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Yes, it's now the tie of the round.FrancisUrquhart said:Barca are rattled.
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Watching from the back of a busy pub, from the images I thought it was the lack of the goalkeeper they were discussing.tlg86 said:
Fair enough. McManaman even said that it came off Milner and still didn't change his mind!Philip_Thompson said:
I didn't realise the ball came off Milner.Gallowgate said:
The ball was played by Milner and therefore not offside...Philip_Thompson said:Does nobody understand the offside rule?
The TV keep showing the replays for the offside 'goal' when it's one of the clearest offside you'll ever get. The goalkeeper and 9 other players were a long gap behind the goalscorer. It shouldn't be news that you need 2 defenders for it not to be offside.0 -
I stayed inland during the 2016 Open at Troon. Some of those towns and villages appeared very depressed.another_richard said:
Ex-mining towns vary.Casino_Royale said:
I agree. I think ex-mining towns are a much bigger challenge.JosiasJessop said:A brilliant article. Thanks, Alastair. I wish I could say my somewhat close knowledge of much of our coast gave me any insight into the problems and their solutions, but it does not.
I might add other inland areas face worse problems; for instance some Welsh ex-mining areas, which do not even have the advantage of good scenery and sea views.
Yet as you point out, the decline can be reversed. Some places are doing good things, and there must be studies somewhere out there that outline what the successful ones are doing compared to the unsuccessful ones.
Those in Yorkshire, Lancashire and the Midlands are centrally located and are on communication routes and so have been able to attract new investment and/or become bases for commuting.
The more isolated coalfields in South Wales, Scotland and the North-East have greater difficulties.
I'd say the same about some of the ex-mining towns and villages in Kent which I saw when I went to the 2011 Open at Sandwich,0 -
It's one of those incidents that needs the officials to work together. I think between them they should have come to the correct decision.Philip_Thompson said:
Watching from the back of a busy pub, from the images I thought it was the lack of the goalkeeper they were discussing.tlg86 said:
Fair enough. McManaman even said that it came off Milner and still didn't change his mind!Philip_Thompson said:
I didn't realise the ball came off Milner.Gallowgate said:
The ball was played by Milner and therefore not offside...Philip_Thompson said:Does nobody understand the offside rule?
The TV keep showing the replays for the offside 'goal' when it's one of the clearest offside you'll ever get. The goalkeeper and 9 other players were a long gap behind the goalscorer. It shouldn't be news that you need 2 defenders for it not to be offside.0 -
A great article.
On the disucssion of which areas face the biggest challenges, I would nominate West Cumbria: both coastal AND ex-mining, and really not on the route to anywhere.
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All over for City0
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Has TSE been arrested yet?0
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Depends how good his acting skills are.DavidL said:Has TSE been arrested yet?
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OHHHHHHH....What a save from the Barca keeper.0
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The Kent coalfield was near Dover so its an area which lost mining, ferrying and seaside jobs in recent decades.tlg86 said:
I stayed inland during the 2016 Open at Troon. Some of those towns and villages appeared very depressed.another_richard said:
Ex-mining towns vary.Casino_Royale said:
I agree. I think ex-mining towns are a much bigger challenge.JosiasJessop said:A brilliant article. Thanks, Alastair. I wish I could say my somewhat close knowledge of much of our coast gave me any insight into the problems and their solutions, but it does not.
I might add other inland areas face worse problems; for instance some Welsh ex-mining areas, which do not even have the advantage of good scenery and sea views.
Yet as you point out, the decline can be reversed. Some places are doing good things, and there must be studies somewhere out there that outline what the successful ones are doing compared to the unsuccessful ones.
Those in Yorkshire, Lancashire and the Midlands are centrally located and are on communication routes and so have been able to attract new investment and/or become bases for commuting.
The more isolated coalfields in South Wales, Scotland and the North-East have greater difficulties.
I'd say the same about some of the ex-mining towns and villages in Kent which I saw when I went to the 2011 Open at Sandwich,
And would be too far to commute to London.
One problem ex mining towns have is that while you can attract new investment, build nice new housing estates and landscape the slag heaps you can't gentrify the original housing.
A pit village from 1900 is never going to look as pretty as a historic fishing village.0 -
Amazing timing explaining the origins of antisemitism: Simon Schama on Jews in Civilisations just now on BBC4.0
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This is a very good point. Growth in recent years has been in places which can support those who move white collar jobs every five years or so: London, and towns close enough to act as part of the same travel to work area, and, to a lesser extent, Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham, together with the nicer bits of their respective hinterlands. Parts of the Greater Blackpool area are very nice indeed - nice enough that I might want to live there - I might even find a job that I like there - but I'm unlikely to find the same succession of good jobs there that I can in Manchester.Malmesbury said:
I know a couple of people who are living in the nicer parts of Bournemouth and working in London. They commute part of the week and work from home a couple of days.another_richard said:' Seven of the top ten areas for heroin and morphine deaths are on the coast, including Blackpool, Thanet, Hastings and Bournemouth. Jaywick, just outside Clacton, has twice been named England’s most deprived area. Hastings and Blackpool both feature in the top five for suicide rates. '
It might be significant that the failing seaside towns are concentrated in SE England plus Blackpool.
Those in Yorkshire and the North-East seem to be doing better.
The problem with making the UK less London centric is that people are much less inclined to be mobile. While there are some jobs in Bournemouth, when you want to move jobs every 5 years or so (pretty standard in modern white collar work)......0 -
Hopefully he's not been making a tit of himself like Mike Parry did at WHL a few years ago:FrancisUrquhart said:
Depends how good his acting skills are.DavidL said:Has TSE been arrested yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yz7vPrGKRE0 -
Roma ahead - Barcelona need a goal in the next 7 minutes to stay in comp0
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What a game between Roma and Barca.0
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That wasn’t offside either. We have no referees for the World Cup ? This is shocking for the CL and I say that as a Man U fan.0
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Indeed.another_richard said:
Ex-mining towns vary.Casino_Royale said:
I agree. I think ex-mining towns are a much bigger challenge.JosiasJessop said:A brilliant article. Thanks, Alastair. I wish I could say my somewhat close knowledge of much of our coast gave me any insight into the problems and their solutions, but it does not.
I might add other inland areas face worse problems; for instance some Welsh ex-mining areas, which do not even have the advantage of good scenery and sea views.
Yet as you point out, the decline can be reversed. Some places are doing good things, and there must be studies somewhere out there that outline what the successful ones are doing compared to the unsuccessful ones.
Those in Yorkshire, Lancashire and the Midlands are centrally located and are on communication routes and so have been able to attract new investment and/or become bases for commuting.
The more isolated coalfields in South Wales, Scotland and the North-East have greater difficulties.
In general, towns need to have an answer as to where they fit into a predominantly services-based economy.0 -
I don't remember Dzeko being this good for Man City.0
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Barcelona out0
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I always thought he was decent for them. Annoyingly I thought about backing Roma at 80-1 for the CL but decided not to.FrancisUrquhart said:I don't remember Dzeko being this good for Man City.
Could be interesting if Liverpool draw Roma and Arsenal draw Lazio (should they both progress) in the EL.0 -
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That sounds a bit sinister tbh. Re-education is not a word that should be used. Educate, sure, but re-educate is extremely Orwellian.williamglenn said:0 -
The clip is worth watching for the context. He was deliberately turning the Orwellianism against its usual proponents.MaxPB said:That sounds a bit sinister tbh. Re-education is not a word that should be used. Educate, sure, but re-educate is extremely Orwellian.
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I would suggest thinking in groups - creating nexi....Cookie said:
This is a very good point. Growth in recent years has been in places which can support those who move white collar jobs every five years or so: London, and towns close enough to act as part of the same travel to work area, and, to a lesser extent, Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham, together with the nicer bits of their respective hinterlands. Parts of the Greater Blackpool area are very nice indeed - nice enough that I might want to live there - I might even find a job that I like there - but I'm unlikely to find the same succession of good jobs there that I can in Manchester.Malmesbury said:
I know a couple of people who are living in the nicer parts of Bournemouth and working in London. They commute part of the week and work from home a couple of days.another_richard said:' Seven of the top ten areas for heroin and morphine deaths are on the coast, including Blackpool, Thanet, Hastings and Bournemouth. Jaywick, just outside Clacton, has twice been named England’s most deprived area. Hastings and Blackpool both feature in the top five for suicide rates. '
It might be significant that the failing seaside towns are concentrated in SE England plus Blackpool.
Those in Yorkshire and the North-East seem to be doing better.
The problem with making the UK less London centric is that people are much less inclined to be mobile. While there are some jobs in Bournemouth, when you want to move jobs every 5 years or so (pretty standard in modern white collar work)......
Weymouth-Bournemouth-Southamptom-Portsmouth - give the area a catchy name, some business parks. Importantly - develop intercommunication *between* the parts of the area. Make it make sense to move to the area, but also be able to commute easily *within* it.0 -
There's certainly nothing wrong between Bournemouth and Brighton. You only have to travel on the roads around those places to know that their economies are doing very nicely.Malmesbury said:
I would suggest thinking in groups - creating nexi....Cookie said:
This is a very good point. Growth in recent years has been in places which can support those who move white collar jobs every five years or so: London, and towns close enough to act as part of the same travel to work area, and, to a lesser extent, Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham, together with the nicer bits of their respective hinterlands. Parts of the Greater Blackpool area are very nice indeed - nice enough that I might want to live there - I might even find a job that I like there - but I'm unlikely to find the same succession of good jobs there that I can in Manchester.Malmesbury said:
I know a couple of people who are living in the nicer parts of Bournemouth and working in London. They commute part of the week and work from home a couple of days.another_richard said:' Seven of the top ten areas for heroin and morphine deaths are on the coast, including Blackpool, Thanet, Hastings and Bournemouth. Jaywick, just outside Clacton, has twice been named England’s most deprived area. Hastings and Blackpool both feature in the top five for suicide rates. '
It might be significant that the failing seaside towns are concentrated in SE England plus Blackpool.
Those in Yorkshire and the North-East seem to be doing better.
The problem with making the UK less London centric is that people are much less inclined to be mobile. While there are some jobs in Bournemouth, when you want to move jobs every 5 years or so (pretty standard in modern white collar work)......
Weymouth-Bournemouth-Southamptom-Portsmouth - give the area a catchy name, some business parks. Importantly - develop intercommunication *between* the parts of the area. Make it make sense to move to the area, but also be able to commute easily *within* it.0 -
I loved that show - a terrifying vision of super intelligent machines taking over, disguised for several seasons as a stock procedural acting as though it didn't know how creepy it was.Malmesbury said:
Oh what a lovely future. Samaritan will look after you.FrancisUrquhart said:Hmmm.....really...
He notes that artificial intelligence can already detect most Islamist extremist content, but other offensive posts are only reacted to after a user has complained to the company.
"Hate speech, I am optimistic, that over a five- to 10-year period we will have AI [artificial intelligence] tools that can get into some of the linguistic nuances of different types of content to be more accurate in flagging things for our systems.
"But today we're just not there on that.
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-43706880
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Jews were banned from owning property so moved into the business of lending money - and hence became less liked, like Barclays, Lloyds, HSBC, RBS etc.geoffw said:Amazing timing explaining the origins of antisemitism: Simon Schama on Jews in Civilisations just now on BBC4.
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I think he was deliberately using 're-educate' in its sinister sense.MaxPB said:
That sounds a bit sinister tbh. Re-education is not a word that should be used. Educate, sure, but re-educate is extremely Orwellian.williamglenn said:0 -
There needs to be more growth than that to really bring the areas up - what we need to do is move from dormitory towns for London to more local working.tlg86 said:
There's certainly nothing wrong between Bournemouth and Brighton. You only have to travel on the roads around those places to know that their economies are doing very nicely.Malmesbury said:
I would suggest thinking in groups - creating nexi....Cookie said:
This is a very good point. Growth in recent years has been in places which can support those who move white collar jobs every five years or so: London, and towns close enough to act as part of the same travel to work area, and, to a lesser extent, Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham, together with the nicer bits of their respective hinterlands. Parts of the Greater Blackpool area are very nice indeed - nice enough that I might want to live there - I might even find a job that I like there - but I'm unlikely to find the same succession of good jobs there that I can in Manchester.Malmesbury said:
I know a couple of people who are living in the nicer parts of Bournemouth and working in London. They commute part of the week and work from home a couple of days.another_richard said:' Seven of the top ten areas for heroin and morphine deaths are on the coast, including Blackpool, Thanet, Hastings and Bournemouth. Jaywick, just outside Clacton, has twice been named England’s most deprived area. Hastings and Blackpool both feature in the top five for suicide rates. '
It might be significant that the failing seaside towns are concentrated in SE England plus Blackpool.
Those in Yorkshire and the North-East seem to be doing better.
The problem with making the UK less London centric is that people are much less inclined to be mobile. While there are some jobs in Bournemouth, when you want to move jobs every 5 years or so (pretty standard in modern white collar work)......
Weymouth-Bournemouth-Southamptom-Portsmouth - give the area a catchy name, some business parks. Importantly - develop intercommunication *between* the parts of the area. Make it make sense to move to the area, but also be able to commute easily *within* it.0 -
Best get in whilst they still have the authority..williamglenn said:0 -
An odd feature of the last election was the way Labour did remarkably well on the South ( but not the East) Coast. South Coast UKIP voters from 2015 switched Labour. East Coast UKIP voters switched Conservative.0
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She actually called Russia "the country, which was founded on many of his precepts", which is arguably even more ignorant than just getting his nationality wrong.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?0 -
Trafficking in stolen antiquities is a major source of income for Terrorism and organised crime, particularly with recent instability across the Middle East and North Africa:Mortimer said:
Currently, the EU are trying to pass barmy legislation ('anti terror', apparently - though what printed books from 1767 have to do with terror funding, no-one seems to be able to say) that could cripple the entire antiques industry.Bromptonaut said:Party of small business my arse.
https://twitter.com/chrisgreybrexit/status/983425043324723202?s=21
Your move.
https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/specialseries/2017/02/art-trafficking-170228090044987.html0 -
Interesting statistic.
https://twitter.com/multilateralist/status/9838025739405107210 -
That is an interesting point. Is it social class related?Sean_F said:An odd feature of the last election was the way Labour did remarkably well on the South ( but not the East) Coast. South Coast UKIP voters from 2015 switched Labour. East Coast UKIP voters switched Conservative.
Leicester working class folk often retire to Skegness and Mablethorpe, Hunstanton and Cromer. Posher ones to the South West. Largely it is a matter of affordability.0 -
Thats hilarious. Or would be if it wasn't part of a insane drive to nuclear war.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
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Theuniondivvie said:
Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
Fire her. Now.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
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But British diplomats are the best in the world.DavidL said:Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
Fire her. Now.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
Or so we're told.0 -
I think Marx's view of Russia was that it was such a backwards shithole that it would be the last country on earth to adopt his views.JWisemann said:
Thats hilarious. Or would be if it wasn't part of a insane drive to nuclear war.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
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As well as being ignorant and thick she looks like a bag lady on a bad day. I mean, surely this is a prestigious post? Who is our man in Mongolia at the moment?another_richard said:
But British diplomats are the best in the world.DavidL said:Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
Fire her. Now.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
Or so we're told.0 -
I wonder if housing affordability might be a factor with the Southies having a much bigger problem than the Easties and so more open to Corbyn.Foxy said:
That is an interesting point. Is it social class related?Sean_F said:An odd feature of the last election was the way Labour did remarkably well on the South ( but not the East) Coast. South Coast UKIP voters from 2015 switched Labour. East Coast UKIP voters switched Conservative.
Leicester working class folk often retire to Skegness and Mablethorpe, Hunstanton and Cromer. Posher ones to the South West. Largely it is a matter of affordability.0 -
Founded?williamglenn said:
She actually called Russia "the country, which was founded on many of his precepts", which is arguably even more ignorant than just getting his nationality wrong.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
And I don't think he would have minded much what went on in warfare, which was a capitalist thing which simply wouldn't exist under communism, so why waste time making rules for its conduct?0 -
True. But what is equally ridiculous is to suggest that the gangsters in charge of Russia now have anything at all to do with Marx. It’s just wtf?Ishmael_Z said:
I think Marx's view of Russia was that it was such a backwards shithole that it would be the last country on earth to adopt his views.JWisemann said:
Thats hilarious. Or would be if it wasn't part of a insane drive to nuclear war.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
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I very much like this recent trend of raiding offices of awful peoplewilliamglenn said:0 -
What's Rupert supposed to have done?williamglenn said:0 -
Yes, that is what I was thinking. The SW peninsula, Dorset, IOW, Sussex coasts have high house prices, pushed up by second homes and retirees. The East Coast towns much less so. Housing is cheaper, so adding to the local cycle of deprivation, as poorer people retire there.another_richard said:
I wonder if housing affordability might be a factor with the Southies having a much bigger problem than the Easties and so more open to Corbyn.Foxy said:
That is an interesting point. Is it social class related?Sean_F said:An odd feature of the last election was the way Labour did remarkably well on the South ( but not the East) Coast. South Coast UKIP voters from 2015 switched Labour. East Coast UKIP voters switched Conservative.
Leicester working class folk often retire to Skegness and Mablethorpe, Hunstanton and Cromer. Posher ones to the South West. Largely it is a matter of affordability.
There are a few isolated exceptions. North Norfolk is a case in point, with Hunstanton and Cromer downmarket, Blakeney, Cley and the Burnhams all being rather Chelsea by the Sea.0 -
Which " ex-mining towns and villages" are you referring to? Aylesham is the only sizeable one. Dover and parts of Folkestone are pretty rundown as well.tlg86 said:
I stayed inland during the 2016 Open at Troon. Some of those towns and villages appeared very depressed.another_richard said:
Ex-mining towns vary.Casino_Royale said:
I agree. I think ex-mining towns are a much bigger challenge.JosiasJessop said:A brilliant article. Thanks, Alastair. I wish I could say my somewhat close knowledge of much of our coast gave me any insight into the problems and their solutions, but it does not.
I might add other inland areas face worse problems; for instance some Welsh ex-mining areas, which do not even have the advantage of good scenery and sea views.
Yet as you point out, the decline can be reversed. Some places are doing good things, and there must be studies somewhere out there that outline what the successful ones are doing compared to the unsuccessful ones.
Those in Yorkshire, Lancashire and the Midlands are centrally located and are on communication routes and so have been able to attract new investment and/or become bases for commuting.
The more isolated coalfields in South Wales, Scotland and the North-East have greater difficulties.
I'd say the same about some of the ex-mining towns and villages in Kent which I saw when I went to the 2011 Open at Sandwich,0 -
The worst thing is: for my last two posts I was blithely assuming she must be American, and a Trump appointment.DavidL said:
True. But what is equally ridiculous is to suggest that the gangsters in charge of Russia now have anything at all to do with Marx. It’s just wtf?Ishmael_Z said:
I think Marx's view of Russia was that it was such a backwards shithole that it would be the last country on earth to adopt his views.JWisemann said:
Thats hilarious. Or would be if it wasn't part of a insane drive to nuclear war.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
An embarrassing time to be British.0 -
How wonderfully quaint. You think he needs to have done something?GIN1138 said:
What's Rupert supposed to have done?williamglenn said:0 -
And she ate all the Ferraro Roche’s. What sort of ambassador is that?Ishmael_Z said:
The worst thing is: for my last two posts I was blithely assuming she must be American, and a Trump appointment.DavidL said:
True. But what is equally ridiculous is to suggest that the gangsters in charge of Russia now have anything at all to do with Marx. It’s just wtf?Ishmael_Z said:
I think Marx's view of Russia was that it was such a backwards shithole that it would be the last country on earth to adopt his views.JWisemann said:
Thats hilarious. Or would be if it wasn't part of a insane drive to nuclear war.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
An embarrassing time to be British.0 -
That looks like a bad tribute act to Absolutely Fabulous.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
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First they came for the billionaire media magnates, and you said nothing because you are not a billionaire media magnate...bigjohnowls said:
I very much like this recent trend of raiding offices of awful peoplewilliamglenn said:0 -
It seems mostly paywalled, but to do with forming a sports broadcasting cartel.GIN1138 said:
What's Rupert supposed to have done?williamglenn said:0 -
And so secretively too.Foxy said:
It seems mostly paywalled, but to do with forming a sports broadcasting cartel.GIN1138 said:
What's Rupert supposed to have done?williamglenn said:0 -
I think Elsie Tanner's quote is appropriate both professionally and personally.Casino_Royale said:
That looks like a bad tribute act to Absolutely Fabulous.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
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you mean raiding the offices of people you don't likebigjohnowls said:
I very much like this recent trend of raiding offices of awful peoplewilliamglenn said:0 -
I said nothing!!!Ishmael_Z said:
First they came for the billionaire media magnates, and you said nothing because you are not a billionaire media magnate...bigjohnowls said:
I very much like this recent trend of raiding offices of awful peoplewilliamglenn said:
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Quite. These people are mental. Thanks to these idiots we get to pay 2 or even 3 subscriptions for sports channels instead of 1. What is the consumer going to do without their help?kle4 said:
And so secretively too.Foxy said:
It seems mostly paywalled, but to do with forming a sports broadcasting cartel.GIN1138 said:
What's Rupert supposed to have done?williamglenn said:0 -
Cartel would have thought better of Rupert surely notFoxy said:
It seems mostly paywalled, but to do with forming a sports broadcasting cartel.GIN1138 said:
What's Rupert supposed to have done?williamglenn said:0 -
PreciselyFloater said:
you mean raiding the offices of people you don't likebigjohnowls said:
I very much like this recent trend of raiding offices of awful peoplewilliamglenn said:
Are you in favour of Sports Rights Cartels?
I thought you liked Capitalism not Fixed Markets?0 -
There are suggestions that airlines have been requested to alter flightpaths in the region around Syria.
There are also suggestion is that overfly agreements for US (and we assume other) assets targeting Syria have been agreed from the North, South and East.
Both these are unconfirmed but I've posted on the likelihood that, whilst attention is focused on a missile strike from the Med, the US are likely to be able to and will deliver from more than one direction if this goes ahead. If those arrangements have been confirmed either a) plans call for a physical penetration of Syrian airspace and/or b) a right to the border route then launch stand off weapons. Bear in mind the US flies in Syria day in day out east of the Euphrates.
As for the UK's potential involvement, with what, doing what? Whilst I get the principle of putting the users of chemical weapons back in their box, in practical terms the most useful assets are rotational AWACS, ISTAR, ELINT and a rather large airbase in Cyprus. Otherwise ain't nothing substantive or novel to bring to the party unless we see a particularly notable attack aircraft deployment. Regional parties with an interest could bring more interesting numbers.
Of course, that assumes any strike is going to be genuinely heavy with multiple phases (not just bigger than the US effort in April 17), even if it is in as little the 8-24 hour region of action.
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You pay reallyDavidL said:
Quite. These people are mental. Thanks to these idiots we get to pay 2 or even 3 subscriptions for sports channels instead of 1. What is the consumer going to do without their help?kle4 said:
And so secretively too.Foxy said:
It seems mostly paywalled, but to do with forming a sports broadcasting cartel.GIN1138 said:
What's Rupert supposed to have done?williamglenn said:
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Don't you have a TV licence ?bigjohnowls said:
You pay reallyDavidL said:
Quite. These people are mental. Thanks to these idiots we get to pay 2 or even 3 subscriptions for sports channels instead of 1. What is the consumer going to do without their help?kle4 said:
And so secretively too.Foxy said:
It seems mostly paywalled, but to do with forming a sports broadcasting cartel.GIN1138 said:
What's Rupert supposed to have done?williamglenn said:
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Brighton and St Ives are examples of seaside towns which have really reinvented themselves successfully as homes for chic bohemian artists with museums and galleries and excellent restaurants and in the case of Brighton nightlife which attracts former Londoners.
Blackpool and Hastings though and many other such towns have failed to really move beyond their dependence on the pier and summer tourism season, a market which has declined rapidly as flights to Spain etc have become the norm.
Theatre and arts and food are certainly one way to help revive them, Southend for example has the excellent Cliffs Pavilion Theatre and Padstow is renowned for its Rick Stein restaurant.
Even Blackpool could become a mini UK Vegas if it was allowed the Supercasinos it really needs to attract punters which it could combine with shows in the Ballroom0 -
Apparently Karen Pierce has a BA and MA in English from Girton College, Cambridge (don't tell TSE)Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
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I think I might have to resub to Sky for a bit, new house has no aerial and plugging in the twin cables doesn't seem to produce a signal.bigjohnowls said:
You pay reallyDavidL said:
Quite. These people are mental. Thanks to these idiots we get to pay 2 or even 3 subscriptions for sports channels instead of 1. What is the consumer going to do without their help?kle4 said:
And so secretively too.Foxy said:
It seems mostly paywalled, but to do with forming a sports broadcasting cartel.GIN1138 said:
What's Rupert supposed to have done?williamglenn said:
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When I saw this, I assumed the clothes had been photoshopped. What on Earth has happened to the FCO?Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
I can think of two major problems:
1) being involved in the conception and execution of British foreign policy is less interesting in 2018 than at any time since the mid-18th century.
2) the draw of the City.
This only reaffirms my belief that after Brexit, the upper ranks of the FCO should have been decimated. New strategies require new management.0 -
Oh!Foxy said:
It seems mostly paywalled, but to do with forming a sports broadcasting cartel.GIN1138 said:
What's Rupert supposed to have done?williamglenn said:0 -
I don't like cartels of any sort - If they have acted in such a manner and they get punished good .bigjohnowls said:
PreciselyFloater said:
you mean raiding the offices of people you don't likebigjohnowls said:
I very much like this recent trend of raiding offices of awful peoplewilliamglenn said:
Are you in favour of Sports Rights Cartels?
I thought you liked Capitalism not Fixed Markets?
But you seem to be taking a more personal view of events
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Perhaps we need a British ENA?RoyalBlue said:
When I saw this, I assumed the clothes had been photoshopped. What on Earth has happened to the FCO?Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
I can think of two major problems:
1) being involved in the conception and execution of British foreign policy is less interesting in 2018 than at any time since the mid-18th century.
2) the draw of the City.
This only reaffirms my belief that after Brexit, the upper ranks of the FCO should have been decimated. New strategies require new management.0 -
I would have thought post Brexit British foreign policy is more important than ever while as we are leaving the single market the City will see a relative declineRoyalBlue said:
When I saw this, I assumed the clothes had been photoshopped. What on Earth has happened to the FCO?Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
I can think of two major problems:
1) being involved in the conception and execution of British foreign policy is less interesting in 2018 than at any time since the mid-18th century.
2) the draw of the City.
This only reaffirms my belief that after Brexit, the upper ranks of the FCO should have been decimated. New strategies require new management.0 -
She went to Cambridge which is as close to a British ENA as anywilliamglenn said:
Perhaps we need a British ENA?RoyalBlue said:
When I saw this, I assumed the clothes had been photoshopped. What on Earth has happened to the FCO?Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
I can think of two major problems:
1) being involved in the conception and execution of British foreign policy is less interesting in 2018 than at any time since the mid-18th century.
2) the draw of the City.
This only reaffirms my belief that after Brexit, the upper ranks of the FCO should have been decimated. New strategies require new management.0 -
There are stories of a lot of flying metal on the Syrian-Jordanian and Syrian-Iraqi border. Unconfirmed.
It is fair to say that stories of overflight agreements mentioned both Iraq and Jordan so its feasible.
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Which might be justification for import restrictions on certain items coming from conflict zones.Foxy said:
Trafficking in stolen antiquities is a major source of income for Terrorism and organised crime, particularly with recent instability across the Middle East and North Africa:Mortimer said:
Currently, the EU are trying to pass barmy legislation ('anti terror', apparently - though what printed books from 1767 have to do with terror funding, no-one seems to be able to say) that could cripple the entire antiques industry.Bromptonaut said:Party of small business my arse.
https://twitter.com/chrisgreybrexit/status/983425043324723202?s=21
Your move.
https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/specialseries/2017/02/art-trafficking-170228090044987.html
Not restricting the free importation back into the EU of books published in France, or Britain, in 1767 or before, regardless of value, or western furniture.
Or, showing how hilariously little those who drafted the proposed legislation know about the market, the importation of stamps and photographs produced before 1767.0 -
If we are going to do that... HmmmmFloater said:
you mean raiding the offices of people you don't likebigjohnowls said:
I very much like this recent trend of raiding offices of awful peoplewilliamglenn said:
1) Surprise election result, beating the polling
2) Strangely Putin friendly
3) His backroom chaps boast of their Social Media savey - we all know what that means, eh? eh?
4) All the Russian internet trolls back him
When are the armed raid on Corbyn be starting? When will his lawyers be arrested? etc....0 -
Take note of the 21st November this year. The way we're going about things in Syria, I fear for what is going to happen there:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong-economics-upcoming-events/world-economic-conference/the-coming-pi-target-will-it-bring-world-war-iii/0 -
If you looked to the Med, the US have limited assets at this point. Lots of cruise missiles but nothing else unless its coming from long range, but then everyone including the Russians have been looking that way. Look at every other direction and you have notable US combat power. Thus assets are in place to act, but they need fly over permissions.Floater said:
You think its going down tonight?Y0kel said:There are stories of a lot of flying metal on the Syrian-Jordanian and Syrian-Iraqi border. Unconfirmed.
It is fair to say that stories of overflight agreements mentioned both Iraq and Jordan so its feasible.
It also has to be borne in mind that the US has its own people in Eastern Syria so it could equally be a show of force there. They fly there day in and day out.
Only when he hear explosions or indeed when we get an indication of how much metal is up there can we really know whether this is the beginning of an actual strike.0 -
Can't speak for Hastings, etc., but Blackpool has an image problem. Tried for too long to be all things to all people...HYUFD said:Brighton and St Ives are examples of seaside towns which have really reinvented themselves successfully as homes for chic bohemian artists with museums and galleries and excellent restaurants and in the case of Brighton nightlife which attracts former Londoners.
Blackpool and Hastings though and many other such towns have failed to really move beyond their dependence on the pier and summer tourism season, a market which has declined rapidly as flights to Spain etc have become the norm.
Theatre and arts and food are certainly one way to help revive them, Southend for example has the excellent Cliffs Pavilion Theatre and Padstow is renowned for its Rick Stein restaurant.
Even Blackpool could become a mini UK Vegas if it was allowed the Supercasinos it really needs to attract punters which it could combine with shows in the Ballroom
Has a seriously impressive rollercoaster park, aquarium, and of course the Tower, and in particular the Ballroom, which is exquisite. Also has decent venues for comedy and musicals, plus the Illuminations.
BUT. Has far too many chip shops, strip clubs and tat shops. Too much bargain basement accomodation.
Needs to specialise on a few quality things to attract day visitors/weekenders, rather than pretend you can spend a week there happily.0 -
Presumably something to do with Finchley Road?hunchman said:Take note of the 21st November this year. The way we're going about things in Syria, I fear for what is going to happen there:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong-economics-upcoming-events/world-economic-conference/the-coming-pi-target-will-it-bring-world-war-iii/
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Harsh. But damned funny.....DavidL said:
And she ate all the Ferraro Roche’s. What sort of ambassador is that?Ishmael_Z said:
The worst thing is: for my last two posts I was blithely assuming she must be American, and a Trump appointment.DavidL said:
True. But what is equally ridiculous is to suggest that the gangsters in charge of Russia now have anything at all to do with Marx. It’s just wtf?Ishmael_Z said:
I think Marx's view of Russia was that it was such a backwards shithole that it would be the last country on earth to adopt his views.JWisemann said:
Thats hilarious. Or would be if it wasn't part of a insane drive to nuclear war.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
An embarrassing time to be British.0 -
As I said it should try and be the Vegas of Britain, tat works fine for them combined with lots of shows and plenty of gambling which can make for a fun weekend break, a good destination for stag dos and hen nights etc, as you say if people want a more refined coastal break in the UK they will go to Cornwall or Devon, Suffolk or Brightondixiedean said:
Can't speak for Hastings, etc., but Blackpool has an image problem. Tried for too long to be all things to all people...HYUFD said:Brighton and St Ives are examples of seaside towns which have really reinvented themselves successfully as homes for chic bohemian artists with museums and galleries and excellent restaurants and in the case of Brighton nightlife which attracts former Londoners.
Blackpool and Hastings though and many other such towns have failed to really move beyond their dependence on the pier and summer tourism season, a market which has declined rapidly as flights to Spain etc have become the norm.
Theatre and arts and food are certainly one way to help revive them, Southend for example has the excellent Cliffs Pavilion Theatre and Padstow is renowned for its Rick Stein restaurant.
Even Blackpool could become a mini UK Vegas if it was allowed the Supercasinos it really needs to attract punters which it could combine with shows in the Ballroom
Has a seriously impressive rollercoaster park, aquarium, and of course the Tower, and in particular the Ballroom, which is exquisite. Also has decent venues for comedy and musicals, plus the Illuminations.
BUT. Has far too many chip shops, strip clubs and tat shops. Too much bargain basement accomodation.
Needs to specialise on a few quality things to attract day visitors/weekenders, rather than pretend you can spend a week there happily.0 -
If you divide the current inflation rate by pi you will learn just how close you are.Mortimer said:
Presumably something to do with Finchley Road?hunchman said:Take note of the 21st November this year. The way we're going about things in Syria, I fear for what is going to happen there:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong-economics-upcoming-events/world-economic-conference/the-coming-pi-target-will-it-bring-world-war-iii/0 -
I suppose if the Russian Ambassador gets too uppity she could always sit on him...MarqueeMark said:
Harsh. But damned funny.....DavidL said:
And she ate all the Ferraro Roche’s. What sort of ambassador is that?Ishmael_Z said:
The worst thing is: for my last two posts I was blithely assuming she must be American, and a Trump appointment.DavidL said:
True. But what is equally ridiculous is to suggest that the gangsters in charge of Russia now have anything at all to do with Marx. It’s just wtf?Ishmael_Z said:
I think Marx's view of Russia was that it was such a backwards shithole that it would be the last country on earth to adopt his views.JWisemann said:
Thats hilarious. Or would be if it wasn't part of a insane drive to nuclear war.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
An embarrassing time to be British.0 -
It also has a dire climate, which no end of regeneration can fix.dixiedean said:
Can't speak for Hastings, etc., but Blackpool has an image problem. Tried for too long to be all things to all people...HYUFD said:Brighton and St Ives are examples of seaside towns which have really reinvented themselves successfully as homes for chic bohemian artists with museums and galleries and excellent restaurants and in the case of Brighton nightlife which attracts former Londoners.
Blackpool and Hastings though and many other such towns have failed to really move beyond their dependence on the pier and summer tourism season, a market which has declined rapidly as flights to Spain etc have become the norm.
Theatre and arts and food are certainly one way to help revive them, Southend for example has the excellent Cliffs Pavilion Theatre and Padstow is renowned for its Rick Stein restaurant.
Even Blackpool could become a mini UK Vegas if it was allowed the Supercasinos it really needs to attract punters which it could combine with shows in the Ballroom
Has a seriously impressive rollercoaster park, aquarium, and of course the Tower, and in particular the Ballroom, which is exquisite. Also has decent venues for comedy and musicals, plus the Illuminations.
BUT. Has far too many chip shops, strip clubs and tat shops. Too much bargain basement accomodation.
Needs to specialise on a few quality things to attract day visitors/weekenders, rather than pretend you can spend a week there happily.0 -
Are we sure this is reported accurately? It seems a strange thing to say, let alone whether historically accurate.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/9837987119260549120 -
Surely nobody flies over Syria normally ?!
https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/983836770700689408?s=210 -
This is the actual clip. She's slightly misquoted above but the reality doesn't make it any better.FF43 said:
Are we sure this is reported accurately? It seems a strange thing to say, let alone whether historically accurate.Theuniondivvie said:Apparently Marx was Russian.
Who knew?
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/983798711926054912
https://twitter.com/_CtP__/status/9838079356072919040 -
Interesting that you name the big coastal cities but miss Gold Coast, which is Australia's sicth biggest city and where the Commonwelath Games are currently being hosted.rcs1000 said:I don't think it would require the sea to come in 50km in Australia. The cities of Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide , Cairns and Darwin are all on the coast. Only Canberra (1.8% of Australia's population) is meaningfully inland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Australia_by_population
I wonder if there is a comparable place in the Anglo world which has 'sneaked up' without entering general public knowledge.0 -
Is ambassador going through a transformation ?0
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It doesnt have a lot of traffic this time of the day (or indeed generally) so that would indeed not be much of an indicator.TGOHF said:Surely nobody flies over Syria normally ?!
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Which is true. However, some will go to America to visit Six Flags, or spend all afternoon at Alton Towers queueing to ride. While they won't go to Blackpool 'cos of its image. Weather doesn't come into it. It doesn't sell its USP.Anazina said:
It also has a dire climate, which no end of regeneration can fix.dixiedean said:
Can't speak for Hastings, etc., but Blackpool has an image problem. Tried for too long to be all things to all people...HYUFD said:Brighton and St Ives are examples of seaside towns which have really reinvented themselves successfully as homes for chic bohemian artists with museums and galleries and excellent restaurants and in the case of Brighton nightlife which attracts former Londoners.
Blackpool and Hastings though and many other such towns have failed to really move beyond their dependence on the pier and summer tourism season, a market which has declined rapidly as flights to Spain etc have become the norm.
Theatre and arts and food are certainly one way to help revive them, Southend for example has the excellent Cliffs Pavilion Theatre and Padstow is renowned for its Rick Stein restaurant.
Even Blackpool could become a mini UK Vegas if it was allowed the Supercasinos it really needs to attract punters which it could combine with shows in the Ballroom
Has a seriously impressive rollercoaster park, aquarium, and of course the Tower, and in particular the Ballroom, which is exquisite. Also has decent venues for comedy and musicals, plus the Illuminations.
BUT. Has far too many chip shops, strip clubs and tat shops. Too much bargain basement accomodation.
Needs to specialise on a few quality things to attract day visitors/weekenders, rather than pretend you can spend a week there happily.
Coasters, trip up the Tower, show, home the next day.0 -
Plus on the odd occasion we do get a scorching hot summer day Blackpool Beach is packeddixiedean said:
Which is true. However, some will go to America to visit Six Flags, or spend all afternoon at Alton Towers queueing to ride. While they won't go to Blackpool 'cos of its image. Weather doesn't come into it. It doesn't sell its USP.Anazina said:
It also has a dire climate, which no end of regeneration can fix.dixiedean said:
Can't speak for Hastings, etc., but Blackpool has an image problem. Tried for too long to be all things to all people...HYUFD said:Brighton and St Ives are examples of seaside towns which have really reinvented themselves successfully as homes for chic bohemian artists with museums and galleries and excellent restaurants and in the case of Brighton nightlife which attracts former Londoners.
Blackpool and Hastings though and many other such towns have failed to really move beyond their dependence on the pier and summer tourism season, a market which has declined rapidly as flights to Spain etc have become the norm.
Theatre and arts and food are certainly one way to help revive them, Southend for example has the excellent Cliffs Pavilion Theatre and Padstow is renowned for its Rick Stein restaurant.
Even Blackpool could become a mini UK Vegas if it was allowed the Supercasinos it really needs to attract punters which it could combine with shows in the Ballroom
Has a seriously impressive rollercoaster park, aquarium, and of course the Tower, and in particular the Ballroom, which is exquisite. Also has decent venues for comedy and musicals, plus the Illuminations.
BUT. Has far too many chip shops, strip clubs and tat shops. Too much bargain basement accomodation.
Needs to specialise on a few quality things to attract day visitors/weekenders, rather than pretend you can spend a week there happily.
Coasters, trip up the Tower, show, home the next day.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=4H/pFF8A&id=C2E70D4504D7838544F4FCCA60BC4E275658A56D&thid=OIP.4H_pFF8AqbZ9s-2ylydXcwHaFI&mediaurl=http://n7.alamy.com/zooms/c2bc78b750bd4e8fa3ab4b24ff21ff64/blackpool-august-bank-holiday-british-seaside-town-lancashire-england-f4mx5b.jpg&exph=443&expw=640&q=blackpool+beach+august&simid=607986579025694714&selectedIndex=11&ajaxhist=00 -
I do have a soft spot for Blackpool. I was amazed by it as a kid. But the contrast with Southport (which struck me as rather twee and dull then) and how they have re-invented in the past 40 years is rather striking.HYUFD said:
Plus on the odd occasion we do get a scorching hot summer day Blackpool Beach is packeddixiedean said:
Which is true. However, some will go to America to visit Six Flags, or spend all afternoon at Alton Towers queueing to ride. While they won't go to Blackpool 'cos of its image. Weather doesn't come into it. It doesn't sell its USP.Anazina said:
It also has a dire climate, which no end of regeneration can fix.dixiedean said:
Can't speak for Hastings, etc., but Blackpool has an image problem. Tried for too long to be all things to all people...HYUFD said:Brighton and St Ives are examples of seaside towns which have really reinvented themselves successfully as homes for chic bohemian artists with museums and galleries and excellent restaurants and in the case of Brighton nightlife which attracts former Londoners.
Blackpool and Hastings though and many other such towns have failed to really move beyond their dependence on the pier and summer tourism season, a market which has declined rapidly as flights to Spain etc have become the norm.
Theatre and arts and food are certainly one way to help revive them, Southend for example has the excellent Cliffs Pavilion Theatre and Padstow is renowned for its Rick Stein restaurant.
Even Blackpool could become a mini UK Vegas if it was allowed the Supercasinos it really needs to attract punters which it could combine with shows in the Ballroom
Has a seriously impressive rollercoaster park, aquarium, and of course the Tower, and in particular the Ballroom, which is exquisite. Also has decent venues for comedy and musicals, plus the Illuminations.
BUT. Has far too many chip shops, strip clubs and tat shops. Too much bargain basement accomodation.
Needs to specialise on a few quality things to attract day visitors/weekenders, rather than pretend you can spend a week there happily.
Coasters, trip up the Tower, show, home the next day.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=4H/pFF8A&id=C2E70D4504D7838544F4FCCA60BC4E275658A56D&thid=OIP.4H_pFF8AqbZ9s-2ylydXcwHaFI&mediaurl=http://n7.alamy.com/zooms/c2bc78b750bd4e8fa3ab4b24ff21ff64/blackpool-august-bank-holiday-british-seaside-town-lancashire-england-f4mx5b.jpg&exph=443&expw=640&q=blackpool+beach+august&simid=607986579025694714&selectedIndex=11&ajaxhist=0
Or maybe I am simply getting old....
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Why would you have broadcast TV? We haven't had it for four or five years and don't miss it at all. All the content you want is available over the Internet (legally), you get it when you want, and you probably save 20 to 30 quid a month.Pulpstar said:
I think I might have to resub to Sky for a bit, new house has no aerial and plugging in the twin cables doesn't seem to produce a signal.bigjohnowls said:
You pay reallyDavidL said:
Quite. These people are mental. Thanks to these idiots we get to pay 2 or even 3 subscriptions for sports channels instead of 1. What is the consumer going to do without their help?kle4 said:
And so secretively too.Foxy said:
It seems mostly paywalled, but to do with forming a sports broadcasting cartel.GIN1138 said:
What's Rupert supposed to have done?williamglenn said:
Madness0
