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Assume that in the next 4 years Britain elects Labour led by Corbyn. What governing challenges might it face? We do not know what the world will be like in 2022. But conditions are unlikely to be propitious. With such caveats in mind, here goes.
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Which part of Canada gives people US citizenship as a birthright?
Short term pain for long term gain their adherents argue.
Mobile handsets that simply make calls are being marketed as an escape from constantly being connected to social media and apps."
https://news.sky.com/story/dumb-phone-sales-on-the-rise-as-smartphone-users-hope-to-switch-off-11476323
Thank you Cyclefree, I always enjoy reading your posts
Leader of a union threatening legal action against a former member for the language used in his resignation email
Kinder/Gentler etc etc etc
The resignation
https://twitter.com/Jasmin_Beckett/status/1031545951947771904
The threat
https://twitter.com/unitetheunion/status/1031563556234383360
Chancellor of the Exchequer: John McDonnell
Home Secretary: Diane Abbott
Business Secretary: Rebecca Long-Bailey [Do stop giggling at the back]
Education Secretary: Angela Rayner [Did you hear me? ]
Justice Secretary: Richard Burgon
Defence Secretary: Nia Griffith
... and so it goes on. This is by a country mile the most laughable, and unfortunately also sinister, team ever put forward by a major political party. There are maybe just four or so Shadow Cabinet ministers fit for office (Emily Thornberry, Keir Starmer, Jonathan Ashworth, John Healey).
But we all know that; sane Labour MPs know it better than anyone.
Corbyn's character is deeply flawed. He is also 69 years old so would be 73 at the time of the 2022 general election. Probably he will have stepped down before then.
I do not drive but given the effect on the polls that petrol prices have, this could move more votes than Momentum's next campaign video.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/19/drivers-face-100-fine-going-1mph-speed-limit-police-urge-end/
I can't think of another PM-in-waiting so unqualified by both experience and temperament to be this country's leader, bar possibly Richard Cromwell.
As I've been thinking a lot about Pascal's wager lately...hail Jezza!
South Africa has targeted the first two farms for unilateral seizure after the owners refused an offer of one-tenth of the land’s value."
https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/south-africa-begins-seizing-whiteowned-farms/news-story/8937f899bd3f131bfc4ffb648ea5c53b
Mrs Pioneers resigned from Unite because of Len MadClusky - didn't manage to "libel" him though. Poor show really, must try harder next time
Judging by experience in East Africa, Asians would also be wise to leave.
I view Corbyn - and those around him - as the quintessential wolves in sheep's clothing.
We are all framed by the environment in which we grew up and I grew up bang in the middle of a pit village on strike. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the miner's strike, some of the behaviour of the hard left was appalling. I remember that they were right nasty bastards (and still are). The strike was soured by threats and intimidation and unwillingness to compromise. You were destined to get fucked up badly if you scabbed.
That mentality may play well in some protest movements (although it royally screwed the poor ordinary miner), but it's no good for governing. The likes of McCluskey, Andrew Murray, Andrew Fisher, McDonnell etc are the same ilk as those who infiltrated and fought the miner's strike. They will never, ever compromise. Corbyn is their conduit to power. I genuinely worry about what they'd do if they got their hands on the controls of this country.
I worry because I think they are more motivated by hurting the wealthy than they are helping the poor. The entryists during the strike were less concerned for the plight of the miners than they were for getting Thatcher's head on a stick.
The era may have changed but the mentality hasn't.
There is plenty wrong with capitalism and Corbyn has done well to motivate a movement and to point out the injustices. But I'll never believe he is the answer. And I don't think many voters, outside of the 500k hardcore Momentumites, do either.
If a Hilary Benn or Yvette Cooper was leading Labour right now I reckon they'd be 10% ahead in the polls. For all Corbyn's mythical powers, he's a millstone rather than a rock.
All bets are off indeed, as far as how Corbyn's team will bend our unwritten constitution.
What chance for example, that he will simply abandon PMQs?
Or close down the House of Lords?
There will certainly be an attack on the free press as Williamson keeps promising us.
For those of us who work in industries/sectors that work closely with countries in the EU all we see is a lot of disruption and no reward from Brexit.
At the moment if Corbyn wins it is more likely to be by being propped up by the SNP, Plaid, the Greens and maybe the LDs too but his aims eould remain the same
I mean they've been there since like 4,004 BCE.
*Lights blue touch paper and catches the train*
Corbyn's pablum is popular. It just is. Whatever our personal patrician views, many plebeians think that renationalising rail, energy and water is the dog's bollocks.
And thats just the bug 2. The Yellow Pox - what was left of them after the "we're more Tory than the Tories" coalition was led by a Religious nut job then a doddering old fool. UKIP have had a succession of member lotteries where the loser gets to serve as leader. There are very very few politicians who look remotely like 1st rank in any party - and the few who do are a long way from even the faint hope of being given a role.
I am still waiting for the realignment of parties. That UKIP are now publicly inserting themselves into the Tories suggests their split is near, and we know how the Labour Party has already broken in two (albeit still co-habiting in the marital home) as did the LibDems when Clegg and his Orange Tory faction ignored the members and binned off the Soclai Liberalism wing.
Today, a Corbynite said she should be deported.
Conservative lead at 3
Lower and lower and lower...
Of course it would be financially disastrous, but everyone other than John McDonnell and a few of his extreme-left nutter friends already knows that.
This means in a 30mph speed zone, motorists can drive at 34mph without risk of being penalised."
Ummm. 35mph, no?
I fear for the country if that lot get into power.
Between you and me I set next to Andy McDonald at a recent wedding. He was very smug about being on top of his brief, having just demanded that GTR pay compensation out of their profits. "But GTR is a concession and doesn't make any profit from fares - they all go straight to the government" I pointed out. He looked at me blankly. I then asked him how we would renationalise something we already own (GTR) - when the contract expires of is terminated operating rights revert to the owner (the state) - so its already nationalised. Shouldn't we instead campaign for investment and better management by the DfT and Network Rail whose fault the GTR debacle is?
Whoosh... To be fair Chris Failing wouldn't have a clue either.
Laugh?
I nearly farted.
https://twitter.com/Kevin_Maguire/status/1031562656254181378
And, only a simple majority is needed. The Brexiters are really making it easy.
Sound familiar?
They left before being a member of Thatcher’s finest achievement, the Single Market.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Angle
A slight contrast to Northern Ireland without which the UK wouldn't be the UK.
Frankly, if all a Corbyn government was about was nationalising the railways and water, I could live with that. But I think they could not be trusted with national security and there is a risk that they may seek to change the rules of the game so as to entrench their changes. How committed are Marxists with a penchant for admiring men of violence to democracy?
In towns 30mph is plenty. I am not a great fan of 20mph limits except near schools but where cars interact with pedestrians we should be more cautious.
As if often the way more people seem energised by the dream of what Corbyn is than the reality (which is pretty clearly the case when his most extreme supporters label as smears things he himself has said) but they do appear to be on board for that dream, and enough other people are willing to go along for the ride. Enough to win? Maybe, maybe not. But he gets people on board who would not otherwise be, and the moderates can whinge all they like, they still want him to be PM and presumably most of their supporters do too, given the polling.