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We 'ad to make do wi' just the skin on us backs.....kyf_100 said:
Plastic sack? Luxury! We made do with a bit of old cardboard box round my way.paulyork64 said:
we made do with a heavy duty plastic sack from the local farm with an old cushion inside. went faster than most sledges and didnt break your ankle if a runaway hit you.SandyRentool said:
You're forgetting that for some of us Middle Class is posh.Charles said:
Not very - toboggan as a noun is irredeemably middle class.SandyRentool said:How posh do you have to be to reach the interface point between 'sledge' and 'toboggan'?
Kate Silverton has just used the latter.
Posh people use a sledge to go tobogganing.
Or just use a tea tray (my Dad once used a tea tray to slide into Everest base camp in some style)
I used to use my sledge to go sledging.0 -
It’s marketingSandpit said:
Sadly that’s undoubtedly true.Charles said:
I’ve never really understood the US speaker circuit for retired politicians, or what value people think they’re getting for their couple of hundred grand an hour?
I remember a Brazilian contact telling me about an event that JPM held for their top 300 private clients in the country.
Jamie Dimon and Tony Blair greeted each one by name as they arrived in the room.
He said that although intellectually he knew that they were just very well briefed (they had a short, relevant conversation about his business) it was incredibly impactful.0 -
That sounds undemocratic - the EU will love it.Tissue_Price said:
The screenshot suggests appointing MEPs. Presumably the current lot.MarqueeMark said:
It does raise the issue of the EU elections, but we should just waive our right to participate.Andrew said:2 year extension has a lot of logic to it - under the WA transition status we'd de facto be in the EU anyway. It also avoids the HoC roadblock, since May could request the extension unilaterally afaics.
ERG would go absolutely apeshit of course, but screw em.
"Look, we're leaving anyway - and the last thing you guys need is Farage with an extra couple of dozen loons sat behind him...."0 -
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You mean Hwllffordd, I take it? Or were you S of the Landsker Line?justin124 said:
I grew up in Haverfordwest , Pembrokeshire - though do not recall commenting on elections in Wales beyond my own opposition to Devolution. .YBarddCwsc said:
Cardigan -> Aberteifi but Cardiganshire -> Ceredigion.justin124 said:
I was unaware of a referendum there and still use 'Llanelly' when sending post to family in the area. In a similar way, I continue to refer to Cardigan rather than Ceredigion and Anglesey rather than Ynys Mon. Interestingly it is rare to hear people outside the Welsh speaking community refer to Abergwaun or Abertawe instead of Fishguard or Swansea.
I am always interested in your bulletins on how well Labour is doing in Wales and Scotland from Norwich North.0 -
Seems like Ian Dunt has gone mad from that quote Mr P.
Meanwhile in the real world the UK is Europe's fastest growing G7 economy. I think it's you, Mr Dunt and FBPE loons are are increasingly hysterical with their babbling.0 -
You just on big brothers lap and went down........ it was OK until his girl-friend came along.MarqueeMark said:
We 'ad to make do wi' just the skin on us backs.....kyf_100 said:
Plastic sack? Luxury! We made do with a bit of old cardboard box round my way.paulyork64 said:
we made do with a heavy duty plastic sack from the local farm with an old cushion inside. went faster than most sledges and didnt break your ankle if a runaway hit you.SandyRentool said:
You're forgetting that for some of us Middle Class is posh.Charles said:
Not very - toboggan as a noun is irredeemably middle class.SandyRentool said:How posh do you have to be to reach the interface point between 'sledge' and 'toboggan'?
Kate Silverton has just used the latter.
Posh people use a sledge to go tobogganing.
Or just use a tea tray (my Dad once used a tea tray to slide into Everest base camp in some style)
I used to use my sledge to go sledging.0 -
He really is utterly unhinged.Scott_P said:0 -
Quote sounds about right.Richard_Tyndall said:
He really is utterly unhinged.Scott_P said:0 -
Maybe not (though as some people are claiming a revocation would need parliamentary approval, I'm surprised they're not saying the same about extending the timetable).Andrew said:
The WA needed their votes to pass, an extension doesn't :-)Chris said:
If the government were in a position to screw their Eurosceptic wing, the whole thing would have been sorted out by now.
But I'm sure a lengthy extension would split the Tory party in much the same way as other obvious ways out, such as a referendum.0 -
Point and laugh at Ian DuntScott_P said:0 -
We'd need to have a referendum to decide whether to waive our right to vote ...MarqueeMark said:
It does raise the issue of the EU elections, but we should just waive our right to participate.Andrew said:2 year extension has a lot of logic to it - under the WA transition status we'd de facto be in the EU anyway. It also avoids the HoC roadblock, since May could request the extension unilaterally afaics.
ERG would go absolutely apeshit of course, but screw em.0 -
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He really is utterly unhinged.Scott_P said:
The country is now on the verge of disaster. On March 29, unless something is done, Britain will fall out the European Union without a deal. That will affect every aspect of the economy. It’s likely to block haulage cargo at the border; pulverize agricultural exports; trigger shortages of food, medicine and radioactive isotopes; spark employment chaos by suddenly canceling the mutual recognition of qualifications between British and European institutions; halt the legal basis for data transfer overnight; and lead to massive and sudden flows of immigration in both directions. The list goes on and on. There is no part of society that is unaffected. And yet not only does the British political class not seem to understand the consequences of what it is doing, it is lost in populist fantasies instead of addressing the cold reality.0 -
If there is a problem here, it is not a lack of f****** democracyRichard_Tyndall said:
He really is utterly unhinged.Scott_P said:0 -
https://youtu.be/yHNfvJc99YYIanB2 said:
W. Post:Richard_Tyndall said:
He really is utterly unhinged.Scott_P said:
The country is now on the verge of disaster. On March 29, unless something is done, Britain will fall out the European Union without a deal. That will affect every aspect of the economy. It’s likely to block haulage cargo at the border; pulverize agricultural exports; trigger shortages of food, medicine and radioactive isotopes; spark employment chaos by suddenly canceling the mutual recognition of qualifications between British and European institutions; halt the legal basis for data transfer overnight; and lead to massive and sudden flows of immigration in both directions. The list goes on and on. There is no part of society that is unaffected. And yet not only does the British political class not seem to understand the consequences of what it is doing, it is lost in populist fantasies instead of addressing the cold reality.0 -
Ian Dunt and the Washington Post in a positive feedback loop.0
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I am not a fan of his hyperbolic writing style, but the nub of what he is saying is sound enough. We have been mainly talking to ourselves and the consequences of leaving without a deal are unpredictable likely to be pretty unpleasant.MarqueeMark said:
Point and laugh at Ian DuntScott_P said:0 -
No, that is what shoving TINA down the throats of people who keep telling you that isn't what they want for a generation or more gets you. But ymmv.Scott_P said:0 -
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And May tried to repeat the same trick.Recidivist said:
I am not a fan of his hyperbolic writing style, but the nub of what he is saying is sound enough. We have been mainly talking to ourselves and the consequences of leaving without a deal are unpredictable likely to be pretty unpleasant.MarqueeMark said:
Point and laugh at Ian DuntScott_P said:0 -
Given it’s Preston saying this, we shouldn’t be worried at all.Scott_P said:0 -
You just need to believe harder. Really, really, unbelievably hard.Recidivist said:
I am not a fan of his hyperbolic writing style, but the nub of what he is saying is sound enough. We have been mainly talking to ourselves and the consequences of leaving without a deal are unpredictable likely to be pretty unpleasant.MarqueeMark said:
Point and laugh at Ian DuntScott_P said:0 -
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I hope and expect a deal but this sort of hyperbole about 'no deal' simply doesn't help. It may even serve to entrench positions and will certainly look very silly when most of it doesn't happen.IanB2 said:
W. Post:Richard_Tyndall said:
He really is utterly unhinged.Scott_P said:
The country is now on the verge of disaster. On March 29, unless something is done, Britain will fall out the European Union without a deal. That will affect every aspect of the economy. It’s likely to block haulage cargo at the border; pulverize agricultural exports; trigger shortages of food, medicine and radioactive isotopes; spark employment chaos by suddenly canceling the mutual recognition of qualifications between British and European institutions; halt the legal basis for data transfer overnight; and lead to massive and sudden flows of immigration in both directions. The list goes on and on. There is no part of society that is unaffected. And yet not only does the British political class not seem to understand the consequences of what it is doing, it is lost in populist fantasies instead of addressing the cold reality.0 -
I’m preparing care packages for my friends and family as we speakfelix said:
I hope and expect a deal but this sort of hyperbole about 'no deal' simply doesn't help. It may even serve to entrench positions and will certainly look very silly when most of it doesn't happen.IanB2 said:
W. Post:Richard_Tyndall said:
He really is utterly unhinged.Scott_P said:
The country is now on the verge of disaster. On March 29, unless something is done, Britain will fall out the European Union without a deal. That will affect every aspect of the economy. It’s likely to block haulage cargo at the border; pulverize agricultural exports; trigger shortages of food, medicine and radioactive isotopes; spark employment chaos by suddenly canceling the mutual recognition of qualifications between British and European institutions; halt the legal basis for data transfer overnight; and lead to massive and sudden flows of immigration in both directions. The list goes on and on. There is no part of society that is unaffected. And yet not only does the British political class not seem to understand the consequences of what it is doing, it is lost in populist fantasies instead of addressing the cold reality.
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I can't believe you wrote it without big pauses halfway through each sentence.Scott_P said:0 -
At last. Someone's been convicted of allowing FGM on their daughter. And it's the mother who has been convicted.
See BBC site.... London Region.0 -
#FBPE Twitter has spent the last three days mainly on sarcasm and hyperbole rather than reasoned argument, as it’s finally dawning on them that there isn’t a majority in Parliament to overturn the referendum - so the UK is actually about to leave the EU.kyf_100 said:
No, that is what shoving TINA down the throats of people who keep telling you that isn't what they want for a generation or more gets you. But ymmv.Scott_P said:0 -
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Yes - Little England beyond Wales!OldKingCole said:
You mean Hwllffordd, I take it? Or were you S of the Landsker Line?justin124 said:
I grew up in Haverfordwest , Pembrokeshire - though do not recall commenting on elections in Wales beyond my own opposition to Devolution. .YBarddCwsc said:
Cardigan -> Aberteifi but Cardiganshire -> Ceredigion.justin124 said:
I was unaware of a referendum there and still use 'Llanelly' when sending post to family in the area. In a similar way, I continue to refer to Cardigan rather than Ceredigion and Anglesey rather than Ynys Mon. Interestingly it is rare to hear people outside the Welsh speaking community refer to Abergwaun or Abertawe instead of Fishguard or Swansea.
I am always interested in your bulletins on how well Labour is doing in Wales and Scotland from Norwich North.0 -
"During the trial, she claimed her daughter "fell on metal and it's ripped her private parts" after she had climbed to get a biscuit.OldKingCole said:At last. Someone's been convicted of allowing FGM on their daughter. And it's the mother who has been convicted.
See BBC site.... London Region.
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The child was taken to Whipps Cross Hospital, in Leytonstone, where she "lost a significant amount of blood as a result of the injuries they had delivered and inflicted on her", jurors were told."
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If the Tories want to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat a two year membership extension during which time a trade deal is negotiated has a whole lot of upside. I guess the big issue is whether the Tories could actually agree on what the trade deal would be.0
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Fair play to the EU for admitting their sequencing was a totally idiotic idea.SouthamObserver said:If the Tories want to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat a two year membership extension during which time a trade deal is negotiated has a whole lot of upside. I guess the big issue is whether the Tories could actually agree on what the trade deal would be.
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It's an ill wind etc etc...Scott_P said:0 -
That's what I really like about this forum. you don't just learn more about what you think you know, you learn about things you've never heard of.justin124 said:
Yes - Little England beyond Wales!OldKingCole said:
You mean Hwllffordd, I take it? Or were you S of the Landsker Line?justin124 said:
I grew up in Haverfordwest , Pembrokeshire - though do not recall commenting on elections in Wales beyond my own opposition to Devolution. .YBarddCwsc said:
Cardigan -> Aberteifi but Cardiganshire -> Ceredigion.justin124 said:
I was unaware of a referendum there and still use 'Llanelly' when sending post to family in the area. In a similar way, I continue to refer to Cardigan rather than Ceredigion and Anglesey rather than Ynys Mon. Interestingly it is rare to hear people outside the Welsh speaking community refer to Abergwaun or Abertawe instead of Fishguard or Swansea.
I am always interested in your bulletins on how well Labour is doing in Wales and Scotland from Norwich North.0 -
If there were a proposal to extend Article 50 for 2 years, to negotiate a trade deal, I wonder how Labour would vote.0
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God help us!!!!!TheWhiteRabbit said:
"During the trial, she claimed her daughter "fell on metal and it's ripped her private parts" after she had climbed to get a biscuit.OldKingCole said:At last. Someone's been convicted of allowing FGM on their daughter. And it's the mother who has been convicted.
See BBC site.... London Region.
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The child was taken to Whipps Cross Hospital, in Leytonstone, where she "lost a significant amount of blood as a result of the injuries they had delivered and inflicted on her", jurors were told."
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It will be like living in the world of Mad Max.IanB2 said:
W. Post:Richard_Tyndall said:
He really is utterly unhinged.Scott_P said:
The country is now on the verge of disaster. On March 29, unless something is done, Britain will fall out the European Union without a deal. That will affect every aspect of the economy. It’s likely to block haulage cargo at the border; pulverize agricultural exports; trigger shortages of food, medicine and radioactive isotopes; spark employment chaos by suddenly canceling the mutual recognition of qualifications between British and European institutions; halt the legal basis for data transfer overnight; and lead to massive and sudden flows of immigration in both directions. The list goes on and on. There is no part of society that is unaffected. And yet not only does the British political class not seem to understand the consequences of what it is doing, it is lost in populist fantasies instead of addressing the cold reality.0 -
Yep. Unhinged.IanB2 said:
W. Post:Richard_Tyndall said:
He really is utterly unhinged.Scott_P said:
The country is now on the verge of disaster. On March 29, unless something is done, Britain will fall out the European Union without a deal. That will affect every aspect of the economy. It’s likely to block haulage cargo at the border; pulverize agricultural exports; trigger shortages of food, medicine and radioactive isotopes; spark employment chaos by suddenly canceling the mutual recognition of qualifications between British and European institutions; halt the legal basis for data transfer overnight; and lead to massive and sudden flows of immigration in both directions. The list goes on and on. There is no part of society that is unaffected. And yet not only does the British political class not seem to understand the consequences of what it is doing, it is lost in populist fantasies instead of addressing the cold reality.0 -
Poor girl.
A newly qualified solicitor has been struck off after she knowingly overcharged clients when she was a trainee.
Emily Scott joined the firm Quality Solicitors De Vita Platt in Barton-upon-Humber as a paralegal in 2010 before being taken on as a trainee in 2012. She soon found that there was very little of quality about the firm. The Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal heard that the firms two partners, Jonathan de Vita and Christopher Platt, repeatedly ripped off a number of clients. In one instance a client was charged £52,000 for work valued at £2,500.
Platt – who claimed he couldn’t live on less than £2,000 a week – bullied the unfortunate trainee into assisting with the fraud and, subsequently, his attempts to cover it up. Scott did not benefit financially and ultimately reported the firm to the SRA. She qualified in November 2014.
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/trainee-struck-overcharging-clients-after-being-bullied-partner0 -
But think of all those poor souls who have lavished money on stockpiling. They will be distraught.SouthamObserver said:If the Tories want to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat a two year membership extension during which time a trade deal is negotiated has a whole lot of upside. I guess the big issue is whether the Tories could actually agree on what the trade deal would be.
It is, however, about the most sensible idea I've heard on Brexit for a long long time, and how the negotiations should have proceeded initially.0 -
That seems remarkably unfair to me. People should not be punished for doing the right thing.TheScreamingEagles said:Poor girl.
A newly qualified solicitor has been struck off after she knowingly overcharged clients when she was a trainee.
Emily Scott joined the firm Quality Solicitors De Vita Platt in Barton-upon-Humber as a paralegal in 2010 before being taken on as a trainee in 2012. She soon found that there was very little of quality about the firm. The Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal heard that the firms two partners, Jonathan de Vita and Christopher Platt, repeatedly ripped off a number of clients. In one instance a client was charged £52,000 for work valued at £2,500.
Platt – who claimed he couldn’t live on less than £2,000 a week – bullied the unfortunate trainee into assisting with the fraud and, subsequently, his attempts to cover it up. Scott did not benefit financially and ultimately reported the firm to the SRA. She qualified in November 2014.
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/trainee-struck-overcharging-clients-after-being-bullied-partner0 -
£52,000 for £2,500 - so easy to accidentally transpose a couple of digits and slip in an extra zero!TheScreamingEagles said:Poor girl.
A newly qualified solicitor has been struck off after she knowingly overcharged clients when she was a trainee.
Emily Scott joined the firm Quality Solicitors De Vita Platt in Barton-upon-Humber as a paralegal in 2010 before being taken on as a trainee in 2012. She soon found that there was very little of quality about the firm. The Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal heard that the firms two partners, Jonathan de Vita and Christopher Platt, repeatedly ripped off a number of clients. In one instance a client was charged £52,000 for work valued at £2,500.
Platt – who claimed he couldn’t live on less than £2,000 a week – bullied the unfortunate trainee into assisting with the fraud and, subsequently, his attempts to cover it up. Scott did not benefit financially and ultimately reported the firm to the SRA. She qualified in November 2014.
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/trainee-struck-overcharging-clients-after-being-bullied-partner
Her sentence seems a bit harsh in the circumstances.
Still "Twatmandrill" is my new word of the week.0 -
What would they have to vote on though? The only thing I can think of is altering the Withdrawal Act to add +2 years to the date, and blocking that would mean they'd get all the blame for the resulting no-deal scenario.Morris_Dancer said:If there were a proposal to extend Article 50 for 2 years, to negotiate a trade deal, I wonder how Labour would vote.
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Northern Softy!TheScreamingEagles said:Have to agree with this.
https://twitter.com/nibz250/status/1090982037153034240?s=21
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What was that about supporting whistleblowers? Too often such tribunals ignore such advice.Sean_F said:
That seems remarkably unfair to me. People should not be punished for doing the right thing.TheScreamingEagles said:Poor girl.
A newly qualified solicitor has been struck off after she knowingly overcharged clients when she was a trainee.
Emily Scott joined the firm Quality Solicitors De Vita Platt in Barton-upon-Humber as a paralegal in 2010 before being taken on as a trainee in 2012. She soon found that there was very little of quality about the firm. The Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal heard that the firms two partners, Jonathan de Vita and Christopher Platt, repeatedly ripped off a number of clients. In one instance a client was charged £52,000 for work valued at £2,500.
Platt – who claimed he couldn’t live on less than £2,000 a week – bullied the unfortunate trainee into assisting with the fraud and, subsequently, his attempts to cover it up. Scott did not benefit financially and ultimately reported the firm to the SRA. She qualified in November 2014.
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/trainee-struck-overcharging-clients-after-being-bullied-partner0 -
We would end up in the same situation as now pretty much, unless May followed through on her promise to open up the discussion on the future trade deal.SouthamObserver said:If the Tories want to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat a two year membership extension during which time a trade deal is negotiated has a whole lot of upside. I guess the big issue is whether the Tories could actually agree on what the trade deal would be.
Otherwise it would be her compromise that was close enough to solve the border issue, but not close enough to satisfy Labour and too close to appease the ERG.0 -
A commentator said today that the ERG's threat to withhold the £39 billion is 'barking' as the EU will make sure they get it back with interest in any negotiations over a trade deal. He also said that the ECJ could not compel the UK to pay once we exit0
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I do worry about the effect on whistleblowers. I think the appropraite thing would have been to ask her to complete a fresh training contract somewhere else (with or without some credit).Carolus_Rex said:
£52,000 for £2,500 - so easy to accidentally transpose a couple of digits and slip in an extra zero!TheScreamingEagles said:Poor girl.
A newly qualified solicitor has been struck off after she knowingly overcharged clients when she was a trainee.
Emily Scott joined the firm Quality Solicitors De Vita Platt in Barton-upon-Humber as a paralegal in 2010 before being taken on as a trainee in 2012. She soon found that there was very little of quality about the firm. The Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal heard that the firms two partners, Jonathan de Vita and Christopher Platt, repeatedly ripped off a number of clients. In one instance a client was charged £52,000 for work valued at £2,500.
Platt – who claimed he couldn’t live on less than £2,000 a week – bullied the unfortunate trainee into assisting with the fraud and, subsequently, his attempts to cover it up. Scott did not benefit financially and ultimately reported the firm to the SRA. She qualified in November 2014.
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/trainee-struck-overcharging-clients-after-being-bullied-partner
Her sentence seems a bit harsh in the circumstances.
Still "Twatmandrill" is my new word of the week.
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Ah yes, being in breach of your international obligations. What a great look for the UK.Big_G_NorthWales said:He also said that the ECJ could not compel the UK to pay once we exit
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Welsh Devolution Referendum 1997:justin124 said:
I grew up in Haverfordwest , Pembrokeshire - though do not recall commenting on elections in Wales beyond my own opposition to Devolution. .YBarddCwsc said:
Cardigan -> Aberteifi but Cardiganshire -> Ceredigion.justin124 said:
I was unaware of a referendum there and still use 'Llanelly' when sending post to family in the area. In a similar way, I continue to refer to Cardigan rather than Ceredigion and Anglesey rather than Ynys Mon. Interestingly it is rare to hear people outside the Welsh speaking community refer to Abergwaun or Abertawe instead of Fishguard or Swansea.
I am always interested in your bulletins on how well Labour is doing in Wales and Scotland from Norwich North.
Yes 50.3%
No 49.7%
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But I suspect one of the beauties of the GFA was that EU membership made some of those tricky sovereignty things go away. It was basically "what are we all worrying about? These things all happen anyway because Single Market/ever-closer-union/Jacques Delors says so". Writing stuff like customs into the GFA separately would feel a bit like John Humphreys asking Irish people if they want to rejoin the UK again.williamglenn said:
If they had been thought through, the GFA would surely have created an all-island customs territory at the time, which would have made it clear Brexit would not take Northern Ireland out of the customs union.Charles said:
Why would you include a get out mechanism in the GFA? It was supposed to settle things permanently. But no one thought through the black swan scenarios properlyNemtynakht said:
As a remain voter who now supports Leave this is a good option. It should never have been sequenced in that way in any case. The most disturbing thing for me that has come out over the last few days is that by signing the Good Friday agreement the government has committed to free movement across a border, without reference to possible membership of the EU. I assume that there has always been a get out mechanism like A50Charles said:
It would effectively mean the EU acknowledging that the sequencing idea was a stupid one. But we shouldn’t make an issue of that because this is quite a good solution to where we are todayBig_G_NorthWales said:
I heard dafter ideasAlastairMeeks said:This would be fun:
https://twitter.com/JGForsyth/status/10913156858447667210 -
I am glad we have remained highly high minded here on PB, and not descended to the depths that academic twitter seems to have
https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/10913274419252961340 -
So sad, here’s hoping that an exemplary sentence is passed down and that the trial is publicised among ‘communities’ where this offence may be an issue.TheWhiteRabbit said:
"During the trial, she claimed her daughter "fell on metal and it's ripped her private parts" after she had climbed to get a biscuit.OldKingCole said:At last. Someone's been convicted of allowing FGM on their daughter. And it's the mother who has been convicted.
See BBC site.... London Region.
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The child was taken to Whipps Cross Hospital, in Leytonstone, where she "lost a significant amount of blood as a result of the injuries they had delivered and inflicted on her", jurors were told."
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Yep, the backstop would still be a live issue and would be very dependent on the trade deal that was negotiated. And there does seem to be major disagreement within Tory ranks about what the final deal would look like. But all that applies anyway, so why not just extend and get the full benefits of membership in the meantime?OblitusSumMe said:
We would end up in the same situation as now pretty much, unless May followed through on her promise to open up the discussion on the future trade deal.SouthamObserver said:If the Tories want to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat a two year membership extension during which time a trade deal is negotiated has a whole lot of upside. I guess the big issue is whether the Tories could actually agree on what the trade deal would be.
Otherwise it would be her compromise that was close enough to solve the border issue, but not close enough to satisfy Labour and too close to appease the ERG.
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Totally agree. Case as stated, far too harsh.TheWhiteRabbit said:
I do worry about the effect on whistleblowers. I think the appropraite thing would have been to ask her to complete a fresh training contract somewhere else (with or without some credit).Carolus_Rex said:
£52,000 for £2,500 - so easy to accidentally transpose a couple of digits and slip in an extra zero!TheScreamingEagles said:Poor girl.
A newly qualified solicitor has been struck off after she knowingly overcharged clients when she was a trainee.
Emily Scott joined the firm Quality Solicitors De Vita Platt in Barton-upon-Humber as a paralegal in 2010 before being taken on as a trainee in 2012. She soon found that there was very little of quality about the firm. The Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal heard that the firms two partners, Jonathan de Vita and Christopher Platt, repeatedly ripped off a number of clients. In one instance a client was charged £52,000 for work valued at £2,500.
Platt – who claimed he couldn’t live on less than £2,000 a week – bullied the unfortunate trainee into assisting with the fraud and, subsequently, his attempts to cover it up. Scott did not benefit financially and ultimately reported the firm to the SRA. She qualified in November 2014.
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/trainee-struck-overcharging-clients-after-being-bullied-partner
Her sentence seems a bit harsh in the circumstances.
Still "Twatmandrill" is my new word of the week.0 -
Matthew Goodwin is far from perfect, but he tries hard to engage with the public. It's not his fault that the Spectator's editor put out a completely unfair tweet that named him positively. On this, today at least, he is much more sinned against than sinning.rottenborough said:I am glad we have remained highly high minded here on PB, and not descended to the depths that academic twitter seems to have
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+1. Very harsh on the young lady, who did the right thing in reporting the fraud to the authorities. Better protections for such whistleblowers required.TheWhiteRabbit said:
I do worry about the effect on whistleblowers. I think the appropraite thing would have been to ask her to complete a fresh training contract somewhere else (with or without some credit).Carolus_Rex said:
£52,000 for £2,500 - so easy to accidentally transpose a couple of digits and slip in an extra zero!TheScreamingEagles said:Poor girl.
A newly qualified solicitor has been struck off after she knowingly overcharged clients when she was a trainee.
Emily Scott joined the firm Quality Solicitors De Vita Platt in Barton-upon-Humber as a paralegal in 2010 before being taken on as a trainee in 2012. She soon found that there was very little of quality about the firm. The Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal heard that the firms two partners, Jonathan de Vita and Christopher Platt, repeatedly ripped off a number of clients. In one instance a client was charged £52,000 for work valued at £2,500.
Platt – who claimed he couldn’t live on less than £2,000 a week – bullied the unfortunate trainee into assisting with the fraud and, subsequently, his attempts to cover it up. Scott did not benefit financially and ultimately reported the firm to the SRA. She qualified in November 2014.
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/trainee-struck-overcharging-clients-after-being-bullied-partner
Her sentence seems a bit harsh in the circumstances.
Still "Twatmandrill" is my new word of the week.0 -
Yep, that sounds very harsh.TheScreamingEagles said:Poor girl.
A newly qualified solicitor has been struck off after she knowingly overcharged clients when she was a trainee.
Emily Scott joined the firm Quality Solicitors De Vita Platt in Barton-upon-Humber as a paralegal in 2010 before being taken on as a trainee in 2012. She soon found that there was very little of quality about the firm. The Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal heard that the firms two partners, Jonathan de Vita and Christopher Platt, repeatedly ripped off a number of clients. In one instance a client was charged £52,000 for work valued at £2,500.
Platt – who claimed he couldn’t live on less than £2,000 a week – bullied the unfortunate trainee into assisting with the fraud and, subsequently, his attempts to cover it up. Scott did not benefit financially and ultimately reported the firm to the SRA. She qualified in November 2014.
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Yes but that was the point about my full post. We may not have to pay it legally but the EU would extract it and more through trade negotiationsTheWhiteRabbit said:
Ah yes, being in breach of your international obligations. What a great look for the UK.Big_G_NorthWales said:He also said that the ECJ could not compel the UK to pay once we exit
Instead we should pay that part relating to our prior liabilities and refute any liability for 2019/20 and 2020/21 budgetary contributions
And of course, it is outrageous that we even suggest we will not pay our liabilities
My plea
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The fact pattern is more complicated than that - the whistleblowing came after she left, not at the time so ah has finished her TC. Recent case law doesn’t help her either.Sean_F said:
That seems remarkably unfair to me. People should not be punished for doing the right thing.TheScreamingEagles said:Poor girl.
A newly qualified solicitor has been struck off after she knowingly overcharged clients when she was a trainee.
Emily Scott joined the firm Quality Solicitors De Vita Platt in Barton-upon-Humber as a paralegal in 2010 before being taken on as a trainee in 2012. She soon found that there was very little of quality about the firm. The Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal heard that the firms two partners, Jonathan de Vita and Christopher Platt, repeatedly ripped off a number of clients. In one instance a client was charged £52,000 for work valued at £2,500.
Platt – who claimed he couldn’t live on less than £2,000 a week – bullied the unfortunate trainee into assisting with the fraud and, subsequently, his attempts to cover it up. Scott did not benefit financially and ultimately reported the firm to the SRA. She qualified in November 2014.
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What's that quote about academic politics? It is the most bloody, because the stakes are so small.AlastairMeeks said:
Matthew Goodwin is far from perfect, but he tries hard to engage with the public. It's not his fault that the Spectator's editor put out a completely unfair tweet that named him positively. On this, today at least, he is much more sinned against than sinning.rottenborough said:I am glad we have remained highly high minded here on PB, and not descended to the depths that academic twitter seems to have
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He is one of the extreme remainers who is very bitter about brexit and tends to use unnecesssary language in his statements. He is editor of politics.co.ukmatt said:Who is Ian Dunt and why is he seen as an infallible sage of Brexit?
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The main negative as far as I can see is that May sees it as her duty to deliver Brexit, so we would likely have another two years of her zombie ministry. I think signing the withdrawal agreement, and entering the transition would be preferable, as there's a chance that the next Tory leader might be better suited to forging something approaching a consensus, rather than insisting that it exists already.SouthamObserver said:
Yep, the backstop would still be a live issue and would be very dependent on the trade deal that was negotiated. And there does seem to be major disagreement within Tory ranks about what the final deal would look like. But all that applies anyway, so why not just extend and get the full benefits of membership in the meantime?OblitusSumMe said:
We would end up in the same situation as now pretty much, unless May followed through on her promise to open up the discussion on the future trade deal.SouthamObserver said:If the Tories want to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat a two year membership extension during which time a trade deal is negotiated has a whole lot of upside. I guess the big issue is whether the Tories could actually agree on what the trade deal would be.
Otherwise it would be her compromise that was close enough to solve the border issue, but not close enough to satisfy Labour and too close to appease the ERG.
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The poster will read 'Harris - O'Rourke 2020'Tissue_Price said:
I think that's quite a likely eventual outcome.HisMajestyKingZog said:Beto will be on the ticket as VP...
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