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http://ponyonthetories.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/housing.htmltlg86 said:
I didn't say that it didn't have an effect, just that there's a multitude of factors.TGOHF said:
Eh ?tlg86 said:
Certainly true for rents, perhaps less true for prices.Sandpit said:
If those criticising him had read economics, they’d be well aware that increasing demand while keeping supply constant leads to an increase in price.TheScreamingEagles said:
Another Oxford educated lawyer, they really are thick as mince, especially when it comes to presenting evidence to boost their case. Cf Blair and Gauke.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
You think no immigrants have bought houses ? Or that those who have become new landlords by renting out to new immigrants haven't pushed up house prices by buying for themselves and for their tennants ?
That anyone thinks Raab is incorrect shows the ignorance of economics in this country.
But the higher rents have certainly generated a sense that you have to get on the housing ladder as quickly as you can because it's actually cheaper in the short term and not just the long term. And, of course, higher rents makes saving for a deposit that much harder.
My blogpost on housing. Check the last graph for more or less proof of this.
Thankfully I'm happily moved now and (hopefully) out the game for at least another 45 or so years now.0 -
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I think you might just be right.... who knows how long it would have taken him to stop pretending to still be an MP after losing in 2015.TheScreamingEagles said:
David Cameron helped Chris Williamson lose his seat, Mrs May helped him win back his seat.Scrapheap_as_was said:Wing-nut in chief..... in a cravat?
https://twitter.com/DerbyChrisW/status/983222981995380736
Amongst his supporters agreeing with this, one of the comments seems unfortunate..
https://twitter.com/AbdulMahdiLab/status/983236051367092224
The more I think about it that might be the worst thing Mrs May has ever done, worse than sacking George Osborne, making Gavin Williamson SecDef, appointing Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill her Chiefs of Staff, and losing Dave’s majority.0 -
About 220%, but with a lot of regional variation.TheScreamingEagles said:
Does anyone know how much house prices rose over the last 25 years?Sandpit said:
If those criticising him had read economics, they’d be well aware that increasing demand while keeping supply constant leads to an increase in price.TheScreamingEagles said:
Another Oxford educated lawyer, they really are thick as mince, especially when it comes to presenting evidence to boost their case. Cf Blair and Gauke.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
Plus didn’t Robert recently post some figures showing some of the biggest rises in house prices in the UK happened when there was virtually no immigration to the UK?
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A different type of Labour leader could certainly eviscerate the Conservatives' record on defence and security issues, but Labour don't have that type of leader.0
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No-one who lives in Mid and N Essex, I’m sure, thinks there’s a lack of housebuilding. However, as I commented the other day, when new-build one-beds are advetised at £300k+ there’s a lack of affordability. And while land prices unquestionably play a part, there does seem to be a difference in costs and returns somewhere.HYUFD said:
Raab was right, immigration with lack of transition controls in 2004 certainly contributed to higher house prices added to by the downward pressure on wages for those on lower wages.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
However lack of housebuilding, banks lending too much etc all added to the problem0 -
The report does not say police cuts was the main cause of rising violent crimebigjohnowls said:
It’s difficult to know which is worse, that Rudd says she’s never read her own dept’s analysis on violent crime or knew its conclusions POLICE CUTS ‘LIKELY’ CONTRIBUTED TO SERIOUS RISE IN VIOLENT CRIME & covered it up.Incompetence or willingness to misleadHYUFD said:
Not entirely true, as TSE says the forces with the biggest rise in violent crime are not those with the biggest fall in police officers.bigjohnowls said:
Its down to Police Cuts.HYUFD said:
Will Khan be resigning too then after London saw a higher murder rate than New York last month for the first time on his watch as Mayor?SandyRentool said:So is today the day that the Home Secretary and her predecessor resign from the government and accept responsibility for their actions and the resultant increase in violent crime and murder?
The above is my submission to the 'Questions to which the answer is "No"' file.
Have you not read the Home Office report.
Either Rudd has and she lied her ass off
Or she hasnt in which case she should have
I think the former is most likely
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Cheers. So out of the 220% only 20% can be attributed to immigration.Sandpit said:
About 220%, but with a lot of regional variation.TheScreamingEagles said:
Does anyone know how much house prices rose over the last 25 years?Sandpit said:
If those criticising him had read economics, they’d be well aware that increasing demand while keeping supply constant leads to an increase in price.TheScreamingEagles said:
Another Oxford educated lawyer, they really are thick as mince, especially when it comes to presenting evidence to boost their case. Cf Blair and Gauke.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
Plus didn’t Robert recently post some figures showing some of the biggest rises in house prices in the UK happened when there was virtually no immigration to the UK?
I wonder why Raab didn’t focus on the other 200%?
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Excellent piece but the final paragraph overestimates Corbyn's humanity: I am certain that any serviceman no matter how working class or how damaged is a capitalist lackey/USA running dog/oppressor of our noble Irish brethren. See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99jclQAOT7I0
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I have got a new built 1 bed for under £300k in South Essex so there is still plenty of more affordable housing around but it is getting it built and past LD and Residents Association opposition that is the problem.OldKingCole said:
No-one who lives in Mid and N Essex, I’m sure, thinks there’s a lack of housebuilding. However, as I commented the other day, when new-build one-beds are advetised at £300k+ there’s a lack of affordability. And while land prices unquestionably play a part, there does seem to be a difference in costs and returns somewhere.HYUFD said:
Raab was right, immigration with lack of transition controls in 2004 certainly contributed to higher house prices added to by the downward pressure on wages for those on lower wages.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
However lack of housebuilding, banks lending too much etc all added to the problem0 -
Interesting. There's certainly a gut felling that fewer visible police on the street will lead to more crime, but is there hard evidence? I know there's anecdotes that putting cardboard policemen at the entrances to supermarkets reduces shoplifting, but is there any facts here?
if so, then surely more stop and search for knives and guns would also be effective? Yes, I know this politics and generally fact-free but I just thought I'd ask.0 -
The mind boggles at how 1 bed flats around 300k can possibly be called "affordable" but hey ho...HYUFD said:
I have got a new built 1 bed for under £300k in South Essex so there is still plenty of more affordable housing around but it is getting it built and past LD and Residents Association opposition that is the problem.OldKingCole said:
No-one who lives in Mid and N Essex, I’m sure, thinks there’s a lack of housebuilding. However, as I commented the other day, when new-build one-beds are advetised at £300k+ there’s a lack of affordability. And while land prices unquestionably play a part, there does seem to be a difference in costs and returns somewhere.HYUFD said:
Raab was right, immigration with lack of transition controls in 2004 certainly contributed to higher house prices added to by the downward pressure on wages for those on lower wages.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
However lack of housebuilding, banks lending too much etc all added to the problem0 -
House price inflation has been significantly impacted by interest rates on deposits for cash being negligible for such a long period. Wealthy people have put their money in a second property. The value of that property has gone up, so more have piled in - even in those places where immigration isn't a factor.0
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Mr. CD13, have vague memories of hearing that shops with a policeman sticker (life-size, I think) in the window actively deters criminals. It may simply be reminding them that they're doing illegal stuff and the store's employees are clued up.
It must be the case that less searching increases the temptation to carry a weapon (if only for self-defence). The downside, getting caught, is diminished, and if others are tooling up then being the only pacifist in the village may make you feel less safe.0 -
Rudd said it was not a factor thoughHYUFD said:
The report does not say police cuts was the main cause of rising violent crimebigjohnowls said:
It’s difficult to know which is worse, that Rudd says she’s never read her own dept’s analysis on violent crime or knew its conclusions POLICE CUTS ‘LIKELY’ CONTRIBUTED TO SERIOUS RISE IN VIOLENT CRIME & covered it up.Incompetence or willingness to misleadHYUFD said:
Not entirely true, as TSE says the forces with the biggest rise in violent crime are not those with the biggest fall in police officers.bigjohnowls said:
Its down to Police Cuts.HYUFD said:
Will Khan be resigning too then after London saw a higher murder rate than New York last month for the first time on his watch as Mayor?SandyRentool said:So is today the day that the Home Secretary and her predecessor resign from the government and accept responsibility for their actions and the resultant increase in violent crime and murder?
The above is my submission to the 'Questions to which the answer is "No"' file.
Have you not read the Home Office report.
Either Rudd has and she lied her ass off
Or she hasnt in which case she should have
I think the former is most likely
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Absolutely. Interest rates being on the floor is hugely exacerbating the problem. It’s also exacerbating the perception of the problem, as young people compare “cheap” mortgage payments to “expensive” rent payments. Also remember that interest rates have been on the floor for 9 years already, so most people under 30 know nothing else.MarqueeMark said:House price inflation has been significantly impacted by interest rates on deposits for cash being negligible for such a long period. Wealthy people have put their money in a second property. The value of that property has gone up, so more have piled in - even in those places where immigration isn't a factor.
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The average flat price in Essex is £219 000 but plenty of commuters who work in the City will pay more than £300 000 for a flatPulpstar said:
The mind boggles at how 1 bed flats around 300k can possibly be called "affordable" but hey ho...HYUFD said:
I have got a new built 1 bed for under £300k in South Essex so there is still plenty of more affordable housing around but it is getting it built and past LD and Residents Association opposition that is the problem.OldKingCole said:
No-one who lives in Mid and N Essex, I’m sure, thinks there’s a lack of housebuilding. However, as I commented the other day, when new-build one-beds are advetised at £300k+ there’s a lack of affordability. And while land prices unquestionably play a part, there does seem to be a difference in costs and returns somewhere.HYUFD said:
Raab was right, immigration with lack of transition controls in 2004 certainly contributed to higher house prices added to by the downward pressure on wages for those on lower wages.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
However lack of housebuilding, banks lending too much etc all added to the problem
https://m.zoopla.co.uk/house-prices/essex/0 -
Bloody Hell a flat can cost £300kHYUFD said:
The average flat price in Essex is £219 000 but plenty of commuters who work in the City will pay more than £300 000 for a flatPulpstar said:
The mind boggles at how 1 bed flats around 300k can possibly be called "affordable" but hey ho...HYUFD said:
I have got a new built 1 bed for under £300k in South Essex so there is still plenty of more affordable housing around but it is getting it built and past LD and Residents Association opposition that is the problem.OldKingCole said:
No-one who lives in Mid and N Essex, I’m sure, thinks there’s a lack of housebuilding. However, as I commented the other day, when new-build one-beds are advetised at £300k+ there’s a lack of affordability. And while land prices unquestionably play a part, there does seem to be a difference in costs and returns somewhere.HYUFD said:
Raab was right, immigration with lack of transition controls in 2004 certainly contributed to higher house prices added to by the downward pressure on wages for those on lower wages.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
However lack of housebuilding, banks lending too much etc all added to the problem
https://m.zoopla.co.uk/house-prices/essex/0 -
If there wasn't the increased "supply" of tenants from increased immigration that would not have been a good investment though. Direct or indirectly, immigration has driven up prices.MarqueeMark said:House price inflation has been significantly impacted by interest rates on deposits for cash being negligible for such a long period. Wealthy people have put their money in a second property. The value of that property has gone up, so more have piled in - even in those places where immigration isn't a factor.
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That, I think, is a very fair point.TGOHF said:
If there wasn't the increased "supply" of tenants from increased immigration that would not have been a good investment though. Direct or indirectly, immigration has driven up prices.MarqueeMark said:House price inflation has been significantly impacted by interest rates on deposits for cash being negligible for such a long period. Wealthy people have put their money in a second property. The value of that property has gone up, so more have piled in - even in those places where immigration isn't a factor.
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The problem with stop and search is that the vast majority find nothing so just increases any alienation already felt by those stopped. The IRA used to say the British Army was its best recruiting sergeant. Unsuccessful searches prove the gangs are right.CD13 said:Interesting. There's certainly a gut felling that fewer visible police on the street will lead to more crime, but is there hard evidence? I know there's anecdotes that putting cardboard policemen at the entrances to supermarkets reduces shoplifting, but is there any facts here?
if so, then surely more stop and search for knives and guns would also be effective? Yes, I know this politics and generally fact-free but I just thought I'd ask.
But suppose that some new technology emerges so that only those carrying knives are stopped and searched (actually, is that possible? Some sort of AI-assisted metal detector?) so that only those actually carrying knives are stopped -- well, even that might not change things very much.
Look at the incentives faced by the knife-carrier contemplating leaving his knife at home. The chances of being stopped and searched are still remote, but the penalty for facing an armed opponent is death.0 -
I'm looking to buy in south London.
I can expect to pay ~£850pcm for a one bed flat in rent.
The alternative is looking to buy. I could get a 2 bed flat for £350,000, which at five year fixed is £750pcm in interest (and £750pcm in capital repayment) which is cheaper than the rent on a place half the size.
Of course, I do require £40k up front and ~£65k p.a. income for the mortgage. I am one of the fortunate few, insofar as soon I will be able to afford it (d.v.). But that's about peak performance for many couples.
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The google maps view of east London 'gardens' is always good for a laugh and gives some idea of where the "extra" people in the UK are fitted.tlg86 said:
That, I think, is a very fair point.TGOHF said:
If there wasn't the increased "supply" of tenants from increased immigration that would not have been a good investment though. Direct or indirectly, immigration has driven up prices.MarqueeMark said:House price inflation has been significantly impacted by interest rates on deposits for cash being negligible for such a long period. Wealthy people have put their money in a second property. The value of that property has gone up, so more have piled in - even in those places where immigration isn't a factor.
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Plus all the living rooms that aren't in what should be two-bed flats right across London.Pulpstar said:
The google maps view of east London 'gardens' is always good for a laugh and gives some idea of where the "extra" people in the UK are fitted.tlg86 said:
That, I think, is a very fair point.TGOHF said:
If there wasn't the increased "supply" of tenants from increased immigration that would not have been a good investment though. Direct or indirectly, immigration has driven up prices.MarqueeMark said:House price inflation has been significantly impacted by interest rates on deposits for cash being negligible for such a long period. Wealthy people have put their money in a second property. The value of that property has gone up, so more have piled in - even in those places where immigration isn't a factor.
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In Kensington and Chelsea the average flat price is £1.6 millionbigjohnowls said:
Bloody Hell a flat can cost £300kHYUFD said:
The average flat price in Essex is £219 000 but plenty of commuters who work in the City will pay more than £300 000 for a flatPulpstar said:
The mind boggles at how 1 bed flats around 300k can possibly be called "affordable" but hey ho...HYUFD said:
I have got a new built 1 bed for under £300k in South Essex so there is still plenty of more affordable housing around but it is getting it built and past LD and Residents Association opposition that is the problem.OldKingCole said:
No-one who lives in Mid and N Essex, I’m sure, thinks there’s a lack of housebuilding. However, as I commented the other day, when new-build one-beds are advetised at £300k+ there’s a lack of affordability. And while land prices unquestionably play a part, there does seem to be a difference in costs and returns somewhere.HYUFD said:
Raab was right, immigration with lack of transition controls in 2004 certainly contributed to higher house prices added to by the downward pressure on wages for those on lower wages.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
However lack of housebuilding, banks lending too much etc all added to the problem
https://m.zoopla.co.uk/house-prices/essex/
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The three year tours are one of the biggest issues with procurement and program management. The first year is spent working out what the fuck is going on, the second year is the only productive period and third is spent trying to get posted as the defence attache to Canberra.Morris_Dancer said:
There needs to be a culture change, where a tour in procurement immediately after a command or combat tour is seen as the final leavening before promotion, with an intervening training course in acquisition and programme management skills. Maybe that would help.
The US, who are by no means perfect at procurement but a hell of a lot better than the UK, post officers to procurement efforts on different terms. They stay in position with the project until it complete and own the result. There is much more continuity of management and it's seen as a career maker for aspirant talent rather than a boring detour on the way to something more interesting.0 -
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Mr. Ace, there's something awry with the quote. It seems perfectly sensible*, but I didn't say it.
*Some scurrilous curs would assert that that should've been your first clue it wasn't me.0 -
Yes and no. It is not just supply and demand. Housing benefits effectively place a floor under rents. Though intended to help tenants, they also subsidise landlords.TGOHF said:
If there wasn't the increased "supply" of tenants from increased immigration that would not have been a good investment though. Direct or indirectly, immigration has driven up prices.MarqueeMark said:House price inflation has been significantly impacted by interest rates on deposits for cash being negligible for such a long period. Wealthy people have put their money in a second property. The value of that property has gone up, so more have piled in - even in those places where immigration isn't a factor.
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Would have happened anyway. The increased "supply" of tenants just made it a no-brainer as a safe haven for otherwise unproductive cash.TGOHF said:
If there wasn't the increased "supply" of tenants from increased immigration that would not have been a good investment though. Direct or indirectly, immigration has driven up prices.MarqueeMark said:House price inflation has been significantly impacted by interest rates on deposits for cash being negligible for such a long period. Wealthy people have put their money in a second property. The value of that property has gone up, so more have piled in - even in those places where immigration isn't a factor.
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Incorrect, she acknowledged that it was a factor but also, rightly because that seems to be what the report said also, said that there were other factors. As I remember it, the leaked report, as stated, didn't say it was the primary factor. But perhaps you can correct me if you have a copy of said leaked report in front of you?bigjohnowls said:
Rudd said it was not a factor thoughHYUFD said:
The report does not say police cuts was the main cause of rising violent crimebigjohnowls said:
It’s difficult to know which is worse, that Rudd says she’s never read her own dept’s analysis on violent crime or knew its conclusions POLICE CUTS ‘LIKELY’ CONTRIBUTED TO SERIOUS RISE IN VIOLENT CRIME & covered it up.Incompetence or willingness to misleadHYUFD said:
Not entirely true, as TSE says the forces with the biggest rise in violent crime are not those with the biggest fall in police officers.bigjohnowls said:
Its down to Police Cuts.HYUFD said:
Will Khan be resigning too then after London saw a higher murder rate than New York last month for the first time on his watch as Mayor?SandyRentool said:So is today the day that the Home Secretary and her predecessor resign from the government and accept responsibility for their actions and the resultant increase in violent crime and murder?
The above is my submission to the 'Questions to which the answer is "No"' file.
Have you not read the Home Office report.
Either Rudd has and she lied her ass off
Or she hasnt in which case she should have
I think the former is most likely
More stop and search and dealing with minor crime first and a 'broken windows' policy is all part of the solution0 -
How many of them, like me, would be happy with a referendum on a Noel Edmunds basis?Anazina said:0 -
Not. Gonna. Happen.Anazina said:0 -
Mr. Mark, Grieve's 'meaningful vote' makes it a possibility, though I agree it's unlikely.
The man in question saying he had no idea what would happen if a negotiated deal were voted down does not speak well of him.0 -
Sorry to hear you are pretty angry... I was interest to read your contention on the last thread that Russia has been warning about a false flag action in Douma; why, it’s almost as if they knew it was going to happen.JWisemann said:Pretty angry right now that the corrupt and discredited transatlantic security establishment seems determined to push us to the brink of nuclear war to protect our jihadi army in Syria. They need to accept they lost and we should have never supported genocidal salafist jihadis in the first place, and move on.
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Rudd vs Raab. Is it possible to produce a consistent defence of both ministers? One who exaggerated a single causal factor while the other denied one.0
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If Russia is behind it then not sending in British gunboats seems like a sound policy. Let's leave this one to the Americans and not worry too much if the government's current position on the need to gather evidence sounds alarmingly Corbynite.Rexel56 said:
Sorry to hear you are pretty angry... I was interest to read your contention on the last thread that Russia has been warning about a false flag action in Douma; why, it’s almost as if they knew it was going to happen.JWisemann said:Pretty angry right now that the corrupt and discredited transatlantic security establishment seems determined to push us to the brink of nuclear war to protect our jihadi army in Syria. They need to accept they lost and we should have never supported genocidal salafist jihadis in the first place, and move on.
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You can get a luxury 2 bed apartment directly overlooking the sea and coast for about £325,000 herebigjohnowls said:
Bloody Hell a flat can cost £300kHYUFD said:
The average flat price in Essex is £219 000 but plenty of commuters who work in the City will pay more than £300 000 for a flatPulpstar said:
The mind boggles at how 1 bed flats around 300k can possibly be called "affordable" but hey ho...HYUFD said:
I have got a new built 1 bed for under £300k in South Essex so there is still plenty of more affordable housing around but it is getting it built and past LD and Residents Association opposition that is the problem.OldKingCole said:
No-one who lives in Mid and N Essex, I’m sure, thinks there’s a lack of housebuilding. However, as I commented the other day, when new-build one-beds are advetised at £300k+ there’s a lack of affordability. And while land prices unquestionably play a part, there does seem to be a difference in costs and returns somewhere.HYUFD said:
Raab was right, immigration with lack of transition controls in 2004 certainly contributed to higher house prices added to by the downward pressure on wages for those on lower wages.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
However lack of housebuilding, banks lending too much etc all added to the problem
https://m.zoopla.co.uk/house-prices/essex/0 -
After Cameron and Osborne, who have left the field of battle, Grieve has been the most damaged by the Referendum.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Mark, Grieve's 'meaningful vote' makes it a possibility, though I agree it's unlikely.
The man in question saying he had no idea what would happen if a negotiated deal were voted down does not speak well of him.0 -
Less than 50% do and irrelevant anyway while the Tories and Corbyn Labour oppose a second EU referendumAnazina said:0 -
Interesting development if true. Message intercepted between Syria and Moscow on the day of the Salisbury attacks: “The package has been delivered, two people have made a successful egress”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5593803/RAF-spooks-intercepted-Russian-message-Skripals-posioned.html0 -
Surely the interesting development is that it has been leaked.Sandpit said:Interesting development if true. Message intercepted between Syria and Moscow on the day of the Salisbury attacks: “The package has been delivered, two people have made a successful egress”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5593803/RAF-spooks-intercepted-Russian-message-Skripals-posioned.html0 -
Why would Syria be involved in directing KGB assassins? It makes no sense.Sandpit said:Interesting development if true. Message intercepted between Syria and Moscow on the day of the Salisbury attacks: “The package has been delivered, two people have made a successful egress”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5593803/RAF-spooks-intercepted-Russian-message-Skripals-posioned.html0 -
Emphasises, does it not, the gulf between some at least City salaries and ‘others”?bigjohnowls said:
Bloody Hell a flat can cost £300kHYUFD said:
The average flat price in Essex is £219 000 but plenty of commuters who work in the City will pay more than £300 000 for a flatPulpstar said:
The mind boggles at how 1 bed flats around 300k can possibly be called "affordable" but hey ho...HYUFD said:
I have got a new built 1 bed for under £300k in South Essex so there is still plenty of more affordable housing around but it is getting it built and past LD and Residents Association opposition that is the problem.OldKingCole said:
No-one who lives in Mid and N Essex, I’m sure, thinks there’s a lack of housebuilding. However, as I commented the other day, when new-build one-beds are advetised at £300k+ there’s a lack of affordability. And while land prices unquestionably play a part, there does seem to be a difference in costs and returns somewhere.HYUFD said:
Raab was right, immigration with lack of transition controls in 2004 certainly contributed to higher house prices added to by the downward pressure on wages for those on lower wages.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
However lack of housebuilding, banks lending too much etc all added to the problem
https://m.zoopla.co.uk/house-prices/essex/
My teacher grandson and his fiancee have bought....are buying on a mortgage, having had some help with the deposit......a two bed former council house in SE Essex for (IIRC) £260k. Which they can just afford, assuming there isn’t a significant rise in the cost of mortgages too soon. They both know they could do better elsewhere, but there are good family reasons why they want to stay in that area.0 -
Plenty of Russkies in Syria as we know, and presumably they didn’t fly straight back to Moscow to make it more difficult to work out who was responsible.DecrepitJohnL said:
Why would Syria be involved in directing KGB assassins? It makes no sense.Sandpit said:Interesting development if true. Message intercepted between Syria and Moscow on the day of the Salisbury attacks: “The package has been delivered, two people have made a successful egress”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5593803/RAF-spooks-intercepted-Russian-message-Skripals-posioned.html
Last time the Bear f’ed up on British soil, they left a radioactive trail pointing straight back at the perps.0 -
The only sense in which he's blundered is in daring to oppose one of the liberal elite's most cherished beliefs which is that immigration hasn't driven up house prices.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
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1. From Syria doesn't necessarily mean Syrians. 2. It wouldn't be the first time Russia has acted with another state to poison someone.DecrepitJohnL said:
Why would Syria be involved in directing KGB assassins? It makes no sense.Sandpit said:Interesting development if true. Message intercepted between Syria and Moscow on the day of the Salisbury attacks: “The package has been delivered, two people have made a successful egress”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5593803/RAF-spooks-intercepted-Russian-message-Skripals-posioned.html0 -
Twaddle. Grieve is a hero and a champion for democracy and the rule of law.MarqueeMark said:
After Cameron and Osborne, who have left the field of battle, Grieve has been the most damaged by the Referendum.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Mark, Grieve's 'meaningful vote' makes it a possibility, though I agree it's unlikely.
The man in question saying he had no idea what would happen if a negotiated deal were voted down does not speak well of him.0 -
Or, the Russians wanted it to be intercepted (or at least didn't care) and were testing whether MI6 were listening.Sandpit said:
Plenty of Russkies in Syria as we know, and presumably they didn’t fly straight back to Moscow to make it more difficult to work out who was responsible.DecrepitJohnL said:
Why would Syria be involved in directing KGB assassins? It makes no sense.Sandpit said:Interesting development if true. Message intercepted between Syria and Moscow on the day of the Salisbury attacks: “The package has been delivered, two people have made a successful egress”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5593803/RAF-spooks-intercepted-Russian-message-Skripals-posioned.html
Last time the Bear f’ed up on British soil, they left a radioactive trail pointing straight back at the perps.0 -
They have only got this result by failing to make clear on the first question that a vote to reject the deal would mean Britain stays in the EU on current terms, which isn’t even in the British government’s gift. They separated the two questions on accept/reject the deal and EU membership to get the result they want.Anazina said:
It’s highly disengenuous.0 -
And yet he's lost the sod on which to standStark_Dawning said:
Twaddle. Grieve is a hero and a champion for democracy and the rule of law.MarqueeMark said:
After Cameron and Osborne, who have left the field of battle, Grieve has been the most damaged by the Referendum.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Mark, Grieve's 'meaningful vote' makes it a possibility, though I agree it's unlikely.
The man in question saying he had no idea what would happen if a negotiated deal were voted down does not speak well of him.0 -
TBH I thought immigration had helped housebuilding by providing a great deal of labour at reduced prices.AndyJS said:
The only sense in which he's blundered is in daring to oppose one of the liberal elite's most cherished beliefs which is that immigration hasn't driven up house prices.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/9832551736518123520 -
They are not mutually contradictory!OldKingCole said:
TBH I thought immigration had helped housebuilding by providing a great deal of labour at reduced prices.AndyJS said:
The only sense in which he's blundered is in daring to oppose one of the liberal elite's most cherished beliefs which is that immigration hasn't driven up house prices.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/9832551736518123520 -
O/t, but a slightly different take on elderly people and conservative voting. It’s from Third Age Matters, the magazine of the U3a.
People in affluent areas, or who see themselves as affluent tend to vote Conservative.
Women tend, or at least tended, to vote Conservative.
People in affluent areas tend to live longer than those in less affluent ones.
Women live longer that men.
Hence in the the population over 65 there is an inherent skew towards Conservative voting.0 -
LOL. Not entirely!TheWhiteRabbit said:
They are not mutually contradictory!OldKingCole said:
TBH I thought immigration had helped housebuilding by providing a great deal of labour at reduced prices.AndyJS said:
The only sense in which he's blundered is in daring to oppose one of the liberal elite's most cherished beliefs which is that immigration hasn't driven up house prices.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
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Possibly, although I’m not sure they understand what exactly GCHQ do all day.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Or, the Russians wanted it to be intercepted (or at least didn't care) and were testing whether MI6 were listening.Sandpit said:
Plenty of Russkies in Syria as we know, and presumably they didn’t fly straight back to Moscow to make it more difficult to work out who was responsible.DecrepitJohnL said:
Why would Syria be involved in directing KGB assassins? It makes no sense.Sandpit said:Interesting development if true. Message intercepted between Syria and Moscow on the day of the Salisbury attacks: “The package has been delivered, two people have made a successful egress”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5593803/RAF-spooks-intercepted-Russian-message-Skripals-posioned.html
Last time the Bear f’ed up on British soil, they left a radioactive trail pointing straight back at the perps.
I still don’t think they knew we’d work out what exactly was the chemical weapon, ignoring the fact that the identity of the primary victim gave a bloody big clue as to who might have been responsible.0 -
Word how the so-called 'democrats' of the brexiteer right are scared of the people. Are they afraid of the electorate changing their minds? It would seem so!MarqueeMark said:
Not. Gonna. Happen.Anazina said:0 -
According to 'RoyalBlue' – an anonymous bloke on the internet.RoyalBlue said:
They have only got this result by failing to make clear on the first question that a vote to reject the deal would mean Britain stays in the EU on current terms, which isn’t even in the British government’s gift. They separated the two questions on accept/reject the deal and EU membership to get the result they want.Anazina said:
It’s highly disengenuous.0 -
I can think of a few sods that need to be stood upon..TheWhiteRabbit said:
And yet he's lost the sod on which to standStark_Dawning said:
Twaddle. Grieve is a hero and a champion for democracy and the rule of law.MarqueeMark said:
After Cameron and Osborne, who have left the field of battle, Grieve has been the most damaged by the Referendum.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Mark, Grieve's 'meaningful vote' makes it a possibility, though I agree it's unlikely.
The man in question saying he had no idea what would happen if a negotiated deal were voted down does not speak well of him.0 -
Maybe not the exact agent. But the idea of using a nerve agent of any sort, against a dissident, on UK soil, and then a half-hearted attempt to divert blame does all point to a desire to ensure that even if not formally identified as the culprit then at least other dissidents might believe them to be.Sandpit said:
Possibly, although I’m not sure they understand what exactly GCHQ do all day.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Or, the Russians wanted it to be intercepted (or at least didn't care) and were testing whether MI6 were listening.Sandpit said:
Plenty of Russkies in Syria as we know, and presumably they didn’t fly straight back to Moscow to make it more difficult to work out who was responsible.DecrepitJohnL said:
Why would Syria be involved in directing KGB assassins? It makes no sense.Sandpit said:Interesting development if true. Message intercepted between Syria and Moscow on the day of the Salisbury attacks: “The package has been delivered, two people have made a successful egress”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5593803/RAF-spooks-intercepted-Russian-message-Skripals-posioned.html
Last time the Bear f’ed up on British soil, they left a radioactive trail pointing straight back at the perps.
I still don’t think they knew we’d work out what exactly was the chemical weapon, ignoring the fact that the identity of the primary victim gave a bloody big clue as to who might have been responsible.0 -
If Skripal had died alone in his home I do wonder if the government might have reacted differently.Sandpit said:I still don’t think they knew we’d work out what exactly was the chemical weapon, ignoring the fact that the identity of the primary victim gave a bloody big clue as to who might have been responsible.
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Did you see that one of the Russian scientists who developed the agents (not a defector & still resident in Russia) also blames Putin:Sandpit said:Interesting development if true. Message intercepted between Syria and Moscow on the day of the Salisbury attacks: “The package has been delivered, two people have made a successful egress”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5593803/RAF-spooks-intercepted-Russian-message-Skripals-posioned.html
https://www.ft.com/content/3c279804-3b44-11e8-b7e0-52972418fec40 -
We'll have another referendum - so long as it is restricted to those who voted Leave, deciding whether to accept the Leave deal negotiated, or Leave on WTO terms?Anazina said:
Word how the so-called 'democrats' of the brexiteer right are scared of the people. Are they afraid of the electorate changing their minds? It would seem so!MarqueeMark said:
Not. Gonna. Happen.Anazina said:
Would that do you? Or are you still f*cking trying to get another chance to overturn the earlier vote? I think we can guess which....0 -
A very interesting article, thanks Dura Ace.
However, I fear your suggestions won't go anywhere. Labour under Corbyn, especially with Seumas Milne pulling most of the strings, hasn't got the slightest interest in defence; if anything, they side with those against whom we are trying to defend ourselves.0 -
Mansion here for that. I have a nice modern 4 bedroom detached , 21/2 bath, near countryside, not huge but reasonably good size , and it is probably not much over 210K and has not gone up significantly since I bought 10 years ago.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You can get a luxury 2 bed apartment directly overlooking the sea and coast for about £325,000 herebigjohnowls said:
Bloody Hell a flat can cost £300kHYUFD said:
The average flat price in Essex is £219 000 but plenty of commuters who work in the City will pay more than £300 000 for a flatPulpstar said:
The mind boggles at how 1 bed flats around 300k can possibly be called "affordable" but hey ho...HYUFD said:
I have got a new built 1 bed for under £300k in South Essex so there is still plenty of more affordable housing around but it is getting it built and past LD and Residents Association opposition that is the problem.OldKingCole said:
No-one who lives in Mid and N Essex, I’m sure, thinks there’s a lack of housebuilding. However, as I commented the other day, when new-build one-beds are advetised at £300k+ there’s a lack of affordability. And while land prices unquestionably play a part, there does seem to be a difference in costs and returns somewhere.HYUFD said:
Raab was right, immigration with lack of transition controls in 2004 certainly contributed to higher house prices added to by the downward pressure on wages for those on lower wages.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
However lack of housebuilding, banks lending too much etc all added to the problem
https://m.zoopla.co.uk/house-prices/essex/0 -
In his own mind....Stark_Dawning said:
Twaddle. Grieve is a hero and a champion for democracy and the rule of law.MarqueeMark said:
After Cameron and Osborne, who have left the field of battle, Grieve has been the most damaged by the Referendum.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Mark, Grieve's 'meaningful vote' makes it a possibility, though I agree it's unlikely.
The man in question saying he had no idea what would happen if a negotiated deal were voted down does not speak well of him.
EDIT and in the mind of those who would never, ever vote for him...0 -
That’s an interesting counterfactual. If no-one else was affected (ambulance staff, mortuary workers) it may well have been just another unexplained death to add to the long list of Russia’s enemies who passed away in the UK, with little public comment.glw said:
If Skripal had died alone in his home I do wonder if the government might have reacted differently.Sandpit said:I still don’t think they knew we’d work out what exactly was the chemical weapon, ignoring the fact that the identity of the primary victim gave a bloody big clue as to who might have been responsible.
That others were seriously injured, including a policeman, and that the event played out in public spaces have certainly made the story much bigger than it would otherwise have been.
The Russian reaction also makes it quite clear who was behind it - otherwise they’d have gone bonkers about their own innocent female victim.0 -
Dan Hodges is making an interesting comparison about Jezza's waffle vs protest...
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/982606236800741376
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/9831011793107681280 -
As opposed to the “democrats” who wish not to see the result of the largest democratic exercise in British history implemented.Anazina said:
Word how the so-called 'democrats' of the brexiteer right are scared of the people. Are they afraid of the electorate changing their minds? It would seem so!MarqueeMark said:
Not. Gonna. Happen.Anazina said:0 -
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How do you have 0.5 of a bathroom?malcolmg said:
Mansion here for that. I have a nice modern 4 bedroom detached , 21/2 bath, near countryside, not huge but reasonably good size , and it is probably not much over 210K and has not gone up significantly since I bought 10 years ago.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You can get a luxury 2 bed apartment directly overlooking the sea and coast for about £325,000 herebigjohnowls said:
Bloody Hell a flat can cost £300kHYUFD said:
The average flat price in Essex is £219 000 but plenty of commuters who work in the City will pay more than £300 000 for a flatPulpstar said:
The mind boggles at how 1 bed flats around 300k can possibly be called "affordable" but hey ho...HYUFD said:
I have got a new built 1 bed for under £300k in South Essex so there is still plenty of more affordable housing around but it is getting it built and past LD and Residents Association opposition that is the problem.OldKingCole said:
No-one who lives in Mid and N Essex, I’m sure, thinks there’s a lack of housebuilding. However, as I commented the other day, when new-build one-beds are advetised at £300k+ there’s a lack of affordability. And while land prices unquestionably play a part, there does seem to be a difference in costs and returns somewhere.HYUFD said:
Raab was right, immigration with lack of transition controls in 2004 certainly contributed to higher house prices added to by the downward pressure on wages for those on lower wages.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
However lack of housebuilding, banks lending too much etc all added to the problem
https://m.zoopla.co.uk/house-prices/essex/0 -
Like the Freudian slip in the spelling of the word ‘junket’!Sandpit said:0 -
Room with just a washbasin and toilet ?OldKingCole said:
How do you have 0.5 of a bathroom?malcolmg said:
Mansion here for that. I have a nice modern 4 bedroom detached , 21/2 bath, near countryside, not huge but reasonably good size , and it is probably not much over 210K and has not gone up significantly since I bought 10 years ago.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You can get a luxury 2 bed apartment directly overlooking the sea and coast for about £325,000 herebigjohnowls said:
Bloody Hell a flat can cost £300kHYUFD said:
The average flat price in Essex is £219 000 but plenty of commuters who work in the City will pay more than £300 000 for a flatPulpstar said:
The mind boggles at how 1 bed flats around 300k can possibly be called "affordable" but hey ho...HYUFD said:
I have got a new built 1 bed for under £300k in South Essex so there is still plenty of more affordable housing around but it is getting it built and past LD and Residents Association opposition that is the problem.OldKingCole said:
No-one who lives in Mid and N Essex, I’m sure, thinks there’s a lack of housebuilding. However, as I commented the other day, when new-build one-beds are advetised at £300k+ there’s a lack of affordability. And while land prices unquestionably play a part, there does seem to be a difference in costs and returns somewhere.HYUFD said:
Raab was right, immigration with lack of transition controls in 2004 certainly contributed to higher house prices added to by the downward pressure on wages for those on lower wages.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
However lack of housebuilding, banks lending too much etc all added to the problem
https://m.zoopla.co.uk/house-prices/essex/0 -
Ensuite, surelyPulpstar said:
Room with just a washbasin and toilet ?OldKingCole said:
How do you have 0.5 of a bathroom?malcolmg said:
Mansion here for that. I have a nice modern 4 bedroom detached , 21/2 bath, near countryside, not huge but reasonably good size , and it is probably not much over 210K and has not gone up significantly since I bought 10 years ago.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You can get a luxury 2 bed apartment directly overlooking the sea and coast for about £325,000 herebigjohnowls said:
Bloody Hell a flat can cost £300kHYUFD said:
The average flat price in Essex is £219 000 but plenty of commuters who work in the City will pay more than £300 000 for a flatPulpstar said:
The mind boggles at how 1 bed flats around 300k can possibly be called "affordable" but hey ho...HYUFD said:
I have got a new built 1 bed for under £300k in South Essex so there is still plenty of more affordable housing around but it is getting it built and past LD and Residents Association opposition that is the problem.OldKingCole said:
No-one who lives in Mid and N Essex, I’m sure, thinks there’s a lack of housebuilding. However, as I commented the other day, when new-build one-beds are advetised at £300k+ there’s a lack of affordability. And while land prices unquestionably play a part, there does seem to be a difference in costs and returns somewhere.HYUFD said:
Raab was right, immigration with lack of transition controls in 2004 certainly contributed to higher house prices added to by the downward pressure on wages for those on lower wages.rottenborough said:One of the Tories great leadership hopes, may have blundered:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/983255173651812352
However lack of housebuilding, banks lending too much etc all added to the problem
https://m.zoopla.co.uk/house-prices/essex/0 -
King Cole, two proper bathrooms (ie with showers/baths) and one with just a lavatory and sink?
That said, halves can be a daft way of putting it. Like a one and a half-basin sink. Although it does remind me of the old maths question:
It takes one man eight hours to dig one hole. How long does it take two men to dig half a hole?
[Answer = it is not possible to dig half a hole].0 -
If the nerve agent involved had been produced or stored in a facility in Syria set up by the Russians it might explain the intercepted message and why Porton Down cannot state exactly where it was produced..DecrepitJohnL said:
Why would Syria be involved in directing KGB assassins? It makes no sense.Sandpit said:Interesting development if true. Message intercepted between Syria and Moscow on the day of the Salisbury attacks: “The package has been delivered, two people have made a successful egress”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5593803/RAF-spooks-intercepted-Russian-message-Skripals-posioned.html0 -
Thank you for a very interesting article.
I agree that focus on the people in the forces and veterans is needed. This is something that any decent party should offer, not as part of some anti-austerity drive or to make a class point.
One question: what about cyber warfare? Is that not something worthy of focus and intelligent investment?0 -
I am not trying anything. I am merely reporting the news of a poll, I thought that was the point of politicalbetting.com ?MarqueeMark said:
We'll have another referendum - so long as it is restricted to those who voted Leave, deciding whether to accept the Leave deal negotiated, or Leave on WTO terms?Anazina said:
Word how the so-called 'democrats' of the brexiteer right are scared of the people. Are they afraid of the electorate changing their minds? It would seem so!MarqueeMark said:
Not. Gonna. Happen.Anazina said:
Would that do you? Or are you still f*cking trying to get another chance to overturn the earlier vote? I think we can guess which....0 -
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According to US definitions (Which look very sensible actually), a "full" bathroom consists of shower, bath, washbasin and toilet.Morris_Dancer said:King Cole, two proper bathrooms (ie with showers/baths) and one with just a lavatory and sink?
That said, halves can be a daft way of putting it. Like a one and a half-basin sink. Although it does remind me of the old maths question:
It takes one man eight hours to dig one hole. How long does it take two men to dig half a hole?
[Answer = it is not possible to dig half a hole].
Each element therefore makes up a 1/4 of a 'bathroom'; my house for instance would be described as 1 3/4 bathrooms according to the US standards (1 bathroom, 1 shower-room both with sinks and toilets)
https://www.realtor.com/advice/buy/what-is-a-half-bath/0 -
Why on earth should it be restricted to those who voted Leave? What an absurd suggestion.MarqueeMark said:
We'll have another referendum - so long as it is restricted to those who voted Leave, deciding whether to accept the Leave deal negotiated, or Leave on WTO terms?Anazina said:
Word how the so-called 'democrats' of the brexiteer right are scared of the people. Are they afraid of the electorate changing their minds? It would seem so!MarqueeMark said:
Not. Gonna. Happen.Anazina said:
Would that do you? Or are you still f*cking trying to get another chance to overturn the earlier vote? I think we can guess which....0 -
Mr. Pulpstar, that implies you could have a quarter bathroom. What kind of depraved soul would want a bathroom that consisted of a lavatory without a washbasin.
Edited extra bit: corrected punctuation. Also, don't forget to check my wonderful post-race ramble: http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/bahrain-post-race-analysis.html0 -
No more absurd than wanting "Best of Three". At least my position has the merit of asking those who voted Leave what type of Leave they want. Those who voted Remain have foregone their opportunity for a voice in that.Anazina said:
Why on earth should it be restricted to those who voted Leave? What an absurd suggestion.MarqueeMark said:
We'll have another referendum - so long as it is restricted to those who voted Leave, deciding whether to accept the Leave deal negotiated, or Leave on WTO terms?Anazina said:
Word how the so-called 'democrats' of the brexiteer right are scared of the people. Are they afraid of the electorate changing their minds? It would seem so!MarqueeMark said:
Not. Gonna. Happen.Anazina said:
Would that do you? Or are you still f*cking trying to get another chance to overturn the earlier vote? I think we can guess which....0 -
One could have a washbasin without a toilet.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, that implies you could have a quarter bathroom. What kind of depraved soul would want a bathroom that consisted of a lavatory without a washbasin.
Edited extra bit: corrected punctuation. Also, don't forget to check my wonderful post-race ramble: http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/bahrain-post-race-analysis.html0 -
You must never forget that this is the Brexiters' ball and no one else gets to play with it.Anazina said:
Why on earth should it be restricted to those who voted Leave? What an absurd suggestion.MarqueeMark said:
We'll have another referendum - so long as it is restricted to those who voted Leave, deciding whether to accept the Leave deal negotiated, or Leave on WTO terms?Anazina said:
Word how the so-called 'democrats' of the brexiteer right are scared of the people. Are they afraid of the electorate changing their minds? It would seem so!MarqueeMark said:
Not. Gonna. Happen.Anazina said:
Would that do you? Or are you still f*cking trying to get another chance to overturn the earlier vote? I think we can guess which....
Except when the ball gets a puncture, or the opposition fans start booing, or the (foreign) referee makes a dodgy decision. Then we must all rally round Leavechester Rovers.0 -
On housing, the land issue is also key.
A big chunk of the cost of the new-build houses is the land price (bigger as a proportion than before, and especially so in the areas of highest price).
The price of land with permission to build has accelerated faster even than house prices, which signals that the issue is at least partly with the planning/regulatory/permissions area, especially when you look at the level of uplift in prices when land switches from, say, paddock land to housing land.
Construction companies, with the increase in demand, find themselves bidding up land prices. As soon as they've acquired it, they have to sell the house at a certain (high) price, or incur a loss on the land. If there's a crash, they literally can't afford to build - holding the land and waiting for prices to go back up is the rational outcome; building and selling at a loss solidifies the loss and makes it appear in cashflow.
The proposal which periodically surfaces of having authorities (or companies) able to buy land at the pre-uplift value (or even giving a fraction of the uplift value to the landowner - who has usually done nothing to earn the windfall) can make a big difference, and I believe this is done in other countries.
A root and branch reform of the planning system with presumption to build, abolition of the archaic and unhelpful green belt legislation, and land value tax on the unimproved value of land plus permissions would alpmst certainly help an awful lot - but would very probably be politically "controversial" or even "courageous" in the extreme.0 -
Jezza, the useful idiot of dictators worldwide...Scrapheap_as_was said:Dan Hodges is making an interesting comparison about Jezza's waffle vs protest...
twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/982606236800741376
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It would be very good, but especially if it means you stay with a project until complete, it really would look like a diversion on the way up. If you're posted in to a project that may take eight years, unless you can get promoted in place, your chances of top rank are gone the moment the Desk Officer tells you of where you're going.Dura_Ace said:
The three year tours are one of the biggest issues with procurement and program management. The first year is spent working out what the fuck is going on, the second year is the only productive period and third is spent trying to get posted as the defence attache to Canberra.Morris_Dancer said:
There needs to be a culture change, where a tour in procurement immediately after a command or combat tour is seen as the final leavening before promotion, with an intervening training course in acquisition and programme management skills. Maybe that would help.
The US, who are by no means perfect at procurement but a hell of a lot better than the UK, post officers to procurement efforts on different terms. They stay in position with the project until it complete and own the result. There is much more continuity of management and it's seen as a career maker for aspirant talent rather than a boring detour on the way to something more interesting.0 -
Yes, that is part of the explanation, though women voting Conservative is perhaps only a historical phenomenon, and the next generation much more Labour inclined.OldKingCole said:O/t, but a slightly different take on elderly people and conservative voting. It’s from Third Age Matters, the magazine of the U3a.
People in affluent areas, or who see themselves as affluent tend to vote Conservative.
Women tend, or at least tended, to vote Conservative.
People in affluent areas tend to live longer than those in less affluent ones.
Women live longer that men.
Hence in the the population over 65 there is an inherent skew towards Conservative voting.
The Social Class aspect is also significant in that life expectancy in well off demographics is about 10 years longer than the most deprived, with longer good health of 17 years or so. The elderly are both more female and more affluent in origin.
This does have some significance if current trends continue. Social Class patterns of voting have significantly altered recently, as gender patterns have too. If the Tories are reliant on Brexity C2DE white males, while Labour on ABC1 Females, then the age profile of party voters is going to push in one direction.0 -
Good article.
Couple of issues, tho.
First, given the already questionable perception of Lab wrt patriotism, national pride, and so forth, I can't see an "East of Skeggie Only" policy which explicitly rules out ME adventures as playing well, even though it is nothing if not realistic. Witness Lab's post-Iraq 2005 GE result; people might think a retreat (!) from the global stage is either the tip of the iceberg or a cover for a more pacifist-orientated defence policy, and Lab voters have shown they don't all approve of that.
Secondly, as I've been out of it for several years, and as I remember it, there was always the wrong kit facing the wrong threat (soft-skinned rovers for no green vehicle moves in NI, or a few Challengers facing the 3rd Shock Army in BAOR), I am interested to know why previous defence decisions were poor, beyond all of them previously also being poor (remember MARILYN?).
I just don't think the British Public, and not just the bowls clubs is ready for the admission that we are a peripheral supporting player these days. Much as it might be overwhelmingly obvious to the likes of you and me, we as a nation are not great at accepting cold hard truths in any policy area.
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Ha ha! Yes, it does seem that way. What a fitting analogy.Theuniondivvie said:
You must never forget that this is the Brexiters' ball and no one else gets to play with it.Anazina said:
Why on earth should it be restricted to those who voted Leave? What an absurd suggestion.MarqueeMark said:
We'll have another referendum - so long as it is restricted to those who voted Leave, deciding whether to accept the Leave deal negotiated, or Leave on WTO terms?Anazina said:
Word how the so-called 'democrats' of the brexiteer right are scared of the people. Are they afraid of the electorate changing their minds? It would seem so!MarqueeMark said:
Not. Gonna. Happen.Anazina said:
Would that do you? Or are you still f*cking trying to get another chance to overturn the earlier vote? I think we can guess which....
Except when the ball gets a puncture, or the opposition fans start booing, or the (foreign) referee makes a dodgy decision. Then we must all rally round Leavechester Rovers.0 -
What antidemocratic bilge you spout. By that thinking, if I don't vote for the government of the day I concede the right to have any say in how they are running the country? Say I vote Green or Ukip, I have no right to praise or criticise or try to influence how the Tory or Labour administration makes policy? What utter tripe. Go back to bed.MarqueeMark said:
No more absurd than wanting "Best of Three". At least my position has the merit of asking those who voted Leave what type of Leave they want. Those who voted Remain have foregone their opportunity for a voice in that.Anazina said:
Why on earth should it be restricted to those who voted Leave? What an absurd suggestion.MarqueeMark said:
We'll have another referendum - so long as it is restricted to those who voted Leave, deciding whether to accept the Leave deal negotiated, or Leave on WTO terms?Anazina said:
Word how the so-called 'democrats' of the brexiteer right are scared of the people. Are they afraid of the electorate changing their minds? It would seem so!MarqueeMark said:
Not. Gonna. Happen.Anazina said:
Would that do you? Or are you still f*cking trying to get another chance to overturn the earlier vote? I think we can guess which....0 -
Do you not like the idea of separating procurement out to a completely independent agency ?Dura_Ace said:
The three year tours are one of the biggest issues with procurement and program management. The first year is spent working out what the fuck is going on, the second year is the only productive period and third is spent trying to get posted as the defence attache to Canberra.Morris_Dancer said:
There needs to be a culture change, where a tour in procurement immediately after a command or combat tour is seen as the final leavening before promotion, with an intervening training course in acquisition and programme management skills. Maybe that would help.
The US, who are by no means perfect at procurement but a hell of a lot better than the UK, post officers to procurement efforts on different terms. They stay in position with the project until it complete and own the result. There is much more continuity of management and it's seen as a career maker for aspirant talent rather than a boring detour on the way to something more interesting.
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BREAKING The Home Office ‘Serious Violence Strategy’ - stretching to 114 pages - makes no mention of police resources or officer number cuts0
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If it doesn't have bidet with full-strength undercarriage squirter than it shouldn't be considered a full-blown bathroom.Pulpstar said:
According to US definitions (Which look very sensible actually), a "full" bathroom consists of shower, bath, washbasin and toilet.Morris_Dancer said:King Cole, two proper bathrooms (ie with showers/baths) and one with just a lavatory and sink?
That said, halves can be a daft way of putting it. Like a one and a half-basin sink. Although it does remind me of the old maths question:
It takes one man eight hours to dig one hole. How long does it take two men to dig half a hole?
[Answer = it is not possible to dig half a hole].
Each element therefore makes up a 1/4 of a 'bathroom'; my house for instance would be described as 1 3/4 bathrooms according to the US standards (1 bathroom, 1 shower-room both with sinks and toilets)
https://www.realtor.com/advice/buy/what-is-a-half-bath/0 -
The practical issue is that there simply isn't enough time for primary legislation for a second referendum on terms, or at least not without an A50 extension.Anazina said:
I am not trying anything. I am merely reporting the news of a poll, I thought that was the point of politicalbetting.com ?MarqueeMark said:
We'll have another referendum - so long as it is restricted to those who voted Leave, deciding whether to accept the Leave deal negotiated, or Leave on WTO terms?Anazina said:
Word how the so-called 'democrats' of the brexiteer right are scared of the people. Are they afraid of the electorate changing their minds? It would seem so!MarqueeMark said:
Not. Gonna. Happen.Anazina said:
Would that do you? Or are you still f*cking trying to get another chance to overturn the earlier vote? I think we can guess which....
It is conceivable that there could be one on an Association Agreement with the EU27, on the terms of any Trade plus deal, but even this is not likely to be ready until well past Transition ends. This would mean that such a deal would be a step back towards the EU after WTO terms for a period, unless Transition is itself extended.0 -
Rattled?Anazina said:
What antidemocratic bilge you spout. By that thinking, if I don't vote for the government of the day I concede the right to have any say in how they are running the country? Say I vote Green or Ukip, I have no right to praise or criticise or try to influence how the Tory or Labour administration makes policy? What utter tripe. Go back to bed.MarqueeMark said:
No more absurd than wanting "Best of Three". At least my position has the merit of asking those who voted Leave what type of Leave they want. Those who voted Remain have foregone their opportunity for a voice in that.Anazina said:
Why on earth should it be restricted to those who voted Leave? What an absurd suggestion.MarqueeMark said:
We'll have another referendum - so long as it is restricted to those who voted Leave, deciding whether to accept the Leave deal negotiated, or Leave on WTO terms?Anazina said:
Word how the so-called 'democrats' of the brexiteer right are scared of the people. Are they afraid of the electorate changing their minds? It would seem so!MarqueeMark said:
Not. Gonna. Happen.Anazina said:
Would that do you? Or are you still f*cking trying to get another chance to overturn the earlier vote? I think we can guess which....0
