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Thanks to Liverpool getting through to the Champion’s league final and the ongoing series of strikes on SNCF – the French railway system we have a problem this weekend running PB.

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  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    So long and thanks for all the fish
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,711
    Beverley_C said:

    So long and thanks for all the fish

    I've been out and haven't seen what's gone on, but if that's a permanent 'gone', then please don't go. Take a break if you need it (and I think mot of us need a break from PB every so often), but please come back. You'd be missed.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 52,764
    Beverley_C said:

    So long and thanks for all the fish

    Stick around. I am not a Corbynist, but would vote Labour if in a Constituency where they could depose the Tories. Roughly 40% of the population support Labour, so for @Cyclefree to suggest that 40% of the population support anti-semitism or misogyny shows that she has lost her usual acumen. All political parties have their darksides, but that should not prevent us from supporting other bits of their platform.
  • notmenotme Posts: 3,293
    Foxy said:

    Beverley_C said:

    So long and thanks for all the fish

    Stick around. I am not a Corbynist, but would vote Labour if in a Constituency where they could depose the Tories. Roughly 40% of the population support Labour, so for @Cyclefree to suggest that 40% of the population support anti-semitism or misogyny shows that she has lost her usual acumen. All political parties have their darksides, but that should not prevent us from supporting other bits of their platform.
    True, all political parties do have their darksides. But with Labour, John Mcdonnell *is* the darkside! He is the madman.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    OGH - good luck with your train travel! Having booked a ticket for a strike day in June I was delighted to see my train is still on sale - though two alternatives are "not available" SNCF have said bookable trains will be running - so fingers crossed- booked in advance first class train travel in Europe is remarkably affordable!
  • notmenotme Posts: 3,293
    FPT
    NickPalmer said:

    HYUFD said:



    If Corbyn gets in he will be the UK Hollande, I expect the Tories would soon build up a big poll lead and unless the centre left finds a Macron, maybe Umunna?, to replace him the Tories would comfortably win the next general election

    Possibly. Initially I think he'd do quite well, as people found he wasn't the madman that the Mail and Sun had built him up to be. By mid-term the difficulties of meeting expectations without upsetting the applecart would be challenging.

    But all these things are part of democratic change, as Beverley suggests. People try one thing, then another. Parties respond in one way, then adjust. A situation where an exhausted party hangs on indefinitely on the basis of "but the others might be worse" is fundamentally unhealthy, not only for democracy but also for the parties in question. The Tories really need a period to think what they're about. Labour really needs to try some socialist government and either find it works or find it doesn't. Britain needs both to come up with credible long-term alternatives.
    The issues of expectations is going to hit hard very quickly. His position is never about priorities. It's alway about where a labour government is going to spend more, in some cases substantially more, but theres never a downside or an acknowledgement that politics is managing priorities. The nebulous "we'll make the international tax cheating corporations pay" would never survive serious scrutiny and most certainly wouldnt materialise in the Treasury.

    Yes, you could gain a bit extra from lopping a few pence on income tax and extending ni further up the income scale. But if you have a programme that involves increasing expenditure right across the public services you are going to need a lot more than that.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,866
    FPT: Just been out. Rather depressing turn of the discourse in the interim.

    Mrs C, I do hope you come back.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    JosiasJessop said:

    Beverley_C said:

    So long and thanks for all the fish

    I've been out and haven't seen what's gone on, but if that's a permanent 'gone', then please don't go. Take a break if you need it (and I think mot of us need a break from PB every so often), but please come back. You'd be missed.
    +1.
  • JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548
    Foxy said:

    Beverley_C said:

    So long and thanks for all the fish

    Stick around. I am not a Corbynist, but would vote Labour if in a Constituency where they could depose the Tories. Roughly 40% of the population support Labour, so for @Cyclefree to suggest that 40% of the population support anti-semitism or misogyny shows that she has lost her usual acumen. All political parties have their darksides, but that should not prevent us from supporting other bits of their platform.
    But 52% of people support xenophobia because of a poster?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 44,897
    I see the types that were first to chuck around accusations of misogyny and bullying when it came to the likes of Plato seem to have put on a different hat today.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,422
    FPT:
    Beverley_C said:

    TGOHF said:

    Beverley_C said:

    MaxPB said:

    I just hope Beverly_C doesn't have any Jews in her family.

    Oh nice one. What's next for me? Asking how many swastikas I have on my walls?

    Fuck off
    It's a fair question - Irish republicans took advantage of both world wars - in WW2 supporting a fascist German regime.

    As for fascists, this place is beginning to feel like it might have a few spare.

    I'm done here
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,738
    Sad to see @Beverley_C leave PB. I do wish that she would remain.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,738
    Good luck to TSE tomorrow night, and hope OGH gets his train on time!
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,451

    FPT, I find this government inept, politically correct, and addicted to petty regulation, but otherwise, it does no harm to me or mine.

    With Corbyn in power, I'd get all of the above in spades, plus big tax increases, plus lunacy on defence and security.

    So, I find it an easy choice to decide which party to support.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 66,593
    The_Apocalypse said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Beverley_C said:

    So long and thanks for all the fish

    I've been out and haven't seen what's gone on, but if that's a permanent 'gone', then please don't go. Take a break if you need it (and I think mot of us need a break from PB every so often), but please come back. You'd be missed.
    +1.
    I am on a cruise ship in Mykonos and have another 8 days before arriving back in Barcelona. Just reading the threads from time to time and see little has changed but everyone should be relaxed and not feel intimidated about contributing

    Travelling through Europe does raise thoughts on Brexit for me but right now it is great to be enjoying lovely weather, food, relaxation and BBC World News showing how irrelevant they are

    Will provide my thoughts and instincts in due course

    Be kind to one another

  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,470
    edited May 2018
    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    Everyone is free to stay or go as they wish. I'm trying to think why you'd use the term 'infested' with regard to a group of human beings. Ah I've got it - wasn't there someone on QT last week wearing a t-shirt which likened Tories to rats. Language is so important is it not?
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    Beverley_C said:

    So long and thanks for all the fish

    I've been out and haven't seen what's gone on, but if that's a permanent 'gone', then please don't go. Take a break if you need it (and I think mot of us need a break from PB every so often), but please come back. You'd be missed.
    +1.
    I am on a cruise ship in Mykonos and have another 8 days before arriving back in Barcelona. Just reading the threads from time to time and see little has changed but everyone should be relaxed and not feel intimidated about contributing

    Travelling through Europe does raise thoughts on Brexit for me but right now it is great to be enjoying lovely weather, food, relaxation and BBC World News showing how irrelevant they are

    Will provide my thoughts and instincts in due course

    Be kind to one another

    Glad to hear you’re having a good time Big G and hope the rest of your trip also goes well.

    Like Sunil, I wish the best of luck to TSE and OGH (re the train)!
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Beverley_C said:

    So long and thanks for all the fish

    Don’t go - your tales of domestic bliss are always uplifting

    Things get a bit tetchy from time to time. It won’t last - I think you’re making a mistake supporting Corbyn but it’s your right to do so :wink:
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,470
    felix said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    Everyone is free to stay or go as they wish. I'm trying to think why you'd use the term 'infested' with regard to a group of human beings. Ah I've got it - wasn't there someone on QT last week wearing a t-shirt which likened Tories to rats. Language is so important is it not?
    You picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
  • JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548
    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley

    She hasn't been fired ffs
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    TSE isn't even from Liverpool is he? what's up with glory hunters and people not supporting their local teams!
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,304
    Beverley_C said:

    So long and thanks for all the fish

    The first shall be last and the last shall be first.

    Please reconsider Beverley. The vast majority of us value your posts,and if some posters can't cope with your reasons for switching to Labour, they are the ones with a problem.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Gardenwalker said:

    felix said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    Everyone is free to stay or go as they wish. I'm trying to think why you'd use the term 'infested' with regard to a group of human beings. Ah I've got it - wasn't there someone on QT last week wearing a t-shirt which likened Tories to rats. Language is so important is it not?
    You picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
    Ah charming - nail - head- on.
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    Gardenwalker said:

    felix said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    Everyone is free to stay or go as they wish. I'm trying to think why you'd use the term 'infested' with regard to a group of human beings. Ah I've got it - wasn't there someone on QT last week wearing a t-shirt which likened Tories to rats. Language is so important is it not?
    You picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
    Gardenwalker said:

    felix said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    Everyone is free to stay or go as they wish. I'm trying to think why you'd use the term 'infested' with regard to a group of human beings. Ah I've got it - wasn't there someone on QT last week wearing a t-shirt which likened Tories to rats. Language is so important is it not?
    You picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
    Problem is lots of trolls joined the site post or in the run up to the EU ref and just spout nonsense to the point where the discourse is similar to that on twitter. I do miss the days from a few years ago where everyone was engaged but happy not to aggressively get their point across. Corbyn has obviously missed his best chance to govern but I wonder if his most passionate supporters will still be here in a year or two when Labour find a better leader.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley

    It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Brom said:

    TSE isn't even from Liverpool is he? what's up with glory hunters and people not supporting their local teams!

    Good question – lots of glory grabbers on here. Man Utd fans from Scotland. Liverpool fans from Derbyshire, and Saudi Arabia.
  • Torby_FennelTorby_Fennel Posts: 438
    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    As a remainer, my perception is that the balance of posters on the site is slightly more Leavery than the general population but not wildly out of line.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 23,304
    Tykejohnno said:

    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley

    It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.
    Don't you mean 'floating voter' plato?
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    SandyRentool said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley

    It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.
    Don't you mean 'floating voter' plato?
    Didn't she join the Tory ranks with membership ?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,866
    Mr. Johnno, not sure but it's worth pointing out many members have been here for a decade or more. Changing one's mind over that period of time isn't unusual.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,027
    edited May 2018
    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 30,524
    Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
    People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
    But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
    Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,718
    Foxy said:

    Beverley_C said:

    So long and thanks for all the fish

    Stick around. I am not a Corbynist, but would vote Labour if in a Constituency where they could depose the Tories. Roughly 40% of the population support Labour, so for @Cyclefree to suggest that 40% of the population support anti-semitism or misogyny shows that she has lost her usual acumen. All political parties have their darksides, but that should not prevent us from supporting other bits of their platform.

    Do not misquote me. I said this:-

    "I do not wish to endorse the current government. But unlike you I do not wish to endorse an alternative which I consider to be even worse. Corbyn and his coterie are beyond the pale for me. To use Mr Meeks’s approach: those who cannot abide the xenophobic lies which led to Brexit and decide to vote Labour to punish the Tories will be, whether they like it or not, endorsing the anti-Jewish racism of Corbyn’s Labour party. I am not going to play any part in substituting one form of xenophobia with another."

    The key phrase is "whether they like it or not".

    You may not like my analysis just as many on here do not like it when Mr Meeks points out the same thing with regard to the Leave vote. But when you vote Labour that vote will be taken by the Labour leadership as support for them. And the Labour leadership, Barnet and a few other areas nothwithstanding, are calculating that relatively few voters care about the anti-semitism issue and so they don't need to do anything about it. Your attitude shows that they are right in that cynical - if immoral - calculation. If we do end up getting a government with an anti-Jewish bias then it will be those who vote for that government who will be responsible - and for everything that will entail - even if they would like to persuade themselves that they did not support that bit.

    As for misogyny, yes I do take seriously threats of violence against women and women in public life. If others don't and if the Shadow Chancellor doesn't then I am bloody well going to call him out on it and others who turn a blind eye to such stuff.

    Still, it's useful to know that people are against racism and sexism up until the point when they vote for a party some of whose members are both openly racist and sexist and then these terrible sins become something that you can ignore.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Torby_Fennel said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    As a remainer, my perception is that the balance of posters on the site is slightly more Leavery than the general population but not wildly out of line.
    I suspect you have more federalists and my re crashers than elsewhere. Overall a slight liberal-centre bias but a few sensible Tories (and some less sensible ones as well)
  • anothernickanothernick Posts: 3,591
    Torby_Fennel said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    As a remainer, my perception is that the balance of posters on the site is slightly more Leavery than the general population but not wildly out of line.
    But it's not as leavery as it was - leavers are beginning to fall by the wayside as their promises of a simple, cost-free, "have our cake and eat it" Brexit have, shall we say, become rather problematic recently.
  • surbysurby Posts: 1,227
    What led to Bev_C leaving ? Clearly, she is upset.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,718
    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley


    She was not kicked out. She chose to go. Because of some rather offensive comments about what the Irish did during WW2 which seemed OTT and unnecessary. I hope she comes back. But it's her call.
  • David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    I voted for maximum free trade as over time this generates the most wealth for the most people. See how the poor in China and other countries in Asia have benefitted from increased free trade.
  • surbysurby Posts: 1,227
    Pulpstar said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
    HYUFD will support whatever T May will do. To say HYUFD is a Remain supporter is stretching things a very long way!
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,470
    Certainly it’s not “cool” to Leave anymore, ie the sheer insanity of it is becoming obvious.

    The only arguments left are:
    - but, immigration
    - it was the will of the people so we must do it
    - we’re different coz common law, feet & inches etc
    - it’ll be alright in 100 years (Charles)
  • JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548
    surby said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
    HYUFD will support whatever T May will do. To say HYUFD is a Remain supporter is stretching things a very long way!
    Pulpstar said "vote in the referendum", not supporter.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,027
    surby said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
    HYUFD will support whatever T May will do. To say HYUFD is a Remain supporter is stretching things a very long way!
    When it came to the crunch, HYUFD voted remain in the EU ref unlike most Tory members.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Pulpstar said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
    Top job pulp. ;-)
  • David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    Beverley_C said:

    So long and thanks for all the fish


    Please stay. We need more Douglas Adams fans.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,470
    edited May 2018
    Cyclefree said:

    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley


    She was not kicked out. She chose to go. Because of some rather offensive comments about what the Irish did during WW2 which seemed OTT and unnecessary. I hope she comes back. But it's her call.
    I thought the Jews remark was particularly obnoxious.

    As for WW2, it just shows how dementedly stuck in the past some of the PB Tories are.

    Frankly, the world would be much shitter without the Irish.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,800
    Pulpstar said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:
    Actually I voted leave, but only the basis (generally) that i don't want to be part of the politicial structure. The economic structure and the single market i'm kind of ok with.

    Mind you, some days i'm like 'f*** the EU, lets go it alone', and then most days i'm 'Lets get the best deal possible and focus then on other needed things'.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,816
    Pulpstar said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
    Interesting lists. The only way to settle the deep divide now before we all go Yugoslav on each is a game of Chardee MacDennis.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,027
    @Slackbladder My apologies !
  • surbysurby Posts: 1,227
    dixiedean said:

    Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
    People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
    But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
    Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

    tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,470
    edited May 2018
    Tykejohnno said:

    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley

    It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.
    Plato was certifiable.
    No wonder she’s also been banned from Twitter.

    The number of true loons on here is I think almost zero. Finchley Road is still a thing, but that was funny rather than obsessive compulsive which Plato was.
  • surbysurby Posts: 1,227
    Gardenwalker said:

    Certainly it’s not “cool” to Leave anymore, ie the sheer insanity of it is becoming obvious.

    The only arguments left are:
    - but, immigration
    - it was the will of the people so we must do it
    - we’re different coz common law, feet & inches etc
    - it’ll be alright in 100 years (Charles)

    You missed out the most important one -pints!
  • David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    Anazina said:

    Brom said:

    TSE isn't even from Liverpool is he? what's up with glory hunters and people not supporting their local teams!

    Good question – lots of glory grabbers on here. Man Utd fans from Scotland. Liverpool fans from Derbyshire, and Saudi Arabia.
    How many Man United fans does it take to change a light bulb?

    One to change the bulb and one to drive him up fom Surrey.

  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    surby said:

    dixiedean said:

    Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
    People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
    But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
    Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

    tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

    Plato is a man.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,451
    Tykejohnno said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
    Top job pulp. ;-)
    I think Carlotta Vance was Remain, and Wulfrun Phil and Tissue Price were leave.
  • David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    Anazina said:

    surby said:

    dixiedean said:

    Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
    People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
    But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
    Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

    tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

    Plato is a man.
    Plato is whatever he/she defines himself/herself as.
  • surbysurby Posts: 1,227
    Tykejohnno said:

    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley

    It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.
    "Tory" is the most respectable description you can use about Plato. The correct description is way, way, further to the Right!
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,470
    So Aaron Banks, Ivan Rogers and Dominic Cummings all agree: Brexit is a disaster.

    Time to cancel it.

    https://twitter.com/arron_banks/status/999741631652941825?s=21
  • surbysurby Posts: 1,227
    Anazina said:

    surby said:

    dixiedean said:

    Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
    People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
    But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
    Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

    tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

    Plato is a man.
    Not PB plato.
  • David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    Gardenwalker said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley

    It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.
    Plato was certifiable.
    No wonder she’s also been banned from Twitter.

    The number of true loons on here is I think almost zero. Finchley Road is still a thing, but that was funny rather than obsessive compulsive which Plato was.

    Mornington Crescent.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,738
    David_Evershed said:

    Anazina said:

    surby said:

    dixiedean said:

    Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
    People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
    But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
    Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

    tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

    Plato is a man.
    Plato is whatever he/she defines himself/herself as.
    I met her at a PB gathering a number of years ago. Definitely a "her"!
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,470
    edited May 2018
    surby said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Certainly it’s not “cool” to Leave anymore, ie the sheer insanity of it is becoming obvious.

    The only arguments left are:
    - but, immigration
    - it was the will of the people so we must do it
    - we’re different coz common law, feet & inches etc
    - it’ll be alright in 100 years (Charles)

    You missed out the most important one -pints!
    Yep. But the evil mafioso octopus tentacled Euro-bureaucrats in Brussels allowed us to keep those, to taunt us with reminders of our former imperial majesty.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,866
    There have always been some trolls/astroturfers here (old timers may recall Coldstone). It would be slightly surprising if there weren't any right now. Regardless, being civil is a good habit to adopt.
  • surbysurby Posts: 1,227
    Gardenwalker said:

    So Aaron Banks, Ivan Rogers and Dominic Cummings all agree: Brexit is a disaster.

    Time to cancel it.

    https://twitter.com/arron_banks/status/999741631652941825?s=21

    Should we have a Bobby Ewing moment in the shower ?
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    surby said:

    Anazina said:

    surby said:

    dixiedean said:

    Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
    People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
    But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
    Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

    tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

    Plato is a man.
    Not PB plato.
    The 'she' is a 'she' with a man's name?
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.
  • surbysurby Posts: 1,227
    Anazina said:

    surby said:

    Anazina said:

    surby said:

    dixiedean said:

    Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
    People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
    But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
    Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

    tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

    Plato is a man.
    Not PB plato.
    The 'she' is a 'she' with a man's name?
    Yes!
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,470
    surby said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    So Aaron Banks, Ivan Rogers and Dominic Cummings all agree: Brexit is a disaster.

    Time to cancel it.

    https://twitter.com/arron_banks/status/999741631652941825?s=21

    Should we have a Bobby Ewing moment in the shower ?
    Cancel the whole box set. Do not renew for a third season.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,738
    Pulpstar said:



    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !

    Sunil whistles innocently :)
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Pulpstar

    RCS1000 is a Leaver despite being the son of Mr Michael Smithson, host of PB and Remain Ultra.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Gardenwalker said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley

    It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.
    Plato was certifiable.
    No wonder she’s also been banned from Twitter.

    The number of true loons on here is I think almost zero. Finchley Road is still a thing, but that was funny rather than obsessive compulsive which Plato was.
    Come on Mr Walker,obsessive and compulsive are two words I can use for a number of pro EU fanatics on here ;-)

    If Theresa betrays my vote,I'm joining the loons ;-) some on here might say I already have ;-)
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    surby said:

    Anazina said:

    surby said:

    Anazina said:

    surby said:

    dixiedean said:

    Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
    People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
    But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
    Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

    tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

    Plato is a man.
    Not PB plato.
    The 'she' is a 'she' with a man's name?
    Yes!
    Okay........
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,738
    Anazina said:

    surby said:

    Anazina said:

    surby said:

    dixiedean said:

    Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
    People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
    But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
    Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

    tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

    Plato is a man.
    Not PB plato.
    The 'she' is a 'she' with a man's name?
    It's her cat's name, allegedly!
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    AlastairMeeks said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.


    Congratulations. North Essex is stunningly beautiful. Dedham Vale is one of the best places in the world to bob about on a boat clutching a cold glass of a sunny Saturday.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Sean_F said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
    Top job pulp. ;-)
    I think Carlotta Vance was Remain, and Wulfrun Phil and Tissue Price were leave.
    Think you could be right.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Gardenwalker said:

    Certainly it’s not “cool” to Leave anymore, ie the sheer insanity of it is becoming obvious.

    The only arguments left are:
    - but, immigration
    - it was the will of the people so we must do it
    - we’re different coz common law, feet & inches etc
    - it’ll be alright in 100 years (Charles)

    You’re misrepresenting me

    I just have faith in the British people to make a go of it
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Anazina said:

    surby said:

    Anazina said:

    surby said:

    dixiedean said:

    Come back Beverley. Missed what happened, but would appeal, generally, for more tolerance and understanding for opposing viewpoints.
    People get heated, and robust debate is of course good.
    But it should not spill over to the point where people with differing views don't feel welcome to post here.
    Ps, that applies to Plato, too, who I was sorry to see go, despite never agreeing with her.

    tim was very unfairly labelled a misogynist because he quite rightly called out Plato for what she really is. I am sure tim would have been equally critical of Plato, if he was a man.

    Plato is a man.
    Not PB plato.
    The 'she' is a 'she' with a man's name?
    It's her cat's name, allegedly!
    So this woman is named after her male cat.

    Grist to Garden's mill I feel...
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 46,711
    AlastairMeeks said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Good luck in your new home. How long's your commute going to be, or will you be slacking it by working from home? ;)
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,470
    AlastairMeeks said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations! Have you sold your place on Islington / Hackney borders? Or did you keep it like the lucky blighters here:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5769043/A-house-city-country-abroad-new-middle-class-boast.html
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Re the Remain/Leave list, Southam is also a Remainer and Cyclefree also voted to Leave (although IIRC she’s not been too happy with the way the government have been handling Brexit!) tyson is another Remainer as well.

    I remember Plato back when she wasn’t all Trumpy. She was normal Tory, and easy to talk to - she was the reason why I started to watch ITVbe back then as well (she recommended a show to me). And then she became a massive Trump supporter, and it all went down hill from there. I didn’t know she was banned from Twitter.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,470
    Charles said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Certainly it’s not “cool” to Leave anymore, ie the sheer insanity of it is becoming obvious.

    The only arguments left are:
    - but, immigration
    - it was the will of the people so we must do it
    - we’re different coz common law, feet & inches etc
    - it’ll be alright in 100 years (Charles)

    You’re misrepresenting me

    I just have faith in the British people to make a go of it
    Faith-based policymaking. Cool.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,245
    Pulpstar said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
    So, Richard Tyndall and I aren't even worthy of mention. (Sobs quietly.)
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    JosiasJessop said:

    AlastairMeeks said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Good luck in your new home. How long's your commute going to be, or will you be slacking it by working from home? ;)
    It's just over an hour, door to door. I suspect I'll be working from home a fair bit (the new place has a very practical office). However, I'm keeping my flat in London for the moment, just in case the commute doesn't suit me.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 61,245
    Pulpstar also forgot:

    Fuck this referendum, nuke Brussels:
    archer101au
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
    So, Richard Tyndall and I aren't even worthy of mention. (Sobs quietly.)
    Robert,I think pulp went by posters on the last two threads,sorry if you did post before pulp did the servey.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,027
    AlastairMeeks said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    AlastairMeeks said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Good luck in your new home. How long's your commute going to be, or will you be slacking it by working from home? ;)
    It's just over an hour, door to door. I suspect I'll be working from home a fair bit (the new place has a very practical office). However, I'm keeping my flat in London for the moment, just in case the commute doesn't suit me.
    Congratulations on exchange !
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,470
    edited May 2018
    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
    So, Richard Tyndall and I aren't even worthy of mention. (Sobs quietly.)
    That survey is a swizz.
    @Alanbrooke is also missing from Leave, as re those two Welsh posters. Edit: and @Ishmael_Z
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/AndrewSparrow/status/1000025361839685640
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,630
    Pulpstar said:

    AlastairMeeks said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    AlastairMeeks said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Good luck in your new home. How long's your commute going to be, or will you be slacking it by working from home? ;)
    It's just over an hour, door to door. I suspect I'll be working from home a fair bit (the new place has a very practical office). However, I'm keeping my flat in London for the moment, just in case the commute doesn't suit me.
    Congratulations on exchange !
    I liked your Remain / Leave list Pulpstar (I like lists!) Any chance of updating it based on this thread to add in the few peripheral posters(:wink:) you originally overlooked? Please?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,678
    Scott_P said:

    twitter.com/AndrewSparrow/status/1000025361839685640

    Why don't the topline figures on the remain/leave polls show this? Surely 30% of Labour leave would be a noticeable amount?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,630
    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar also forgot:

    Fuck this referendum, nuke Brussels:
    archer101au


    Which side should he/she be?

    :smile:
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,630
    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley

    It wasn't good for a female Tory on here like plato.
    Plato was certifiable.
    No wonder she’s also been banned from Twitter.

    The number of true loons on here is I think almost zero. Finchley Road is still a thing, but that was funny rather than obsessive compulsive which Plato was.
    Come on Mr Walker,obsessive and compulsive are two words I can use for a number of pro EU fanatics on here ;-)

    If Theresa betrays my vote,I'm joining the loons ;-) some on here might say I already have ;-)
    What's with the 'if'?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,027
    Scott_P said:

    https://twitter.com/AndrewSparrow/status/1000025361839685640

    I suspect we'll get the same sort of figures if Corbyn gets in. Nevertheless he'll have been voted in, and it'll be spilt milk and crying at that point.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 39,451
    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
    So, Richard Tyndall and I aren't even worthy of mention. (Sobs quietly.)
    Sean T was also Leave.

    I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,
  • surbysurby Posts: 1,227
    edited May 2018
    RobD said:

    Scott_P said:

    twitter.com/AndrewSparrow/status/1000025361839685640

    Why don't the topline figures on the remain/leave polls show this? Surely 30% of Labour leave would be a noticeable amount?
    If the Labour supporters split 70:30 Remain:Leave, then 30% of 30% is about 9%.

    Remember this 9% is of the Labour voters. Let's say 9% of 40% = 3.6% of the total.

    Yes, that is significant. However, a similar number of Tory "Remainers" have moved in the opposite direction.

    Just look at HYUFD, Carlotta here.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 80,027
    Sean_F said:



    I think Carlotta Vance was Remain, and Wulfrun Phil and Tissue Price were leave.

    Carlotta, can you confirm :) ?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Gardenwalker said:

    Charles said:

    Gardenwalker said:

    Certainly it’s not “cool” to Leave anymore, ie the sheer insanity of it is becoming obvious.

    The only arguments left are:
    - but, immigration
    - it was the will of the people so we must do it
    - we’re different coz common law, feet & inches etc
    - it’ll be alright in 100 years (Charles)

    You’re misrepresenting me

    I just have faith in the British people to make a go of it
    Faith-based policymaking. Cool.
    You do like misrepresenting me.

    That’s not what I said
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar also forgot:

    Fuck this referendum, nuke Brussels:
    archer101au

    I thought he was a remainer...?
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