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  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,296
    edited November 2019
    First like Boris Jezza Boris Er...?
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    People are frustrated because the formats are useless. It’s just theatricals, despite the presenter being one of the better ones.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,594
    I think it amazing that 'interesting' is as high as it is. Heck, 2 of the top 4 descriptions are positive.

    It needed to be 2 hours long, and we don't need the person who submitted the question there, or even need to know who it was.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,296
    How soon will we know how few voters actually watched the debate?
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    It's all a pile of wank.

    There will now be radio phone-ins about the topic, in which clueless members of the public will talk a load of wank about the pile of wank.

    Things will then move on in the morning with more Prince Andrew stories, and the pile of wank will be quickly forgotten.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    Why did Corbyn pronounce Ep-styne, “Ep-shteen”?
    Was it to emphasise his Semitic provenance?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,733
    Why is ‘risible’ not one of the words to describe ‘how you feel about the debate’ ?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,296
    Nigelb said:

    Why is ‘risible’ not one of the words to describe ‘how you feel about the debate’ ?

    Too few understand what it means?
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Benpointer said:

    How soon will we know how few voters actually watched the debate?

    When the exit poll comes out
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,689
    Benpointer said:

    First like Boris Jezza Boris Er...?

    Julie Etchingham?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,733
    Benpointer said:

    Nigelb said:

    Why is ‘risible’ not one of the words to describe ‘how you feel about the debate’ ?

    Too few understand what it means?
    I bet it would have beaten ‘detailed’.
  • houndtanghoundtang Posts: 450
    I find that although I'm very interested in the result of this election, I have zero interest in the campaign or any of these tedious shenanigans.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,674
    Black_Rook said:

    It's all a pile of wank.

    There will now be radio phone-ins about the topic, in which clueless members of the public will talk a load of wank about the pile of wank.

    Things will then move on in the morning with more Prince Andrew stories, and the pile of wank will be quickly forgotten.

    You mean it was literally a mass-debate?
  • camelcamel Posts: 815
    Typo in the header is frutrating (sic) me more than the debate.

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,548
    Guardian sums it up:

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1196917866613952513
  • BluerBlueBluerBlue Posts: 521
    Nigelb said:

    Why is ‘risible’ not one of the words to describe ‘how you feel about the debate’ ?

    We're not playing Pointless?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,594
    houndtang said:

    I find that although I'm very interested in the result of this election, I have zero interest in the campaign or any of these tedious shenanigans.

    I assume such things must have an effect or why do it, but most grandiose events or partisan tactics just put me off, so I guess the more subtle stuff must be what affects me.
    Black_Rook said:

    It's all a pile of wank.

    Boris should have walked it then.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    edited November 2019
    kle4 said:

    I think it amazing that 'interesting' is as high as it is. Heck, 2 of the top 4 descriptions are positive.

    It needed to be 2 hours long, and we don't need the person who submitted the question there, or even need to know who it was.

    Quite right. I don’t give a fuck about Benny from Bolton or whoever.

    I want a prepared compere to ask Boris why NHS figures are in freefall; why we should trust him given he’s already broken promises on Brexit, tax cuts, and an Irish regulatory border already; and why he is willing to up borrowing after years of the Tories preaching fiscal conservatism.

    Ditto for Corbyn.

    I want a *debate*.
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Tomorrow night there's the latest Democrat nominee debate which in almost every aspect is vastly superior tonight's hour shouty rubbish.

    The American do these things so much better
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    Black_Rook said:

    It's all a pile of wank.

    There will now be radio phone-ins about the topic, in which clueless members of the public will talk a load of wank about the pile of wank.

    Things will then move on in the morning with more Prince Andrew stories, and the pile of wank will be quickly forgotten.

    Prince Andrew had a ......
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,733
    Gardenwalker said:

    Why did Corbyn pronounce Ep-styne, “Ep-shteen”?
    Was it to emphasise his Semitic provenance?

    Cos he’s thick ?
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,100
    Montgomery Brewster?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,548
    My overall impression was both contenders were focussed on shoring up their likely voters.

    Corbyn: NHS, austerity, big pharma, foodbanks.

    Johnson: Get Brexit done, SNP could be in a coalition of chaos

    What was there for the undecided?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,733
    BluerBlue said:

    Nigelb said:

    Why is ‘risible’ not one of the words to describe ‘how you feel about the debate’ ?

    We're not playing Pointless?
    On the contrary...

  • Time_to_LeaveTime_to_Leave Posts: 2,547
    Benpointer said:

    How soon will we know how few voters actually watched the debate?

    Viewing figures come out at about 9am the following morning I think. (I used to have to know this for work, honest, I’m not that sad).
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    edited November 2019
    Gardenwalker said:

    Why did Corbyn pronounce Ep-styne, “Ep-shteen”?
    Was it to emphasise his Semitic provenance?

    Barrel scraping Mr Walker

    Has anyone noticed how auto correct treats the word Walker (see it did it again)
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    rottenborough said:

    My overall impression was both contenders were focussed on shoring up their likely voters.

    Corbyn: NHS, austerity, big pharma, foodbanks.

    Johnson: Get Brexit done, SNP could be in a coalition of chaos

    What was there for the undecided?

    I preferred the presenter. Can we vote for her?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,594
    It's a shame they didn't throw in a few less common words to ask people about just for laughs. I'd be interested to know how many people who found the debate effervescent, for instance.
  • Time_to_LeaveTime_to_Leave Posts: 2,547
    bigjohnowls said:

    Black_Rook said:

    It's all a pile of wank.

    There will now be radio phone-ins about the topic, in which clueless members of the public will talk a load of wank about the pile of wank.

    Things will then move on in the morning with more Prince Andrew stories, and the pile of wank will be quickly forgotten.

    Prince Andrew had a ......
    [MODERATED]
  • BluerBlueBluerBlue Posts: 521
    MikeSmithson said:

    Tomorrow night there's the latest Democrat nominee debate which in almost every aspect is vastly superior tonight's hour shouty rubbish.

    The American do these things so much better

    Ironically because the Americans are so much more deferential to their politicians and because the Presidency is a constitutionally-defined role, whereas here the PM is just some guy (or gal) we get to fill the role by convention and who can be ejected at any time without ceremony...
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    edited November 2019
    bigjohnowls said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Why did Corbyn pronounce Ep-styne, “Ep-shteen”?
    Was it to emphasise his Semitic provenance?

    Barrel scraping Mr Walker

    Has anyone noticed how auto correct treats the word Walker (see it did it again)
    Only on your phone, mate.
    I guess it knows you are fond of a...walk.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    Gardenwalker said:

    rottenborough said:

    My overall impression was both contenders were focussed on shoring up their likely voters.

    Corbyn: NHS, austerity, big pharma, foodbanks.

    Johnson: Get Brexit done, SNP could be in a coalition of chaos

    What was there for the undecided?

    I preferred the presenter. Can we vote for her?
    She was excellent imo
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,548
    camel said:

    Typo in the header is frutrating (sic) me more than the debate.

    Frutrating: noun. Process of filtering liquified fruit.

    Source: FactCheckUK
  • Flashy4Flashy4 Posts: 26
    Gardenwalker said:

    People are frustrated because the formats are useless. It’s just theatricals, despite the presenter being one of the better ones.

    The presenter was rubbish - no chemistry or authority.

  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Question: at the end of the election campaign, what is the big message that most of the public will have noticed?

    A. We need to get Brexit done
    B. That free broadband sounds like a good idea
    C. #umpteendaystosavethenhs
    D. Two more referendums in 2020 - please, God, no!
    E. Nothing. Or...
    F. Thicky-thick-thick Prince Andrew is a very naughty boy (allegedly)
  • BluerBlueBluerBlue Posts: 521
    Black_Rook said:

    Question: at the end of the election campaign, what is the big message that most of the public will have noticed?

    A. We need to get Brexit done
    B. That free broadband sounds like a good idea
    C. #umpteendaystosavethenhs
    D. Two more referendums in 2020 - please, God, no!
    E. Nothing. Or...
    F. Thicky-thick-thick Prince Andrew is a very naughty boy (allegedly)

    G. Prince Andrew is more trusted to run the country than Jeremy Corbyn :smile:
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,548
    Black_Rook said:

    Question: at the end of the election campaign, what is the big message that most of the public will have noticed?

    A. We need to get Brexit done
    B. That free broadband sounds like a good idea
    C. #umpteendaystosavethenhs
    D. Two more referendums in 2020 - please, God, no!
    E. Nothing. Or...
    F. Thicky-thick-thick Prince Andrew is a very naughty boy (allegedly)

    Johnson did mention the two referendums several times.
  • Time_to_LeaveTime_to_Leave Posts: 2,547
    BluerBlue said:

    Black_Rook said:

    Question: at the end of the election campaign, what is the big message that most of the public will have noticed?

    A. We need to get Brexit done
    B. That free broadband sounds like a good idea
    C. #umpteendaystosavethenhs
    D. Two more referendums in 2020 - please, God, no!
    E. Nothing. Or...
    F. Thicky-thick-thick Prince Andrew is a very naughty boy (allegedly)

    G. Prince Andrew is more trusted to run the country than Jeremy Corbyn :smile:
    He’d like to, but he’s not available. He’s at a Pizza Express in Woking.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    Boris’s biggest fail was the monarchy thing.
    It reminded us that he couldn’t give a fuck about anyone but himself.

    Corbyn’s was on the 4-day week. He made it sound like a compulsory piece of socialism-most-batty.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,255
    MikeSmithson said:

    Tomorrow night there's the latest Democrat nominee debate which in almost every aspect is vastly superior tonight's hour shouty rubbish.

    The American do these things so much better

    In the US they have a point. They are voting for an individual. Over here they are pointless as almost no one is actually voting for the people in the debate.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,548
    https://twitter.com/frankieboyle/status/1196884475176792065
  • camelcamel Posts: 815
    rottenborough said:

    camel said:

    Typo in the header is frutrating (sic) me more than the debate.

    Frutrating: noun. Process of filtering liquified fruit.

    Source: FactCheckUK
    Now my header pedantry has been sated, I am frustrated that answers were limited to about 20 seconds before the chair started interrupting.

    Then we wonder why politics is all soundbites
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    Gardenwalker said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Why did Corbyn pronounce Ep-styne, “Ep-shteen”?
    Was it to emphasise his Semitic provenance?

    Barrel scraping Mr Walker

    Has anyone noticed how auto correct treats the word Walker (see it did it again)
    Only on your phone, mate.
    I guess it knows you are fond of a...walk.
    My phone usually edits out the word Tory but if I type Swinson amazingly it inserts Tory before Swinson. That's android for you maybe I should get an I phone I could put it in my skills wallet.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,674
    Flashy4 said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    People are frustrated because the formats are useless. It’s just theatricals, despite the presenter being one of the better ones.

    The presenter was rubbish - no chemistry or authority.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7155615/Emily-Maitlis-lost-control-BBC-viewers-slam-Tory-leadership-debate.html
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    BluerBlue said:

    Black_Rook said:

    Question: at the end of the election campaign, what is the big message that most of the public will have noticed?

    A. We need to get Brexit done
    B. That free broadband sounds like a good idea
    C. #umpteendaystosavethenhs
    D. Two more referendums in 2020 - please, God, no!
    E. Nothing. Or...
    F. Thicky-thick-thick Prince Andrew is a very naughty boy (allegedly)

    G. Prince Andrew is more trusted to run the local Pizza Hut than Jeremy Corbyn :smile:
    Of course he is all the staff are young girls in uniform
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    edited November 2019
    Think of Attlee’s Cabinet — now look on this:

    https://twitter.com/richardburgon/status/1196836519979429890?s=21
  • NemtynakhtNemtynakht Posts: 2,329
    So earlier today the opinion was that Boris was wrong to do the debate as it put him in an area that was more comfortable for Corbyn, both as a challenger and as part of his style as a politician. So effectively with a draw their will be relief from Team Boris and frustration at a missed opportunity from Team Corbyn.

    If Corbyn cannot move the dial with the manifesto launch which I guess in effect is a day long PPB then things won’t be looking good for Labour.
  • Flashy4Flashy4 Posts: 26
    Bet search - any markets on when Nicola Sturgeon will no longer be FM ??
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,062
    edited November 2019
    Boris will be relieved he edged it on first post debate polls but no significant movement either way I think
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Just desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    Utterly wank move.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,594
    Alistair said:

    Fucking desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    That's the kind of shit that makes you think the Tories are doing worse than the polls say.

    It's pretty bad. I doubt it says something about the polls, more just they don't trust the polling after last time (even at the end most seemed to indicate they would win) so are not being complacent.
  • beentheredonethatbeentheredonethat Posts: 838
    rottenborough said:

    https://twitter.com/frankieboyle/status/1196884475176792065

    I suspect it is just me but does anybody else see frankie Boyle as an unfunny, arrogant, tosspot?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    Nemtynakht said:

    So earlier today the opinion was that Boris was wrong to do the debate as it put him in an area that was more comfortable for Corbyn, both as a challenger and as part of his style as a politician. So effectively with a draw their will be relief from Team Boris and frustration at a missed opportunity from Team Corbyn.

    If Corbyn cannot move the dial with the manifesto launch which I guess in effect is a day long PPB then things won’t be looking good for Labour.

    I would agree.

    Need Lab to close to within 6 by end of next week as a minimum.

    Looks a long way off TBF.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,548
    This sounds like the post-2017 Corbynite view that basically their man had won the election:

    https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1196900264785133568
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,263
    Gardenwalker said:

    Why did Corbyn pronounce Ep-styne, “Ep-shteen”?
    Was it to emphasise his Semitic provenance?

    Isn't the second pronunciation correct?
    Gardenwalker said:

    Why did Corbyn pronounce Ep-styne, “Ep-shteen”?
    Was it to emphasise his Semitic provenance?

    I believe the second is the pronunciation used by Jeffrey Epstein himself, for example in this video clip by one of his victims.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jeffrey-epstein-victim-prince-andrew-fbi-jane-doe-15-zorro-ranch-island-a9208371.html
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,080
    Alistair said:

    Just desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    Utterly wank move.

    Typical dirty filthy Tories. To coin a phrase the Tories are scum! SCUM!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,548
    Alistair said:

    Just desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    Utterly wank move.

    CCHQ left a bunch of student volunteers in charge of their twitter feed tonight?
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503
    edited November 2019
    murali_s said:

    Alistair said:

    Just desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    Utterly wank move.

    Typical dirty filthy Tories. To coin a phrase the Tories are scum! SCUM!
    😂 straight from the Momentum playbook. Nice one. 😂
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    ozymandias said:

    murali_s said:

    Alistair said:

    Just desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    Utterly wank move.

    Typical dirty filthy Tories. To coin a phrase the Tories are scum! SCUM!
    😂 straight from the Momentum playbook. Nice one. 😂
    Are Momentum masquerading as Fact Check.

    Disgusting
  • camelcamel Posts: 815
    Sian Berry is far more eloquent and likable than Jo Swinson. Lovely Jo wins on policies.
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503
    bigjohnowls said:

    ozymandias said:

    murali_s said:

    Alistair said:

    Just desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    Utterly wank move.

    Typical dirty filthy Tories. To coin a phrase the Tories are scum! SCUM!
    😂 straight from the Momentum playbook. Nice one. 😂
    Are Momentum masquerading as Fact Check.

    Disgusting
    They just didn’t think of it first. Don’t pretend they wouldn’t do something like this.

    #outplayed.
  • DruttDrutt Posts: 1,124
    kle4 said:

    Alistair said:

    Fucking desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    That's the kind of shit that makes you think the Tories are doing worse than the polls say.

    It's pretty bad. I doubt it says something about the polls, more just they don't trust the polling after last time (even at the end most seemed to indicate they would win) so are not being complacent.
    I think it's metashitposting. Change twitter handle, change it back, twitter triggered, twitter screeches, soak up the impressions.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    beentheredonethat said:

    rottenborough said:

    https://twitter.com/frankieboyle/status/1196884475176792065

    I suspect it is just me but does anybody else see frankie Boyle as an unfunny, arrogant, tosspot?
    No he has a point.

    First 10 comments on here were about wonky glasses
  • beentheredonethatbeentheredonethat Posts: 838
    kle4 said:

    Alistair said:

    Fucking desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    That's the kind of shit that makes you think the Tories are doing worse than the polls say.

    It's pretty bad. I doubt it says something about the polls, more just they don't trust the polling after last time (even at the end most seemed to indicate they would win) so are not being complacent.
    Not defending the Tory move (some of the chaps probably thought it would be a wizard wheeze or whatever etonians say) but the fact the person complaining calls themselves factcheck Paton seems a trifle hypocritical.


  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 127,062
    Farage pushing the wealthiest taking out private health insurance on BBC1 QT special
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,263
    rottenborough said:

    https://twitter.com/frankieboyle/status/1196884475176792065

    Jezza has a prism in his glasses to correct double vision, and this makes his glasses asymmetric. It is in the public domain.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jeremy-corbyn-admits-he-is-being-treated-for-eye-condition-th5dhlpcd
  • Flashy4Flashy4 Posts: 26
    Drutt said:

    kle4 said:

    Alistair said:

    Fucking desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    That's the kind of shit that makes you think the Tories are doing worse than the polls say.

    It's pretty bad. I doubt it says something about the polls, more just they don't trust the polling after last time (even at the end most seemed to indicate they would win) so are not being complacent.
    I think it's metashitposting. Change twitter handle, change it back, twitter triggered, twitter screeches, soak up the impressions.
    It’s Twitter for goodness sake - a joke platform full of spam .
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,359
    Foxy said:

    rottenborough said:

    https://twitter.com/frankieboyle/status/1196884475176792065

    Jezza has a prism in his glasses to correct double vision, and this makes his glasses asymmetric. It is in the public domain.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jeremy-corbyn-admits-he-is-being-treated-for-eye-condition-th5dhlpcd
    I was trying to find that story early. I knew the stuff Guido was spreading was nonsense.
  • BantermanBanterman Posts: 287
    beentheredonethat said:

    kle4 said:

    Alistair said:

    Fucking desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    That's the kind of shit that makes you think the Tories are doing worse than the polls say.

    It's pretty bad. I doubt it says something about the polls, more just they don't trust the polling after last time (even at the end most seemed to indicate they would win) so are not being complacent.
    Not defending the Tory move (some of the chaps probably thought it would be a wizard wheeze or whatever etonians say) but the fact the person complaining calls themselves factcheck Paton seems a trifle hypocritical.


    Hard to understand unless they think a bit of chaos at the moment makes sense.

    Or was it a dead cat option if Corbyn did well tonight?
  • beentheredonethatbeentheredonethat Posts: 838
    bigjohnowls said:

    beentheredonethat said:

    rottenborough said:

    https://twitter.com/frankieboyle/status/1196884475176792065

    I suspect it is just me but does anybody else see frankie Boyle as an unfunny, arrogant, tosspot?
    No he has a point.

    First 10 comments on here were about wonky glasses
    Good grief! Were they? I suppose those impressions matter as mr. Johnson is constantly commented on regarding his hair but I suppose that may have something to do with the standard of debate.
    All the same, a bit shit though if that is all people were focused on.

  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    Boris wins on catchphrases

    Get Brexit done 3796 times

    Nicola big loser didnt say fandabadozee once
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    beentheredonethat said:

    kle4 said:

    Alistair said:

    Fucking desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    That's the kind of shit that makes you think the Tories are doing worse than the polls say.

    It's pretty bad. I doubt it says something about the polls, more just they don't trust the polling after last time (even at the end most seemed to indicate they would win) so are not being complacent.
    Not defending the Tory move (some of the chaps probably thought it would be a wizard wheeze or whatever etonians say) but the fact the person complaining calls themselves factcheck Paton seems a trifle hypocritical.


    The fact that they kept CCHQ clear too and said "fact checking from CCHQ" made it a bit tongue in cheek.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,983
    rottenborough said:

    This sounds like the post-2017 Corbynite view that basically their man had won the election:

    https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1196900264785133568

    Jones is probably right. Boris's people would have been most disappointed with the outcome. Having portrayed Jezza as a dangerously insane Marxist, Boris should have ended the contest tonight with a string of killer blows. That he didn't suggests that either Jezza isn't that crap or Boris is as crap as Jezza.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    Philip_Thompson said:

    beentheredonethat said:

    kle4 said:

    Alistair said:

    Fucking desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    That's the kind of shit that makes you think the Tories are doing worse than the polls say.

    It's pretty bad. I doubt it says something about the polls, more just they don't trust the polling after last time (even at the end most seemed to indicate they would win) so are not being complacent.
    Not defending the Tory move (some of the chaps probably thought it would be a wizard wheeze or whatever etonians say) but the fact the person complaining calls themselves factcheck Paton seems a trifle hypocritical.


    The fact that they kept CCHQ clear too and said "fact checking from CCHQ" made it a bit tongue in cheek.
    Aka vaguely legal.
  • DruttDrutt Posts: 1,124
    Both Leave-voting countries have qualified for the Euros in 2020. Both remain-voting countries are -ahem- out of Europe.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,674
    bigjohnowls said:

    beentheredonethat said:

    rottenborough said:

    https://twitter.com/frankieboyle/status/1196884475176792065

    I suspect it is just me but does anybody else see frankie Boyle as an unfunny, arrogant, tosspot?
    No he has a point.

    First 10 comments on here were about wonky glasses
    What's Jezza's favourite Christmas carol?

    Little Wonky!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,359
    Gardenwalker said:

    Philip_Thompson said:

    beentheredonethat said:

    kle4 said:

    Alistair said:

    Fucking desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    That's the kind of shit that makes you think the Tories are doing worse than the polls say.

    It's pretty bad. I doubt it says something about the polls, more just they don't trust the polling after last time (even at the end most seemed to indicate they would win) so are not being complacent.
    Not defending the Tory move (some of the chaps probably thought it would be a wizard wheeze or whatever etonians say) but the fact the person complaining calls themselves factcheck Paton seems a trifle hypocritical.


    The fact that they kept CCHQ clear too and said "fact checking from CCHQ" made it a bit tongue in cheek.
    Aka vaguely legal.
    Vaguely legal? Is it illegal to impersonate a fact checker? Anyway, the twitter handle always said CCHQPress, and CCHQ was on every graphic.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,100
    Impersonation is a breach of Twitters rules that can lead to suspension.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    beentheredonethat said:

    kle4 said:

    Alistair said:

    Fucking desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    That's the kind of shit that makes you think the Tories are doing worse than the polls say.

    It's pretty bad. I doubt it says something about the polls, more just they don't trust the polling after last time (even at the end most seemed to indicate they would win) so are not being complacent.
    Not defending the Tory move (some of the chaps probably thought it would be a wizard wheeze or whatever etonians say) but the fact the person complaining calls themselves factcheck Paton seems a trifle hypocritical.


    Think he changed his name just now. Bunch of people have changed their avatar to the tick the Conservatives used as well.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    beentheredonethat said:

    rottenborough said:

    https://twitter.com/frankieboyle/status/1196884475176792065

    I suspect it is just me but does anybody else see frankie Boyle as an unfunny, arrogant, tosspot?
    No he has a point.

    First 10 comments on here were about wonky glasses
    What's Jezza's favourite Christmas carol?

    Little Wonky!
    Swinsons is Silent Night based on her being restrained in the Green room

    Boris is Scrooge!

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,594
    Philip_Thompson said:

    beentheredonethat said:

    kle4 said:

    Alistair said:

    Fucking desperate

    https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1196898095688228869?s=19

    That's the kind of shit that makes you think the Tories are doing worse than the polls say.

    It's pretty bad. I doubt it says something about the polls, more just they don't trust the polling after last time (even at the end most seemed to indicate they would win) so are not being complacent.
    Not defending the Tory move (some of the chaps probably thought it would be a wizard wheeze or whatever etonians say) but the fact the person complaining calls themselves factcheck Paton seems a trifle hypocritical.


    The fact that they kept CCHQ clear too and said "fact checking from CCHQ" made it a bit tongue in cheek.
    But shitty
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    Stark_Dawning said:

    rottenborough said:

    This sounds like the post-2017 Corbynite view that basically their man had won the election:

    https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1196900264785133568

    Jones is probably right. Boris's people would have been most disappointed with the outcome. Having portrayed Jezza as a dangerously insane Marxist, Boris should have ended the contest tonight with a string of killer blows. That he didn't suggests that either Jezza isn't that crap or Boris is as crap as Jezza.
    Boris:

    1) participated in the debate so he couldn't be accused of being frit or shady like May in 2017
    2) and, doing the debate, at worst drew it, thus keeping his opponents at arm's length.

    Job done for the Tories.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,359
    Jonathan said:

    Impersonation is a breach of Twitters rules that can lead to suspension.

    Unless there is a FactCheck UK that they impersonated, I don't think they were in breach of any rules.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,689
    rottenborough said:

    Black_Rook said:

    Question: at the end of the election campaign, what is the big message that most of the public will have noticed?

    A. We need to get Brexit done
    B. That free broadband sounds like a good idea
    C. #umpteendaystosavethenhs
    D. Two more referendums in 2020 - please, God, no!
    E. Nothing. Or...
    F. Thicky-thick-thick Prince Andrew is a very naughty boy (allegedly)

    Johnson did mention the two referendums several times.
    Man responsible for an unnecessary trip to the polling station complaining about unnecessary trips to the polling station.
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    Does feel like it wasn’t the gamechanger Corbyn needed. Corbynistas whining about a twitter account? How detached from reality are these people? 90% of the public are not on twitter and don’t care, it’s just weird. I presume these are the same folk who give their life savings to Nigerian princes!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,548
    https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1196900773411663873
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,263
    RobD said:

    Jonathan said:

    Impersonation is a breach of Twitters rules that can lead to suspension.

    Unless there is a FactCheck UK that they impersonated, I don't think they were in breach of any rules.
    Pretty scuzzy trick though. I hope it backfires on the mendacious chimps who did it.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,359
    rottenborough said:

    https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1196900773411663873

    Who wasn't saying it was a draw?
  • ozymandiasozymandias Posts: 1,503
    RobD said:

    rottenborough said:

    https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1196900773411663873

    Who wasn't saying it was a draw?
    Wasn’t it supposed to be #win4corbyn ??
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    rottenborough said:

    https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1196900773411663873

    Yeah but this is the real quiz. Could Boris Johnson throw a kettle over a pub? asks Owen Jones.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    RobD said:

    Jonathan said:

    Impersonation is a breach of Twitters rules that can lead to suspension.

    Unless there is a FactCheck UK that they impersonated, I don't think they were in breach of any rules.
    There is @FactCheck and @FactCheckNI

    Both British.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    Jonathan said:

    Impersonation is a breach of Twitters rules that can lead to suspension.

    Unless there is a FactCheck UK that they impersonated, I don't think they were in breach of any rules.
    Pretty scuzzy trick though. I hope it backfires on the mendacious chimps who did it.
    Twitter looking into the account according to BBC
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,359
    Alistair said:

    RobD said:

    Jonathan said:

    Impersonation is a breach of Twitters rules that can lead to suspension.

    Unless there is a FactCheck UK that they impersonated, I don't think they were in breach of any rules.
    There is @FactCheck and @FactCheckNI

    Both British.
    But look nothing like CCHQ's attempt.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,644
    Foxy said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Why did Corbyn pronounce Ep-styne, “Ep-shteen”?
    Was it to emphasise his Semitic provenance?

    Isn't the second pronunciation correct?
    Gardenwalker said:

    Why did Corbyn pronounce Ep-styne, “Ep-shteen”?
    Was it to emphasise his Semitic provenance?

    I believe the second is the pronunciation used by Jeffrey Epstein himself, for example in this video clip by one of his victims.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jeffrey-epstein-victim-prince-andrew-fbi-jane-doe-15-zorro-ranch-island-a9208371.html
    Neither is wrong. The latter would be the Germanic pronunciation. It's etiquette to run with the owner's preference, if you know it. If you don't, you just guess.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,263
    RobD said:

    Jonathan said:

    Impersonation is a breach of Twitters rules that can lead to suspension.

    Unless there is a FactCheck UK that they impersonated, I don't think they were in breach of any rules.
    Maybe there is:

    https://twitter.com/Aiannucci/status/1196902445236072450?s=09
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,359
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    Jonathan said:

    Impersonation is a breach of Twitters rules that can lead to suspension.

    Unless there is a FactCheck UK that they impersonated, I don't think they were in breach of any rules.
    Maybe there is:

    https://twitter.com/Aiannucci/status/1196902445236072450?s=09
    I see what she did there.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    Alistair said:

    RobD said:

    Jonathan said:

    Impersonation is a breach of Twitters rules that can lead to suspension.

    Unless there is a FactCheck UK that they impersonated, I don't think they were in breach of any rules.
    There is @FactCheck and @FactCheckNI

    Both British.
    @factcheck and @fullfact condemning CCHQ impersonation.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,548
    RobD said:

    rottenborough said:

    https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1196900773411663873

    Who wasn't saying it was a draw?
    er, owen jones
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,359
    edited November 2019
    bigjohnowls said:

    Alistair said:

    RobD said:

    Jonathan said:

    Impersonation is a breach of Twitters rules that can lead to suspension.

    Unless there is a FactCheck UK that they impersonated, I don't think they were in breach of any rules.
    There is @FactCheck and @FactCheckNI

    Both British.
    @factcheck and @fullfact condemning CCHQ impersonation.
    I assume they are worried that a more impartial outfit was going to muscle them out of the fact checking business? :p
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 16,405
    BluerBlue said:

    Black_Rook said:

    Question: at the end of the election campaign, what is the big message that most of the public will have noticed?

    A. We need to get Brexit done
    B. That free broadband sounds like a good idea
    C. #umpteendaystosavethenhs
    D. Two more referendums in 2020 - please, God, no!
    E. Nothing. Or...
    F. Thicky-thick-thick Prince Andrew is a very naughty boy (allegedly)

    G. Prince Andrew is more trusted to run the country than Jeremy Corbyn :smile:
    At least Prince Andrew could do the debate without sweating under the lights like Nixon did.
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