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  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    @TGOHF The LibDems were on 39 on 4 Mar but last reached 40 back on 10 Sep

    @Patrick - Broadly the seats totals reflect :

    Con 36% .. Lab 31.5% .. LibDem16%

    Without including a range of factors that slightly depress Labour seats and slightly increase Conservative seats.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,093
    Patrick said:

    Any PBers have a view on this vote in the House today about decriminalising BBC Licence Fee non-payments? I assume it will pass.

    I also assume that this will bring huge pressure on the BBC to reform - cost effectiveness, political bias, the nature of its programming (as millions decide they aren't interested), etc.

    It is a positive development. I don't think anybody apart from the senior Beeboids likes the Licence Fee.

    BBC supporters are bleating on about using encryption using smartcards / a.n.other system. Which means that everyone will have to get new set top boxes, only a couple of years after we all had to get new boxes for the digital switchover. It'll also effect the whole of the Freeview system.

    That'll go down like a lead balloon, and won't even fix the main problem.

    It'll do me no end of good, though. ;-)
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    JackW said:

    Con 308 .. Lab 270 .. LibDem 40 .. SNP 9 .. PC 2 .. NI 18 .. Ukip 1 .. Respect 0 .. Green 1 .. Ind 0 .. Speaker 1

    Greatly appreciate your fine arse JackW, but my best guess would be to reverse the Con and Lab seat totals.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,992
    TGOHF said:

    Nah - the World Cup is on malc - you may not have noticed up there.
    Is that teh tournament they have for the diddy teams
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,306
    New thread.
  • BobaFettBobaFett Posts: 2,789
    TGOHF said:

    Who mentioned Rangers "Boba" ?
    I thought you were a Rangers fan? Apologies if I have that wrong!
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    edited March 2014
    Patrick said:

    I think - imagine the horror - there are areas of public spending where the state should exit. I'd include education in this. 100% vouchers and 100% of schools free/independent. I'd also - double horror - suggest the NHS be made more like the French or German systems with the state paying but significant levels of private delivery. We haven't even started on the quangocracy. Or endless non-jobs.

    We CAN save alot of money if we are minded to.

    Patrick, I don't see how that saves any money.

    100% vouchers for education would cost more money than at present, because the state would be helping to pay for the education of the wealthy at Eton et al, when at present the state makes a rather smaller contribution by waiving taxes on these educational charities.

    Similarly, I believe that the French and German governments spend more money on their health systems then we do on the NHS, as a percentage share of GDP. I have heard many fine arguments on the merits of those systems in delivering better healthcare, but as a money saving measure it seems rather lacking.

    If you look at economic trends the next big thing could well be economic globalisation that destroys the income of the present middle classes. People like dentists, lawyers, accountants, etc, seeing the same competition for jobs that has held down wages in manufacturing.

    This will increase income inequality and further erode the tax base of developed countries like the UK.

    You can't solve a problem like this by cutting spending, unless you decide to abandon those at the bottom of the income distribution to a life without healthcare, education and decent housing.

    These changes can only be solved by economic reform that reduces inequality in the income distribution, and that makes it harder for the very wealthy to avoid taxation. Of course, there will always be a debate about the level and nature of state spending, but the economic changes that are presently underway will make such a debate moot if they are not addressed.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    edited March 2014
    fitalass said:


    Off Topic. rcs1000 "It is worth remembering that in the days before pre-marital sex was generally accepted, as many as three quarters of men admitted to visiting prostitutes. People remember the good things about "the old days" and choose to forget the bad."

    As a family history anorak, I have to say that the idea that pre-marital sex was not a common occurrence even if it was more frowned upon before the sixties is a complete myth. It might have seen far more couples eventually getting wed at some point after the event, but it was far from uncommon over the last couple of hundred years even if in the bad old days you would be named and shamed on Sunday in the local Kirk up here in the Highlands. :)

    Always amused me that despite Scotland's Presbyterian reputation we Scots long had purely secular marriage by custom and repute - basically just shacking up together - with or without public declaration, and nary a sniff in the Kirk unless wanted. No wonder the meenister mannies liked to call them 'irregular marriages'!

  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    surbiton said:

    What are you smoking ?

    Herbal cigarettes.

    Basil filling.

  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    surbiton said:

    What are you smoking ?

    Herbal cigarettes.

    Basil filling.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    surbiton said:

    What are you smoking ?

    Herbal cigarettes.

    Basil filling.
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