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What did he want to do, nationalise Waitrose? Put a tax on the word 'tax?NickPalmer said:
Chris is an outrider who resigned from the Shadow Cabinet because he wanted to pursue more left-wing ideas than Corbyn and McDonnell were comfortable with. He can't really be shut up, and of course he makes an interesting interviewee, always up for an aggressive quote, so gets invited a lot. Quiet loyalists, not so much.Roger said:I know Nick thinks Corbyn is a nice person and he's known him for many years.
But if that's the case why is he allowing the likes of Chris Williamson to speak on his and Labour's behalf?
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Actually he is entirely wrong. Yugoslavia under Tito was semi-detached from the USSR.HYUFD said:
I have never been Hunt's greatest fan but he is not entirely wrong, Yugoslavia (containing Slovenia) was part of the Eastern block until it joined the non aligned pact in 1961williamglenn said:0 -
That's May's lodestar. Moreover I think the numbers would be similar for May's deal versus Revoke. I also think No Deal beats Revoke - in the country that is. If only Parliament reflected the country.HYUFD said:
Given a choice between May's Deal and No Deal, 62% prefer May's Deal to 38% who prefer No Dealwilliamglenn said:Wales second referendum poll:
Remain: 55%
Leave: 45%
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2019-02-22/polls-shows-welsh-voters-prefer-mays-brexit-deal-to-leaving-eu-without-a-deal/
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This is the best story of the day: http://www.madnesshub.com/2019/02/youngest-person-to-ever-build-nuclear.html0
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Never heard of him.....Foxy said:
Good Lord, why were we not told!felix said:
I didn't know Charlie Falconer had ever resognedScott_P said:How long before he resigns...
https://twitter.com/michaelsavage/status/10990452988344197140 -
The second ODI nicely poised against the WI0
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Lets hope he does not have too much of a blast using it!Drutt said:This is the best story of the day: http://www.madnesshub.com/2019/02/youngest-person-to-ever-build-nuclear.html
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Brilliant, that worked - thanks!Mortimer said:
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The process needs to be taken over not from the "hard Brexit zealots", but those Dreamainers who are in the House in far greater numbers than the ERG.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Not on the deal so far but hopeful next week the HOC takes over the process from the hard brexit zealotsBenpointer said:Is the big vote next week on Wednesday?
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In the immediate post war years Yugoslavia was linked to the USSR though it joined the non aligned movement in 1961 and can hardly be called a 'Soviet vassal state'Richard_Nabavi said:
Actually he is entirely wrong. Yugoslavia under Tito was semi-detached from the USSR.HYUFD said:
I have never been Hunt's greatest fan but he is not entirely wrong, Yugoslavia (containing Slovenia) was part of the Eastern block until it joined the non aligned pact in 1961williamglenn said:0 -
It made my day when OGH shared that nugget on here last year!Richard_Nabavi said:
Brilliant, that worked - thanks!Mortimer said:
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Is Shameful Shami handing her peerage back? Considering such an appointment would make it clear her investigation was a whitewash (as if we didn't know that already...)?RobD said:
Hereditary dukedom coming his way.IanB2 said:Labour seeks to stem antisemitism crisis...
Party in advanced talks with Lord Falconer to appoint him to review its handling of antisemitism and other complaints
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Run that one past us again... how do the numbers work if the Dreamainers (AKA as 'the sane') are much more numerous?MarqueeMark said:
The process needs to be taken over not from the "hard Brexit zealots", but those Dreamainers who are in the House in far greater numbers than the ERG.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Not on the deal so far but hopeful next week the HOC takes over the process from the hard brexit zealotsBenpointer said:Is the big vote next week on Wednesday?
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Zealotry has acquired a bad name since I sang in the choir of St Simon Zelotes.0
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"linked to" the USSR but not "a vassal state of"!!HYUFD said:
In the immediate post war years Yugoslavia was linked to the USSR though it joined the non aligned movement in 1961 and can hardly be called a 'Soviet vassal state'Richard_Nabavi said:
Actually he is entirely wrong. Yugoslavia under Tito was semi-detached from the USSR.HYUFD said:
I have never been Hunt's greatest fan but he is not entirely wrong, Yugoslavia (containing Slovenia) was part of the Eastern block until it joined the non aligned pact in 1961williamglenn said:0 -
On the Wales poll Remain gets to 55% v Leave but May's Deal gets to 62% v No Dealgeoffw said:
That's May's lodestar. Moreover I think the numbers would be similar for May's deal versus Revoke. I also think No Deal beats Revoke - in the country that is. If only Parliament reflected the country.HYUFD said:
Given a choice between May's Deal and No Deal, 62% prefer May's Deal to 38% who prefer No Dealwilliamglenn said:Wales second referendum poll:
Remain: 55%
Leave: 45%
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2019-02-22/polls-shows-welsh-voters-prefer-mays-brexit-deal-to-leaving-eu-without-a-deal/0 -
Which is what I said.TheWhiteRabbit said:
"linked to" the USSR but not "a vassal state of"!!HYUFD said:
In the immediate post war years Yugoslavia was linked to the USSR though it joined the non aligned movement in 1961 and can hardly be called a 'Soviet vassal state'Richard_Nabavi said:
Actually he is entirely wrong. Yugoslavia under Tito was semi-detached from the USSR.HYUFD said:
I have never been Hunt's greatest fan but he is not entirely wrong, Yugoslavia (containing Slovenia) was part of the Eastern block until it joined the non aligned pact in 1961williamglenn said:
I think Hunt's leadership chances are about as strong as his grasp of Slovenian history tonight0 -
"Can you give me an example of when you've had to think on your feet under pressure?"
"Well..."
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It was in, no way, a 'vassal state' hence Tito's message to Stalin: "Stop sending men to kill me or I'll send one to Moscow and I won't have to send a second."HYUFD said:
I have never been Hunt's greatest fan but he is not entirely wrong, Yugoslavia (containing Slovenia) was part of the Eastern block and aligned with the Soviet Union in the immediate post war period until it joined the non aligned movement in 1961.williamglenn said:
Nonetheless Hunt's statement was not a fully accurate one and as Foreign Secretary he should have done more research before potentially insulting his hosts in this way.
Rat Eyes has fucked the job up.0 -
Not a solution available to a ravenous OGH ....Freggles said:"Can you give me an example of when you've had to think on your feet under pressure?"
"Well..."
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Good to see you explaining the historyDura_Ace said:
It was in, no way, a 'vassal state' hence Tito's message to Stalin: "Stop sending men to kill me or I'll send one to Moscow and I won't have to send a second."HYUFD said:
I have never been Hunt's greatest fan but he is not entirely wrong, Yugoslavia (containing Slovenia) was part of the Eastern block and aligned with the Soviet Union in the immediate post war period until it joined the non aligned movement in 1961.williamglenn said:
Nonetheless Hunt's statement was not a fully accurate one and as Foreign Secretary he should have done more research before potentially insulting his hosts in this way.
Rat Eyes has fucked the job up.
While I do not express myself quite as you do, Hunt has lost the plot recently, along with Grayling and Williamson0 -
Just out of interest, how do you rate Boris Johnsons chances of leadership?HYUFD said:
Which is what I said.TheWhiteRabbit said:
"linked to" the USSR but not "a vassal state of"!!HYUFD said:
In the immediate post war years Yugoslavia was linked to the USSR though it joined the non aligned movement in 1961 and can hardly be called a 'Soviet vassal state'Richard_Nabavi said:
Actually he is entirely wrong. Yugoslavia under Tito was semi-detached from the USSR.HYUFD said:
I have never been Hunt's greatest fan but he is not entirely wrong, Yugoslavia (containing Slovenia) was part of the Eastern block until it joined the non aligned pact in 1961williamglenn said:
I think Hunt's leadership chances are about as strong as his grasp of Slovenian history tonight0 -
Anyone watch it, what did he say?Scott_P said:0 -
https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1099073045870886913Floater said:Anyone watch it, what did he say?
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words I never thought I would say....Scrapheap_as_was said:The fight for purity just got real
https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1099066171301744642?s=19
" Go Tom!!"0 -
CheersScott_P said:
https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1099073045870886913Floater said:Anyone watch it, what did he say?
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*More* left wing than Corbyn and McDonnell?NickPalmer said:
Chris is an outrider who resigned from the Shadow Cabinet because he wanted to pursue more left-wing ideas than Corbyn and McDonnell were comfortable with. He can't really be shut up, and of course he makes an interesting interviewee, always up for an aggressive quote, so gets invited a lot. Quiet loyalists, not so much.Roger said:I know Nick thinks Corbyn is a nice person and he's known him for many years.
But if that's the case why is he allowing the likes of Chris Williamson to speak on his and Labour's behalf?
it makes the party look like a bunch of thugs.
Jesus fucking Christ.0 -
You don't mean go Tom do you !!!!! I assume you mean just leave and hang Corbyn out to dryFloater said:
words I never thought I would say....Scrapheap_as_was said:The fight for purity just got real
https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1099066171301744642?s=19
" Go Tom!!"0 -
On the contrary, his comb would at least be clean.JackW said:
Not a solution available to a ravenous OGH ....Freggles said:"Can you give me an example of when you've had to think on your feet under pressure?"
"Well..."
https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1099027888022667264?s=19
PS Great to see you back here. Are you going to explain it all to us?0 -
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Theresa May, they tell me (in a couple of cases actually shouting) is the Death Star of modern British politics. She’s the theory of anti-matter, made flesh. She’s a political black hole because nothing, not even light, can escape. Ideas, beliefs, suggestions, objections, inquiries, proposals, projects, loyalties, affections, trust, whole careers, real men and women, are sucked into the awful void that is Downing Street — and nothing ever comes out: no answers, only a blank so blank that it screams. Reputations (they lament) are staked on her, and lost. Warnings are delivered to her, and ignored. Plans are run by her, unacknowledged. Messages are sent to her, unanswered. She has become the unperson of Downing Street: the living embodiment of the closed door.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f017be7e-36bc-11e9-a129-05a1d4d7c2a20 -
Ian Austin's giving it plenty on Newsnight.0
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That was an absolutely damning piece.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Ian Austin's giving it plenty on Newsnight.
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England in trouble now.0
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What comb ?!? ..Richard_Nabavi said:
On the contrary, his comb would at least be clean.JackW said:
Not a solution available to a ravenous OGH ....Freggles said:"Can you give me an example of when you've had to think on your feet under pressure?"
"Well..."
https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1099027888022667264?s=19
PS Great to see you back here. Are you going to explain it all to us?
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Curran is in, on past performance it will be won with overs to spare.DavidL said:England in trouble now.
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The comments under the tweet from Newsnight about it are 50% Corbyn dudebros saying 'Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out/Bet your Dad was a Tory'.Mortimer said:
That was an absolutely damning piece.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Ian Austin's giving it plenty on Newsnight.
Thought Ian Austin did well. I disagree with his Brexit stance, but I respect his position on this 100%.0 -
The EMA has lost its claim in Canary Wharf over that office it will no longer be able to use.
Unsurprisingly the court found there is nothing in law prohibiting its location in the UK. Likewise, the EMA is not prohibited legally from paying rent under the lease after Brexit, which was fatal for its claim.
Slightly more surprisingly, the court also held that even if it were illegal for the EMA to fulfil its lease obligations post-Brexit, illegality under foreign law (here EU law) was not relevant to his decision.0 -
Is that last bit surprising? IANAL, but to subject English contract law to the whims of foreign jurisdictions would be somewhat more surprising.....TheWhiteRabbit said:The EMA has lost its claim in Canary Wharf over that office it will no longer be able to use.
Unsurprisingly the court found there is nothing in law prohibiting its location in the UK. Likewise, the EMA is not prohibited legally from paying rent under the lease after Brexit, which was fatal for its claim.
Slightly more surprisingly, the court also held that even if it were illegal for the EMA to fulfil its lease obligations post-Brexit, illegality under foreign law (here EU law) was not relevant to his decision.0 -
That was one of the most ridiculous decisions I’ve seen for a while.ralphmalph said:
Curran is in, on past performance it will be won with overs to spare.DavidL said:England in trouble now.
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The Ian Austin interview was very moving.0
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Poll from Opinium saying 40% 'likely' to vote for a new centrist party.
https://www.progressive-centre.com/post/progressive-centre-uk--opinium-polling0 -
And do what - bin off the party because morals and hand the country over to the Tories?Scott_P said:
Well fuck that0 -
Rather stronger than Hunt's, especially if he gets to the membershipThe_Taxman said:
Just out of interest, how do you rate Boris Johnsons chances of leadership?HYUFD said:
Which is what I said.TheWhiteRabbit said:
"linked to" the USSR but not "a vassal state of"!!HYUFD said:
In the immediate post war years Yugoslavia was linked to the USSR though it joined the non aligned movement in 1961 and can hardly be called a 'Soviet vassal state'Richard_Nabavi said:
Actually he is entirely wrong. Yugoslavia under Tito was semi-detached from the USSR.HYUFD said:
I have never been Hunt's greatest fan but he is not entirely wrong, Yugoslavia (containing Slovenia) was part of the Eastern block until it joined the non aligned pact in 1961williamglenn said:
I think Hunt's leadership chances are about as strong as his grasp of Slovenian history tonight0 -
So you want to stick with Jew hatersRochdalePioneers said:
And do what - bin off the party because morals and hand the country over to the Tories?Scott_P said:
Well fuck that0 -
Hardly 'a moral crusade or nothing', what?RochdalePioneers said:
And do what - bin off the party because morals and hand the country over to the Tories?Scott_P said:
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If the choice is between Corbyn and the Tories under an ERG hard right type scenario, they will clean up....AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Poll from Opinium saying 40% 'likely' to vote for a new centrist party.
https://www.progressive-centre.com/post/progressive-centre-uk--opinium-polling0 -
I did say a day or two ago could TIG out poll labour in the next batch of polling
This weekend's polls will be interesting0 -
You need to campaign to get rid of Corbyn who is becoming more toxic by the dayRochdalePioneers said:
And do what - bin off the party because morals and hand the country over to the Tories?Scott_P said:
Well fuck that0 -
Thats what they rely on - bin them or leave - only choices decent people have left.RochdalePioneers said:
And do what - bin off the party because morals and hand the country over to the Tories?Scott_P said:
Well fuck that
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😂😂😂Foxy said:
Good Lord, why were we not told!felix said:
I didn't know Charlie Falconer had ever resognedScott_P said:How long before he resigns...
https://twitter.com/michaelsavage/status/10990452988344197140 -
Check if the password is stored in Settings - Passwords & Accounts under v for vanilla?Richard_Nabavi said:O/T: I'm trying to sign in to Vanilla to post from an iPad (Safari), but without success. It allows me to log in but immediately forgets that I'm signed in. Am I missing something?
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Nope - I would be happy to see Corbyn and his politics consigned to the dustbin of history.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You don't mean go Tom do you !!!!! I assume you mean just leave and hang Corbyn out to dryFloater said:
words I never thought I would say....Scrapheap_as_was said:The fight for purity just got real
https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1099066171301744642?s=19
" Go Tom!!"
Not a fan of Mr Watson but we don't want a one party state and prefer him to Corbyn and that ilk.0 -
Heart rendering? Dear Lord.Scott_P said:0 -
I once saw my CO survey the remains of a VIP buffet and NAS Oceana. He picked up a fistful of ham, wrapped it in a paper napkin and wolfed the whole lot down in three bites. That's fighting spirit...Freggles said:"Can you give me an example of when you've had to think on your feet under pressure?"
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These endless attempts by the curtain-twitching killjoy May to ruin MPs’ ski trips and spring breaks are vicariously annoying. If I was an MP, I’d just piss off to Les Arcs. It’s not as if anything got done during half term. Grandstanding.Scott_P said:0 -
If you wanna be a Tigger
You better get with their friends
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Yugoslavia was expelled from the Soviet controlled Cominform in 1948.HYUFD said:
I have never been Hunt's greatest fan but he is not entirely wrong, Yugoslavia (containing Slovenia) was part of the Eastern block and aligned with the Soviet Union in the immediate post war period until it joined the non aligned movement in 1961.williamglenn said:
Nonetheless Hunt's statement was not a fully accurate one and as Foreign Secretary he should have done more research before potentially insulting his hosts in this way.0 -
Tig Tory defection targets:
Big G
Eagles
ScottP
Scrapheap
Stark
Topping
Felix
Richard N (stretch target)
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Anecdote alert
today at work a conversation round the coffee machine 2 conservative voters , to labour voters one green
Conservatives.....not voting for them they are screwing the internet up
Labour not voting for them they have that idiot in charge
Lib dems what are they for apart from eu, one trick pony
Greens loonies but heart is in the right place...though the last bit only came from the green voter
Ukip what a bunch of arses
We were rich all basic rate tax payers 4 seemed to be of the opinion that they may as well vote bus pass elvis as frankly they couldnt be worse than the current crop of incompetents. The only one prepared to vote as before was the green. Will they go back to their tribal leanings who knows but if they dont might want to put some money on bus pass elvis getting a couple of seats0 -
Austin excoriated him on Channel 4 News. Said Corbyn was not interested in dealing with anti-semitism, he simply did not care, he thought he was the victim and it was all a smear.Floater said:
Anyone watch it, what did he say?Scott_P said:
He went on to say that the Far Left were now in charge, Labour was no longer Labour and he could see no way back for the party.0 -
And yet even so there are scummy anti-semitic comments in response. It is shaming.CarlottaVance said:0