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Money, money, money.Richard_Nabavi said:
It seems a suitable initial response. What else do you think she should do?SouthamObserver said:Corbyn’s craven words will draw attention away from the fact that the government has actually done little to attack the Russians where it will actually hurt.
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It's about time that these Labour MPs had a look at planHYUFD said:
The vast majority never wanted him in the first place but it is Labour members who keep Corbyn in placeBig_G_NorthWales said:How long can labour mps put up with Corbyn
A B C D E F G H I JK again and consider whether they should form their own party.0 -
You have to wonder what Corbyn’s response would be if the Irish Republicans resumed their attacks?
Actually you don’t have to wonder do you?0 -
Well played!david_herdson said:
I claim credit by bigging up his confidence and improved ability a couple of weeks ago. it's all gone wrong for him since then.Scrapheap_as_was said:
on the NHS....Big_G_NorthWales said:Is Corbyn for real - I accept that I do not support him but today he is again being taken to the cleaners by TM
This is akin to last night's Man Utd performance0 -
Yvette Cooper hits Corbyn where it hurts0
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You provide a perfect example of why the LibDems are without relevence in Britain today.PClipp said:
I am glad you realise that, Mr WalBig_G_NorthWales said:
There are times when political point scoring is childishPClipp said:
What? Mrs May actually said that, Mr Navabi?Richard_Nabavi said:She says there is “no place” for the corrupt elites in the UK.
She is right of course.... but what then will happen to the Conservative Party?
I am glad you realise that, Mr Wales. At last!Big_G_NorthWales said:
There are times when political point scoring is childishPClipp said:
What? Mrs May actually said that, Mr Navabi?Richard_Nabavi said:She says there is “no place” for the corrupt elites in the UK.
She is right of course.... but what then will happen to the Conservative Party?0 -
He might publically restrain himself from cheering. Maybe.TheScreamingEagles said:You have to wonder what Corbyn’s response would be if the Irish Republicans resumed their attacks?
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Corbyn knows he can’t rely on the PLP. There’ll be mass reselections before the next GE and the new party will emerge from these.glw said:
It's about time that these Labour MPs had a look at planHYUFD said:
The vast majority never wanted him in the first place but it is Labour members who keep Corbyn in placeBig_G_NorthWales said:How long can labour mps put up with Corbyn
A B C D E F G H I JK again and consider whether they should form their own party.
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Yvette Cooper is the de facto leader of the Labour backbench party.0
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On Daily Politics. What did she say?Big_G_NorthWales said:Yvette Cooper hits Corbyn where it hurts
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May said there will be ammendments to a bill for a UK "Magnitsky act", the NCA are going on the warpath, and we will freeze Russian state assets where appropriate. Today's headline is the diplomats being expelled, but there's more to it than that.SouthamObserver said:
Money, money, money.Richard_Nabavi said:
It seems a suitable initial response. What else do you think she should do?SouthamObserver said:Corbyn’s craven words will draw attention away from the fact that the government has actually done little to attack the Russians where it will actually hurt.
Personally I would like all this to happen today, but I accept that legislation will be needed in some cases, and legal processes need to be followed in others.0 -
Any interest in a bet on that?SouthamObserver said:
Corbyn knows he can’t rely on the PLP. There’ll be mass reselections before the next GE and the new party will emerge from these.glw said:
It's about time that these Labour MPs had a look at planHYUFD said:
The vast majority never wanted him in the first place but it is Labour members who keep Corbyn in placeBig_G_NorthWales said:How long can labour mps put up with Corbyn
A B C D E F G H I JK again and consider whether they should form their own party.0 -
We'd have meaningful conversations with both sidesTheScreamingEagles said:You have to wonder what Corbyn’s response would be if the Irish Republicans resumed their attacks?
Actually you don’t have to wonder do you?0 -
In the House fully backing TMDavidL said:
On Daily Politics. What did she say?Big_G_NorthWales said:Yvette Cooper hits Corbyn where it hurts
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Wonder how the media will portray this. On the Monday session, ITV News referred overtly to Corbyn's response and his backbenchers' dismay, (didn't show him saying it, though).
His cultists won't care. Labour tribalists might. There's loyalty to a party brand, and antipathy to the Conservatives, but siding with a foreign state deemed responsible for the use of nerve agent on UK soil and potentially putting many British citizens at risk in Salisbury is quite something else. Hmm.0 -
"Put the foot down Gerry ! the PSNI are right behind us.."TheScreamingEagles said:You have to wonder what Corbyn’s response would be if the Irish Republicans resumed their attacks?
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Its not up to the government - its up to Ofcom & they're looking at it.....the description by the PM that the Russian govt did it is probably enough to get it pulled...DavidL said:Looks like RT keeps it’s license for now. Salmond will be relieved.
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Bullseye host Jim Bowen joins Stephen Hawking at the pearly gates today
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-434031780 -
Russia has used a radiological weapon and a chemical weapon, so what next? What would PM Corbyn do if smallpox, anthrax, or a superflu hailing from Biopreparat was used in the UK? He's equivocate.TheScreamingEagles said:You have to wonder what Corbyn’s response would be if the Irish Republicans resumed their attacks?
Actually you don’t have to wonder do you?0 -
Mr. HYUFD, I hope he isn't saying to Hawking "Have a look at what you could've won...":0
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DUP accuses Lab front bench of appeasement0
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What a great program Bullseye was. No expense spared on the prizes back in the day.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. HYUFD, I hope he isn't saying to Hawking "Have a look at what you could've won...":
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Corbyn would be the first PM to redirect MI6 spies to Washington and Brussels rather than Moscow and Beijing and the Middle East.TheScreamingEagles said:You have to wonder what Corbyn’s response would be if the Irish Republicans resumed their attacks?
Actually you don’t have to wonder do you?
The army would end up having to take an Oath of Loyalty to the Socialist values of the People rather than the monarch0 -
Hopefully Sputnik will also get closed down in London and EdinburghCarlottaVance said:
Its not up to the government - its up to Ofcom & they're looking at it.....the description by the PM that the Russian govt did it is probably enough to get it pulled...DavidL said:Looks like RT keeps it’s license for now. Salmond will be relieved.
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I expect Hawking would enjoy the banterMorris_Dancer said:Mr. HYUFD, I hope he isn't saying to Hawking "Have a look at what you could've won...":
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I am reluctant to suggest this but it does seem like this is TM's Falkland's moment0
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Leading Bild Journalist calls Corbyn a useful idiot and Kremlin stooge.
https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/9739116869513912320 -
I think that was the case in the Falklands too?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. NorthWales, I heard somewhere that during the war, Welshmen were specially employed to converse over the telephone, as the Germans had no idea what they were saying.
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Mr. Glenn, interesting, didn't know useful idiot was a phrase in German too.0
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Although, I'm not sure his chair would have got through the caravan's door.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. HYUFD, I hope he isn't saying to Hawking "Have a look at what you could've won...":
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I'm getting nervous here. We know that Jezza and Vlad are good muckers. Perhaps Vlad has secretly told Jezza that Russia genuinely wasn't behind it. Jezza has taken this line so that when it comes out that Russia is in the clear he will look like a statesman while Theresa will look like a warmongering nincompoop. Vlad would be that devious. Is there any other explanation?0
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Sadly there's no way it can be. What would the equivalent of white flags over Stanley look like in this situation? Putin saying "Sorry, yes we did do it" and handing over his agents for trial? Can't see that happening.Big_G_NorthWales said:I am reluctant to suggest this but it does seem like this is TM's Falkland's moment
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Ben Bradshaw socks it to Corbyn0
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Ben Bradshaw, Labour "Can I assure the Prime Minister she has the support of most of us on these benches....."0
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Nah, Mrs Thatcher hadn't lost her majority prior to her Falkland Islands moment.Big_G_NorthWales said:I am reluctant to suggest this but it does seem like this is TM's Falkland's moment
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At least Foot ended up backing sending a taskforce with rather less reservations than Corbyn had about the expulsions today.Big_G_NorthWales said:I am reluctant to suggest this but it does seem like this is TM's Falkland's moment
If Corbyn becomes PM, especially without a majority there must be a slim chance of a military coup if he is seen to go too far0 -
Labour MPs lining up to express their support for May.
EDIT: Even Anna Soubry!!0 -
It was originally coined in Russian and generally attributed to Lenin although without a precise source.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Glenn, interesting, didn't know useful idiot was a phrase in German too.
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I have travelling back from a regular hospital trip and so have not been able to follow live. But it does seem from reports that Corbyn could not have got this more tonally wrong. Today wasn't the time for party politics. It was the day to say ''Oi! You can't do that Mr Putin.'0
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Yes - Corbyn is a closet PutinistStark_Dawning said:I'm getting nervous here. We know that Jezza and Vlad are good muckers. Perhaps Vlad has secretly told Jezza that Russia genuinely wasn't behind it. Jezza has taken this line so that when it comes out that Russia is in the clear he will look like a statesman while Theresa will look like a warmongering nincompoop. Vlad would be that devious. Is there any other explanation?
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The issue is "where appropriate" seems to be a very limited definition as things stand. I hope May is holding actions back to retaliate to Russia's inevitable retaliation.glw said:
May said there will be ammendments to a bill for a UK "Magnitsky act", the NCA are going on the warpath, and we will freeze Russian state assets where appropriate. Today's headline is the diplomats being expelled, but there's more to it than that.SouthamObserver said:
Money, money, money.Richard_Nabavi said:
It seems a suitable initial response. What else do you think she should do?SouthamObserver said:Corbyn’s craven words will draw attention away from the fact that the government has actually done little to attack the Russians where it will actually hurt.
Personally I would like all this to happen today, but I accept that legislation will be needed in some cases, and legal processes need to be followed in others.0 -
Chris Bryant again forcefully backs TM0
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Daily Mail seems to be (Sort of) behind Corbyn in the comments section....0
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Corbyn desperately hopes Moscow isn't behind it, so he clings to putting HMG to a ludicrous level of proof?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Yes - Corbyn is a closet PutinistStark_Dawning said:I'm getting nervous here. We know that Jezza and Vlad are good muckers. Perhaps Vlad has secretly told Jezza that Russia genuinely wasn't behind it. Jezza has taken this line so that when it comes out that Russia is in the clear he will look like a statesman while Theresa will look like a warmongering nincompoop. Vlad would be that devious. Is there any other explanation?
Like someone finding out their much loved entertainer is accused of being a pedophile.0 -
Trump and Corbyn, both usefull idiots or bought stooges? You decideBig_G_NorthWales said:
Yes - Corbyn is a closet PutinistStark_Dawning said:I'm getting nervous here. We know that Jezza and Vlad are good muckers. Perhaps Vlad has secretly told Jezza that Russia genuinely wasn't behind it. Jezza has taken this line so that when it comes out that Russia is in the clear he will look like a statesman while Theresa will look like a warmongering nincompoop. Vlad would be that devious. Is there any other explanation?
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I don't think a LAB MP in the Commons has yet back Corbyn0
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I would guess the Daily Mail comments section is ground zero for Russian bots.Pulpstar said:Daily Mail seems to be (Sort of) behind Corbyn in the comments section....
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Russian bots out in force....Pulpstar said:Daily Mail seems to be (Sort of) behind Corbyn in the comments section....
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Simple. Corbyn can't stand up for Britain. He just can't do itStark_Dawning said:I'm getting nervous here. We know that Jezza and Vlad are good muckers. Perhaps Vlad has secretly told Jezza that Russia genuinely wasn't behind it. Jezza has taken this line so that when it comes out that Russia is in the clear he will look like a statesman while Theresa will look like a warmongering nincompoop. Vlad would be that devious. Is there any other explanation?
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That’s about the 17th time you’ve called that this year!! :-)Big_G_NorthWales said:I am reluctant to suggest this but it does seem like this is TM's Falkland's moment
Today’s events have far more significance for Labour than for Mrs May. The measures announced are not going to cause much of a problem for Putin and do nothing to discomfit the oligarchs that surround him. The UK is in a weak position, unfortunately.
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Corbyn was worse on Monday, but he was still inadvertently parroting Russian talking points that are designed to muddy the waters.oxfordsimon said:I have travelling back from a regular hospital trip and so have not been able to follow live. But it does seem from reports that Corbyn could not have got this more tonally wrong. Today wasn't the time for party politics. It was the day to say ''Oi! You can't do that Mr Putin.'
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Yes, the obvious one, that Corbyn is wrong on this.Stark_Dawning said:I'm getting nervous here. We know that Jezza and Vlad are good muckers. Perhaps Vlad has secretly told Jezza that Russia genuinely wasn't behind it. Jezza has taken this line so that when it comes out that Russia is in the clear he will look like a statesman while Theresa will look like a warmongering nincompoop. Vlad would be that devious. Is there any other explanation?
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Am I right in thinking that in the latter case, you argue that WWI was a European civil war, and WWII was therefore WWI?david_herdson said:(This does give me my chance to argue that we've either already had WW3 or we've not yet had WW2).
What about the former?
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Mr. Glenn, ah, cheers for that. Quite fitting, given current circumstances.0
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I see Corbyn has messed up again.
It’s not shocking that Anna Soubry would support May on this.MarqueeMark said:Labour MPs lining up to express their support for May.
EDIT: Even Anna Soubry!!
Tbh, all the Labour MPs publicly backing May that have been mentioned on here so far all seem to be Labour moderates.0 -
I think you exaggerate somewhat but it is a big moment for the Country and TM is getting wide cross party support and that should be reflected in the CountrySouthamObserver said:
That’s about the 17th time you’ve called that this year!! :-)Big_G_NorthWales said:I am reluctant to suggest this but it does seem like this is TM's Falkland's moment
Today’s events have far more significance for Labour than for Mrs May. The measures announced are not going to cause much of a problem for Putin and do nothing to discomfit the oligarchs that surround him. The UK is in a weak position, unfortunately.0 -
If Corbyn collaborates any further people will think he’s French.0
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What is standing up for Britain? Our corrupt, venal security establishment and their pet war-obsessed politicians on both sides of the house, who have been caught lying multiple times and stand to benefit from increased tensions with Russia, or those who caution for a measured response based on real evidence, mindful of the negative repercussions potentially unnecessary increased tensions with Russia will have on the rest of us?0
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How much do you charge per postJWisemann said:What is standing up for Britain? Our corrupt, venal security establishment and their pet war-obsessed politicians on both sides of the house, who have been caught lying multiple times and stand to benefit from increased tensions with Russia, or those who caution for a measured response based on real evidence, mindful of the negative repercussions increased tensions with Russia will have on the rest of us?
I would be willing to sell out for say a quid a time0 -
Not one labour mp has supported CorbynThe_Apocalypse said:I see Corbyn has messed up again.
It’s not shocking that Anna Soubry would support May on this.MarqueeMark said:Labour MPs lining up to express their support for May.
EDIT: Even Anna Soubry!!
Tbh, all the Labour MPs publicly backing May that have been mentioned on here so far all seem to be Labour moderates.0 -
Despite everything he has said I don't think Corbyn is a fan of Putin like Trump, Corbyn's views go way back, and his gullibility is driven by his long standing anti-Western views and hatred of the Tories. I'm sure Corbyn thinks he has been talking tough about Putin even as he has given some of the Russian viewpoints an airing.Slackbladder said:Trump and Corbyn, both usefull idiots or bought stooges? You decide
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Yes, all speakers are moderates. But the jeers weren't all from them...The_Apocalypse said:I see Corbyn has messed up again.
It’s not shocking that Anna Soubry would support May on this.MarqueeMark said:Labour MPs lining up to express their support for May.
EDIT: Even Anna Soubry!!
Tbh, all the Labour MPs publicly backing May that have been mentioned on here so far all seem to be Labour moderates.0 -
I'd suggest that you are wrong Mike, yet again, and that Corbyn's measured and grown-up response will go down better with a fair slice of the country than impotent and childish willy-waving in some sub-pound-shop Thatcher-in-1982 fashion.0
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They come from different places I agree, but their positions end up remarkably similarglw said:
Despite everything he has said I don't think Corbyn is a fan of Putin like Trump, Corbyn's views go way back, and his gullibility is driven by his long standing anti-Western views and hatred of the Tories. I'm sure Corbyn thinks he has been talking tough about Putin even as he has given some of the Russian viewpoints an airing.Slackbladder said:Trump and Corbyn, both usefull idiots or bought stooges? You decide
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What planet are you onJWisemann said:I'd suggest that you are wrong Mike, yet again, and that Corbyn's measured and grown-up response will go down better with a fair slice of the country than impotent and childish willy-waving in some sub-pound-shop Thatcher-in-1982 fashion.
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The Daily Mail comments section being a total mess isn’t really news.
I do wonder how much this story is capturing public attention. Was shocked that my own family members didn’t seem to giving it much thought. Either way, we’ll find out in the coming weeks/months.0 -
In reality a post like that wouldn't even get 10c with verification on a long established account. It's dirt cheap to abuse social media.TheWhiteRabbit said:
How much do you charge per postJWisemann said:What is standing up for Britain? Our corrupt, venal security establishment and their pet war-obsessed politicians on both sides of the house, who have been caught lying multiple times and stand to benefit from increased tensions with Russia, or those who caution for a measured response based on real evidence, mindful of the negative repercussions increased tensions with Russia will have on the rest of us?
I would be willing to sell out for say a quid a time0 -
There really are 2 Labour parties in the HoC
Christ Pat McFadden not missing Corbyn.0 -
The divisions in labour are all on display and is not sustainableDavidL said:There really are 2 Labour parties in the HoC
Christ Pat McFadden not missing Corbyn.0 -
@TheWhiteRabbit I didn’t know there were jeers....wow. I wonder who isn’t speaking up then.
@Big_G_NorthWales I have my doubts that the likes of Cat Smith and Laura Pidcock aren’t supporting the Corbyn line on this, unfortunately.0 -
We said just the same a few minutes ago in our office.Richard_Nabavi said:
I'm sure it can all be resolved over a cup of tea and a biscuit with that nice Mr Putin.TheScreamingEagles said:
Bring your own teabags, water, mug and kettle though.......0 -
Yes but they are not publicly backing himThe_Apocalypse said:@TheWhiteRabbit I didn’t know there were jeers....wow. I wonder who isn’t speaking up then.
@Big_G_NorthWales I have my doubts that the likes of Cat Smith and Laura Pidcock aren’t supporting the Corbyn line on this, unfortunately.0 -
40,000 "German" soldiers at Stalingrad were actually Soviets.TheScreamingEagles said:If Corbyn collaborates any further people will think he’s French.
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Just like anti-semites, Corbyn surrounds himself with Putin-supporters.... He may not be a Putin supporter himself, but.......glw said:
Despite everything he has said I don't think Corbyn is a fan of Putin like Trump, Corbyn's views go way back, and his gullibility is driven by his long standing anti-Western views and hatred of the Tories. I'm sure Corbyn thinks he has been talking tough about Putin even as he has given some of the Russian viewpoints an airing.Slackbladder said:Trump and Corbyn, both usefull idiots or bought stooges? You decide
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Practically all the ones that do are on the frontbench: needs must. Except Williamson, who was advertising the Morning Star at PMQs.MikeSmithson said:I don't think a LAB MP in the Commons has yet back Corbyn
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Outside the massively discredited and moribund Westminster bubble (proven wrong on almost everything over the last few years) and its irrelevant hangers-on who frequent this place, I imagine most people barely give a tinkers cuss. Got more important things to worry about, like why all public services seem to be crumbling into total destruction.The_Apocalypse said:The Daily Mail comments section being a total mess isn’t really news.
I do wonder how much this story is capturing public attention. Was shocked that my own family members didn’t seem to giving it much thought. Either way, we’ll find out in the coming weeks/months.0 -
I'm not sure that kicking out a few flunkeys or refusing to send a few flunkeys to Britain is really going to affect the price of herrings.
As for Jeremy Corbyn, why is anyone surprised at his response?0 -
Can anyone please remind me how to put certain posters on ignore?0
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Can't handle the truth?oxfordsimon said:Can anyone please remind me how to put certain posters on ignore?
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SouthamObserver said:
That’s about the 17th time you’ve called that this year!! :-)Big_G_NorthWales said:I am reluctant to suggest this but it does seem like this is TM's Falkland's moment
Today’s events have far more significance for Labour than for Mrs May. The measures announced are not going to cause much of a problem for Putin and do nothing to discomfit the oligarchs that surround him. The UK is in a weak position, unfortunately.
Poor Big G is desperate for us all to look lovingly at our dear leader through his coloured glasses...
Granted she is playing the politics of all this quite well, but seriously that is all she is doing. We need to go much further of course, but May's natural caution will stop it. There is no way we should be participating in the World Cup in a country sponsoring terrorism, murder led by criminals and thieves.
But at the end of the day, her campaigning skills are utterly atrocious..Russia or no Russia.. and based purely on that she will not lead the Tories into another election...
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I think it isn't all that understandable to a lot of people. People have asked "is it contagious", and there's an element of "he deserved it". It's the recklessness of the Russian actions that is of greatest concern. If say the courier (there very likely was one) damaged the container for the substance on something like a plane or a train you could be talking about dozens of deaths.The_Apocalypse said:The Daily Mail comments section being a total mess isn’t really news.
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Nigel Farage
✔ @Nigel_Farage
Mrs May has acted, quite rightly, against Russia. Not that it will make any difference.
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Keep consoling yourself by all meansJWisemann said:
Outside the massively discredited and moribund Westminster bubble (proven wrong on almost everything over the last few years) and its irrelevant hangers-on who frequent this place, I imagine most people barely give a tinkers cuss. Got more important things to worry about, like why all public services seem to be crumbling into total destruction.The_Apocalypse said:The Daily Mail comments section being a total mess isn’t really news.
I do wonder how much this story is capturing public attention. Was shocked that my own family members didn’t seem to giving it much thought. Either way, we’ll find out in the coming weeks/months.0 -
Except for the job lot of speedboats, for the Birmingham based winners.Pulpstar said:
What a great program Bullseye was. No expense spared on the prizes back in the day.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. HYUFD, I hope he isn't saying to Hawking "Have a look at what you could've won...":
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No, it won't. let's see what happens with sanctions.AlastairMeeks said:I'm not sure that kicking out a few flunkeys or refusing to send a few flunkeys to Britain is really going to affect the price of herrings.
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Give it time, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them do so at some point or another. Would be extraordinary for Corbyn if they weren’t backing his line though.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Yes but they are not publicly backing himThe_Apocalypse said:@TheWhiteRabbit I didn’t know there were jeers....wow. I wonder who isn’t speaking up then.
@Big_G_NorthWales I have my doubts that the likes of Cat Smith and Laura Pidcock aren’t supporting the Corbyn line on this, unfortunately.0 -
I can't handle offensive stupidity. And you are both offensive and stupid.JWisemann said:
Can't handle the truth?oxfordsimon said:Can anyone please remind me how to put certain posters on ignore?
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They come from quite similar places, they are were both supporters of the Soviet Union. Somewhat different career paths, though!TheWhiteRabbit said:
They come from different places I agree, but their positions end up remarkably similarglw said:
Despite everything he has said I don't think Corbyn is a fan of Putin like Trump, Corbyn's views go way back, and his gullibility is driven by his long standing anti-Western views and hatred of the Tories. I'm sure Corbyn thinks he has been talking tough about Putin even as he has given some of the Russian viewpoints an airing.Slackbladder said:Trump and Corbyn, both usefull idiots or bought stooges? You decide
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Lot of canals running through Brum.TheValiant said:
Except for the job lot of speedboats, for the Birmingham based winners.Pulpstar said:
What a great program Bullseye was. No expense spared on the prizes back in the day.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. HYUFD, I hope he isn't saying to Hawking "Have a look at what you could've won...":
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Hi Tyson - I am not desperate for you to look lovingly at TM, just to accept she is playing this well and trouncing Corbyntyson said:SouthamObserver said:
That’s about the 17th time you’ve called that this year!! :-)Big_G_NorthWales said:I am reluctant to suggest this but it does seem like this is TM's Falkland's moment
Today’s events have far more significance for Labour than for Mrs May. The measures announced are not going to cause much of a problem for Putin and do nothing to discomfit the oligarchs that surround him. The UK is in a weak position, unfortunately.
Poor Big G is desperate for us all to look lovingly at our dear leader through his coloured glasses...
Granted she is playing the politics of all this quite well, but seriously that is all she is doing. We need to go much further of course, but May's natural caution will stop it. There is no way we should be participating in the World Cup in a country sponsoring terrorism, murder led by criminals and thieves.
But at the end of the day, her campaigning skills are utterly atrocious..Russia or no Russia.. and based purely on that she will not lead the Tories into another election...0 -
It's really getting very good. The Russians have clearly been programming their bots very well. I'd almost think this was a real person typing this.JWisemann said:I'd suggest that you are wrong Mike, yet again, and that Corbyn's measured and grown-up response will go down better with a fair slice of the country than impotent and childish willy-waving in some sub-pound-shop Thatcher-in-1982 fashion.
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Pat McFadden, sacked by Corbz for criticising his response to the Paris bombings, unsurprisingly not in favour of the dear leader's approach...0
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Corbyn put the blame on last years terrible bombings on our foreign policy, much to the disgust of the commentariat and our bleating pbers....he did that during a GE election campaign too...and look where that got him?AlastairMeeks said:I'm not sure that kicking out a few flunkeys or refusing to send a few flunkeys to Britain is really going to affect the price of herrings.
As for Jeremy Corbyn, why is anyone surprised at his response?
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She is not trouncing Corbyn, he is trouncing himself to the embarrassment of the majority of his party's MPs.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Hi Tyson - I am not desperate for you to look lovingly at TM, just to accept she is playing this well and trouncing Corbyntyson said:SouthamObserver said:
That’s about the 17th time you’ve called that this year!! :-)Big_G_NorthWales said:I am reluctant to suggest this but it does seem like this is TM's Falkland's moment
Today’s events have far more significance for Labour than for Mrs May. The measures announced are not going to cause much of a problem for Putin and do nothing to discomfit the oligarchs that surround him. The UK is in a weak position, unfortunately.
Poor Big G is desperate for us all to look lovingly at our dear leader through his coloured glasses...
Granted she is playing the politics of all this quite well, but seriously that is all she is doing. We need to go much further of course, but May's natural caution will stop it. There is no way we should be participating in the World Cup in a country sponsoring terrorism, murder led by criminals and thieves.
But at the end of the day, her campaigning skills are utterly atrocious..Russia or no Russia.. and based purely on that she will not lead the Tories into another election...0 -
The opposition benches??tyson said:
Corbyn put the blame on last years terrible bombings on our foreign policy, much to the disgust of the commentariat and our bleating pbers....he did that during a GE election campaign too...and look where that got him?AlastairMeeks said:I'm not sure that kicking out a few flunkeys or refusing to send a few flunkeys to Britain is really going to affect the price of herrings.
As for Jeremy Corbyn, why is anyone surprised at his response?0 -
Quite. He has form on matters like this.AlastairMeeks said:
As for Jeremy Corbyn, why is anyone surprised at his response?
I recall he was unsupportive of a former Prime Minister who assured the nation that it was right to declare war on Iraq because it was HIGHLY LIKELY that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. Not at all surprised he is raising questions about evidence.
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Until you actually read what they say. Then you just have to bust out laughing.....TheValiant said:
It's really getting very good. The Russian's have clearly been programming their bots very well. I'd almost think this was a real person typing this.JWisemann said:I'd suggest that you are wrong Mike, yet again, and that Corbyn's measured and grown-up response will go down better with a fair slice of the country than impotent and childish willy-waving in some sub-pound-shop Thatcher-in-1982 fashion.
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