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It's a lot better than the survey you put up.Gardenwalker said:
That survey is a swizz.rcs1000 said:
So, Richard Tyndall and I aren't even worthy of mention. (Sobs quietly.)Pulpstar said:
From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:Tykejohnno said:
I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.Gardenwalker said:Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.
This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.
Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG
Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno
Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.
Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
@Alanbrooke is also missing from Leave, as re those two Welsh posters. Edit: and @Ishmael_Z
Alanrooke didn't post in the last 2 threads (read the top of the survey), IshmaelZ hasn't posted today.0 -
Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.0
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The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
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What are cookies?
Cookies are small pieces of dough that get placed on the computer's processor during times of high load, such as looking at dodgy walking websites on the 'net. The first time you visit a site, a new piece of dough is put onto the processor, and a load of personal information is baked within it. The next time you visit, that information is used to recognise you and operate your webcam.
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Can some clever person produce a graph with left - right on the X-axis, leave - remain on the Y-axis, and PBers' names in little bubbles in the appropriate places?
My hunch is a general U-shape.0 -
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.0 -
The neobrexiteers who do whatever The Party tells them to.The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
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Are you still going by the last two threads ?Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.0 -
Cyclefree and a couple of others are in the sui-generis (Unsure) categoryThe_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
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This is true. Very grateful to Pulpstar for assembling the list, though questioning the conclusion!JonnyJimmy said:
It's a lot better than the survey you put up.Gardenwalker said:
That survey is a swizz.rcs1000 said:
So, Richard Tyndall and I aren't even worthy of mention. (Sobs quietly.)Pulpstar said:
From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:Tykejohnno said:
I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.Gardenwalker said:Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.
This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.
Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG
Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno
Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.
Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
@Alanbrooke is also missing from Leave, as re those two Welsh posters. Edit: and @Ishmael_Z0 -
Expanded now to include anyone I can remember posts here regularlyTykejohnno said:
Are you still going by the last two threads ?Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.0 -
Can each side get a function where we get to ignore posts from the other side?0
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What a ride from Chris Froome.0
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I'm still waiting to be inducted into the PB Tory hall of fame. This'll have to do.Pulpstar said:
Expanded now to include anyone I can remember posts here regularlyTykejohnno said:
Are you still going by the last two threads ?Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
(although I personally think the keeping of lists like this is somewhat ominous!)0 -
Can we have a (PbT) label appended to the you-know-whos?Pulpstar said:
Expanded now to include anyone I can remember posts here regularlyTykejohnno said:
Are you still going by the last two threads ?Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.0 -
Hah, very good. I can see some US websites have gone nuclear and just banned EU visitors, lol.JosiasJessop said:I've just been trying to make my website GDRP compatible. Can someone with technical knowledge tell me if the following from my cookie policy is correct?
What are cookies?
Cookies are small pieces of dough that get placed on the computer's processor during times of high load, such as looking at dodgy walking websites on the 'net. The first time you visit a site, a new piece of dough is put onto the processor, and a load of personal information is baked within it. The next time you visit, that information is used to recognise you and operate your webcam.
The cookies are collected at night by black operatives, who break into your home, open up your computer, and take them back to MI5/CIA/SVR RF. If you ever find crumbs by your desk in the morning, it might be because the operatives got a little hungry and ate the cookies. They are also responsible for placing new dough in your computer, making coffee rings on your desks and draining ink out of your printers (HP, Lexmark and Canon all have sponsorship deals with the operatives).
The performance of your computer may suffer it stores too many cookies. For this reason, please make the operatives' job easier and leave windows open and doors unlocked. They also quite like a beer, so (for UK readers) a nice bottle of ale should be left within easy reach of your computer each night.0 -
The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.JonnyJimmy said:
The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
@Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.
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I have a bet on him winning 5 Tour De France which I can't see due to Ladbrokes hideous policies. I'm going to dig it out now.FrancisUrquhart said:What a ride from Chris Froome.
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I swear there are more comments about them than from them these days!Gardenwalker said:
Can we have a (PbT) label appended to the you-know-whos?Pulpstar said:
Expanded now to include anyone I can remember posts here regularlyTykejohnno said:
Are you still going by the last two threads ?Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.0 -
Can we conclude by the list so far,remainers need somewhere to go to moan ;-)Gardenwalker said:
This is true. Very grateful to Pulpstar for assembling the list, though questioning the conclusion!JonnyJimmy said:
It's a lot better than the survey you put up.Gardenwalker said:
That survey is a swizz.rcs1000 said:
So, Richard Tyndall and I aren't even worthy of mention. (Sobs quietly.)Pulpstar said:
From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:Tykejohnno said:
I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.Gardenwalker said:Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.
This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.
Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
Remain
HYUFD
Pulpstar
DecrepitJohnL
Dura_Ace
The_Apocalypse
PClipp
Ian_B2
Beverley_C
OllyT
Alistair
WilliamGlenn
Felix
NickPalmer
GardenWalker
Topping
rkrkrk
Scott_P
Foxy
El_Capitano
Surby
JonathanD
Scrapheap_as_was
Benpointer
Slackbladder
TheScreamingEagles
AlastairMeeks
MikeSmithson
The Union Divvie
Rottenborough
Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
TorbyFennel
BigG
Leave
Morris Dancer
Charles
TGOHF
JonnyJimmy
MarqueeMark
DeClare
MaxPB
another_Richard
Casino_Royale
DavidL
SandyRentool
David_Evershed
bigjohnowls
tlg86
Philip_Thompson
Sean_F
Kle4
TykeJohno
Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.
Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
@Alanbrooke is also missing from Leave, as re those two Welsh posters. Edit: and @Ishmael_Z0 -
The referendum's over, so you want a people's vote survey instead?The_Apocalypse said:
The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.JonnyJimmy said:
The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
@Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.0 -
More stats about flippers and floppers.
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Yes, I think that's a very fair point. I consider myself to be on the right-wing of the Liberal Democrats so would consider myself a right of centre Remainer - even if only marginally right of centre.Sean_F said:
Sean T was also Leave.
I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,0 -
That might be true but she's never shared her vote and I entirely respect that.The_Apocalypse said:
The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.JonnyJimmy said:
The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
@Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.0 -
Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
MarkSenior Remain?0 -
Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.Benpointer said:
Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
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I’m saying that because IIRC she’s said on here that she voted to Leave.Pulpstar said:
That might be true but she's never shared her vote and I entirely respect that.The_Apocalypse said:
The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.JonnyJimmy said:
The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
@Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.
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I'm on here far too much but I've never seen that.The_Apocalypse said:
I’m saying that because IIRC she’s said on here that she voted to Leave.Pulpstar said:
That might be true but she's never shared her vote and I entirely respect that.The_Apocalypse said:
The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.JonnyJimmy said:
The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
@Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.0 -
It’d be interesting to find out where we all stand at the moment.JonnyJimmy said:
The referendum's over, so you want a people's vote survey instead?The_Apocalypse said:
The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.JonnyJimmy said:
The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
@Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.0 -
PB Trots?Gardenwalker said:
Can we have a (PbT) label appended to the you-know-whos?Pulpstar said:
Expanded now to include anyone I can remember posts here regularlyTykejohnno said:
Are you still going by the last two threads ?Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.0 -
Ah - apols, I didn't know that.Pulpstar said:
Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.Benpointer said:
Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
MarkSenior Remain?0 -
aw shucks GWGardenwalker said:
I thought the Jews remark was particularly obnoxious.Cyclefree said:Anazina said:Garden Walker
You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.
BBB – Bring Back Beverley
She was not kicked out. She chose to go. Because of some rather offensive comments about what the Irish did during WW2 which seemed OTT and unnecessary. I hope she comes back. But it's her call.
As for WW2, it just shows how dementedly stuck in the past some of the PB Tories are.
Frankly, the world would be much shitter without the Irish.
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Can you add a column for Russian stooges for LuckyGuy?Pulpstar said:
Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.Benpointer said:
Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
MarkSenior Remain?0 -
Mr. Pulpstar, ha, I've sometimes had fun playing the "Find the bet I made nine months ago" game.
On GDPR, sounds like the VATmess and the antiquities legislation that Mr. Mortimer is less than thrilled about. What's the name of the bureaucratic Jamaican in Futurama? It does sometimes feel like the EU cloned him, accidentally lobotomising all the clones.0 -
Agreed - I believe a few have switched Remain to Leave on the "it's will of the people" argument. (Not I though!)The_Apocalypse said:
It’d be interesting to find out where we all stance at the moment.JonnyJimmy said:
The referendum's over, so you want a people's vote survey instead?The_Apocalypse said:
The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.JonnyJimmy said:
The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
@Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.0 -
Sadly, we don’t seem to have a single Leave to Remain switch.Benpointer said:
Agreed - I believe a few have switched Remain to Leave on the "it's will of the people" argument. (Not I though!)The_Apocalypse said:
It’d be interesting to find out where we all stance at the moment.JonnyJimmy said:
The referendum's over, so you want a people's vote survey instead?The_Apocalypse said:
The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.JonnyJimmy said:
The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
@Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.
Hopefully Big G will delight us when he returns from the Med, although in his case it will be switching *back*.0 -
Torby_Fennel said:
Yes, I think that's a very fair point. I consider myself to be on the right-wing of the Liberal Democrats so would consider myself a right of centre Remainer - even if only marginally right of centre.Sean_F said:
Sean T was also Leave.
I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,
In my experience, it's much more common to read social media in which left wing voters get berated by other left wingers for voting against the social democracy provided by the EU, rather than blogs such as this where right wing Leavers get criticised for voting against the interests of the City and multinationals.Torby_Fennel said:
Yes, I think that's a very fair point. I consider myself to be on the right-wing of the Liberal Democrats so would consider myself a right of centre Remainer - even if only marginally right of centre.Sean_F said:
Sean T was also Leave.
I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,0 -
When I posted down thread I did say the word "recent" stick to your guns pulstar and only posters you have seen on here in the last few months.Pulpstar said:
Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.Benpointer said:
Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
MarkSenior Remain?
Otherwise we will have a majority leave just like the referendum if you count everyone who post here.
Two of the above posters are banned.0 -
I would vote Remain in a second Referendum but would prefer to accept the original result. It just seems like cheating otherwise. In my defence the result has cost me financially - as the Spanish don't say 'C'est la vie'The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
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Indeed. A few in the "given the way the government are cocking Brexit up, we might as well have stayed in" camp though... which I read as "I realise I got it wrong but I'm going to blame HMG"Gardenwalker said:
Sadly, we don’t seem to have a single Leave to Remain switch.Benpointer said:
Agreed - I believe a few have switched Remain to Leave on the "it's will of the people" argument. (Not I though!)The_Apocalypse said:
It’d be interesting to find out where we all stance at the moment.JonnyJimmy said:
The referendum's over, so you want a people's vote survey instead?The_Apocalypse said:
The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.JonnyJimmy said:
The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
@Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.
Hopefully Big G will delight us when he returns from the Med, although in his case it will be switching *back*.0 -
A day at the dogs and PB Tories are back to their bad old ways . I wrote a congratulatory post to Beverley this morning on being the first person able to explain why we were all getting emails asking us to tick boxes urgently but I got distracted and didn't send.
Come back Bev. We're short of clever people who zig when everyone else zags.
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If there's one thing on PB which seems to have accelerated in recent years it's how party allegiance really doesn't mean much any more.Sean_F said:Torby_Fennel said:
Yes, I think that's a very fair point. I consider myself to be on the right-wing of the Liberal Democrats so would consider myself a right of centre Remainer - even if only marginally right of centre.Sean_F said:
Sean T was also Leave.
I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,
In my experience, it's much more common to read social media in which left wing voters get berated by other left wingers for voting against the social democracy provided by the EU, rather than blogs such as this where right wing Leavers get criticised for voting against the interests of the City and multinationals.Torby_Fennel said:
Yes, I think that's a very fair point. I consider myself to be on the right-wing of the Liberal Democrats so would consider myself a right of centre Remainer - even if only marginally right of centre.Sean_F said:
Sean T was also Leave.
I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,
I found it curious that BevC who I would have described as more of a centrist suddenly jumped into a smash the state, break the mould advocate. Oddly no different from myself in many ways but she jumped left whereas I jumped right. Hence my main motivation for voting Leave.0 -
Nice way to lower the tone.Anazina said:
The neobrexiteers who do whatever The Party tells them to.The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
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Are they? Which two?Tykejohnno said:
When I posted down thread I did say the word "recent" stick to your guns pulstar and only posters you have seen on here in the last few months.Pulpstar said:
Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.Benpointer said:
Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
MarkSenior Remain?
Otherwise we will have a majority leave just like the referendum if you count everyone who post here.
Two of the above posters are banned.0 -
OT, A little dig from Scotland, courtesy of the Sustainable Growth Commission's report:
3.122 We strongly recommend that the tone and approach of Scotland to the rest of the UK in
those discussions should be informed by the recent and on-going difficulties created by the
UK Government’s approach to Brexit negotiations.0 -
isam and nigelforengland.Benpointer said:
Are they? Which two?Tykejohnno said:
When I posted down thread I did say the word "recent" stick to your guns pulstar and only posters you have seen on here in the last few months.Pulpstar said:
Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.Benpointer said:
Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
MarkSenior Remain?
Otherwise we will have a majority leave just like the referendum if you count everyone who post here.
Two of the above posters are banned.0 -
well that should disappoint mot of their supporterssarissa said:OT, A little dig from Scotland, courtesy of the Sustainable Growth Commission's report:
3.122 We strongly recommend that the tone and approach of Scotland to the rest of the UK in
those discussions should be informed by the recent and on-going difficulties created by the
UK Government’s approach to Brexit negotiations.0 -
Off the top of my head, nigel4england and isam.Benpointer said:
Are they? Which two?Tykejohnno said:
When I posted down thread I did say the word "recent" stick to your guns pulstar and only posters you have seen on here in the last few months.Pulpstar said:
Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.Benpointer said:
Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
MarkSenior Remain?
Otherwise we will have a majority leave just like the referendum if you count everyone who post here.
Two of the above posters are banned.0 -
No chance of that while the SNP are in charge.sarissa said:OT, A little dig from Scotland, courtesy of the Sustainable Growth Commission's report:
3.122 We strongly recommend that the tone and approach of Scotland to the rest of the UK in
those discussions should be informed by the recent and on-going difficulties created by the
UK Government’s approach to Brexit negotiations.0 -
Not really. I think you are a bit oversensitive to be honest.felix said:
Nice way to lower the tone.Anazina said:
The neobrexiteers who do whatever The Party tells them to.The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
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ThanksRobD said:
Off the top of my head, nigel4england and isam.Benpointer said:
Are they? Which two?Tykejohnno said:
When I posted down thread I did say the word "recent" stick to your guns pulstar and only posters you have seen on here in the last few months.Pulpstar said:
Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.Benpointer said:
Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
MarkSenior Remain?
Otherwise we will have a majority leave just like the referendum if you count everyone who post here.
Two of the above posters are banned.
@Pulpstar I agree it makes sense to exclude those no longer posting or banned. Thanks once again for the list.0 -
...And patronising - you're on a roll !Anazina said:
Not really. I think you are a bit oversensitive to be honest.felix said:
Nice way to lower the tone.Anazina said:
The neobrexiteers who do whatever The Party tells them to.The_Apocalypse said:Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
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Congratulations!AlastairMeeks said:I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
@Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.0 -
This country would be in the shits if it wasn't for our Irish military leadership of ww2.Alanbrooke said:
aw shucks GWGardenwalker said:
I thought the Jews remark was particularly obnoxious.Cyclefree said:Anazina said:Garden Walker
You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.
BBB – Bring Back Beverley
She was not kicked out. She chose to go. Because of some rather offensive comments about what the Irish did during WW2 which seemed OTT and unnecessary. I hope she comes back. But it's her call.
As for WW2, it just shows how dementedly stuck in the past some of the PB Tories are.
Frankly, the world would be much shitter without the Irish.
I didn't know you cared0 -
I'm a Leaver.Benpointer said:
Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
MarkSenior Remain?
I was unsure during the EUref but I'm much more sure now.
The EU is intransigent, anti-democratic, elitist, out of touch and incapable of sensible compromise. All things I dislike.
I do think Theresa May* is shit though. Always have done; always will.
*Shit**, but not dangerous. I think Corbyn is dangerous.
**It is, though, rarely remarked upon that the Tories polling vote share under May has been consistently 10% above Cameron's. Such is the strange world we live in.0 -
Only twice?RoyalBlue said:
Congratulations!AlastairMeeks said:I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
@Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.0 -
PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemainRoyalBlue said:
Congratulations!AlastairMeeks said:I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
@Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.0 -
well if the abortion vote surprises and is a No I suspect we'll be less cuddly in metropolitan circles than at present :-)Tykejohnno said:
This country would be in the shits if it wasn't for our Irish military leadership of ww2.Alanbrooke said:
aw shucks GWGardenwalker said:
I thought the Jews remark was particularly obnoxious.Cyclefree said:Anazina said:Garden Walker
You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.
BBB – Bring Back Beverley
She was not kicked out. She chose to go. Because of some rather offensive comments about what the Irish did during WW2 which seemed OTT and unnecessary. I hope she comes back. But it's her call.
As for WW2, it just shows how dementedly stuck in the past some of the PB Tories are.
Frankly, the world would be much shitter without the Irish.
I didn't know you cared0 -
A = UKIPFenster said:
I'm a Leaver.Benpointer said:
Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
MarkSenior Remain?
I was unsure during the EUref but I'm much more sure now.
The EU is intransigent, anti-democratic, elitist, out of touch and incapable of sensible compromise. All things I dislike.
I do think Theresa May* is shit though. Always have done; always will.
*Shit**, but not dangerous. I think Corbyn is dangerous.
**It is, though, rarely remarked upon that the Tories polling vote share under May has been consistently 10% above Cameron's. Such is the strange world we live in.0 -
52% versus 48% ?Benpointer said:
PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemainRoyalBlue said:
Congratulations!AlastairMeeks said:I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
@Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
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Are we expecting an exit poll? If so, when?Alanbrooke said:
well if the abortion vote surprises and is a No I suspect we'll be less cuddly in metropolitan circles than at present :-)Tykejohnno said:
This country would be in the shits if it wasn't for our Irish military leadership of ww2.Alanbrooke said:
aw shucks GWGardenwalker said:
I thought the Jews remark was particularly obnoxious.Cyclefree said:Anazina said:Garden Walker
You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.
BBB – Bring Back Beverley
She was not kicked out. She chose to go. Because of some rather offensive comments about what the Irish did during WW2 which seemed OTT and unnecessary. I hope she comes back. But it's her call.
As for WW2, it just shows how dementedly stuck in the past some of the PB Tories are.
Frankly, the world would be much shitter without the Irish.
I didn't know you cared0 -
Lovely to see the PM with so many MPs and spads at Lords this afternoon. Not as if the Government has much to do at the moment. - Tom Newton Dunn, sounding rather bitter and being childish.0
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Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers.Alanbrooke said:
52% versus 48% ?Benpointer said:
PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemainRoyalBlue said:
Congratulations!AlastairMeeks said:I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
@Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.0 -
Must be very close to that. Just shows what a representative bunch we are, eh?Alanbrooke said:
52% versus 48% ?Benpointer said:
PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemainRoyalBlue said:
Congratulations!AlastairMeeks said:I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
@Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.0 -
Not wanting to speak ill of the dead, Mark Senior was very good indeed on local LibDemmery, lost it somewhat when talking of their prospects nationally - and famously lost a gold sovereign betting against there being a recession in 2007/08!Pulpstar said:
Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.Benpointer said:
Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
MarkSenior Remain?0 -
I reluctantly voted remain, and if there was to be another referendum, with the same question, I'd more firmly vote remain.
However, trying to make my little website GDPR compatible (and even trying to work out if I should) is rather putting me off the EU ...0 -
I am at 38 remain vs 41 leave at present.RobD said:
Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers.Alanbrooke said:
52% versus 48% ?Benpointer said:
PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemainRoyalBlue said:
Congratulations!AlastairMeeks said:I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
@Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.0 -
52% is a swarm imo!RobD said:
Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers.Alanbrooke said:
52% versus 48% ?Benpointer said:
PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemainRoyalBlue said:
Congratulations!AlastairMeeks said:I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
@Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.0 -
Contrary to what people think I've definitely added more 'leavers of yore' than remainers who haven't posted recently.0
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I suspect there will be one later tonight no idea when, polls don't close until10pmBenpointer said:
Are we expecting an exit poll? If so, when?Alanbrooke said:
well if the abortion vote surprises and is a No I suspect we'll be less cuddly in metropolitan circles than at present :-)Tykejohnno said:
This country would be in the shits if it wasn't for our Irish military leadership of ww2.Alanbrooke said:
aw shucks GWGardenwalker said:
I thought the Jews remark was particularly obnoxious.Cyclefree said:Anazina said:Garden Walker
You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.
BBB – Bring Back Beverley
She was not kicked out. She chose to go. Because of some rather offensive comments about what the Irish did during WW2 which seemed OTT and unnecessary. I hope she comes back. But it's her call.
As for WW2, it just shows how dementedly stuck in the past some of the PB Tories are.
Frankly, the world would be much shitter without the Irish.
I didn't know you cared0 -
51.9% Leave! We're doomed!Pulpstar said:
I am at 38 remain vs 41 leave at present.RobD said:
Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers.Alanbrooke said:
52% versus 48% ?Benpointer said:
PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemainRoyalBlue said:
Congratulations!AlastairMeeks said:I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
@Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.0 -
Over-infested was the lovely term @Gardenwalker used earlier.RobD said:
Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers.Alanbrooke said:
52% versus 48% ?Benpointer said:
PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemainRoyalBlue said:
Congratulations!AlastairMeeks said:I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
@Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
Because plain infested really wouldn't have said it strongly enough.
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Here are another eleven leavers (I think. I hope it is not libellous to name someone as a leaver)Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
Cornish Blue
Indigo
John_N
LewisDuckworth
LucyJones
MalcolmG
MP-SE
NorfolkTillDie
runnymeade
TCPoliticalBetting
ThreeQuidder0 -
And 48% is a tiny repressed minority squirming under the PB Tory jackboot?Benpointer said:
52% is a swarm imo!RobD said:
Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers.Alanbrooke said:
52% versus 48% ?Benpointer said:
PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemainRoyalBlue said:
Congratulations!AlastairMeeks said:I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
@Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.0 -
We only swarm to mark special anniversaries, like the sinking of the Belgrano.RobD said:
Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers.Alanbrooke said:
52% versus 48% ?Benpointer said:
PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemainRoyalBlue said:
Congratulations!AlastairMeeks said:I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
@Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
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F1: Twitter rumbling about avoiding the hypersofts being a big advantage due to them graining.0
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Do you only keep track of Leavers?Barnesian said:
Here are another eleven leavers (I think. I hope it is not libellous to name someone as a leaver)Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
Cornish Blue
Indigo
John_N
LewisDuckworth
LucyJones
MalcolmG
MP-SE
NorfolkTillDie
runnymeade
TCPoliticalBetting
ThreeQuidder0 -
NEW THREAD0
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I remember them well.RobD said:
Do you only keep track of Leavers?Barnesian said:
Here are another eleven leavers (I think. I hope it is not libellous to name someone as a leaver)Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
Cornish Blue
Indigo
John_N
LewisDuckworth
LucyJones
MalcolmG
MP-SE
NorfolkTillDie
runnymeade
TCPoliticalBetting
ThreeQuidder0 -
How sinister.Barnesian said:
I remember them well.RobD said:
Do you only keep track of Leavers?Barnesian said:
Here are another eleven leavers (I think. I hope it is not libellous to name someone as a leaver)Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
Cornish Blue
Indigo
John_N
LewisDuckworth
LucyJones
MalcolmG
MP-SE
NorfolkTillDie
runnymeade
TCPoliticalBetting
ThreeQuidder0 -
It's like when women make up 51% of the population but are a minorityRobD said:
And 48% is a tiny repressed minority squirming under the PB Tory jackboot?Benpointer said:
52% is a swarm imo!RobD said:
Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers.Alanbrooke said:
52% versus 48% ?Benpointer said:
PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemainRoyalBlue said:
Congratulations!AlastairMeeks said:I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
@Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.0 -
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Two people 11 usernames.RobD said:
Do you only keep track of Leavers?Barnesian said:
Here are another eleven leavers (I think. I hope it is not libellous to name someone as a leaver)Pulpstar said:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JCJKfNJO-H7nOFF9ijezqPsfjR9f7UJ5H-ZWZM-u2Pk/edit?usp=sharing
Up to 35 remain vs 29 leave.
Cornish Blue
Indigo
John_N
LewisDuckworth
LucyJones
MalcolmG
MP-SE
NorfolkTillDie
runnymeade
TCPoliticalBetting
ThreeQuidder0 -
I'm another remainder.0
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Rather sums up the difference between Northern and Southern Irish...Alanbrooke said:
If there's one thing on PB which seems to have accelerated in recent years it's how party allegiance really doesn't mean much any more.Sean_F said:Torby_Fennel said:
Yes, I think that's a very fair point. I consider myself to be on the right-wing of the Liberal Democrats so would consider myself a right of centre Remainer - even if only marginally right of centre.Sean_F said:
Sean T was also Leave.
I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,
In my experience, it's much more common to read social media in which left wing voters get berated by other left wingers for voting against the social democracy provided by the EU, rather than blogs such as this where right wing Leavers get criticised for voting against the interests of the City and multinationals.Torby_Fennel said:
Yes, I think that's a very fair point. I consider myself to be on the right-wing of the Liberal Democrats so would consider myself a right of centre Remainer - even if only marginally right of centre.Sean_F said:
Sean T was also Leave.
I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,
I found it curious that BevC who I would have described as more of a centrist suddenly jumped into a smash the state, break the mould advocate. Oddly no different from myself in many ways but she jumped left whereas I jumped right. Hence my main motivation for voting Leave.0 -
In the same or different fete this referendums*RoyalBlue said:
Congratulations!AlastairMeeks said:I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
@Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
* Or referenda. Whatever. Go knock yourself out0 -
Carlotta, HYUFD are loyal Party supporters. They will side whichever way their Leader goes.CarlottaVance said:0 -
"Since the referendum around 1.2m electors have died, while 1.4m have joined the electorate. If we extrapolate from YouGov’s data from the youngest and oldest voters, and take account of variations in turnout by age, then I reckon that around 600,000 Leave voters, and 300,000 Remain voters have died; while 650,000 young Remainers and 150,000 Leave supporters have joined the voting population. Combine these figures, and these demographic factors have given us 350,000 extra Remain voters and 450,000 fewer Leave voters."Gardenwalker said:More stats about flippers and floppers.
https://twitter.com/johnrentoul/status/1000025730049245184?s=210