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UnspoofableAnazina said:
There does seem to be a herd mentality among our Conservative friends on here. They don’t know when to stop. Irritating, overused one-liners like ‘unspoofable’ backfire daily.Danny565 said:
I honestly don't think anything is going to top "Corbyn is antisemitic because he spent Passover with Jews" for a long time. The Daily Mash would've dismissed such an idea for a spoof.edb said:
I don't think he's bright at all, but his more vocal opponents seem to be remarkably thick, to have such a strong hand and yet overplay it repeatedly with over-the-top attacks. If you are going to directly accuse someone of being a Czech spy, or personally anti-semitic, etc. etc. then it's really important that the accusation is not demonstrably false. Competent politicians deliver these smears via constant off-the-record briefings, not all-out attack, for a reason.Recidivist said:It might have been a lucky break that he just happened to get invited to a really ideal event by the perfect group to upset the media's preferred narrative. But he seems to have that kind of luck surprisingly often. Maybe he's not just brighter than he appears, but a great deal brighter.
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Mary Poppins?Sean_F said:
I've seen the umbrella.kingbongo said:
I was lucky enough once to read the Special Branch file about Markov - terrifyingly brutal and yet less reckless than Salisbury - it was at least aimed directly, and only at one person.ydoethur said:
I think Georgi Markov might disagree with that...LordOfReason said:This is the Lord of Reason, and this you need to consider.
There is nothing in all years of Cold War remotely equivalent to the crime committed by Putins regime in Salisbury in 2018.0 -
Hard to see a way back for City without an away goal. Liverpool more than capable of sneaking one at Eastlands with City having to leave massive gaps at the back.0
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It's still comparable.kingbongo said:
I was lucky enough once to read the Special Branch file about Markov - terrifyingly brutal and yet less reckless than Salisbury - it was at least aimed directly, and only at one person.ydoethur said:
I think Georgi Markov might disagree with that...LordOfReason said:This is the Lord of Reason, and this you need to consider.
There is nothing in all years of Cold War remotely equivalent to the crime committed by Putins regime in Salisbury in 2018.0 -
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UnspoofableAnazina said:
There does seem to be a herd mentality among our Conservative friends on here. They don’t know when to stop. Irritating, overused one-liners like ‘unspoofable’ backfire daily.Danny565 said:
I honestly don't think anything is going to top "Corbyn is antisemitic because he spent Passover with Jews" for a long time. The Daily Mash would've dismissed such an idea for a spoof.edb said:
I don't think he's bright at all, but his more vocal opponents seem to be remarkably thick, to have such a strong hand and yet overplay it repeatedly with over-the-top attacks. If you are going to directly accuse someone of being a Czech spy, or personally anti-semitic, etc. etc. then it's really important that the accusation is not demonstrably false. Competent politicians deliver these smears via constant off-the-record briefings, not all-out attack, for a reason.Recidivist said:It might have been a lucky break that he just happened to get invited to a really ideal event by the perfect group to upset the media's preferred narrative. But he seems to have that kind of luck surprisingly often. Maybe he's not just brighter than he appears, but a great deal brighter.
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Hammer meets nail.Anazina said:
There does seem to be a herd mentality among our Conservative friends on here. They don’t know when to stop. Irritating, overused one-liners like ‘unspoofable’ backfire daily.Danny565 said:
I honestly don't think anything is going to top "Corbyn is antisemitic because he spent Passover with Jews" for a long time. The Daily Mash would've dismissed such an idea for a spoof.edb said:
I don't think he's bright at all, but his more vocal opponents seem to be remarkably thick, to have such a strong hand and yet overplay it repeatedly with over-the-top attacks. If you are going to directly accuse someone of being a Czech spy, or personally anti-semitic, etc. etc. then it's really important that the accusation is not demonstrably false. Competent politicians deliver these smears via constant off-the-record briefings, not all-out attack, for a reason.Recidivist said:It might have been a lucky break that he just happened to get invited to a really ideal event by the perfect group to upset the media's preferred narrative. But he seems to have that kind of luck surprisingly often. Maybe he's not just brighter than he appears, but a great deal brighter.
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A really good response to Russia would be if if Mr Skripal recovers and is willing to do an endless heavily armoured media tour telling the world uncomfortable home truths about Putin. Lot of ifs.0
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Anazina said:
There does seem to be a herd mentality among our Conservative friends on here. They don’t know when to stop. Irritating, overused one-liners like ‘unspoofable’ backfire daily.Danny565 said:
I honestly don't think anything is going to top "Corbyn is antisemitic because he spent Passover with Jews" for a long time. The Daily Mash would've dismissed such an idea for a spoof.edb said:
I don't think he's bright at all, but his more vocal opponents seem to be remarkably thick, to have such a strong hand and yet overplay it repeatedly with over-the-top attacks. If you are going to directly accuse someone of being a Czech spy, or personally anti-semitic, etc. etc. then it's really important that the accusation is not demonstrably false. Competent politicians deliver these smears via constant off-the-record briefings, not all-out attack, for a reason.Recidivist said:It might have been a lucky break that he just happened to get invited to a really ideal event by the perfect group to upset the media's preferred narrative. But he seems to have that kind of luck surprisingly often. Maybe he's not just brighter than he appears, but a great deal brighter.
If you're backfiring daily, you may need to change your diet.
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Another fatal stabbing tonight in Hackney0
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Definitely comparable. And yet from memory I don't remember feeling or hearing the same outrage back then. In fact I seem to remember some comedian offering 'Bulgarian Brolly' awards to people he didn't like a little while later. Perhaps the Cold War made it feel sort of justifiable in a strange way?ydoethur said:
It's still comparable.kingbongo said:
I was lucky enough once to read the Special Branch file about Markov - terrifyingly brutal and yet less reckless than Salisbury - it was at least aimed directly, and only at one person.ydoethur said:
I think Georgi Markov might disagree with that...LordOfReason said:This is the Lord of Reason, and this you need to consider.
There is nothing in all years of Cold War remotely equivalent to the crime committed by Putins regime in Salisbury in 2018.0 -
It was also a gag in Yes Prime Minister. I think as you say the Cold War lent some gallows humour to it. After all it was assumed they were just the first victims in a war that would kill us all. Even Litvenenko was a logical target given he was a continuing thorn in Putin's flesh. The attack on the Skripals was just shockingly unexpected given Skripal had been exchanged and therefore in theory pardoned.Recidivist said:
Definitely comparable. And yet from memory I don't remember feeling or hearing the same outrage back then. In fact I seem to remember some comedian offering 'Bulgarian Brolly' awards to people he didn't like a little while later. Perhaps the Cold War made it feel sort of justifiable in a strange way?ydoethur said:
It's still comparable.kingbongo said:
I was lucky enough once to read the Special Branch file about Markov - terrifyingly brutal and yet less reckless than Salisbury - it was at least aimed directly, and only at one person.ydoethur said:
I think Georgi Markov might disagree with that...LordOfReason said:This is the Lord of Reason, and this you need to consider.
There is nothing in all years of Cold War remotely equivalent to the crime committed by Putins regime in Salisbury in 2018.
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Except that isn't what people were saying is it.Danny565 said:
I honestly don't think anything is going to top "Corbyn is antisemitic because he spent Passover with Jews" for a long time. The Daily Mash would've dismissed such an idea for a spoof.edb said:
I don't think he's bright at all, but his more vocal opponents seem to be remarkably thick, to have such a strong hand and yet overplay it repeatedly with over-the-top attacks. If you are going to directly accuse someone of being a Czech spy, or personally anti-semitic, etc. etc. then it's really important that the accusation is not demonstrably false. Competent politicians deliver these smears via constant off-the-record briefings, not all-out attack, for a reason.Recidivist said:It might have been a lucky break that he just happened to get invited to a really ideal event by the perfect group to upset the media's preferred narrative. But he seems to have that kind of luck surprisingly often. Maybe he's not just brighter than he appears, but a great deal brighter.
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It’s getting ridiculous now. Wtf is happening?Big_G_NorthWales said:Another fatal stabbing tonight in Hackney
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Have a look online. A lot of people are saying it.Floater said:
Except that isn't what people were saying is it.Danny565 said:
I honestly don't think anything is going to top "Corbyn is antisemitic because he spent Passover with Jews" for a long time. The Daily Mash would've dismissed such an idea for a spoof.edb said:
I don't think he's bright at all, but his more vocal opponents seem to be remarkably thick, to have such a strong hand and yet overplay it repeatedly with over-the-top attacks. If you are going to directly accuse someone of being a Czech spy, or personally anti-semitic, etc. etc. then it's really important that the accusation is not demonstrably false. Competent politicians deliver these smears via constant off-the-record briefings, not all-out attack, for a reason.Recidivist said:It might have been a lucky break that he just happened to get invited to a really ideal event by the perfect group to upset the media's preferred narrative. But he seems to have that kind of luck surprisingly often. Maybe he's not just brighter than he appears, but a great deal brighter.
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2200 news tonight. BBC measured for once. ITV & Sky sounding like Putin apologist's. Do any of the cretins at Sky and ITV want the UK to reveal what is fully known & expose our secret asset's? Certainly seems that way.0
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Haven't been keeping up with the news today.
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It is alarming and spreading real fear in communities, though I heard earlier that the communities are not providing information to the policeGallowgate said:
It’s getting ridiculous now. Wtf is happening?Big_G_NorthWales said:Another fatal stabbing tonight in Hackney
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/04/us-national-guard-deployed-mexico-border-immediately/
Just seen that
Corbynistas keep saying it - like a lot of things they say it just happens not to be the truthRecidivist said:
Have a look online. A lot of people are saying it.Floater said:
Except that isn't what people were saying is it.Danny565 said:
I honestly don't think anything is going to top "Corbyn is antisemitic because he spent Passover with Jews" for a long time. The Daily Mash would've dismissed such an idea for a spoof.edb said:
I don't think he's bright at all, but his more vocal opponents seem to be remarkably thick, to have such a strong hand and yet overplay it repeatedly with over-the-top attacks. If you are going to directly accuse someone of being a Czech spy, or personally anti-semitic, etc. etc. then it's really important that the accusation is not demonstrably false. Competent politicians deliver these smears via constant off-the-record briefings, not all-out attack, for a reason.Recidivist said:It might have been a lucky break that he just happened to get invited to a really ideal event by the perfect group to upset the media's preferred narrative. But he seems to have that kind of luck surprisingly often. Maybe he's not just brighter than he appears, but a great deal brighter.
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BBC have been measured for a while but Sky has been pathetic recently both with Brexit and now this. Not sure if it is policy or just poor journalism. I rarely watch ITV but on the odd occasion they do seem to follow the Sky playbooksaddo said:2200 news tonight. BBC measured for once. ITV & Sky sounding like Putin apologist's. Do any of the cretins at Sky and ITV want the UK to reveal what is fully known & expose our secret asset's? Certainly seems that way.
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Meanwhile in the real world, Corbyn himself concedes that he has a serious anti-semitism problem, and is clearly rattled: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/04/jeremy-corbyn-jewish-leaders-antisemitism-talks-labourDanny565 said:
I honestly don't think anything is going to top "Corbyn is antisemitic because he spent Passover with Jews" for a long time. The Daily Mash would've dismissed such an idea for a spoof.edb said:
I don't think he's bright at all, but his more vocal opponents seem to be remarkably thick, to have such a strong hand and yet overplay it repeatedly with over-the-top attacks. If you are going to directly accuse someone of being a Czech spy, or personally anti-semitic, etc. etc. then it's really important that the accusation is not demonstrably false. Competent politicians deliver these smears via constant off-the-record briefings, not all-out attack, for a reason.Recidivist said:It might have been a lucky break that he just happened to get invited to a really ideal event by the perfect group to upset the media's preferred narrative. But he seems to have that kind of luck surprisingly often. Maybe he's not just brighter than he appears, but a great deal brighter.
and the BBC spin on the (I agree, neither here nor there) Jewdas thing is the headline "Labour anti-Semitism row: Corbyn defends appearance at Jewdas event."
I don't want to sound unduly hurtful, but on your efforts to date I am inclined to classify you in the "useful idiot, without the useful bit" subcategory of Labour supporters.0 -
Man killed in Hackney stabbing
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-43649193
It was fascinating segment on the Radio Daily Mirror this morning, where various community types blamed everybody but the individuals, one even said we need to get past blaming people...but its all Mrs May fault, but not Khan, despite them saying one reason was a decrease in police on the beat...which has occurred since Khan had been mayor.
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I remember the days when #SackCameron was a daily twitter trend...GIN1138 said:Haven't been keeping up with the news today.
Why is #SackBoris trending on Twitter?0 -
Well I don't know who these Corbynistas you are talking about are, or what untrue things you have discovered them saying. But you have to admit that attending a passover celebration is not behaviour that would not normally attract the charge of antisemitism.Floater said:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/04/us-national-guard-deployed-mexico-border-immediately/
Just seen that
Corbynistas keep saying it - like a lot of things they say it just happens not to be the truthRecidivist said:
Have a look online. A lot of people are saying it.Floater said:
Except that isn't what people were saying is it.Danny565 said:
I honestly don't think anything is going to top "Corbyn is antisemitic because he spent Passover with Jews" for a long time. The Daily Mash would've dismissed such an idea for a spoof.edb said:
I don't think he's bright at all, but his more vocal opponents seem to be remarkably thick, to have such a strong hand and yet overplay it repeatedly with over-the-top attacks. If you are going to directly accuse someone of being a Czech spy, or personally anti-semitic, etc. etc. then it's really important that the accusation is not demonstrably false. Competent politicians deliver these smears via constant off-the-record briefings, not all-out attack, for a reason.Recidivist said:It might have been a lucky break that he just happened to get invited to a really ideal event by the perfect group to upset the media's preferred narrative. But he seems to have that kind of luck surprisingly often. Maybe he's not just brighter than he appears, but a great deal brighter.
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See also "useful idiot". A phrase that's acontextually overused here to a ridiculous degree.Anazina said:
There does seem to be a herd mentality among our Conservative friends on here. They don’t know when to stop. Irritating, overused one-liners like ‘unspoofable’ backfire daily.Danny565 said:
I honestly don't think anything is going to top "Corbyn is antisemitic because he spent Passover with Jews" for a long time. The Daily Mash would've dismissed such an idea for a spoof.edb said:
I don't think he's bright at all, but his more vocal opponents seem to be remarkably thick, to have such a strong hand and yet overplay it repeatedly with over-the-top attacks. If you are going to directly accuse someone of being a Czech spy, or personally anti-semitic, etc. etc. then it's really important that the accusation is not demonstrably false. Competent politicians deliver these smears via constant off-the-record briefings, not all-out attack, for a reason.Recidivist said:It might have been a lucky break that he just happened to get invited to a really ideal event by the perfect group to upset the media's preferred narrative. But he seems to have that kind of luck surprisingly often. Maybe he's not just brighter than he appears, but a great deal brighter.
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