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Now the call from reform on the other hand, has obvious merit, even if the sudden motivation behind it for some is very political.
Any Leavers care to comment on that particular quote?
Do pay attention.
Similarly, you would take a sensible ignoring of your silly pettiness as proof of your genius insight, and take a response like this to your silly pettiness of your genius insight.
I can’t speak for Mr Meeks, but I for one won’t be happy until our modern-day Frankenstein makers are prostrate on the ground weeping, “What have I done, what have I done?”
Meanwhile, you bleat that I’m beastly in drawing attention to this.
Hmmmmmmmm
What about the little gem put about by Sir Vince Cable that all the people who voted to leave the EU were horrible old racists and the sooner they all die off the better?
Or the idea put around a while back that old people should be deprived the vote because they won't be alive to suffer the consequences, etc.
Things have got very, very nasty - On BOTH sides.
You don't make laws in haste and you certainly don't make massive constitutional changes just because a chamber doesn't do what you want.
I don't want a fully elected second chamber because it will simply become a party political shouting chamber just like the Commons. I am not sure what the answer is yet but something where party affiliation was banned would be a good start. Maybe election from a pre determined group representing specific aspects of British life - science, industry, universities, trade unions, military etc. Also review what hey are able to do.
But don't do it now. Wait until this whole thing is over then come forward with sensible proposals.
Pathetic.
Labelling someone a traitor is to label them as acting against their country’s best interests. Far right extremism is a big enough problem already. It doesn’t need a national newspaper fanning that flame still further.
The current lobbing match between the Israelis and the Iranians/Syrians (depends on who you believe) continues this evening. Explosions now heard in Damascus.
Things are likely to continue for hours at least. Its about the heaviest shooting between the opposing forces in years.
Brexiters have no sense of humour. Yet another reason to wait earnestly for them to die off!
We've come a long way since 23rd June...
Goodnight.
But to be clear, I dissociate myself from any suggestion that Leavers are traitors and would condemn any serious suggestion to that effect. Leavers are deranged, deluded, far too comfortable with exploiting xenophobia for political gain, they are leading the country on a profoundly damaging course and in many cases they have no real sense of what’s entailed in a pluralist society, but they are not traitors.
https://twitter.com/GeorgeAylett/status/994239242581757953
They very rarely wear ermine, and frequently borrow it anyway.
Worrying mindset.
The sources familiar with the debate said Trump wanted a separate agreement with the other main signatories of the original deal — France, Britain, Germany, China and Russia. But Berlin said the agreement would have to be submitted to a European Union body for approval, and this appeared to stall the effort, they said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear-diplomacy/europe-licks-wounds-as-saudi-arabia-and-israel-hail-trump-on-iran-idUSKBN1IA38C
Which EU body & why?
Remour that the third Thurs in Oct is being earmarked for a GE if the Gvt loses the confidence vote on Brexit?
And LDs used to win by-elections by pulling in activists from across the country and outfighting the other parties on the ground. But in a London seat Labour won't be short of help nowadays.
http://www.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listconews/sehk/2018/0509/LTN20180509719.pdf
This will harm a lot of US companies that license to ZTE and will probably lead to a lot of redundancies of Chinese workers. The Chinese will inevitably have to strikeback - politically Xi will have no other option. He will need to prove his hard man credentials.
So I would treat that rumour with great caution.
A business associate of Banks said the services were provided prior to the referendum spending cap taking effect in April 2016, and therefore entirely legal.
But the disclosure, at a time when Electoral Commission investigations into leave campaign financing are continuing, will raise serious concerns about the ease with which laws restricting campaign spending can potentially be circumvented.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/09/arron-banks-company-provided-12m-of-services-to-leaveeu
Many Tory leavers resent that characterisation. But if they didn’t want their image contaminated by bitter intolerance, they should have been more careful about the company they kept in the referendum campaign, and the racially tinted messages they borrowed.
There is a mismatch between leave culture, which thrives on heroic simplifications, and leaving in practice, which is a labyrinth of unheroic complications. The deeper into the maze May plunges, the harder it gets for those who campaigned with promises of a swift and easy escape to express sincere satisfaction with the final product. Many Tories will decide that any Brexit is better than none. They will murmur their assent to May’s deal and, once Britain has been bundled out of the EU, agitate for new leadership. They will not reject May’s Brexit, but nor will they rush to own it.
That is because none of the advertised benefits of leaving the EU will materialise. Leavers will experience total victory in the political battle over EU membership, but without equivalent advances in the culture war.
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/08/brexit-deal-mess-leavers-cheerleaders-abandon
I think they will agree to a peninsula denuclearisation in years to come. It will suit Kim nicely. He wants a Chinese sort of economy with the Party in command [ himself ]. The living standards will improve very quickly. What's not to like ?
However, the whole thing came about because Kim showed his warheads could reach the US. Until then, the US was least concerned that Japan could go up in smoke. I don't think Kim would at any time go nuclear first with S Korea.
https://goo.gl/images/b57Wei
I like this Man City team, they've left our two records in tact!
Whilst I agree with Mr. Smithson as to the probable best method for the yellows, I do think they'd stand a better chance without Cable as leader.
Leicester fans singing "How crap must you be? we just scored a goal!"
Is it better to fight for them as a LDem against a green rather than forming ad hoc arrangements and alliances? If you are not careful you risk ending up with a hotchpotch of policies that satisfy nobody.
The objective of course is not to soften Brexit, but to maintain maximum pressure on May.
If he can get the ERG to depose May, a Corbyn government suddenly becomes possible - maybe even probable.
He unfortunately returned with the worse option of a damp squib
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/eu-trade-brexit-north-east-customs-union-single-market-a8343591.html
Do they really think people in their constituencies have changed their minds on this?
Leavers, through woeful lack of preparation, have no real alternative to offer to continued membership of a customs union for now. So the UK will stay in it on a renewable basis. That will give Leavers the opportunity to work with the Ministry of Magic to find a way to solve the problem in a few years' time.
Perhaps the heat is being generated because the Leave hierarchy are so furious with themselves for being so incompetent.
Top night last night especially when we heard the Chelsea result, big cheers......
Off to count the number of London teams in the CL for 2018-19...
Even three options causes problems, unless you can use AV
Brilliantly, that also means [if it happens] whether we stay *or* leave the subject will remain a bitter source of contention for decades.
Although there is something slightly patronising about this:
"We understand why so many people voted to leave the EU in 2016’s referendum: it was a great way of reminding a cosy London establishment that our region has been receiving a raw deal."