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Today’s YouGov poll will probably be the last one before Britain leaves the EU on Friday evening. I do hope that the firm will continue its regular Brexit tracker question which has been put in the same way since the referendum in June 2016 .
Just picking up on an earthquake in the Caribbean - one can only hope damage and loss of life is at a minimum.
On topic, the graphic shows the Conservative vote coalition from last December to perfection - 75% of LEAVE voters (36% of thr total based on the prevailing 52-48 split in favour of REMAIN rather than the 23/6/16 result).
Add to that the two much smaller groups - REMAIN voters terrified by the prospect of Corbyn and REMAIN voters who, for all they are opposed to the decision to leave the EU recognise the need for it to happen in democratic terms and therefore endorsed Johnson as the route to enacting the 23/6/16 referendum decision.
Once again I find myself in the ultimate minority - I am representative of no one but myself (it seems).
First. And aren't the colours the wrong way around?
Seems so
I predict what will happen is; a small bunch of people who want to be in the EU will go on about it a lot with great gusto, similar to the likes of Farage, James Goldsmith and a few ERG Tories in the 90s and early 2000s, while most people wont be all that bothered, like most people apart from those I have mentioned at that time.
What Remain need is something, something with a tangible effect on peoples lives, to happen that wouldn't have done if we were still in the EU. For Leave it was the Freedom of Movement from A8 countries in 2004
Just picking up on an earthquake in the Caribbean - one can only hope damage and loss of life is at a minimum.
On topic, the graphic shows the Conservative vote coalition from last December to perfection - 75% of LEAVE voters (36% of thr total based on the prevailing 52-48 split in favour of REMAIN rather than the 23/6/16 result).
Add to that the two much smaller groups - REMAIN voters terrified by the prospect of Corbyn and REMAIN voters who, for all they are opposed to the decision to leave the EU recognise the need for it to happen in democratic terms and therefore endorsed Johnson as the route to enacting the 23/6/16 referendum decision.
Once again I find myself in the ultimate minority - I am representative of no one but myself (it seems).
A Tsunami warning has just been issued for that area.
Boris will most likely get the presentation right. Wherever we're going it'll be an adventure, and that's fine. The bad things will arrive, but it'll be dealt with (who knows how well).
If Boris actually gets this right he'll be pint-buying-worthy across the land.
Despite his faults, if had to choose one person that might, it's him.
Just picking up on an earthquake in the Caribbean - one can only hope damage and loss of life is at a minimum.
On topic, the graphic shows the Conservative vote coalition from last December to perfection - 75% of LEAVE voters (36% of thr total based on the prevailing 52-48 split in favour of REMAIN rather than the 23/6/16 result).
Add to that the two much smaller groups - REMAIN voters terrified by the prospect of Corbyn and REMAIN voters who, for all they are opposed to the decision to leave the EU recognise the need for it to happen in democratic terms and therefore endorsed Johnson as the route to enacting the 23/6/16 referendum decision.
Once again I find myself in the ultimate minority - I am representative of no one but myself (it seems).
A Tsunami warning has just been issued for that area.
There was that nasty earthquake in nearby Haiti in 2010
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear. 2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to" 3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA. 4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight. 5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear. 2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to" 3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA. 4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight. 5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear. 2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to" 3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA. 4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight. 5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
As remainiacs breathlessly relayed to us for three years "wrong" had been leading this question since the referendum, and yet made no difference to the election.
Surely the Liberal Democrats are going to be the subject of a complaint under the Trade Descriptions Act?
Well, I'm told Labour no longer represents the workers and the Conservatives don't want to conserve anything so perhaps all three parties are guilty of misrepresentation or perhaps you're just being boring, who can say?
Surely the Liberal Democrats are going to be the subject of a complaint under the Trade Descriptions Act?
Well, I'm told Labour no longer represents the workers and the Conservatives don't want to conserve anything so perhaps all three parties are guilty of misrepresentation or perhaps you're just being boring, who can say?
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear. 2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to" 3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA. 4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight. 5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.
I saw that - read it even. Yes, gone in 10 years if possible. Stealing the latest and greatest will help enormously with 6G or whatever they will brand the next generation.
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear. 2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to" 3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA. 4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight. 5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.
I saw that - read it even. Yes, gone in 10 years if possible. Stealing the latest and greatest will help enormously with 6G or whatever they will brand the next generation.
Surely the Liberal Democrats are going to be the subject of a complaint under the Trade Descriptions Act?
Well, I'm told Labour no longer represents the workers and the Conservatives don't want to conserve anything so perhaps all three parties are guilty of misrepresentation or perhaps you're just being boring, who can say?
No I think that you have a point. We should insist we have The greedy or retired party The public sector party The we know better party.
Actually there is an argument that the last applies to them all.
ON topic my experience is that Remainers still generally think that it was a bad decision to Leave, but most are now resigned to it, many think endless ongoing chaos (with Corbyn??) was worse, even more now realise a 2nd vote would have been dangerous (and quite possibly lost, again).
The nation is united behind a kind of "OK fuck it, we voted for it, let's just get on and do it, whatever", sort of mood. Rather British, really.
Surely the Liberal Democrats are going to be the subject of a complaint under the Trade Descriptions Act?
Well, I'm told Labour no longer represents the workers and the Conservatives don't want to conserve anything so perhaps all three parties are guilty of misrepresentation or perhaps you're just being boring, who can say?
No I think that you have a point. We should insist we have The greedy or retired party The public sector party The we know better party.
Actually there is an argument that the last applies to them all.
The Putney Party - motto "Cromwell and Wellington were right" - policy platform of reversing the 1832 reform act and restricting the franchise to men of property....
ON topic my experience is that Remainers still generally think that it was a bad decision to Leave, but most are now resigned to it, many think endless ongoing chaos (with Corbyn??) was worse, even more now realise a 2nd vote would have been dangerous (and quite possibly lost, again).
The nation is united behind a kind of "OK fuck it, we voted for it, let's just get on and do it, whatever", sort of mood. Rather British, really.
If only they had settled into that mood in August 2016, eh?
ON topic my experience is that Remainers still generally think that it was a bad decision to Leave, but most are now resigned to it, many think endless ongoing chaos (with Corbyn??) was worse, even more now realise a 2nd vote would have been dangerous (and quite possibly lost, again).
The nation is united behind a kind of "OK fuck it, we voted for it, let's just get on and do it, whatever", sort of mood. Rather British, really.
You're leaping a lot here. Your experience to a summary of the nation. I think you're right mind.
Boris has a wonderful lacuna to work out what he's going to do.
There's great risk here, so lets hope he gets much of it right. Oddly the hopelessness of the arguments of the left will help him - he doesn't need to take them into account.
In April, when the slithy Starmer emerges from his place amongst the toves, things will change. Perhaps though only a little.
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?
Burgon is a man so dense light bends around him.
Things more useful than Richard Burgon
Chocolate tea pot
Concrete pillow
A nun's dildo
A crocheted condom
Nipples on a breastplate
An ashtray on a motorbike
Italy as an ally in World War II
TSE, without going into details I think you may perhaps be slightly out in your estimation of the usefulness of a nun’s dildo.
I'm a good innocent Muslim boy.
How many airlines are you banned from again?
Just the one.
Still amazed to this day Virgin didn't ban me when my friend in a very drunken state decided to begin a conversation about suicide bombers on our flight.
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear. 2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to" 3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA. 4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight. 5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.
I saw that - read it even. Yes, gone in 10 years if possible. Stealing the latest and greatest will help enormously with 6G or whatever they will brand the next generation.
Wait until you see 7G, and 8G, and 9G.
I think all this fuss is not worth it. It reminds me of the all the hype over the newest iphones, is it really that important to have 3 cameras on a phone ?
Still amazed to this day Virgin didn't ban me when my friend in a very drunken state decided to begin a conversation about suicide bombers on our flight.
How did the suicide bombers on your flight react to this?
Still amazed to this day Virgin didn't ban me when my friend in a very drunken state decided to begin a conversation about suicide bombers on our flight.
How did the suicide bombers on your flight react to this?
Fortunately there were none on this flight.
For context this flight was a few weeks after this.
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear. 2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to" 3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA. 4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight. 5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.
I saw that - read it even. Yes, gone in 10 years if possible. Stealing the latest and greatest will help enormously with 6G or whatever they will brand the next generation.
Wait until you see 7G, and 8G, and 9G.
I think all this fuss is not worth it. It reminds me of the all the hype over the newest iphones, is it really that important to have 3 cameras on a phone ?
In the end I think it's a marketing ploy.
I rather think that 5G will be rather as 3G went - a great disappointment at first, then becomes an essential part of the landscape.
The discovery that the phenomenal download rates disappear when you walk inside buildings etc will put a lot of people off.
What will be interesting will be the combination of 5G and Starlink - so you will be able to roll out 5G in remote areas cheaply, with Starlink doing the back haul. So, in theory, you could put up a mast in the middle of nowhere, with some solar cells and batteries. Instant GB/s internet.
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.
And yet, he might surprise us all... “ No one would have believed in the early years of the twenty-first century that this government was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than that of cabinet ministers and yet as mortal as their own; that as Tories busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency Tories went to and fro across Westminster about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over politics. It is possible that the infusoria under the microscope do the same. No one gave a thought to the older world of Labour as sources of political danger, or thought of them only to dismiss the idea of original thought within it as impossible or improbable. It is curious to recall some of the mental habits of those departed days.... Yet across the gulf of politics, minds that are to Tory minds as theirs are to those of the MRLP, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this government front bench with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against it. And early in the twenty-first century came the great disillusionment....”
As remainiacs breathlessly relayed to us for three years "wrong" had been leading this question since the referendum, and yet made no difference to the election.
The GE provides no real indication of whether voters think Brexit was a mistake or not. FPTP gave Johnson his big majority rather than the voters - the parties wanting a second vote comfortably outpolled those that didn't and of course many remainers voted Tory out of fear of Corbyn.
Johnson certainly now has the chance to deliver on the implied benefits of Brexit but all polling suggests that more voters still remain convinced it was a mistake than think it was the correct decision and I don't see that reversing for a very long time and I expect the gap to widen not narrow as we deal with the reality
Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear. 2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to" 3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA. 4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight. 5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.
I saw that - read it even. Yes, gone in 10 years if possible. Stealing the latest and greatest will help enormously with 6G or whatever they will brand the next generation.
Wait until you see 7G, and 8G, and 9G.
I think all this fuss is not worth it. It reminds me of the all the hype over the newest iphones, is it really that important to have 3 cameras on a phone ?
In the end I think it's a marketing ploy.
I rather think that 5G will be rather as 3G went - a great disappointment at first, then becomes an essential part of the landscape.
The discovery that the phenomenal download rates disappear when you walk inside buildings etc will put a lot of people off.
What will be interesting will be the combination of 5G and Starlink - so you will be able to roll out 5G in remote areas cheaply, with Starlink doing the back haul. So, in theory, you could put up a mast in the middle of nowhere, with some solar cells and batteries. Instant GB/s internet.
It's one of those technologies that I struggle to find any practical usage, is it really that much important ?
And in the middle of nowhere where are you going to find customers ?
The only thing that I see is a mature technology that offers diminishing returns with every upgrade.
Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?
Errr none. The increased economic growth will more than pay for it. Plus the benefit of all those extra EU Doctors and Nurses who will be able to come over and work in them.
Or we could just borrow the money, that doesn't seem to be a problem at the moment
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear. 2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to" 3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA. 4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight. 5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.
I saw that - read it even. Yes, gone in 10 years if possible. Stealing the latest and greatest will help enormously with 6G or whatever they will brand the next generation.
Wait until you see 7G, and 8G, and 9G.
I think all this fuss is not worth it. It reminds me of the all the hype over the newest iphones, is it really that important to have 3 cameras on a phone ?
In the end I think it's a marketing ploy.
I rather think that 5G will be rather as 3G went - a great disappointment at first, then becomes an essential part of the landscape.
The discovery that the phenomenal download rates disappear when you walk inside buildings etc will put a lot of people off.
What will be interesting will be the combination of 5G and Starlink - so you will be able to roll out 5G in remote areas cheaply, with Starlink doing the back haul. So, in theory, you could put up a mast in the middle of nowhere, with some solar cells and batteries. Instant GB/s internet.
It's one of those technologies that I struggle to find any practical usage, is it really that much important ?
And in the middle of nowhere where are you going to find customers ?
The only thing that I see is a mature technology that offers diminishing returns with every upgrade.
It’s not about your mobile phone - rather the capacity to connect with orders of magnitude of more stuff. Most of us would struggle to find practical usage - but most of us aren’t developing the next generation of tech.
I hope my self esteem never falls so low that the only way of feeling good is reflecting that I am more intelligent than Richard Burgon.
I think you're all misunderestimating Richard Burgon.
What, just standing next to him can cause your IQ to drop ?
Burgon is a man so dense light bends around him.
Things more useful than Richard Burgon
Chocolate tea pot
Concrete pillow
A nun's dildo
A crocheted condom
Nipples on a breastplate
An ashtray on a motorbike
Italy as an ally in World War II
TSE, without going into details I think you may perhaps be slightly out in your estimation of the usefulness of a nun’s dildo.
I'm a good innocent Muslim boy.
How many airlines are you banned from again?
Just the one.
Still amazed to this day Virgin didn't ban me when my friend in a very drunken state decided to begin a conversation about suicide bombers on our flight.
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear. 2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to" 3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA. 4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight. 5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.
I saw that - read it even. Yes, gone in 10 years if possible. Stealing the latest and greatest will help enormously with 6G or whatever they will brand the next generation.
Wait until you see 7G, and 8G, and 9G.
I think all this fuss is not worth it. It reminds me of the all the hype over the newest iphones, is it really that important to have 3 cameras on a phone ?
In the end I think it's a marketing ploy.
I rather think that 5G will be rather as 3G went - a great disappointment at first, then becomes an essential part of the landscape.
The discovery that the phenomenal download rates disappear when you walk inside buildings etc will put a lot of people off.
What will be interesting will be the combination of 5G and Starlink - so you will be able to roll out 5G in remote areas cheaply, with Starlink doing the back haul. So, in theory, you could put up a mast in the middle of nowhere, with some solar cells and batteries. Instant GB/s internet.
It's one of those technologies that I struggle to find any practical usage, is it really that much important ?
And in the middle of nowhere where are you going to find customers ?
The only thing that I see is a mature technology that offers diminishing returns with every upgrade.
It means that the suddenly you can get high speed internet in bits of the country which aren't in cities. I know people 30 minutes from London mainline stations who would kill for that. It's quite often a limiting factor ing working from home.
Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?
That would be from the Brerentry dividend.... OK, I need to work on that.
Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?
Errr none. The increased economic growth will more than pay for it. Plus the benefit of all those extra EU Doctors and Nurses who will be able to come over and work in them.
Or we could just borrow the money, that doesn't seem to be a problem at the moment
Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?
Errr none. The increased economic growth will more than pay for it. Plus the benefit of all those extra EU Doctors and Nurses who will be able to come over and work in them.
Or we could just borrow the money, that doesn't seem to be a problem at the moment
By the time we rejoin we will have fallen so far behind the EU average that we will not make a net contribution.
Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?
Errr none. The increased economic growth will more than pay for it. Plus the benefit of all those extra EU Doctors and Nurses who will be able to come over and work in them.
Or we could just borrow the money, that doesn't seem to be a problem at the moment
Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?
Errr none. The increased economic growth will more than pay for it. Plus the benefit of all those extra EU Doctors and Nurses who will be able to come over and work in them.
Or we could just borrow the money, that doesn't seem to be a problem at the moment
It's gone. Give it up.
Nah, as you can see from the header, Brexit is more unpopular than ever.
It’s not about your mobile phone - rather the capacity to connect with orders of magnitude of more stuff. Most of us would struggle to find practical usage - but most of us aren’t developing the next generation of tech.
If it's not about phones or computers then it's not important.
Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?
That would be from the Brerentry dividend.... OK, I need to work on that.
Maybe I'm talking bollocks (which is very possible), but unless Brexit turns out to be a massive success (and I'm not sure what that actually would be), rejoining the EU is something that is going to be a part of the political discord for a long time, especially if the support for it amongst the under 45s remains. Also the Scottish and Northern Ireland aspect of it all isn't going to go away.
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
And which hospitals will you close to pay for the rejoining membership fees?
Errr none. The increased economic growth will more than pay for it. Plus the benefit of all those extra EU Doctors and Nurses who will be able to come over and work in them.
Or we could just borrow the money, that doesn't seem to be a problem at the moment
It's gone. Give it up.
Nah, as you can see from the header, Brexit is more unpopular than ever.
On 31 January the pissed-off bandwagon of Leavers angry that they didn't get what they want is about to be replaced by a pissed-off bandwagon of ex-Remainers etc etc. It's easier to represent the angry losers than the complacent winners. Ask Boris.
Lots of people around tonight who seem to think Remain "won the argument".
Well it didn't in 2016. In 2056, who knows...
In 2056 - if there is such an argument to be made - it's far more likely to be about a level of Western political and economic union, including the US and Anglosphere as well as the EU, which we might have a greater level of comfort with.
So, there will be something for everyone there so all sides can continue to claim to have been right all along.
On 31 January the pissed-off bandwagon of Leavers angry that they didn't get what they want is about to be replaced by a pissed-off bandwagon of ex-Remainers etc etc. It's easier to represent the angry losers than the complacent winners. Ask Boris.
And, the pissed-off bandwagon of ex-Remainers will have the real economy on their side.
You can get a French passport without speaking French?
Wow. They've changed.
I have a French mother, so luckily for me that gives me French citizenship. Unfortunately growing up I was crap at languages, so I never really bothered. I'm trying to rectify it now though!
You can get a French passport without speaking French?
Wow. They've changed.
I have a French mother, so luckily for me that makes me a French National. Unfortunately growing up I was crap at languages, so I never really bothered. I'm trying to rectify it now though!
[swaggering] Man, I've got GCSE A-grades in both German AND French
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Just picking up on an earthquake in the Caribbean - one can only hope damage and loss of life is at a minimum.
On topic, the graphic shows the Conservative vote coalition from last December to perfection - 75% of LEAVE voters (36% of thr total based on the prevailing 52-48 split in favour of REMAIN rather than the 23/6/16 result).
Add to that the two much smaller groups - REMAIN voters terrified by the prospect of Corbyn and REMAIN voters who, for all they are opposed to the decision to leave the EU recognise the need for it to happen in democratic terms and therefore endorsed Johnson as the route to enacting the 23/6/16 referendum decision.
Once again I find myself in the ultimate minority - I am representative of no one but myself (it seems).
I predict what will happen is; a small bunch of people who want to be in the EU will go on about it a lot with great gusto, similar to the likes of Farage, James Goldsmith and a few ERG Tories in the 90s and early 2000s, while most people wont be all that bothered, like most people apart from those I have mentioned at that time.
What Remain need is something, something with a tangible effect on peoples lives, to happen that wouldn't have done if we were still in the EU. For Leave it was the Freedom of Movement from A8 countries in 2004
If Boris actually gets this right he'll be pint-buying-worthy across the land.
Despite his faults, if had to choose one person that might, it's him.
1) The Huawei plan is obviously the work of technical advisors. As an IT professional, this seems pretty clear.
2) The people who are doing the analysis of the Huawei kit & code are real experts, as opposed to "my expertise comes from the job I have been appointed to"
3) There seems to be a pattern developing for this government - not in the EU, but closer to Europe than Trump led USA.
4) The comments from the non-techincal opposition to the deal are a delight.
5) No one seems to have noticed the kicker - that Huawei is committed by this to handing over all their source code and kit to a well funded UK government lab for analysis. So we get to steal everything from them. Ready for the next generation...
On topic -
No matter what the PM says or does, it will offend Mr Meeks of this parish. The only question is, in the inevitable poll of the aftermath, whether "inappropriate" gets 13% or 37%.
I recommend you read the above. Seems to me Huawei kit will be gone from UK networks in 10 years.
Nobody "knows". As is acknowledged in the main question. Not "were" we right to leave the EU, but do you "think" we were right to leave the EU.
Pollsters should sort this sort of stuff out. It's important.
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1222197910525435907?s=20
All of them except the Secretary. He wasn’t at home.
Why do we let people vote?
https://twitter.com/OfficialNTAs/status/1222254041792761857
We should insist we have
The greedy or retired party
The public sector party
The we know better party.
Actually there is an argument that the last applies to them all.
https://twitter.com/chrisjollyhale/status/1222257575250579458
The nation is united behind a kind of "OK fuck it, we voted for it, let's just get on and do it, whatever", sort of mood. Rather British, really.
Especially the MPs.
There is some evidence for the existence of Bigfoot.
Boris has a wonderful lacuna to work out what he's going to do.
There's great risk here, so lets hope he gets much of it right. Oddly the hopelessness of the arguments of the left will help him - he doesn't need to take them into account.
In April, when the slithy Starmer emerges from his place amongst the toves, things will change. Perhaps though only a little.
In December things will change more.
Presumably a lot of these were too young to vote in 2016.
Things more useful than Richard Burgon
Chocolate tea pot
Concrete pillow
A nun's dildo
A crocheted condom
Nipples on a breastplate
An ashtray on a motorbike
Italy as an ally in World War II
I maybe showing my naiveté.
Er, [Citation needed].
Still amazed to this day Virgin didn't ban me when my friend in a very drunken state decided to begin a conversation about suicide bombers on our flight.
I think all this fuss is not worth it.
It reminds me of the all the hype over the newest iphones, is it really that important to have 3 cameras on a phone ?
In the end I think it's a marketing ploy.
For context this flight was a few weeks after this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_transatlantic_aircraft_plot
I don't know what a crocheted condom is so cannot comment
But....a nun's dildo.....that is far in away something that Burgon couldn't even comprehend even in his highest moment of triumph....
The discovery that the phenomenal download rates disappear when you walk inside buildings etc will put a lot of people off.
What will be interesting will be the combination of 5G and Starlink - so you will be able to roll out 5G in remote areas cheaply, with Starlink doing the back haul. So, in theory, you could put up a mast in the middle of nowhere, with some solar cells and batteries. Instant GB/s internet.
“ No one would have believed in the early years of the twenty-first century that this government was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than that of cabinet ministers and yet as mortal as their own; that as Tories busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency Tories went to and fro across Westminster about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over politics. It is possible that the infusoria under the microscope do the same. No one gave a thought to the older world of Labour as sources of political danger, or thought of them only to dismiss the idea of original thought within it as impossible or improbable. It is curious to recall some of the mental habits of those departed days....
Yet across the gulf of politics, minds that are to Tory minds as theirs are to those of the MRLP, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this government front bench with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against it. And early in the twenty-first century came the great disillusionment....”
Johnson certainly now has the chance to deliver on the implied benefits of Brexit but all polling suggests that more voters still remain convinced it was a mistake than think it was the correct decision and I don't see that reversing for a very long time and I expect the gap to widen not narrow as we deal with the reality
I'm biased, but I think the harder the Brexit, the quicker we rejoin.
And in the middle of nowhere where are you going to find customers ?
The only thing that I see is a mature technology that offers diminishing returns with every upgrade.
I’ll get my dressing gown.
Good night.
Or we could just borrow the money, that doesn't seem to be a problem at the moment
(Sorry, I'm feeling emotional, I've just picked up my French passport. Now all I need to do is *learn* French and I'll be set for life)
Most of us would struggle to find practical usage - but most of us aren’t developing the next generation of tech.
LDs 11
The biggest obstacle to rejoin will be that we will have to go through all this again.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/china
Wow. They've changed.
I'm sorry... what???
So, there will be something for everyone there so all sides can continue to claim to have been right all along.
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1222282766617845761?s=20