
An ashtray on a motorbike
Italy as an ally in World War II0 -
I assume for violating the dress code?ydoethur said:
How many airlines are you banned from again?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm a good innocent Muslim boy.ydoethur said:
TSE, without going into details I think you may perhaps be slightly out in your estimation of the usefulness of a nun’s dildo.TheScreamingEagles said:
Burgon is a man so dense light bends around him.Nigelb said:
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=20
Things more useful than Richard Burgon
Chocolate tea pot
Concrete pillow
A nun's dildo
A crocheted condom
Nipples on a breastplate
An ashtray on a motorbike
Italy as an ally in World War II
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This digital world with people constantly parading themselves on social media is impossible for me to connect with.....TheScreamingEagles said:
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Just the one.ydoethur said:
How many airlines are you banned from again?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm a good innocent Muslim boy.ydoethur said:
TSE, without going into details I think you may perhaps be slightly out in your estimation of the usefulness of a nun’s dildo.TheScreamingEagles said:
Burgon is a man so dense light bends around him.Nigelb said:
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=20
Things more useful than Richard Burgon
Chocolate tea pot
Concrete pillow
A nun's dildo
A crocheted condom
Nipples on a breastplate
An ashtray on a motorbike
Italy as an ally in World War II
Still amazed to this day Virgin didn't ban me when my friend in a very drunken state decided to begin a conversation about suicide bombers on our flight.2 -
Wait until you see 7G, and 8G, and 9G.Malmesbury said:
I saw that - read it even. Yes, gone in 10 years if possible. Stealing the latest and greatest will help enormously with 6G or whatever they will brand the next generation.ralphmalph said:
https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/the-future-of-telecoms-in-the-ukMalmesbury said:Just got in from work so missed the last thread -
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear.
2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to"
3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA.
4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight.
5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.
I think all this fuss is not worth it.
It reminds me of the all the hype over the newest iphones, is it really that important to have 3 cameras on a phone ?
In the end I think it's a marketing ploy.
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How did the suicide bombers on your flight react to this?TheScreamingEagles said:Still amazed to this day Virgin didn't ban me when my friend in a very drunken state decided to begin a conversation about suicide bombers on our flight.
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Fortunately there were none on this flight.ydoethur said:
How did the suicide bombers on your flight react to this?TheScreamingEagles said:Still amazed to this day Virgin didn't ban me when my friend in a very drunken state decided to begin a conversation about suicide bombers on our flight.
For context this flight was a few weeks after this.
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A little harsh on the Italians who at least conquered Ethiopia....not good comparisonTheScreamingEagles said:
Burgon is a man so dense light bends around him.Nigelb said:
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=20
Things more useful than Richard Burgon
Chocolate tea pot
Concrete pillow
A nun's dildo
A crocheted condom
Nipples on a breastplate
An ashtray on a motorbike
Italy as an ally in World War II
I don't know what a crocheted condom is so cannot comment
But....a nun's dildo.....that is far in away something that Burgon couldn't even comprehend even in his highest moment of triumph....
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I rather think that 5G will be rather as 3G went - a great disappointment at first, then becomes an essential part of the landscape.speedy2 said:
Wait until you see 7G, and 8G, and 9G.Malmesbury said:
I saw that - read it even. Yes, gone in 10 years if possible. Stealing the latest and greatest will help enormously with 6G or whatever they will brand the next generation.ralphmalph said:
https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/the-future-of-telecoms-in-the-ukMalmesbury said:Just got in from work so missed the last thread -
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear.
2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to"
3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA.
4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight.
5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.
I think all this fuss is not worth it.
It reminds me of the all the hype over the newest iphones, is it really that important to have 3 cameras on a phone ?
In the end I think it's a marketing ploy.
The discovery that the phenomenal download rates disappear when you walk inside buildings etc will put a lot of people off.
What will be interesting will be the combination of 5G and Starlink - so you will be able to roll out 5G in remote areas cheaply, with Starlink doing the back haul. So, in theory, you could put up a mast in the middle of nowhere, with some solar cells and batteries. Instant GB/s internet.0 -
You mean you have four wives???TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm a good innocent Muslim boy.ydoethur said:
TSE, without going into details I think you may perhaps be slightly out in your estimation of the usefulness of a nun’s dildo.TheScreamingEagles said:
Burgon is a man so dense light bends around him.Nigelb said:
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=20
Things more useful than Richard Burgon
Chocolate tea pot
Concrete pillow
A nun's dildo
A crocheted condom
Nipples on a breastplate
An ashtray on a motorbike
Italy as an ally in World War II
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And yet, he might surprise us all...TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=20
“ No one would have believed in the early years of the twenty-first century that this government was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than that of cabinet ministers and yet as mortal as their own; that as Tories busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency Tories went to and fro across Westminster about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over politics. It is possible that the infusoria under the microscope do the same. No one gave a thought to the older world of Labour as sources of political danger, or thought of them only to dismiss the idea of original thought within it as impossible or improbable. It is curious to recall some of the mental habits of those departed days....
Yet across the gulf of politics, minds that are to Tory minds as theirs are to those of the MRLP, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this government front bench with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against it. And early in the twenty-first century came the great disillusionment....”
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Did somebody say Villa each way?
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The GE provides no real indication of whether voters think Brexit was a mistake or not. FPTP gave Johnson his big majority rather than the voters - the parties wanting a second vote comfortably outpolled those that didn't and of course many remainers voted Tory out of fear of Corbyn.brokenwheel said:As remainiacs breathlessly relayed to us for three years "wrong" had been leading this question since the referendum, and yet made no difference to the election.
Johnson certainly now has the chance to deliver on the implied benefits of Brexit but all polling suggests that more voters still remain convinced it was a mistake than think it was the correct decision and I don't see that reversing for a very long time and I expect the gap to widen not narrow as we deal with the reality0 -
Don't you mean France??TheScreamingEagles said:
Italy as an ally in World War II0 -
Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.0 -
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?CatMan said:Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.0 -
It's one of those technologies that I struggle to find any practical usage, is it really that much important ?Malmesbury said:
I rather think that 5G will be rather as 3G went - a great disappointment at first, then becomes an essential part of the landscape.speedy2 said:
Wait until you see 7G, and 8G, and 9G.Malmesbury said:
I saw that - read it even. Yes, gone in 10 years if possible. Stealing the latest and greatest will help enormously with 6G or whatever they will brand the next generation.ralphmalph said:
https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/the-future-of-telecoms-in-the-ukMalmesbury said:Just got in from work so missed the last thread -
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear.
2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to"
3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA.
4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight.
5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.
I think all this fuss is not worth it.
It reminds me of the all the hype over the newest iphones, is it really that important to have 3 cameras on a phone ?
In the end I think it's a marketing ploy.
The discovery that the phenomenal download rates disappear when you walk inside buildings etc will put a lot of people off.
What will be interesting will be the combination of 5G and Starlink - so you will be able to roll out 5G in remote areas cheaply, with Starlink doing the back haul. So, in theory, you could put up a mast in the middle of nowhere, with some solar cells and batteries. Instant GB/s internet.
And in the middle of nowhere where are you going to find customers ?
The only thing that I see is a mature technology that offers diminishing returns with every upgrade.0 -
Maybe nun of them use dildos though.Sunil_Prasannan said:
You mean you have four wives???TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm a good innocent Muslim boy.ydoethur said:
TSE, without going into details I think you may perhaps be slightly out in your estimation of the usefulness of a nun’s dildo.TheScreamingEagles said:
Burgon is a man so dense light bends around him.Nigelb said:
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=20
Things more useful than Richard Burgon
Chocolate tea pot
Concrete pillow
A nun's dildo
A crocheted condom
Nipples on a breastplate
An ashtray on a motorbike
Italy as an ally in World War II
.
I’ll get my dressing gown.
Good night.0 -
Errr none. The increased economic growth will more than pay for it. Plus the benefit of all those extra EU Doctors and Nurses who will be able to come over and work in them.MarqueeMark said:
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?CatMan said:Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
Or we could just borrow the money, that doesn't seem to be a problem at the moment
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Vive La France...Sunil_Prasannan said:
Don't you mean France??TheScreamingEagles said:
Italy as an ally in World War II
(Sorry, I'm feeling emotional, I've just picked up my French passport. Now all I need to do is *learn* French and I'll be set for life)0 -
It’s not about your mobile phone - rather the capacity to connect with orders of magnitude of more stuff.speedy2 said:
It's one of those technologies that I struggle to find any practical usage, is it really that much important ?Malmesbury said:
I rather think that 5G will be rather as 3G went - a great disappointment at first, then becomes an essential part of the landscape.speedy2 said:
Wait until you see 7G, and 8G, and 9G.Malmesbury said:
I saw that - read it even. Yes, gone in 10 years if possible. Stealing the latest and greatest will help enormously with 6G or whatever they will brand the next generation.ralphmalph said:
https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/the-future-of-telecoms-in-the-ukMalmesbury said:Just got in from work so missed the last thread -
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear.
2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to"
3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA.
4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight.
5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.
I think all this fuss is not worth it.
It reminds me of the all the hype over the newest iphones, is it really that important to have 3 cameras on a phone ?
In the end I think it's a marketing ploy.
The discovery that the phenomenal download rates disappear when you walk inside buildings etc will put a lot of people off.
What will be interesting will be the combination of 5G and Starlink - so you will be able to roll out 5G in remote areas cheaply, with Starlink doing the back haul. So, in theory, you could put up a mast in the middle of nowhere, with some solar cells and batteries. Instant GB/s internet.
And in the middle of nowhere where are you going to find customers ?
The only thing that I see is a mature technology that offers diminishing returns with every upgrade.
Most of us would struggle to find practical usage - but most of us aren’t developing the next generation of tech.
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More interesting conversation than Brexit anyway.TheScreamingEagles said:
Just the one.ydoethur said:
How many airlines are you banned from again?TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm a good innocent Muslim boy.ydoethur said:
TSE, without going into details I think you may perhaps be slightly out in your estimation of the usefulness of a nun’s dildo.TheScreamingEagles said:
Burgon is a man so dense light bends around him.Nigelb said:
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?TheScreamingEagles said:
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.ydoethur said:
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.matt said:
Somebody who makes them look good?ydoethur said:
What do people see in Richard Burgon?CarlottaVance said:Well, he would, wouldn't he...
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=20
Things more useful than Richard Burgon
Chocolate tea pot
Concrete pillow
A nun's dildo
A crocheted condom
Nipples on a breastplate
An ashtray on a motorbike
Italy as an ally in World War II
Still amazed to this day Virgin didn't ban me when my friend in a very drunken state decided to begin a conversation about suicide bombers on our flight.0 -
It means that the suddenly you can get high speed internet in bits of the country which aren't in cities. I know people 30 minutes from London mainline stations who would kill for that. It's quite often a limiting factor ing working from home.speedy2 said:
It's one of those technologies that I struggle to find any practical usage, is it really that much important ?Malmesbury said:
I rather think that 5G will be rather as 3G went - a great disappointment at first, then becomes an essential part of the landscape.speedy2 said:
Wait until you see 7G, and 8G, and 9G.Malmesbury said:
I saw that - read it even. Yes, gone in 10 years if possible. Stealing the latest and greatest will help enormously with 6G or whatever they will brand the next generation.ralphmalph said:
https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/the-future-of-telecoms-in-the-ukMalmesbury said:Just got in from work so missed the last thread -
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear.
2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to"
3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA.
4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight.
5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.
I think all this fuss is not worth it.
It reminds me of the all the hype over the newest iphones, is it really that important to have 3 cameras on a phone ?
In the end I think it's a marketing ploy.
The discovery that the phenomenal download rates disappear when you walk inside buildings etc will put a lot of people off.
What will be interesting will be the combination of 5G and Starlink - so you will be able to roll out 5G in remote areas cheaply, with Starlink doing the back haul. So, in theory, you could put up a mast in the middle of nowhere, with some solar cells and batteries. Instant GB/s internet.
And in the middle of nowhere where are you going to find customers ?
The only thing that I see is a mature technology that offers diminishing returns with every upgrade.0 -
That would be from the Brerentry dividend.... OK, I need to work on that.MarqueeMark said:
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?CatMan said:Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.0 -
It's gone. Give it up.CatMan said:
Errr none. The increased economic growth will more than pay for it. Plus the benefit of all those extra EU Doctors and Nurses who will be able to come over and work in them.MarqueeMark said:
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?CatMan said:Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
Or we could just borrow the money, that doesn't seem to be a problem at the moment0 -
By the time we rejoin we will have fallen so far behind the EU average that we will not make a net contribution.CatMan said:
Errr none. The increased economic growth will more than pay for it. Plus the benefit of all those extra EU Doctors and Nurses who will be able to come over and work in them.MarqueeMark said:
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?CatMan said:Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
Or we could just borrow the money, that doesn't seem to be a problem at the moment3 -
Lol, I gave up a long time ago!MarqueeMark said:
It's gone. Give it up.CatMan said:
Errr none. The increased economic growth will more than pay for it. Plus the benefit of all those extra EU Doctors and Nurses who will be able to come over and work in them.MarqueeMark said:
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?CatMan said:Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
Or we could just borrow the money, that doesn't seem to be a problem at the moment0 -
Nah, as you can see from the header, Brexit is more unpopular than ever.MarqueeMark said:
It's gone. Give it up.CatMan said:
Errr none. The increased economic growth will more than pay for it. Plus the benefit of all those extra EU Doctors and Nurses who will be able to come over and work in them.MarqueeMark said:
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?CatMan said:Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
Or we could just borrow the money, that doesn't seem to be a problem at the moment0 -
Lots of people around tonight who seem to think Remain "won the argument".1
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If it's not about phones or computers then it's not important.Nigelb said:
It’s not about your mobile phone - rather the capacity to connect with orders of magnitude of more stuff.
Most of us would struggle to find practical usage - but most of us aren’t developing the next generation of tech.0 -
Brejoin, surely.Nigelb said:
That would be from the Brerentry dividend.... OK, I need to work on that.MarqueeMark said:
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?CatMan said:Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.0 -
Tories 365Foxy said:
Nah, as you can see from the header, Brexit is more unpopular than ever.MarqueeMark said:
It's gone. Give it up.CatMan said:
Errr none. The increased economic growth will more than pay for it. Plus the benefit of all those extra EU Doctors and Nurses who will be able to come over and work in them.MarqueeMark said:
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?CatMan said:Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
Or we could just borrow the money, that doesn't seem to be a problem at the moment
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"The FCO advise against all but essential travel to the rest of mainland China (not including Hong Kong and Macao)."
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/china0 -
You can get a French passport without speaking French?CatMan said:
Vive La France...Sunil_Prasannan said:
Don't you mean France??TheScreamingEagles said:
Italy as an ally in World War II
(Sorry, I'm feeling emotional, I've just picked up my French passport. Now all I need to do is *learn* French and I'll be set for life)
Wow. They've changed.0 -
On 31 January the pissed-off bandwagon of Leavers angry that they didn't get what they want is about to be replaced by a pissed-off bandwagon of ex-Remainers etc etc. It's easier to represent the angry losers than the complacent winners. Ask Boris.0
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In 2056 - if there is such an argument to be made - it's far more likely to be about a level of Western political and economic union, including the US and Anglosphere as well as the EU, which we might have a greater level of comfort with.CatMan said:
Well it didn't in 2016. In 2056, who knows...Endillion said:Lots of people around tonight who seem to think Remain "won the argument".
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And, the pissed-off bandwagon of ex-Remainers will have the real economy on their side.EPG said:On 31 January the pissed-off bandwagon of Leavers angry that they didn't get what they want is about to be replaced by a pissed-off bandwagon of ex-Remainers etc etc. It's easier to represent the angry losers than the complacent winners. Ask Boris.
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I have a French mother, so luckily for me that gives me French citizenship. Unfortunately growing up I was crap at languages, so I never really bothered. I'm trying to rectify it now though!speedy2 said:
You can get a French passport without speaking French?
Wow. They've changed.0 -
[swaggering] Man, I've got GCSE A-grades in both German AND FrenchCatMan said:
I have a French mother, so luckily for me that makes me a French National. Unfortunately growing up I was crap at languages, so I never really bothered. I'm trying to rectify it now though!speedy2 said:
You can get a French passport without speaking French?
Wow. They've changed. 0 -
The House of Bourbon walks amongst us yet....
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1222282766617845761?s=200
