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edited April 2014 in General

politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Worrying GE2015 and Euro numbers for the Tories in latest Survation/Mail on Sunday poll

On the Euro polling the big difference between Survation and ComRes was on the timing of the fieldwork. All of the Survation work took place after the Clegg/Farage BBC TV debate.

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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    So the debate did shift some votes then.

    Then again, Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    The same poll finds that 80% of the plebs voters want Maria Miller to resign
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    First for the second thread in a row.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    Survation ‏@Survation 1m

    82% of Conservative voters say Maria Miller should resign from cabinet, 66% say should resign as an MP Survation/MOS http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Maria-Miller-Tables-FINAL.pdf …

    Survation ‏@Survation 29s

    75% of public say David Cameron is wrong to stand by Maria Miller and let her keep her job - Survation/MOS http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Maria-Miller-Tables-FINAL.pdf …
  • NextNext Posts: 826
    Euros are protest votes.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,908
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The same poll finds that 80% of the plebs voters want Maria Miller to resign

    You mean she hasn't ?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,551
    4 points to UKIP, two to the Libbers.

    Mr Cameron will not be pleased.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    If Labour get 34% in the Euros I'll eat my hat.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    Alanbrooke said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The same poll finds that 80% of the plebs voters want Maria Miller to resign

    You mean she hasn't ?
    She should resign, this post has nothing to do with the fact I backed her at 14/1 as next out the cabinet.
  • NextNext Posts: 826
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Survation ‏@Survation 1m

    82% of Conservative voters say Maria Miller should resign from cabinet, 66% say should resign as an MP Survation/MOS http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Maria-Miller-Tables-FINAL.pdf …

    Survation ‏@Survation 29s

    75% of public say David Cameron is wrong to stand by Maria Miller and let her keep her job - Survation/MOS http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Maria-Miller-Tables-FINAL.pdf …

    I don't know the full details, but the overall impression just stinks.

    If Cameron is serious about detoxifying, he needs to make a stand.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,908
    rcs1000 said:

    4 points to UKIP, two to the Libbers.

    Mr Cameron will not be pleased.

    At this rate he'll have to start engaging with the electorate.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    edited April 2014
    Fair to conclude the budget bounce has somewhat faded?

    Which is a good thing, we don't want polls with the Tories ahead, 'cause that might cause Labour to dump Ed before the general election.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    I presume the main cause of the difference between the Comres and Survation Euro VI figures is the 10/10 Comres filter . In the sample as a whole Comres had 34 Labour and Con and UKIP 24 each . A filter not quite as harsh as 10/10 would have made the 2 polls pretty close .
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    What are the latest Ladbrokes odds on Maria Miller being next out of the cabinet?
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,908
    edited April 2014
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Fair to conclude the budget bounce has somewhat faded?

    Which is a good thing, we don't want polls with the Tories ahead, 'cause that might cause Labour to dump Ed before the general election.

    Too late. The party that went with Gordon Brown is hardly likely to dump Ed with 13 months to go.
  • Life_ina_market_townLife_ina_market_town Posts: 2,319
    Much as I love to see the authoritarians in the Conservative Party on the ropes, it is depressing that Clegg's pure charlatanry in the debate has in no way damaged the LibDems. Indeed (within the margin of error) they are in a stronger position than last week.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    AndyJS said:

    What are the latest Ladbrokes odds on Maria Miller being next out of the cabinet?

    They appear to have withdrawn their market.

    You can back her at 33/1 as next Tory Leader though.

    http://sportsbeta.ladbrokes.com/Next-Conservative-Party-Leader/Next-Permanent-Tory-Leader/Politics-N-1z141nmZ1z141n9Z1z141ne/
  • EasterrossEasterross Posts: 1,915
    Evening all and looking at these Survation polls, I suspect they are more likely to be the Maria Miller effect than the Nigel Farage effect.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Life_ina_market_town said:

    Much as I love to see the authoritarians in the Conservative Party on the ropes, it is depressing that Clegg's pure charlatanry in the debate has in no way damaged the LibDems. Indeed (within the margin of error) they are in a stronger position than last week.

    The LDs are down to rock bottom. Clegg's task was to significantly improve the situation.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    Perhaps Ladbrokes will open a market on whom this Minister is

    Maria Miller must go over expenses claims, says senior minister

    Minister says Culture Secretary Maria Miller's behaviour is 'incompatible with being in Cabinet and undermines PM'

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/10747333/Maria-Miller-must-go-over-expenses-claims-says-senior-minister.html
  • Life_ina_market_townLife_ina_market_town Posts: 2,319
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    They appear to have withdrawn their market.

    You can back her at 33/1 as next Tory Leader though.

    Never underestimate the capacity of the Tory party to make itself unelectable...
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    To put a positive spin on it, following the debate, the Lib Dems saw a 28.57% increase in their share of their vote for the Europe (2% / 7%)*100

    So Clegg's strategy so far has been brilliant and excellent.
  • isamisam Posts: 42,128
    Easterross said:

    Evening all and looking at these Survation polls, I suspect they are more likely to be the Maria Miller effect than the Nigel Farage effect.

    Yeah Righto
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    Life_ina_market_town said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    They appear to have withdrawn their market.

    You can back her at 33/1 as next Tory Leader though.

    Never underestimate the capacity of the Tory party to make itself unelectable...
    I know, we're the party that chose IDS.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    So the debate did shift some votes then.

    Then again, Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc.

    The January Survation EU Parliament poll was: Con 23%, Lab 32%, LD 9%, UKIP 26%.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    edited April 2014
    I think there's a panelbase poll in the Sunday Times that the IndyRef neck and neck.

    Edit: It's a panelbase poll for Wings over Scotland not the Sunday Times
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I think there's a panelbase poll in the Sunday Times that the IndyRef neck and neck.

    Edit: It's a panelbase poll for Wings over Scotland not the Sunday Times

    Triple LOL
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    edited April 2014
    Hmmmm

    The poll for the pro-independence political website Wings Over Scotland finds that when the 14% of voters who are undecided are excluded, 47% intend to vote yes and 53% no. It is the nationalists’ best rating so far this year.

    The lead was 24% last year
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    By my reckoning it's largely the same result as the last panelbase poll for NewsNet.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,446
    UKIP now polling higher than the LDs got in 1997 and 2001 in this poll
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,487
    These polls are almost as shocking as the current events in the PB Diplomacy Death Match!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    Annoying the Sunday Times piece doesn't give the yes/no vote shares before don't knows.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Hmmmm

    The poll for the pro-independence political website Wings Over Scotland finds that when the 14% of voters who are undecided are excluded, 47% intend to vote yes and 53% no. It is the nationalists’ best rating so far this year.

    The lead was 24% last year

    You are forgetting the Panelbase poll that had Yes in the lead last year ( August ) Neither is it the nationalist's best rating this year , The previous Panelbase poll had Yes 40 No 45 DK 15 eliminating DK's that is as near as damn it identical .
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 128,446
    TSE Nationalists have always been most fervent in their cause, not enough to win, and the undecided lean NO
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,827
    @TSE @AndyJS are you listening to Radio 2 (or watching Freeview 302)?
    Sounds of the 80s on the BBC!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    @TSE @AndyJS are you listening to Radio 2 (or watching Freeview 302)?
    Sounds of the 80s on the BBC!

    Nope!

    Sigh.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited April 2014
    UNS (Euro)

    Lab 30 (+17)
    UKIP 21 (+8)
    Con 13 (-13)
    LD 3 (-8)
    Grn 0 (-2) *
    SNP 2 (nc)
    Plaid 1 (nc)

    * uncertain as no Green figure given.

    Does anyone actually believe Labour are going to more than double their vote?
  • Chris_AChris_A Posts: 1,237
    On Betfair the boat race market the winning time book for 17-17:59, 18:18-59 and 19 minutes+ is currently 83%. With tomorrow's tide and weather forecast there is absolutely no way that it is going to be under 17 minutes so fill your boots. 17-17:59 is 5/6 favourite but that seems way too short to me and I've tempted just to plump for the 18-18:59 option at a very tasty 7/2.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,827
    Broken, sleazy Tory Troughers on the slide?

    :)
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,487
    Farage on TV = UKIP bounce = Tory woes.

    Euro Elections = Farage on TV. I'll let you do the rest.
  • isamisam Posts: 42,128
    Ukip on 20% in a GE poll and no one cares to mention it

    But don't include them in the debates!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    Poll Alert - YouGov poll on the Euros for the Sunday Times

    The latest YouGov/Sunday Times voting figures for the European parliament are certainly startling. Among all voters, UKIP has climbed from 23%, and third place, a week ago, to 28%, and a strong second place, this weekend.

    When we count only those who say they are certain to vote, UKIP gains another six point to 34%, seven points ahead of Labour and fully 14 points ahead of the Conservatives.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,827
    isam said:

    Ukip on 20% in a GE poll and no one cares to mention it

    But don't include them in the debates!

    And outpolling Team Clegg by 2:1 :)
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    YouGov net leader ratings

    Dave - Minus 10

    Ed - Minus 34

    Nick - Minus 51

    Nigel - Plus 25
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,827
    edited April 2014
    I think I missed the start, but Radio 2 "Sounds of the 80s" played so far:

    Papa Don't Preach
    Take on Me
    I Want to Break Free

    Videos are on Freeview 302 (aka. Red Button on BBC1/2).
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    YouGov finds turnout for the Euros for the LibLabCon parties is between 45%-48%, for the Kippers it is 63%
  • Chris_AChris_A Posts: 1,237
    And on the Exchange there is, if you have deep pockets, plenty to back on there not being a record time at 1.01.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    edited April 2014
    Broadening out to 'MPs can't be trusted on expenses' on the Times fp.

    And yes vote now 'neck and neck'.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    YouGov net leader ratings

    Dave - Minus 10

    Ed - Minus 34

    Nick - Minus 51

    Nigel - Plus 25

    Antifrank may need a good hat recipe.

  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    LDs would hold seats in NorthWest, SouthWest and SouthEast...
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,487
    isam said:

    Ukip on 20% in a GE poll and no one cares to mention it

    But don't include them in the debates!

    Let me mention this now:

    Farage is caning it, as he seems to when given a platform.
    There is a decent chunk of support that wanders between blue and purple depending on recent events, but UKIP's base is a lot higher than it used to be.
    The Tories should be very, very worried and we can expect to see confusion over whether to pretend to be UKIP, ignore UKIP, or insult UKIP.
    We will probably get a contradictory mix of all three.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    LOL poll. Who cares about Euros.

    The word on the street is that Con is going to get 39% min GE2015!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    Ave_it said:

    LOL poll. Who cares about Euros.

    The word on the street is that Con is going to get 39% min GE2015!

    Con to gain Bootle?
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Ave_it said:

    LOL poll. Who cares about Euros.

    The word on the street is that Con is going to get 39% min GE2015!

    Con to gain Bootle?
    We'll be top 2!
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    RodCrosby said:

    LDs would hold seats in NorthWest, SouthWest and SouthEast...

    If you are a follower of Stuart Dickson's subsamples Lib Dems would hold their seats in East and West Midlands ( 16% in Survation sub sample ) and North either NW or Yorkshire or both but not South or South West !!!.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Anyone think Labour will exceed the 28% they got under Blair in the 1999 Euros - their highest score under PR?
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Ave_it said:

    LOL poll. Who cares about Euros.

    The word on the street is that Con is going to get 39% min GE2015!

    Con to lose 66 seats come the GE
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Ave it latest projection GE2015!

    Con 39% 334
    Lab 31% 250
    LD 15% 40
    UKIP 7% 0
    Others 8% 26 NI 18 SNP 5 PC 3
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    MarkSenior said:

    RodCrosby said:

    LDs would hold seats in NorthWest, SouthWest and SouthEast...

    If you are a follower of Stuart Dickson's subsamples...
    Nope. Neither am I a follower of Mystic Meg.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,827
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    I think I missed the start, but Radio 2 "Sounds of the 80s" played so far:

    Papa Don't Preach
    Take on Me
    I Want to Break Free

    Videos are on Freeview 302 (aka. Red Button on BBC1/2).

    Hello (Lionel Richie)
    and right now:

    Star Trekkin'

    :)
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    Freggles said:

    isam said:

    Ukip on 20% in a GE poll and no one cares to mention it

    But don't include them in the debates!

    There is a decent chunk of support that wanders between blue and purple depending on recent events, but UKIP's base is a lot higher than it used to be.
    The Tories should be very, very worried and we can expect to see confusion over whether to pretend to be UKIP, ignore UKIP, or insult UKIP.
    We will probably get a contradictory mix of all three.
    That is how SLab dealt with the threat from the SNP. That worked out well didn't it.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    edited April 2014
    Freggles said:

    isam said:

    Ukip on 20% in a GE poll and no one cares to mention it

    But don't include them in the debates!

    Let me mention this now:

    Farage is caning it, as he seems to when given a platform.
    There is a decent chunk of support that wanders between blue and purple depending on recent events, but UKIP's base is a lot higher than it used to be.
    The Tories should be very, very worried and we can expect to see confusion over whether to pretend to be UKIP, ignore UKIP, or insult UKIP.
    We will probably get a contradictory mix of all three.
    The insult option is always confusing. "You are vile. Vote for me!"
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    Damian from Survation has posted this in response some twitter exchanges re Maria Miller, about how many people know whom she is.

    Damian Lyons Lowe ‏@DamianSurvation 38s

    @DAaronovitch @afneil So here's a thing. We have an optional comment box at the end of surveys. More people than usual wrote comments
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,487
    anotherDave said:

    Freggles said:

    isam said:

    Ukip on 20% in a GE poll and no one cares to mention it

    But don't include them in the debates!

    Let me mention this now:

    Farage is caning it, as he seems to when given a platform.
    There is a decent chunk of support that wanders between blue and purple depending on recent events, but UKIP's base is a lot higher than it used to be.
    The Tories should be very, very worried and we can expect to see confusion over whether to pretend to be UKIP, ignore UKIP, or insult UKIP.
    We will probably get a contradictory mix of all three.
    The insult option is always confusing. "You are vile. Vote for me!"
    "They are nothing like us, but their voters are our kindred spirits"
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,827
    edited April 2014
    @TSE Rick Astley on Radio 2 right now :)
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    RodCrosby said:

    MarkSenior said:

    RodCrosby said:

    LDs would hold seats in NorthWest, SouthWest and SouthEast...

    If you are a follower of Stuart Dickson's subsamples...
    Nope. Neither am I a follower of Mystic Meg.
    On the other hand the Comres sub samples would see Lib Dems hold seats in Yorks , East midlands , Eastern , London and South East !!!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    Does anyone know when the Euro results will be announced?

    Normally they are released on the Sunday night?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    edited April 2014
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    @TSE Rick Astley on Radio 2 right now :)

    I Rickrolled Pbers a few weeks ago via nighthawks
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    TSE - Sunday night
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,732
    OT Katainen resigning as Finnish PM. This could be Merkel's cunning and devious plan to stop the EU Parliament getting too big for its boots: The EPP appointed Juncker as candidate for Commission president, but he really wants a different job, so the EPP wins but Juncker declines, and Katainen gets the job instead. The Parliament wanted to force the member states to pick the winning candidate by refusing to ratify anyone else, but they can't really do that if the winning candidate is refusing to take the job...
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Any news on a pb.com event at dirty dicks soon?
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    Con most votes at Euros drifting at Betfair. Now 8/1.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    Ave_it said:

    Any news on a pb.com event at dirty dicks soon?

    Mike said something about scheduling one for next month.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    TY - may is good for me!

    Nice warm up to London council elections! Hope my super Con borough which has frozen Council tax since 07 stays there!
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    MarkSenior said:

    RodCrosby said:

    MarkSenior said:

    RodCrosby said:

    LDs would hold seats in NorthWest, SouthWest and SouthEast...

    If you are a follower of Stuart Dickson's subsamples...
    Nope. Neither am I a follower of Mystic Meg.
    On the other hand the Comres sub samples would see Lib Dems hold seats in Yorks , East midlands , Eastern , London and South East !!!
    Sub samples are dead. Long live sub samples.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Stuart_Dickson said:

    Con most votes at Euros drifting at Betfair. Now 8/1.

    Scotland 'yes' 2014 50-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Does anyone know when the Euro results will be announced?

    Normally they are released on the Sunday night?

    "The results from all 28 states will be announced on the evening of Sunday 25 May."

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/us/en/elections_2014.html
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    Ave_it said:

    Any news on a pb.com event at dirty dicks soon?

    Yes - the first round will be paid for from your ISA!

  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    Ave_it said:

    Stuart_Dickson said:

    Con most votes at Euros drifting at Betfair. Now 8/1.

    Scotland 'yes' 2014 50-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    NO 1/4 currently drifting at Betfair.

    YES 7/2 with Hills and PP.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    anotherDave said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Does anyone know when the Euro results will be announced?

    Normally they are released on the Sunday night?

    "The results from all 28 states will be announced on the evening of Sunday 25 May."

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/us/en/elections_2014.html
    Thank you, I'm guest editing the site then, and at a concert that evening.

    Could that thread be the first ever PB thread written at a Nine Inch Nails gig?
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    My
    Neil said:

    Ave_it said:

    Any news on a pb.com event at dirty dicks soon?

    Yes - the first round will be paid for from your ISA!

    My ISA is so good I can buy the pub!


  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,827
    edited April 2014
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    @TSE Rick Astley on Radio 2 right now :)

    I Rickrolled Pbers a few weeks ago via nighthawks
    I saw that - they're talking about the phenomenon now.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    Neil said:

    Ave_it said:

    Any news on a pb.com event at dirty dicks soon?

    Yes - the first round will be paid for from your ISA!

    There's a story in the Sunday Times that says

    SCOTLAND YARD is examining claims from jihadists linked to al-Qaeda in Syria, who say they have signed a former Arsenal footballer to the ranks of their foreign fighters.

    Still, not the most embarrassing thing an ex Arsenal player has ever done is it?

    It can't be the one that bumped uglies with Brian Coleman can it?
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    Freggles said:

    These polls are almost as shocking as the current events in the PB Diplomacy Death Match!

    Its a corker of a strategy by Nick, I wonder how Mr. Cooke persuaded him to do that.

    Looks like you have a problem or two coming your way in 1902, those German armies ain't going East and the Frogs will have two fleets against you in the Channel come the Autumn.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    Ave_it said:

    TY - may is good for me!

    Nice warm up to London council elections! Hope my super Con borough which has frozen Council tax since 07 stays there!

    I'll buy a new pair of footwear for the PB meet
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,827
    anotherDave said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Does anyone know when the Euro results will be announced?

    Normally they are released on the Sunday night?

    "The results from all 28 states will be announced on the evening of Sunday 25 May."

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/us/en/elections_2014.html
    Phew! The election's after I come back from India (I'm leaving later this month).
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    @TSE Rick Astley on Radio 2 right now :)

    I Rickrolled Pbers a few weeks ago via nighthawks
    I saw that - they're talking about the phenemenon now.
    I have to regularly deny that I started the phenomenon of RickRolling.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,827
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    @TSE Rick Astley on Radio 2 right now :)

    I Rickrolled Pbers a few weeks ago via nighthawks
    I saw that - they're talking about the phenemenon now.
    I have to regularly deny that I started the phenomenon of RickRolling.
    Next song: Don't you want me - League.
  • peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    A truly shocking poll for the Tories - with the Maria Miller impact yet to impact.
    This is surely proof if proof were needed of the value offered by those generous folk at Ladbrokes in offering 10/1 over the past 2 or 3 days against Labour winning 351 - 375 GE seats, equivalent to a majority of between 50 - 98, which they've since trimmed back to 8/1. Possibly the best value bet of the year so far.

    For those who missed out, an alternative is to back the Tories to win between 226 - 250 seats at 6/1, especially if you consider the LibDems are likely to win more than the consensus view of 35 seats.
    As ever DYOR.
  • isamisam Posts: 42,128
    Are lads still 4/6 ukip to bt cons at the euros... Surely a humongous bet?
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    All about the 1980s...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UCoul5SRzA
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    peter_from_putney said:

    A truly shocking poll for the Tories - with the Maria Miller impact yet to impact.
    This is surely proof if proof were needed of the value offered by those generous folk at Ladbrokes in offering 10/1 over the past 2 or 3 days against Labour winning 351 - 375 GE seats, equivalent to a majority of between 50 - 98, which they've since trimmed back to 8/1. Possibly the best value bet of the year so far.

    For those who missed out, an alternative is to back the Tories to win between 226 - 250 seats at 6/1, especially if you consider the LibDems are likely to win more than the consensus view of 35 seats.
    As ever DYOR.

    I took that 10/1 as soon as Shadsy opened the market.

    I still think it is value at 8/1
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,581
    William Hill ‏@sharpeangle 35s

    Maria Miller 1/2 no longer Culture Secretary when General Election called. 6/4 still in office.
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    isam said:

    Are lads still 4/6 ukip to bt cons at the euros... Surely a humongous bet?

    Yes.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,827
    One for Josias - Cloudbusting by Ms. Bush :)
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Lab 350?!

    More chance of Arsenal winning the league!!
  • Stuart_DicksonStuart_Dickson Posts: 3,557
    peter_from_putney said:

    A truly shocking poll for the Tories - with the Maria Miller impact yet to impact.
    This is surely proof if proof were needed of the value offered by those generous folk at Ladbrokes in offering 10/1 over the past 2 or 3 days against Labour winning 351 - 375 GE seats, equivalent to a majority of between 50 - 98, which they've since trimmed back to 8/1. Possibly the best value bet of the year so far.

    For those who missed out, an alternative is to back the Tories to win between 226 - 250 seats at 6/1, especially if you consider the LibDems are likely to win more than the consensus view of 35 seats.
    As ever DYOR.

    It couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    anotherDave said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Does anyone know when the Euro results will be announced?

    Normally they are released on the Sunday night?

    "The results from all 28 states will be announced on the evening of Sunday 25 May."

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/us/en/elections_2014.html
    Phew! The election's after I come back from India (I'm leaving later this month).
    Is there a train angle to your trip?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,827
    edited April 2014
    anotherDave said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    anotherDave said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Does anyone know when the Euro results will be announced?

    Normally they are released on the Sunday night?

    "The results from all 28 states will be announced on the evening of Sunday 25 May."

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/us/en/elections_2014.html
    Phew! The election's after I come back from India (I'm leaving later this month).
    Is there a train angle to your trip?
    I'll see if I'll have time. It's been a while since I been on a train in India, mostly fly domestic or go by car in recent years. Real reason I'm going is my brother's wedding.

    For some reason I thought the Euro election was first week of May - obviously mistaken,
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,827
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    One for Josias - Cloudbusting by Ms. Bush :)

    Boys of Summer - Don Henley
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