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From the Sunday papers that we have now got in the Observer reports that Tory MPs would block the prime minister if she sought to call a general election. This has been heavily hinted at since the Brexit votes were lost on Friday.
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Colour me shocked.0
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She is bonkers. An election would solve nothing.0
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I suspect the Queen won't block soft Brexit unless she fancies going the way of Charles I.0
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Sadly time for TM to go, and I have been loyal, but the loss of control demands a new interim leaderTheScreamingEagles said:Colour me shocked.
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Between parliament and the Tory party, plenty of stuff is NOT wanted.0
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The Self-VONC route is nearly as good. Normally a government wouldn't do that because it risks looking chaotic and ridiculous, but at this point who are we kidding.0
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The Cabinet wasn't close to collapse before?
A GE is a terrible, terrible idea. But when 170 Tories are now official no deal supporters, how does the government not collapse over any plan B options?
It's starting to really bum me out again - I really, really don't want a GE this year. Depressing stuff though - that so many Tories do not want one, which shows sense they don't normally have, is good, but most of the other options seem to lead down that way as well, even with the complexities of the process for triggering one.
Night all. All hail Letwin, and hope he pulls a rabbit from a hat.0 -
Threatening an election might scare her MPs into backing whatever her alternative agenda is.AnotherEngineer said:She is bonkers. An election would solve nothing.
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But it risks a GONU being appointed in those 14 days.edmundintokyo said:The Self-VONC route is nearly as good. Normally a government wouldn't do that because it risks looking chaotic and ridiculous, but at this point who are we kidding.
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Her Majesty clearly about to crash through the walls of Downing Street and mow those fuckers downTheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
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Who? And what control would they have?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly time for TM to go, and I have been loyal, but the loss of control demands a new interim leaderTheScreamingEagles said:Colour me shocked.
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Brexit is a terrible idea but people still voted for it.kle4 said:The Cabinet wasn't close to collapse before?
A GE is a terrible, terrible idea. But when 170 Tories are now official no deal supporters, how does the government not collapse over any plan B options?
It's starting to really bum me out again - I really, really don't want a GE this year. Depressing stuff though - that so many Tories do not want one, which shows sense they don't normally have, is good, but most of the other options seem to lead down that way as well, even with the complexities of the process for triggering one.
Night all. All hail Letwin, and hope he pulls a rabbit from a hat.0 -
On the unrelated topic of grass seed and pheasants - thank you for the advice, but netting is not an option unless I want to do something more tedious than Brexit.; I have 2/3 acre garden and about 50 - 100 patches seeded. I'll be out there until we leave the EU.0
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Well there's some who are saying she should refuse to give Royal Assent to a soft Brexit.edmundintokyo said:
Her Majesty clearly about to crash through the walls of Downing Street and mow those fuckers downTheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
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Don't remind me. And I know, that's why I still expect a GE even though it is a terrible idea.TheScreamingEagles said:
Brexit is a terrible idea but people still voted for it.kle4 said:The Cabinet wasn't close to collapse before?
A GE is a terrible, terrible idea. But when 170 Tories are now official no deal supporters, how does the government not collapse over any plan B options?
It's starting to really bum me out again - I really, really don't want a GE this year. Depressing stuff though - that so many Tories do not want one, which shows sense they don't normally have, is good, but most of the other options seem to lead down that way as well, even with the complexities of the process for triggering one.
Night all. All hail Letwin, and hope he pulls a rabbit from a hat.0 -
True.TheScreamingEagles said:
But it risks a GONU being appointed in those 14 days.edmundintokyo said:The Self-VONC route is nearly as good. Normally a government wouldn't do that because it risks looking chaotic and ridiculous, but at this point who are we kidding.
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Banzai!williamglenn said:
Threatening an election might scare her MPs into backing whatever her alternative agenda is.AnotherEngineer said:She is bonkers. An election would solve nothing.
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ahemwilliamglenn said:her alternative agenda
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No idea but TM calling an election is the worst idea possible and would turn me against herkle4 said:
Who? And what control would they have?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly time for TM to go, and I have been loyal, but the loss of control demands a new interim leaderTheScreamingEagles said:Colour me shocked.
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May could put forward "Labour's alternative Brexit" at this point, and Corbyn would still whip against !0
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Yeah the Tory party is fucked.
Good people like Thatcher, Major, and Cameron tried to sort out the European question and failed.0 -
Sign me on AmberScott_P said:0 -
Difficult to see another VONC being seen off unless May resigns. She hasn’t got time to put her abysmal deal to Parliament a 4th time unless she wants her legacy to be a Corbyn Gov which renders Britain into another Venezuela.0
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This Deltapoll is full of interesting firsts.Foxy said:
Revoke now more popular than a #peoplesvoteScott_P said:
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1112116959599099904?s=19
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But the lying liars said it was a wonderful idea and the people believed them. Special place in hell indeed.TheScreamingEagles said:
Brexit is a terrible idea but people still voted for it.kle4 said:The Cabinet wasn't close to collapse before?
A GE is a terrible, terrible idea. But when 170 Tories are now official no deal supporters, how does the government not collapse over any plan B options?
It's starting to really bum me out again - I really, really don't want a GE this year. Depressing stuff though - that so many Tories do not want one, which shows sense they don't normally have, is good, but most of the other options seem to lead down that way as well, even with the complexities of the process for triggering one.
Night all. All hail Letwin, and hope he pulls a rabbit from a hat.0 -
May just won’t stop until she brings the whole edifice down. It’s quite, quite mad.0
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Hire a falconer for the afternoonkjh said:On the unrelated topic of grass seed and pheasants - thank you for the advice, but netting is not an option unless I want to do something more tedious than Brexit.; I have 2/3 acre garden and about 50 - 100 patches seeded. I'll be out there until we leave the EU.
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Ha Ha HaBig_G_NorthWales said:
No idea but TM calling an election is the worst idea possible and would turn me against herkle4 said:
Who? And what control would they have?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly time for TM to go, and I have been loyal, but the loss of control demands a new interim leaderTheScreamingEagles said:Colour me shocked.
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April Fools' Day isn't until Monday.Scott_P said:0 -
Christ on a unicycle. Just when you think things can't get any madder...Scott_P said:0 -
I’m sorry? The Government would advise he Queen to veto a bill passed by the legislature? Seriously? What “abuse of constitutional procedures” could possibly warrant that? Does May really think that not getting her way is unconstitutional?TheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
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And how richly appropriate that that's now looking like it may be the most decisive day for Brexit so far.TheScreamingEagles said:
April Fools' Day isn't until Monday.Scott_P said:0 -
Too late for the Queenedmundintokyo said:
Her Majesty clearly about to crash through the walls of Downing Street and mow those fuckers downTheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/1112115699726585856
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I'm confident of little, despite my professions of certainty which are more just gut reactions. But one thing I feel very confident in is that Her Majesty would not do such a thing. And if she ever did, expect the next government to create a rule that royal assent cannot, in practice, be denied. That never wrong resource wiki says such a thing occurs in Belgium. I know the reason here is about the gov advising her not to sign, but that's not a farce, that's madness.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well there's some who are saying she should refuse to give Royal Assent to a soft Brexit.edmundintokyo said:
Her Majesty clearly about to crash through the walls of Downing Street and mow those fuckers downTheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/11121156997265858560 -
The appalling polls tonight will hopefully bring some element of realism to even the PCP, who have lost the plot in a truly epic way. Unfortunately most of the more frothing elements have what in normal times would be safe seats.
The idea of May fighting another campaign makes a no deal Brexit look good and the consequences would be far more serious as Corbyn swept into Number 10.0 -
Astonishing result from the Deltapoll .
41% support revoking Article 50 . This I suspect wouldn’t have made 20% last year . This is a reaction to the no deal ERG pushing this narrative and turning Remainers into a more polarized position .
I couldn’t support revocation as a Remainer , it would cause huge problems . A vote that started with the people can only be changed with another vote by the people .
I’m very troubled by that poll result . The country has gone mad . I really fear the worst .0 -
Counting chickens is never a good look BJObigjohnowls said:
Too late for the Queenedmundintokyo said:
Her Majesty clearly about to crash through the walls of Downing Street and mow those fuckers downTheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/1112115699726585856
Corbyn has Check Mated The Tories
Labour ex toxic Corbyn would be out of sight0 -
You think she's driving towards them? I think in that photo she's halfway to the Chunnel and out the country as it burns behind heredmundintokyo said:
Her Majesty clearly about to crash through the walls of Downing Street and mow those fuckers downTheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
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How did Thatcher try to sort it out? She injected the poison by the way she reacted to her political demise.TheScreamingEagles said:Yeah the Tory party is fucked.
Good people like Thatcher, Major, and Cameron tried to sort out the European question and failed.0 -
I had lunch with a Tory grandee today. He was surprisingly positive about May (although felt she thought in the same way as the Eurocrats which is why none of them understood why the proposed deal was so unpopular)TheScreamingEagles said:Yeah the Tory party is fucked.
Good people like Thatcher, Major, and Cameron tried to sort out the European question and failed.
What really startled me was how negative he was about Cameron - said the problem with OEs was the 80/20 rule applied and Cameron was definitely in the 20!
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May's plan is to put her Deal against whatever wins the indicative votes on Monday ie probably permanent Customs Union plus maybe SM too or EU Ref2 in a final run off where MPs decide what Brexit they want. Corbyn will probably not get a majority even if he becomes PMAmpfieldAndy said:Difficult to see another VONC being seen off unless May resigns. She hasn’t got time to put her abysmal deal to Parliament a 4th time unless she wants her legacy to be a Corbyn Gov which renders Britain into another Venezuela.
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That may happen if she blocked Brexit too, the Queen will stay well out of it and leave MPs to decideTheScreamingEagles said:I suspect the Queen won't block soft Brexit unless she fancies going the way of Charles I.
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"May plot to block boris"
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Who is going to introduce the legislation?DougSeal said:
I’m sorry? The Government would advise he Queen to veto a bill passed by the legislature? Seriously? What “abuse of constitutional procedures” could possibly warrant that? Does May really think that not getting her way is unconstitutional?TheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/11121156997265858560 -
That and the 41% to 40% for revoke is a recipe for civil war not clarity No Deal also only on a 7% deficitTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Talk is of an election to stave off cabinet collapse / no deal. Surely the morelikely scenario is that the cabinet collapses, we have no deal and THEN a general election?0
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Which leads to Corbyn and SNP BINO SM and CURochdalePioneers said:Talk is of an election to stave off cabinet collapse / no deal. Surely the morelikely scenario is that the cabinet collapses, we have no deal and THEN a general election?
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Exactly .HYUFD said:
That and the 41% to 40% for revoke is a recipe for civil war not clarityTheScreamingEagles said:
The second vote I understand but the revocation as a Remainer shocks me . I could only support a second EU ref not revocation.
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Raab The Karate Kid !Scott_P said:0 -
Any MP, or indeed peer, can introduce a bill into Parliament. It would be unusual for such important legislation to be introduced as a private members bill but hardly unconstitutional.Charles said:
Who is going to introduce the legislation?DougSeal said:
I’m sorry? The Government would advise he Queen to veto a bill passed by the legislature? Seriously? What “abuse of constitutional procedures” could possibly warrant that? Does May really think that not getting her way is unconstitutional?TheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
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Very good. I'm chuckling as I type with that vision in my mind of him chasing the birds around my garden.Charles said:
Hire a falconer for the afternoonkjh said:On the unrelated topic of grass seed and pheasants - thank you for the advice, but netting is not an option unless I want to do something more tedious than Brexit.; I have 2/3 acre garden and about 50 - 100 patches seeded. I'll be out there until we leave the EU.
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Not counting ChikensBig_G_NorthWales said:
Counting chickens is never a good look BJObigjohnowls said:
Too late for the Queenedmundintokyo said:
Her Majesty clearly about to crash through the walls of Downing Street and mow those fuckers downTheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/1112115699726585856
Corbyn has Check Mated The Tories
Labour ex toxic Corbyn would be out of sight
You need a Plan B instead of supporting BLUKIP though0 -
So...is that telling the ERG holdouts to vote for the deal? Because that delivers Brexit.Scott_P said:0 -
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I have been pointing this problem out. Theresa May is threatening a paper tiger.0
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More than likely that Corbyn will get an absolute majority. And it will be the Tories which will have made that possible by their stupid destructive and pig-ignorant behaviour.HYUFD said:
Which leads to Corbyn and SNP BINO SM and CURochdalePioneers said:Talk is of an election to stave off cabinet collapse / no deal. Surely the morelikely scenario is that the cabinet collapses, we have no deal and THEN a general election?
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There is not the slightest chance of the Queen using a power last used by Queen Anne. The government has gone doolally if it imagines otherwise.DougSeal said:
I’m sorry? The Government would advise he Queen to veto a bill passed by the legislature? Seriously? What “abuse of constitutional procedures” could possibly warrant that? Does May really think that not getting her way is unconstitutional?TheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/11121156997265858560 -
I have never supported ERG and if you follow my posts you will see I have condemned them unequivocallybigjohnowls said:
Not counting ChikensBig_G_NorthWales said:
Counting chickens is never a good look BJObigjohnowls said:
Too late for the Queenedmundintokyo said:
Her Majesty clearly about to crash through the walls of Downing Street and mow those fuckers downTheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/1112115699726585856
Corbyn has Check Mated The Tories
Labour ex toxic Corbyn would be out of sight
You need a Plan B instead of supporting BLUKIP though
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Haven’t they been in permanent state of near-collapse for the past six months or so?TheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
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Things fall apart ...0
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Mail poll is Lab 41, Con 36, UKIP 7, LD 7, others 9. The others must include some TIGers and Greens who, like UKIP, are unlikely to stand everywhere, so it probably evens out. Boris well ahead on best next leader.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/mailonsunday/index.html0 -
Eagles
A gnu ridden by PM Ken Clarke is the way forward.0 -
I'm sure Grieve is drafting something as we speak....DougSeal said:
Any MP, or indeed peer, can introduce a bill into Parliament. It would be unusual for such important legislation to be introduced as a private members bill but hardly unconstitutional.Charles said:
Who is going to introduce the legislation?DougSeal said:
I’m sorry? The Government would advise he Queen to veto a bill passed by the legislature? Seriously? What “abuse of constitutional procedures” could possibly warrant that? Does May really think that not getting her way is unconstitutional?TheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
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kle4 said:
So...is that telling the ERG holdouts to vote for the deal? Because that delivers Brexit.Scott_P said:
Sadly, it isn't. You and I might think that the way to get Brexit is to vote for Brexit, but for others, the way to get Brexit is to vote against it.kle4 said:
So...is that telling the ERG holdouts to vote for the deal? Because that delivers Brexit.Scott_P said:0 -
If May cannot get her Brexit Deal through the Commons and the Commons votes for soft Brexit instead constitutionally I expect the Queen would have no choice but to tell Mrs May sorry, you clearly no longer have the confidence of Parliament and I will have to ask Mr Corbyn to see if he can form a government with the SNP, the DUP and the LDs which does have the confidence of Parliament and can implement the soft Brexit it has voted for if there is no majority for a general election eitherAlastairMeeks said:
There is not the slightest chance of the Queen using a power last used by Queen Anne. The government has gone doolally if it imagines otherwise.DougSeal said:
I’m sorry? The Government would advise he Queen to veto a bill passed by the legislature? Seriously? What “abuse of constitutional procedures” could possibly warrant that? Does May really think that not getting her way is unconstitutional?TheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
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The monarch is constitutionally powerless - and rightly so. The story is risible.0
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She is not theoretically powerless (even if ever making it non theoretical again would be pointless and immediately lead to explicit powerlessness). But the story is still absurd, and I hope no one seriously contemplated that route._Anazina_ said:The monarch is constitutionally powerless - and rightly so. The story is risible.
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No, Corbyn will not get an absolute majority, even on tonight's Deltapoll he still falls short. If Corbyn becomes PM it will be with SNP or LD supportCyclefree said:
More than likely that Corbyn will get an absolute majority. And it will be the Tories which will have made that possible by their stupid destructive and pig-ignorant behaviour.HYUFD said:
Which leads to Corbyn and SNP BINO SM and CURochdalePioneers said:Talk is of an election to stave off cabinet collapse / no deal. Surely the morelikely scenario is that the cabinet collapses, we have no deal and THEN a general election?
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Although admittedly you are setting an extremely low bar thereWhisperingOracle said:
And how richly appropriate that that's now looking like it may be the most decisive day for Brexit so far.TheScreamingEagles said:
April Fools' Day isn't until Monday.Scott_P said:0 -
Corbyn as PM pursuing SM and CU BINO, Boris as Leader of the Opposition on a hard Brexit platform is the only way this can be resolved as far as I can seeNickPalmer said:Mail poll is Lab 41, Con 36, UKIP 7, LD 7, others 9. The others must include some TIGers and Greens who, like UKIP, are unlikely to stand everywhere, so it probably evens out. Boris well ahead on best next leader.
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With respect that is utter rubbish. No confidence comes from the HOC, no one elseHYUFD said:
If May cannot get her Brexit Deal through the Commons and the Commons votes for soft Brexit instead constitutionally I expect the Queen would have no choice but to tell Mrs May sorry, you clearly no longer have the confidence of Parliament and I will have to ask Mr Corbyn to see if he can form a government with the SNP, the DUP and the LDs which does have the confidence of Parliament and can implement the soft Brexit it has voted for if there is no majority for a general election eitherAlastairMeeks said:
There is not the slightest chance of the Queen using a power last used by Queen Anne. The government has gone doolally if it imagines otherwise.DougSeal said:
I’m sorry? The Government would advise he Queen to veto a bill passed by the legislature? Seriously? What “abuse of constitutional procedures” could possibly warrant that? Does May really think that not getting her way is unconstitutional?TheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/1112115699726585856
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Unfortunately your Party is now Maj BLUKIPBig_G_NorthWales said:
I have never supported ERG and if you follow my posts you will see I have condemned them unequivocallybigjohnowls said:
Not counting ChikensBig_G_NorthWales said:
Counting chickens is never a good look BJObigjohnowls said:
Too late for the Queenedmundintokyo said:
Her Majesty clearly about to crash through the walls of Downing Street and mow those fuckers downTheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/1112115699726585856
Corbyn has Check Mated The Tories
Labour ex toxic Corbyn would be out of sight
You need a Plan B instead of supporting BLUKIP though
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Can anyone clarify is the permanent customs union being voted on “the” customs union or “a” customs union?0
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This is the version with chuk:NickPalmer said:Mail poll is Lab 41, Con 36, UKIP 7, LD 7, others 9. The others must include some TIGers and Greens who, like UKIP, are unlikely to stand everywhere, so it probably evens out. Boris well ahead on best next leader.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/mailonsunday/index.html
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Parliament taking control of the timetable to allow for the introduction of legislation (which is what would be needed) would be a constitutional disasterDougSeal said:
Any MP, or indeed peer, can introduce a bill into Parliament. It would be unusual for such important legislation to be introduced as a private members bill but hardly unconstitutional.Charles said:
Who is going to introduce the legislation?DougSeal said:
I’m sorry? The Government would advise he Queen to veto a bill passed by the legislature? Seriously? What “abuse of constitutional procedures” could possibly warrant that? Does May really think that not getting her way is unconstitutional?TheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
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CHUK could have a female Prime Minister before Labour.Foxy said:
This is the version with chuk:NickPalmer said:Mail poll is Lab 41, Con 36, UKIP 7, LD 7, others 9. The others must include some TIGers and Greens who, like UKIP, are unlikely to stand everywhere, so it probably evens out. Boris well ahead on best next leader.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/mailonsunday/index.html
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Less than 30 are ultras, the rest either accept the deal or want to remainbigjohnowls said:
Unfortunately your Party is now Maj BLUKIPBig_G_NorthWales said:
I have never supported ERG and if you follow my posts you will see I have condemned them unequivocallybigjohnowls said:
Not counting ChikensBig_G_NorthWales said:
Counting chickens is never a good look BJObigjohnowls said:
Too late for the Queenedmundintokyo said:
Her Majesty clearly about to crash through the walls of Downing Street and mow those fuckers downTheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/1112115699726585856
Corbyn has Check Mated The Tories
Labour ex toxic Corbyn would be out of sight
You need a Plan B instead of supporting BLUKIP though
I am a one nation conservative and support the new grouping in my party
It is a problem but no more so than the hard left running the labour party
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It can not be The Customs Union because the EU treaties are clear that only EU members can be a member of "The".kjohnw said:Can anyone clarify is the permanent customs union being voted on “the” customs union or “a” customs union?
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Nah, it is our equivalent of the 25th ammendment, in use because May has lost her marbles.Charles said:
Parliament taking control of the timetable to allow for the introduction of legislation (which is what would be needed) would be a constitutional disasterDougSeal said:
Any MP, or indeed peer, can introduce a bill into Parliament. It would be unusual for such important legislation to be introduced as a private members bill but hardly unconstitutional.Charles said:
Who is going to introduce the legislation?DougSeal said:
I’m sorry? The Government would advise he Queen to veto a bill passed by the legislature? Seriously? What “abuse of constitutional procedures” could possibly warrant that? Does May really think that not getting her way is unconstitutional?TheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
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That -11 figure for the Tories looks catastrophic whichever way you look at it.Foxy said:
This is the version with chuk:NickPalmer said:Mail poll is Lab 41, Con 36, UKIP 7, LD 7, others 9. The others must include some TIGers and Greens who, like UKIP, are unlikely to stand everywhere, so it probably evens out. Boris well ahead on best next leader.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/mailonsunday/index.html
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/11121075124787363850 -
I know that the Brexistential Crisis is very serious, but to see the Tories on the brink of disintegration is very, very entertaining.
Shit on, you bunch of feckers.0 -
If the Commons votes through a policy which the government cannot countenance, then the government should either resign, or dare the Commons to put forward a VONC.AlastairMeeks said:
There is not the slightest chance of the Queen using a power last used by Queen Anne. The government has gone doolally if it imagines otherwise.DougSeal said:
I’m sorry? The Government would advise he Queen to veto a bill passed by the legislature? Seriously? What “abuse of constitutional procedures” could possibly warrant that? Does May really think that not getting her way is unconstitutional?TheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
https://twitter.com/BBCHelenaLee/status/11121156997265858560 -
So what is being proposed is to allow third parties to have tariff free access to our markets but with us having no reciprocal rights , which makes the EU more competitive than us globally.great plan that, thick mp’sralphmalph said:
It can not be The Customs Union because the EU treaties are clear that only EU members can be a member of "The".kjohnw said:Can anyone clarify is the permanent customs union being voted on “the” customs union or “a” customs union?
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That very much depends on the fate wot you wish on the Tories! I appreciate that you are one of the sane ones, but I would wet myself laughing>WhisperingOracle said:
That -11 figure for the Tories looks catastrophic whichever way you look at it.Foxy said:
This is the version with chuk:NickPalmer said:Mail poll is Lab 41, Con 36, UKIP 7, LD 7, others 9. The others must include some TIGers and Greens who, like UKIP, are unlikely to stand everywhere, so it probably evens out. Boris well ahead on best next leader.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/mailonsunday/index.html
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What needs to happen is May picks an alternative plan that isn't endlessly fucking about trying to get her deal passed for a 4th time. Pick something, anything else. All other options will result in resignations from her government and party splits, but, tough. They will all change the dynamic of the situation somehow and then we can begin to move forward into some new space.0
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Labour is no more unitedSandyRentool said:I know that the Brexistential Crisis is very serious, but to see the Tories on the brink of disintegration is very, very entertaining.
Shit on, you bunch of feckers.0 -
170 want to leave with No Deal. I'd call all of them ultras.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Less than 30 are ultras, the rest either accept the deal or want to remainbigjohnowls said:
Unfortunately your Party is now Maj BLUKIPBig_G_NorthWales said:
I have never supported ERG and if you follow my posts you will see I have condemned them unequivocallybigjohnowls said:
Not counting ChikensBig_G_NorthWales said:
Counting chickens is never a good look BJObigjohnowls said:
Too late for the Queenedmundintokyo said:
Her Majesty clearly about to crash through the walls of Downing Street and mow those fuckers downTheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
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Corbyn has Check Mated The Tories
Labour ex toxic Corbyn would be out of sight
You need a Plan B instead of supporting BLUKIP though
I am a one nation conservative and support the new grouping in my party
It is a problem but no more so than the hard left running the labour party0 -
Yes, clearly not as good as Revoke.kjohnw said:
So what is being proposed is to allow third parties to have tariff free access to our markets but with us having no reciprocal rights , which makes the EU more competitive than us globally.great plan that, thick mp’sralphmalph said:
It can not be The Customs Union because the EU treaties are clear that only EU members can be a member of "The".kjohnw said:Can anyone clarify is the permanent customs union being voted on “the” customs union or “a” customs union?
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No she hasn’t. She’s right that there are only 3 options and everything else is fantasy. She’s just inflexible in her tacticsFoxy said:
Nah, it is our equivalent of the 25th ammendment, in use because May has lost her marbles.Charles said:
Parliament taking control of the timetable to allow for the introduction of legislation (which is what would be needed) would be a constitutional disasterDougSeal said:
Any MP, or indeed peer, can introduce a bill into Parliament. It would be unusual for such important legislation to be introduced as a private members bill but hardly unconstitutional.Charles said:
Who is going to introduce the legislation?DougSeal said:
I’m sorry? The Government would advise he Queen to veto a bill passed by the legislature? Seriously? What “abuse of constitutional procedures” could possibly warrant that? Does May really think that not getting her way is unconstitutional?TheScreamingEagles said:The Sunday Times front page, just wow.
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