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If you want to be leader you would think you would put yourself forward in the media or do speeches or even get yourself on QT,it looks like the Mercer doesn't want the job.
Rees-Mogg taking first place because he's doing these things.0 -
They are invisible on my chromebook but visible on my iPhone.Morris_Dancer said:Also, in the Vanilla forums, the buttons at the top have become invisible for me (but they still exist, just to the right of the still-visible username at the top).
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He’s doing it because the media loves a clown.Tykejohnno said:If you want to be leader you would think you would put yourself forward in the media or do speeches or even get yourself on QT,it looks like the Mercer doesn't want the job.
Rees-Mogg taking first place because he's doing these things.
The BBC, among others, is complicit in creating these nutters. Boris for example got his big (TV) media break on Have I Got News For You.
They think it adds to the gaiety of the nation.
Actually, it just dumbs down political debate.0 -
Are we sure it doesn't just censor pompous twats? Hmmmm, I never get on the Beeb either, Andrew......Richard_Nabavi said:0 -
The home button at the bottom has disappeared in vanilla on the iphone. Makes it much more inconvenient to refresh.TheScreamingEagles said:
They are invisible on my chromebook but visible on my iPhone.Morris_Dancer said:Also, in the Vanilla forums, the buttons at the top have become invisible for me (but they still exist, just to the right of the still-visible username at the top).
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Actually I thought Boris was superb on HIGNFY, genuinely funny. Foreign Secretary is proving a little more problematic for him.Gardenwalker said:
He’s doing it because the media loves a clown.Tykejohnno said:If you want to be leader you would think you would put yourself forward in the media or do speeches or even get yourself on QT,it looks like the Mercer doesn't want the job.
Rees-Mogg taking first place because he's doing these things.
The BBC, among others, is complicit in creating these nutters. Boris for example got his big (TV) media break on Have I Got News For You.
They think it adds to the gaiety of the nation.
Actually, it just dumbs down political debate.0 -
Interesting that there haven't been any homicides so far this year in Brent, despite the fact that the area around Harlesden used to be regarded as one of the most dangerous in London about 10 to 15 years ago. They must be doing something right in Brent regarding crime which the other areas like Walthamstow might be able to learn from.0
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Your claim was "West London is still largely Tory"HYUFD said:
8 Tory MPs in West Greater London even on that link you have given me.Anazina said:
For crying out loud, buy a compass before you bother me again.HYUFD said:
Because you are wrong. Even when I have shown you the West Central London Assembly area is majority Tory and has a Tory Assembly member you persist in saying West London is overwhelmingly LabourAnazina said:
No you were completely wrong to say that. The map clearly shows that that West London, i.e. that part of London that is in the west of the city and has a W postcode is overwhelmingly Labour. Why not just concede the point for once instead of dancing on ever decreasing pinheads?HYUFD said:
City of London and Westminster Tory MP. Westminster Council Tory Council.Anazina said:
It's amazing the lengths you go to to avoid admitting an error. Just admit you are wrong man, it won't hurt you! People will respect you for it. Let's unpack this response, one by one. The map I posted clearly shows that WEST London is a Labour area.HYUFD said:
BLAHAnazina said:
Absolute rubbish. The vast majority of West London is Labour. I think you are mistaking West London with South West London!HYUFD said:
Though West London is still largely ToryStark_Dawning said:Under Theresa the Tories have very much become the party of caravan holidays and jumble sales. It's no surprise that London - a city of edginess, ambition and vim - should see them as dull and irrelevant or even a touch morbid. These days I can barely picture a Tory who wouldn't partake in tea dancing.
This is easily verifiable by simply searching google.
https://goo.gl/images/c3AqPf
Westminster [parts of it are Tory, Westminster North is Labour]
the City [this in in East Central London, not West London]
Chelsea [this is South West London, the clue is in the postcode, SW3]
Putney [south of the river, South West 15, and only just Tory by a tiny majority anyway]
Fulham [South West 6]
Richmond Park [in the far SW of the capital, again south of the water]
Hillingdon etc [some parts of it are Tory, not all by any means]
Chelsea Tory MP and Tory Council in Kensington and Chelsea.
Fulham Tory MP.
All those areas make up the West Central London Assembly seat which is also Tory so I was correct to say West London was mainly Tory still even if you just confine it to central West London
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/LondonParliamentaryConstituency2017Results3.png
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On that basis - Brian Blessed for PM!Gardenwalker said:
He’s doing it because the media loves a clown.Tykejohnno said:If you want to be leader you would think you would put yourself forward in the media or do speeches or even get yourself on QT,it looks like the Mercer doesn't want the job.
Rees-Mogg taking first place because he's doing these things.
The BBC, among others, is complicit in creating these nutters. Boris for example got his big (TV) media break on Have I Got News For You.
They think it adds to the gaiety of the nation.
Actually, it just dumbs down political debate.0 -
DavidL said:HYUFD said:
At least that anyone could see.Anazina said:
We are getting more police in Essex and there has been no rise in crime at the time street lights have been switched offGardenwalker said:
And their no street lighting policy.Anazina said:
He needs to spend less time on pinheads and more time on potholes.Gardenwalker said:
He is a Tory politician in Essex too.Anazina said:
Do not bother trying to argue with HYUFD. He is a notorious troll.HYUFD said:
No you were completely wrong to say that. The map clearly shows g on ever decreasing pinheads?Anazina said:
BLAHHYUFD said:
The posher bits of West London, Westminster, the City, Chelsea, Putney, Fulham, Richmond Park, Hillingdon etc are still largely Tory.Anazina said:
Absolute rubbish. The vast majority of West London is Labour. I think you are mistaking West London with South West London!HYUFD said:
Though West London is still largely ToryStark_Dawning said:Under Theresa the Tories have very much become the party of caravan holidays and jumble sales. It's no surprise that London - a city of edginess, ambition and vim - should see them as dull and irrelevant or even a touch morbid. These days I can barely picture a Tory who wouldn't partake in tea dancing.
This is easily verifiable by simply searching google.
https://goo.gl/images/c3AqPf
It is East London, North London up to the Essex border and with the exception of Barnet with its high Jewish population and South London up to the Kent border which are now overwhelmingly Labour
BLAH
Although, as been proven again today, he likes to keep people in the dark.
Reminds me of an old joke.
Daddy, daddy, there's an Essex County Council politician at the door with a canvas form.
Tell him I can't see him.0 -
I'll ask Robert to drop vanilla a message.Gardenwalker said:
The home button at the bottom has disappeared in vanilla on the iphone. Makes it much more inconvenient to refresh.TheScreamingEagles said:
They are invisible on my chromebook but visible on my iPhone.Morris_Dancer said:Also, in the Vanilla forums, the buttons at the top have become invisible for me (but they still exist, just to the right of the still-visible username at the top).
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He has only just discovered the BBC has a massive layer upon layer paper pushing hierarchy?Richard_Nabavi said:0 -
DavidL said:HYUFD said:
At least that anyone could see.Anazina said:
We are getting more police in Essex and there has been no rise in crime at the time street lights have been switched offGardenwalker said:
And their no street lighting policy.Anazina said:
He needs to spend less time on pinheads and more time on potholes.Gardenwalker said:
He is a Tory politician in Essex too.Anazina said:
Do not bother trying to argue with HYUFD. He is a notorious troll.HYUFD said:
No you were completely wrong to say that. The map clearly shows g on ever decreasing pinheads?Anazina said:
SNIPHYUFD said:
The posher bits of West London, Westminster, the City, Chelsea, Putney, Fulham, Richmond Park, Hillingdon etc are still largely Tory.Anazina said:
Absolute rubbish. The vast majority of West London is Labour. I think you are mistaking West London with South West London!HYUFD said:
Though West London is still largely ToryStark_Dawning said:Under Theresa the Tories have very much become the party of caravan holidays and jumble sales. It's no surprise that London - a city of edginess, ambition and vim - should see them as dull and irrelevant or even a touch morbid. These days I can barely picture a Tory who wouldn't partake in tea dancing.
This is easily verifiable by simply searching google.
https://goo.gl/images/c3AqPf
It is East London, North London up to the Essex border and with the exception of Barnet with its high Jewish population and South London up to the Kent border which are now overwhelmingly Labour
Although, as been proven again today, he likes to keep people in the dark. Reminds me of an old joke.
Daddy, daddy, there's an Essex County Council politician at the door with a canvas form.
Tell him I can't see him.0 -
I've always liked Philip May, so not surprised this is happening, people I know who have met him say he's very engaging, and will talk to everyone who attends an event (or will try to)
https://twitter.com/LOS_Fisher/status/981898017639976960
https://twitter.com/wallaceme/status/981898404610625537
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Philip_Thompson said:
Don't go there. You'll be there all bloody day.HYUFD said:
Your claim was "West London is still largely Tory"Anazina said:
8 Tory MPs in West Greater London even on that link you have given me.HYUFD said:
For crying out loud, buy a compass before you bother me again.Anazina said:
Because you are wrong. Even when I have shown you the West Central London Assembly area is majority Tory and has a Tory Assembly member you persist in saying West London is overwhelmingly LabourHYUFD said:
No you were completely wrong to say that. The map clearly shows that that West London, i.e. that part of London that is in the west of the city and has a W postcode is overwhelmingly Labour. Why not just concede the point for once instead of dancing on ever decreasing pinheads?Anazina said:
SNIPHYUFD said:
BLAHAnazina said:
Absolute rubbish. The vast majority of West London is Labour. I think you are mistaking West London with South West London!HYUFD said:
Though West London is still largely ToryStark_Dawning said:Under Theresa the Tories have very much become the party of caravan holidays and jumble sales. It's no surprise that London - a city of edginess, ambition and vim - should see them as dull and irrelevant or even a touch morbid. These days I can barely picture a Tory who wouldn't partake in tea dancing.
This is easily verifiable by simply searching google.
https://goo.gl/images/c3AqPf
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/LondonParliamentaryConstituency2017Results3.png
Again hardly 'overwhelmingly Labour'0 -
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"Enlisting PM's husband for campaign emails feels pretty odd..."
Sounds a bit sexist....Gordon Brown enlisted his much more human wife to try and revamp his image, as did Ed Miliband.0 -
I loved Brian Blessed's first stint on HIGNFY, he was shamelessly flirting with Alan Duncan.MarqueeMark said:
On that basis - Brian Blessed for PM!Gardenwalker said:
He’s doing it because the media loves a clown.Tykejohnno said:If you want to be leader you would think you would put yourself forward in the media or do speeches or even get yourself on QT,it looks like the Mercer doesn't want the job.
Rees-Mogg taking first place because he's doing these things.
The BBC, among others, is complicit in creating these nutters. Boris for example got his big (TV) media break on Have I Got News For You.
They think it adds to the gaiety of the nation.
Actually, it just dumbs down political debate.0 -
Maybe when they'd watched it, they felt the programme just consisted of a high-pitched whining noise....FrancisUrquhart said:
He has only just discovered the BBC has a massive layer upon layer paper pushing hierarchy?Richard_Nabavi said:0 -
I got one of these this afternoon as well. Which is a little odd since there are no local elections in Scotland this year. But I suppose with a phone bank it doesn't really matter where you are.TheScreamingEagles said:I've always liked Philip May, so not surprised this is happening, people I know who have met him say he's very engaging, and will talk to everyone who attends an event (or will try to)
https://twitter.com/LOS_Fisher/status/981898017639976960
https://twitter.com/wallaceme/status/981898404610625537
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Good on him, the more the merrierTheScreamingEagles said:I've always liked Philip May, so not surprised this is happening, people I know who have met him say he's very engaging, and will talk to everyone who attends an event (or will try to)
ttps://twitter.com/LOS_Fisher/status/981898017639976960
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What I don’t get is this: surely there is no Tory MP left who seriously believes Johnson could be their leader, let alone the PM. Given that, how on earth is it a risk for Mrs May to deposit him back on the backbenches. He is not a danger to her. Only to the country.0
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I am guessing that is why they cancelled Robot Wars.MarqueeMark said:
Maybe when they'd watched it, they felt the programme just consisted of a high-pitched whining noise....FrancisUrquhart said:
He has only just discovered the BBC has a massive layer upon layer paper pushing hierarchy?Richard_Nabavi said:0 -
NW10 is one of the largest postal districts in London so people less likely to accidental stroll into enemy territory (which is usually the trigger for the aggro) ?AndyJS said:Interesting that there haven't been any homicides so far this year in Brent, despite the fact that the area around Harlesden used to be regarded as one of the most dangerous in London about 10 to 15 years ago. They must be doing something right in Brent regarding crime which the other areas like Walthamstow might be able to learn from.
http://travelquaz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/london_postcode_map.gif0 -
Rubbish,the man can speak in front of a audience with authority and answer questions honestly .Gardenwalker said:
He’s doing it because the media loves a clown.Tykejohnno said:If you want to be leader you would think you would put yourself forward in the media or do speeches or even get yourself on QT,it looks like the Mercer doesn't want the job.
Rees-Mogg taking first place because he's doing these things.
The BBC, among others, is complicit in creating these nutters. Boris for example got his big (TV) media break on Have I Got News For You.
They think it adds to the gaiety of the nation.
Actually, it just dumbs down political debate.
Go on YouTube and watch him,read the comments underneath of the thousands who have watched him and the likes.
This is a man not made by the BBC but of a gap in hard leave side and he's taken it,maybe Mercer is to much a remainer to put himself forward?0 -
Mr. Mark, Brian Blessed would make a fantastic Speaker.
Mr. Urquhart, well, putting it on at the same time as Blue Planet II was not exactly conducive to its success...0 -
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I imagine the PM is saving the major reshuffle for about this time next year, with lots of new blood promoted and old wood cleared out. She won’t want to rock the boat before we actually leave the EU though.SouthamObserver said:What I don’t get is this: surely there is no Tory MP left who seriously believes Johnson could be their leader, let alone the PM. Given that, how on earth is it a risk for Mrs May to deposit him back on the backbenches. He is not a danger to her. Only to the country.
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He's still got about 30 hardcore supporters.SouthamObserver said:What I don’t get is this: surely there is no Tory MP left who seriously believes Johnson could be their leader, let alone the PM. Given that, how on earth is it a risk for Mrs May to deposit him back on the backbenches. He is not a danger to her. Only to the country.
One of whom is a minister who has publicly said he would like to cut off Michael Gove's penis.
The most interesting story I've heard is that Boris has realised his time is up and is now looking at installing his brother as PM.0 -
Anyone see Dianne Abbott trying to defend Khan and his hiding away on Sky News. It was hilarious.0
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Andrew Adonis sounds like the right-wing nutjobs who have been howling about BBC bias for all these years. I wonder if any if them have the self-knowledge to recognise this!0
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The rumour was that they cancelled RW because they couldn’t make it safe enough for the spectators.FrancisUrquhart said:
I am guessing that is why they cancelled Robot Wars.MarqueeMark said:
Maybe when they'd watched it, they felt the programme just consisted of a high-pitched whining noise....FrancisUrquhart said:
He has only just discovered the BBC has a massive layer upon layer paper pushing hierarchy?Richard_Nabavi said:0 -
I'm old fashioned, I prefer to do it on the doorstep, not on the phone.DavidL said:
I got one of these this afternoon as well. Which is a little odd since there are no local elections in Scotland this year. But I suppose with a phone bank it doesn't really matter where you are.TheScreamingEagles said:I've always liked Philip May, so not surprised this is happening, people I know who have met him say he's very engaging, and will talk to everyone who attends an event (or will try to)
https://twitter.com/LOS_Fisher/status/981898017639976960
https://twitter.com/wallaceme/status/981898404610625537
https://twitter.com/wallaceme/status/981899026772692994
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I seem to recall a BBC political editor saying they kept two piles of letters on their desk. One from Lefties saying he was bias, the other from Righties saying he was bias. As long as the two piles were roughly of equal height, he slept at night.SouthamObserver said:Andrew Adonis sounds like the right-wing nutjobs who have been howling about BBC bias for all these years. I wonder if any if them have the self-knowledge to recognise this!
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John Sergeant shared that story about Robin Oakley.rottenborough said:
I seem to recall a BBC political editor saying they kept two piles of letters on their desk. One from Lefties saying he was bias, the other from Righties saying he was bias. As long as the two piles were roughly of equal height, he slept at night.SouthamObserver said:Andrew Adonis sounds like the right-wing nutjobs who have been howling about BBC bias for all these years. I wonder if any if them have the self-knowledge to recognise this!
Probably apocryphal.0 -
Theresa's fear will be that the media will feast on his every utterance. Unrestrained by high office, Boris could mock and deride whatever she does, particularly concerning Brexit. The euro-sceptic Right would love to have Boris as their master of the hounds. Together they'd rip her to pieces.SouthamObserver said:What I don’t get is this: surely there is no Tory MP left who seriously believes Johnson could be their leader, let alone the PM. Given that, how on earth is it a risk for Mrs May to deposit him back on the backbenches. He is not a danger to her. Only to the country.
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Keeping a rival at FO has always been a smart move. They are away from the UK a lot.Stark_Dawning said:
Theresa's fear will be that the media will feast on his every utterance. Unrestrained by high office, Boris could mock and deride whatever she does, particularly concerning Brexit. The euro-sceptic Right would love to have Boris as their master of the hounds. Together they'd rip her to pieces.SouthamObserver said:What I don’t get is this: surely there is no Tory MP left who seriously believes Johnson could be their leader, let alone the PM. Given that, how on earth is it a risk for Mrs May to deposit him back on the backbenches. He is not a danger to her. Only to the country.
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Boris’s job is to act as a lightning rod for the Brexiteers. For now he is still needed.SouthamObserver said:What I don’t get is this: surely there is no Tory MP left who seriously believes Johnson could be their leader, let alone the PM. Given that, how on earth is it a risk for Mrs May to deposit him back on the backbenches. He is not a danger to her. Only to the country.
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Yep. She already has one George Osborne, she doesn’t need another one in Boris.Stark_Dawning said:
Theresa's fear will be that the media will feast on his every utterance. Unrestrained by high office, Boris could mock and deride whatever she does, particularly concerning Brexit. The euro-sceptic Right would love to have Boris as their master of the hounds. Together they'd rip her to pieces.SouthamObserver said:What I don’t get is this: surely there is no Tory MP left who seriously believes Johnson could be their leader, let alone the PM. Given that, how on earth is it a risk for Mrs May to deposit him back on the backbenches. He is not a danger to her. Only to the country.
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Might be worth book-marking this guide to the 2018 locals:
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2018/04/whats-worth-staying-2018-local-elections
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Mr. Observer, indeed. Boris isn't fit to be Foreign Secretary.
That said, axing him right now would feed right into the Russian propaganda machine.
Mr. Borough, indeed.
Mr. Eagles, not directly comparable, but Boris could be Valens (shit emperor) to the pretty good Valentinian of his brother. One would hope they wouldn't be like Arcadius and Honorius.
Mr. Currystar, can't blame Khan for hiding, given the London crime rate.0 -
Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.0
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The fact that you're not a tribal Tory makes this analysis all the more persuasive.currystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
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Forget Arcadius and Honorius, they are trying to avoid being like Ed and David MilibandMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Observer, indeed. Boris isn't fit to be Foreign Secretary.
That said, axing him right now would feed right into the Russian propaganda machine.
Mr. Borough, indeed.
Mr. Eagles, not directly comparable, but Boris could be Valens (shit emperor) to the pretty good Valentinian of his brother. One would hope they wouldn't be like Arcadius and Honorius.
Mr. Currystar, can't blame Khan for hiding, given the London crime rate.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10253871/Boris-says-he-would-never-shaft-his-brother-like-Ed-Miliband-did.html0 -
Adonis until recently seemed a balanced and erudite man. For some reason he seems to have gone quite raving mad.rottenborough said:
I seem to recall a BBC political editor saying they kept two piles of letters on their desk. One from Lefties saying he was bias, the other from Righties saying he was bias. As long as the two piles were roughly of equal height, he slept at night.SouthamObserver said:Andrew Adonis sounds like the right-wing nutjobs who have been howling about BBC bias for all these years. I wonder if any if them have the self-knowledge to recognise this!
Probably apocryphal.0 -
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Mr. Eagles, Arcadius and Honorius also loathed one another.
Mr. C, the certainties of life were shattered when he found out most voters disagreed with him. How could democracy get it wrong?0 -
Best quote about Carlton Palmer.currystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
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People are being a little silly when they talk about police numbers as if they are the only factor in reducing crime. They're an important part, but far from the whole story. There are legal and social factors that are just as important, which is why it is difficult to make a direct connection between changes in police numbers and crime.TheScreamingEagles said:
As a rather extreme example: you could triple the number of police, yet have crime increasing if you keep them in the station doing paperwork, or have a legal system that makes it hard to convict, or a society that encourages criminality.
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Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf0 -
I like Boris, in some ways because of his personality flaws. But I fear that anything might shine when compared to Khan.currystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
I've wittered on here before about Boris and his role in the lamentable Garden Bridge. Whatever else he may have achieved as mayor, his handling of that disastrous vanity project shows he is unsuited to be PM.
On the other hand, unlike some on here I was impressed with the way he got a coalition of countries to support us over the chemical attack.0 -
When was he ever restrained by high office?Stark_Dawning said:
Theresa's fear will be that the media will feast on his every utterance. Unrestrained by high office, Boris could mock and deride whatever she does, particularly concerning Brexit. The euro-sceptic Right would love to have Boris as their master of the hounds. Together they'd rip her to pieces.SouthamObserver said:What I don’t get is this: surely there is no Tory MP left who seriously believes Johnson could be their leader, let alone the PM. Given that, how on earth is it a risk for Mrs May to deposit him back on the backbenches. He is not a danger to her. Only to the country.
I see your point, but if you follow too slavishly a policy of keeping pissers in the tent pissing out you end up with an awfully full tent. Boris could be an embarrassment for sure, but look at Osborne - he has his lolz but is fundamentally impotent. The pen is actually not mightier than the sword, and certainly not mighty enough to bridge the gap between being a Somebody and a former Somebody.0 -
Depend whether your *friend* wants a guaranteed pair of shoes, or to gamble on the outside chance of a full Imelda...TheScreamingEagles said:Asking for a friend who backed Jeremy Hunt at prices of 100/1 plus and stands to win a nice five figure sum when he does become PM.
Hunt is now 21s on Betfair, do I start to lay some of my stakes? Or should I wait for his price to fall a bit more, if so, what odds?
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Hitler was popular with the Germans. I could not care less what religion someone comes from, its all abour performamce.MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Name something good he has done. He said he would be building 80,000 affordable homes, since he took tenure the number of social housing starts in just over a 1,000. Boris massively beat that. And Khan is a labour politician who should be helping those less well off. Its so easy to say you are going to make improvements which Khan is very good at, he is hopeless at actually doing anything.0 -
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"I'm going to chin you if you don't watch it...."TheScreamingEagles said:
I loved Brian Blessed's first stint on HIGNFY, he was shamelessly flirting with Alan Duncan.MarqueeMark said:
On that basis - Brian Blessed for PM!Gardenwalker said:
He’s doing it because the media loves a clown.Tykejohnno said:If you want to be leader you would think you would put yourself forward in the media or do speeches or even get yourself on QT,it looks like the Mercer doesn't want the job.
Rees-Mogg taking first place because he's doing these things.
The BBC, among others, is complicit in creating these nutters. Boris for example got his big (TV) media break on Have I Got News For You.
They think it adds to the gaiety of the nation.
Actually, it just dumbs down political debate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgOiiFv9DZ00 -
Carlton Palmer 18 Engalnd CapsTheScreamingEagles said:
Best quote about Carlton Palmer.currystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
"He covers every blade of grass out there, but that's only because his first touch is so crap" - Dave Jones
Matt le tessier 8 Engalnd Caps
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Jacob Rees-Mogg is as false a favourite as I can recall since Marco Rubio. Assuming that Theresa May gets to see out Brexit, which now looks to be the working assumption, his USP as the most extreme Brexit extremist will be irrelevant and his lack of experience will count heavily against him.
I’d have thought that now might be a good time to think about Philip Hammond again. The Brexit obsessives will have calmed down again by the time the job comes up for consideration and he’ll have both the cv and the gravitas for the role. He shouldn’t be a 40/1 shot anyway.0 -
Redwood suggests the EU was responsible for the collapse of British Leyland!
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Osborne is politically impotent primarily because he's not in parliament. All he can do now is provide words for others (were he still an MP, he would have a few other problems, such as his involvement in the Remain campaign), but would still be a formidable presence on the backbenches.Ishmael_Z said:
When was he ever restrained by high office?Stark_Dawning said:
Theresa's fear will be that the media will feast on his every utterance. Unrestrained by high office, Boris could mock and deride whatever she does, particularly concerning Brexit. The euro-sceptic Right would love to have Boris as their master of the hounds. Together they'd rip her to pieces.SouthamObserver said:What I don’t get is this: surely there is no Tory MP left who seriously believes Johnson could be their leader, let alone the PM. Given that, how on earth is it a risk for Mrs May to deposit him back on the backbenches. He is not a danger to her. Only to the country.
I see your point, but if you follow too slavishly a policy of keeping pissers in the tent pissing out you end up with an awfully full tent. Boris could be an embarrassment for sure, but look at Osborne - he has his lolz but is fundamentally impotent. The pen is actually not mightier than the sword, and certainly not mighty enough to bridge the gap between being a Somebody and a former Somebody.
Osborne is not a threat to May other than indirectly (and even then, not much); Boris very much is a threat for the same reasons that Geoffrey Howe was a threat to Margaret Thatcher.0 -
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I have a friend who works out in the Gulf States. About 5-6 years ago, his kid came home from school and was wittering about them being coached by some international footballer and him being amazing.TheScreamingEagles said:
Best quote about Carlton Palmer.currystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
"He covers every blade of grass out there, but that's only because his first touch is so crap" - Dave Jones
He was like sure sure, whatever. His son informed my friend, that said player wanted to know if the anybody fancied a game, could they get a team together. My friend was a reasonable player as a youth playing lowly semi-pro and with his mates thought he would go and see who this billy big bollocks was.
So they turn up and it is one Carlton Palmer, there was much sniggering, then they started to play and my friend said Palmer was just absolutely class on the ball and super fit despite being a good 10+ years older than the Dads.0 -
Agreed. In New Labour days he came across as a slightly worthy technocrat interested in pragmatic solutions to complex problems who was willing to do a bit of homework. Now he just raves about anything and everything. He may have had some sort of a point about Vice Chancellor's pay, for example, but pretending that this was the solution or cause of the student debt mountain or would make any material difference to it was absurd. He really does seem to have lost the plot.PeterC said:
Adonis until recently seemed a balanced and erudite man. For some reason he seems to have gone quite raving mad.rottenborough said:
I seem to recall a BBC political editor saying they kept two piles of letters on their desk. One from Lefties saying he was bias, the other from Righties saying he was bias. As long as the two piles were roughly of equal height, he slept at night.SouthamObserver said:Andrew Adonis sounds like the right-wing nutjobs who have been howling about BBC bias for all these years. I wonder if any if them have the self-knowledge to recognise this!
Probably apocryphal.0 -
Interesting comment from Mr Smithson.MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Most of us would have assumed that the most likely reason for someone opposing Khan is his politics. But instead Mike goes straight for the smear attack accusation of racism.
Taking too many lessons in smearing from Mr Meeks I think.
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David Lammy really is a pillock,
We haven’t seen a police while I’ve been here and I’ve been here for a little while now,” David Lammy told the BBC earlier....As a policeman stands in shot behind him…
https://order-order.com/2018/04/05/we-havent-seen-a-police-while-ive-been-here/0 -
LOL, can they STILL not kill this story?Scott_P said:0 -
Phil Neville holds more England caps than Paul Gascoigne.currystar said:
Carlton Palmer 18 Engalnd CapsTheScreamingEagles said:
Best quote about Carlton Palmer.currystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
"He covers every blade of grass out there, but that's only because his first touch is so crap" - Dave Jones
Matt le tessier 8 Engalnd Caps
And we wonder why we never win anything0 -
As much as I enjoy blaming the EU for things I'm fairly sure that British Leyland and later Rover went down the pan because they had terrible British management.williamglenn said:Redwood suggests the EU was responsible for the collapse of British Leyland!
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Question for you, does Sadiq Khan control police funding and staffing in London?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Observer, indeed. Boris isn't fit to be Foreign Secretary.
That said, axing him right now would feed right into the Russian propaganda machine.
Mr. Borough, indeed.
Mr. Eagles, not directly comparable, but Boris could be Valens (shit emperor) to the pretty good Valentinian of his brother. One would hope they wouldn't be like Arcadius and Honorius.
Mr. Currystar, can't blame Khan for hiding, given the London crime rate.0 -
That's not what he said but the point he is making is daft enough. Obviously Nissan and Toyota both came here whilst we were in the EU as did Tata cars who have transformed Jaguar and Land Rover. As the proud owner of a newish Jaguar XF I can attest to the latter's achievement. Its a brilliant car to drive.williamglenn said:Redwood suggests the EU was responsible for the collapse of British Leyland!
https://twitter.com/johnredwood/status/981828937750892545?s=21
I would also suggest that as a generality taking time out of your day to show that Redwood is a fruit cake is perhaps not the most productive use of your time.0 -
https://twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/954006520135593984?s=17MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Very poor comment mike on the - "a Muslim mayor" bit.
Maybe he doesn't like him because he thinks he's crap.
Why is it his view alone,even the poll here has him doing badly with Tories 53% and in London heading to 30%,like to see new polls after the murders in London media attention.0 -
Miss Anazina, according to the below link, the Mayor is responsible for policing and crime policy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayor_of_London#Powers_and_functions
This would include stop-and-search, which is opposed by Khan. Correspondingly, stop-and-search has declined dramatically, as knife (and other potentially fatal) crime has risen.0 -
If I wanted you to vote for me I would be in a different party!Gardenwalker said:
Save it for your leaflets. Few of us can vote for you. None of us *would* vote for you.HYUFD said:
We are getting more police in Essex and there has been no rise in crime at the time street lights have been switched offAnazina said:
And their no street lighting policy.Gardenwalker said:
He needs to spend less time on pinheads and more time on potholes.Anazina said:
He is a Tory politician in Essex too.Gardenwalker said:
Do not bother trying to argue with HYUFD. He is a notorious troll.Anazina said:HYUFD said:
City of London and Westminster Tory MP. Westminster Council Tory Council.Anazina said:
It's amazing the lengths you go to to avoid admitting an error. Just admit you are wrong man, it won't hurt you! People will respect you for it. Let's unpack this response, one by one. The map I posted clearly shows that WEST London is a Labour area.HYUFD said:
The posher bits of West London, Westminster, the City, Chelsea, Putney, Fulham, Richmond Park, Hillingdon etc are still largely Tory.Anazina said:
Absolute rubbish. The vast majority of West London is Labour. I think you are mistaking West London with South West London!HYUFD said:
Though West London is still largely ToryStark_Dawning said:Under Theresa the Tories have very much become the party of caravan holidays and jumble sales. It's no surprise that London - a city of edginess, ambition and vim - should see them as dull and irrelevant or even a touch morbid. These days I can barely picture a Tory who wouldn't partake in tea dancing.
This is easily verifiable by simply searching google.
https://goo.gl/images/c3AqPf
It is East London, North London up to the Essex border and with the exception of Barnet with its high Jewish population and South London up to the Kent border which are now overwhelmingly Labour
Westminster [parts of it are Tory, in south of the water]
Hillingdon etc [some parts of it are Tory, not all by any means]
Chelsea Tory MP and Tory Council in Kensington and Chelsea.
Fulham Tory MP.
BLAH
Although, as been proven again today, he likes to keep people in the dark.0 -
As I said the London Assembly Member for West Central London is indeed a ToryPhilip_Thompson said:
Your claim was "West London is still largely Tory"HYUFD said:
8 Tory MPs in West Greater London even on that link you have given me.Anazina said:
For crying out loud, buy a compass before you bother me again.HYUFD said:
Because you are wrong. Even when I have shown you the West Central London Assembly area is majority Tory and has a Tory Assembly member you persist in saying West London is overwhelmingly LabourAnazina said:
No you were completely wrong to say that. The map clearly shows that that West London, i.e. that part of London that is in the west of the city and has a W postcode is overwhelmingly Labour. Why not just concede the point for once instead of dancing on ever decreasing pinheads?HYUFD said:
City of London and Westminster Tory MP. Westminster Council Tory Council.Anazina said:
It's amazing the lengths you go to to avoid admitting an error. Just admit you are wrong man, it won't hurt you! People will respect you for it. Let's unpack this response, one by one. The map I posted clearly shows that WEST London is a Labour area.HYUFD said:
BLAHAnazina said:
Absolute rubbish. The vast majority of West London is Labour. I think you are mistaking West London with South West London!HYUFD said:
Though West London is still largely ToryStark_Dawning said:Under Theresa the Tories have very much become the party of caravan holidays and jumble sales. It's no surprise that London - a city of edginess, ambition and vim - should see them as dull and irrelevant or even a touch morbid. These days I can barely picture a Tory who wouldn't partake in tea dancing.
This is easily verifiable by simply searching google.
https://goo.gl/images/c3AqPf
Westminster [parts of it are by any means]
Chelsea Tory MP and Tory Council in Kensington and Chelsea.
Fulham Tory MP.
All those areas make up the West Central London Assembly seat which is also Tory so I was correct to say West London was mainly Tory still even if you just confine it to central West London
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/LondonParliamentaryConstituency2017Results3.png
Again hardly 'overwhelmingly Labour'0 -
54% approval rating for Khan is not overwhelming especially if the crime rate continues going up.MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
It might tempt an independent like Sugar0 -
https://twitter.com/chrisdeerin/status/981433027774513152SouthamObserver said:Andrew Adonis sounds like the right-wing nutjobs who have been howling about BBC bias for all these years. I wonder if any if them have the self-knowledge to recognise this!
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Hope you have better luck with the Jag than the Audi!DavidL said:
That's not what he said but the point he is making is daft enough. Obviously Nissan and Toyota both came here whilst we were in the EU as did Tata cars who have transformed Jaguar and Land Rover. As the proud owner of a newish Jaguar XF I can attest to the latter's achievement. Its a brilliant car to drive.williamglenn said:Redwood suggests the EU was responsible for the collapse of British Leyland!
https://twitter.com/johnredwood/status/981828937750892545?s=21
I would also suggest that as a generality taking time out of your day to show that Redwood is a fruit cake is perhaps not the most productive use of your time.0 -
It was hardly analysis. Just chucking out comments like his is beneath what I expect on PB.Tykejohnno said:
https://twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/954006520135593984?s=17MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Very poor comment mike on the - "a Muslim mayor" bit.
Maybe he doesn't like him because he thinks he's crap.
Why is it his view alone,even the poll here has him doing badly with Tories 53% and in London heading to 30%,like to see new polls after the murders in London media attention.0 -
That is quality!FrancisUrquhart said:David Lammy really is a pillock,
We haven’t seen a police while I’ve been here and I’ve been here for a little while now,” David Lammy told the BBC earlier....As a policeman stands in shot behind him…
https://order-order.com/2018/04/05/we-havent-seen-a-police-while-ive-been-here/0 -
When Boris left office there was a whole host of things that he had achieved. I thought he would be a terrible mayor but he wasn't. Obviously he had some stuff that went wrong but overall he can look back with pride at some definte acheivements. Khan is doing nothing. Now is a time for him to lead London and deal with the rising crime head on. Where is he? Hiding because he does not want to answer difficult questions. Whatever you think about Boris he would be in front of the press detailing what he was going to do. All we have now is other labour politicians cringefully trying to stick up for Khan and blame the Government.Tykejohnno said:
https://twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/954006520135593984?s=17MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Very poor comment mike on the - "a Muslim mayor" bit.
Maybe he doesn't like him because he thinks he's crap.
Why is it his view alone,even the poll here has him doing badly with Tories 53% and in London heading to 30%,like to see new polls after the murders in London media attention.0 -
Well he has delivered the Night Tube for a start, which was beyond Boris who was all blither and no delivery. It has transformed the transport system, and saved London residents ££££. I don't know if you live here, but I think you'll find he's rather popular.currystar said:
Hitler was popular with the Germans. I could not care less what religion someone comes from, its all abour performamce.MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Name something good he has done. He said he would be building 80,000 affordable homes, since he took tenure the number of social housing starts in just over a 1,000. Boris massively beat that. And Khan is a labour politician who should be helping those less well off. Its so easy to say you are going to make improvements which Khan is very good at, he is hopeless at actually doing anything.0 -
For the supporters of his main opponents to give Khan a 36% "doing well" share is an exceptional achievement. I cannot think of any similar level of support from opponents.Tykejohnno said:
https://twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/954006520135593984?s=17MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Very poor comment mike on the - "a Muslim mayor" bit.
Maybe he doesn't like him because he thinks he's crap.
Why is it his view alone,even the poll here has him doing badly with Tories 53% and in London heading to 30%,like to see new polls after the murders in London media attention.
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Really??????MikeSmithson said:
It was hardly analysis. Just chucking out comments like his is beneath what I expect on PB.Tykejohnno said:
https://twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/954006520135593984?s=17MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Very poor comment mike on the - "a Muslim mayor" bit.
Maybe he doesn't like him because he thinks he's crap.
Why is it his view alone,even the poll here has him doing badly with Tories 53% and in London heading to 30%,like to see new polls after the murders in London media attention.
How is it not analysis?
Where is Khan now????
What has he acheived????
Have you actually read any threads on PB if you think what I have written is below what you would expect on PB. The mind boggles!!!!0 -
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What about the measures to control air pollution which is a political gamble given that diesel car owners are going to be singled out?currystar said:
When Boris left office there was a whole host of things that he had achieved. I thought he would be a terrible mayor but he wasn't. Obviously he had some stuff that went wrong but overall he can look back with pride at some definte acheivements. Khan is doing nothing. Now is a time for him to lead London and deal with the rising crime head on. Where is he? Hiding because he does not want to answer difficult questions. Whatever you think about Boris he would be in front of the press detailing what he was going to do. All we have now is other labour politicians cringefully trying to stick up for Khan and blame the Government.Tykejohnno said:
https://twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/954006520135593984?s=17MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Very poor comment mike on the - "a Muslim mayor" bit.
Maybe he doesn't like him because he thinks he's crap.
Why is it his view alone,even the poll here has him doing badly with Tories 53% and in London heading to 30%,like to see new polls after the murders in London media attention.
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God alone knows what these people will do if/when Jezza loses the next election.Morris_Dancer said:0 -
A question for you, is Khan responsible for funding and staffing the Met?Morris_Dancer said:Miss Anazina, according to the below link, the Mayor is responsible for policing and crime policy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayor_of_London#Powers_and_functions
This would include stop-and-search, which is opposed by Khan. Correspondingly, stop-and-search has declined dramatically, as knife (and other potentially fatal) crime has risen.0 -
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The Government are already massively targeting diesel car owners, its hardly a political gambleMikeSmithson said:
What about the measures to control air pollution which is a political gamble given that diesel car owners are going to be singled out?currystar said:
When Boris left office there was a whole host of things that he had achieved. I thought he would be a terrible mayor but he wasn't. Obviously he had some stuff that went wrong but overall he can look back with pride at some definte acheivements. Khan is doing nothing. Now is a time for him to lead London and deal with the rising crime head on. Where is he? Hiding because he does not want to answer difficult questions. Whatever you think about Boris he would be in front of the press detailing what he was going to do. All we have now is other labour politicians cringefully trying to stick up for Khan and blame the Government.Tykejohnno said:
https://twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/954006520135593984?s=17MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Very poor comment mike on the - "a Muslim mayor" bit.
Maybe he doesn't like him because he thinks he's crap.
Why is it his view alone,even the poll here has him doing badly with Tories 53% and in London heading to 30%,like to see new polls after the murders in London media attention.0 -
The T-Charge is a visionary proposal and much warranted.MikeSmithson said:
What about the measures to control air pollution which is a political gamble given that diesel car owners are going to be singled out?currystar said:
When Boris left office there was a whole host of things that he had achieved. I thought he would be a terrible mayor but he wasn't. Obviously he had some stuff that went wrong but overall he can look back with pride at some definte acheivements. Khan is doing nothing. Now is a time for him to lead London and deal with the rising crime head on. Where is he? Hiding because he does not want to answer difficult questions. Whatever you think about Boris he would be in front of the press detailing what he was going to do. All we have now is other labour politicians cringefully trying to stick up for Khan and blame the Government.Tykejohnno said:
https://twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/954006520135593984?s=17MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Very poor comment mike on the - "a Muslim mayor" bit.
Maybe he doesn't like him because he thinks he's crap.
Why is it his view alone,even the poll here has him doing badly with Tories 53% and in London heading to 30%,like to see new polls after the murders in London media attention.
The Night Tube has changed the face of London.
The mayor does not control funding for the Met.
Can the PB Tories let us know who does?0 -
Do you actually live in London or are you another quasi PB expert who sniffs from the sidelines?currystar said:
The Government are already massively targeting diesel car owners, its hardly a political gambleMikeSmithson said:
What about the measures to control air pollution which is a political gamble given that diesel car owners are going to be singled out?currystar said:
When Boris left office there was a whole host of things that he had achieved. I thought he would be a terrible mayor but he wasn't. Obviously he had some stuff that went wrong but overall he can look back with pride at some definte acheivements. Khan is doing nothing. Now is a time for him to lead London and deal with the rising crime head on. Where is he? Hiding because he does not want to answer difficult questions. Whatever you think about Boris he would be in front of the press detailing what he was going to do. All we have now is other labour politicians cringefully trying to stick up for Khan and blame the Government.Tykejohnno said:
https://twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/954006520135593984?s=17MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Very poor comment mike on the - "a Muslim mayor" bit.
Maybe he doesn't like him because he thinks he's crap.
Why is it his view alone,even the poll here has him doing badly with Tories 53% and in London heading to 30%,like to see new polls after the murders in London media attention.0 -
Has has he done on the 80,000 affordable homes?Anazina said:
The T-Charge is a visionary proposal and much warranted.MikeSmithson said:
What about the measures to control air pollution which is a political gamble given that diesel car owners are going to be singled out?currystar said:
When Boris left office there was a whole host of things that he had achieved. I thought he would be a terrible mayor but he wasn't. Obviously he had some stuff that went wrong but overall he can look back with pride at some definte acheivements. Khan is doing nothing. Now is a time for him to lead London and deal with the rising crime head on. Where is he? Hiding because he does not want to answer difficult questions. Whatever you think about Boris he would be in front of the press detailing what he was going to do. All we have now is other labour politicians cringefully trying to stick up for Khan and blame the Government.Tykejohnno said:
https://twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/954006520135593984?s=17MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Very poor comment mike on the - "a Muslim mayor" bit.
Maybe he doesn't like him because he thinks he's crap.
Why is it his view alone,even the poll here has him doing badly with Tories 53% and in London heading to 30%,like to see new polls after the murders in London media attention.
The Night Tube has changed the face of London.
The mayor does not control funding for the Met.
Can the PB Tories let us know who does?
http://www.sadiq.london/homes_for_londoners0 -
Are they only focusing on diesel cars in the capital or something?Anazina said:
Do you actually live in London or are you another quasi PB expert who sniffs from the sidelines?currystar said:
The Government are already massively targeting diesel car owners, its hardly a political gambleMikeSmithson said:
What about the measures to control air pollution which is a political gamble given that diesel car owners are going to be singled out?currystar said:
When Boris left office there was a whole host of things that he had achieved. I thought he would be a terrible mayor but he wasn't. Obviously he had some stuff that went wrong but overall he can look back with pride at some definte acheivements. Khan is doing nothing. Now is a time for him to lead London and deal with the rising crime head on. Where is he? Hiding because he does not want to answer difficult questions. Whatever you think about Boris he would be in front of the press detailing what he was going to do. All we have now is other labour politicians cringefully trying to stick up for Khan and blame the Government.Tykejohnno said:
https://twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/954006520135593984?s=17MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Very poor comment mike on the - "a Muslim mayor" bit.
Maybe he doesn't like him because he thinks he's crap.
Why is it his view alone,even the poll here has him doing badly with Tories 53% and in London heading to 30%,like to see new polls after the murders in London media attention.0 -
Derby North is my new Rochester.rottenborough said:0 -
"Malcolm Turnbull says Australia is an option for South Africans who fear persecution"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-03/peter-dutton-escalates-row-with-south-africa/96154960 -
Isn't that exactly what Khan is doing at the moment? Do you know where he is?Anazina said:
Do you actually live in London or are you another quasi PB expert who sniffs from the sidelines?currystar said:
The Government are already massively targeting diesel car owners, its hardly a political gambleMikeSmithson said:
What about the measures to control air pollution which is a political gamble given that diesel car owners are going to be singled out?currystar said:
When Boris left office there was a whole host of things that he had achieved. I thought he would be a terrible mayor but he wasn't. Obviously he had some stuff that went wrong but overall he can look back with pride at some definte acheivements. Khan is doing nothing. Now is a time for him to lead London and deal with the rising crime head on. Where is he? Hiding because he does not want to answer difficult questions. Whatever you think about Boris he would be in front of the press detailing what he was going to do. All we have now is other labour politicians cringefully trying to stick up for Khan and blame the Government.Tykejohnno said:
https://twitter.com/TheFLZone/status/954006520135593984?s=17MikeSmithson said:
Latest YouGov Well/Badly in Londoncurrystar said:Compared to Khan, Boris Johnson's performance as London Mayor is like comparing Christiano Ronaldo with Carlton Palmer. Boris acheived a great deal as London Mayor despite all the negative stuff written about him on here and his obvious personality flaws. Khan has achieved nothing and when real leadership of the Capital is required like now he has disappeared. He is a disgraceful politician who is happy to be in front of the TV cameras to have a go at Trump or some other mad right wing loon, but not to answer for his own job performance.
Khan well 54%
Khan Badly 27%
Amongst CON voters
Khan Well 36%
Khan Badly 53%
That suggests he is doing something right and your view simply is your view alone.
Maybe you are uncomfortable in having a Muslim mayor.
http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/75psf9zu45/QueenMary_LondonResults_Feb18_VI.pdf
Very poor comment mike on the - "a Muslim mayor" bit.
Maybe he doesn't like him because he thinks he's crap.
Why is it his view alone,even the poll here has him doing badly with Tories 53% and in London heading to 30%,like to see new polls after the murders in London media attention.0
