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Sorry. It's just that, as Cordelia said in 'Brideshead Revisited' of religion, it's a subject that just seems to come up naturally.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Bond, please refrain from mentioning Jet from Gladiators. Testing's finished and I'm trying to get some work done.
If you're genuinely busy you'd better not follow this link. It's fairly safe for work, unless that is you were trying to do some.
http://www.dianeyoudale.co.uk/jdphotoshoot.html0 -
David Charter @DavidCharter 3m
#Merkel 'we did not get into technicalities' in private talks with Cameron ie don't ask me for details cos there are none0 -
I thought you had a mini, not the pug ugly over-watered countryman version....SeanT said:
My car is FAR tackier and pornier than that. It is a Mini Cooper John Cooper Works, in pepper white with red trim, like something from Penthouse circa 1975. The Mini Cooper JCW is the first car to ever do a complete backflip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry-ofJHatGs
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Mr. Jessop, the timesheets don't matter so much because of the huge variability (unlike 2009 when they were a handy guide). However, Renault's 4 teams occupying spots in the bottom 5 is, perhaps, telling.
From the BBC livefeed:
"BBC Sport's chief F1 writer Andrew Benson says: "In a word, yes. The rules say that once the power-unit has been homologated - and designs have to be submitted by tomorrow (Friday) - changes can only be made on the grounds of safety, cost-saving or reliability. But not on performance. Any requests are circulated to the other manufacturers for peer review, but the FIA does not have to take their views into account.
"In reality, though, if one or more engine manufacturers are miles behind this year, it is a situation that will not be allowed to continue for too long. With only three car companies in the sport, F1 cannot afford for one or more of them to be embarrassed. The risk of them quitting in those circumstances is too great.""
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Not if you are looking at 'transaction costs' (the SNP argument) - then you should look at absolute value of trade, not 'trade per head'. In any case, I suspect many rUK companies would continue to invoice in sterling......the major transaction cost (the Alex tax) will be for Scottish businesses.....edmundintokyo said:
The right way to look at this is per head, rather than at the aggregate total.Scott_P said:
If trade is the reason, as others have noted, we do twice or four times as much trade with Europe or America. A currency union with them is not in our interest. Nor is it with Scotlandedmundintokyo said:
I also don't have a strong opinion on the thing overall but rUK will have a lot of businesses doing a lot of trade with Scotland, in many cases already heavily integrated in their supply chains on the assumption that there's no currency risk. They'd obviously be better off using the same unit of exchange, rather than Scotland having its own currency (even with a peg, as pegs can break) or using the Euro.MaxPB said:FPT:
Can someone rationally explain exactly what is in our interest as rUK to enter a formal currency union with an independent Scotland. So far all that I have read is that there would be no transaction tax between Scot/rUK trade. Surely there is more to it than that. I really do want to know since I have yet to form a view on Scottish independence...
At the same time they wouldn't want to write Salmond a blank cheque, and he may prefer to have his own currency rather than put up with the restrictions that London might feel it needed, but it has to at least be worthwhile for both sides to at least _try_ to cut a deal.
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@joeyjonessky: "Where there's a will there's a way" - now that, @David_Cameron will like from the Chancellor.
@paulwaugh: Signif. Merkel backs Cam on freedom of movement re benefit tourism. Says Germans who've worked 40yrs different from new migrants0 -
@JGForsyth: Think Cameron will be quite pleased with Merkel 's comments about protections for Eurozone outs. Presser so far more helpful than the speech0
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Just seen Wee Eck's response to Standard Life
Mr Salmond, the Scottish First Minister, said that Standard Life’s announcement backed up his case that Scotland must be allowed to retain the pound, and to continue to shelter under the stability and guarantees offered by the Bank of England and the City of London.
...remain part of the UK, then. Better Together, perhaps.
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Reuters World @ReutersWorld 3h
Rising immigration embarrasses Britain's Cameron before vote http://reut.rs/1hCenli0 -
Mr. P, is that Salmond's actual response?
I can see why that would be in Scotland's interest... but why the UK's?0 -
Tracey Magee @Tracey_utv 4m
Asked if whole OTR process was a mistake PM says the Downey letter was a mistake & inquiry will insure no more letters were sent in error0 -
There will be a judge-led inquiry into the On the Runs.
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The thing I really like about Germany is the fact that they have a three-tier education system and almost nobody proposes to change it. Obviously the British way of organising schools hasn't impressed them much.0
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Please. God. No.
‘No’ vote in September could just lead to a ‘neverendum’
SCOTS could face another independence referendum in little more than three years, Alex Salmond hinted yesterday as he vowed to keep battling to break up Britain.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/462045/No-vote-in-September-could-just-lead-to-a-neverendum0 -
That's from a Times article. Here is the quote that accompanies itMorris_Dancer said:Mr. P, is that Salmond's actual response?
I can see why that would be in Scotland's interest... but why the UK's?“The Scottish Government puts forward the concept of a shared currency and regulatory framework which is exactly the sort of things that Standard Life have been calling for,” he told MSPs at First Minister’s Questions today.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/business/industries/banking/article4017743.ece
Johann Lamont, the Scottish Labour leader, accused him of “denial, deception and delusion”.0 -
Don't have a list I am afraid! I just mention glaring inconsistencies when I see them as and whenPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
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Nick Robinson @bbcnickrobinson 2h
Merkel says EU freedom of movement is crucial pre-condition for democracy & prosperity
Some tiny scraps for the fop on benefit tourism but the Cameroons will have quite the job persuading tory Eurosceptics this was everything they wanted. Of course they are very gullible so you just never know.0 -
An interesting look at peoples views of Why they support UKIP:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10660219/Why-do-you-support-Ukip-Party-supporters-reveal-their-views.html0 -
No I don't think soTheuniondivvie said:
Do you not think you're burning desire for justice might be better employed as a special constable?isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?
'He wasn't the brightest, but once he was on the trail of that knicker thief, he just wouldn't let go.'
I don't think justice is the right word. A crackdown on sycophancy and hypocrisy is more how I see it0 -
...remain part of the UK, then. Better Together, perhaps.Scott_P said:Just seen Wee Eck's response to Standard Life
Mr Salmond, the Scottish First Minister, said that Standard Life’s announcement backed up his case that Scotland must be allowed to retain the pound, and to continue to shelter under the stability and guarantees offered by the Bank of England and the City of London.
'Je n'en vois pas la nécessité' is the easy answer to that.
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Averts a crisis but unlikely to solve the underlying problem.Sean_F said:There will be a judge-led inquiry into the On the Runs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-26373678
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I think I see the problem there. If we divide PB into intelligent articulates on one side and dumb tribal trolls on the other, the slightly bizarre accusations of hypocrisy and demands for balance will just mean that you won't be allowed to criticise a DTT without laying into an IA. Tricky.AveryLP said:
PolruanPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
The problem you present to classifiers is similar to that created by Southam Observer: you are both right footed players who have chosen wrongly to play on the left wing.
We need to draw up a new set of PB Classification rules which are based on intelligence and articulacy rather than class and social history.
It would avoid many misunderstandings and arguments.
It might even prevent Richard N getting locked into argument with Richard T: as clear an example one can get of how weapons of mass destruction can lead to mutually assured destruction.
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The Telegraph
Net migration soars over 200,000 despite David Cameron's pledge
Official figures show a net flow of 212,000 migrants to Britain, up nearly 60,000 year-on-year, with a surge in arrivals from Romania and Bulgaria
General Election @Election_2015 27m
'You can picture the posters: "Cameron said he'd get immigration under 100,000. It's now over 200,000. Vote UKIP." ' http://fw.to/kK2UNeF0 -
The force is with him.SeanT said:
My car is FAR tackier and pornier than that. It is a Mini Cooper John Cooper Works, in pepper white with red trim, like something from Penthouse circa 1975. The Mini Cooper JCW is the first car to ever do a complete backflip:Theuniondivvie said:Mick_Pork said:
Please get him started on his Alan Partridge style tales of hardship. It's absolutely priceless.JosiasJessop said:
Actually, given Nicky Clarke's recent epochal intervention in the Indy debate, evidence is mounting up for Seant's socio-economic and cultural status. I suppose a hairdresser can be posh?
http://tinyurl.com/ppt56a8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry-ofJHatGs
Ooooh. *sizzle*0 -
Miss Vance, Salmond will lose credibility doing nonsense like that. The Scots, if they believe they might have a second vote in a few years, will be more tempted to stay with the UK. Also, aren't there quotes about this being a once in a generation issue?0
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Mr. Fett, welcome to pb.com. Please remember: no disintegrations.0
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I am available to "resolve" disputes.isam said:
Don't have a list I am afraid! I just mention glaring inconsistencies when I see them as and whenPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
At the right price.
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AndyJS said:
The thing I really like about Germany is the fact that they have a three-tier education system and almost nobody proposes to change it. Obviously the British way of organising schools hasn't impressed them much.
Not true there are Gesamtschule (comprehensive schools) and they are becoming more popular.
The German "3-tier" system works well in places where the pupils are able to move between schools where appropriate. But there are large numbers of children who fall between the cracks. One of the most noticeable groups0are children from immigrant families whose German at the age of 10 is significantly worse than those whose parents speak German at home but have caught up by their mid-teens. If such children are not in an area which accommodates for this then the immigrant children are shafted by this system.
Overall though yes the German education system is much better than in the UK and I'm qualified to say this as it employs me.
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@DavidCharter: #Merkel on EU changes 'I firmly believe that what we are discussing today is doable' - music to Cameron's ears0
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Welcome to pb.com, Herr Doof (hopefully an inaccurate username).0
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On a site where there are constant debates going on between people of differing political views, it is hardly bizarre to point it out when people argue for something as a matter of principle which they are happy to let go when it suits themPolruan said:
I think I see the problem there. If we divide PB into intelligent articulates on one side and dumb tribal trolls on the other, the slightly bizarre accusations of hypocrisy and demands for balance will just mean that you won't be allowed to criticise a DTT without laying into an IA. Tricky.AveryLP said:
PolruanPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
The problem you present to classifiers is similar to that created by Southam Observer: you are both right footed players who have chosen wrongly to play on the left wing.
We need to draw up a new set of PB Classification rules which are based on intelligence and articulacy rather than class and social history.
It would avoid many misunderstandings and arguments.
It might even prevent Richard N getting locked into argument with Richard T: as clear an example one can get of how weapons of mass destruction can lead to mutually assured destruction.0 -
If only you knew the power of the Daft Side!BobaFett said:
I am available to "resolve" disputes.isam said:
Don't have a list I am afraid! I just mention glaring inconsistencies when I see them as and whenPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
At the right price.
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From the BBC Magazine:
How did the pro-paedophile group PIE exist openly for 10 years?
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Boba... Fett?BobaFett said:
I am available to "resolve" disputes.isam said:
Don't have a list I am afraid! I just mention glaring inconsistencies when I see them as and whenPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
At the right price.0 -
Do nothing (given Cameron has sod all chance of winning the next election and Merkel is rumoured to be standing down around) then I imagine is extremely doable.Scott_P said:@DavidCharter: #Merkel on EU changes 'I firmly believe that what we are discussing today is doable' - music to Cameron's ears
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I am not going so far as to advocate a new treaty: merely the pragmatic reworking of specific rules.Polruan said:
I think I see the problem there. If we divide PB into intelligent articulates on one side and dumb tribal trolls on the other, the slightly bizarre accusations of hypocrisy and demands for balance will just mean that you won't be allowed to criticise a DTT without laying into an IA. Tricky.AveryLP said:
PolruanPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
The problem you present to classifiers is similar to that created by Southam Observer: you are both right footed players who have chosen wrongly to play on the left wing.
We need to draw up a new set of PB Classification rules which are based on intelligence and articulacy rather than class and social history.
It would avoid many misunderstandings and arguments.
It might even prevent Richard N getting locked into argument with Richard T: as clear an example one can get of how weapons of mass destruction can lead to mutually assured destruction.
This tactic is designed to avoid the attention of the trolls and their consequent scratchings.
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'Crackdown'?isam said:
No I don't think soTheuniondivvie said:
Do you not think you're burning desire for justice might be better employed as a special constable?isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?
'He wasn't the brightest, but once he was on the trail of that knicker thief, he just wouldn't let go.'
I don't think justice is the right word. A crackdown on sycophancy and hypocrisy is more how I see it
Lol, perhaps the TSG would be more your thing.
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AveryLP said:
I am not going so far as to advocate a new treaty: merely the pragmatic reworking of specific rules.Polruan said:
I think I see the problem there. If we divide PB into intelligent articulates on one side and dumb tribal trolls on the other, the slightly bizarre accusations of hypocrisy and demands for balance will just mean that you won't be allowed to criticise a DTT without laying into an IA. Tricky.AveryLP said:
PolruanPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
The problem you present to classifiers is similar to that created by Southam Observer: you are both right footed players who have chosen wrongly to play on the left wing.
We need to draw up a new set of PB Classification rules which are based on intelligence and articulacy rather than class and social history.
It would avoid many misunderstandings and arguments.
It might even prevent Richard N getting locked into argument with Richard T: as clear an example one can get of how weapons of mass destruction can lead to mutually assured destruction.
This tactic is designed to avoid the attention of the trolls and their consequent scratchings.
Stick it in your yellow box Seth O Logue. That way the rest of PB will know to ignore the desperate and inept spin as usual.
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@TelePolitics: Blog: What would an independent Scottish BBC look like? http://t.co/XaEBmUccAZ
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Now who was the bright spark who decided today was a good day to announce the worst immigration figures in three years and back to the dark days of Labours uncontrolled immigration policy ? It puts Merkel's lack of commitment to Cameron domestic pledges on the EU (for a unilateral renegotiation by 2017) in its proper light.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-camerons-migration-pledge-in-tatters-as-figures-reveal-net-immigration-of-200000-9157334.html
There was also an increase in numbers of Romanians and Bulgarians coming to Britain, even though the figures cover a period before people from the two countries gained full rights to work in this country.
Levels of immigration from the EU countries are at the highest level since 1964.0 -
Getting very messy now. An inquiry may not be enough. Let's hope it's not a 'Hutton' style one
Nicholas Watt @nicholaswatt 2m
Former SF director of publicity @molloy1916 says Gerry Kelly made public the Downey OTR letter in May 2013 http://tinyurl.com/qcfzs9w0 -
No idea what you are on about there, but think you're a lost cause anyway... the sycophancy and hypocrisy run too deepTheuniondivvie said:
'Crackdown'?isam said:
No I don't think soTheuniondivvie said:
Do you not think you're burning desire for justice might be better employed as a special constable?isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?
'He wasn't the brightest, but once he was on the trail of that knicker thief, he just wouldn't let go.'
I don't think justice is the right word. A crackdown on sycophancy and hypocrisy is more how I see it
Lol, perhaps the TSG would be more your thing.0 -
At your service.isam said:
Boba... Fett?BobaFett said:
I am available to "resolve" disputes.isam said:
Don't have a list I am afraid! I just mention glaring inconsistencies when I see them as and whenPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
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The uniforms and the marching up and down and up and down? Of course. *chortle*Theuniondivvie said:
'Crackdown'?isam said:
No I don't think soTheuniondivvie said:
Do you not think you're burning desire for justice might be better employed as a special constable?isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?
'He wasn't the brightest, but once he was on the trail of that knicker thief, he just wouldn't let go.'
I don't think justice is the right word. A crackdown on sycophancy and hypocrisy is more how I see it
Lol, perhaps the TSG would be more your thing.
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Territorial Support Group, I think.isam said:
No idea what you are on about there, but think you're a lost cause anyway... the sycophancy and hypocrisy run too deepTheuniondivvie said:
'Crackdown'?isam said:
No I don't think soTheuniondivvie said:
Do you not think you're burning desire for justice might be better employed as a special constable?isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?
'He wasn't the brightest, but once he was on the trail of that knicker thief, he just wouldn't let go.'
I don't think justice is the right word. A crackdown on sycophancy and hypocrisy is more how I see it
Lol, perhaps the TSG would be more your thing.0 -
HiBobaFett said:
At your service.isam said:
Boba... Fett?BobaFett said:
I am available to "resolve" disputes.isam said:
Don't have a list I am afraid! I just mention glaring inconsistencies when I see them as and whenPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
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...especially on the beachAveryLP said:
They make a lovely couple.
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You and your cloned stormtrooper armies! Welcome to the site.BobaFett said:
I am available to "resolve" disputes.isam said:
Don't have a list I am afraid! I just mention glaring inconsistencies when I see them as and whenPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
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LOLisam said:
HiBobaFett said:
At your service.isam said:
Boba... Fett?BobaFett said:
I am available to "resolve" disputes.isam said:
Don't have a list I am afraid! I just mention glaring inconsistencies when I see them as and whenPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
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What is your take on the Harriet Harman story in the news at the moment?
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Aww.isam said:
No idea what you are on about there, but think you're a lost cause anyway... the sycophancy and hypocrisy run too deep
Hopefully experience or a wise parent has taught you to attach your toys to your pram with elastic.
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So oblique! You're a genius! That will get past the @PBModerator and the far right rule I guessMick_Pork said:
The uniforms and the marching up and down and up and down? Of course. *chortle*Theuniondivvie said:
'Crackdown'?isam said:
No I don't think soTheuniondivvie said:
Do you not think you're burning desire for justice might be better employed as a special constable?isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?
'He wasn't the brightest, but once he was on the trail of that knicker thief, he just wouldn't let go.'
I don't think justice is the right word. A crackdown on sycophancy and hypocrisy is more how I see it
Lol, perhaps the TSG would be more your thing.
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And what is your view of the change of power in Ukraine vis-à-vis the transfer of power in Cloud City, Bespin?isam said:
HiBobaFett said:
At your service.isam said:
Boba... Fett?BobaFett said:
I am available to "resolve" disputes.isam said:
Don't have a list I am afraid! I just mention glaring inconsistencies when I see them as and whenPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
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Haven't taken much notice of itAnorak said:
And what is your view of the change of power in Ukraine vis-à-vis the transfer of power in Cloud City, Bespin?isam said:
HiBobaFett said:
At your service.isam said:
Boba... Fett?BobaFett said:
I am available to "resolve" disputes.isam said:
Don't have a list I am afraid! I just mention glaring inconsistencies when I see them as and whenPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
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Haha are you McToenails to Stuart Dicksons Gordo?Theuniondivvie said:
Aww.isam said:
No idea what you are on about there, but think you're a lost cause anyway... the sycophancy and hypocrisy run too deep
Hopefully experience has taught you to attach your toys to your pram with elastic.0 -
As you wish.Anorak said:
And what is your view of the change of power in Ukraine vis-à-vis the transfer of power in Cloud City, Bespin?isam said:
HiBobaFett said:
At your service.isam said:
Boba... Fett?BobaFett said:
I am available to "resolve" disputes.isam said:
Don't have a list I am afraid! I just mention glaring inconsistencies when I see them as and whenPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
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What is your take on the Harriet Harman story in the news at the moment?
ROFL
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I paid Paul Dacre a visit earlier. Let's just say it was a very useful meeting.isam said:
HiBobaFett said:
At your service.isam said:
Boba... Fett?BobaFett said:
I am available to "resolve" disputes.isam said:
Don't have a list I am afraid! I just mention glaring inconsistencies when I see them as and whenPolruan said:
Just to help out those of us who don't see the world in such factional terms, could you perhaps share a list of your "left team" and "right team" (I assume that I'll be in the former)? I'll then make sure that I criticise the behaviour of both parties with equal frequency.isam said:
Even this morning, theuniondivvie was teasing Richard Nabavi for not accepting a bet, but not saying a word when Stuart Dickson did the same.. .why the double standards I wonder?TheWatcher said:
Odd. They were all over this thread yesterday.Socrates said:
Several times on this board, right wingers have turned around and criticized it when people on their own side have stepped over the line (e.g. SeanT), not to mention the moderator stepping in. But even with something as obviously nasty as accusing people of drooling over coverage of child abuse, nothing is said by other left wingers. Even when it's someone that spends about half their posts throwing abuse at other people.isam said:How many left wingers up in arms about the Harman story will pull @MickPork up for the "drooling" comment I wonder...
Mind you at least he has confirmed it was said, yesterday they were telling me I made it up!
http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/02/26/so-far-at-least-the-intense-daily-mail-campaign-against-harriet-harman-is-not-being-reflected-in-the-daily-yougov-figures/#vanilla-comments
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What is your take on the Harriet Harman story in the news at the moment?
From my point of view.
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Perhaps a dummy might be more useful since the shrieking for help is embarrassingly loud and whiny.Theuniondivvie said:
Aww.isam said:
No idea what you are on about there, but think you're a lost cause anyway... the sycophancy and hypocrisy run too deep
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Levels of immigration from the EU countries are at the highest level since 1964.
No government can do anything about immigration from EU countries. Especially when our economy is outperforming theirs.
Personally I would far rather immigration from EU countries than from the third world, and in terms of the latter, the government is doing much better.
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Something else that would go with independence:
According to Whitehall sources, the Scottish government will get an "absolute veto" on the proposals.
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Since people seem particularly bellicose today, I thought I'd just mention a book I've finished reading. It's called "Beyond the Call of Duty," and is by Nick Kinsella and Ben Ando, the latter being the BBC's crime correspondent.
It details 28 short stories of police heroism, and after recent events it's a rather timely reminder that most men and women in the police are not like Wallis and Glanville.0 -
Haha don't put youself downMick_Pork said:
Perhaps a dummy might be more useful since the shrieking for help is embarrassingly loud and whiny.Theuniondivvie said:
Aww.isam said:
No idea what you are on about there, but think you're a lost cause anyway... the sycophancy and hypocrisy run too deep
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If you're using "the third world" to mean "developing world", then I'd point out Eastern Europe counts as that.taffys said:Levels of immigration from the EU countries are at the highest level since 1964.
No government can do anything about immigration from EU countries. Especially when our economy is outperforming theirs.
Personally I would far rather immigration from EU countries than from the third world, and in terms of the latter, the government is doing much better.
As for the non-EU developing world, is the government really achieving much on it?0 -
There is a reason that there has been no public discussion of this matter until 25 February this year, notwithstanding Downey's arrest on 19 May 2013 at Gatwick Airport. Something to do with the fact that reporting any of the details of the case would have landed you in Wandsworth.Mick_Pork said:Getting very messy now. An inquiry may not be enough. Let's hope it's not a 'Hutton' style one
Nicholas Watt @nicholaswatt 2m
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A startling level of self-insight! Congratulations!Mick_Pork said:
Perhaps a dummy might be more useful since the shrieking for help is embarrassingly loud and whiny.Theuniondivvie said:
Aww.isam said:
No idea what you are on about there, but think you're a lost cause anyway... the sycophancy and hypocrisy run too deep
Hopefully experience or a wise parent has taught you to attach your toys to your pram with elastic.
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Might not have been the wisest idea to posture on it so much and make a pledge on it then?taffys said:Levels of immigration from the EU countries are at the highest level since 1964.
No government can do anything about immigration from EU countries. Especially when our economy is outperforming theirs.
Nobody forced Cammie to, well, apart from his own backbenchers of course and it's they who will be most angry over this when they see just how ecstatic Farage is today.0 -
isam already did the "No, YOU are!" dazzling witty riposte thanks. Try harder dear.CarlottaVance said:
A startling level of self-insight! Congratulations!Mick_Pork said:
Perhaps a dummy might be more useful since the shrieking for help is embarrassingly loud and whiny.Theuniondivvie said:
Aww.isam said:
No idea what you are on about there, but think you're a lost cause anyway... the sycophancy and hypocrisy run too deep
Hopefully experience or a wise parent has taught you to attach your toys to your pram with elastic.0 -
'Haha' - the last resort of the terminally touchy & thin skinned, pretending it's all a bit of a laugh.isam said:
Haha are you McToenails to Stuart Dicksons Gordo?Theuniondivvie said:
Aww.isam said:
No idea what you are on about there, but think you're a lost cause anyway... the sycophancy and hypocrisy run too deep
Hopefully experience has taught you to attach your toys to your pram with elastic.
You seem to be the one obsessed with Stuart D, perhaps you've got a sublimated thing for Cybernats?
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Obsessed is a stretch but Stuart is King of the Nats that's fo sho!Theuniondivvie said:
'Haha' - the last resort of the terminally touchy & thin skinned, pretending it's all a bit of a laugh.isam said:
Haha are you McToenails to Stuart Dicksons Gordo?Theuniondivvie said:
Aww.isam said:
No idea what you are on about there, but think you're a lost cause anyway... the sycophancy and hypocrisy run too deep
Hopefully experience has taught you to attach your toys to your pram with elastic.
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Which is no doubt reassuring for those tasked to see how this whole debacle occurred.Life_ina_market_town said:
There is a reason that there has been no public discussion of this matter until 25 February this year, notwithstanding Downey's arrest on 19 May 2013 at Gatwick Airport. Something to do with the fact that reporting any of the details of the case would have landed you in Wandsworth.Mick_Pork said:Getting very messy now. An inquiry may not be enough. Let's hope it's not a 'Hutton' style one
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http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/business/industries/banking/article4017743.eceScott_P said:
That's from a Times article. Here is the quote that accompanies itMorris_Dancer said:Mr. P, is that Salmond's actual response?
I can see why that would be in Scotland's interest... but why the UK's?“The Scottish Government puts forward the concept of a shared currency and regulatory framework which is exactly the sort of things that Standard Life have been calling for,” he told MSPs at First Minister’s Questions today.
Johann Lamont, the Scottish Labour leader, accused him of “denial, deception and delusion”.
MD, in other words just Scott's usual fantasy made up horse manure. Liar liar his pants are on fire yet again-1 -
Just catching up on today's wider news - has anyone else read through the details of GCHQ trawling webcam data in "bulk" (i.e. not based on target-specific intelligence)?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/27/gchq-nsa-webcam-images-internet-yahoo
I'm sure there are many strikingly concerning civil liberties issues in here, but it's worth pointing out that a) GCHQ appeared shocked how many "intimate images" were broadcast through video chat and b) they managed to reach the very precise conclusion that, at a 95% confidence level, 7.1% (+/- 3.7%) of images sent in yahoo video chat contained "undesirable nudity". Which has got to be worth knowing, although further clarification would be welcome on whether it was the subjects (rather than the mere fact) of the nudity that were undesirable.0 -
Why are the SNP so relaxed about dancing to the Kremlin’s tune?malcolmg said:
The big crawler got sent packing with egg on his face. Putin just laughed at him.Socrates said:It's also worth pointing out that the source for Cameron asking Putin to "intervene" in Scotland was a Kremlin-run Russian news organization, without any evidence.
one can understand RT’s enthusiasm for Scottish independence: the break-up of the United Kingdom would undeniably be in the Russian national interest. Russia fears the projection of Western power; and Britain is far greater than the sum of its parts when it comes to an international presence. Divide and conquer is not simply a worn-out cliché.
What is surprising is that the Scottish Nationalists are so keen to dance to the former KGB man’s tune. Why else would senior SNP figures choose so repeatedly appear on RT?
http://www.leftfootforward.org/2014/02/why-are-the-snp-so-relaxed-about-dancing-to-the-kremlins-tune/0 -
You should read what he calls Professors of Law or Economics.....Scott_P said:
Malcolm, I posted the text from the article in both cases.malcolmg said:
MD, in other words just Scott's usual fantasy made up horse manure. Liar liar his pants are on fire yet again
Why do you persist in calling me a liar for posting things written by other people?
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john collings @qeensdale 11m
David Cameron's migration pledge 'in tatters', as figures reveal net immigration of 200,000 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-camerons-migration-pledge-in-tatters-as-figures-reveal-net-immigration-of-200000-9157334.html …0 -
I wonder if the statement that forms the title of this thread will remain true given what we have learned today about the true scale of Romanian and Bulgarian immigration.0
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Or, given some of the software and hacks available, whether the targets knew their webcams were on ...Polruan said:Just catching up on today's wider news - has anyone else read through the details of GCHQ trawling webcam data in "bulk" (i.e. not based on target-specific intelligence)?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/27/gchq-nsa-webcam-images-internet-yahoo
I'm sure there are many strikingly concerning civil liberties issues in here, but it's worth pointing out that a) GCHQ appeared shocked how many "intimate images" were broadcast through video chat and b) they managed to reach the very precise conclusion that, at a 95% confidence level, 7.1% (+/- 3.7%) of images sent in yahoo video chat contained "undesirable nudity". Which has got to be worth knowing, although further clarification would be welcome on whether it was the subjects (rather than the mere fact) of the nudity that were undesirable.0 -
Britain as a power, beaten at every turn by a few boys with towels on their heads. Iran took their i-pods and made their sailors cry, boo hoo we are powerful.CarlottaVance said:
Why are the SNP so relaxed about dancing to the Kremlin’s tune?malcolmg said:
The big crawler got sent packing with egg on his face. Putin just laughed at him.Socrates said:It's also worth pointing out that the source for Cameron asking Putin to "intervene" in Scotland was a Kremlin-run Russian news organization, without any evidence.
one can understand RT’s enthusiasm for Scottish independence: the break-up of the United Kingdom would undeniably be in the Russian national interest. Russia fears the projection of Western power; and Britain is far greater than the sum of its parts when it comes to an international presence. Divide and conquer is not simply a worn-out cliché.
What is surprising is that the Scottish Nationalists are so keen to dance to the former KGB man’s tune. Why else would senior SNP figures choose so repeatedly appear on RT?
http://www.leftfootforward.org/2014/02/why-are-the-snp-so-relaxed-about-dancing-to-the-kremlins-tune/0 -
you posted bollocks which bore no relation whatsoever to what Salmond actually said, you do it on a regular basis, ergo more lies.Scott_P said:
Malcolm, I posted the text from the article in both cases.malcolmg said:
MD, in other words just Scott's usual fantasy made up horse manure. Liar liar his pants are on fire yet again
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I thought we already had a shared currency in which fiscal and monetary policy is decided in Westminster.0
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Victoria Steveley @vsteveley_utv 3m
PM David Cameron's just off the phone with First Minister Peter Robinson after announcing enquiry into OTR letters: http://www.u.tv/news/PM-launches-inquiry-into-OTR-letters/5ac17453-1af0-40c5-b004-509c6790a91d#.Uw9inJ0QOIc.twitter …
The announcement comes after DUP First Minister Peter Robinson gave Westminster an ultimate - respond to what he branded "a crisis" for Northern Ireland in 24 hours or he would resign.
The First Minister had said that he was not prepared to lead an administration which had been "kept in the dark" by Westminster governments, past and present.
Mr Robinson insists that he and his party were not aware that immunity letters had been issued, adding that he would not have entered into power-sharing with Sinn Féin if they known.
As well as a full enquiry, he has called for the letters to be rescinded.
Of the 187 on-the-run letters, 38 were issued since 2010 - when justice powers were devolved from Westminster to Stormont.
Sounds like Robinson has been talked down for the moment at least. Depends very much how this enquiry will look from now on.0 -
In this particular case, it looks as if we're talking about people deliberately using Yahoo as a videochat system (I guess that might include a few who left it on accidentally) - interestingly it also seems that GCHQ hadn't realised it would be used to multicast (porn, obviously - what else?). The hack would have been at Yahoo gateway level rather than machine/ISP level presumably.JosiasJessop said:
Or, given some of the software and hacks available, whether the targets knew their webcams were on ...Polruan said:Just catching up on today's wider news - has anyone else read through the details of GCHQ trawling webcam data in "bulk" (i.e. not based on target-specific intelligence)?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/27/gchq-nsa-webcam-images-internet-yahoo
I'm sure there are many strikingly concerning civil liberties issues in here, but it's worth pointing out that a) GCHQ appeared shocked how many "intimate images" were broadcast through video chat and b) they managed to reach the very precise conclusion that, at a 95% confidence level, 7.1% (+/- 3.7%) of images sent in yahoo video chat contained "undesirable nudity". Which has got to be worth knowing, although further clarification would be welcome on whether it was the subjects (rather than the mere fact) of the nudity that were undesirable.
I would guess that the next round of revelations is going to encompass experiments into crawling individual connections to identify cameras that could be activated remotely. That bit of insulation tape over the webcam seems a better and better idea...0 -
Yellow tories rejoice! Calamity Clegg is a hit. Well, sort of.
Daily_Express @Daily_Express 3h
Is this what all students think of Nick Clegg? Pupil appears to give rather rude salute http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/462100/Is-this-what-all-students-think-of-Nick-Clegg-Pupil-appears-to-give-rather-rude-salute … pic.twitter.com/Uk6dgCb3B50 -
What struck me reading the BBC report was the sheer one-eyed stupidity of SNP MP Angus MacNeil looking at the issue through the prism of his virulent anti Conservative bias :CarlottaVance said:Something else that would go with independence:
According to Whitehall sources, the Scottish government will get an "absolute veto" on the proposals.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15490249
"It is no secret that Tories in the south want to leave Scotland in darkness, but fixing the clocks to British summertime would mean that dawn wouldn't break in Scotland until nearly 9am,"
What a dullard.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPppIAnfigmalcolmg said:
Britain as a power, beaten at every turn by a few boys with towels on their heads. Iran took their i-pods and made their sailors cry, boo hoo we are powerful.CarlottaVance said:
Why are the SNP so relaxed about dancing to the Kremlin’s tune?malcolmg said:
The big crawler got sent packing with egg on his face. Putin just laughed at him.Socrates said:It's also worth pointing out that the source for Cameron asking Putin to "intervene" in Scotland was a Kremlin-run Russian news organization, without any evidence.
one can understand RT’s enthusiasm for Scottish independence: the break-up of the United Kingdom would undeniably be in the Russian national interest. Russia fears the projection of Western power; and Britain is far greater than the sum of its parts when it comes to an international presence. Divide and conquer is not simply a worn-out cliché.
What is surprising is that the Scottish Nationalists are so keen to dance to the former KGB man’s tune. Why else would senior SNP figures choose so repeatedly appear on RT?
http://www.leftfootforward.org/2014/02/why-are-the-snp-so-relaxed-about-dancing-to-the-kremlins-tune/
Meanwhile, why are the SNP happy to be Putin's 'useful idiots'?0 -
We could of course just have multiple timezones within the UK - lots of countries do. Having an hour's differnece between New York and Chicago doesn't seem to scare the horses. Maybe we could trial this across the UK but at the same time devolve a Scottish decision on whether or not to participate to Holyrood.JackW said:
What struck me reading the BBC report was the sheer one-eyed stupidity of SNP MP Angus MacNeil looking at the issue through the prism of his virulent anti Conservative bias :CarlottaVance said:Something else that would go with independence:
According to Whitehall sources, the Scottish government will get an "absolute veto" on the proposals.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15490249
"It is no secret that Tories in the south want to leave Scotland in darkness, but fixing the clocks to British summertime would mean that dawn wouldn't break in Scotland until nearly 9am,"
What a dullard.0 -
@JackW (and I'm also interested in the opinion of various Scottish contributors) - what was the McARSE projection for IndyRef turnout again?
I've partaken of the 3/1+ on betfair about 75% which seems cracking value on an existential question such as this. Perhaps even better is Hills' 4/6 over 66% [which might require a shop visit].0 -
Madam, I draw the line a you describing the SNP a "useful" !!CarlottaVance said:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPppIAnfigmalcolmg said:
Britain as a power, beaten at every turn by a few boys with towels on their heads. Iran took their i-pods and made their sailors cry, boo hoo we are powerful.CarlottaVance said:
Why are the SNP so relaxed about dancing to the Kremlin’s tune?malcolmg said:
The big crawler got sent packing with egg on his face. Putin just laughed at him.Socrates said:It's also worth pointing out that the source for Cameron asking Putin to "intervene" in Scotland was a Kremlin-run Russian news organization, without any evidence.
one can understand RT’s enthusiasm for Scottish independence: the break-up of the United Kingdom would undeniably be in the Russian national interest. Russia fears the projection of Western power; and Britain is far greater than the sum of its parts when it comes to an international presence. Divide and conquer is not simply a worn-out cliché.
What is surprising is that the Scottish Nationalists are so keen to dance to the former KGB man’s tune. Why else would senior SNP figures choose so repeatedly appear on RT?
http://www.leftfootforward.org/2014/02/why-are-the-snp-so-relaxed-about-dancing-to-the-kremlins-tune/
Meanwhile, why are the SNP happy to be Putin's 'useful idiots'?
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Whereas what struck me was a senile old codger who seemed completely unaware that this is far from a new move and was indeed proposed by a southern tory in a private members bill.JackW said:CarlottaVance said:Something else that would go with independence:
According to Whitehall sources, the Scottish government will get an "absolute veto" on the proposals.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15490249
"It is no secret that Tories in the south want to leave Scotland in darkness,
"The move is a response to the Daylight Savings Private Members' Bill put forward by Conservative MP Rebecca Harris."
It's also those campaigning on road safety for children and farmers who are at the forefront of opposing this you amusing old duffer.
Look up the facts instead of your arse next time "JackW".0 -
Fraser Nelson on Cameron & the EU:
Why David Cameron's 'Northern Alliance' may reshape Europe
If David Cameron were to divide Europe up, he’d make some crude distinctions. There would be the basket cases, like Italy, Spain, Greece, France — examples, by and large, of how countries should not be run. Then there’d be the former Soviet bloc, sceptical about Brussels because they recently escaped a remote, controlling bureaucracy and don’t want to repeat the experience. Then come the good guys, the people with whom he intends to reshape the continent: the Germans, the Dutch and the Scandis. This is the group that the Prime Minister has started referring to as his ‘Northern Alliance’.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9147391/camerons-northern-alliance/
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The Scottish Defence Force Fishery Patrol Vessels 'Paterson' and 'Drummond' will be easy prey for the Shetlanders, Malcolm.malcolmg said:
Britain as a power, beaten at every turn by a few boys with towels on their heads. Iran took their i-pods and made their sailors cry, boo hoo we are powerful.CarlottaVance said:
Why are the SNP so relaxed about dancing to the Kremlin’s tune?malcolmg said:
The big crawler got sent packing with egg on his face. Putin just laughed at him.Socrates said:It's also worth pointing out that the source for Cameron asking Putin to "intervene" in Scotland was a Kremlin-run Russian news organization, without any evidence.
one can understand RT’s enthusiasm for Scottish independence: the break-up of the United Kingdom would undeniably be in the Russian national interest. Russia fears the projection of Western power; and Britain is far greater than the sum of its parts when it comes to an international presence. Divide and conquer is not simply a worn-out cliché.
What is surprising is that the Scottish Nationalists are so keen to dance to the former KGB man’s tune. Why else would senior SNP figures choose so repeatedly appear on RT?
http://www.leftfootforward.org/2014/02/why-are-the-snp-so-relaxed-about-dancing-to-the-kremlins-tune/
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Chris Ship @chrisshipitv 3h
Merkel warns that change is a step by step approach. I suspect "step by step" might take little longer than Cameron's 2017 deadline
Luke Baker @LukeReuters 4h
Merkel burst Cameron's balloon: "Those who expect me to promise fundamental reforms of EU architecture for UK are in for a disappointment"0 -
Far too sensible Patrick.Patrick said:
We could of course just have multiple timezones within the UK - lots of countries do. Having an hour's differnece between New York and Chicago doesn't seem to scare the horses. Maybe we could trial this across the UK but at the same time devolve a Scottish decision on whether or not to participate to Holyrood.JackW said:
What struck me reading the BBC report was the sheer one-eyed stupidity of SNP MP Angus MacNeil looking at the issue through the prism of his virulent anti Conservative bias :CarlottaVance said:Something else that would go with independence:
According to Whitehall sources, the Scottish government will get an "absolute veto" on the proposals.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15490249
"It is no secret that Tories in the south want to leave Scotland in darkness, but fixing the clocks to British summertime would mean that dawn wouldn't break in Scotland until nearly 9am,"
What a dullard.
However there is the risk that the SNP will accuse southern Tories of syphoning off Scottish light an hour early - the scoundrels.
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Different Currency...Mick_Pork said:
Whereas what struck me was a senile old codger who seemed completely unaware that this is far from a new move and was indeed proposed by a southern tory in a private members bill.JackW said:CarlottaVance said:Something else that would go with independence:
According to Whitehall sources, the Scottish government will get an "absolute veto" on the proposals.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15490249
"It is no secret that Tories in the south want to leave Scotland in darkness,
Different Bond Rates.....
Different EU membership terms....
Different Time Zone.....
.......Why the heck not?
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CarlottaCarlottaVance said:
Why are the SNP so relaxed about dancing to the Kremlin’s tune?malcolmg said:
The big crawler got sent packing with egg on his face. Putin just laughed at him.Socrates said:It's also worth pointing out that the source for Cameron asking Putin to "intervene" in Scotland was a Kremlin-run Russian news organization, without any evidence.
one can understand RT’s enthusiasm for Scottish independence: the break-up of the United Kingdom would undeniably be in the Russian national interest. Russia fears the projection of Western power; and Britain is far greater than the sum of its parts when it comes to an international presence. Divide and conquer is not simply a worn-out cliché.
What is surprising is that the Scottish Nationalists are so keen to dance to the former KGB man’s tune. Why else would senior SNP figures choose so repeatedly appear on RT?
http://www.leftfootforward.org/2014/02/why-are-the-snp-so-relaxed-about-dancing-to-the-kremlins-tune/
Perhaps the Russian military jets which pinged Scotland's airspace so recently were not just challenging UK defences but on a mission to rescue Alex Salmond and rehouse him in a safe Moscow oblast sanatorium?
This explanation would fit in with the scorn poured by Nats on Cameron enlisting Putin's support for Scottish Independence. It may also explain why UK naval and air forces were so slow to intervene in the incident and challenge the invaders.
One to ponder further, methinks.0 -
That sounds like a gross violation of privacy.Polruan said:Just catching up on today's wider news - has anyone else read through the details of GCHQ trawling webcam data in "bulk" (i.e. not based on target-specific intelligence)?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/27/gchq-nsa-webcam-images-internet-yahoo
I'm sure there are many strikingly concerning civil liberties issues in here, but it's worth pointing out that a) GCHQ appeared shocked how many "intimate images" were broadcast through video chat and b) they managed to reach the very precise conclusion that, at a 95% confidence level, 7.1% (+/- 3.7%) of images sent in yahoo video chat contained "undesirable nudity". Which has got to be worth knowing, although further clarification would be welcome on whether it was the subjects (rather than the mere fact) of the nudity that were undesirable.0 -
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David Cameron's migration pledge 'in tatters', as figures reveal net immigration of 200,000 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-camerons-migration-pledge-in-tatters-as-figures-reveal-net-immigration-of-200000-9157334.html …
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