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We'll never know will we Richard.Richard_Tyndall said:
He didn't. It was just a can kicking exercise.TOPPING said:
What a shame our then PM didn't manage to get an opt-out from that latter.Charles said:
No. You can have partnership on specific items.williamglenn said:
Wanting political cooperation without politics is incoherent. It's almost like your preferred Brexit would be to become sui juris common law members of the EU without signing any pesky treaties.Charles said:
It was QMV and the political direction of travel that was an issue for me.0 -
Up north? You mean in Nuneaton?Alanbrooke said:
if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.TOPPING said:
Not at all - He is just relating the UK's cakeist desire to the reality that his country faces.Alanbrooke said:
I think you'll find Leo Varadkar does and at some point it'll come back and bite him on the arseTOPPING said:
Missing several hundred years context of Irish history. Did you really mean your vote to re-animate one of the most poisonous conflicts of recent and not so recent years right on our doorstep?geoffw said:
The Irish border is a problem of the EU's making. It is a device to twist the "negotiations" in Brussel's favour. It also reveals Brussel's hostile attitude.williamglenn said:
Patrick Minford thought the Irish border wasn't a problem because they already have passport checks there...geoffw said:
Thank God for sanity from Boris.Richard_Nabavi said:
The argument is that non-EU coun this mish-mash scheme offers little advantage over a customs union in terms of trade deals or freeing ourselves from EU regulation; it simply adds an enormously complicated administrative layer.NorthofStoke said:Could someone explain how a "customs partnership" assing something?
Alternatively, if we don't want a customs union then we should go for Canada++ and accept the economic hit.
By the way Patrick Minford also supports Canada+.
Ireland, as a member, can expect support from the EU. Who'd a thought it?
No one in their right minds, except perhaps you, wants to fuck with the situation as it exists in Ireland/NI post GFA.
As his deputy put it:
“The problem here is the British government’s stated position [in December], and still now, is they want to make sure there is no border infrastructure between Northern Ireland and Ireland, they don’t want trade barriers between Northern Ireland and the UK, and that the UK is leaving the customs union and the single market – and those things are simply not compatible."
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
I haven't spoken to everyone in the six counties and neither, I suspect, have you but I do see an irresistible logic to what LV said.0 -
The customs partnership is never going to happen. Rules for customs unions are relatively straightforward. You are either in one or you are not. Boris doesn't need to resign.Scott_P said:0 -
you forgot to say you haven't spoken to Leo Varadkar eitherTOPPING said:
Up north? You mean in Nuneaton?Alanbrooke said:
if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.TOPPING said:
Not at all - He is just relating the UK's cakeist desire to the reality that his country faces.Alanbrooke said:
I think you'll find Leo Varadkar does and at some point it'll come back and bite him on the arseTOPPING said:
Missing several hundred years context of Irish history. Did you really mean your vote to re-animate one of the most poisonous conflicts of recent and not so recent years right on our doorstep?geoffw said:
The Irish border is a problem of the EU's making. It is a device to twist the "negotiations" in Brussel's favour. It also reveals Brussel's hostile attitude.williamglenn said:
Patrick Minford thought the Irish border wasn't a problem because they already have passport checks there...geoffw said:
Thank God for sanity from Boris.Richard_Nabavi said:
The argument is that non-EU coun this mish-mash scheme offers little advantage over a customs union in terms of trade deals or freeing ourselves from EU regulation; it simply adds an enormously complicated administrative layer.NorthofStoke said:Could someone explain how a "customs partnership" assing something?
Alternatively, if we don't want a customs union then we should go for Canada++ and accept the economic hit.
By the way Patrick Minford also supports Canada+.
Ireland, as a member, can expect support from the EU. Who'd a thought it?
No one in their right minds, except perhaps you, wants to fuck with the situation as it exists in Ireland/NI post GFA.
As his deputy put it:
“The problem here is the British government’s stated position [in December], and still now, is they want to make sure there is no border infrastructure between Northern Ireland and Ireland, they don’t want trade barriers between Northern Ireland and the UK, and that the UK is leaving the customs union and the single market – and those things are simply not compatible."
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
I haven't spoken to everyone in the six counties and neither, I suspect, have you but I do see an irresistible logic to what LV said.
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Instant relief. I’d also be interested in a scheme that saw the Government partly/fully pay the cash up front to be recovered from the estate of the Parents 20-30 years hence (I.e a preinheritance tax credit). But that might be too complex or expensive.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Like a PET but shorter than 7 years?Casino_Royale said:
Another way of incentivising it could be to offer full IHT relief on the estate of any older person who gifts up to £20k, say, to a person aged under 30 for the purposes of buying their own home.Nigelb said:
The £10k dividend for 25 year-olds is a bloody stupid idea - untargeted/means tested, discriminating against those just a bit too old (but suffering from exactly the same plight), and liable to be blown by the feckless.Tykejohnno said:
Keep Willetts well away from making government policy, the man will hit the Tory vote.GIN1138 said:
"Two Brains" (And No Sense) Willetts coming up with another cunning plan to hit Con voters?Scott_P said:
Any sign of Letwin's fingerprints on this one?
On radio 5 this morning, the idea went down like a bucket of sick and the last time I mentioned that was the tory manifesto for the last GE.
Far better to invest a lot more than that is public housebuilding, which would better address much the same problem - and which at current borrowing rates could in any event be a profitable investment.
One of his brains is an idiot.
Should the older generation make a larger tax contribution to their care ?
Probably.
In other words, carrot for intergenerational redistribution better than stick.0 -
Do you share John's view?Alanbrooke said:if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
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I think the problem is that local plans are very much directed towards large developers. So if you look at the local plan for Newark (apologies for always using this town as an example but it is the one I know) then the development plan is specifically tailored towards development is specific green field zones and infills which would need a very large developer to realise.TOPPING said:
Not really. You can apply for planning permission to build, say X houses and as long as the proposed development complies with both the Local Plan and the Neighbourhood Plan, it is likely to get the go-ahead.Gardenwalker said:
But isn’t the problem that the planning process can still be quite unpredictable and time consuming? Thus, you have to be a monopolistic house builder with huge land banks (and cookie cutter developments) to take part in the “market”.Richard_Tyndall said:
Clearly you travel around the country with your eyes closed. Practically every village has had new developments built onto them in the last decade.Benpointer said:
Hahaha. Try applying for permission to build on the edge of a village!
Indeed there has been so much village development that in areas like Newark and Sherwood they have decided to try and concentrate building around the main towns.
Being intimately involved with the planning process (I study every application in two districts for possible archaeological impact) I can assure you that the system has significantly eased in favour of the developer over the last decade.
Our self-build market barely exists.
There is very little scope outside of these zones for any small scale development.0 -
I don't actually think the house builders are monopolistic. Where I live I have seen quite a large number of small scale developments over the past few years, that is site with less than 5 units. Often due to the complexity of planning issues, one developer will take a lead role on getying planning, and then sell off some of the land to other developers to realise some profit pre development, and to spread the risk. All the developers fear a recession mid project which will wipe out any returns. As I have said it is th landowners who are currently realising a large amount of unearned wealth.TOPPING said:
Not really. You can apply for planning permission to build, say X houses and as long as the proposed developments complies with both the Local Plan and the Neighbourhood Plan, it is likely to get the go-ahead.Gardenwalker said:
But isn’t the problem that the planning process can still be quite unpredictable and time consuming? Thus, you have to be a monopolistic house builder with huge land banks (and cookie cutter developments) to take part in the “market”.Richard_Tyndall said:
Clearly you travel around the country with your eyes closed. Practically every village has had new developments built onto them in the last decade.Benpointer said:
Hahaha. Try applying for permission to build on the edge of a village!
Indeed there has been so much village development that in areas like Newark and Sherwood they have decided to try and concentrate building around the main towns.
Being intimately involved with the planning process (I study every application in two districts for possible archaeological impact) I can assure you that the system has significantly eased in favour of the developer over the last decade.
Our self-build market barely exists.0 -
Do you think he’ll propose my membership of a Loyal Orange Order?williamglenn said:
Do you share John's view?Alanbrooke said:if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
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Just catching up on today's Daily Politics. I'd be interested to see how Labour lowering the threshold/raising the rate of IHT would go down in London.0
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Which is why this is a proxy for Brexit itself. Boris doesn't want a customs union and doesn't think Brexit is worth it if we need one.FF43 said:The customs partnership is never going to happen. Rules for customs unions are relatively straightforward. You are either in one or you are not. Boris doesn't need to resign.
This is perfect weather for kite flying if someone in the Tory party is brave enough to question the feasibility of Brexit.0 -
I liked the comment you got.AlastairMeeks said:
You're so 20th century. It's all about the gay cakes:Alanbrooke said:
were you marching at the weekend ?AlastairMeeks said:I spent the weekend in Portstewart, from which you can easily see Donegal. On a clear day, you can also just make out Islay.
In the past, these three locations were all part of a single state. Now they are in two sovereign states. You could easily imagine circumstances where they are in three sovereign states in the not-too-distant future. Or two, differently configured.
It does make you reflect on the arbitrariness of borders.
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That would be interesting.Richard_Tyndall said:
This is a subject I have been planning on writing a thread header on for some time. Once again it is an area where we cold learn great lessons from Europe. In the Netherlands Self builds account for 30% of all new builds. In Belgium it is 60%. In the UK it is 10% and falling.Gardenwalker said:
But isn’t the problem that the planning process can still be quite unpredictable and time consuming? Thus, you have to be a monopolistic house builder with huge land banks (and cookie cutter developments) to take part in the “market”.Richard_Tyndall said:
Clearly you travel around the country with your eyes closed. Practically every village has had new developments built onto them in the last decade.Benpointer said:
Hahaha. Try applying for permission to build on the edge of a village!
Indeed there has been so much village development that in areas like Newark and Sherwood they have decided to try and concentrate building around the main towns.
Being intimately involved with the planning process (I study every application in two districts for possible archaeological impact) I can assure you that the system has significantly eased in favour of the developer over the last decade.
Our self-build market barely exists.
The land banking issue is a massive problem and I think paying Council Tax on undeveloped land which has outline planning permission would definitely be a good way to go.
I feel like most people’s negativity about new development is due to the often poor quality of new builds. There seems to be a bug in the planning system that discriminates against small scale development and good design.
Having said that, development in London has been much better quality since Boris of people specified the “new London vernacular”.0 -
Imagine if a Corbynite had said the same about Anti-semitism being a fiction.
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nowilliamglenn said:
Do you share John's view?Alanbrooke said:if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
https://twitter.com/KilclooneyJohn/status/991087078560747520
I think it's largely a generational thing. Blokes like Varadkar and Covey who have only ever grown up with the GFA think they can lay about with it without consequences.0 -
According to the House Building Federation there are 2,500 Small and medium house building firms in the UK. But they account for only 12% of all homes built. The big 4 developers account for the other 88%.Nemtynakht said:
I don't actually think the house builders are monopolistic. Where I live I have seen quite a large number of small scale developments over the past few years, that is site with less than 5 units. Often due to the complexity of planning issues, one developer will take a lead role on getying planning, and then sell off some of the land to other developers to realise some profit pre development, and to spread the risk. All the developers fear a recession mid project which will wipe out any returns. As I have said it is th landowners who are currently realising a large amount of unearned wealth.TOPPING said:
Not really. You can apply for planning permission to build, say X houses and as long as the proposed developments complies with both the Local Plan and the Neighbourhood Plan, it is likely to get the go-ahead.Gardenwalker said:
But isn’t the problem that the planning process can still be quite unpredictable and time consuming? Thus, you have to be a monopolistic house builder with huge land banks (and cookie cutter developments) to take part in the “market”.Richard_Tyndall said:
Clearly you travel around the country with your eyes closed. Practically every village has had new developments built onto them in the last decade.Benpointer said:
Hahaha. Try applying for permission to build on the edge of a village!
Indeed there has been so much village development that in areas like Newark and Sherwood they have decided to try and concentrate building around the main towns.
Being intimately involved with the planning process (I study every application in two districts for possible archaeological impact) I can assure you that the system has significantly eased in favour of the developer over the last decade.
Our self-build market barely exists.
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as Ive said many times you'll fit right inTheScreamingEagles said:
Do you think he’ll propose my membership of a Loyal Orange Order?williamglenn said:
Do you share John's view?Alanbrooke said:if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
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I agree the large developers are usually the only ones with the resources to actually develop on that scale. Which is why I think Neighbourhood Plans (the particular question related to developments in villages) are so important.Richard_Tyndall said:
I think the problem is that local plans are very much directed towards large developers. So if you look at the local plan for Newark (apologies for always using this town as an example but it is the one I know) then the development plan is specifically tailored towards development is specific green field zones and infills which would need a very large developer to realise.TOPPING said:
Not really. You can apply for planning permission to build, say X houses and as long as the proposed development complies with both the Local Plan and the Neighbourhood Plan, it is likely to get the go-ahead.Gardenwalker said:
But isn’t the problem that the planning process can still be quite unpredictable and time consuming? Thus, you have to be a monopolistic house builder with huge land banks (and cookie cutter developments) to take part in the “market”.Richard_Tyndall said:
Clearly you travel around the country with your eyes closed. Practically every village has had new developments built onto them in the last decade.Benpointer said:
Hahaha. Try applying for permission to build on the edge of a village!
Indeed there has been so much village development that in areas like Newark and Sherwood they have decided to try and concentrate building around the main towns.
Being intimately involved with the planning process (I study every application in two districts for possible archaeological impact) I can assure you that the system has significantly eased in favour of the developer over the last decade.
Our self-build market barely exists.
There is very little scope outside of these zones for any small scale development.
Most people realise that houses need to be built and in most villages know where they would like development to take place. Neighbourhood Plans carry more heft that people believe (in that conflict with a Neighbourhood Plan is a valid reason for objection). In a way, village Plans are more straightforward because they are more contained.
Asking someone off the street what Newark, or a London area say, should look like is far more challenging, and hence it tends to be broad brush building-height/EA-type content.0 -
Not one that was going to workTOPPING said:
What a shame our then PM didn't manage to get an opt-out from that latter.Charles said:
No. You can have partnership on specific items.williamglenn said:
Wanting political cooperation without politics is incoherent. It's almost like your preferred Brexit would be to become sui juris common law members of the EU without signing any pesky treaties.Charles said:
It was QMV and the political direction of travel that was an issue for me.0 -
You are personalising this to Leo Varadkar, but he is expressing the mainstream Irish position that few people in Ireland would take issue with. The Irish may ultimately decide they made the wrong call and they may blame their taoiseach for it, but right now, that's where it's at.Alanbrooke said:I think you'll find Leo Varadkar does and at some point it'll come back and bite him on the arse
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I can't think of a realistic scenario where the US would want to disable EU use of GPS but would be entirely happy for us to use Galileo instead. It's more believable that the EU simply wanted to make work for European defence and space companies.Charles said:On a security level being entirely dependent on the goodwill of the US appears shortsighted
For commercial use Galileo is not really needed now, and will be of even less use in the nearish future if any of the large LEO satellite constellations being built offer a navigation service.
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Neither of us will ever know will we.Charles said:
Not one that was going to workTOPPING said:
What a shame our then PM didn't manage to get an opt-out from that latter.Charles said:
No. You can have partnership on specific items.williamglenn said:
Wanting political cooperation without politics is incoherent. It's almost like your preferred Brexit would be to become sui juris common law members of the EU without signing any pesky treaties.Charles said:
It was QMV and the political direction of travel that was an issue for me.0 -
LV hasn't actually won an general electionFF43 said:
You are personalising this to Leo Varadkar, but he is expressing the mainstream Irish position that few people in Ireland would take issue with. The Irish may ultimately decide they made the wrong call and they may blame their taoiseach for it, but right now, that's where it's at.Alanbrooke said:I think you'll find Leo Varadkar does and at some point it'll come back and bite him on the arse
He took over from Enda Kenny who frankly had a better understanding of what he was dealing with.
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I didn’t realise that Galileo is dependent on GPS - thought it was a replacement?glw said:
I can't think of a realistic scenario where the US would want to disable EU use of GPS but would be entirely happy for us to use Galileo instead. It's more believable that the EU simply wanted to make work for European defence and space companies.Charles said:On a security level being entirely dependent on the goodwill of the US appears shortsighted
For commercial use Galileo is not really needed now, and will be of even less use in the nearish future if any of the large LEO satellite constellations being built offer a navigation service.
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So I’ll be allowed to wear a Panama hat instead bowler hat?Alanbrooke said:
as Ive said many times you'll fit right inTheScreamingEagles said:
Do you think he’ll propose my membership of a Loyal Orange Order?williamglenn said:
Do you share John's view?Alanbrooke said:if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
https://twitter.com/KilclooneyJohn/status/991087078560747520
And a cream suit too? Black really isn’t my colour.0 -
Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
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Charles said:
I didn’t realise that Galileo is dependent on GPS - thought it was a replacement?glw said:
I can't think of a realistic scenario where the US would want to disable EU use of GPS but would be entirely happy for us to use Galileo instead. It's more believable that the EU simply wanted to make work for European defence and space companies.Charles said:On a security level being entirely dependent on the goodwill of the US appears shortsighted
For commercial use Galileo is not really needed now, and will be of even less use in the nearish future if any of the large LEO satellite constellations being built offer a navigation service.
If it’s dependent what’s the point?
That's not how I read glw's post. AFAIK Galileo is an independent constellation, and therefore an independent system.
The US could disable their system, but Galileo would not be affected by that.
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You haven't been paying attention! Several posters (you can guess the names) have over the months justified the customs arrangement fiasco by trying to unpick the GFA. You know the sort of thing 'Blair gave far too much away to Sinn Fein in the GFA with nothing in return, a hard border will realign that anomaly'. How any of these random statements might align is beyond me but seems to make perfect sense to the PB Brexiteer Brains Trust.TOPPING said:
Missing several hundred years context of Irish history. Did you really mean your vote to re-animate one of the most poisonous conflicts of recent and not so recent years right on our doorstep?geoffw said:
The Irish border is a problem of the EU's making. It is a device to twist the "negotiations" in Brussel's favour. It also reveals Brussel's hostile attitude.williamglenn said:
Patrick Minford thought the Irish border wasn't a problem because they already have passport checks there...geoffw said:
Thank God for sanity from Boris.Richard_Nabavi said:
The argument is that non-EU countries aren't likely to be keen on a trade deal if it involves the importer paying the full EU tariff at entry and potentially claiming back some difference between the EU and UK tariffs. Also in practice, regulatory divergence from the EU would be an enormous hassle.NorthofStoke said:Could someone explain how a "customs partnership" arrangement limits our ability to negotiate trade deals? This argument doesn't make sense to me. The "customs partnership" approach seems to be an administrative arrangement to avoid friction in trade to EU and a hard border with Ireland. It doesn't restrict the terms of any trade between the UK and other countries outsied EU. Am I missing something?
Boris is right - this is a bonkers scheme. There's a strong argument for a customs union on economic grounds (especially for the car manufacturing sector), but this mish-mash scheme offers little advantage over a customs union in terms of trade deals or freeing ourselves from EU regulation; it simply adds an enormously complicated administrative layer.
Alternatively, if we don't want a customs union then we should go for Canada++ and accept the economic hit.
By the way Patrick Minford also supports Canada+.
Ireland, as a member, can expect support from the EU. Who'd a thought it?
No one in their right minds, except perhaps you, wants to fuck with the situation as it exists in Ireland/NI post GFA.0 -
certainlyTheScreamingEagles said:
So I’ll be allowed to wear a Panama hat instead bowler hat?Alanbrooke said:
as Ive said many times you'll fit right inTheScreamingEagles said:
Do you think he’ll propose my membership of a Loyal Orange Order?williamglenn said:
Do you share John's view?Alanbrooke said:if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
https://twitter.com/KilclooneyJohn/status/991087078560747520
And a cream suit too? Black really isn’t my colour.
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https://twitter.com/AMcNeillPeel/status/993788307602526208TheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
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Nah - MT and TMTheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
https://twitter.com/ngeographers/status/993764196847366144?s=21
like the Labour Party they just don't like women
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Oxford has a history of misogyny towards our female PMs.tlg86 said:
https://twitter.com/AMcNeillPeel/status/993788307602526208TheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
https://twitter.com/ngeographers/status/993764196847366144?s=21
They treated Lady Thatcher disgracefully, fortunately Cambridge gave her the respect and honour she deserved.0 -
I don't think the answer to these tossers making an infantile point by taking down the portrait of one person, is to take down the portrait of another!tlg86 said:
https://twitter.com/AMcNeillPeel/status/993788307602526208TheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
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Hoorah. I didn’t fancy getting the nickname ‘The Black and Tan’ when wearing a black suit in Northern Ireland.Alanbrooke said:
certainlyTheScreamingEagles said:
So I’ll be allowed to wear a Panama hat instead bowler hat?Alanbrooke said:
as Ive said many times you'll fit right inTheScreamingEagles said:
Do you think he’ll propose my membership of a Loyal Orange Order?williamglenn said:
Do you share John's view?Alanbrooke said:if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
https://twitter.com/KilclooneyJohn/status/991087078560747520
And a cream suit too? Black really isn’t my colour.
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try CorkTheScreamingEagles said:
Hoorah. I didn’t fancy getting the nickname ‘The Black and Tan’ when wearing a black suit in Northern Ireland.Alanbrooke said:
certainlyTheScreamingEagles said:
So I’ll be allowed to wear a Panama hat instead bowler hat?Alanbrooke said:
as Ive said many times you'll fit right inTheScreamingEagles said:
Do you think he’ll propose my membership of a Loyal Orange Order?williamglenn said:
Do you share John's view?Alanbrooke said:if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
https://twitter.com/KilclooneyJohn/status/991087078560747520
And a cream suit too? Black really isn’t my colour.
don't forget the order is founded in honour of a gay dutchman
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Not so much a problem in the North...TheScreamingEagles said:
Hoorah. I didn’t fancy getting the nickname ‘The Black and Tan’ when wearing a black suit in Northern Ireland.Alanbrooke said:
certainlyTheScreamingEagles said:
So I’ll be allowed to wear a Panama hat instead bowler hat?Alanbrooke said:
as Ive said many times you'll fit right inTheScreamingEagles said:
Do you think he’ll propose my membership of a Loyal Orange Order?williamglenn said:
Do you share John's view?Alanbrooke said:if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
https://twitter.com/KilclooneyJohn/status/991087078560747520
And a cream suit too? Black really isn’t my colour.
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Personally I don't think it makes sense to take down portraits of famous people except in the most extreme cases. Sometimes the issue is different where it is something like an honorary degree, which can/should be withdrawn. But these are people whose degrees cannot be withdrawn. Instead the accompanying text should be neutral.TOPPING said:
I don't think the answer to these tossers making an infantile point by taking down the portrait of one person, is to take down the portrait of another!tlg86 said:
https://twitter.com/AMcNeillPeel/status/993788307602526208TheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
https://twitter.com/ngeographers/status/993764196847366144?s=21
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All he's doing is pointing out the utter hypocrisy of these numpties.TOPPING said:
I don't think the answer to these tossers making an infantile point by taking down the portrait of one person, is to take down the portrait of another!tlg86 said:
https://twitter.com/AMcNeillPeel/status/993788307602526208TheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
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job at City HallFoxy said:byelection time!
Anyone know why?
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/993851498890256384?s=19
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Well, possibly not in parts. Perhaps more problematic in some parts...TOPPING said:
Not so much a problem in the North...TheScreamingEagles said:
Hoorah. I didn’t fancy getting the nickname ‘The Black and Tan’ when wearing a black suit in Northern Ireland.Alanbrooke said:
certainlyTheScreamingEagles said:
So I’ll be allowed to wear a Panama hat instead bowler hat?Alanbrooke said:
as Ive said many times you'll fit right inTheScreamingEagles said:
Do you think he’ll propose my membership of a Loyal Orange Order?williamglenn said:
Do you share John's view?Alanbrooke said:if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
https://twitter.com/KilclooneyJohn/status/991087078560747520
And a cream suit too? Black really isn’t my colour.
don't forget the order is founded in honour of a gay dutchman0 -
To campaign for AV be Sadiq Khan’s deputy at City Hall.Foxy said:byelection time!
Anyone know why?
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Yes I get it just that I don't think engaging with them, and especially on those terms, is productive.tlg86 said:
All he's doing is pointing out the utter hypocrisy of these numpties.TOPPING said:
I don't think the answer to these tossers making an infantile point by taking down the portrait of one person, is to take down the portrait of another!tlg86 said:
https://twitter.com/AMcNeillPeel/status/993788307602526208TheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
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Richard_Tyndall said:
According to the House Building Federation there are 2,500 Small and medium house building firms in the UK. But they account for only 12% of all homes built. The big 4 developers account for the other 88%.Nemtynakht said:
I don't actually think the house builders are monopolistic. Where I live I have seen quite a large number of small scale developments over the past few years, that is site with less than 5 units. Often due to the complexity of planning issues, one developer will take a lead role on getying planning, and then sell off some of the land to other developers to realise some profit pre development, and to spread the risk. All the developers fear a recession mid project which will wipe out any returns. As I have said it is th landowners who are currently realising a large amount of unearned wealth.TOPPING said:
Not really. You can apply for planning permission to build, say X houses and as long as the proposed developments complies with both the Local Plan and the Neighbourhood Plan, it is likely to get the go-ahead.Gardenwalker said:
But isn’t the problem that the planning process can still be quite unpredictable and time consuming? Thus, you have to be a monopolistic house builder with huge land banks (and cookie cutter developments) to take part in the “market”.Richard_Tyndall said:
Clearly you travel around the country with your eyes closed. Practically every village has had new developments built onto them in the last decade.Benpointer said:
Hahaha. Try applying for permission to build on the edge of a village!
Indeed there has been so much village development that in areas like Newark and Sherwood they have decided to try and concentrate building around the main towns.
Being intimately involved with the planning process (I study every application in two districts for possible archaeological impact) I can assure you that the system has significantly eased in favour of the developer over the last decade.
Our self-build market barely exists.
The big developers were small developers once.
And some of the big developers will have become small or non-existent. For example Northern Devlopments was the biggest house builder in 1973.0 -
Time was the kerbstones were your guide...Foxy said:
Well, possibly not in parts. Perhaps more problematic in some parts...TOPPING said:
Not so much a problem in the North...TheScreamingEagles said:
Hoorah. I didn’t fancy getting the nickname ‘The Black and Tan’ when wearing a black suit in Northern Ireland.Alanbrooke said:
certainlyTheScreamingEagles said:
So I’ll be allowed to wear a Panama hat instead bowler hat?Alanbrooke said:
as Ive said many times you'll fit right inTheScreamingEagles said:
Do you think he’ll propose my membership of a Loyal Orange Order?williamglenn said:
Do you share John's view?Alanbrooke said:if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
https://twitter.com/KilclooneyJohn/status/991087078560747520
And a cream suit too? Black really isn’t my colour.
don't forget the order is founded in honour of a gay dutchman0 -
Melanie Phillips was on The Sunday Politics show last Sunday saying the same .She did not receive much questioning of her view.TheScreamingEagles said:Imagine if a Corbynite had said the same about Anti-semitism being a fiction.
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Geography: where big spaces and small minds meet....tlg86 said:
https://twitter.com/AMcNeillPeel/status/993788307602526208TheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
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I assume that your comment is tongue in cheek, or does your hatred of May run that deep?TheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
twitter.com/ngeographers/status/993764196847366144?s=21
What a pathetic campaign. The description on their twitter account is :
"Challenging @theresa_may as an ‘important’ alumna from alumnae in the School of Geography and the Environment, University of Oxford"
If becoming Prime Minister doesn't make you an important alumna, I'm not sure what does.0 -
To be fair, we've had so many PMs that it's not that much of a distinction... Mind you, it is for the Geography Department.RobD said:
I assume that your comment is tongue in cheek, or does your hatred of May run that deep?TheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
twitter.com/ngeographers/status/993764196847366144?s=21
What a pathetic campaign. The description on their twitter account is :
"Challenging @theresa_may as an ‘important’ alumna from alumnae in the School of Geography and the Environment, University of Oxford"
If becoming Prime Minister doesn't make you an important alumna, I'm not sure what does.0 -
Most importantly, who gets to choose our candidate?Foxy said:byelection time!
Anyone know why?
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/993851498890256384?s=19
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See my comment at 2:50 BST.RobD said:
I assume that your comment is tongue in cheek, or does your hatred of May run that deep?TheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
twitter.com/ngeographers/status/993764196847366144?s=21
What a pathetic campaign. The description on their twitter account is :
"Challenging @theresa_may as an ‘important’ alumna from alumnae in the School of Geography and the Environment, University of Oxford"
If becoming Prime Minister doesn't make you an important alumna, I'm not sure what does.
Plus I don’t hate Theresa.
I’m quite warming to her recently, she’s going to give us BINO and keep us in the customs union, that makes her the finest PM since Thatcher.0 -
In her own way, Ms Phillips is every bit as looney as some of the Corbynites.TheScreamingEagles said:Imagine if a Corbynite had said the same about Anti-semitism being a fiction.
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Pretty twattish bloke on Who Wants to be a Millionaire didn't know what MT's tutor had received her nobel prize for.Richard_Nabavi said:
To be fair, we've had so many PMs that it's not that much of a distinction... Mind you, it is for the Geography Department.RobD said:
I assume that your comment is tongue in cheek, or does your hatred of May run that deep?TheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
twitter.com/ngeographers/status/993764196847366144?s=21
What a pathetic campaign. The description on their twitter account is :
"Challenging @theresa_may as an ‘important’ alumna from alumnae in the School of Geography and the Environment, University of Oxford"
If becoming Prime Minister doesn't make you an important alumna, I'm not sure what does.
Then again, he didn't know that Blackpool was in Lancashire so I suppose not knowing Nobel Laureates should have come as no surprise.0 -
Well, you wouldn’t mix anything with Guinness in the South .........TOPPING said:
Not so much a problem in the North...TheScreamingEagles said:
Hoorah. I didn’t fancy getting the nickname ‘The Black and Tan’ when wearing a black suit in Northern Ireland.Alanbrooke said:
certainlyTheScreamingEagles said:
So I’ll be allowed to wear a Panama hat instead bowler hat?Alanbrooke said:
as Ive said many times you'll fit right inTheScreamingEagles said:
Do you think he’ll propose my membership of a Loyal Orange Order?williamglenn said:
Do you share John's view?Alanbrooke said:if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
https://twitter.com/KilclooneyJohn/status/991087078560747520
And a cream suit too? Black really isn’t my colour.
don't forget the order is founded in honour of a gay dutchman0 -
SandyRentool said:
Most importantly, who gets to choose our candidate?Foxy said:byelection time!
Anyone know why?
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/993851498890256384?s=19
You will be assigned an approved candidate by the great and glorious leadership.
And don't forget to doff your cap to them when they do.
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Ah, that's what I get for not reading the rest of the thread! Apologies.TheScreamingEagles said:
See my comment at 2:50 BST.RobD said:
I assume that your comment is tongue in cheek, or does your hatred of May run that deep?TheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
twitter.com/ngeographers/status/993764196847366144?s=21
What a pathetic campaign. The description on their twitter account is :
"Challenging @theresa_may as an ‘important’ alumna from alumnae in the School of Geography and the Environment, University of Oxford"
If becoming Prime Minister doesn't make you an important alumna, I'm not sure what does.
Plus I don’t hate Theresa.
I’m quite warming to her recently, she’s going to give us BINO and keep us in the customs union, that makes her the finest PM since Thatcher.0 -
She can't keep us in the Customs Union. It is not in her power to do so without us remaining as a member of the EU.TheScreamingEagles said:
See my comment at 2:50 BST.RobD said:
I assume that your comment is tongue in cheek, or does your hatred of May run that deep?TheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
twitter.com/ngeographers/status/993764196847366144?s=21
What a pathetic campaign. The description on their twitter account is :
"Challenging @theresa_may as an ‘important’ alumna from alumnae in the School of Geography and the Environment, University of Oxford"
If becoming Prime Minister doesn't make you an important alumna, I'm not sure what does.
Plus I don’t hate Theresa.
I’m quite warming to her recently, she’s going to give us BINO and keep us in the customs union, that makes her the finest PM since Thatcher.0 -
And thousands of small developers have been driven out of business by the big 4. The point being that a situation where 88% of the building is being done by just 4 companies who put immense pressure on local councils to grant green field planning permission by refusing to developed land banked assets is not healthy and is one of the reasons we have a housing crisis.David_Evershed said:Richard_Tyndall said:
According to the House Building Federation there are 2,500 Small and medium house building firms in the UK. But they account for only 12% of all homes built. The big 4 developers account for the other 88%.Nemtynakht said:
I don't actually think the house builders are monopolistic. Where I live I have seen quite a large number of small scale developments over the past few years, that is site with less than 5 units. Often due to the complexity of planning issues, one developer will take a lead role on getying planning, and then sell off some of the land to other developers to realise some profit pre development, and to spread the risk. All the developers fear a recession mid project which will wipe out any returns. As I have said it is th landowners who are currently realising a large amount of unearned wealth.TOPPING said:
Not really. You can apply for planning permission to build, say X houses and as long as the proposed developments complies with both the Local Plan and the Neighbourhood Plan, it is likely to get the go-ahead.Gardenwalker said:
But isn’t the problem that the planning process can still be quite unpredictable and time consuming? Thus, you have to be a monopolistic house builder with huge land banks (and cookie cutter developments) to take part in the “market”.Richard_Tyndall said:
Clearly you travel around the country with your eyes closed. Practically every village has had new developments built onto them in the last decade.Benpointer said:
Hahaha. Try applying for permission to build on the edge of a village!
Indeed there has been so much village development that in areas like Newark and Sherwood they have decided to try and concentrate building around the main towns.
Being intimately involved with the planning process (I study every application in two districts for possible archaeological impact) I can assure you that the system has significantly eased in favour of the developer over the last decade.
Our self-build market barely exists.
The big developers were small developers once.
And some of the big developers will have become small or non-existent. For example Northern Developments was the biggest house builder in 1973.0 -
In the north, don't the Unionists have their Guinness with a dash of Orange?OldKingCole said:
Well, you wouldn’t mix anything with Guinness in the South .........TOPPING said:
Not so much a problem in the North...TheScreamingEagles said:
Hoorah. I didn’t fancy getting the nickname ‘The Black and Tan’ when wearing a black suit in Northern Ireland.Alanbrooke said:
certainlyTheScreamingEagles said:
So I’ll be allowed to wear a Panama hat instead bowler hat?Alanbrooke said:
as Ive said many times you'll fit right inTheScreamingEagles said:
Do you think he’ll propose my membership of a Loyal Orange Order?williamglenn said:
Do you share John's view?Alanbrooke said:if you honestly think that's what people up north think youre mad.
LV should have just let the sleeping dogs lie, he's on a slippery slope
https://twitter.com/KilclooneyJohn/status/991087078560747520
And a cream suit too? Black really isn’t my colour.
don't forget the order is founded in honour of a gay dutchman0 -
Which is in her power so she can.Richard_Tyndall said:
She can't keep us in the Customs Union. It is not in her power to do so without us remaining as a member of the EU.TheScreamingEagles said:
See my comment at 2:50 BST.RobD said:
I assume that your comment is tongue in cheek, or does your hatred of May run that deep?TheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
twitter.com/ngeographers/status/993764196847366144?s=21
What a pathetic campaign. The description on their twitter account is :
"Challenging @theresa_may as an ‘important’ alumna from alumnae in the School of Geography and the Environment, University of Oxford"
If becoming Prime Minister doesn't make you an important alumna, I'm not sure what does.
Plus I don’t hate Theresa.
I’m quite warming to her recently, she’s going to give us BINO and keep us in the customs union, that makes her the finest PM since Thatcher.0 -
And ambitious to be next London Mayor.TheScreamingEagles said:
To campaign for AV be Sadiq Khan’s deputy at City Hall.Foxy said:byelection time!
Anyone know why?
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/993851498890256384?s=190 -
Actually it was more the banks that drove them out of business - they couldn't get finance after the financial crisis, and a lot dropped out of the market because of that.Richard_Tyndall said:And thousands of small developers have been driven out of business by the big 4. The point being that a situation where 88% of the building is being done by just 4 companies who put immense pressure on local councils to grant green field planning permission by refusing to developed land banked assets is not healthy and is one of the reasons we have a housing crisis.
It is a precarious business - the big 4 and a few others are coining it in now, but even the big guys were in a very bad state eight years ago, with many of them having to go to shareholders to raise emergency funding. The idea that it's a licence to print money is garbage - just look at the P/E ratios of housebuilders.0 -
Political betting klaxon.
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Charles said:
Yes. They are different skills for different purposes.Scott_P said:
The person qualified to diagnose the need for, and request, the image, is not qualified, in your view, to see the image...Charles said:The GP doesn’t have the expertise to add to the imaging assessment so there is no benefit
The person qualified to see the image, in your view, doesn't need to verify the request.
I don't think that is a good way of working.
The GP is identifying it’s possibly more than a simple sprain. The imaging expert takes that on trust and reviews the image. The GP could spend time looking at the images but won’t change the answer so it’s not efficient
Specialisation of labour is abasic concept
Quite. Economic use of GP and consultant time. Plus the patient probably gets the overall result quicker, overall, since they don’t have to wait for an opportunity to see the consultant.0 -
The discourtesy of some people is extraordinary. You may not agree with her but that doesn’t m an she’s not PMTheScreamingEagles said:Turns out Oxford isn’t a complete dump after all.
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It is pointless anyway. In the case of Newark the District Council applied for and got Growth Point status in secret, later claiming it was because the information was commercially sensitive. So a plan which will increase the size of the town by 60% in 15 years was presented as a fait a complis and the man in the street had no say at all.TOPPING said:
I agree the large developers are usually the only ones with the resources to actually develop on that scale. Which is why I think Neighbourhood Plans (the particular question related to developments in villages) are so important.
Most people realise that houses need to be built and in most villages know where they would like development to take place. Neighbourhood Plans carry more heft that people believe (in that conflict with a Neighbourhood Plan is a valid reason for objection). In a way, village Plans are more straightforward because they are more contained.
Asking someone off the street what Newark, or a London area say, should look like is far more challenging, and hence it tends to be broad brush building-height/EA-type content.0 -
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It depends on the nature of the case. Seeing the images has the advantage for the referer of sense checking the Radiologist for mistakes, and the Radiologist benefits from clinical input to know what to look for. Complex cases benefit from combined MDT meetings.OldKingCole said:Charles said:
Yes. They are different skills for different purposes.Scott_P said:
The person qualified to diagnose the need for, and request, the image, is not qualified, in your view, to see the image...Charles said:The GP doesn’t have the expertise to add to the imaging assessment so there is no benefit
The person qualified to see the image, in your view, doesn't need to verify the request.
I don't think that is a good way of working.
The GP is identifying it’s possibly more than a simple sprain. The imaging expert takes that on trust and reviews the image. The GP could spend time looking at the images but won’t change the answer so it’s not efficient
Specialisation of labour is abasic concept
Quite. Economic use of GP and consultant time. Plus the patient probably gets the overall result quicker, overall, since they don’t have to wait for an opportunity to see the consultant.
The Interpretive side of Radiology is probably going to be made obselete by Big Data derived alogarithms, but not the interventional aspects. In the meantime Big Data needs robust diagnoses for baseline.0
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