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I’ve been in London all day and have only just viewed the above for myself – the comment from the Defence Secretary, Gavin Williamson that Russia should just “go away and shut up”. Apparently this wasn’t just a spur of the moment comment but one that he had drafted before.
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First like the Tories.
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Once Brexit is not the only issue, Corbyn is f**ked.
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Gavin's going to undo all of Theresa's hard work0
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Maybe Corbyn's speech is having an effect after all.williamglenn said:First like the Tories.
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It wasn't just in the speech - the BBC just showed an interview with him where he repeated the same line.0
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I doubt Corbyn's reaction has anything to do with it. Things like this often give the PM a boost, even when the Opposition leader is full-square behind them. It makes the PM look in control and "above politics", and momentarily makes voters forget any dissatisfaction they have with the government on domestic issues.AndyJS said:
Maybe Corbyn's speech is having an effect after all.williamglenn said:First like the Tories.
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If the Jews corner the pineapple pizza market then we chaps can say goodbye to foreskins .... not too sure todger off-cuts make for decent pizza but perhaps that's the Jewish route to world domination !!Sean_F said:
They multi-task.glw said:
I don't know where The Jews get the time to start all these wars, run the banking system, push their candidates to victory in all elections, rule the New World Order, and rig the Eurovision song contest. They must be knackered.FrancisUrquhart said:
And it’s all the Jews fault.....glw said:
I always think of them as Stop the West, it sums up what they are really about.FrancisUrquhart said:
Classic stop the war wording....Scott_P said:twitter.com/mrtcharris/status/974400742327975936
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I doubt it was corbyns reaction as with all the news he got very little coverage and if you only got a passing listen to a soundbite it didn’t sound that bad. It is only is saddos that found out what he and him putin apologist spinner were saying.0
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I took part in this poll.0
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i.e. plenty of Labour voters who'd take May's position over Corbyn's.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
The poll is still consistent with the parties being essentially tied.0
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Not really*. Though we are talking about a fairly modest shift here.Danny565 said:
I doubt Corbyn's reaction has anything to do with it. Things like this often give the PM a boost, even when the Opposition leader is full-square behind them.AndyJS said:
Maybe Corbyn's speech is having an effect after all.williamglenn said:First like the Tories.
https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/974406839931686913?s=21
*Actually quite surprisng to look back. For every 9/11 Bush bounce, there are four events with little or no discernible impact.0 -
Between Johnson and Williamson, do we have the worst FS/DS combo ever?
It’s like having Rainbow’s Bungle the Bear and Zippy in charge.
I mean “in charge” only loosely of course.0 -
What did Nick Palmer used to say in his cockier days? Meep meep?0
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Depends on what you mean by "discernible". If you mean long-lasting, then we're yet to see how long-lasting this one is. But most events of this kind produce a mini-boost for the government for atleast a week or two. Even John Major in his dying days got brief boosts when he "stood up for the country" (e.g. when he attacked EU counties over their British beef ban).TheWhiteRabbit said:
Not really*. Though we are talking about a fairly modest shift here.Danny565 said:
I doubt Corbyn's reaction has anything to do with it. Things like this often give the PM a boost, even when the Opposition leader is full-square behind them.AndyJS said:
Maybe Corbyn's speech is having an effect after all.williamglenn said:First like the Tories.
https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/974406839931686913?s=21
*Actually quite surprisng to look back. For every 9/11 Bush bounce, there are four events with little or no discernible impact.0 -
You believe Labour is polling approx 40% because of Brexit?TGOHF said:Once Brexit is not the only issue, Corbyn is f**ked.
https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/974406839931686913?s=21
The VI for this poll pretty similar to ones we’ve been getting since January.0 -
When you see pancetta on pizza, it's..........something else.JackW said:
If the Jews corner the pineapple pizza market then we chaps can say goodbye to foreskins .... not too sure todger off-cuts make for decent pizza but perhaps that's the Jewish route to world domination !!Sean_F said:
They multi-task.glw said:
I don't know where The Jews get the time to start all these wars, run the banking system, push their candidates to victory in all elections, rule the New World Order, and rig the Eurovision song contest. They must be knackered.FrancisUrquhart said:
And it’s all the Jews fault.....glw said:
I always think of them as Stop the West, it sums up what they are really about.FrancisUrquhart said:
Classic stop the war wording....Scott_P said:twitter.com/mrtcharris/status/974400742327975936
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Conservatives short by 4 of overall majoritySean_F said:The poll is still consistent with the parties being essentially tied.
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Scary that 38% think that way...TheScreamingEagles said:twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/974409036681670659
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The Lord Halifax/Leslie Hore-Belisha combo was worse.Gardenwalker said:Between Johnson and Williamson, do we have the worst FS/DS combo ever?
It’s like having Rainbow’s Bungle the Bear and Zippy in charge.
I mean “in charge” only loosely of course.0 -
So the Labour score is overstated !! ..TheScreamingEagles said:I took part in this poll.
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On the contrary, he gained seats at the last election by avoiding the Brexit issue.TGOHF said:Once Brexit is not the only issue, Corbyn is f**ked.
https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/974406839931686913?s=21
In terms of polling, a lot depends on what happens next.0 -
Sean_F said:
When you see pancetta on pizza, it's..........something else.JackW said:
If the Jews corner the pineapple pizza market then we chaps can say goodbye to foreskins .... not too sure todger off-cuts make for decent pizza but perhaps that's the Jewish route to world domination !!Sean_F said:
They multi-task.glw said:
I don't know where The Jews get the time to start all these wars, run the banking system, push their candidates to victory in all elections, rule the New World Order, and rig the Eurovision song contest. They must be knackered.FrancisUrquhart said:
And it’s all the Jews fault.....glw said:
I always think of them as Stop the West, it sums up what they are really about.FrancisUrquhart said:
Classic stop the war wording....Scott_P said:twitter.com/mrtcharris/status/974400742327975936
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LOL at that 44% don’t know. Like come on....TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
At least Hore-Belisha gave his name to something useful.TheScreamingEagles said:
The Lord Halifax/Leslie Hore-Belisha combo was worse.Gardenwalker said:Between Johnson and Williamson, do we have the worst FS/DS combo ever?
It’s like having Rainbow’s Bungle the Bear and Zippy in charge.
I mean “in charge” only loosely of course.0 -
That 5% - did they survey Labour Party leaders office?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
So Corbyn and Milne at 1% thenTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Nah, I'll never vote Labour.JackW said:0 -
Hores?Gardenwalker said:
At least Hore-Belisha gave his name to something useful.TheScreamingEagles said:
The Lord Halifax/Leslie Hore-Belisha combo was worse.Gardenwalker said:Between Johnson and Williamson, do we have the worst FS/DS combo ever?
It’s like having Rainbow’s Bungle the Bear and Zippy in charge.
I mean “in charge” only loosely of course.0 -
Yes ... and Finchley Road and the staff at Russia Today.FrancisUrquhart said:
That 5% - did they survey Labour Party leaders office?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I can accept that some people are not sure, because of doubts they may have due to previous intelligence misuse. But I have no idea how anyone has come to the conclusion that the Russian's DIDN'T do it.FrancisUrquhart said:That 5% - did they survey Labour Party leaders office?
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I mean this is one poll for one pollster on one day, showing perhaps noise+2%. I am not overstating it.Danny565 said:
Depends on what you mean by "discernible". If you mean long-lasting, then we're yet to see how long-lasting this one is. But most events of this kind produce a mini-boost for the government for atleast a week or two. Even John Major in his dying days got brief boosts when he "stood up for the country" (e.g. when he attacked EU counties over their British beef ban).TheWhiteRabbit said:
Not really*. Though we are talking about a fairly modest shift here.Danny565 said:
I doubt Corbyn's reaction has anything to do with it. Things like this often give the PM a boost, even when the Opposition leader is full-square behind them.AndyJS said:
Maybe Corbyn's speech is having an effect after all.williamglenn said:First like the Tories.
https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/974406839931686913?s=21
*Actually quite surprisng to look back. For every 9/11 Bush bounce, there are four events with little or no discernible impact.
The primary impact will be to unify the Tories, and create problems in Labour ranks, which will then be felt down the line.0 -
Just remember these are two nuclear armed powers with shocking command and control functions.
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Incidentally, people seem to have missed that Corbyn said this in his Guardian article earlier:
We agree with the government’s action in relation to Russian diplomats, but measures to tackle the oligarchs and their loot would have a far greater impact on Russia’s elite than limited tit-for-tat expulsions. We are willing to back further sanctions as and when the investigation into the Salisbury attack produces results.
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Corbyn would be in the "probably" group, with 41%.Big_G_NorthWales said:
So Corbyn and Milne at 1% thenTheScreamingEagles said:
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Were they looking at their shoes as they answered?The_Apocalypse said:
LOL at that 44% don’t know. Like come on....TheScreamingEagles said:
They know alright. They know they have a prize pillock as leader.0 -
The contrast between Corbyn here and Michael Foot's HoC speech during the Saturday Falklands debate is stark.TheWhiteRabbit said:
I mean this is one poll for one pollster on one day, showing perhaps noise+2%. I am not overstating it.Danny565 said:
Depends on what you mean by "discernible". If you mean long-lasting, then we're yet to see how long-lasting this one is. But most events of this kind produce a mini-boost for the government for atleast a week or two. Even John Major in his dying days got brief boosts when he "stood up for the country" (e.g. when he attacked EU counties over their British beef ban).TheWhiteRabbit said:
Not really*. Though we are talking about a fairly modest shift here.Danny565 said:
I doubt Corbyn's reaction has anything to do with it. Things like this often give the PM a boost, even when the Opposition leader is full-square behind them.AndyJS said:
Maybe Corbyn's speech is having an effect after all.williamglenn said:First like the Tories.
https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/974406839931686913?s=21
*Actually quite surprisng to look back. For every 9/11 Bush bounce, there are four events with little or no discernible impact.
The primary impact will be to unify the Tories, and create problems in Labour ranks, which will then be felt down the line.0 -
Corbyn shot himself in the foot in full media view yesterday and no amount of rowing back can undo the damage he has done to himself in the eye of public opinionDanny565 said:Incidentally, people seem to have missed that Corbyn said this in his Guardian article earlier:
We agree with the government’s action in relation to Russian diplomats, but measures to tackle the oligarchs and their loot would have a far greater impact on Russia’s elite than limited tit-for-tat expulsions. We are willing to back further sanctions as and when the investigation into the Salisbury attack produces results.0 -
Say it ain't so Foxy.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Corbyn shot himself in the foot in full media view yesterday and no amount of rowing back can undo the damage he has done to himself in the eye of public opinionDanny565 said:Incidentally, people seem to have missed that Corbyn said this in his Guardian article earlier:
We agree with the government’s action in relation to Russian diplomats, but measures to tackle the oligarchs and their loot would have a far greater impact on Russia’s elite than limited tit-for-tat expulsions. We are willing to back further sanctions as and when the investigation into the Salisbury attack produces results.0 -
Ha, we can always rely on you for a neutral assessment of eventsBig_G_NorthWales said:
Corbyn shot himself in the foot in full media view yesterday and no amount of rowing back can undo the damage he has done to himself in the eye of public opinionDanny565 said:Incidentally, people seem to have missed that Corbyn said this in his Guardian article earlier:
We agree with the government’s action in relation to Russian diplomats, but measures to tackle the oligarchs and their loot would have a far greater impact on Russia’s elite than limited tit-for-tat expulsions. We are willing to back further sanctions as and when the investigation into the Salisbury attack produces results.
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Not the public's perceptionFoxy said:
Corbyn would be in the "probably" group, with 41%.Big_G_NorthWales said:
So Corbyn and Milne at 1% thenTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Corbyn shot himself in the foot over his shoot to kill to policy.
Didn't stop him denying the Tories a majority last June and making net gains.0 -
On topic (someone has to be): No, Williamson hasn't blown it, because there was nothing to blow. There are precisely two people in the Conservative Party who want him to be the next leader, and the support of one of them is going to be negative if he does throw his hat into the ring.0
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I would have thought the institutes, groups and think tanks where Russian state money is funnelled into would be notable targets for a crack down.0
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Time to put on the brown trousers Foxy - your cult leader is an absolute dud.Foxy said:
On the contrary, he gained seats at the last election by avoiding the Brexit issue.TGOHF said:Once Brexit is not the only issue, Corbyn is f**ked.
https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/974406839931686913?s=21
In terms of polling, a lot depends on what happens next.0 -
Just been shown on Russia Today with Russian commentary using his comments against the UKDanny565 said:
Ha, we can always rely on you for a neutral assessment of eventsBig_G_NorthWales said:
Corbyn shot himself in the foot in full media view yesterday and no amount of rowing back can undo the damage he has done to himself in the eye of public opinionDanny565 said:Incidentally, people seem to have missed that Corbyn said this in his Guardian article earlier:
We agree with the government’s action in relation to Russian diplomats, but measures to tackle the oligarchs and their loot would have a far greater impact on Russia’s elite than limited tit-for-tat expulsions. We are willing to back further sanctions as and when the investigation into the Salisbury attack produces results.0 -
+1. Williamson is delusional, I have no idea why he thinks he might even be in with chance. How he’s managed to even get this far in politics is beyond me.Richard_Nabavi said:No, Williamson hasn't blown it, because there was nothing to blow. There are precisely two people in the Conservative Party who want him to be the next leader, and the support of one of them is going to be negative if he does throw his hat into the ring.
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Nah, you mistake me for Big G. It is May that is the dud.TGOHF said:
Time to put on the brown trousers Foxy - your cult leader is an absolute dud.Foxy said:
On the contrary, he gained seats at the last election by avoiding the Brexit issue.TGOHF said:Once Brexit is not the only issue, Corbyn is f**ked.
https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/974406839931686913?s=21
In terms of polling, a lot depends on what happens next.
I voted for Kendall.0 -
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Land of hope and ToriesTGOHF said:
Time to put on the brown trousers Foxy - your cult leader is an absolute dud.Foxy said:
On the contrary, he gained seats at the last election by avoiding the Brexit issue.TGOHF said:Once Brexit is not the only issue, Corbyn is f**ked.
https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/974406839931686913?s=21
In terms of polling, a lot depends on what happens next. 0 -
That is what we were told a year ago. How did that work out?Pulpstar said:
Land of hope and ToriesTGOHF said:
Time to put on the brown trousers Foxy - your cult leader is an absolute dud.Foxy said:
On the contrary, he gained seats at the last election by avoiding the Brexit issue.TGOHF said:Once Brexit is not the only issue, Corbyn is f**ked.
https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/974406839931686913?s=21
In terms of polling, a lot depends on what happens next.0 -
We still have a Tory government, and lots of hope as long as Corbz is nowhere near the levers of power.Foxy said:
That is what we were told a year ago. How did that work out?Pulpstar said:
Land of hope and ToriesTGOHF said:
Time to put on the brown trousers Foxy - your cult leader is an absolute dud.Foxy said:
On the contrary, he gained seats at the last election by avoiding the Brexit issue.TGOHF said:Once Brexit is not the only issue, Corbyn is f**ked.
https://twitter.com/samcoatestimes/status/974406839931686913?s=21
In terms of polling, a lot depends on what happens next.0 -
2 Russian shills on QT - plus how nasty will Mr Starmer be about Corbyn ?0
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Eh? No! Belisha Beacons.TheScreamingEagles said:
Hores?Gardenwalker said:
At least Hore-Belisha gave his name to something useful.TheScreamingEagles said:
The Lord Halifax/Leslie Hore-Belisha combo was worse.Gardenwalker said:Between Johnson and Williamson, do we have the worst FS/DS combo ever?
It’s like having Rainbow’s Bungle the Bear and Zippy in charge.
I mean “in charge” only loosely of course.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belisha_beacon
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I know, I was jokingGardenwalker said:
Eh? No! Belisha Beacons.TheScreamingEagles said:
Hores?Gardenwalker said:
At least Hore-Belisha gave his name to something useful.TheScreamingEagles said:
The Lord Halifax/Leslie Hore-Belisha combo was worse.Gardenwalker said:Between Johnson and Williamson, do we have the worst FS/DS combo ever?
It’s like having Rainbow’s Bungle the Bear and Zippy in charge.
I mean “in charge” only loosely of course.
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You a regular RT viewer?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just been shown on Russia Today with Russian commentary using his comments against the UKDanny565 said:
Ha, we can always rely on you for a neutral assessment of eventsBig_G_NorthWales said:
Corbyn shot himself in the foot in full media view yesterday and no amount of rowing back can undo the damage he has done to himself in the eye of public opinionDanny565 said:Incidentally, people seem to have missed that Corbyn said this in his Guardian article earlier:
We agree with the government’s action in relation to Russian diplomats, but measures to tackle the oligarchs and their loot would have a far greater impact on Russia’s elite than limited tit-for-tat expulsions. We are willing to back further sanctions as and when the investigation into the Salisbury attack produces results.
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I never heard Williamson speak before. Sounds like his voice has yet to break. What on earth makes him even vaguely qualified to be defence secretary?0
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Chris Williamson on Newsnight.0
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Dimbles doing a very good job chairing this panel.0
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Russian goon flailing on QT - totally misjudged the mood. Like Corbyn.0
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While Rory The Tory, a bloke who was a governor of a region of a war torn country, never gets the call.SouthamObserver said:I never heard Williamson speak before. Sounds like his voice has yet to break. What on earth makes him even vaguely qualified to be defence secretary?
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Grayling nailed it on QT. To be fair, Starmer did a good job too.0
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He likes to know what Corbyn's thinkingBenpointer said:
You a regular RT viewer?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just been shown on Russia Today with Russian commentary using his comments against the UKDanny565 said:
Ha, we can always rely on you for a neutral assessment of eventsBig_G_NorthWales said:
Corbyn shot himself in the foot in full media view yesterday and no amount of rowing back can undo the damage he has done to himself in the eye of public opinionDanny565 said:Incidentally, people seem to have missed that Corbyn said this in his Guardian article earlier:
We agree with the government’s action in relation to Russian diplomats, but measures to tackle the oligarchs and their loot would have a far greater impact on Russia’s elite than limited tit-for-tat expulsions. We are willing to back further sanctions as and when the investigation into the Salisbury attack produces results.0 -
No - I rarely view it but this was not me viewing it it was Sky showing how Russia were using Corbyn on itBenpointer said:
You a regular RT viewer?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just been shown on Russia Today with Russian commentary using his comments against the UKDanny565 said:
Ha, we can always rely on you for a neutral assessment of eventsBig_G_NorthWales said:
Corbyn shot himself in the foot in full media view yesterday and no amount of rowing back can undo the damage he has done to himself in the eye of public opinionDanny565 said:Incidentally, people seem to have missed that Corbyn said this in his Guardian article earlier:
We agree with the government’s action in relation to Russian diplomats, but measures to tackle the oligarchs and their loot would have a far greater impact on Russia’s elite than limited tit-for-tat expulsions. We are willing to back further sanctions as and when the investigation into the Salisbury attack produces results.0 -
God knows tbhSouthamObserver said:I never heard Williamson speak before. Sounds like his voice has yet to break. What on earth makes him even vaguely qualified to be defence secretary?
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Plus Gavin Williamson's an adulterer.
You can't trust him, if he can betray his wife he can betray his country.
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To be fair I seem to remember Nick Griffin was allowed on QT, and he did himself no favours. Hopefully more people will see through RT's cloak of journalism.The_Apocalypse said:0 -
Brian “Salmond” Cox pining for the Russian fjords.0
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+1glw said:
To be fair I seem to remember Nick Griffin was allowed on QT, and he did himself no favours. Hopefully more people will see through RT's cloak of journalism.The_Apocalypse said:
The RT chap is failing to get any positive response from the audience.
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Judging by that recent YouGov poll with only 5% believing it wasn’t Russia who did it, most already see through RT.glw said:
To be fair I seem to remember Nick Griffin was allowed on QT, and he did himself no favours. Hopefully more people will see through RT's cloak of journalism.The_Apocalypse said:0 -
Do you mean Corbyn !!!Mortimer said:
+1glw said:
To be fair I seem to remember Nick Griffin was allowed on QT, and he did himself no favours. Hopefully more people will see through RT's cloak of journalism.The_Apocalypse said:
The RT chap is failing to get any positive response from the audience.0 -
The biggest town in Gavin Williamson's constituency is Wombourne. Is that where the Wombles came from?0
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A bizarre and deeply inadvisable editorial choice.The_Apocalypse said:
“And in Gloucester tonight, former MP Oswald Mosley, popular broadcaster Lord Haw-Haw, and German ambassador Joachim von Ribbentrop. And the first question comes from a lady in the audience...yes, you with the swastika armband.”0 -
QT has turned into a total joke. Last week it was the kid off Blue Peter FFS.0
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I never watch itFrancisUrquhart said:QT has turned into a total joke. Last week it was the kid off Blue Peter FFS.
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I find Corbyn, and those pushing this line, quite frustrating at times. Usually the same people are saying how little we can and should do to avoid 'escalation', while others complain about how little we are doing, so where in the flying f*** is this drift to war he thinks is happening, because some nasty words are being thrown about and a few diplomats sent home?Scott_P said:
I have always been a firm believer in not overreacting to things, and in foreign relations that clearly applies even more than in most areas, you have to be cold and rational sometimes for the sake of larger goals. But what does annoy me is when people are so concerned about overreacting that they criticise purported overreaction so early that they are, in effect, arguing against a reaction not an overrreaction. It puts me most in mind of how the NRA immediately paints any reaction to a gun massacre as an overreaction.
Sending some diplomats home and speaking angry words - where we believe culpability is 'highly likely' from a certain source - is not exactly disproportionate escalation, so other than what is bound to be people mouthing off on twitter and what, one minister making a less than dignified statement of the type the Russians seem to be full of, what exactly makes people think we have overreacted? Unless one thinks we are just making up what has happened the reaction has not been extreme (and no, that does not mean people cannot question events to some degree).0 -
Well said.kle4 said:I have always been a firm believer in not overreacting to things, and in foreign relations that clearly applies even more than in most areas, you have to be cold and rational sometimes for the sake of larger goals. But what does annoy me is when people are so concerned about overreacting that they criticise purported overreaction so early that they are, in effect, arguing against a reaction not an overrreaction.
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Russian guy is lasering on Starmer for letting down Corbyn.FrancisUrquhart said:QT has turned into a total joke. Last week it was the kid off Blue Peter FFS.
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And in all this has anyone seen Diane Abbott - she was the shadow home secretary last time I looked0
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How did he do?FrancisUrquhart said:QT has turned into a total joke. Last week it was the kid off Blue Peter FFS.
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As a relatively squeaky voiced man, I sympathise with the lack of authoritativeness he has as a result.SouthamObserver said:I never heard Williamson speak before. Sounds like his voice has yet to break. What on earth makes him even vaguely qualified to be defence secretary?
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He was pretty lame.kle4 said:
How did he do?FrancisUrquhart said:QT has turned into a total joke. Last week it was the kid off Blue Peter FFS.
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Well, confidence and boldness will take incompetents a long way. Sometimes to the very top even, though if he is as bad as they say hopefully not in this instance.The_Apocalypse said:
+1. Williamson is delusional, I have no idea why he thinks he might even be in with chance. How he’s managed to even get this far in politics is beyond me.Richard_Nabavi said:No, Williamson hasn't blown it, because there was nothing to blow. There are precisely two people in the Conservative Party who want him to be the next leader, and the support of one of them is going to be negative if he does throw his hat into the ring.
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He couldn't even make something out of sticky-back plastic....Foxy said:
He was pretty lame.kle4 said:
How did he do?FrancisUrquhart said:QT has turned into a total joke. Last week it was the kid off Blue Peter FFS.
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Christ, that is almost funny were it not for the stakes involved.TheScreamingEagles said:Just remember these are two nuclear armed powers with shocking command and control functions.
https://twitter.com/iainmarlow/status/9741584180165345280 -
May clearly values Williamson, which says something about him. Or perhaps says more about her!kle4 said:
Well, confidence and boldness will take incompetents a long way. Sometimes to the very top even, though if he is as bad as they say hopefully not in this instance.The_Apocalypse said:
+1. Williamson is delusional, I have no idea why he thinks he might even be in with chance. How he’s managed to even get this far in politics is beyond me.Richard_Nabavi said:No, Williamson hasn't blown it, because there was nothing to blow. There are precisely two people in the Conservative Party who want him to be the next leader, and the support of one of them is going to be negative if he does throw his hat into the ring.
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The squeaky voice can be addressed. George Osborne was squeaky early in his career but cured it with voice training; now he more or less bestrides British politics and political commentary. The choice of rhetoric is more of a worry. Why 'shut up'? Russia's silence might be welcome but it's hardly our principal concern right now.0
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I didn't realise that being a city freesheet editor means you're bestriding British politics.Stark_Dawning said:The squeaky voice can be addressed. George Osborne was squeaky early in his career but cured it with voice training; now he more or less bestrides British politics and political commentary. The choice of rhetoric is more of a worry. Why 'shut up'? Russia's silence might be welcome but it's hardly our principal concern right now.
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Well, it is perhaps easier to bestride than it used to be.Mortimer said:
I didn't realise that being a city freesheet editor means you're bestriding British politics.Stark_Dawning said:The squeaky voice can be addressed. George Osborne was squeaky early in his career but cured it with voice training; now he more or less bestrides British politics and political commentary. The choice of rhetoric is more of a worry. Why 'shut up'? Russia's silence might be welcome but it's hardly our principal concern right now.
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GO now works for a Russian.Stark_Dawning said:The squeaky voice can be addressed. George Osborne was squeaky early in his career but cured it with voice training; now he more or less bestrides British politics and political commentary. The choice of rhetoric is more of a worry. Why 'shut up'? Russia's silence might be welcome but it's hardly our principal concern right now.
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Defence Secretaries have always been at the fringes....Liam Fox's demise came about in that role and enough said about Fingers Fallon. Labour treated it as a part time post for a number of years so its trajectory has definitely fallen since Hezza's day.
Williamson's appointment (like BJs) was one of those May mysteries to me. A post that should have gravitas (Trident) occupied by an immature Adrian Mole type character - I suppose it makes May appear stateswomanlike. I can only see Williamson ending up as leader - on the opposition benches0
