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Nicely put - "natural batteries". I'm going to use that one!Ishmael_Z said:
Tide is not waves. Waves are not tide. And it doesn't necessarily make sense to abandon wave power and go direct to the wind (if that is what you are suggesting) because waves capture wind energy in a form which lasts longer than the wind itself - they are natural batteries, in other words, so why not let them provide free battery storage?Scott_P said:
Waves are concentrated wind. Turbines in the windmill poles could be more efficient than the blades themselves.MarqueeMark said:Second highest tidal range in the world top trumps wind though.
I also saw something recently that said a lot of the offshore wind mechanics need replaced already. Very short lifespan.0 -
That's why I wrote waves, and not tidal lagoonsMarqueeMark said:Tidal lagoons are no such thing as "concentrated wind"!!!
I knowIshmael_Z said:Tide is not waves. Waves are not tide.
Waves are concentrated wind. If you can extract the energy from one wave, it exceeds that which can be captured solely from the wind at the same point.0 -
Won't be cheap initially - but they are clearly a great way forward.rcs1000 said:
Solar panels in convenient, tile shaped, sizes: https://www.tesla.com/solarroofSean_F said:Solar panels on houses look hideous.
A decade from now, all new homes will be made with solar roofs.
The primary school next to me has been fitted with conventional solar panels over the past couple of years. They cover near enough the entire roof (on one side of the building) - so it is a substantial array. Whilst I do find the look of conventional panels to be incongruous on many residential properties, using them on public buildings seems far more appropriate - particularly as the scale means a better generation.
One other area where I have seen them used imaginatively is in supermarket carparks in France (and I suspect elsewhere). They provide shade for the cars parked beneath them whilst also generating power.
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Panels usually have 20 year warranties these days.SandyRentool said:
It is a depreciating asset. At the end of 10 years your capital has gone, and you've got some scrap on your roof. You'd be better off investing the money at 1% return and drawing down over 10 years. Anyway that's what I think, but I hope you do well out of the investment.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But as a pensioner my return on capital is the key as it should produce that annual return over the rest of my life. It is index linked and tax freeSandyRentool said:
So if you depreciate your asset at 10% per annum, on balance they are worthless.Big_G_NorthWales said:
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Mine haveNigelb said:
Panels usually have 20 year warranties these days.SandyRentool said:
It is a depreciating asset. At the end of 10 years your capital has gone, and you've got some scrap on your roof. You'd be better off investing the money at 1% return and drawing down over 10 years. Anyway that's what I think, but I hope you do well out of the investment.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But as a pensioner my return on capital is the key as it should produce that annual return over the rest of my life. It is index linked and tax freeSandyRentool said:
So if you depreciate your asset at 10% per annum, on balance they are worthless.Big_G_NorthWales said:0 -
The roof of the weighing room at Cheltenham is also covered in panels0
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I am very pro renewables, we have solar panels on our roof, but to cover fields with them is atrocious - should never be allowed planning permission. If left unchecked our 'green and pleasant' land will turn into a grey and plastic one. When did the Conservatives lose their commitment to conserve?RobD said:
A solar farm rIgh behind my parents garden means they won’t be getting housing there in the foreseeable future. Far less intrusive in terms of the view.Ishmael_Z said:
Not as bad as they look on what, in their absence, would be good green south-facing pasture.Sean_F said:Solar panels on houses look hideous.
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'scrap on your roof' that's still contributing £700 pa tax free. That's the kind of scrap I like!SandyRentool said:
It is a depreciating asset. At the end of 10 years your capital has gone, and you've got some scrap on your roof. You'd be better off investing the money at 1% return and drawing down over 10 years. Anyway that's what I think, but I hope you do well out of the investment.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But as a pensioner my return on capital is the key as it should produce that annual return over the rest of my life. It is index linked and tax freeSandyRentool said:
So if you depreciate your asset at 10% per annum, on balance they are worthless.Big_G_NorthWales said:
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It depends on the eye of the beholder, surely? They look fine to me.Sean_F said:Solar panels on houses look hideous.
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Won't the panels still be generating electricity in year 11?SandyRentool said:
So if you depreciate your asset at 10% per annum, on balance they are worthless.Big_G_NorthWales said:0 -
I used to describe oli and gas as "stored solar"MarqueeMark said:
Nicely put - "natural batteries". I'm going to use that one!Ishmael_Z said:
Tide is not waves. Waves are not tide. And it doesn't necessarily make sense to abandon wave power and go direct to the wind (if that is what you are suggesting) because waves capture wind energy in a form which lasts longer than the wind itself - they are natural batteries, in other words, so why not let them provide free battery storage?Scott_P said:
Waves are concentrated wind. Turbines in the windmill poles could be more efficient than the blades themselves.MarqueeMark said:Second highest tidal range in the world top trumps wind though.
I also saw something recently that said a lot of the offshore wind mechanics need replaced already. Very short lifespan.0 -
http://www.viridiansolar.co.uk/index.htmlBenpointer said:
It depends on the eye of the beholder, surely? They look fine to me.Sean_F said:Solar panels on houses look hideous.
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Isn't nuclear fusion going to solve all our energy problems?0
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Left-winger Owen Jones, attacked BBC Two programme for using 'altered image'
Show pictured Corbyn against a 'Kremlin skyline, dressed up as a Soviet stooge'
But Newsnight acting editor Jess Brammar denied the hat had been altered
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5513697/BBC-denies-photoshopping-Corbyn-make-look-Russian.html
Owen should thank god they didn't pick a "Chav" Jezza picture.
I notice that the Jezza for PM Facebook account is busy getting very angry that May fist bumped a member of the public, when the member of the public put their fist out i.e. indicating they would like to do so.0 -
On more modern properties, perhaps. But on top of a Victorian Town house (of which there are many near me in Oxford), they do look very out of place. It is all about context, I guessBenpointer said:
It depends on the eye of the beholder, surely? They look fine to me.Sean_F said:Solar panels on houses look hideous.
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UK electricity use during the summer is circa 75% of winter. Use during the summer peaks (plateaus) during the period 08:00 - 17:00, i.e. when useful solar is produced.Philip_Thompson said:
Its not useless its just not especially useful.Ishmael_Z said:
Spiking in winter, doesn't mean absent in summer. I can't immediately see any figures on the internet, but you wash yourself, clothes and dishes, hoover, watch tv, trickle charge your car and cook food all year round. In winter you heat your house, probably with oil or gas; in summer you probably don't air condition, but if you do you use electricity. And you are not generating no electricity in winter, just less. There is no basis for suggesting that solar either must do everything all year round, or is useless.Philip_Thompson said:Demand for the grid would still spike in the winter and all those houses will be needing their energy which has to come from somewhere and it won't be the solar.
All of those again are things that you do when you are at home. Which is more likely to be in the evening or in the dark when again grid demand is at its lowest and solar is less productive or unproductive. Without battery storage when the sun shines on your home in the daytime if you're out and not using much electricity then you either waste the electricity generated or need to get it into the grid which isn't especially economical either.0 -
He's truly off his rocker isn't he?calum said:0 -
This sort of talk is not helpful!calum said:0 -
He said: "I think they’re the stick in the muds in this and have come up with a solution that is wholly impossible for the United Kingdom to accept, that we should take Northern Ireland out of the United Kingdom.calum said:
"Why don’t we suggest to them that the Republic of Ireland comes out of the single market and customs union and accepts our regulations? It’s an equally logical suggestion."0 -
Fair point.oxfordsimon said:
On more modern properties, perhaps. But on top of a Victorian Town house (of which there are many near me in Oxford), they do look very out of place. It is all about context, I guessBenpointer said:
It depends on the eye of the beholder, surely? They look fine to me.Sean_F said:Solar panels on houses look hideous.
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tlg86 said:
Isn't nuclear fusion going to solve all our energy problems?
Indirectly, yes. We already have a very large fusion reactor that runs continuously, at zero cost. It's 150 million km away but provides plenty of energy, even at that distance. 0 -
Perhaps the most important reason for expanding wind, solar, biomass, fracking, and indeed nuclear, is to make us independent of Russia, and to diminish further their economic power. Hit the kleptocrats where it hurts..in the pocketBenpointer said:
UK electricity use during the summer is circa 75% of winter. Use during the summer peaks (plateaus) during the period 08:00 - 17:00, i.e. when useful solar is produced.Philip_Thompson said:
Its not useless its just not especially useful.Ishmael_Z said:
Spiking in winter, doesn't mean absent in summer. I can't immediately see any figures on the internet, but you wash yourself, clothes and dishes, hoover, watch tv, trickle charge your car and cook food all year round. In winter you heat your house, probably with oil or gas; in summer you probably don't air condition, but if you do you use electricity. And you are not generating no electricity in winter, just less. There is no basis for suggesting that solar either must do everything all year round, or is useless.Philip_Thompson said:Demand for the grid would still spike in the winter and all those houses will be needing their energy which has to come from somewhere and it won't be the solar.
All of those again are things that you do when you are at home. Which is more likely to be in the evening or in the dark when again grid demand is at its lowest and solar is less productive or unproductive. Without battery storage when the sun shines on your home in the daytime if you're out and not using much electricity then you either waste the electricity generated or need to get it into the grid which isn't especially economical either.0 -
Boost for Australian PM Malcolm Turnbull in today's South Australian state elections as his Liberal National Coalition reaches enough seats for a majority for the first time in 16 years with 60% of the vote counted
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-17/liberals-to-form-majority-government-in-sa,-abc-predicts/95592460 -
The problem with that 'witty' turning of the tables is that it suggests that this proposition is something that the etiolated Etonian just made up for the purposes of smartarsery, whereas it's something that various goons have been seriously suggesting since before Brexit.tlg86 said:
He said: "I think they’re the stick in the muds in this and have come up with a solution that is wholly impossible for the United Kingdom to accept, that we should take Northern Ireland out of the United Kingdom.calum said:
"Why don’t we suggest to them that the Republic of Ireland comes out of the single market and customs union and accepts our regulations? It’s an equally logical suggestion."0 -
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
Right wing, Beeb-bashing loons are now learning how they sound to normal people.0 -
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https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/975067542912987136Floater said:what on earth is hat gate?
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I think it is Owen Jones complaining that Newsnight made Corbyn look too much like a Russian stooge by showing an image of him wearing a hatFloater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
Right wing, Beeb-bashing loons are now learning how they sound to normal people.0 -
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https://twitter.com/TomSpeed420/status/974547624731729925Floater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
Right wing, Beeb-bashing loons are now learning how they sound to normal people.0 -
Yes it was the hat, not the repeated parroting of Russian talking points.oxfordsimon said:
I think it is Owen Jones complaining that Newsnight made Corbyn look too much like a Russian stooge by showing an image of him wearing a hatFloater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
Right wing, Beeb-bashing loons are now learning how they sound to normal people.0 -
Only the morning star will be allowed in corbyistan0
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Perish the thought that a man who spent a holiday touring East Germany with Diane Abbott might have any interest in or sympathies for the former Soviet bloc....glw said:
Yes it was the hat, not the repeated parroting of Russian talking points.oxfordsimon said:
I think it is Owen Jones complaining that Newsnight made Corbyn look too much like a Russian stooge by showing an image of him wearing a hatFloater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
Right wing, Beeb-bashing loons are now learning how they sound to normal people.0 -
Never mind that dear old Seumas is a massive fan of the genocidal maniac Stalin.oxfordsimon said:
Perish the thought that a man who spent a holiday touring East Germany with Diane Abbott might have any interest in or sympathies for the former Soviet bloc....
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Thing is, as with the tory attack video of GE17, it makes him look fecking cool. Put it on a t shirt and you'd sell 100000s of them to the sort of students who have Che posters on the wall.0
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What a difference a year makes, in sport and politics.Scott_P said:0 -
One of the few good things about students is that eventually they do grow up.Ishmael_Z said:Thing is, as with the tory attack video of GE17, it makes him look fecking cool. Put it on a t shirt and you'd sell 100000s of them to the sort of students who have Che posters on the wall.
Unlike Corbyn who seems to have stopped evolving more than 40 years ago0 -
The conspiracy theories around using what is clearly just a soft-focused image of their leaderIshmael_Z said:Thing is, as with the tory attack video of GE17, it makes him look fecking cool. Put it on a t shirt and you'd sell 100000s of them to the sort of students who have Che posters on the wall.
wearing a hat that he actually wore in that photo are just hilarious.
Suggests to me that the cultists have realised that this is the week that Britain has seen through Corbz...0 -
Nothing like the people's army of Corbynania, but given people have been expecting below 100k I guess it's good?Scott_P said:0 -
Who would have thought that a party on 42%ish of the vote might actually attract more members....Scott_P said:0 -
You wishMortimer said:
The conspiracy theories around using what is clearly just a soft-focused image of their leaderIshmael_Z said:Thing is, as with the tory attack video of GE17, it makes him look fecking cool. Put it on a t shirt and you'd sell 100000s of them to the sort of students who have Che posters on the wall.
wearing a hat that he actually wore in that photo are just hilarious.
Suggests to me that the cultists have realised that this is the week that Britain has seen through Corbz...
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Surely not - on what basis would they be angry? Genuinely puzzled here.FrancisUrquhart said:
I notice that the Jezza for PM Facebook account is busy getting very angry that May fist bumped a member of the public, when the member of the public put their fist out i.e. indicating they would like to do so.0 -
Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.Mortimer said:
The conspiracy theories around using what is clearly just a soft-focused image of their leaderIshmael_Z said:Thing is, as with the tory attack video of GE17, it makes him look fecking cool. Put it on a t shirt and you'd sell 100000s of them to the sort of students who have Che posters on the wall.
wearing a hat that he actually wore in that photo are just hilarious.
Suggests to me that the cultists have realised that this is the week that Britain has seen through Corbz...0 -
It was quite incredible that Abbott told journos to f##k off when asked about Russia...she isn't some z-list celeb being doorstepped outside a nightclub at 3am, she is a leading politician and is expected to respond to major events.oxfordsimon said:
Perish the thought that a man who spent a holiday touring East Germany with Diane Abbott might have any interest in or sympathies for the former Soviet bloc....glw said:
Yes it was the hat, not the repeated parroting of Russian talking points.oxfordsimon said:
I think it is Owen Jones complaining that Newsnight made Corbyn look too much like a Russian stooge by showing an image of him wearing a hatFloater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
Right wing, Beeb-bashing loons are now learning how they sound to normal people.0 -
They are members of Jezza for PM - they clearly have no rational reasoning skills.kle4 said:
Surely not - on what basis would they be angry? Genuinely puzzled here.FrancisUrquhart said:
I notice that the Jezza for PM Facebook account is busy getting very angry that May fist bumped a member of the public, when the member of the public put their fist out i.e. indicating they would like to do so.0 -
Apparently she isn't taking this seriously enough. The cult are f##king bonkers.kle4 said:
Surely not - on what basis would they be angry? Genuinely puzzled here.FrancisUrquhart said:
I notice that the Jezza for PM Facebook account is busy getting very angry that May fist bumped a member of the public, when the member of the public put their fist out i.e. indicating they would like to do so.
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That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
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In all but the most extreme of situations I would like to think I can see the reasoning behind different points of view, on the basis that few people are actually downright irrational. I see FU shows it is because they don't think she is taking things seriously, which I suppose is a reason, but even charitably not a convincing one, or even one I think many ardent opponents of the Tories could genuinely hold, as it is far too silly.oxfordsimon said:
They are members of Jezza for PM - they clearly have no rational reasoning skills.kle4 said:
Surely not - on what basis would they be angry? Genuinely puzzled here.FrancisUrquhart said:
I notice that the Jezza for PM Facebook account is busy getting very angry that May fist bumped a member of the public, when the member of the public put their fist out i.e. indicating they would like to do so.0 -
Boris gone on full attack against Putin tonight and singling out Corbyn as the only person in the HOC aiding the Russian propagangda. It is commonly accepted he has taken a hit.Benpointer said:
You wishMortimer said:
The conspiracy theories around using what is clearly just a soft-focused image of their leaderIshmael_Z said:Thing is, as with the tory attack video of GE17, it makes him look fecking cool. Put it on a t shirt and you'd sell 100000s of them to the sort of students who have Che posters on the wall.
wearing a hat that he actually wore in that photo are just hilarious.
Suggests to me that the cultists have realised that this is the week that Britain has seen through Corbz...
The next weeks and months will be interesting but who would have thought just a few weeks ago that Theresa May is now in a stronger place than ever, people giving her flowers and applause, and photos in the papers of her holding the new born of a couple who have just bought their first home aided by the governments scheme.
Events dear boy, events0 -
These psychos genuinely think the BBC and Russia Today are equivalent. God forbid they ever get in charge of the country.Ishmael_Z said:
https://twitter.com/TomSpeed420/status/974547624731729925Floater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
Right wing, Beeb-bashing loons are now learning how they sound to normal people.0 -
They must think she was simply punching a member of the public.... Bastard Tories.kle4 said:
Surely not - on what basis would they be angry? Genuinely puzzled here.FrancisUrquhart said:
I notice that the Jezza for PM Facebook account is busy getting very angry that May fist bumped a member of the public, when the member of the public put their fist out i.e. indicating they would like to do so.
(Of course, when John Prescott actually DID punch a member of the public, that was like, so cool....)0 -
And been completely anonymous throughout this crisis and she is shadow home secretary last time I lookedFrancisUrquhart said:
It was quite incredible that Abbott told journos to f##k off when asked about Russia...she isn't some z-list celeb being doorstepped outside a nightclub at 3am, she is a leading politician and is expected to respond to major events.oxfordsimon said:
Perish the thought that a man who spent a holiday touring East Germany with Diane Abbott might have any interest in or sympathies for the former Soviet bloc....glw said:
Yes it was the hat, not the repeated parroting of Russian talking points.oxfordsimon said:
I think it is Owen Jones complaining that Newsnight made Corbyn look too much like a Russian stooge by showing an image of him wearing a hatFloater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
Right wing, Beeb-bashing loons are now learning how they sound to normal people.
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There is always going to be a market for taking a contrary view, particularly when people deeply dislike government in general (and in some cases this government particularly). And as the compliance of Labour MPs since the GE shows, I think, most internal opponents have no issue anymore (or at least none they can muster up support for) for his general performance or policies, even if they don't like all parts of all of them. Foreign affairs might restrict his support a bit more to the core, plus some contrarians (even though we're told Corbyn's opposition accept the government view), but is surely fleeting in its impact, he won't be 'seen through' as a result.FrancisUrquhart said:
Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.Mortimer said:
The conspiracy theories around using what is clearly just a soft-focused image of their leaderIshmael_Z said:Thing is, as with the tory attack video of GE17, it makes him look fecking cool. Put it on a t shirt and you'd sell 100000s of them to the sort of students who have Che posters on the wall.
wearing a hat that he actually wore in that photo are just hilarious.
Suggests to me that the cultists have realised that this is the week that Britain has seen through Corbz...0 -
I've given up trying to understand online Trump fans. They are either nuts, trolls, or Russians. The chickens are coming home to roost, and yet Trump fans seem to think Trump has played a blinder in recent weeks.kle4 said:In all but the most extreme of situations I would like to think I can see the reasoning behind different points of view, on the basis that few people are actually downright irrational.
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I like the design - sleek, and simple.Kyle_Knox said:Hmm. It would be really interesting to analyze how the local elections of various boroughs performed over the decades. I always look at the Wikipedias National Electoral Calendar and, equally interestingly, Local Electoral Calendar and I have noticed that with the former type of elections, the information tends to be significantly more limited and erratic. For instance, no information about many of the candidates; no information about the political climate, no nothing. Having this type of information would make it possible for research and analyze how moods in the national politics affect moods in local scene, especially in regards of safe seats.
Furthermore, what will also be interesting to see how the voting patterns change with the changing ethnicity of the borough. It seems to be conventional wisdom that the more immigrants there are in a borough, the better Labour performs.
But what about the Far-Right? Do they tend to perform better as well (relatively speaking)? That is an interesting question indeed.
P. S., I am a new blogger and I blog about Politics, Economics and Society. I would greatly appreciate if you checked out my blog: http://www.kyleknox.co.uk0 -
Boris Johnson is a thoroughly loose cannon. Nobody knows whether he is speaking on behalf of the Government,on behalf of himself (with a seriously thought-out position) or just making things up.Big_G_NorthWales said:Boris gone on full attack against Putin tonight and singling out Corbyn as the only person in the HOC aiding the Russian propagangda. It is commonly accepted he has taken a hit.
The next weeks and months will be interesting but who would have thought just a few weeks ago that Theresa May is now in a stronger place than ever, people giving her flowers and applause, and photos in the papers of her holding the new born of a couple who have just bought their first home aided by the governments scheme.
He is a seriously liabilty to the country, The PB Tories ought to recognise that he is a liability to the Conservative Party as well.0 -
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
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Busy working on that plan for 250k extra police at £1 a go...Big_G_NorthWales said:
And been completely anonymous throughout this crisis and she is shadow home secretary last time I lookedFrancisUrquhart said:
It was quite incredible that Abbott told journos to f##k off when asked about Russia...she isn't some z-list celeb being doorstepped outside a nightclub at 3am, she is a leading politician and is expected to respond to major events.oxfordsimon said:
Perish the thought that a man who spent a holiday touring East Germany with Diane Abbott might have any interest in or sympathies for the former Soviet bloc....glw said:
Yes it was the hat, not the repeated parroting of Russian talking points.oxfordsimon said:
I think it is Owen Jones complaining that Newsnight made Corbyn look too much like a Russian stooge by showing an image of him wearing a hatFloater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
Right wing, Beeb-bashing loons are now learning how they sound to normal people.0 -
Your mate Murray just been given 15 mins airtime on 5 Live. Sounded very rationalFrancisUrquhart said:
Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.Mortimer said:
The conspiracy theories around using what is clearly just a soft-focused image of their leaderIshmael_Z said:Thing is, as with the tory attack video of GE17, it makes him look fecking cool. Put it on a t shirt and you'd sell 100000s of them to the sort of students who have Che posters on the wall.
wearing a hat that he actually wore in that photo are just hilarious.
Suggests to me that the cultists have realised that this is the week that Britain has seen through Corbz...0 -
Big_G_NorthWales said:
Boris gone on full attack against Putin tonight and singling out Corbyn as the only person in the HOC aiding the Russian propagangda. It is commonly accepted he has taken a hit.Benpointer said:
You wishMortimer said:
The conspiracy theories around using what is clearly just a soft-focused image of their leaderIshmael_Z said:Thing is, as with the tory attack video of GE17, it makes him look fecking cool. Put it on a t shirt and you'd sell 100000s of them to the sort of students who have Che posters on the wall.
wearing a hat that he actually wore in that photo are just hilarious.
Suggests to me that the cultists have realised that this is the week that Britain has seen through Corbz...
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Yes, it would seem so. That there's been back and forth on how his view didn't differ from the government (thus making the attacks on him silly since his statement was apparently so similar to the governments) to that his view does differ (thus showing his purportedly more grown up approach) demonstrates, I think, that there was clearly a perception issue his spinners decided needed to be addressed. But then he always had weaknesses in foreign affairs not entirely countered by being able to say 'I got Iraq right', and it was when full throated attacks were made that they seemed to lose impact, or not overcome his appeal elsewhere (or dislike of the Tories elsewhere).0 -
Sounding and being are two very different thingsbigjohnowls said:
Your mate Murray just been given 15 mins airtime on 5 Live. Sounded very rationalFrancisUrquhart said:
Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.Mortimer said:
The conspiracy theories around using what is clearly just a soft-focused image of their leaderIshmael_Z said:Thing is, as with the tory attack video of GE17, it makes him look fecking cool. Put it on a t shirt and you'd sell 100000s of them to the sort of students who have Che posters on the wall.
wearing a hat that he actually wore in that photo are just hilarious.
Suggests to me that the cultists have realised that this is the week that Britain has seen through Corbz...0 -
They had another bloke on who more or less agreed with him too. It wasn't meoxfordsimon said:
Sounding and being are two very different thingsbigjohnowls said:
Your mate Murray just been given 15 mins airtime on 5 Live. Sounded very rationalFrancisUrquhart said:
Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.Mortimer said:
The conspiracy theories around using what is clearly just a soft-focused image of their leaderIshmael_Z said:Thing is, as with the tory attack video of GE17, it makes him look fecking cool. Put it on a t shirt and you'd sell 100000s of them to the sort of students who have Che posters on the wall.
wearing a hat that he actually wore in that photo are just hilarious.
Suggests to me that the cultists have realised that this is the week that Britain has seen through Corbz...0 -
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THe same man who claimed russia had nothing to do with the hacking of Clinton’s emails....bigjohnowls said:
Your mate Murray just been given 15 mins airtime on 5 Live. Sounded very rationalFrancisUrquhart said:
Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.Mortimer said:
The conspiracy theories around using what is clearly just a soft-focused image of their leaderIshmael_Z said:Thing is, as with the tory attack video of GE17, it makes him look fecking cool. Put it on a t shirt and you'd sell 100000s of them to the sort of students who have Che posters on the wall.
wearing a hat that he actually wore in that photo are just hilarious.
Suggests to me that the cultists have realised that this is the week that Britain has seen through Corbz...
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I bet you thought those who advocated Iraq had no WMDs were nutters though at the time of Blair's illegal war.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
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If only our defence secretary had taken a leaf from the Abbott playbook.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And been completely anonymous throughout this crisis and she is shadow home secretary last time I lookedFrancisUrquhart said:
It was quite incredible that Abbott told journos to f##k off when asked about Russia...she isn't some z-list celeb being doorstepped outside a nightclub at 3am, she is a leading politician and is expected to respond to major events.oxfordsimon said:
Perish the thought that a man who spent a holiday touring East Germany with Diane Abbott might have any interest in or sympathies for the former Soviet bloc....glw said:
Yes it was the hat, not the repeated parroting of Russian talking points.oxfordsimon said:
I think it is Owen Jones complaining that Newsnight made Corbyn look too much like a Russian stooge by showing an image of him wearing a hatFloater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
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What is the point of having two people on who agree on point under discussion? It doesn't make for a good debate - unless, of course, you are trying to promote a specific agenda. And the BBC would never do that...bigjohnowls said:
They had another bloke on who more or less agreed with him too. It wasn't meoxfordsimon said:
Sounding and being are two very different thingsbigjohnowls said:
Your mate Murray just been given 15 mins airtime on 5 Live. Sounded very rationalFrancisUrquhart said:
Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.Mortimer said:
The conspiracy theories around using what is clearly just a soft-focused image of their leaderIshmael_Z said:Thing is, as with the tory attack video of GE17, it makes him look fecking cool. Put it on a t shirt and you'd sell 100000s of them to the sort of students who have Che posters on the wall.
wearing a hat that he actually wore in that photo are just hilarious.
Suggests to me that the cultists have realised that this is the week that Britain has seen through Corbz...0 -
Total false equivalence...as we are talking about hard science. for the record I was against the Iraq war.bigjohnowls said:
I bet you thought those who advocated Iraq had no WMDs were nutters though at the time of Blair's illegal war.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
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He is young, callow and learning his trade (and silly) - Abbott is not and should have been on the media in her positionJohn_M said:
If only our defence secretary had taken a leaf from the Abbott playbook.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And been completely anonymous throughout this crisis and she is shadow home secretary last time I lookedFrancisUrquhart said:
It was quite incredible that Abbott told journos to f##k off when asked about Russia...she isn't some z-list celeb being doorstepped outside a nightclub at 3am, she is a leading politician and is expected to respond to major events.oxfordsimon said:
Perish the thought that a man who spent a holiday touring East Germany with Diane Abbott might have any interest in or sympathies for the former Soviet bloc....glw said:
Yes it was the hat, not the repeated parroting of Russian talking points.oxfordsimon said:
I think it is Owen Jones complaining that Newsnight made Corbyn look too much like a Russian stooge by showing an image of him wearing a hatFloater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
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But how did you view people who thought Iraq had no WMD??FrancisUrquhart said:
Total false equivalence...as we are talking about hard science. for the record I was against the Iraq war.bigjohnowls said:
I bet you thought those who advocated Iraq had no WMDs were nutters though at the time of Blair's illegal war.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
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"50 million Facebook profiles harvested for Cambridge Analytica in major data breach
Whistleblower describes how firm linked to former Trump adviser Steve Bannon compiled user data to target American voters
How Cambridge Analytica’s algorithms turned ‘likes’ into a political tool"
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/cambridge-analytica-facebook-influence-us-election0 -
We are arguing about if the uk top scientists (and the fact the creator of this nerve agent is now American citizen and can help) could detect this nerve agent from provided samples . If you believe this is false you are beyond help.bigjohnowls said:
But how did you view people who thought Iraq had no WMD??FrancisUrquhart said:
Total false equivalence...as we are talking about hard science. for the record I was against the Iraq war.bigjohnowls said:
I bet you thought those who advocated Iraq had no WMDs were nutters though at the time of Blair's illegal war.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
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Anyone got any notionals for Birmingham?0
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Bit different this time. A chemical attack has taken place and Porton Down identify it as a military grade nerve gas only produced by Russia.bigjohnowls said:
I bet you thought those who advocated Iraq had no WMDs were nutters though at the time of Blair's illegal war.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
The other reported act is that the National Security Advisors did not give Corbyn access to the full detail given to Theresa May as he is seen as a risk to National security.
As far as Boris is concerned I think he is acting with TM's authority as they both must know the details of the nerve agent origin-1 -
oh - that is too funny for wordsIshmael_Z said:
https://twitter.com/TomSpeed420/status/974547624731729925Floater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
Right wing, Beeb-bashing loons are now learning how they sound to normal people.
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FU what hard science. Why does the Government keep using the same phrase "of the type developed in Russia" even in the response to Murray on 5 live saying that's all they can say they issued a response using the exact same phrase. This Murray guy could be a nutter as you say but Why don't they say it was made in or sent by or any other phrase??? It makes him look plausible.0
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Unfortunately for the Russians state-of-the-art chemical forensics can identify in some cases right down to the production batch, never mind the precursors, processes, and plant. I suspect the UK has quitely put a lot of effort into such a capability since the Litvinenko murder.bigjohnowls said:
I bet you thought those who advocated Iraq had no WMDs were nutters though at the time of Blair's illegal war.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
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Of the type developed in Russiaglw said:
Unfortunately for the Russians state-of-the-art chemical forensics can identify in some cases right down to the production batch, never mind the precursors, processes, and plant. I suspect the UK has quitely put a lot of effort into such a capability since the Litvinenko murder.bigjohnowls said:
I bet you thought those who advocated Iraq had no WMDs were nutters though at the time of Blair's illegal war.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
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I think May is having a good week because her stock in trade of sober statements is what is seen to be needed, rather than the flashier talents needed in elections. Also, the Tories are taking a breather from knifing each other in public. But people who like Corbyn aren't greatly deterred by another round of red scare allegations, as these figures show.saddo said:
Still pretty high numbers for Agent Cob given his public pro Russian positionmarke09 said:For the first time since the general election May’s net approval rating (-9%) is better than Corbyn’s (-10%).
More than two-fifths of voters (43%) say May has the best interests of the country at heart compared with 39% who say Corbyn has. Thirty-two percent say the prime minister is able to stand up for Britain’s interests against 28% who believe Corbyn is.0 -
seriously? She did that?FrancisUrquhart said:
It was quite incredible that Abbott told journos to f##k off when asked about Russia...she isn't some z-list celeb being doorstepped outside a nightclub at 3am, she is a leading politician and is expected to respond to major events.oxfordsimon said:
Perish the thought that a man who spent a holiday touring East Germany with Diane Abbott might have any interest in or sympathies for the former Soviet bloc....glw said:
Yes it was the hat, not the repeated parroting of Russian talking points.oxfordsimon said:
I think it is Owen Jones complaining that Newsnight made Corbyn look too much like a Russian stooge by showing an image of him wearing a hatFloater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
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Of the type developed in RussiaBig_G_NorthWales said:
Bit different this time. A chemical attack has taken place and Porton Down identify it as a military grade nerve gas only produced by Russia.bigjohnowls said:
I bet you thought those who advocated Iraq had no WMDs were nutters though at the time of Blair's illegal war.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
The other reported act is that the National Security Advisors did not give Corbyn access to the full detail given to Theresa May as he is seen as a risk to National security.
As far as Boris is concerned I think he is acting with TM's authority as they both must know the details of the nerve agent origin
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Yes. It was on Thursday. The journo tweeted it out and it was posted on here.Floater said:
seriously? She did that?FrancisUrquhart said:
It was quite incredible that Abbott told journos to f##k off when asked about Russia...she isn't some z-list celeb being doorstepped outside a nightclub at 3am, she is a leading politician and is expected to respond to major events.oxfordsimon said:
Perish the thought that a man who spent a holiday touring East Germany with Diane Abbott might have any interest in or sympathies for the former Soviet bloc....glw said:
Yes it was the hat, not the repeated parroting of Russian talking points.oxfordsimon said:
I think it is Owen Jones complaining that Newsnight made Corbyn look too much like a Russian stooge by showing an image of him wearing a hatFloater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
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You should add prison planet to list of alternative news websites you visit. You will like it over there.bigjohnowls said:
Of the type developed in RussiaBig_G_NorthWales said:
Bit different this time. A chemical attack has taken place and Porton Down identify it as a military grade nerve gas only produced by Russia.bigjohnowls said:
I bet you thought those who advocated Iraq had no WMDs were nutters though at the time of Blair's illegal war.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
The other reported act is that the National Security Advisors did not give Corbyn access to the full detail given to Theresa May as he is seen as a risk to National security.
As far as Boris is concerned I think he is acting with TM's authority as they both must know the details of the nerve agent origin0 -
I believed the lack of evidence of WMD supported Iraq not having them. It's ambivalence on whether they did was to aimed at suggesting to Iran that they might still have them.bigjohnowls said:
But how did you view people who thought Iraq had no WMD??FrancisUrquhart said:
Total false equivalence...as we are talking about hard science. for the record I was against the Iraq war.bigjohnowls said:
I bet you thought those who advocated Iraq had no WMDs were nutters though at the time of Blair's illegal war.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
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1. We don't want the Russians to know our forensic capabilities. 2. We may well have an intelligence source that needs to be protected. e.g. Letting us know what goes into the plant, and where it was sourced.bigjohnowls said:Why don't they say it was made in or sent by or any other phrase??? It makes him look plausible.
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To be honest there does seem to be an air of panic around the Corbynista'sFloater said:
oh - that is too funny for wordsIshmael_Z said:
https://twitter.com/TomSpeed420/status/974547624731729925Floater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
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We follow local elections very closely at the VoteUK discussion forum. New members are always welcome to join.Kyle_Knox said:Hmm. It would be really interesting to analyze how the local elections of various boroughs performed over the decades. I always look at the Wikipedias National Electoral Calendar and, equally interestingly, Local Electoral Calendar and I have noticed that with the former type of elections, the information tends to be significantly more limited and erratic. For instance, no information about many of the candidates; no information about the political climate, no nothing. Having this type of information would make it possible for research and analyze how moods in the national politics affect moods in local scene, especially in regards of safe seats.
Furthermore, what will also be interesting to see how the voting patterns change with the changing ethnicity of the borough. It seems to be conventional wisdom that the more immigrants there are in a borough, the better Labour performs.
But what about the Far-Right? Do they tend to perform better as well (relatively speaking)? That is an interesting question indeed.
P. S., I am a new blogger and I blog about Politics, Economics and Society. I would greatly appreciate if you checked out my blog: http://www.kyleknox.co.uk
http://www.vote-2012.proboards.com
The far-right haven't contested any local by-elections for a long time, and hardly contest any seats at the May elections. At the 2017 general election there were only 8 BNP candidates.0 -
Seriously can anyone find a Government quote that says anything more than of a type developed in Russia.
I drink vodka of a type developed in Russia (made in Warrington)0 -
I'm not sure she answered - the Chair of the meeting said it wasn't appropriate for Abbot to answer any questions....Floater said:
seriously? She did that?FrancisUrquhart said:
It was quite incredible that Abbott told journos to f##k off when asked about Russia...she isn't some z-list celeb being doorstepped outside a nightclub at 3am, she is a leading politician and is expected to respond to major events.oxfordsimon said:
Perish the thought that a man who spent a holiday touring East Germany with Diane Abbott might have any interest in or sympathies for the former Soviet bloc....glw said:
Yes it was the hat, not the repeated parroting of Russian talking points.oxfordsimon said:
I think it is Owen Jones complaining that Newsnight made Corbyn look too much like a Russian stooge by showing an image of him wearing a hatFloater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
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....because she knows fuck all about anything.0 -
There was a BNP councillor in Leics about a decade ago, but more recently only Kippers, and they look to be near extinct after May.AndyJS said:
We follow local elections very closely at the VoteUK discussion forum. New members are always welcome to join.Kyle_Knox said:Hmm. It would be really interesting to analyze how the local elections of various boroughs performed over the decades. I always look at the Wikipedias National Electoral Calendar and, equally interestingly, Local Electoral Calendar and I have noticed that with the former type of elections, the information tends to be significantly more limited and erratic. For instance, no information about many of the candidates; no information about the political climate, no nothing. Having this type of information would make it possible for research and analyze how moods in the national politics affect moods in local scene, especially in regards of safe seats.
Furthermore, what will also be interesting to see how the voting patterns change with the changing ethnicity of the borough. It seems to be conventional wisdom that the more immigrants there are in a borough, the better Labour performs.
But what about the Far-Right? Do they tend to perform better as well (relatively speaking)? That is an interesting question indeed.
P. S., I am a new blogger and I blog about Politics, Economics and Society. I would greatly appreciate if you checked out my blog: http://www.kyleknox.co.uk
http://www.vote-2012.proboards.com
The far-right haven't contested any local by-elections for a long time, and hardly contest any seats at the May elections. At the 2017 general election there were only 8 BNP candidates.0 -
Don't be so inane.bigjohnowls said:Seriously can anyone find a Government quote that says anything more than of a type developed in Russia.
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This is desperate stuff by Corbyn's supporters. He called it wrong, has been found out, and ironically strengthened Theresa May.bigjohnowls said:
Of the type developed in RussiaBig_G_NorthWales said:
Bit different this time. A chemical attack has taken place and Porton Down identify it as a military grade nerve gas only produced by Russia.bigjohnowls said:
I bet you thought those who advocated Iraq had no WMDs were nutters though at the time of Blair's illegal war.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
The other reported act is that the National Security Advisors did not give Corbyn access to the full detail given to Theresa May as he is seen as a risk to National security.
As far as Boris is concerned I think he is acting with TM's authority as they both must know the details of the nerve agent origin
Also the IRA, Hamas etc could be described as a long time ago but this is now and in real time for Corbyn and momentum, and it will follow them all the way to the next election0 -
Do you really want the Government to reveal such sensitive details to the public?? Are you that naive?bigjohnowls said:Seriously can anyone find a Government quote that says anything more than of a type developed in Russia.
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As I noted yesterday, Mr Murray's stretching of that particular phrase into something which requires a vast conspiracy, then his dragging up of Israel for no discernable reason as though Russia as a suspect had no reason behind it, and his own logical failings in at one stage pointing to the OPCW as a source of truth and then implying that we were going to stitch p a fix through them, thereby discrediting any outcome he doesn't like, were not compelling.bigjohnowls said:
Of the type developed in RussiaBig_G_NorthWales said:
Bit different this time. A chemical attack has taken place and Porton Down identify it as a military grade nerve gas only produced by Russia.bigjohnowls said:
I bet you thought those who advocated Iraq had no WMDs were nutters though at the time of Blair's illegal war.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
The other reported act is that the National Security Advisors did not give Corbyn access to the full detail given to Theresa May as he is seen as a risk to National security.
As far as Boris is concerned I think he is acting with TM's authority as they both must know the details of the nerve agent origin
There are many things we cannot know about this, and uncertainties, and skepticism is a healthy trait, but the leaps and bounds of logic, and the assumptions without evidence or motivation that need to take place, are far more on the 'it could have been Israel, or the USA losing control of things'(as the other chap you linked to suggested) than on the 'highly likely' to be Russia side.
And relying so heavily on a very intense interpretation of a single phrase as though that breaks down every other factor involved, and as noted as Mr Murray does stretching it out into a conspiracy, is where it crosses the line into very shoddy reasoning.0 -
Who would have thought a pm would lie about such a serious thing?bigjohnowls said:
But how did you view people who thought Iraq had no WMD??FrancisUrquhart said:
Total false equivalence...as we are talking about hard science. for the record I was against the Iraq war.bigjohnowls said:
I bet you thought those who advocated Iraq had no WMDs were nutters though at the time of Blair's illegal war.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
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So you don't have an answer to why of a type developed in Russia is the only phrase they use? The only one the UK uses France uses and US uses. You are 100% certain of a type developed by Russia means Russia actually did this and Murray doesn't have a point about the use of this phrase??FrancisUrquhart said:
You should add prison planet to list of alternative news websites you visit. You will like it over there.bigjohnowls said:
Of the type developed in RussiaBig_G_NorthWales said:
Bit different this time. A chemical attack has taken place and Porton Down identify it as a military grade nerve gas only produced by Russia.bigjohnowls said:
I bet you thought those who advocated Iraq had no WMDs were nutters though at the time of Blair's illegal war.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is Alex jones level of conspiracy theory.glw said:
That's such a stupid argument. You'd never be able to discover anything if that was the case.FrancisUrquhart said:Not by the looks of my Facebook feed...stupid amount of people arguing nonsense like how would our scientists know what this nerve agent is, if it has never been made outside of Russia.
The other reported act is that the National Security Advisors did not give Corbyn access to the full detail given to Theresa May as he is seen as a risk to National security.
As far as Boris is concerned I think he is acting with TM's authority as they both must know the details of the nerve agent origin0 -
Fair comment as so often Nick, but Corbyn cannot get into power by the people who like him. He has to gain conservative voters especially in middle England and right now he is repelling themNickPalmer said:
I think May is having a good week because her stock in trade of sober statements is what is seen to be needed, rather than the flashier talents needed in elections. Also, the Tories are taking a breather from knifing each other in public. But people who like Corbyn aren't greatly deterred by another round of red scare allegations, as these figures show.saddo said:
Still pretty high numbers for Agent Cob given his public pro Russian positionmarke09 said:For the first time since the general election May’s net approval rating (-9%) is better than Corbyn’s (-10%).
More than two-fifths of voters (43%) say May has the best interests of the country at heart compared with 39% who say Corbyn has. Thirty-two percent say the prime minister is able to stand up for Britain’s interests against 28% who believe Corbyn is.0 -
YesFloater said:
seriously? She did that?FrancisUrquhart said:
It was quite incredible that Abbott told journos to f##k off when asked about Russia...she isn't some z-list celeb being doorstepped outside a nightclub at 3am, she is a leading politician and is expected to respond to major events.oxfordsimon said:
Perish the thought that a man who spent a holiday touring East Germany with Diane Abbott might have any interest in or sympathies for the former Soviet bloc....glw said:
Yes it was the hat, not the repeated parroting of Russian talking points.oxfordsimon said:
I think it is Owen Jones complaining that Newsnight made Corbyn look too much like a Russian stooge by showing an image of him wearing a hatFloater said:
what on earth is hat gate?SouthamObserver said:Am loving Hat-gate.
Right wing, Beeb-bashing loons are now learning how they sound to normal people.0
