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What I find interesting is that some Brexiteers seem to want one https://t.co/rxkbyCiWvx
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Can't see it myself0
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I could see a referendum on the deal though.0
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Banks and Farage never really wanted Leave to win anyway. They wanted a narrow Remain win that would lead to a UKIP surge. A second EU referendum with a small Remain winning margin would be ideal for them0
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There wont be a second referendum.
These things will not be decided by the likes of Farage or Banks.
In fact, there wont be one BECAUSE they say there will be one.
I think its cruel to get remoaners hopes up only to dash them.0 -
What an inspiration Tessa Jowell is - as TM has responded to her appeal for more funding for brain cancer0
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Leave 52%
Remain 48%
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The following optionsSeanT said:
Yes. The question is: what will be the question? Take the Deal or No Deal? Or Take the Deal or Remain?TheScreamingEagles said:I could see a referendum on the deal though.
1) Reject the deal and Remain
2) Reject the deal and leave with no deal
3) Accept the deal
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May won't want one as it will split her party.stevef said:
There wont be a second referendum.
These things will not be decided by the likes of Farage or Banks.
In fact, there wont be one BECAUSE they say there will be one.
I think its cruel to get remoaners hopes up only to dash them.
Corbyn won't want one as it will split him from his party - he was nearly toppled by the first one
Arlene Foster won't want one as she backs a hardish Brexit
As you say it doesn't matter what Banks or Farage or Adonis or Campbell thinks - the people likely to have the power to require one don't want one.
And that assumes anyone could even agree on the question. Deal or no deal but either way we leave can surely be the only option on the ballot paper - we have already voted to leave and it will be too late to stop it.
We are leaving - it's just how that is to be decided.0 -
Adult Videos?TheScreamingEagles said:
The following optionsSeanT said:
Yes. The question is: what will be the question? Take the Deal or No Deal? Or Take the Deal or Remain?TheScreamingEagles said:I could see a referendum on the deal though.
1) Reject the deal and Remain
2) Reject the deal and leave with no deal
3) Accept the deal
Conducted under AV
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TSE have you ever googled "Japanese AV idol"?
Suffice to say, it's NSFW
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I am shocked.
May U-turns on EU migrant rights.
Any EU citizens who move to the UK during the transition will be allowed to stay permanently.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/9668017824951623680 -
GoodTheScreamingEagles said:I am shocked.
May U-turns on EU migrant rights.
Any EU citizens who move to the UK during the transition will be allowed to stay permanently.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/9668017824951623680 -
What is the deal if we remain?TheScreamingEagles said:
The following optionsSeanT said:
Yes. The question is: what will be the question? Take the Deal or No Deal? Or Take the Deal or Remain?TheScreamingEagles said:I could see a referendum on the deal though.
1) Reject the deal and Remain
2) Reject the deal and leave with no deal
3) Accept the deal
Conducted under AV
The EU today are already talking about removing our rebate if transition goes on too long - what is to say they won't demand concessions if we decide to withdraw article 50 and remain. The other 27 think the rebate is unfair - and if we went cap in hand grovelling to stay in humiliating fashion why wouldn't they extract their pound of flesh. The status quo may well not be an option - so we might need a third vote if 1 won.0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
I am shocked.
May U-turns on EU migrant rights.
Any EU citizens who move to the UK during the transition will be allowed to stay permanently.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/966801782495162368
That picture of the owl needs a caption competition.
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For someone as cautious as Mrs May is, she also seems to have a habit of just blurting things out before she's thought through whether she can actually deliver them.TheScreamingEagles said:I am shocked.
May U-turns on EU migrant rights.
Any EU citizens who move to the UK during the transition will be allowed to stay permanently.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/9668017824951623680 -
Wonderful photographMarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:I am shocked.
May U-turns on EU migrant rights.
Any EU citizens who move to the UK during the transition will be allowed to stay permanently.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/966801782495162368
That picture of the owl needs a caption competition.0 -
"Theresa May at 10pm on 8th June 2017"MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:I am shocked.
May U-turns on EU migrant rights.
Any EU citizens who move to the UK during the transition will be allowed to stay permanently.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/966801782495162368
That picture of the owl needs a caption competition.0 -
"I am not a number - I am a FREE OWL!"MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:I am shocked.
May U-turns on EU migrant rights.
Any EU citizens who move to the UK during the transition will be allowed to stay permanently.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/966801782495162368
That picture of the owl needs a caption competition.-1 -
Why can't she deliver that promiseDanny565 said:
For someone as cautious as Mrs May is, she also seems to have a habit of just blurting things out before she's thought through whether she can actually deliver them.TheScreamingEagles said:I am shocked.
May U-turns on EU migrant rights.
Any EU citizens who move to the UK during the transition will be allowed to stay permanently.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/9668017824951623680 -
Hopefully the leaked documents are from a more reliable force than the Czech Spy.TheScreamingEagles said:
Could Sun Politics check if EU is claiming to have organised Live Aid?-1 -
Lets wait and see rather than taking rumours as fact. I await TM speech in the next few daysTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Another Referendum would just crystallize what many - Remain voters amongst them - really, really fucking hate about the EU.0
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Labour delivers!MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:I am shocked.
May U-turns on EU migrant rights.
Any EU citizens who move to the UK during the transition will be allowed to stay permanently.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/966801782495162368
That picture of the owl needs a caption competition.0 -
I just finished reading 'Fall Out' and all I want to do is curl up in the foetal position and wait for our political masters to destroy the country. May or Corbyn, I don't care, 'tis all one to me now.
Superb book.0 -
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Not as simple as that.FrancisUrquhart said:
So out of all the 1000s of genuine cases, the authorities manage to pick a case that isn't....AndyJS said:"Judge halts FGM trial after photos show child to be unharmed"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/judge-halts-fgm-trial-after-photos-show-child-to-be-unharmed-zl3b5z508
Last year only 137 FGM cases were recorded in under 18's (table 2.2), and 159 done in the UK (table 2.7) apparantly many either unproven (as in this case) or labial piercings.
87% of recorded FGM cases are reported by midwives, with an average age age of presentation of 31 years, with the FGM having occurred decades previously in East Africa.
137 is too many but we should base our discussions on facts.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
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ROFLMAO... Please keep up the comedy. .Big_G_NorthWales said:
Lets wait and see rather than taking rumours as fact. I await TM speech in the next few daysTheScreamingEagles said:
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I can't.TheScreamingEagles said:I could see a referendum on the deal though.
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Please God no 2nd referendum. If we get one it will however not be the EU's fault but ours. We voted Leave without any agreed plan or destination in mind. The endless debate on here ought to have been had before we voted.0
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John Prescott OMG
Just retire now your day has been and gone.0 -
Quite right. It is not the EU calling for another vote, it is British politicians.dixiedean said:Please God no 2nd referendum. If we get one it will however not be the EU's fault but ours. We voted Leave without any agreed plan or destination in mind. The endless debate on here ought to have been had before we voted.
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Maidenhead LD gain
Where were the National Bocialists0 -
Maidenhead or Minehead?bigjohnowls said:Maidenhead LD gain
Where were the National Bocialists0 -
Divergence doesn't make sense as a policy. You are either compliant with the other party's regulation for goods and services, or you are not. If compliant you can demand your goods and services are treated the same way as the other party's. If you are not compliant you can apply whatever regulation you want but you won't get national treatment on your goods and services.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Old Leake and Wrangle has to be a serious contender for Ward name of the Year! Con hold btw.0
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+ 100Big_G_NorthWales said:What an inspiration Tessa Jowell is - as TM has responded to her appeal for more funding for brain cancer
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England had 5,700 recorded cases of FGM in 2015-16, figures showFoxy said:FPT:
Not as simple as that.FrancisUrquhart said:
So out of all the 1000s of genuine cases, the authorities manage to pick a case that isn't....AndyJS said:"Judge halts FGM trial after photos show child to be unharmed"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/judge-halts-fgm-trial-after-photos-show-child-to-be-unharmed-zl3b5z508
Last year only 137 FGM cases were recorded in under 18's (table 2.2), and 159 done in the UK (table 2.7) apparantly many either unproven (as in this case) or labial piercings.
87% of recorded FGM cases are reported by midwives, with an average age age of presentation of 31 years, with the FGM having occurred decades previously in East Africa.
137 is too many but we should base our discussions on facts.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/21/england-fgm-cases-recorded-2015-2016
Yes there are issues with this higher number, but I don't think anybody really believe it is just 150 a year.
I am not going to debate this further, as we know your opinion on this over many many posts arguing with SeanT.0 -
Divergence makes lots of sense when a huge proportion of your businesses produce for domestic consumption.FF43 said:
Divergence doesn't make sense as a policy. You are either compliant with the other party's regulation for goods and services, or you are not. If compliant you can demand your goods and services are treated the same way as the other party's. If you are not compliant you can apply whatever regulation you want but you won't get national treatment on your goods and services.TheScreamingEagles said:
Divergence makes lots of sense when you're one of the biggest economies in the world and need to be able to use governmental and regulatory levers to preserve and progress this
And, of course, the ability to diverge makes lots of sense when the party you're discussing with are petrified of you diverging.
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Not often I say this, but everyone on newsnight tonight is speaking well, relatively respectfully, having engaged minds.
Prezza has a tremendous sense of humour. He has lost two referenda on the EU, poor chap!0 -
Why have QT got a "journalist" from a Corbyn loony left website which was recently struck off by Companies House for non-compliance?0
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Just look at the official figures rather than a second hand report. The figures that I quoted were last years, and only 137 cases recorded in the UK in under 18's.FrancisUrquhart said:
England had 5,700 recorded cases of FGM in 2015-16, figures showFoxy said:FPT:
Not as simple as that.FrancisUrquhart said:
So out of all the 1000s of genuine cases, the authorities manage to pick a case that isn't....AndyJS said:"Judge halts FGM trial after photos show child to be unharmed"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/judge-halts-fgm-trial-after-photos-show-child-to-be-unharmed-zl3b5z508
Last year only 137 FGM cases were recorded in under 18's (table 2.2), and 159 done in the UK (table 2.7) apparantly many either unproven (as in this case) or labial piercings.
87% of recorded FGM cases are reported by midwives, with an average age age of presentation of 31 years, with the FGM having occurred decades previously in East Africa.
137 is too many but we should base our discussions on facts.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/21/england-fgm-cases-recorded-2015-2016
Yes there are issues with this higher number, but I don't think anybody really believe it is just 150 a year.
I am not going to debate this further, as we know your opinion on this over many many posts arguing with SeanT.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
If you have a source substantiating a figure of thousands of children per year then please cite it. As I pointed out the vast majority of recorded cases are recorded decades later by midwives at an average age of 31.0 -
Your figures are only those people presenting themselves to the NHS.Foxy said:
Just look at the official figures rather than a second hand report. The figures that I quoted were last years, and only 137 cases recorded in the UK in under 18's.FrancisUrquhart said:
England had 5,700 recorded cases of FGM in 2015-16, figures showFoxy said:FPT:
Not as simple as that.FrancisUrquhart said:
So out of all the 1000s of genuine cases, the authorities manage to pick a case that isn't....AndyJS said:"Judge halts FGM trial after photos show child to be unharmed"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/judge-halts-fgm-trial-after-photos-show-child-to-be-unharmed-zl3b5z508
Last year only 137 FGM cases were recorded in under 18's (table 2.2), and 159 done in the UK (table 2.7) apparantly many either unproven (as in this case) or labial piercings.
87% of recorded FGM cases are reported by midwives, with an average age age of presentation of 31 years, with the FGM having occurred decades previously in East Africa.
137 is too many but we should base our discussions on facts.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/21/england-fgm-cases-recorded-2015-2016
Yes there are issues with this higher number, but I don't think anybody really believe it is just 150 a year.
I am not going to debate this further, as we know your opinion on this over many many posts arguing with SeanT.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
If you have a source substantiating a figure of thousands of children per year then please cite it. As I pointed out the vast majority of recorded cases are recorded decades later by midwives at an average age of 31.
We know you don't think it is a big issue, many others disagree with you.0 -
Why not?FrancisUrquhart said:Why have QT got a "journalist" from a Corbyn loony left website which was recently struck off by Companies House for non-compliance?
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Spin me right round...right round baby...
Cabinet Brexiters are happy following today’s Chequers summit, with one senior Brexiter telling Guido: “Divergence has won”.
https://order-order.com/2018/02/22/cabinet-brexiters-happy-chequers-agreement-divergence/0 -
There is mandatory recording of FGM cases on this register for all cases recorded by all agencies. Are you suggesting that some official bodies are breaking the law by failing to report? If so, what is your evidence?FrancisUrquhart said:
Your figures are only those people presenting themselves to the NHS.Foxy said:
Just look at the official figures rather than a second hand report. The figures that I quoted were last years, and only 137 cases recorded in the UK in under 18's.FrancisUrquhart said:
England had 5,700 recorded cases of FGM in 2015-16, figures showFoxy said:FPT:
Not as simple as that.FrancisUrquhart said:
So out of all the 1000s of genuine cases, the authorities manage to pick a case that isn't....AndyJS said:"Judge halts FGM trial after photos show child to be unharmed"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/judge-halts-fgm-trial-after-photos-show-child-to-be-unharmed-zl3b5z508
Last year only 137 FGM cases were recorded in under 18's (table 2.2), and 159 done in the UK (table 2.7) apparantly many either unproven (as in this case) or labial piercings.
87% of recorded FGM cases are reported by midwives, with an average age age of presentation of 31 years, with the FGM having occurred decades previously in East Africa.
137 is too many but we should base our discussions on facts.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/21/england-fgm-cases-recorded-2015-2016
Yes there are issues with this higher number, but I don't think anybody really believe it is just 150 a year.
I am not going to debate this further, as we know your opinion on this over many many posts arguing with SeanT.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
If you have a source substantiating a figure of thousands of children per year then please cite it. As I pointed out the vast majority of recorded cases are recorded decades later by midwives at an average age of 31.
We know you don't think it is a big issue, many others disagree with you.
I know that there is an "everybody know there are thousands" meme amongst right wing populists, but I do not regard that as evidence.
137 is too many, but perhaps accounts for why trials are rare.0 -
Well for starters their "journalists" were involved in spreading untruths about the government cover ups about Grenfell tower.bigjohnowls said:
Why not?FrancisUrquhart said:Why have QT got a "journalist" from a Corbyn loony left website which was recently struck off by Companies House for non-compliance?
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-daily-telegraph/20170617/281500751241946
I thought the BBC were against giving those spreading Fake News a platform.0 -
By right wing populists, you are including the Guardian? I don't think it is a right / left thing. The likes of the Guardian and BBC have been big on topic.Foxy said:
There is mandatory recording of FGM cases on this register for all cases recorded by all agencies. Are you suggesting that some official bodies are breaking the law by failing to report? If so, what is your evidence?FrancisUrquhart said:
Your figures are only those people presenting themselves to the NHS.Foxy said:
Just look at the official figures rather than a second hand report. The figures that I quoted were last years, and only 137 cases recorded in the UK in under 18's.FrancisUrquhart said:
England had 5,700 recorded cases of FGM in 2015-16, figures showFoxy said:FPT:
Not as simple as that.FrancisUrquhart said:
So out of all the 1000s of genuine cases, the authorities manage to pick a case that isn't....AndyJS said:"Judge halts FGM trial after photos show child to be unharmed"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/judge-halts-fgm-trial-after-photos-show-child-to-be-unharmed-zl3b5z508
Last year only 137 FGM cases were recorded in under 18's (table 2.2), and 159 done in the UK (table 2.7) apparantly many either unproven (as in this case) or labial piercings.
87% of recorded FGM cases are reported by midwives, with an average age age of presentation of 31 years, with the FGM having occurred decades previously in East Africa.
137 is too many but we should base our discussions on facts.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/21/england-fgm-cases-recorded-2015-2016
Yes there are issues with this higher number, but I don't think anybody really believe it is just 150 a year.
I am not going to debate this further, as we know your opinion on this over many many posts arguing with SeanT.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
If you have a source substantiating a figure of thousands of children per year then please cite it. As I pointed out the vast majority of recorded cases are recorded decades later by midwives at an average age of 31.
We know you don't think it is a big issue, many others disagree with you.
I know that there is an "everybody know there are thousands" meme amongst right wing populists, but I do not regard that as evidence.
137 is too many, but perhaps accounts for why trials are rare.0 -
They'll be banning Sun journalists next.FrancisUrquhart said:
Well for starters their "journalists" were involved in spreading untruths about the government cover ups about Grenfell tower.bigjohnowls said:
Why not?FrancisUrquhart said:Why have QT got a "journalist" from a Corbyn loony left website which was recently struck off by Companies House for non-compliance?
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-daily-telegraph/20170617/281500751241946
I thought the BBC were against giving those spreading Fake News a platform.0 -
Are The Guardian and the Royal College of Nursing "right wing populists"? They're the sourced credited with the thousands quote: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/21/england-fgm-cases-recorded-2015-2016Foxy said:
There is mandatory recording of FGM cases on this register for all cases recorded by all agencies. Are you suggesting that some official bodies are breaking the law by failing to report? If so, what is your evidence?FrancisUrquhart said:
Your figures are only those people presenting themselves to the NHS.Foxy said:
Just look at the official figures rather than a second hand report. The figures that I quoted were last years, and only 137 cases recorded in the UK in under 18's.FrancisUrquhart said:
England had 5,700 recorded cases of FGM in 2015-16, figures showFoxy said:FPT:
Not as simple as that.FrancisUrquhart said:
So out of all the 1000s of genuine cases, the authorities manage to pick a case that isn't....AndyJS said:"Judge halts FGM trial after photos show child to be unharmed"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/judge-halts-fgm-trial-after-photos-show-child-to-be-unharmed-zl3b5z508
Last year only 137 FGM cases were recorded in under 18's (table 2.2), and 159 done in the UK (table 2.7) apparantly many either unproven (as in this case) or labial piercings.
87% of recorded FGM cases are reported by midwives, with an average age age of presentation of 31 years, with the FGM having occurred decades previously in East Africa.
137 is too many but we should base our discussions on facts.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/21/england-fgm-cases-recorded-2015-2016
Yes there are issues with this higher number, but I don't think anybody really believe it is just 150 a year.
I am not going to debate this further, as we know your opinion on this over many many posts arguing with SeanT.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
If you have a source substantiating a figure of thousands of children per year then please cite it. As I pointed out the vast majority of recorded cases are recorded decades later by midwives at an average age of 31.
We know you don't think it is a big issue, many others disagree with you.
I know that there is an "everybody know there are thousands" meme amongst right wing populists, but I do not regard that as evidence.
137 is too many, but perhaps accounts for why trials are rare.0 -
Do they have the Sun on?...I never watch QT these days, as it seems most week they appear to have some z-list celeb on who knows f##k all about f##k all.dixiedean said:
They'll be banning Sun journalists next.FrancisUrquhart said:
Well for starters their "journalists" were involved in spreading untruths about the government cover ups about Grenfell tower.bigjohnowls said:
Why not?FrancisUrquhart said:Why have QT got a "journalist" from a Corbyn loony left website which was recently struck off by Companies House for non-compliance?
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-daily-telegraph/20170617/281500751241946
I thought the BBC were against giving those spreading Fake News a platform.0 -
Lol! Funny.MarqueeMark said:
Labour delivers!MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:I am shocked.
May U-turns on EU migrant rights.
Any EU citizens who move to the UK during the transition will be allowed to stay permanently.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/966801782495162368
That picture of the owl needs a caption competition.0 -
Their headline figure is correct if you include all cases presenting decades later as adults. Do you think these 31 year olds should have their elderly parents prosecuted? Even though the FGM occurred decades before in another country?FrancisUrquhart said:
By right wing populists, you are including the Guardian?Foxy said:
There is mandatory recording of FGM cases on this register for all cases recorded by all agencies. Are you suggesting that some official bodies are breaking the law by failing to report? If so, what is your evidence?FrancisUrquhart said:
Your figures are only those people presenting themselves to the NHS.Foxy said:
Just look at the official figures rather than a second hand report. The figures that I quoted were last years, and only 137 cases recorded in the UK in under 18's.FrancisUrquhart said:
England had 5,700 recorded cases of FGM in 2015-16, figures showFoxy said:FPT:
Not as simple as that.FrancisUrquhart said:
So out of all the 1000s of genuine cases, the authorities manage to pick a case that isn't....AndyJS said:"Judge halts FGM trial after photos show child to be unharmed"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/judge-halts-fgm-trial-after-photos-show-child-to-be-unharmed-zl3b5z508
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/21/england-fgm-cases-recorded-2015-2016
Yes there are issues with this higher number, but I don't think anybody really believe it is just 150 a year.
I am not going to debate this further, as we know your opinion on this over many many posts arguing with SeanT.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
If you have a source substantiating a figure of thousands of children per year then please cite it. As I pointed out the vast majority of recorded cases are recorded decades later by midwives at an average age of 31.
We know you don't think it is a big issue, many others disagree with you.
I know that there is an "everybody know there are thousands" meme amongst right wing populists, but I do not regard that as evidence.
137 is too many, but perhaps accounts for why trials are rare.
If we look at new suspected FGM cases in children, that could be regarded as possible child abuse cases, there were 137 last year. That is why prosecutions are rare, not some bizarre cover up.
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Don't put words in my mouth, I never suggested some bizarre cover up. Difficult problem to identify and incompetence.Foxy said:
Their headline figure is correct if you include all cases presenting decades later as adults. Do you think these 31 year olds should have their elderly parents prosecuted? Even though the FGM occurred decades before in another country?FrancisUrquhart said:
By right wing populists, you are including the Guardian?Foxy said:
There is mandatory recording of FGM cases on this register for all cases recorded by all agencies. Are you suggesting that some official bodies are breaking the law by failing to report? If so, what is your evidence?FrancisUrquhart said:
Your figures are only those people presenting themselves to the NHS.Foxy said:
Just look at the official figures rather than a second hand report. The figures that I quoted were last years, and only 137 cases recorded in the UK in under 18's.FrancisUrquhart said:
England had 5,700 recorded cases of FGM in 2015-16, figures showFoxy said:FPT:
Not as simple as that.FrancisUrquhart said:
So out of all the 1000s of genuine cases, the authorities manage to pick a case that isn't....AndyJS said:"Judge halts FGM trial after photos show child to be unharmed"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/judge-halts-fgm-trial-after-photos-show-child-to-be-unharmed-zl3b5z508
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/21/england-fgm-cases-recorded-2015-2016
Yes there are issues with this higher number, but I don't think anybody really believe it is just 150 a year.
I am not going to debate this further, as we know your opinion on this over many many posts arguing with SeanT.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
If you have a source substantiating a figure of thousands of children per year then please cite it. As I pointed out the vast majority of recorded cases are recorded decades later by midwives at an average age of 31.
We know you don't think it is a big issue, many others disagree with you.
I know that there is an "everybody know there are thousands" meme amongst right wing populists, but I do not regard that as evidence.
137 is too many, but perhaps accounts for why trials are rare.
If we look at new suspected FGM cases in children, that could be regarded as possible child abuse cases, there were 137 last year. That is why prosecutions are rare, not some bizarre cover up.
End of discussion on this. As I don't want to get put on the naughty step as others who have been previously.0 -
Three options referendum is far too complicated for the great unwashed to compute.TheScreamingEagles said:
The following optionsSeanT said:
Yes. The question is: what will be the question? Take the Deal or No Deal? Or Take the Deal or Remain?TheScreamingEagles said:I could see a referendum on the deal though.
1) Reject the deal and Remain
2) Reject the deal and leave with no deal
3) Accept the deal
Conducted under AV
It is better that we muddle on through to cliff edge Brexit. If it works and we agree fantastic unilateral trade deals - great! If it is the fiasco we Remainers predict, a more enlightened future government goes cap in hand to the EU and asks if we can rejoin, albeit on worse terms than we left, maybe a decade after we leave.
If we are ever to row back on June 2016 the Brexit experiment has to be seen to have well and truly failed. If by some remote chance it works great!
As a Brexit related anecdotal aside I have spent the week in Lisburn, general consensus is Arlene has all but killed the Good Friday Agreement to the joy of Unionists. Nationalists tended to agree but without the enthusiasm. The blame for them was placed firmly at the feet of Mrs May and this is twofold, her inability to stand up to the DUP, and her inability to control the JRM/Boris faction. The Nationalists I spoke to detest Arlene but suggest she has run rings around Theresa. General understanding from both camps is Mrs May has wildly underestimated the ramifications of getting Northern Ireland wrong. Republicans and people who just want to get on with life consider Mrs May to be very politically naive.0 -
Thousands a year PRESENTING AS ADULTS!Philip_Thompson said:
Are The Guardian and the Royal College of Nursing "right wing populists"? They're the sourced credited with the thousands quote: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/21/england-fgm-cases-recorded-2015-2016Foxy said:
There is mandatory recording of FGM cases on this register for all cases recorded by all agencies. Are you suggesting that some official bodies are breaking the law by failing to report? If so, what is your evidence?FrancisUrquhart said:
Your figures are only those people presenting themselves to the NHS.Foxy said:
Just look at theFrancisUrquhart said:
England had 5,700 recorded cases of FGM in 2015-16, figures showFoxy said:FPT:
Not as simple as that.FrancisUrquhart said:
So out of all the 1000s of genuine cases, the authorities manage to pick a case that isn't....AndyJS said:"Judge halts FGM trial after photos show child to be unharmed"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/judge-halts-fgm-trial-after-photos-show-child-to-be-unharmed-zl3b5z508
Last year only 137 FGM cases were recorded in under 18's (table 2.2), and 159 done in the UK (table 2.7) apparantly many either unproven (as in this case) or labial piercings.
87% of recorded FGM cases are reported by midwives, with an average age age of presentation of 31 years, with the FGM having occurred decades previously in East Africa.
137 is too many but we should base our discussions on facts.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/21/england-fgm-cases-recorded-2015-2016
Yes there are issues with this higher number, but I don't think anybody really believe it is just 150 a year.
I am not going to debate this further, as we know your opinion on this over many many posts arguing with SeanT.
https://digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB30015
If you have a source substantiating a figure of thousands of children per year then please cite it. As I pointed out the vast majority of recorded cases are recorded decades later by midwives at an average age of 31.
We know you don't think it is a big issue, many others disagree with you.
I know that there is an "everybody know there are thousands" meme amongst right wing populists, but I do not regard that as evidence.
137 is too many, but perhaps accounts for why trials are rare.
If you have a reliable source that thousands of UK CHILDREN are having FGM, then I would be interested to read it.
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Me neither. Who watches it? I lost interest in QT years ago, and I opine on a niche political gambling site...right or left, leave or remain, QT is a waste of space would appear to be a rare point of agreement.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they have the Sun on?...I never watch QT these days, as it seems most week they appear to have some z-list celeb on who knows f##k all about f##k all.dixiedean said:
They'll be banning Sun journalists next.FrancisUrquhart said:
Well for starters their "journalists" were involved in spreading untruths about the government cover ups about Grenfell tower.bigjohnowls said:
Why not?FrancisUrquhart said:Why have QT got a "journalist" from a Corbyn loony left website which was recently struck off by Companies House for non-compliance?
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-daily-telegraph/20170617/281500751241946
I thought the BBC were against giving those spreading Fake News a platform.0 -
Even Gerald Ratner didn't manage to do this much damage to a company in less than 140 characters...
Reality TV star Kylie Jenner wiped $1.3bn (£1bn) off the stock market value of Snapchat after tweeting that she no longer used its messaging app.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43163544
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George Galloway praises the Rees-Mogg position on Brexit on 'This Week' and urges his friend Corbyn to follow suit and leave the fading EU to 'embrace the world' (or more particularly Russia and Iran)0
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Stopped watching it years agodixiedean said:
Me neither. Who watches it? I lost interest in QT years ago, and I opine on a niche political gambling site...right or left, leave or remain, QT is a waste of space would appear to be a rare point of agreement.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do they have the Sun on?...I never watch QT these days, as it seems most week they appear to have some z-list celeb on who knows f##k all about f##k all.dixiedean said:
They'll be banning Sun journalists next.FrancisUrquhart said:
Well for starters their "journalists" were involved in spreading untruths about the government cover ups about Grenfell tower.bigjohnowls said:
Why not?FrancisUrquhart said:Why have QT got a "journalist" from a Corbyn loony left website which was recently struck off by Companies House for non-compliance?
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-daily-telegraph/20170617/281500751241946
I thought the BBC were against giving those spreading Fake News a platform.
May I wish everyone a pleasant nights rest as I bid good night to all0 -
Amazon wiped 34 billion off Walmart yesterdayFrancisUrquhart said:Even Gerald Ratner didn't manage to do this much damage to a company in less than 140 characters...
Reality TV star Kylie Jenner wiped $1.3bn (£1bn) off the stock market value of Snapchat after tweeting that she no longer used its messaging app.
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-431635440 -
Unfortunately, that is Minehead, and I think the Conservatives held the seat (Graham Chapman).bigjohnowls said:Maidenhead LD gain
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He also said Brexit will lead to a socialist Pax Britannica as Corbyn leads the world...HYUFD said:George Galloway praises the Rees-Mogg position on Brexit and urges his friend Corbyn to follow suit and leave the fading EU to 'embrace the world' (or more particularly Russia and Iran)
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Perhaps followed by Bernie Sanders in his viewwilliamglenn said:
He also said Brexit will lead to a socialist Pax Britannica as Corbyn leads the world...HYUFD said:George Galloway praises the Rees-Mogg position on Brexit and urges his friend Corbyn to follow suit and leave the fading EU to 'embrace the world' (or more particularly Russia and Iran)
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A medic explains why allowing the sale of AR15s to civilians is not the smartest of ideas:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/what-i-saw-treating-the-victims-from-parkland-should-change-the-debate-on-guns/553937/0 -
The Lib Whos? Are they a small regional party?HYUFD said:0 -
They are now! Although, so small, nobody can say for sure which region......FrancisUrquhart said:
The Lib Whos? Are they a small regional party?HYUFD said:0 -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/02/22/just-like-thatcher-jeremy-corbyn-offers-change-tories-seem-have/
This chap’s slow off the mark. I wrote this ages ago -
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2018/01/31/jeremy-corbyn-the-new-maggie-thatcher/
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Per the Guardian:
"The amendment to the trade bill is expected to win the backing of other Conservatives who inflicted defeated on the government last year on the EU withdrawal bill, including Dominic Grieve, Stephen Hammond, Jeremy Lefroy, Antoinette Sandbach and Jonathan Djanogly — all of whom had signed up to a similar amendment calling for the government to remain in “the” customs union."
I think minimum 9 Con MPs required to defeat the Govt as Field and Hoey will back Govt for certain.
If Govt loses, what happens?
It's only an amendment - so would they brush it of and say they'll reverse it later?
Or would it mean collapse of Govt?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/22/jeremy-corbyn-could-back-remaining-in-eu-customs-union0 -
Where do the DUP stand on this?MikeL said:Per the Guardian:
"The amendment to the trade bill is expected to win the backing of other Conservatives who inflicted defeated on the government last year on the EU withdrawal bill, including Dominic Grieve, Stephen Hammond, Jeremy Lefroy, Antoinette Sandbach and Jonathan Djanogly — all of whom had signed up to a similar amendment calling for the government to remain in “the” customs union."
I think minimum 9 Con MPs required to defeat the Govt as Field and Hoey will back Govt for certain.
If Govt loses, what happens?
It's only an amendment - so would they brush it of and say they'll reverse it later?
Or would it mean collapse of Govt?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/22/jeremy-corbyn-could-back-remaining-in-eu-customs-union
Presumably they would be okay with a customs union provided the rest of the UK does as well?
If true - this article does explode the idea that there is no difference between a Corbyn and a May Brexit.0 -
JRM asked David Davies what was the point of this transition period and the response was so we can get a headstart on trade deals. I can’t see how that’s enough for leavers and certainly not the Leave voting public.TheScreamingEagles said:I am shocked.
May U-turns on EU migrant rights.
Any EU citizens who move to the UK during the transition will be allowed to stay permanently.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/9668017824951623680 -
And what would you regard as "enough for the Leave voting public" ?rkrkrk said:
JRM asked David Davies what was the point of this transition period and the response was so we can get a headstart on trade deals. I can’t see how that’s enough for leavers and certainly not the Leave voting public.TheScreamingEagles said:I am shocked.
May U-turns on EU migrant rights.
Any EU citizens who move to the UK during the transition will be allowed to stay permanently.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/966801782495162368
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My guess would be the leave voting public would see the end of FOM as a sufficient step.Nigelb said:
And what would you regard as "enough for the Leave voting public" ?rkrkrk said:
JRM asked David Davies what was the point of this transition period and the response was so we can get a headstart on trade deals. I can’t see how that’s enough for leavers and certainly not the Leave voting public.TheScreamingEagles said:I am shocked.
May U-turns on EU migrant rights.
Any EU citizens who move to the UK during the transition will be allowed to stay permanently.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/966801782495162368
They can swallow having to accept EU rules with no say for 2 years, they can even live with continued membership payments for 2 years...
If the reason for the delay is just trade deals - I don't think:
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FPT - can someone please explain to me what a Home Assistant actually does?
Does it help with dusting, hoovering, tidying up or washing up? Or prepping vegetables?
As far as I can tell it sits there on a table listening in to your conversations, ocassionally googles something or flips to a Netflix channel for you.
I can really do that myself.0 -
Based on a sample of 1 family member - it's used as a radio and a 'what is the weather going to be like today?' machine.Casino_Royale said:FPT - can someone please explain to me what a Home Assistant actually does?
Does it help with dusting, hoovering, tidying up or washing up? Or prepping vegetables?
As far as I can tell it sits there on a table listening in to your conversations, ocassionally googles something or flips to a Netflix channel for you.
I can really do that myself.
But much preferred to having to use a computer and google.0 -
Good one.Danny565 said:
"Theresa May at 10pm on 8th June 2017"MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:I am shocked.
May U-turns on EU migrant rights.
Any EU citizens who move to the UK during the transition will be allowed to stay permanently.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/966801782495162368
That picture of the owl needs a caption competition.0 -
On topic, Farage and Banks are both narcissists who just want a bit of attention.
Next.0 -
Those adults were children once. Plus the article mentions how it only comes to light during pregnancy (where its visible for obvious reasons) - how many "UK CHILDREN" are pregnant?Foxy said:
Thousands a year PRESENTING AS ADULTS!Philip_Thompson said:
Are The Guardian and the Royal College of Nursing "right wing populists"? They're the sourced credited with the thousands quote: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/21/england-fgm-cases-recorded-2015-2016Foxy said:There is mandatory recording of FGM cases on this register for all cases recorded by all agencies. Are you suggesting that some official bodies are breaking the law by failing to report? If so, what is your evidence?
I know that there is an "everybody know there are thousands" meme amongst right wing populists, but I do not regard that as evidence.
137 is too many, but perhaps accounts for why trials are rare.
If you have a reliable source that thousands of UK CHILDREN are having FGM, then I would be interested to read it.
Adults are worth recording so social workers can protect the next generation.0 -
I'd rather have my family quietly looking up such things on their phones rather than barking at a 'pod' on the table, and disturbing everyone else.rkrkrk said:
Based on a sample of 1 family member - it's used as a radio and a 'what is the weather going to be like today?' machine.Casino_Royale said:FPT - can someone please explain to me what a Home Assistant actually does?
Does it help with dusting, hoovering, tidying up or washing up? Or prepping vegetables?
As far as I can tell it sits there on a table listening in to your conversations, ocassionally googles something or flips to a Netflix channel for you.
I can really do that myself.
But much preferred to having to use a computer and google.
Colour me unconvinced.0 -
As I said yesterday, Corbyn going with Brexit for PMQs this week was the most significant political development we’ve had. Something is shifting in Labour’s approach.rkrkrk said:
Where do the DUP stand on this?MikeL said:Per the Guardian:
"The amendment to the trade bill is expected to win the backing of other Conservatives who inflicted defeated on the government last year on the EU withdrawal bill, including Dominic Grieve, Stephen Hammond, Jeremy Lefroy, Antoinette Sandbach and Jonathan Djanogly — all of whom had signed up to a similar amendment calling for the government to remain in “the” customs union."
I think minimum 9 Con MPs required to defeat the Govt as Field and Hoey will back Govt for certain.
If Govt loses, what happens?
It's only an amendment - so would they brush it of and say they'll reverse it later?
Or would it mean collapse of Govt?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/22/jeremy-corbyn-could-back-remaining-in-eu-customs-union
Presumably they would be okay with a customs union provided the rest of the UK does as well?
If true - this article does explode the idea that there is no difference between a Corbyn and a May Brexit.
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It works great as a reminder service.Casino_Royale said:FPT - can someone please explain to me what a Home Assistant actually does?
Does it help with dusting, hoovering, tidying up or washing up? Or prepping vegetables?
As far as I can tell it sits there on a table listening in to your conversations, ocassionally googles something or flips to a Netflix channel for you.
I can really do that myself.
It’s a bit like hiring a violinist for romantic dinner date in a restaurant.
Fun at the start but the novelty wears off after a few minutes.
It you have an iPhone and an Apple Watch, Siri does most of what a home pod does already.
Home Assistants are very annoying when you have young children.0 -
Snap! (as a change from +1)Casino_Royale said:
I'd rather have my family quietly looking up such things on their phones rather than barking at a 'pod' on the table, and disturbing everyone else.rkrkrk said:
Based on a sample of 1 family member - it's used as a radio and a 'what is the weather going to be like today?' machine.Casino_Royale said:FPT - can someone please explain to me what a Home Assistant actually does?
Does it help with dusting, hoovering, tidying up or washing up? Or prepping vegetables?
As far as I can tell it sits there on a table listening in to your conversations, ocassionally googles something or flips to a Netflix channel for you.
I can really do that myself.
But much preferred to having to use a computer and google.
Colour me unconvinced.0 -
The UK’s starting position seems to be that it wants the right to diverge in some circumstances at some point in time. The EU27 will decide whether to allow this. But as with citizens’ rights for those coming to the UK during the transition, the likelihood is that the government will be backing down at some stage. It does seem as if slowly but surely the loons are being sidelined.Mortimer said:
Divergence makes lots of sense when a huge proportion of your businesses produce for domestic consumption.FF43 said:
Divergence doesn't make sense as a policy. You are either compliant with the other party's regulation for goods and services, or you are not. If compliant you can demand your goods and services are treated the same way as the other party's. If you are not compliant you can apply whatever regulation you want but you won't get national treatment on your goods and services.TheScreamingEagles said:
Divergence makes lots of sense when you're one of the biggest economies in the world and need to be able to use governmental and regulatory levers to preserve and progress this
And, of course, the ability to diverge makes lots of sense when the party you're discussing with are petrified of you diverging.
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You mean realism is prevailing?SouthamObserver said:
The UK’s starting position seems to be that it wants the right to diverge in some circumstances at some point in time. The EU27 will decide whether to allow this. But as with citizens’ rights for those coming to the UK during the transition, the likelihood is that the government will be backing down at some stage. It does seem as if slowly but surely the loons are being sidelined.Mortimer said:
Divergence makes lots of sense when a huge proportion of your businesses produce for domestic consumption.FF43 said:
Divergence doesn't make sense as a policy. You are either compliant with the other party's regulation for goods and services, or you are not. If compliant you can demand your goods and services are treated the same way as the other party's. If you are not compliant you can apply whatever regulation you want but you won't get national treatment on your goods and services.TheScreamingEagles said:
Divergence makes lots of sense when you're one of the biggest economies in the world and need to be able to use governmental and regulatory levers to preserve and progress this
And, of course, the ability to diverge makes lots of sense when the party you're discussing with are petrified of you diverging.0 -
I'm in no hurry to install Google Surveillance or Amazon Spy in my home.0
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There was an article a few months ago about someone who put Siri and Alexa in a room together.Casino_Royale said:FPT - can someone please explain to me what a Home Assistant actually does?
Does it help with dusting, hoovering, tidying up or washing up? Or prepping vegetables?
As far as I can tell it sits there on a table listening in to your conversations, ocassionally googles something or flips to a Netflix channel for you.
I can really do that myself.
They started talking to each other and ignoring him...0 -
If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear.AlastairMeeks said:I'm in no hurry to install Google Surveillance or Amazon Spy in my home.
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Luddite.AlastairMeeks said:I'm in no hurry to install Google Surveillance or Amazon Spy in my home.
They already hold that info on you anyway.0 -
The mean age at presentation last year was 31. The usual age of FGM is under 10 years old. That is why prosecutions are so rare, which is where this discussion started.Philip_Thompson said:
Those adults were children once. Plus the article mentions how it only comes to light during pregnancy (where its visible for obvious reasons) - how many "UK CHILDREN" are pregnant?Foxy said:
Thousands a year PRESENTING AS ADULTS!Philip_Thompson said:
Are The Guardian and the Royal College of Nursing "right wing populists"? They're the sourced credited with the thousands quote: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/21/england-fgm-cases-recorded-2015-2016Foxy said:There is mandatory recording of FGM cases on this register for all cases recorded by all agencies. Are you suggesting that some official bodies are breaking the law by failing to report? If so, what is your evidence?
I know that there is an "everybody know there are thousands" meme amongst right wing populists, but I do not regard that as evidence.
137 is too many, but perhaps accounts for why trials are rare.
If you have a reliable source that thousands of UK CHILDREN are having FGM, then I would be interested to read it.
Adults are worth recording so social workers can protect the next generation.
The simple fact is that there were only 137 cases of suspected FGM in children in the most recent annual data, despite active mandatory multi agency reporting. Certainly there are likely to be unrecorded cases, but the numbers are pure speculation.
Posters here often imply that prosecution is so rare because of collusion or "political correctness". In reality it is because of presentation decades later. The appropriate intervention at the point of presentation in a midwifery unit is educational and via social workers to protect the next generation.0 -
That’s what I’m hoping. The problem is, though, that every time there seems to be an outbreak of realism, the PM’s fear of the loons and terror of negative coverage in the right wing press leads her to backtrack. That said, with the clock ticking there is reducing scope for putting decisions off.OldKingCole said:
You mean realism is prevailing?SouthamObserver said:
The UK’s starting position seems to be that it wants the right to diverge in some circumstances at some point in time. The EU27 will decide whether to allow this. But as with citizens’ rights for those coming to the UK during the transition, the likelihood is that the government will be backing down at some stage. It does seem as if slowly but surely the loons are being sidelined.Mortimer said:
Divergence makes lots of sense when a huge proportion of your businesses produce for domestic consumption.FF43 said:
Divergence doesn't make sense as a policy. You are either compliant with the other party's regulation for goods and services, or you are not. If compliant you can demand your goods and services are treated the same way as the other party's. If you are not compliant you can apply whatever regulation you want but you won't get national treatment on your goods and services.TheScreamingEagles said:
Divergence makes lots of sense when you're one of the biggest economies in the world and need to be able to use governmental and regulatory levers to preserve and progress this
And, of course, the ability to diverge makes lots of sense when the party you're discussing with are petrified of you diverging.
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Anything that is activated by one word can be made to listen in to every sound.TheScreamingEagles said:
Luddite.AlastairMeeks said:I'm in no hurry to install Google Surveillance or Amazon Spy in my home.
They already hold that info on you anyway.0 -
It doesn't need to be activated by you. That's why you're right to be leary.AlastairMeeks said:
Anything that is activated by one word can be made to listen in to every sound.TheScreamingEagles said:
Luddite.AlastairMeeks said:I'm in no hurry to install Google Surveillance or Amazon Spy in my home.
They already hold that info on you anyway.0 -
I keep thinking that Northern Ireland is probably the biggest impediment to BREXIT....and yet it seems to remain a parochial matter for the over-interested.Mexicanpete said:
Three options referendum is far too complicated for the great unwashed to compute.TheScreamingEagles said:
The following optionsSeanT said:
Yes. The question is: what will be the question? Take the Deal or No Deal? Or Take the Deal or Remain?TheScreamingEagles said:I could see a referendum on the deal though.
1) Reject the deal and Remain
2) Reject the deal and leave with no deal
3) Accept the deal
Conducted under AV
It is better that we muddle on through to cliff edge Brexit. If it works and we agree fantastic unilateral trade deals - great! If it is the fiasco we Remainers predict, a more enlightened future government goes cap in hand to the EU and asks if we can rejoin, albeit on worse terms than we left, maybe a decade after we leave.
If we are ever to row back on June 2016 the Brexit experiment has to be seen to have well and truly failed. If by some remote chance it works great!
As a Brexit related anecdotal aside I have spent the week in Lisburn, general consensus is Arlene has all but killed the Good Friday Agreement to the joy of Unionists. Nationalists tended to agree but without the enthusiasm. The blame for them was placed firmly at the feet of Mrs May and this is twofold, her inability to stand up to the DUP, and her inability to control the JRM/Boris faction. The Nationalists I spoke to detest Arlene but suggest she has run rings around Theresa. General understanding from both camps is Mrs May has wildly underestimated the ramifications of getting Northern Ireland wrong. Republicans and people who just want to get on with life consider Mrs May to be very politically naive.0 -
You can ask Alexa to put on some soothing cat purring noises.Casino_Royale said:FPT - can someone please explain to me what a Home Assistant actually does?
Does it help with dusting, hoovering, tidying up or washing up? Or prepping vegetables?
As far as I can tell it sits there on a table listening in to your conversations, ocassionally googles something or flips to a Netflix channel for you.
I can really do that myself.0 -
They are very good for frail elderly people. I was visiting a ninety-something blind, and immobile friend a few weeks back. He loves it to change his channel, play music and look up share prices and other news.TheScreamingEagles said:
It works great as a reminder service.Casino_Royale said:FPT - can someone please explain to me what a Home Assistant actually does?
Does it help with dusting, hoovering, tidying up or washing up? Or prepping vegetables?
As far as I can tell it sits there on a table listening in to your conversations, ocassionally googles something or flips to a Netflix channel for you.
I can really do that myself.
It’s a bit like hiring a violinist for romantic dinner date in a restaurant.
Fun at the start but the novelty wears off after a few minutes.
It you have an iPhone and an Apple Watch, Siri does most of what a home pod does already.
Home Assistants are very annoying when you have young children.0 -
Thanks - doesn't sound like I'm missing out.TheScreamingEagles said:
It works great as a reminder service.Casino_Royale said:FPT - can someone please explain to me what a Home Assistant actually does?
Does it help with dusting, hoovering, tidying up or washing up? Or prepping vegetables?
As far as I can tell it sits there on a table listening in to your conversations, ocassionally googles something or flips to a Netflix channel for you.
I can really do that myself.
It’s a bit like hiring a violinist for romantic dinner date in a restaurant.
Fun at the start but the novelty wears off after a few minutes.
It you have an iPhone and an Apple Watch, Siri does most of what a home pod does already.
Home Assistants are very annoying when you have young children.0
