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Remaining in the Union still leads even after the poop show at Westminster.williamglenn said:
I thought that saving the union was the one achievement of the snap election?? Don't tell me even that was a failure.TheScreamingEagles said:
The walkout hasn’t done much.0 -
Don't forget to subtract $2.5tn for the UK.grabcocque said:GDPs in Trillions of USD
US 18.57
EU 20.9
China 11.2
Well, what do you know?0 -
The ConHome leaked draft, if true, is even more BRINO than May's been letting on.
Basically this is a rule taking full Norway, slightly rebranded.0 -
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I don't think they are leaking the white paper. It's an alternative plan.grabcocque said:The ConHome leaked draft, if true, is even more BRINO than May's been letting on.
Basically this is a rule taking full Norway, slightly rebranded.0 -
Source please. Wiki and Google put EU at 17.2 tngrabcocque said:GDPs in Trillions of USD
US 18.57
EU 20.9
China 11.2
Well, what do you know?0 -
Not really. It's been 20 years since I read up on Grattan and 15 years since my sojourn with Wolfe Tone so don't remember the details. But - although it was controversial - the "acts of political, religious and economic violence" you refer to simply didn't occur.grabcocque said:
After acts of political, religious and economic violence by the English that made acquiescence unavoidable. The fact that a desperate Parliament had no choice but to accede to England's wishes is hardly any kind of get-out-of-jail-free card.Charles said:
It was incorporated into the UK through a vote by the Irish Parliament.
The problem was more one of absentee landlords not paying attention to what was being done in their name.
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Russia $1.6 TnRobD said:
Don't forget to subtract $2.5tn for the UK.grabcocque said:GDPs in Trillions of USD
US 18.57
EU 20.9
China 11.2
Well, what do you know?0 -
But still willing to invade neighboring countries.Pulpstar said:
Russia $1.6 TnRobD said:
Don't forget to subtract $2.5tn for the UK.grabcocque said:GDPs in Trillions of USD
US 18.57
EU 20.9
China 11.2
Well, what do you know?0 -
Google. I put "GDP of the EU" in and right at the top of the page is a box that has 20.9 in it.Philip_Thompson said:
Source please. Wiki and Google put EU at 17.2 tngrabcocque said:GDPs in Trillions of USD
US 18.57
EU 20.9
China 11.2
Well, what do you know?
In any case we're arguing about pocket money here. The EU is either the largest or is close to being the largest economy on earth. Nobody else comes close other than the US.0 -
Or .... it'll quietly be forgotten, and there will be no change. All NATO members are already committed to that 2%, so they could hardly refuse.Big_G_NorthWales said:Love him or hate him this increased spending will give a massive boost to US military sales
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You misunderstand my commentsRoger said:For Big G. If you liked trump today you should like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcPQ9gww_qc
I have intense dislike of Trump but that does not mean that everything he says is wrong
Just as I have an intense dislike of Corbyn but everything he says is not wrong0 -
On your metric (PPP) China is highest.grabcocque said:
Google. I put "GDP of the EU" in and right at the top of the page is a box that has 20.9 in it.Philip_Thompson said:
Source please. Wiki and Google put EU at 17.2 tngrabcocque said:GDPs in Trillions of USD
US 18.57
EU 20.9
China 11.2
Well, what do you know?
In any case we're arguing about pocket money here. The EU is either the largest or is close to being the largest economy on earth. Nobody else comes close other than the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)0 -
Which most will continue to miss.Andrew said:
Or .... it'll quietly be forgotten, and there will be no change. All NATO members are already committed to that 2%, so they could hardly refuse.Big_G_NorthWales said:Love him or hate him this increased spending will give a massive boost to US military sales
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You're comparing apples with oranges then.grabcocque said:
Google. I put "GDP of the EU" in and right at the top of the page is a box that has 20.9 in it.Philip_Thompson said:
Source please. Wiki and Google put EU at 17.2 tngrabcocque said:GDPs in Trillions of USD
US 18.57
EU 20.9
China 11.2
Well, what do you know?
In any case we're arguing about pocket money here. The EU is either the largest or is close to being the largest economy on earth. Nobody else comes close other than the US.
Under nominal GDP USA is top, under PPP China is. You can't compare one nations nominal GDP another's PPP.0 -
The idea of receiving their pensions in turnips is a powerful incentive.Pulpstar said:
Do people become more unionist as they age ?AndyJS said:"Europe Elects
@EuropeElects
52m52 minutes ago
UK, Survation poll:
Scottish Independence Referendum
18-24 | YES 71%, NO 29%
25-34 | YES 63%, NO 37%
35-44 | YES 54%, NO 46%
45-54 | YES 46%, NO 54%
55-64 | YES 36%, NO 64%
65+ | YES 31%, NO 69%
Overall: YES 47%, NO 53%
Field work: 05/07/18–10/07/18
Sample size: 1,002
#indyref2 #Brexit #ScotRef"0 -
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Trump even said the US military are the best in the World and invited the members to buy it, and many willAndrew said:
Or .... it'll quietly be forgotten, and there will be no change. All NATO members are already committed to that 2%, so they could hardly refuse.Big_G_NorthWales said:Love him or hate him this increased spending will give a massive boost to US military sales
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It obviously was not as No is still aheadwilliamglenn said:
I thought that saving the union was the one achievement of the snap election?? Don't tell me even that was a failure.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
So that EU Army isn’t looking such a bad idea now.
Another barrier to our rejoining the EU in the next decade is being removed.
It survives as a legal framework with a set of treaty obligations. A US withdrawal effectively transforms it into EUTO, and Europe is going to have to find itself an army to back up its obligations to its members and allies in the Baltic.Dura_Ace said:
NATO will not survive a US withdrawal. The US contribution absolutely dwarfs all the other members and it structures and processes reflect that centrality. There will eventually be a new European security framework in its stead. In the mean time learn Russian and dig a shelter.Ishmael_Z said:
The trouble is that NATO survives a US withdrawal from it. It is all very well having nothing to do with things, but Europe is in a whole ocean of shit when Don's mate Vladimir has a pop at the Baltic states while the treaty subsists.grabcocque said:
If Trump wants to destroy NATO, then let him. Europe should have nothing to do with his childish games any longer.rottenborough said:
EDIT: I cannot, *will not* believe that his party, an overtly and explicitly atlanticist party for countless generations, will allow this to stand. But the Stockholm syndrome in the GOP runs deep nowadays.0 -
They become richer as poor people die off earlier.Pulpstar said:
Do people become more unionist as they age ?AndyJS said:"Europe Elects
@EuropeElects
52m52 minutes ago
UK, Survation poll:
Scottish Independence Referendum
18-24 | YES 71%, NO 29%
25-34 | YES 63%, NO 37%
35-44 | YES 54%, NO 46%
45-54 | YES 46%, NO 54%
55-64 | YES 36%, NO 64%
65+ | YES 31%, NO 69%
Overall: YES 47%, NO 53%
Field work: 05/07/18–10/07/18
Sample size: 1,002
#indyref2 #Brexit #ScotRef"
Think about the Glasgow Effect cutting down swathes of yes voters in their 50s.0
