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Not going anywhere. Other clubs should have caught on by now, our owner is rich enough to not sell any player that we want to keep. Maguire has a five year contract to Leicester.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Maguire is on United's radar I believeFoxy said:
Another former Leicester player, but Maguire started the moveBig_G_NorthWales said:
Linguard of courseFoxy said:Will England ever score another goal? Maguire looking good
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So, do you prefer Ethereum or are you a Litecoin kind of guy?Charles said:
I don’t do bitcoin!rcs1000 said:
In fiat currencies?Charles said:
75% still in cash (we went all cash in December)Ishmael_Z said:
Brave.Charles said:
FWIW Caz have just deployed 25% on a cash reserve my foundation had into equities...stodge said:Evening all
In truth, something for everyone in the week's local by-election results and little to be gleaned at a national level.
I've never been at a count where the result has been tied - is there a single method to decide used everywhere ? I've heard the drawing of lots or the toss of a coin being used but I suppose it's up to the discretion of the returning officer.
It's a horrible way to lose.
The DJIA has lost in excess of 2,000 points since February 26th when it was 25,709. I make that close to correction territory (10%). The FTSE has lost 870 points since its high in January of 7792.6 so more than 10% given up and the index is where it was in August 2016 so all the "Trump Bump" erased.
Sterling still a few cents below the pre 23/6/16 level but against the Euro still 14 cents below the pre-Referendum numbers.0 -
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Foxy said:
Not going anywhere. Other clubs should have caught on by now, our owner is rich enough to not sell any player that we want to keep. Maguire has a five year contract to Leicester.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Maguire is on United's radar I believeFoxy said:
Another former Leicester player, but Maguire started the moveBig_G_NorthWales said:
Linguard of courseFoxy said:Will England ever score another goal? Maguire looking good
United can pay wages for a player they want that few if any could match
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Money talks and bigger clubs.Foxy said:
Not going anywhere. Other clubs should have caught on by now, our owner is rich enough to not sell any player that we want to keep. Maguire has a five year contract to Leicester.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Maguire is on United's radar I believeFoxy said:
Another former Leicester player, but Maguire started the moveBig_G_NorthWales said:
Linguard of courseFoxy said:Will England ever score another goal? Maguire looking good
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I skipped past a preroll ad the other day which I swear was advocating some kind of porn themed crytocurrency, whatever the point of that would be. The site was family friendly, so I suppose good on the targeting algorithms for knowing I have viewed pornography and stories on crypto currencies elsewhere I guess.rcs1000 said:
So, do you prefer Ethereum or are you a Litecoin kind of guy?Charles said:
I don’t do bitcoin!rcs1000 said:
In fiat currencies?Charles said:
75% still in cash (we went all cash in December)Ishmael_Z said:
Brave.Charles said:
FWIW Caz have just deployed 25% on a cash reserve my foundation had into equities...stodge said:Evening all
In truth, something for everyone in the week's local by-election results and little to be gleaned at a national level.
I've never been at a count where the result has been tied - is there a single method to decide used everywhere ? I've heard the drawing of lots or the toss of a coin being used but I suppose it's up to the discretion of the returning officer.
It's a horrible way to lose.
The DJIA has lost in excess of 2,000 points since February 26th when it was 25,709. I make that close to correction territory (10%). The FTSE has lost 870 points since its high in January of 7792.6 so more than 10% given up and the index is where it was in August 2016 so all the "Trump Bump" erased.
Sterling still a few cents below the pre 23/6/16 level but against the Euro still 14 cents below the pre-Referendum numbers.0 -
I think some of those are definitely hot wars! You may recall that I have opposed all the things that you mention, we merely argue the means and style.glw said:
In recent years Russia has invaded two neighbouring countries (annexing part of one). They are propping up Assad. They supplied the missile and maybe the troops that shot down an airliner. Russia routinely assassinates opponents at home and abroad. Russia seems to be in violation of the CWC. Russia directly interfered in the US Presidential election. Russia has also announced that they intend to develop the maddest range of nuclear weapons yet seen.Foxy said:Considering the media has been asking for a fortnight "is this the start of a new Cold War?" it is perfectly reasonable to say that is not the road that we should travel, and that maintaining dialogue matters while applying sanctions that hurt the Putin oligarchs.
So if you ask "is this the start of a new Cold War?" The answer is almost certainly yes, because whatever we might want Russia seems to have already started it.0 -
He seems very keen to get his name in the papers a lot.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/9772939154549186570 -
He really needs to grow upTheuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/9772939154549186570 -
Popcorn timeScott_P said:0 -
Could be a bad move - Corbyn could well show up, condemn anti-semitism, and then some of the people who were angry will persuade themselves the pleasant old man is being attacked for no reason.Scott_P said:0 -
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least six contributors who are usually sensible, articulate, and well respected who simply go OTT bananas on the subject of Corbyn. I find it very odd and I'm constantly surprised. I'm not going to link to them but I know who they are and you do too I suspect.Ishmael_Z said:
Really? Who is doing this (with link)? My take on him is that he is a profoundly stupid man of a type very common on the Left, all the way from Scargill and Skinner down to the sort of students who like to go "on protests" generically (i.e. without reference to what the protest is a protest against), of interest only because of the mismatch between his abilities and his job. Not sure what you refer to when you say "leading his party to success."Barnesian said:It is very strange how Corbyn makes people who are normally sane and articulate go quite bananas.
The emotion is so strong that it is clearly not a normal rational evaluation but something quite deep. I suspect it is the fact that he is a clever politician and a strong leader that is leading his party to success that really freaks them out. They desperately thrash around trying to derail him, without success. It must be very frustrating.
Leading his party to success means getting it into power. It's a combination of clever popular policies (unlike the Tories), mobilising a large group of enthusiastic activists (unlike the Tories), maintaining party discipline including firing people who get out of line (unlike Mrs M), and steadfastly shrugging off personal attacks without retaliation.
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Or starting a war our young Winston. ;-)kle4 said:
He seems very keen to get his name in the papers a lot.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/9772939154549186570 -
There were plenty of hot wars in Cold War 1.0 as well.Foxy said:I think some of those are definitely hot wars! You may recall that I have opposed all the things that you mention, we merely argue the means and style.
There's even this today.
Russia 'arming the Afghan Taliban', says US
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-43500299
If this isn't Cold War 2.0 whatever it is is doing a damn good impression.0 -
Oh dear, are the Tories getting complacent again because of a few decent weeks?
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/strong-and-stable-theresa-mays-tories-are-backing-the-pm-once-again-after-her-russia-performance/0 -
After the scripted "tell Russia to shut up" remark, my guess is he has gone to some Lynton Crosby type character who has advised him, in effect, to be a twat to secure the IDS wing of the party membership in the next leadership contest. Difficult to disentangle malice from incompetence here, though.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/9772939154549186570 -
If you say so. Don't think he's a very good fortnight personally, and his party is a shambles currently.Barnesian said:
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least six contributors who are usually sensible, articulate, and well respected who simply go OTT bananas on the subject of Corbyn. I find it very odd and I'm constantly surprised. I'm not going to link to them but I know who they are and you do too I suspect.Ishmael_Z said:
Really? Who is doing this (with link)? My take on him is that he is a profoundly stupid man of a type very common on the Left, all the way from Scargill and Skinner down to the sort of students who like to go "on protests" generically (i.e. without reference to what the protest is a protest against), of interest only because of the mismatch between his abilities and his job. Not sure what you refer to when you say "leading his party to success."Barnesian said:It is very strange how Corbyn makes people who are normally sane and articulate go quite bananas.
The emotion is so strong that it is clearly not a normal rational evaluation but something quite deep. I suspect it is the fact that he is a clever politician and a strong leader that is leading his party to success that really freaks them out. They desperately thrash around trying to derail him, without success. It must be very frustrating.
Leading his party to success means getting it into power. It's a combination of clever popular policies (unlike the Tories), mobilising a large group of enthusiastic activists (unlike the Tories), maintaining party discipline including firing people who get out of line (unlike Mrs M), and steadfastly shrugging off personal attacks without retaliation.0 -
He seems to be the unofficial minister for tabloid headlines.kle4 said:
He seems very keen to get his name in the papers a lot.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/9772939154549186570 -
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/9772939154549186570 -
Well, in fairness, that's just keeping to the spirit of the times.steve_garner said:
his party is a shambles currently.Barnesian said:
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least six contributors who are usually sensible, articulate, and well respected who simply go OTT bananas on the subject of Corbyn. I find it very odd and I'm constantly surprised. I'm not going to link to them but I know who they are and you do too I suspect.Ishmael_Z said:
Really? Who is doing this (with link)? My take on him is that he is a profoundly stupid man of a type very common on the Left, all the way from Scargill and Skinner down to the sort of students who like to go "on protests" generically (i.e. without reference to what the protest is a protest against), of interest only because of the mismatch between his abilities and his job. Not sure what you refer to when you say "leading his party to success."Barnesian said:It is very strange how Corbyn makes people who are normally sane and articulate go quite bananas.
The emotion is so strong that it is clearly not a normal rational evaluation but something quite deep. I suspect it is the fact that he is a clever politician and a strong leader that is leading his party to success that really freaks them out. They desperately thrash around trying to derail him, without success. It must be very frustrating.
Leading his party to success means getting it into power. It's a combination of clever popular policies (unlike the Tories), mobilising a large group of enthusiastic activists (unlike the Tories), maintaining party discipline including firing people who get out of line (unlike Mrs M), and steadfastly shrugging off personal attacks without retaliation.0 -
Strictly real estate, paintings and wine.rcs1000 said:
So, do you prefer Ethereum or are you a Litecoin kind of guy?Charles said:
I don’t do bitcoin!rcs1000 said:
In fiat currencies?Charles said:
75% still in cash (we went all cash in December)Ishmael_Z said:
Brave.Charles said:
FWIW Caz have just deployed 25% on a cash reserve my foundation had into equities...stodge said:Evening all
In truth, something for everyone in the week's local by-election results and little to be gleaned at a national level.
I've never been at a count where the result has been tied - is there a single method to decide used everywhere ? I've heard the drawing of lots or the toss of a coin being used but I suppose it's up to the discretion of the returning officer.
It's a horrible way to lose.
The DJIA has lost in excess of 2,000 points since February 26th when it was 25,709. I make that close to correction territory (10%). The FTSE has lost 870 points since its high in January of 7792.6 so more than 10% given up and the index is where it was in August 2016 so all the "Trump Bump" erased.
Sterling still a few cents below the pre 23/6/16 level but against the Euro still 14 cents below the pre-Referendum numbers.0 -
This is a good piece on the need to address the ideological element of Putin's hybrid war.glw said:If this isn't Cold War 2.0 whatever it is is doing a damn good impression.
http://observer.com/2018/03/russia-putin-ideology-rules-cold-war-2-0-like-soviet-communism/
At the dawn of the last Cold War, the West, led by the United States, made serious political outreach to social democrats to embrace law-based democracy, to undercut the appeal of the Soviet-backed far-left. This effort bore considerable fruit and needs to be copied today to undercut Moscow’s aggressive messaging. This means reaching out to moderate nationalists and social conservatives who want to preserve Western democracy and the rule of law against the Russian threat. There are many more of them than our WEIRD (Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich and Democratic) elites realize. If we do not, those citizens will be left with no ideological alternative except the Kremlin’s. The necessary first step is admitting that the other side in Cold War 2.0 has an ideology at all.0 -
How would you define a hot war? The only time the soldiers of the United States and a major Communist state saw combat action against each other was in Korea in the 50s - and even then the Communist state was China. Otherwise it was generally Wars fought by proxy via local militias, with the important exceptions for the Americans of Vietnam and the Soviets of Afghanistan.glw said:
There were plenty of hot wars in Cold War 1.0 as well.Foxy said:I think some of those are definitely hot wars! You may recall that I have opposed all the things that you mention, we merely argue the means and style.
There's even this today.
Russia 'arming the Afghan Taliban', says US
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-43500299
If this isn't Cold War 2.0 whatever it is is doing a damn good impression.0 -
I hope not but a lot in that article is true - TM is in a strong position in her party at present.kle4 said:Oh dear, are the Tories getting complacent again because of a few decent weeks?
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/strong-and-stable-theresa-mays-tories-are-backing-the-pm-once-again-after-her-russia-performance/
But no, absolutely, no talk of an election please0 -
He is so immatureBarnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/9772939154549186570 -
Have I slipped back a year in a timewarp? This sort of thing was being routinely opined in March 2017. What happened next?steve_garner said:
If you say so. Don't think he's a very good fortnight personally, and his party is a shambles currently.Barnesian said:
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least six contributors who are usually sensible, articulate, and well respected who simply go OTT bananas on the subject of Corbyn. I find it very odd and I'm constantly surprised. I'm not going to link to them but I know who they are and you do too I suspect.Ishmael_Z said:
Really? Who is doing this (with link)? My take on him is that he is a profoundly stupid man of a type very common on the Left, all the way from Scargill and Skinner down to the sort of students who like to go "on protests" generically (i.e. without reference to what the protest is a protest against), of interest only because of the mismatch between his abilities and his job. Not sure what you refer to when you say "leading his party to success."Barnesian said:It is very strange how Corbyn makes people who are normally sane and articulate go quite bananas.
The emotion is so strong that it is clearly not a normal rational evaluation but something quite deep. I suspect it is the fact that he is a clever politician and a strong leader that is leading his party to success that really freaks them out. They desperately thrash around trying to derail him, without success. It must be very frustrating.
Leading his party to success means getting it into power. It's a combination of clever popular policies (unlike the Tories), mobilising a large group of enthusiastic activists (unlike the Tories), maintaining party discipline including firing people who get out of line (unlike Mrs M), and steadfastly shrugging off personal attacks without retaliation.0 -
Ladbrokes have him at 5/1 third favourite behind May herself and Boris. Both have had OK weeks so odds will perhaps lengthen a touch.Barnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/977293915454918657
Personally I would have said the value is fourth favourite David Davis at 6/1. I will be very surprised if he is still in post in a year's time. Not only would he be pushing seventy but we will have left the EU and his job will have ended. There seems little hope of a promotion and I doubt if he would accept a lesser post.
I'm also surprised Liam Fox is 10/1. Seriously?0 -
Wrong question. The right question is what happens next?Foxy said:
Have I slipped back a year in a timewarp? This sort of thing was being routinely opined in March 2017. What happened next?steve_garner said:
If you say so. Don't think he's a very good fortnight personally, and his party is a shambles currently.Barnesian said:
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least six contributors who are usually sensible, articulate, and well respected who simply go OTT bananas on the subject of Corbyn. I find it very odd and I'm constantly surprised. I'm not going to link to them but I know who they are and you do too I suspect.Ishmael_Z said:
Really? Who is doing this (with link)? My take on him is that he is a profoundly stupid man of a type very common on the Left, all the way from Scargill and Skinner down to the sort of students who like to go "on protests" generically (i.e. without reference to what the protest is a protest against), of interest only because of the mismatch between his abilities and his job. Not sure what you refer to when you say "leading his party to success."Barnesian said:It is very strange how Corbyn makes people who are normally sane and articulate go quite bananas.
The emotion is so strong that it is clearly not a normal rational evaluation but something quite deep. I suspect it is the fact that he is a clever politician and a strong leader that is leading his party to success that really freaks them out. They desperately thrash around trying to derail him, without success. It must be very frustrating.
Leading his party to success means getting it into power. It's a combination of clever popular policies (unlike the Tories), mobilising a large group of enthusiastic activists (unlike the Tories), maintaining party discipline including firing people who get out of line (unlike Mrs M), and steadfastly shrugging off personal attacks without retaliation.0 -
Er - he lost an electionFoxy said:
Have I slipped back a year in a timewarp? This sort of thing was being routinely opined in March 2017. What happened next?steve_garner said:
If you say so. Don't think he's a very good fortnight personally, and his party is a shambles currently.Barnesian said:
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least six contributors who are usually sensible, articulate, and well respected who simply go OTT bananas on the subject of Corbyn. I find it very odd and I'm constantly surprised. I'm not going to link to them but I know who they are and you do too I suspect.Ishmael_Z said:
Really? Who is doing this (with link)? My take on him is that he is a profoundly stupid man of a type very common on the Left, all the way from Scargill and Skinner down to the sort of students who like to go "on protests" generically (i.e. without reference to what the protest is a protest against), of interest only because of the mismatch between his abilities and his job. Not sure what you refer to when you say "leading his party to success."Barnesian said:It is very strange how Corbyn makes people who are normally sane and articulate go quite bananas.
The emotion is so strong that it is clearly not a normal rational evaluation but something quite deep. I suspect it is the fact that he is a clever politician and a strong leader that is leading his party to success that really freaks them out. They desperately thrash around trying to derail him, without success. It must be very frustrating.
Leading his party to success means getting it into power. It's a combination of clever popular policies (unlike the Tories), mobilising a large group of enthusiastic activists (unlike the Tories), maintaining party discipline including firing people who get out of line (unlike Mrs M), and steadfastly shrugging off personal attacks without retaliation.0 -
The Copeland by-election which triggered the most unwise general election - from every point of view - since Baldwin fought the 1923 election on making food more expensive.Foxy said:
Have I slipped back a year in a timewarp? This sort of thing was being routinely opined in March 2017. What happened next?steve_garner said:
If you say so. Don't think he's a very good fortnight personally, and his party is a shambles currently.Barnesian said:
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least six contributors who are usually sensible, articulate, and well respected who simply go OTT bananas on the subject of Corbyn. I find it very odd and I'm constantly surprised. I'm not going to link to them but I know who they are and you do too I suspect.Ishmael_Z said:
Really? Who is doing this (with link)? My take on him is that he is a profoundly stupid man of a type very common on the Left, all the way from Scargill and Skinner down to the sort of students who like to go "on protests" generically (i.e. without reference to what the protest is a protest against), of interest only because of the mismatch between his abilities and his job. Not sure what you refer to when you say "leading his party to success."Barnesian said:It is very strange how Corbyn makes people who are normally sane and articulate go quite bananas.
The emotion is so strong that it is clearly not a normal rational evaluation but something quite deep. I suspect it is the fact that he is a clever politician and a strong leader that is leading his party to success that really freaks them out. They desperately thrash around trying to derail him, without success. It must be very frustrating.
Leading his party to success means getting it into power. It's a combination of clever popular policies (unlike the Tories), mobilising a large group of enthusiastic activists (unlike the Tories), maintaining party discipline including firing people who get out of line (unlike Mrs M), and steadfastly shrugging off personal attacks without retaliation.0 -
I suspect that we will see in the May Local elections.steve_garner said:
Wrong question. The right question is what happens next?Foxy said:
Have I slipped back a year in a timewarp? This sort of thing was being routinely opined in March 2017. What happened next?steve_garner said:
If you say so. Don't think he's a very good fortnight personally, and his party is a shambles currently.Barnesian said:
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least six contributors who are usually sensible, articulate, and well respected who simply go OTT bananas on the subject of Corbyn. I find it very odd and I'm constantly surprised. I'm not going to link to them but I know who they are and you do too I suspect.Ishmael_Z said:
Really? Who is doing this (with link)? My take on him is that he is a profoundly stupid man of a type very common on the Left, all the way from Scargill and Skinner down to the sort of students who like to go "on protests" generically (i.e. without reference to what the protest is a protest against), of interest only because of the mismatch between his abilities and his job. Not sure what you refer to when you say "leading his party to success."Barnesian said:It is very strange how Corbyn makes people who are normally sane and articulate go quite bananas.
The emotion is so strong that it is clearly not a normal rational evaluation but something quite deep. I suspect it is the fact that he is a clever politician and a strong leader that is leading his party to success that really freaks them out. They desperately thrash around trying to derail him, without success. It must be very frustrating.
Leading his party to success means getting it into power. It's a combination of clever popular policies (unlike the Tories), mobilising a large group of enthusiastic activists (unlike the Tories), maintaining party discipline including firing people who get out of line (unlike Mrs M), and steadfastly shrugging off personal attacks without retaliation.0 -
Untrue - a year ago it would not have been 'don't think he's had a very good fortnight' it would have been 'don't think he's had a good year'. The former recognises he has had some good times. And how many people are saying they think, because of his having a bad couple of weeks compared to his time since last June, that the Tories should try for an election? Not many.Foxy said:
Have I slipped back a year in a timewarp? This sort of thing was being routinely opined in March 2017.steve_garner said:
If you say so. Don't think he's a very good fortnight personally, and his party is a shambles currently.Barnesian said:
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least six contributors who are usually sensible, articulate, and well respected who simply go OTT bananas on the subject of Corbyn. I find it very odd and I'm constantly surprised. I'm not going to link to them but I know who they are and you do too I suspect.Ishmael_Z said:
Really? Who is doing this (with link)? My take on him is that he is a profoundly stupid man of a type very common on the Left, all the way from Scargill and Skinner down to the sort of students who like to go "on protests" generically (i.e. without reference to what the protest is a protest against), of interest only because of the mismatch between his abilities and his job. Not sure what you refer to when you say "leading his party to success."Barnesian said:It is very strange how Corbyn makes people who are normally sane and articulate go quite bananas.
The emotion is so strong that it is clearly not a normal rational evaluation but something quite deep. I suspect it is the fact that he is a clever politician and a strong leader that is leading his party to success that really freaks them out. They desperately thrash around trying to derail him, without success. It must be very frustrating.
Leading his party to success means getting it into power. It's a combination of clever popular policies (unlike the Tories), mobilising a large group of enthusiastic activists (unlike the Tories), maintaining party discipline including firing people who get out of line (unlike Mrs M), and steadfastly shrugging off personal attacks without retaliation.
So there is nothing necessarily incorrect in saying that he has had a relatively bad couple of weeks, nor that there were indications the party was in a shambles, there were plenty of reports (which, in fairness, and as predicted, not amounted to anything).0 -
I keep saying, the next leader will be a femaleydoethur said:
Ladbrokes have him at 5/1 third favourite behind May herself and Boris. Both have had OK weeks so odds will perhaps lengthen a touch.Barnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/977293915454918657
Personally I would have said the value is fourth favourite David Davis at 6/1. I will be very surprised if he is still in post in a year's time. Not only would he be pushing seventy but we will have left the EU and his job will have ended. There seems little hope of a promotion and I doubt if he would accept a lesser post.
I'm also surprised Liam Fox is 10/1. Seriously?0 -
Which as we know, are not always very indicative even of GEs coming up very shortly afterwards. But Labour should be in for a good night. I'm more interested in your old buddies, the Lid Dems.Foxy said:
I suspect that we will see in the May Local elections.steve_garner said:
Wrong question. The right question is what happens next?Foxy said:
Have I slipped back a year in a timewarp? This sort of thing was being routinely opined in March 2017. What happened next?steve_garner said:
If you say so. Don't think he's a very good fortnight personally, and his party is a shambles currently.Barnesian said:
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least six contributors who are usually sensible, articulate, and well respected who simply go OTT bananas on the subject of Corbyn. I find it very odd and I'm constantly surprised. I'm not going to link to them but I know who they are and you do too I suspect.Ishmael_Z said:
Really? Who is doing this (with link)? My take on him is that he is a profoundly stupid man of a type very common on the Left, all the way from Scargill and Skinner down to the sort of students who like to go "on protests" generically (i.e. without reference to what the protest is a protest against), of interest only because of the mismatch between his abilities and his job. Not sure what you refer to when you say "leading his party to success."Barnesian said:It is very strange how Corbyn makes people who are normally sane and articulate go quite bananas.
The emotion is so strong that it is clearly not a normal rational evaluation but something quite deep. I suspect it is the fact that he is a clever politician and a strong leader that is leading his party to success that really freaks them out. They desperately thrash around trying to derail him, without success. It must be very frustrating.
Leading his party to success means getting it into power. It's a combination of clever popular policies (unlike the Tories), mobilising a large group of enthusiastic activists (unlike the Tories), maintaining party discipline including firing people who get out of line (unlike Mrs M), and steadfastly shrugging off personal attacks without retaliation.0 -
That's next to leave the cabinet, not next leader!Big_G_NorthWales said:
I keep saying, the next leader will be a femaleydoethur said:
Ladbrokes have him at 5/1 third favourite behind May herself and Boris. Both have had OK weeks so odds will perhaps lengthen a touch.Barnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/977293915454918657
Personally I would have said the value is fourth favourite David Davis at 6/1. I will be very surprised if he is still in post in a year's time. Not only would he be pushing seventy but we will have left the EU and his job will have ended. There seems little hope of a promotion and I doubt if he would accept a lesser post.
I'm also surprised Liam Fox is 10/1. Seriously?0 -
I expect labour will have an outstanding night in London, the cons and lib dems better in the rest of EnglandFoxy said:
I suspect that we will see in the May Local elections.steve_garner said:
Wrong question. The right question is what happens next?Foxy said:
Have I slipped back a year in a timewarp? This sort of thing was being routinely opined in March 2017. What happened next?steve_garner said:
If you say so. Don't think he's a very good fortnight personally, and his party is a shambles currently.Barnesian said:
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least six contributors who are usually sensible, articulate, and well respected who simply go OTT bananas on the subject of Corbyn. I find it very odd and I'm constantly surprised. I'm not going to link to them but I know who they are and you do too I suspect.Ishmael_Z said:
Really? Who is doing this (with link)? My take on him is that he is a profoundly stupid man of a type very common on the Left, all the way from Scargill and Skinner down to the sort of students who like to go "on protests" generically (i.e. without reference to what the protest is a protest against), of interest only because of the mismatch between his abilities and his job. Not sure what you refer to when you say "leading his party to success."Barnesian said:It is very strange how Corbyn makes people who are normally sane and articulate go quite bananas.
The emotion is so strong that it is clearly not a normal rational evaluation but something quite deep. I suspect it is the fact that he is a clever politician and a strong leader that is leading his party to success that really freaks them out. They desperately thrash around trying to derail him, without success. It must be very frustrating.
Leading his party to success means getting it into power. It's a combination of clever popular policies (unlike the Tories), mobilising a large group of enthusiastic activists (unlike the Tories), maintaining party discipline including firing people who get out of line (unlike Mrs M), and steadfastly shrugging off personal attacks without retaliation.0 -
Yes - there hasn’t been an opportunity for Corbyn to make a clear statement of anti Semitism- - this is his first chance and he may seize it.kle4 said:
Could be a bad move - Corbyn could well show up, condemn anti-semitism, and then some of the people who were angry will persuade themselves the pleasant old man is being attacked for no reason.Scott_P said:0 -
Bothydoethur said:
That's next to leave the cabinet, not next leader!Big_G_NorthWales said:
I keep saying, the next leader will be a femaleydoethur said:
Ladbrokes have him at 5/1 third favourite behind May herself and Boris. Both have had OK weeks so odds will perhaps lengthen a touch.Barnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/977293915454918657
Personally I would have said the value is fourth favourite David Davis at 6/1. I will be very surprised if he is still in post in a year's time. Not only would he be pushing seventy but we will have left the EU and his job will have ended. There seems little hope of a promotion and I doubt if he would accept a lesser post.
I'm also surprised Liam Fox is 10/1. Seriously?0 -
Ho ho ho.TGOHF said:
Yes - there hasn’t been an opportunity for Corbyn to make a clear statement of anti Semitism- - this is his first chance and he may seize it.kle4 said:
Could be a bad move - Corbyn could well show up, condemn anti-semitism, and then some of the people who were angry will persuade themselves the pleasant old man is being attacked for no reason.Scott_P said:0 -
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Sure, they are an uncertain weathervane, particularly for a GE some years ahead. They are important in their own right and also as a base to work on related GE seats.kle4 said:
Which as we know, are not always very indicative even of GEs coming up very shortly afterwards. But Labour should be in for a good night. I'm more interested in your old buddies, the Lid Dems.Foxy said:
I suspect that we will see in the May Local elections.steve_garner said:
Wrong question. The right question is what happens next?Foxy said:
Have I slipped back a year in a timewarp? This sort of thing was being routinely opined in March 2017. What happened next?steve_garner said:
If you say so. Don't think he's a very good fortnight personally, and his party is a shambles currently.Barnesian said:
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least six contributors who are usually sensible, articulate, and well respected who simply go OTT bananas on the subject of Corbyn. I find it very odd and I'm constantly surprised. I'm not going to link to them but I know who they are and you do too I suspect.Ishmael_Z said:
Really? Who is doing this (with link)? My take on him is that he is a profoundly stupid man of a type very common on the Left, all the way from Scargill and Skinner down to the sort of students who like to go "on protests" generically (i.e. without reference to what the protest is a protest against), of interest only because of the mismatch between his abilities and his job. Not sure what you refer to when you say "leading his party to success."Barnesian said:It is very strange how Corbyn makes people who are normally sane and articulate go quite bananas.
The emotion is so strong that it is clearly not a normal rational evaluation but something quite deep. I suspect it is the fact that he is a clever politician and a strong leader that is leading his party to success that really freaks them out. They desperately thrash around trying to derail him, without success. It must be very frustrating.
Leading his party to success means getting it into power. It's a combination of clever popular policies (unlike the Tories), mobilising a large group of enthusiastic activists (unlike the Tories), maintaining party discipline including firing people who get out of line (unlike Mrs M), and steadfastly shrugging off personal attacks without retaliation.
I remain a LD, but a rather sleeping one until Vince goes, and Brexit is out of the way.
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Ah, you ownCharles said:
Strictly real estate, paintings and wine.rcs1000 said:
So, do you prefer Ethereum or are you a Litecoin kind of guy?Charles said:
I don’t do bitcoin!rcs1000 said:
In fiat currencies?Charles said:
75% still in cash (we went all cash in December)Ishmael_Z said:
Brave.Charles said:
FWIW Caz have just deployed 25% on a cash reserve my foundation had into equities...stodge said:Evening all
In truth, something for everyone in the week's local by-election results and little to be gleaned at a national level.
I've never been at a count where the result has been tied - is there a single method to decide used everywhere ? I've heard the drawing of lots or the toss of a coin being used but I suppose it's up to the discretion of the returning officer.
It's a horrible way to lose.
The DJIA has lost in excess of 2,000 points since February 26th when it was 25,709. I make that close to correction territory (10%). The FTSE has lost 870 points since its high in January of 7792.6 so more than 10% given up and the index is where it was in August 2016 so all the "Trump Bump" erased.
Sterling still a few cents below the pre 23/6/16 level but against the Euro still 14 cents below the pre-Referendum numbers.
You know, if she called an election, she could crush the saboteurs.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I hope not but a lot in that article is true - TM is in a strong position in her party at present.kle4 said:Oh dear, are the Tories getting complacent again because of a few decent weeks?
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/strong-and-stable-theresa-mays-tories-are-backing-the-pm-once-again-after-her-russia-performance/
But no, absolutely, no talk of an election please0 -
call me a cynic- but what about Abbott?kle4 said:
Leader sacks subordinate advocating non-party policy?logical_song said:Jeremy Corbyn sacks Labour's Owen Smith over referendum call
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-435213210 -
Well, I would say it's easy to create an opportunity to make a clear statement of such at any time, but nevertheless relying on him to appear to equivocate in such a debate would, I think, be an error. He's occasionally a very savvy operator, and is a professional politician, and could well craft a good statement which will play well in countless shares, no matter if others come back and claim other actions speak against it, truthfully or otherwise.TGOHF said:
Yes - there hasn’t been an opportunity for Corbyn to make a clear statement of anti Semitism- - this is his first chance and he may seize it.kle4 said:
Could be a bad move - Corbyn could well show up, condemn anti-semitism, and then some of the people who were angry will persuade themselves the pleasant old man is being attacked for no reason.Scott_P said:0 -
Stop complaining - do something about itTGOHF said:0 -
My theory is that Mrs May is promoting him to emphasise how good she is by comparison.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is so immatureBarnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/9772939154549186570 -
No, the odds I quoted are not for 'both.' They are for next to leave the cabinet as @Barnesian was complaining he couldn't find them. I think you misunderstood what I was typing as otherwise your comments make no sense.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Bothydoethur said:
That's next to leave the cabinet, not next leader!Big_G_NorthWales said:
I keep saying, the next leader will be a femaleydoethur said:
Ladbrokes have him at 5/1 third favourite behind May herself and Boris. Both have had OK weeks so odds will perhaps lengthen a touch.Barnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/977293915454918657
Personally I would have said the value is fourth favourite David Davis at 6/1. I will be very surprised if he is still in post in a year's time. Not only would he be pushing seventy but we will have left the EU and his job will have ended. There seems little hope of a promotion and I doubt if he would accept a lesser post.
I'm also surprised Liam Fox is 10/1. Seriously?
(They could hardly be for next leader when May is the joint favourite!)0 -
I was merely being cheeky - I'm sure it is about Corbyn's increasing power as to why a former opponent cannot get away with it when others could, but on the face of it publicly going against official policy is reasonable grounds for sacking.Floater said:
call me a cynic- but what about Abbott?kle4 said:
Leader sacks subordinate advocating non-party policy?logical_song said:Jeremy Corbyn sacks Labour's Owen Smith over referendum call
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43521321
I look forward to his explanation of what the difference is - there seemingly being none would require either ignoring the point to keep Abbot, sacking her, or a truly creative response which could turn out to be pretty amusing.
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Because he screwed her in the past, she can screw party policy?Floater said:
call me a cynic- but what about Abbott?kle4 said:
Leader sacks subordinate advocating non-party policy?logical_song said:Jeremy Corbyn sacks Labour's Owen Smith over referendum call
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-435213210 -
He has let her down and is just too immature for his positionrcs1000 said:
My theory is that Mrs May is promoting him to emphasise how good she is by comparison.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is so immatureBarnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/9772939154549186570 -
BJO - showed his views all to clearly last threadsteve_garner said:Dan Jarvis, Owen Smith, Murals, just another happy day in the Labour Party. No doubt BJO will be along soon to explain how marvellous it all is.
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Once again May has shown her lack of competence in promoting him.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He has let her down and is just too immature for his positionrcs1000 said:
My theory is that Mrs May is promoting him to emphasise how good she is by comparison.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is so immatureBarnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/9772939154549186570 -
My apologies - old age advancesydoethur said:
No, the odds I quoted are not for 'both.' They are for next to leave the cabinet as @Barnesian was complaining he couldn't find them. I think you misunderstood what I was typing as otherwise your comments make no sense.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Bothydoethur said:
That's next to leave the cabinet, not next leader!Big_G_NorthWales said:
I keep saying, the next leader will be a femaleydoethur said:
Ladbrokes have him at 5/1 third favourite behind May herself and Boris. Both have had OK weeks so odds will perhaps lengthen a touch.Barnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/977293915454918657
Personally I would have said the value is fourth favourite David Davis at 6/1. I will be very surprised if he is still in post in a year's time. Not only would he be pushing seventy but we will have left the EU and his job will have ended. There seems little hope of a promotion and I doubt if he would accept a lesser post.
I'm also surprised Liam Fox is 10/1. Seriously?
(They could hardly be for next leader when May is the joint favourite!)0 -
Your mate Corbyn exudes competence does he not, as we can see from the state of his party tonight.Foxy said:
Once again May has shown her lack of competence in promoting him.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He has let her down and is just too immature for his positionrcs1000 said:
My theory is that Mrs May is promoting him to emphasise how good she is by comparison.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is so immatureBarnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/9772939154549186570 -
We are all older than we were!Big_G_NorthWales said:
My apologies - old age advancesydoethur said:
No, the odds I quoted are not for 'both.' They are for next to leave the cabinet as @Barnesian was complaining he couldn't find them. I think you misunderstood what I was typing as otherwise your comments make no sense.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Bothydoethur said:
That's next to leave the cabinet, not next leader!Big_G_NorthWales said:
I keep saying, the next leader will be a femaleydoethur said:
Ladbrokes have him at 5/1 third favourite behind May herself and Boris. Both have had OK weeks so odds will perhaps lengthen a touch.Barnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/977293915454918657
Personally I would have said the value is fourth favourite David Davis at 6/1. I will be very surprised if he is still in post in a year's time. Not only would he be pushing seventy but we will have left the EU and his job will have ended. There seems little hope of a promotion and I doubt if he would accept a lesser post.
I'm also surprised Liam Fox is 10/1. Seriously?
(They could hardly be for next leader when May is the joint favourite!)0 -
@ydoethur Thanks for the lead to Ladbrokes. I got a boosted 11/2 on Williamson to be next to leave. It will be embarrassing for May to sack him having so recently promoted him, but I imagine she is under a lot of pressure to do so, including from members of the Chief of Staffs Committee who must cringe with embarrassment at their boss.ydoethur said:
No, the odds I quoted are not for 'both.' They are for next to leave the cabinet as @Barnesian was complaining he couldn't find them. I think you misunderstood what I was typing as otherwise your comments make no sense.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Bothydoethur said:
That's next to leave the cabinet, not next leader!Big_G_NorthWales said:
I keep saying, the next leader will be a femaleydoethur said:
Ladbrokes have him at 5/1 third favourite behind May herself and Boris. Both have had OK weeks so odds will perhaps lengthen a touch.Barnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/977293915454918657
Personally I would have said the value is fourth favourite David Davis at 6/1. I will be very surprised if he is still in post in a year's time. Not only would he be pushing seventy but we will have left the EU and his job will have ended. There seems little hope of a promotion and I doubt if he would accept a lesser post.
I'm also surprised Liam Fox is 10/1. Seriously?
(They could hardly be for next leader when May is the joint favourite!)0 -
Agree,Mercer or mordaunt should have got it.Foxy said:
Once again May has shown her lack of competence in promoting him.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He has let her down and is just too immature for his positionrcs1000 said:
My theory is that Mrs May is promoting him to emphasise how good she is by comparison.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is so immatureBarnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/9772939154549186570 -
Watching our football teams can have that effect !!!Foxy said:
We are all older than we were!Big_G_NorthWales said:
My apologies - old age advancesydoethur said:
No, the odds I quoted are not for 'both.' They are for next to leave the cabinet as @Barnesian was complaining he couldn't find them. I think you misunderstood what I was typing as otherwise your comments make no sense.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Bothydoethur said:
That's next to leave the cabinet, not next leader!Big_G_NorthWales said:
I keep saying, the next leader will be a femaleydoethur said:
Ladbrokes have him at 5/1 third favourite behind May herself and Boris. Both have had OK weeks so odds will perhaps lengthen a touch.Barnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/977293915454918657
Personally I would have said the value is fourth favourite David Davis at 6/1. I will be very surprised if he is still in post in a year's time. Not only would he be pushing seventy but we will have left the EU and his job will have ended. There seems little hope of a promotion and I doubt if he would accept a lesser post.
I'm also surprised Liam Fox is 10/1. Seriously?
(They could hardly be for next leader when May is the joint favourite!)0 -
Realising it usually wasn't worth watching a England football game was when I knew I had truly grown up.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Watching our football teams can have that effect !!!Foxy said:
We are all older than we were!Big_G_NorthWales said:
My apologies - old age advancesydoethur said:
No, the odds I quoted are not for 'both.' They are for next to leave the cabinet as @Barnesian was complaining he couldn't find them. I think you misunderstood what I was typing as otherwise your comments make no sense.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Bothydoethur said:
That's next to leave the cabinet, not next leader!Big_G_NorthWales said:
I keep saying, the next leader will be a femaleydoethur said:
Ladbrokes have him at 5/1 third favourite behind May herself and Boris. Both have had OK weeks so odds will perhaps lengthen a touch.Barnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/977293915454918657
Personally I would have said the value is fourth favourite David Davis at 6/1. I will be very surprised if he is still in post in a year's time. Not only would he be pushing seventy but we will have left the EU and his job will have ended. There seems little hope of a promotion and I doubt if he would accept a lesser post.
I'm also surprised Liam Fox is 10/1. Seriously?
(They could hardly be for next leader when May is the joint favourite!)0 -
Wow, just wowFoxy said:
I dont think he is either Communist or Marxist, or particularly A Russophile.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Corbyn is a Russian loving marxist communist as is most of his office. Do you deny thisFoxy said:
I think that you are certainly over egging Jezzas position, which is slightly different in tone, but actually very little different to the governments. Ludicrous Tory hyperbole is counterproductive in damaging Jezza.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Conservative obsession with a military grade nerve agent used on the streets of Salisbury with the EU 100% backing UK, EU Russian Ambassador recalled, and individual EU countries to announce more measures next weekFoxy said:
Presumably more popular in Worksop and Leek!AndyJS said:Corbyn's Russian response probably costing them the seat in Thurrock.
In Thurrock there was a bigger gain by Lab than Con, so I think Tories obsession with this is rather over egged.
I think your politics are deliberately trying to downplay this outrageous attack on us to deflect from your dear leader, the marxist communist Corbyn with his communist office acting as Russia Today's mouth piece0 -
that wasn't his first response was it - you know the one that had his own benches up in armsFoxy said:
I don't apply such labels to other people. I allow them to self identify rather than be caricatured by their opponents.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Well you are entitled to your opinion but are you saying Milne is notFoxy said:
I dont think he is either Communist or Marxist, or particularly A Russophile.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Corbyn is a Russian loving marxist communist as is most of his office. Do you deny thisFoxy said:
I think that you are certainly over egging Jezzas position, which is slightly different in tone, but actually very little different to the governments. Ludicrous Tory hyperbole is counterproductive in damaging Jezza.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Conservative obsession with a military grade nerve agent used on the streets of Salisbury with the EU 100% backing UK, EU Russian Ambassador recalled, and individual EU countries to announce more measures next weekFoxy said:
Presumably more popular in Worksop and Leek!AndyJS said:Corbyn's Russian response probably costing them the seat in Thurrock.
In Thurrock there was a bigger gain by Lab than Con, so I think Tories obsession with this is rather over egged.
I think your politics are deliberately trying to downplay this outrageous attack on us to deflect from your dear leader, the marxist communist Corbyn with his communist office acting as Russia Today's mouth piece
This is Jezzas response to the Salisbury attack. Not much difference is there?
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/974385316025991168?s=190 -
No worries Big G. After last week I feel like I'm catching up with you!Big_G_NorthWales said:
My apologies - old age advancesydoethur said:
No, the odds I quoted are not for 'both.' They are for next to leave the cabinet as @Barnesian was complaining he couldn't find them. I think you misunderstood what I was typing as otherwise your comments make no sense.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Bothydoethur said:
That's next to leave the cabinet, not next leader!Big_G_NorthWales said:
I keep saying, the next leader will be a femaleydoethur said:
Ladbrokes have him at 5/1 third favourite behind May herself and Boris. Both have had OK weeks so odds will perhaps lengthen a touch.Barnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/977293915454918657
Personally I would have said the value is fourth favourite David Davis at 6/1. I will be very surprised if he is still in post in a year's time. Not only would he be pushing seventy but we will have left the EU and his job will have ended. There seems little hope of a promotion and I doubt if he would accept a lesser post.
I'm also surprised Liam Fox is 10/1. Seriously?
(They could hardly be for next leader when May is the joint favourite!)
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I gave up on England in 1967 - I was referring to Man Utd who I have supported since 1951kle4 said:
Realising it usually wasn't worth watching a England football game was when I knew I had truly grown up.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Watching our football teams can have that effect !!!Foxy said:
We are all older than we were!Big_G_NorthWales said:
My apologies - old age advancesydoethur said:
No, the odds I quoted are not for 'both.' They are for next to leave the cabinet as @Barnesian was complaining he couldn't find them. I think you misunderstood what I was typing as otherwise your comments make no sense.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Bothydoethur said:
That's next to leave the cabinet, not next leader!Big_G_NorthWales said:
I keep saying, the next leader will be a femaleydoethur said:
Ladbrokes have him at 5/1 third favourite behind May herself and Boris. Both have had OK weeks so odds will perhaps lengthen a touch.Barnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/977293915454918657
Personally I would have said the value is fourth favourite David Davis at 6/1. I will be very surprised if he is still in post in a year's time. Not only would he be pushing seventy but we will have left the EU and his job will have ended. There seems little hope of a promotion and I doubt if he would accept a lesser post.
I'm also surprised Liam Fox is 10/1. Seriously?
(They could hardly be for next leader when May is the joint favourite!)0 -
Nude Fred.
Ah, I mean New Thread.0 -
I think that happened to me in South Africa, 2010 was it? That was an terrible tournamentkle4 said:
Realising it usually wasn't worth watching a England football game was when I knew I had truly grown up.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Watching our football teams can have that effect !!!Foxy said:
We are all older than we were!Big_G_NorthWales said:
My apologies - old age advancesydoethur said:
No, the odds I quoted are not for 'both.' They are for next to leave the cabinet as @Barnesian was complaining he couldn't find them. I think you misunderstood what I was typing as otherwise your comments make no sense.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Bothydoethur said:
That's next to leave the cabinet, not next leader!Big_G_NorthWales said:
I keep saying, the next leader will be a femaleydoethur said:
Ladbrokes have him at 5/1 third favourite behind May herself and Boris. Both have had OK weeks so odds will perhaps lengthen a touch.Barnesian said:
He's not going to last long is he? I can't find any odds on next to leave the Cabinet.Theuniondivvie said:The fireplace salesman's kicked off.
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/977293915454918657
Personally I would have said the value is fourth favourite David Davis at 6/1. I will be very surprised if he is still in post in a year's time. Not only would he be pushing seventy but we will have left the EU and his job will have ended. There seems little hope of a promotion and I doubt if he would accept a lesser post.
I'm also surprised Liam Fox is 10/1. Seriously?
(They could hardly be for next leader when May is the joint favourite!)0