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Fifteen years ago Toby Young had a bet of £15,000 with Nigella Lawson that Boris Johnson would become Tory leader by 2018.
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Sounds almost perfect.
Edit - arguably if those are the exact terms of the bet he lost it at midnight on the 31st December 2017.
Most likely the Domestic Goddess used her womanly wiles to extract even money from the hapless dingo.
But just assume for a moment that the Russian State is not responsible. Immediately after the attack they wouldn't know who was responsible. They would vehemently reject the accusation and ask for evidence and samples.
I'm trying to be objective and have still come to the conclusion that it was the Russian State. But your emotional reaction "Bat-shit crazy" "Bonkers theory" suggests a hidden insecurity on your part about the affair and how it might pan out. Yes?
Victim of some shocking anti Semitism from Harold MacMillan.
What sort of PM would he be? Hopefully like he was as Mayor with a good team around him doing all the heavy lifting for him whilst he did the PR. Sort of like Blair before he got all messianic. Getting a good enough team from the current front bench is a bit of an ask but there is lots of younger talent coming through as we were discussing on the last thread.
For me Gove remains the brains of the operation, in the absence of Osborne. He has ideas and ambitions that go well beyond being a competent manager, perhaps the lofty peak of May's ambition. But I fully accept that this is a minority view and unlikely to happen.
The reason I say that is because if this *isn't* the Russian state, then it is somebody who has access to their technology and hostile intent towards its citizens and security services. It would be very much in their interests to find out who such a person was as they would be a menace to national security.
In practice however they have more or less admitted it and are basically trolling now. Why they think that makes them look clever or strong I don't know.
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/981554455106727941
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/981554602507210752
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/981554656961810433
As for your second paragraph, if Russia were not responsible, then in the immediate aftermath of the attack they would have expressed their complete horror; instead they treated it as a joke. If they were not responsible, then in the immediate aftermath of the attack they would have expressed full solidarity with the UK and offered every assistance; instead they treated it as a joke. That puts it beyond reasonable doubt, even for those of us who don't have access to the intelligence information. If you're still engaged with bonkers conspiracy theories, listen to Vince Cable, or the Australian, Canadian, French, German, Swedish, and all the other independent governments who have been given more information.
https://twitter.com/patrickwintour/status/981551789655887872
And of course Corbyn, Diane Abbott, George Galloway, Ken Livingstone - notice a pattern here?
Interesting also to note that there is no gender pay gap at the Premier League Football clubs indeed many report that their women employees get paid more than their male ones.
*cough cough*
bbc.co.uk/news/business-43632763
That might just worry the largest Commonwealth country....
And I agree that the Russian responses, particularly Lavrov's recent claims that it was done by the UK Government as a distraction from Brexit, are utterly ridiculous. I assume it was a joke or a dig rather than a serious accusation.
And, I repeat, that I am fairly sure (90%) that Russia did it.
But I'm reminded of Henry Fonda in 12 Angry Men.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbr1HmrplN0
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/11/14/boris-johnsons-favourability-takes-big-hit-among-c/
14 at 4.19pm down to 6 at 4.43pm.
Russia must be all alone by now surely
Russia's guilt would be established beyond a reasonable doubt here on their subsequent conduct alone but the means was intended to draw attention to their role and emphasise it, not hide it. I simply cannot understand the mentality of anyone who has any doubt about this at all and I have nothing but contempt for those in positions of authority who seem willing to play the Russian's game for them.
Yes Corbyn, that would be you.
Gah.
BoJo is the bloke who breaks down at the end.
https://www.ft.com/content/81aea830-0238-11e8-9650-9c0ad2d7c5b5
Russia's aid is reported to be $ 2 billion a year, replacing the American aid.
I'm certain that Pakistan doesn't believe Russia's innocence, but that's not why they would vote with them.
Boris was also the public's clear favourite to succeed May in a February poll with Rees Mogg second and Davidson and Hammond joint third
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-best-prime-minister-second-favourite-best-prime-minister-exclusive-new-poll-the-a8205521.html?amp
Would they be the same wealthy liberals who were outraged at the prospect of being asked to use the wealth tied up in their houses to pay for their own care in old age? So outraged in fact that they voted for the party which promised them that they could keep their wealth.
Anfield Road is rammed two hours before kick off.
Fu*k em.
I find it strange how Jeremy Corbyn seems to always end up being vindicated.
The question now is if it wasn't Russia then who did plan the Salisbury nerve agent dispersal?
An unnamed diplomatic source told the agency that the vote was lost by 15-6 with 17 OPCW member states abstaining. Russia gained support from China, Azerbaijan, Sudan, Algeria and Iran, Reuters said.
So it doesn't look as though Pakistan voted on the Russian side, although they were quoted earlier as supporting the Russian position.
To be fair, not many of the OPCW states would have had much information on the issue.
This is all about realpolitik, or The Great Game redux.
Corbyn is coming under attack now for siding with Russia.
Boris is unreliable but the International coalition is holding and the EU endorses the UK
I think in all likelihood it was Russia still but like someone said earlier i am at 90% not the 101% stated by Boris.
WMD 2??? Maybe not but the OPCW report will be interesting.
https://bit.ly/2GXhgDI
But we should also remember Litvinenko. They've done it before; therefore it's reasonable to use that as part of the evidence that they've done it again, especially after the then-government's limp-wristed reaction to that murder.
As suggested by Jezza
did Liverpool sign that Woking defender yet btw?
What was this then?
Genuine question
An unnamed diplomatic source told the agency that the vote was lost by 15-6 with 17 OPCW member states abstaining. Russia gained support from China, Azerbaijan, Sudan, Algeria and Iran, Reuters said.
In any case, hasn’t the OPCW just voted in the UK’s favour?