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My main advice is to watch rugby instead.
Good pint Youngs, and most Youngs pubs do Beamish as I recall from my London student days.
You should come along - I don't think you have been before? (Though if you have, please don't be offended - I am stupidly forgetful).
I haven't been before, so no offence taken
Do people go by their names on here or first name terms?
Obv my name is Sam!
Today while driving home I was surprised to see a HUGE billboard for UKIP. It was one of the ones with a hand pointing at the viewer.
Obviously, as a PBer I was aware of the campaign but I live in a small industrial town in the North-East where you often see bus adverts or phone box posters stay the same for ages.
The particular billboard seems to usually have movie posters on. So they really must be splashing out.
Depends on who leases the hoarding? they might have gotten a discount?
I think we've contemplated name tags in the past but never done it.
Sadly it was acquired by Heineken some years ago (who also own Murphy's) and since 2009 it has not been distributed outside Ireland.
Of course Youngs beers are no longer brewed in fun-loving Wandsworth but rather in Bedford.
Bournemouth - 2/1
Brighton - 5/2
Between Brian Coleman and Anne Widdecombe - shudder
Went downhill when they retired the horses.
Titters ....
Which is annoying, as I've just bought some new footwear.
London St Pancras can be so confusing when you've been drinking in Searcys
Ah that might explain why Brian destroyed his laptop
Disgraced councillor Brian Coleman has been reported to the information watchdog after failing to explain why he destroyed a laptop given to him by Barnet Council.
http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/disgraced_councillor_brian_coleman_reported_to_watchdog_after_destroying_laptop_1_3537798
Yeah not a prob, thanks
The only party to have sent me any campaign literature is the Tories, from whom I've received one "In Touch" leaflet, and also a fake HS2 referendum piece. It seems the Conservative party is learning from the LibDems. I expect a dodgy bar chart soonest.
He's not going to stand in Hallam is he?
Railways electrified under Maggie (1979 - 1990):
ECML, London to Edinburgh.
London Tilbury and Southend
London to Bedford
Cambridge to King's Lynn (actually completed in 1992)
Railways electrified under Labour (1997 to 2010)
9 miles (some sources say 45 - probably a difference between track and route miles).
Railway electrifications started under this government, and going ahead:
London to Bristol and Cardiff
Bedford to Nottingham, Derby and Sheffield
Oxford to Nuneaton
Liverpool, Preston, Blackpool and Manchester.
Southampton to Reading.
Cambridge to King's Lynn
Yet the Conservatives are anti-rail ...
(see latter half of video on article below)
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/video-farage-launches-ukip-campaign-in-sheffield-1-6574064
(That would be a good bet: how long before one of the Met's special groups swoop on me?)
Its to beat them on the ground. Something that will be evident when local election results are counted.
pic.twitter.com/u2qOEGLilU
Big finger pointing poster, Immigrants set up 1 in 7 British companies, and whose jobs are they creating?
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by three points: CON 34%, LAB 37%, LD 10%, UKIP 12%
Not sure what version I'll buy.
Oh, and UK release is confirmed as 10/10/2014.
Edited extra bit: anyway, off for the night.
[The key to me is liberty - freedom. Personal freedom (no nanny state or surveillance), freedom to personally develop and prosper ( not kept back by being born into a poor family) freedom from oppression (law and order) and free trade.
Neo-liberalism takes this to extremes and applies it inappropriately - gun ownership, tea party politics, privatising public services (including natural monopolies such as water, roads and railways, electricity). The Orange Bookers are not tea party fanatics but they are ideologically driven to marketise public services (as was Blair).
I voted LibDem in 2010 because I was against the interfering nannyism of Labour (plus illegal wars and Blairism), and against the basic greed and lack of empathy of Tories. The libDems offered the best of personal freedom combined with social justice (a trade-off I know).
EdM seems to have turned his back on Blairism (that's appealing) and is personally brave (Murdoch, Syria, Uniosn etc). He has my vote for the time being.]
Now that I've read this properly - you do seem to make a compelling case. I do think you're mixing up neo-liberalism with Americanism a bit though. Having flicked through the infamous orange book I found their case to be sincere if a little over my head. I think that politics students and PBers should be reminded though that the orange bookers did win - They are now running the Westminster LDs
Well you going to see plenty of people in this country voting for them,what does that make them in your book ?
The Lib Dems do not seem to understand liberalism and the Tories are only too willing to lurch into authoritarianism when it suits them. But they at least get some small credit for abolishing ID cards.
All these are such fundamental issues for me that they outweigh arguments about tax etc. Money can be earnt. Freedoms - hard fought for over many many years - can quickly and easily be lost which is why I will not vote for a party which was so casually dismissive and contemptuous of the very idea of civil liberty let alone their practical and legislative expressions when they were in power.
Julia Ioffe @juliaioffe
#Russia says all foreign Internet companies have to turn over data on their users or be banned in the country. What say you, Edward Snowden?
Oh wait a minute......
Chris Bryant Sparks Immigration Row With 'British Workers In British Hotels' Comment
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04/23/chris-bryant-sparks-immigration-row_n_3137715.html
Nick Sutton ✔ @suttonnick
Wednesday's Daily Mail front page - "Don't ask migrants how long they're staying" #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers pic.twitter.com/FSTQqOr7Lv
Sad I won't be meeting you in person Mr Palmer, until next time I guess.
Still, at least the magic will remain a short while longer.
off topic-ish and a quick speed read of Barnesian's reasons for only being able to vote Lab not Cons while being a (non SDP) LD surely contained plenty of policies enacted between 1997 and 2010 when I believe the Cons were sadly far from power.
http://www.mayfieldfestival.co.uk/
Labour and the Liberal Democrats will not stand up for Britain in Europe, and they refuse to give the British people a say in an in-out referendum. UKIP are neither credible nor competent and they can't deliver for Britain.
Only the Conservatives can deliver real change in Europe. We will renegotiate Britain's membership then hold an in-out referendum for the British people to decide our future in Europe.
http://www.conservatives.com/Landing_Pages/European_Election.aspx
Of course Eurosceptic voters may not be rational, but that's up to them. If they want to cement ever-closer union, they can help put Ed Miliband into No 10 by voting UKIP.
That's all you need to know. The rest is froth.
It might not work, of course; that will depend on how the negotiations with our EU friends go. Either way, the British people will be able to decide.
Of course, for anyone entirely happy with the status quo, voting UKIP is a safe option.
drumroll-
Today programme: And now on the Today programme, UKIP
Me and Gf: Okay!
"Hi all
A former member has been circulating an anonymous letter trying to frighten
UKIP members and candidates into resigning with some blood-curdling tales
about impending legal actions and the threat of losing their houses.
It is a complete fantasy, but scares members by saying that, as political
parties are an 'unincorporated association', if the party is sued everyone
is liable and could lose large sums.
In fact, UKIP is a company limited by guarantee, so if we were bankrupted,
13 people would lose £1 each.
The rest of the letter is equally facile, but this is a cruel, cowardly hoax
which might worry some members. Please reassure your members that there is
not an iota of truth in it."
If this came to pass, it would probably slightly reduce the number of 2010 LDs defecting to Labour and therefore give the Tories a small lead in the polls.
That's good from your point of view. If you are right, the referendum will take place in conditions making it easier for you to claim no progress is possible.
You can't have it both ways: do you want an In/Out referendum or not? Do you want the British people to have the choice, or do you want - like Labour and the LibDems - to deny them the choice?
twitter.com/suttonnick/status/458717887222411264/photo/1
Lab 30, UKIP 27, Tories 22, LD 10, Greens 6
Changes since last time Lab nc, UKIP minus 1, Con minus 1, LD plus 1, Green plus 1
You don't want it, do you? Despite all the bluster, the last thing you, and UKIP generally, want is to give the British people a choice.
Actually, I was wrong to accuse UKIP of irrationality. It's entirely rational of them to want to avoid a referendum, which they know they'd lose. I just wish they could find some way of comforting themselves with myths which didn't involve the disaster of a Miliband government and reversing all the progress which has been made. Can't they go and do something harmless like singing patriotic songs and dressing up?
twitter.com/suttonnick/status/458722603616989184/photo/1
Just look at the inane desperation of a sensible people such as Richard Navabi.
Pitiful laughable stuff
I feel sorry for them. So comically out of touch.