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We all know how this goes in the cricket. Convicts get 250-300, England collapse against the spinning ball.

Byronic said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

We all know how this goes in the cricket. Convicts get 250-300, England collapse against the spinning ball.

Worth noting that we ARE in the lead, despite this collapse.

On this pitch, England need to be 100+ ahead.

justin124 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

So when can we start burning Catholics?

Doubtless that will be in the Tory Manifesto.

There’s surely only so far they can go to suck up to the DUP

justin124 said:

IanB2 said:

ThomasNashe said:

While Corbyn is unlikely to lose his seat, the broader truth is that the LD revival is going to hit Labour hardest in London. If not in Islington North, there could be some really big majorities overturned elsewhere. It's why the LDs are also right to put their efforts into Uxbridge. The anger at both traditional main parties in this city is palpable.

More specifically, remainer London - so as well as the SW that the LibDems already hold, the places to watch are Camden, Islington, Haringey, Ealing, Merton, Southwark and Lambeth in particular. I'd also expect an uptick in the West London Boroughs although the LDs have very little presence on the ground in Westminster-Kensington-Hammersmith (or Wandsworth, unless Justine joins).

I will be surprised if there are any LibDem gains in London at Labour's expense.The 'Tories Little Helpers' message will be deployed effectively when needed.

We'll have to see whether Labour being the Tories' little no deal Brexit helpers is a strong enough message, for sure.

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

So when can we start burning Catholics?

Surely pineapple pizza eaters are first, closely followed by those that think prosecco should be served with Christmas dinner.

Or Ed Smith?

TheScreamingEagles said:

Remember no Jimmy Anderson bowling for England, we're as doomed as the Canadians at Dieppe.

You mean there was someone else fighting the Nazis?

Actually, if I’m correctly informed, I had a cousin in the Commandos who got back from Dieppe!

Betting Post

F1: It'll take me a little while to put the blog up but Vettel at 9 each way (third the odds top 3) to 'win' qualifying looks good. He's been very close Friday and Saturday.

DecrepitJohnL said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

justin124 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

So when can we start burning Catholics?

Doubtless that will be in the Tory Manifesto.

Nonsense, Labour's manifesto however will include a commitment to burning Jews.

And who will Boris burn? The Blacks, the Muslims, the Welsh? Though while we're on the subject, aren't the constant references here to the convicts a bit past their time?

You're implying a level of discrimination I don't recognise in Boris Johnson.

He'll just burn them all.

DecrepitJohnL said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

justin124 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

So when can we start burning Catholics?

Doubtless that will be in the Tory Manifesto.

Nonsense, Labour's manifesto however will include a commitment to burning Jews.

And who will Boris burn? The Blacks, the Muslims, the Welsh? Though while we're on the subject, aren't the constant references here to the convicts a bit past their time?

Well a 1/3 of the team are (at least those are the ones that got caught).

FrancisUrquhart said:

DecrepitJohnL said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

justin124 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

So when can we start burning Catholics?

Doubtless that will be in the Tory Manifesto.

Nonsense, Labour's manifesto however will include a commitment to burning Jews.

And who will Boris burn? The Blacks, the Muslims, the Welsh? Though while we're on the subject, aren't the constant references here to the convicts a bit past their time?

Well a 1/3 of the team are (at least those are the ones that got caught).

It's a quarter, and it's a bit harsh to call them convicts. Cheating at cricket isn't technically a crime.

It's Pakistan field an actual convict.

Byronic said:

alex. said:

So in rapid succession we’ve survived the Blitz and are looking rapidly forward to the Reformation. Where’s it going to end? The Norman Conquest?

The Reformation is actually a very good analogy for Brexit, in multiple ways.

I envisage a time, quite soon, when rich, recusant Remainer families will have priest holes behind false walls, where they will hide Jolyon Maugham, or Anna Soubry.

So when do we get our Marian reaction followed by an Elizabethan compromise?

F1: pre-qualifying ramble:
http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.com/2019/08/hungary-pre-qualifying-2019.html

IanB2 said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

rottenborough said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/greg_jenner/status/1157540784268357632?s=21

Utterly deluded. These people are off their heads with this nonsense. They just can't accept a modern, interconnected world.

Do we need a vast bureaucracy and power exercised so remotely in a modern, interconnect world? The idea is so 20th century as to seem quaint.

Surrey County Council employs more people than the EU

Surrey county council employs 23,000 people. The EU employs 55,000 people. Basic innacuracy excepted though, your point is well made (though it possibly says more about Surrey County Council than the EU). But county councils at least have to empty the bins and the like. In an age where even modern hotels have one person who acts as receptionist, bar person etc., I see the political and legal structures of the EU sitting atop our national ones to be deeply wasteful and anachronistic.

Chris Woakes' Test batting average has gone above Moeen Ali's

Cricviz has England as 67% to win...hmmm....

Luckyguy1983 said:

Byronic said:

alex. said:

So in rapid succession we’ve survived the Blitz and are looking rapidly forward to the Reformation. Where’s it going to end? The Norman Conquest?

The Reformation is actually a very good analogy for Brexit, in multiple ways.

I envisage a time, quite soon, when rich, recusant Remainer families will have priest holes behind false walls, where they will hide Jolyon Maugham, or Anna Soubry.

I am imagining Boris as Henry VIII.

Well he’s well on the way as he’s on number three

Luckyguy1983 said:

IanB2 said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

rottenborough said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/greg_jenner/status/1157540784268357632?s=21

Utterly deluded. These people are off their heads with this nonsense. They just can't accept a modern, interconnected world.

Do we need a vast bureaucracy and power exercised so remotely in a modern, interconnect world? The idea is so 20th century as to seem quaint.

Surrey County Council employs more people than the EU

Surrey county council employs 23,000 people. The EU employs 55,000 people. Basic innacuracy excepted though, your point is well made (though it possibly says more about Surrey County Council than the EU). But county councils at least have to empty the bins and the like. In an age where even modern hotels have one person who acts as receptionist, bar person etc., I see the political and legal structures of the EU sitting atop our national ones to be deeply wasteful and anachronistic.

District Councils empty bins, not Counties.

Fenman said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

IanB2 said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

rottenborough said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/greg_jenner/status/1157540784268357632?s=21

Utterly deluded. These people are off their heads with this nonsense. They just can't accept a modern, interconnected world.

Do we need a vast bureaucracy and power exercised so remotely in a modern, interconnect world? The idea is so 20th century as to seem quaint.

Surrey County Council employs more people than the EU

Surrey county council employs 23,000 people. The EU employs 55,000 people. Basic innacuracy excepted though, your point is well made (though it possibly says more about Surrey County Council than the EU). But county councils at least have to empty the bins and the like. In an age where even modern hotels have one person who acts as receptionist, bar person etc., I see the political and legal structures of the EU sitting atop our national ones to be deeply wasteful and anachronistic.

District Councils empty bins, not Counties.

Don't they all subcontract it anyway? How many councils still employ binmen directly?

rcs1000 said:

Fenman said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

IanB2 said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

rottenborough said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/greg_jenner/status/1157540784268357632?s=21

Utterly deluded. These people are off their heads with this nonsense. They just can't accept a modern, interconnected world.

Do we need a vast bureaucracy and power exercised so remotely in a modern, interconnect world? The idea is so 20th century as to seem quaint.

Surrey County Council employs more people than the EU

Surrey county council employs 23,000 people. The EU employs 55,000 people. Basic innacuracy excepted though, your point is well made (though it possibly says more about Surrey County Council than the EU). But county councils at least have to empty the bins and the like. In an age where even modern hotels have one person who acts as receptionist, bar person etc., I see the political and legal structures of the EU sitting atop our national ones to be deeply wasteful and anachronistic.

District Councils empty bins, not Counties.

Don't they all subcontract it anyway? How many councils still employ binmen directly?

All authorities in the northeast are in-house.

Labour selection for Birkenhead

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Tony Norbury 116
Danielle Cornish Spencer 52
Helen Robinson 39


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dixiedean said:

rcs1000 said:

Fenman said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

IanB2 said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

rottenborough said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/greg_jenner/status/1157540784268357632?s=21

Utterly deluded. These people are off their heads with this nonsense. They just can't accept a modern, interconnected world.

Do we need a vast bureaucracy and power exercised so remotely in a modern, interconnect world? The idea is so 20th century as to seem quaint.

Surrey County Council employs more people than the EU

Surrey county council employs 23,000 people. The EU employs 55,000 people. Basic innacuracy excepted though, your point is well made (though it possibly says more about Surrey County Council than the EU). But county councils at least have to empty the bins and the like. In an age where even modern hotels have one person who acts as receptionist, bar person etc., I see the political and legal structures of the EU sitting atop our national ones to be deeply wasteful and anachronistic.

District Councils empty bins, not Counties.

Don't they all subcontract it anyway? How many councils still employ binmen directly?

All authorities in the northeast are in-house.

So is ours (Mid Essex)

Gardenwalker said:

I agree with @rcs1000 upthread.

I want to support the Lib Dems, I *do* support the Lib Dems, but they need to get their shit together. There is no time to lose.

They need to be hammering just two messages:

1. Labour is enabling a No Deal Brexit

2. Lib Dem’s single minded policy is to enable a government of national unity which will call a referendum on an impartial, fully and fairly explained “Remain” and “Brexit”.

Oh and they need to junk the university fees, or find some other formula that means we are not saddling an entire generation with debts of up to £100k upon graduation. It’s their Clause 4.

This may prove to be the most significant Lib Dem news for a while, aside from the obvious:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/blair-and-clinton-strategist-stan-greenberg-switches-to-help-lib-dems-get-elected-gg2qv3jtc

“A political strategist who worked for Bill Clinton and Tony Blair has switched sides to help the Liberal Democrats prepare for the next election. Stan Greenberg said he was a Labour supporter “in my bones”, but accused Jeremy Corbyn of “dithering” over Brexit. The veteran pollster, 74, last week met a group of senior Liberal Democrats in London. The pro-Remain party is keen to capitalise on its success in the European elections.

Byronic said:

DougSeal said:

Byronic said:

alex. said:

So in rapid succession we’ve survived the Blitz and are looking rapidly forward to the Reformation. Where’s it going to end? The Norman Conquest?

The Reformation is actually a very good analogy for Brexit, in multiple ways.

I envisage a time, quite soon, when rich, recusant Remainer families will have priest holes behind false walls, where they will hide Jolyon Maugham, or Anna Soubry.

So when do we get our Marian reaction followed by an Elizabethan compromise?

Quite soon after Liam Fox's Book of Martyrs.

Aren't we looking at King Charles III before too long? Must mean something, although I gather he's given up the mistress habit.
Unless of course, you're Jack W when he'll be Charles IV!

Edited for poor English.

DougSeal said:

Byronic said:

alex. said:

So in rapid succession we’ve survived the Blitz and are looking rapidly forward to the Reformation. Where’s it going to end? The Norman Conquest?

The Reformation is actually a very good analogy for Brexit, in multiple ways.

I envisage a time, quite soon, when rich, recusant Remainer families will have priest holes behind false walls, where they will hide Jolyon Maugham, or Anna Soubry.

So when do we get our Marian reaction followed by an Elizabethan compromise?

Then civil wars, revolution, interegnum, restoration and invitation of the Dutch and Germans to take over running the country...

OT. League One is a shambles this season. Bolton deducted 12 points, with another deduction for failing to play a match to come. 3 senior outfield players for today. Bury's first 2 games cancelled, and 12 deducted too. Serious doubts if they will start the season. And Coventry homeless and playing at Birmingham City.
Good job it is 4 down and not 3.

OldKingCole said:

ydoethur said:

OldKingCole said:

Byronic said:

DougSeal said:

Byronic said:

alex. said:

So in rapid succession we’ve survived the Blitz and are looking rapidly forward to the Reformation. Where’s it going to end? The Norman Conquest?

The Reformation is actually a very good analogy for Brexit, in multiple ways.

I envisage a time, quite soon, when rich, recusant Remainer families will have priest holes behind false walls, where they will hide Jolyon Maugham, or Anna Soubry.

So when do we get our Marian reaction followed by an Elizabethan compromise?

Quite soon after Liam Fox's Book of Martyrs.

Aren't we looking at King Charles III before too long? Must mean something, although I gather he's given up the mistress habit.
Unless of course, your Jack W when he'll be Charles IV!

Apparently he wants to do what his grandfather did - call himself George VII to avoid any embarrassing parallels.

His grandfather was Bert, wasn't he?

Albert Frederick Arthur George. Bertie to friends and family, took the regnal name George.

Charles is Charles Phillip Arthur George.

dixiedean said:

OT. League One is a shambles this season. Bolton deducted 12 points, with another deduction for failing to play a match to come. 3 senior outfield players for today. Bury's first 2 games cancelled, and 12 deducted too. Serious doubts if they will start the season. And Coventry homeless and playing at Birmingham City.
Good job it is 4 down and not 3.

The efl really needs to sort out the fit and proper persons rules. It is a disgrace.

Having said that, the glazers are a nightmare so the premier league are no better

OldKingCole said:

beentheredonethat said:

Having said that, the glazers are a nightmare so the premier league are no better

At least the team's wages have been paid!

As long as they are creaming off the top they will be but that club is in so much debt it is untrue

OldKingCole said:

beentheredonethat said:

OldKingCole said:

beentheredonethat said:

Having said that, the glazers are a nightmare so the premier league are no better

At least the team's wages have been paid!

As long as they are creaming off the top they will be but that club is in so much debt it is untrue

The finance structure of football in this country is a disgrace. If Priti Patel wants to look for criminals........

Good call. And as for Real Madrid......

OldKingCole said:

In current circumstance the regnal name Philip might be appropriate. Was Mary I's husband ever crowned in England?

They were declared joint monarchs (of England, France, Ireland, Naples, Spain and Jerusalem to be exact) and coins were struck in their names. I own one of them.

Whether he was ever formally crowned as King of England and Ireland I don't know.

He certainly made no attempt to carry on as King in his own right after Mary's death, which would perhaps indicate not.

Cricket started again. Given the effect of Lyon, wonder what Ali and Root can do on a pitch which appears to be turning quite a lot.

ydoethur said:

OldKingCole said:

In current circumstance the regnal name Philip might be appropriate. Was Mary I's husband ever crowned in England?

They were declared joint monarchs (of England, France, Ireland, Naples, Spain and Jerusalem to be exact) and coins were struck in their names. I own one of them.

Whether he was ever formally crowned as King of England and Ireland I don't know.

He certainly made no attempt to carry on as King in his own right after Mary's death, which would perhaps indicate not.

My old college, Trinity Oxford, was founded in 1555 and has the conjoined arms of Mary & Philip over the fireplace in hall. It’s a pretty Anglo-Catholic foundation historically - see Rees-Mogg, Jacob.

ydoethur said:

OldKingCole said:

ydoethur said:

OldKingCole said:

Byronic said:

DougSeal said:

Byronic said:

alex. said:

So in rapid succession we’ve survived the Blitz and are looking rapidly forward to the Reformation. Where’s it going to end? The Norman Conquest?

The Reformation is actually a very good analogy for Brexit, in multiple ways.

I envisage a time, quite soon, when rich, recusant Remainer families will have priest holes behind false walls, where they will hide Jolyon Maugham, or Anna Soubry.

So when do we get our Marian reaction followed by an Elizabethan compromise?

Quite soon after Liam Fox's Book of Martyrs.

Aren't we looking at King Charles III before too long? Must mean something, although I gather he's given up the mistress habit.
Unless of course, your Jack W when he'll be Charles IV!

Apparently he wants to do what his grandfather did - call himself George VII to avoid any embarrassing parallels.

His grandfather was Bert, wasn't he?

Albert Frederick Arthur George. Bertie to friends and family, took the regnal name George.

Charles is Charles Phillip Arthur George.

He could do worse than Charles II though. He had a reasonably good record in reconciling a deeply divided Kingdom.

DougSeal said:

ydoethur said:

OldKingCole said:

ydoethur said:

OldKingCole said:

Byronic said:

DougSeal said:

Byronic said:

alex. said:

So in rapid succession we’ve survived the Blitz and are looking rapidly forward to the Reformation. Where’s it going to end? The Norman Conquest?

The Reformation is actually a very good analogy for Brexit, in multiple ways.

I envisage a time, quite soon, when rich, recusant Remainer families will have priest holes behind false walls, where they will hide Jolyon Maugham, or Anna Soubry.

So when do we get our Marian reaction followed by an Elizabethan compromise?

Quite soon after Liam Fox's Book of Martyrs.

Aren't we looking at King Charles III before too long? Must mean something, although I gather he's given up the mistress habit.
Unless of course, your Jack W when he'll be Charles IV!

Apparently he wants to do what his grandfather did - call himself George VII to avoid any embarrassing parallels.

His grandfather was Bert, wasn't he?

Albert Frederick Arthur George. Bertie to friends and family, took the regnal name George.

Charles is Charles Phillip Arthur George.

He could do worse than Charles II though. He had a reasonably good record in reconciling a deeply divided Kingdom.

And shagging everything with a vagina.

And, of course, the last king to prorogue Parliament and rule directly, although people often forget that.

And leaving a major succession crisis that erupted into civil war in two years and revolution followed by war in Ireland in three.

Apart from that, he was a dazzling success.

(Fun fact - if he becomes King, William will be the first descendant of Charles II to be King.)

DougSeal said:

ydoethur said:

OldKingCole said:

ydoethur said:

OldKingCole said:

Byronic said:

DougSeal said:

Byronic said:

alex. said:

So in rapid succession we’ve survived the Blitz and are looking rapidly forward to the Reformation. Where’s it going to end? The Norman Conquest?

The Reformation is actually a very good analogy for Brexit, in multiple ways.

I envisage a time, quite soon, when rich, recusant Remainer families will have priest holes behind false walls, where they will hide Jolyon Maugham, or Anna Soubry.

So when do we get our Marian reaction followed by an Elizabethan compromise?

Quite soon after Liam Fox's Book of Martyrs.

Aren't we looking at King Charles III before too long? Must mean something, although I gather he's given up the mistress habit.
Unless of course, your Jack W when he'll be Charles IV!

Apparently he wants to do what his grandfather did - call himself George VII to avoid any embarrassing parallels.

His grandfather was Bert, wasn't he?

Albert Frederick Arthur George. Bertie to friends and family, took the regnal name George.

Charles is Charles Phillip Arthur George.

He could do worse than Charles II though. He had a reasonably good record in reconciling a deeply divided Kingdom.

The regicides were nearly all chased down and executed though. Some, like Cromwell, after they'd died!

Gardenwalker said:

I agree with @rcs1000 upthread.

I want to support the Lib Dems, I *do* support the Lib Dems, but they need to get their shit together. There is no time to lose.

They need to be hammering just two messages:

1. Labour is enabling a No Deal Brexit

2. Lib Dem’s single minded policy is to enable a government of national unity which will call a referendum on an impartial, fully and fairly explained “Remain” and “Brexit”.

Oh and they need to junk the university fees, or find some other formula that means we are not saddling an entire generation with debts of up to £100k upon graduation. It’s their Clause 4.

If youre looking for clarity you're looking in the wrong place (except on Brexit). Work with Labour? Well, maybe. But not a coalition. Well, not with Corbyn. Work with the Tories? Well, not over Brexit. With Boris? Well, it hasn't come up. Austerity? Was a good thing, but maybe too much. Time to stop it anyway. Well, within reason.

I don't dislike the LibDems. Hell, I'm in coalition with them. But if you rely on them to do anything in particular nationally, you're building on sand.

DecrepitJohnL said:

OldKingCole said:

DougSeal said:

ydoethur said:

OldKingCole said:

ydoethur said:

OldKingCole said:

Byronic said:

DougSeal said:

Byronic said:

alex. said:

So in rapid succession we’ve survived the Blitz and are looking rapidly forward to the Reformation. Where’s it going to end? The Norman Conquest?

The Reformation is actually a very good analogy for Brexit, in multiple ways.

I envisage a time, quite soon, when rich, recusant Remainer families will have priest holes behind false walls, where they will hide Jolyon Maugham, or Anna Soubry.

So when do we get our Marian reaction followed by an Elizabethan compromise?

Quite soon after Liam Fox's Book of Martyrs.

Aren't we looking at King Charles III before too long? Must mean something, although I gather he's given up the mistress habit.
Unless of course, your Jack W when he'll be Charles IV!

Apparently he wants to do what his grandfather did - call himself George VII to avoid any embarrassing parallels.

His grandfather was Bert, wasn't he?

Albert Frederick Arthur George. Bertie to friends and family, took the regnal name George.

Charles is Charles Phillip Arthur George.

He could do worse than Charles II though. He had a reasonably good record in reconciling a deeply divided Kingdom.

The regicides were nearly all chased down and executed though. Some, like Cromwell, after they'd died!

If you are going to be executed, that is probably the best time.

That is unarguable logic.

Henry V was the best one. After one of his friends rebelled against him, he gave him a fair trial.

But it was five months after the friend in question had been hanged.

beentheredonethat said:

dixiedean said:

beentheredonethat said:

OldKingCole said:

beentheredonethat said:

Having said that, the glazers are a nightmare so the premier league are no better

At least the team's wages have been paid!

As long as they are creaming off the top they will be but that club is in so much debt it is untrue

That was at the root of Bolton's problems. Massive debt, easily serviceable whilst in the PL...

Man Utd dropped out in the 70’s. Not inconceivable it could happen again. Then something may get done

Dropping out is fine, as long as you get back before the parachute money ends, as Newcastle and West Ham have proved more than once. It is if you don't, and, even worse, fall into the third a la Leeds. Now Bolton. Nowt will get done.

FrancisUrquhart said:

Convicts cheating again...

Steve Smith is fairly blatantly the man setting the field for Australia at the moment. He is still banned by Cricket Australia from holding a leadership position for another year.

If he's going to set them so the number 10 can put in any half century stand, let's not complain.

ydoethur said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Convicts cheating again...

Steve Smith is fairly blatantly the man setting the field for Australia at the moment. He is still banned by Cricket Australia from holding a leadership position for another year.

If he's going to set them so the number 10 can put in any half century stand, let's not complain.

Lock him up, lock him up....

dixiedean said:

beentheredonethat said:

dixiedean said:

beentheredonethat said:

OldKingCole said:

beentheredonethat said:

Having said that, the glazers are a nightmare so the premier league are no better

At least the team's wages have been paid!

As long as they are creaming off the top they will be but that club is in so much debt it is untrue

That was at the root of Bolton's problems. Massive debt, easily serviceable whilst in the PL...

Man Utd dropped out in the 70’s. Not inconceivable it could happen again. Then something may get done

Dropping out is fine, as long as you get back before the parachute money ends, as Newcastle and West Ham have proved more than once. It is if you don't, and, even worse, fall into the third a la Leeds. Now Bolton. Nowt will get done.

True